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A
Okay,
we
are
live
so
welcome
to
this
week's
enable
town
hall
we're
just
getting
started
here,
still
probably
with
one
or
two
more
but
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
into
our
action
items
and
such
just
to
get
going
in
case
anyone's
watching
ben.
Are
you
able
to
help
the
notes
today?
Yeah.
A
Okay,
all
right,
so,
let's
see
action
items
ben
follow
up
on
the
finish
event
was
that
I
don't
remember
what
that
was.
Was
that,
just
to
clarify
the
the
time.
B
Yeah
and
it
was
to
see
if
alexander
and
mazzy
were
able
to
join
and
it
looks
like
that
all
went
through.
I'm
I'm
not
100
positive.
It
was
yesterday
something
like
four
in
the
morning
my
time
but
as
far
as
I
know
it
all
went
through
terry
had
a
presentation.
I
think
alexander
wasn't
sure
if
he'd
be
able
to
present,
but
hopefully
they'll
join
today
and
give
us
an
update.
A
Yeah
sounds
good,
so
I'm
going
to
cross
that
one
off
for
you,
john
and
ben
reach,
out
to
the
three.
B
It
might
be
worth
adding
an
alexander
or
masby
update
on
that,
because
I'd
love
to
hear
about
it.
A
Okay,
great
john
and
ben
reach,
out
to
the
three
chapters
in
northern
california
about
those
printers
that
were
available.
B
B
No
response
yet
evan
did
say
that
he
could
potentially
help
coordinate
but
he's
in
pennsylvania
right
now.
So
my
sense
is
that
we'll
wait
another
couple
days
and
then
just
widen
the
scope.
If
there's
something
like
eight
or
twelve
chapters
in
la
we
could
reach
out
to
them
that's
six
hours
away
from
auburn,
california,
but
all
right.
A
Okay,
next
one
is
for
me
to
set
up
a
spreadsheet,
to
just
kind
of
try
to
manage
and
detail
out
these
lists
of
champion
needs.
So
I
did
get
started
on
that.
I
need
a
little
bit
more
time
to
finish
it
up.
I
got
to
come
up
with
a
shorter
kind
of
title
for
each
one.
We've
got
our
description
and
as
far
as
kind
of
defining
the
scale
I
was
thinking
just
like
small,
medium,
large
or
ongoing.
Does
that
make
sense.
A
So
I'll
just
finish
filling
this
in
and
then
send
it
your
way
ben
and
you
can
kind
of
help
me
to
add
more
detail.
You
know
requirements.
Skill
sets
things
like
that
that
maybe
we're
missing,
but
that's
a
good
start
and
speaking
of
which
bob
did
help
me
put
together
that
one
detailed
description
for
the
needs
analysis.
So
we
have
a
draft
of
that
that
I
did
go
through,
but
I
wanted
to
make
some
edits,
so
he
just
gave
me
edit
access
right.
A
So
I
need
a
little
more
time
on
that
too.
But
let's
see
the
next
one
is
the
go
going
live
with
the
new
design
on
the
device,
catalog
pages,
which
is
still
waiting
on
me.
Unfortunately,
and
as
I
said
last
time,
I
just
being
realistic-
don't
know
when
I'm
going
to
get
to
that
because
I
it
does
take
a
sort
of
a
chunk
of
time
being
set
aside,
not
huge,
but
one
that
I
haven't
been
able
to
do
so.
A
I
had
suggested
that
maybe
that
would
be
a
candidate
for
something
that
we
could
put
a
sort
of
a
task
bounty
on
and
see
if
somebody
might
take
it
on
then,
but
I
think
we
should
we
should
think
of
it,
not
just
in
terms
of
going
live
with
the
new
design,
but
finding
somebody
that
can
take
the
lead
on
maintaining
that
device
catalog
going
forward,
because
already
this
week,
one
of
the
posts
that
we'll
look
at
that
was
you
know
that
got
attention
this
week
was
from
peter
binkley,
saying:
hey,
there's
this
great
design,
it's
not
in
our
catalog.
A
A
Bob
who's
not
able
to
join
us
today
was
working
on.
Well,
I,
this
is
the
one
I
mentioned,
so
he
did
write
up
the
sort
of
the
job
description
or
the
the
detailed
write-up
of
of
what
we're
looking
for
there
or,
if
I
have
it
up
here.
No,
that's
not
it.
I
think
I
have
it
one
of
my
other
browser
windows,
but
he
wrote
up
about
a
one-page
description
of
what
we're
looking
for
the
nature
of
the
work.
The
kinds
of
skill
sets
we're
looking
for
said,
a
really
nice
job.
A
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
few
tweaks
on
a
couple
of
the
bits
of
wording
and
that'll
be
ready
to
go
so
that
will
go
up
as
a
lumio
discussion
thread
both
to
sort
of
vet.
The
idea
of
sort
of
the
task,
bounding
approach,
as
well
as
to
hopefully
get
some
attention
from
people
that
might
want
to
help
with
this.
So
that's
a
work
in
progress.
A
Bob
help
desk
flashforge
partnership.
I
know
there
has
been
additional
communication
back
and
forth
on
that.
I'm
not.
A
Interesting
you're
back,
I
am
back
okay.
I
don't
know
what
that
was
my
internet
connection,
I
oh
yep.
It
says
my
internet
connection
is
unstable.
That
hasn't
happened
for
a
while.
All
right
any
do
you
guys
know
anything
about
the
flash
forge
communications.
C
We've
been
going
back
and
forth
with
kyle,
but
we
have
not
actually
met
up
with
them.
Yet,
okay,
so
we'll.
A
Just
leave
that
one
there
for
a
while
john
and
ben
work
on
following
up
with
schools
about
internships.
Any
news.
B
We
did
have
a
meeting
about
that
this
week.
There
was
some
issues
with
the
handshake
account.
There
was
a
couple
details
that
were
needed
to
be
updated
in
the
profile,
so
that
was
updated
and
we
followed
up
with
marymount
university
small
steps.
A
Good
then
update
event
summary
for
march.
B
Yes,
so
if
you
look
at
the
forum
and
go
to
the
wiki
you'll
see
in
the
side
that
there
is
now,
if
you
scroll
down
community
events
which
has
them
in
there.
B
Yeah,
so
I
usually
make
a
google
doc
to
plan
it
out
and
I
figured
it'd
be
worthwhile
to
share
okay.
A
Nice,
well
thanks
for
doing
that,
we'll
we'll
come
back
to
that
in
a
minute
when
we
go
through
events,
let's
see
and
then
we've
got
something
that'll
take
some
time
here,
alexander
working
on
capturing
some
frequently
asked
questions
and
then
working
on
an
updated
chapter
spotlight
for
florida,
okay,
metrics
nothing
really
jumped
out
at
me
today.
Our
enable
fund
is
still
right
about
the
same,
although
it's
crept
up
a
few
dollars,
nothing
really
caught
my
attention.
Otherwise,
so
on
we
go
posts
of
note
for
the
week.
A
I
alluded
to
this
one
before
peter
binkley
shared
a
post
about
the
roadrunner
bike
device
which
he
pointed
out,
is
not
in
our
catalog
and
has
proved
to
be
successful.
This
is
the
kind
of
thing
I
would
love
to
have
somebody
to
help
with
of
just
you
know.
When
this
kind
of
thing
comes
up,
you
know
either
we
could
try
to
encourage
peter
to
fill
out
our
form
to
submit
a
new
device
or
knowing
that
that
might
you
know
he
might
not
have
time
to
do
that.
A
Really,
it's
probably
more
a
matter
of
you
know
going
to
thingiverse
getting
the
details
ourselves.
Putting
that
page
together
and
maybe
running
it
by
him
for
review,
but
need
somebody
to
help
with
that.
So
this
is
a
very
interesting
looking
device,
so
we
should
get
that
in
our
catalog
john
pointed
out
a
recommended
website
that
continues
to
develop
bionx
for
everyone,
and
he
has
a
complete
guide
to
bionic
arms
and
ants
wow.
I
didn't
actually
get
to
look
at
this.
That's
pretty
cool.
C
A
B
Why
don't
I
reach
out
to
him
for
for
may,
we've
got
skip
and
john
are
hosting
the
pionics
april
session,
but
we
don't
have
anybody
scheduled
for
may
yet.
A
Yeah,
I
mean
those
look
amazing,
okay,
all
right
and
then
not
sure
how
to
pronounce
this
hack
on
these
working
on
a
new
hand,
design
they've
produced
a
questionnaire
for
patients
and
they're
asking
for
some
help.
Getting
that
filled
out
alexander
suggested
that
they
might
want
to
add
a
question
more
specifically
asking
about
the
kinds
of
things
people
want
to
be
able
to
do
with
their
device.
A
Along
with
some
other
suggestions,
you
also
call
the
users,
oh
call
them.
Users,
patience
implies
medical
industry
which
we're
not
quite
part
of
okay,
so
just
take
a
peek
at
that.
It's
basically
it's
the
kind
of
thing
actually
that
we
talked
about
a
while
ago
that
I
would
like
to
switch
over
to
insta.
Excuse
me:
we
don't
really
know
which
way
we're
going
with
the
whole
matching
platform.
Until
we
do
this
analysis
but
say
we
decide
to
stick
with
something
like
enable
web
central.
A
Instead
of
having
people
fill
out,
you
know
all
the
information
we're
asking
for
now.
I,
like
the
idea
of
you,
know
you
want
a
hand,
just
fill
out
a
form
like
this.
You
know
how
old
are
you
gender?
Are
you
currently
a
prosthetic
user?
Have
you
got
one
before?
What
did
you
like
or
dislike
about
it?
Would
you
rather
stand
out
or
blend
in
I
like
that?
A
One
asks
about
hobbies
and
everyday
tasks
that
you
struggle
with
most
so
you
know,
maybe
we
can
add
one
or
two
questions
there,
but
I
like
the
idea
of
just
giving
somebody
a
simple
form.
They
fill
it
out
and
then
we
kind
of
take
it
from
there.
We
set
up
the
case
for
them.
We
kind
of
facilitate
matching.
We,
you
know
kind
of
hand-hold
a
little
bit
completely
self-service.
We've
talked
about
that
before,
but
this
seemed
like
a
nice
example
of
of
the
kind
of
thing
I
was
thinking
about
to
get
things
started.
A
A
Correct,
that's
just
something
he
said
our
team
and
I
don't
know
who
that
team
is.
Our
team
is
currently
in
the
prototype
phase
of
prosthetic
hand
and
we
current
and
we
created
a
questionnaire
if
you
could
send
that
out
now
actually
now
reading
this
a
second
time,
I
don't
know
if
he's
saying
that
they're
in
the
prototype
phase
of
a
new
design,
they're
creating
or
like
the
prototype
phase
of
just
making
one
of
our
designs,
I'm
actually
not
sure
what
he's
referring
to
there
so
but
the
questionnaire
is,
is
the
thing.
A
Okay,
so
those
were
the
posts
that
we
wanted
to
call
out
this
week
as
far
as
events,
let's
just
go
ahead
and
take
a
look
at
that
summary,
which
tab
did
I
put
that
in
here.
B
Sure
so
today
we
have
the
new
member
meetup.
I
sent
some
invites
out
this
morning.
B
Evan
blackman
is
presenting
about
ways
that
new
members
can
participate
other
than
printing
devices
and
he's
been
involved
in
helping
to
set
up
some
accounting
structures
for
open
collective
he's,
been
involved,
working
with
the
nyap
devices
and
and
some
other
sort
of
background
stuff
with
the
wishbone
project.
So,
following
this
week
next
week,
we
have
we
scroll
down
just
a
little
bit
sorry
about
that.
No
problem,
okay
alexander,
will
be
sharing
his
new
print
and
place
design
of
the
phoenix
hand.
B
So
that's
march
25th,
so
the
friday
of
next
week,
the
last
two
sessions
for
this
weekend
and
definitely
check
out
last
week
or
actually
this
week.
On
monday,
we
had
a
really
great
chapter
leaders
meeting
with
the
folks
at
makers,
asylum
in
goa,
india,
just
a
really
incredibly
inspiring
team
of
people
doing
a
lot
of
educational
programming
very
interested
in
reaching
out
through
their
network.
B
They
have
sort
of
a
pandemic
initiative
that
they
started,
which
really
networks
different
maker
spaces
all
throughout
india,
and
they
were
interested
in
sort
of
plugging
into
our
community
and
seeing
how
that
network
that
they
have
within
india,
which
is
really
pretty
comprehensive,
could
work
its
way
into
the
enable
community.
So.
A
You
know,
speaking
of
which-
and
I
forgot
to
put
this
on
the
agenda,
but
eric
bubar,
one
of
our.
You
know
key
volunteers
reached
out
to
me
over
the
last
week
to
to
share
the
fact
that
there
are
people
making
3d
printed
tourniquets
and
it's
it's
basically
a
kit
where
the
the
main
portion
is
3d
printed.
But
then
you
it's
got
some
other
materials,
some
velcro
and
fasteners.
A
But
people
can
use
their
3d
printers
to
make
tourniquets
for
the
people
in
ukraine
and
he
was
reaching
out
to
see
what
the
chances
are
of
getting
together
a
kit
for
people
that
want
to
devote
their
3d
printers
to
helping
out
with
that.
So
it
comes
at
a
difficult
time
for
us,
but
alina
and
I
are
looking
into
seeing
how
quickly
we
might
be
able
to
pull
together
a
materials
kit,
whether
or
not
we're
able
to
do
that.
A
It
might
still
be
a
good
thing
for
our
enabled
community
for
those
interested
in
helping.
Certainly
in
fact
now
that
I
think
of
it
ben
I'm
going
to
forward
that
email
to
you,
because
it
does
have
the
details.
The
assembly
instructions
and
everything
people
can
certainly
do
it
on
their
own,
get
the
materials
locally,
and
that
sort
of
thing
if
they
want
to
help
out.
C
A
C
Send
that
here
jeremy,
I
did
see
some
pushback
from
someone
on
linkedin,
mentioning
3d,
printable,
tourniquets
and
saying
that's
not
the
right
thing
to
do
so
interesting.
We
should
be.
Do
you
remember
why
they
were.
C
I
I
I
didn't
frankly,
I
didn't
quite
make
the
connection
to
an
incipient
enable
activity,
but
I
will
dig
it
up
and
we
should.
A
Yeah
I
didn't
spend
much.
I
didn't
spend
much
time
with
it,
just
just
having
a
cursory
glance
at
the
page
and
the
assembly
instructions.
It
certainly
looked
like
a
fairly
well-built
and
robust
design
to
me.
Maybe
the
person
that
you're
talking
about
was
just
kind
of
thinking
in
general
about
a
like
completely
3d
printed
device.
Who
knows,
but
it's
it's
worth
looking
into
for
sure
you
know.
As
always,
I
think
we're
in
one
of
those
situations
where
it
might
be
something
that's
better
than
nothing.
You
know
so.
A
Worth
worth
looking
into
so
all
right,
we
covered
events.
Okay,
I
can
take
this
one
off
now.
The
finish
event
that
has
happened.
C
But
I
saw
a
note
yesterday
that
someone
who
organized
the
finish
event
was
very
inspired
by
enable
masby
and
alexander,
I
think,
were
participants.
A
A
Discussion
topics:
okay,
so
getting
things
done
so
we've
got
our
list
of
champion
needs
and
I've
just
started
like
so
before,
filling
those
into
a
spreadsheet
trying
to
sort
of
identify
the
scale
of
those
efforts.
I'm
going
to
pass
this
over
to
ben
to
start
to
fill
in
some
more
information.
Then
we
can
use
that
as
a
recruiting
tool.
A
A
So
we
talked
here
last
time
about
some
other
possible
things
we
could
use
to
motivate
interns.
As
far
as
rewards
we
talked
about
certificates,
either
our
existing
badges
or
maybe
like
a
printable
certificate.
Some
kind
of
you
know
educational
focus
for
our
our
positions
with
references,
so
they
can
use
it.
You
know
on
their
on
their
resume
that
kind
of
thing
recognition
page.
A
You
know
to
to
recognize
those
that
have
helped
out
and
taking
on
these
projects,
we
talked
about
a
stipend,
salary
or
bounty,
in
other
words,
money
pay.
What
you
will
model
so
we
talked
about
you
know
we
will
pay
up
to
a
certain
amount,
but
leave
it
to
people
to
decide
how
much
they
want
to
actually
request
and
open
source
ecosystem.
I
don't
remember
what
that
one
referred
to.
You
guys.
C
I
wouldn't
be
surprised
if
it
has
to
do
with,
for
example,
inviting
other
open
source
groups
to
create
something
for
us.
I've
been
in
touch
with
just
one
giant
lab.
They
have
a
whole
bunch
of
hackers
for
the
greater
good
and
psy
and
open
source
people.
If
we
had
a
well-defined
task,
you
might
be
able
to
say,
hey
hackers,
here's
something
you
might
find
interesting
and
fun.
B
A
This
one
got
put
on
the
list
because
I
mentioned
one
of
the
ways
that
other
like
volunteer,
open
source
kind
of
projects,
get
contributors
and
can
recognize
them
as
having
a
big
section
at
the
bottom
of
like
a
readme
in
a
big
repo.
That
has
a.
B
A
B
I'm
remembering
a
little
bit
about
the
conversation
that
we
had
the
last
time.
I
think
one
of
the
ideas
was
having
at
least
one
badge
or
a
series
of
badges
directly
connecting
to
some
of
these
other
open
source
platforms.
So
if
you
potentially,
you
know
completed,
let's
say
I
don't
know
a
related
project
within
another
open
source
group
that
that
could
be
a
badge
like
you
could
sort
of
have
that
crossover
using
our
badge
platform.
A
Well
so,
and
when
I
first
saw
this
when
I
saw
that
on
the
bullets
there
of
just
open
source
ecosystem-
and
maybe
this
wasn't
what
it
was,
but
what
came
to
mind
for
me
is
just
the
very
fact
that
everything
that
we
do
is
open
source,
I
think,
is
a
draw
for
some
people.
They
want
to
help
out.
They
know
that
whatever
that
work,
they
produce
it's
going
to
be
shared
openly
with
with
the
world
and
that's-
and
I
think
that
is
appealing
to
some-
and
maybe
that
was
part
of
that
discussion.
A
I
think
that
in
and
of
itself
can
be
used
to
attract
people
to
help
us.
B
I
was
going
to
mention
in
relation
to
this
larger
topic.
I
did
get
a
call
for
kevin
dartic
had
a
job
interview
at
brandeis
johnny
and
I
did
sort
of
some
feedback
for
him,
but
his
experience
with
the
enable
was
one
of
the
you
know
main
things
that
he
had
put
on
his
resume.
That
aligned
him
for
a
position.
B
I
don't
know
if
if
he
was
offered
the
position
or
not,
but
it
was
with
sort
of
federal
regulation,
work
and
research,
so
you
know
it
it's
nice
to
to
see
that
our
interns
are
making
their
way
and
and
that
the
work
that
they're
doing
with
us
is
super
relevant
to
their
career
path.
A
C
You
know
creating
a
they
passed
into.
C
A
Not
just
interns,
I
mean
people
like
kyle
and,
and
I
mean
eric
bubar
people
who
are
still
maybe
with
the
enable
but
have
gone
yeah.
That's
a
great
idea.
A
Yeah
I
like
that,
almost
like
an
alumni
somewhere
then.
B
I
said:
where
are
they
now
page?
I
put
that
under.
A
Oh
okay,
under
the
open
source
ecosystem,
okay,
all
right,
nice,
so
yeah,
we
talked
about
task
bounties
and
we
are
kind
of
experimenting
with
that.
I
think
that's
still
sort
of
a
to
be
seen
kind
of
a
thing
as
far
as
how
that's
working
and
where
we
go
with
that
possible
ways
of
rewarding
contributors.
Okay,
we
talked
about
that.
That's
just
kind
of
a
repeat
summary
down
there:
okay,
so
anything
else
I
mean.
A
A
B
Yeah
and-
and
we
did
hear
back
directly
from
the
organization
or
the
the
business
that
had
offered
the
tent
printers-
and
I
got
a
really
nice
email
back
from
them,
so
they
do
have.
I
think,
six
working
printers
and
four
that
need
a
little
bit
of
work,
but
will
be
available
soon
again
located
in
northern
california,
if
anybody's
watching
this
and
they're
in
the
region
and
want
to
connect
the
dots
on
picking
up
these
printers
for
a
local
chapter.
A
B
Okay,
so
you
know,
I
guess
that
that's
open
also
to
evan,
if
you
have
any
ideas
of
you
know
how
to
sort
of
network
this
stuff
yeah
right
now.
We
just
have
three
chapters
that
we've
reached
out
to
in
northern
california.
We
thought
about
expanding
the
scope
and
and
sending
some
emails
out
to
folks
in
la.
But
you
know
again,
it's
open
for
suggestions.
A
Okay
sounds
good
all
right,
so
that
brings
us
up
to
our
outreach
and
partnerships,
john
and
ben.
You
are
mentioning
the
event
or
the
the
chapter
leaders
meeting
and
that
included
maker's
asylum.
So
you
want
to
share
a
little
bit
more
with
us
about
what
came
out
of
that.
If
anything
and
next
steps
that
sort
of
thing.
B
Sure
I
can
share
the
link
to
the
video
in
the
chat,
john,
and
I
actually,
as
john
mentioned,
that
directly
after
that
meeting,
he
met
with
another
team
in
goa
about
the
climate
change
initiative.
So
there's
there's
a
lot
of
little
interconnections.
B
I
think
within
you
know
the
larger
region
and
within
india
that
john
and
the
team
at
makers
asylum
have
been
exploring.
I
think,
through
this
discussion.
C
I
can
say
that
we
met
ritesh,
who
is
their
hands-on
person
there
and
who
is
pushing
through
the
submission
for
chapter
membership
and
working
on
devices.
There's
an
offer.
They
have
lots
of
different
printers,
so
there's
an
opportunity
for
them
to,
for
example,
test
the
print
in
place
phoenix
on
a
variety
of
machines.
I
think
they
would
get
involved
with
that
and
I
heard
from
vivec
yesterday
that
he
met
with
vanbab
over
zoom
and
he's
eager
to
sort
of
help
develop
that
relationship.
C
So,
as
you
say,
jeremy
we're
we're
making
we're
getting
incremental
traction
on
this
and
it's
moving
forward
I'll
say
again.
There
is,
I
think,
an
opportunity
for
someone
to
spend
a
a
semester,
or
so
in
beautiful
seaside
goa
in
a
gorgeous
portuguese,
home
and
maker
space,
and
so
that
will
develop,
but
the
trick,
as
ever
is
going
to
be
to
find
the
person
who's
got
the
right
combination
of
expertise
and
wanderlust.
B
Something
to
add
to
that
as
well.
In
the
process
of
maker's
asylum,
completing
the
chapter
request,
they
they've
created
a
experimental
device
and
I
guess
currently
the
way
that
our
badging
system
works
is
that
we
have
recommended
devices
that
chapter
submissions
are
required
to
complete
as
part
of
their
the
process
of
becoming
a
chapter.
It
has
to
be
one
of
you
know
the
kinetic
hand
or
the
phoenix
these
guys
had
worked
on
an
experimental
device
and
done
a
really
pretty
good
job
with
it.
It
was
a
bionic
device.
B
I
believe
they
submitted
that
and
bob
wasn't
sure
if
that
was
eligible
for
chapter
status,
so
john
and
I
sort
of
went
back
and
forth
and
both
thought
that
you
know
it
shows
not
only
you
know,
printing
abilities
but
also
design
experience.
So
I
figured
I'd
open
it
up
to
jeremy
and
andrew
if
you
guys
thought
that
an
experimental
device
which
is
a
badge
would
be
enough
to
qualify
a
chapter
for
chapter
status,.
A
Sorry
about
that
guys,
I
I
definitely
think
so
myself
and
I
think
the
intent
to
this
is
you
know
not
about
whether
they
made
one
of
our
standard
or
recommended
designs.
It's
it's
more
about
having
had
the
experience
and
the
skill
of
doing
that,
and
probably
going
through
with
an
experimental
design.
If
anything
gives
you
even
more
experience
and
so
and
and
not
to
say,
not
only
that
not
every
chapter
is
focused
on
just
making
devices,
there's
lots
of
different
ways.
A
B
Yeah,
so
I'm
gonna
put
okay
great,
I'm
gonna
put
at
the
top
of
the
action
items.
Masby
update
the
badge
badging
process.
So
it's
because
it's
sort
of
as
an
automatic.
C
C
A
A
I
don't
know
if
you're
seeing
what
I'm
sharing
on
screen
john,
but
this
is
the
paid
for
the
chapter
badge,
and
so
I
think
what
we
should
do
is
modify
our
language
on
the
evidence,
requirements
to
give
ourselves
a
little
bit
more
flexibility.
Talk
about.
You
know,
having
done
having
made
some
kind
of
a
significant
contribution
to
the
community,
or
you
know
this
somehow
word
it
in
a
way
that
bob
has
that
judgment,
call
ability.
B
B
I
was
going
to
add
in
the
notes
for
masby
if
he
can
set
it
up.
So
if
someone
does
complete
the
experimental
device
that
counts
as
a
device
as
the
general
devices
that
are
yeah,
that
would
make
it
easier
right
so
john's
saying
maybe
don't
connect
those
dots,
I'm
I'm
thinking
to
me
it's
clearly
an
experimental
experimental
device
is
a
device,
and
then
that
would
just
sort
of
save
a
step.
C
And
makes
has
nothing
to
say
about
my
suitability
as
a
chapter
leader,
so
I
do
think
an
automatic
pass-through,
if
you
make
an
enabled
device,
is
a
reasonable
qualification.
B
Well,
I
hear
what
you're
saying
john,
I
guess
the
the
feedback
or
the
other
side
of
the
coin
would
be.
Bob
always
makes
a
pass-through
because
he's
the
one
that
approves
these
devices
so
he'll
have
a
sense.
All
of
our
devices
are
experimental
devices
on
some
level
and
some
of
the
devices
that
we
have
as
enabled
devices
are
more
so
than
others.
B
But
I
also
think
that
the
qualification
of
requiring
a
chapter
to
be
able
to
print
is
something
that
I
don't
know
I
thought
about
before.
B
I
think
it's,
I
think
it's
sort
of
one
way
of
having
a
team
of
people
work
together,
but
I
I
do
hope
that
in
the
future
we
can
have
teams
and
groups
that
that
don't
need
that
requirement
to
have
that
sort
of
group
status.
A
That's
why
I
suggested
that.
Maybe
we
just
look
at
rewording
that
third
requirement
under
evidence,
because
the
first
two
are
okay,
we
want
them
to
have
joined
the
hub.
We
want
them
to
have
introduced
themselves
that
third
one
says
that
they
have
to
have
made
a
specific
kind
of
design.
Maybe
we
just
changed
that
one
to
basically
say
you've
made
some
kind
of
contribution
to
the
enabled
community.
Tell
us
what
it
is.
You
know
something
generic.
I
don't
know
what
you're
thinking
of
taking.
C
Away,
what
about
demonstrated
ability
to
make
stable
standard
designs.
A
Just
something
more,
a
little
more
vague
that
gives
bob
a
little
more
flexibility
at
the
end
of
the
day.
It's
it's
really
like.
I
said
about
whether
they
really
are
a
part
of
the
enable
community
they're
not
looking
to
just
get
a
badge.
They
really
want
to
be
part
of
what
we're
doing
and
contribute.
Then,
yes,
they
should
qualify.
You
know.
B
So
what
do
you
guys
think
about
having
the
experimental
badge
count
as
a
device,
as
the
other
devices
do?
Is
that
something
that
we
want
to
have
as
we
connect
the
dots
on,
or
do
you
want
to
skip
that
for
now?
My
vote
is
connected.
A
I
have
to
say
I
tend
to
agree
with
john
on
that
one
then,
just
because
there
are
a
lot
of
different
kinds
of
experimental
designs
out
there
that
have
nothing
to
do
with
hands
or
arms
and
and
might
not
really
say
anything
about
a
person's
qualification
to
make
those
designs
that
are
most
of
what
we
do.
So
I'm
a
little
hesitant
to
connect
it
with
the
you
know
made
an
enable
design
badge.
A
I
have
to
do
that.
It
gets
done
through
through
the
badger
platform
and
then
it
flows
through
into
here.
C
Okay:
okay,
but
there's
some
simple
language:
you
can
take
out
the
parenthetical
and
we
can
just
advise
bob
that
we,
we
trust
his
judgment
and
we've
now
empowered
him
to
use
it.
B
C
B
Okay,
so
we
should,
we
should
say
that
or
demonstrate
ability
to
make
a
standard,
enabled
device
or
ability
to
create
a
device,
which
is
this
general
device
badge
that
we
have
a
divisive.
A
A
That's
good,
okay,
anything
else
on
outreach
and
partnerships
right
now,
any
other
developments
outside
of
the
makers,
asylum
discussion
recently.
A
Okay,
I
don't
think
we
have
any
kind
of
funding
proposals
on
the
table
right
now,
at
least
not
that
I'm
aware
of
anyone
else
have
anything
that
we
need
to
talk
about
or
vote
on
today.
A
Okay,
I
do
hope
that
we
can
get
into
starting
to
plan
something
for
our
10-year
anniversary
soon,
but
I
think
we're
kind
of
in
a
waiting
mode
right
now,
because
we
were
talking
about
having
interns
help
with
this.
So
I
don't
want
to
put
this
off
too
long,
but
I
also
don't
want
to
go
into
it
prematurely
if
an
intern
is
going
to
be
responsible
for
this.
So
just
a
reminder,
I
guess
that
we
don't
want
to
let
that
wait
too
long.
B
And
for
the
10
year
it
seems
like
there's
a
spectrum
of
you
know
having
a
month-long,
dedicated
series
of
events
or
having
you
know,
maybe
something
that
would
be
more
subtle
and
less.
I
don't
know
oriented
around
that
anniversary.
What
what
do
you
guys
feel
like
is
the
middle
ground
there?
What
do
we
want
to
shoot
for.
A
Well,
I
I
like
the
idea
of
doing
an
actual
10-year
anniversary.
I
mean
we
had
talked
about
doing
it
as
a
sort
of
a
month-long
series
of
events,
as
opposed
to
a
single
event
which
I'm
in
favor
of
I'm
not
so
much
in
favor
of
just
kind
of
dissipating
it
into
something
more
kind
of
general
and
not
focusing
on
a
10-year
anniversary.
Only
because
I
think
the
power
of
celebrating
a
10-year
anniversary
is
the
ability
to
draw
sponsors
and
and
funding,
and
I
don't
think
we'd
be
able
to
do
that
as
effectively.
C
You
know,
I
wonder
whether
it's
a
new
thought,
whether
a
video
compilation,
you
know
a
video
that
we
put
together,
not
that
I
I
know
who's
going
to
do
it,
but
simply
having
a
10-year
anniversary.
Video
that
we
put
out
would
be
a
good
marker
of
the
event
it
could
include
all
of
our
greatest
hits
and
etc,
and.
A
I'll
tell
you
what
it's
something
I
would
be
open
to
working
on
if
I
can
work
on
it
with
ben,
because
I
think
ben
would
be
in
a
much
better
position
to
help
gather
video
footage
from
different
chapters.
Different
volunteers
get
interesting
footage
from
all
of
them.
I
could
maybe
help
to
piece
something
together.
Then,
how
does
that
sound
ben.
B
We
could
try
that
yeah
and
also
again
the
the
idea
of
having
an
intern.
You
know
john's
idea
is
a
different
set
of
skills,
but
that
could
be
something
that
we
could
also
try
to
rope
somebody
into,
and
that
would
be
a
really
clear
project.
I
mean
a
10-year
anniversary
video.
It
still
aligns
with
sort
of
fundraising
which
jeremy
was
talking
about,
and
it's
just
sort
of
getting
something
we
could
explore.
A
That
I
mean
the
only
reason
I
mentioned
that
I'd
be
open
to
helping
with
this
one
is
I'm
actually
in
the
process
right
now.
My
son
is
getting
ready
to
go
to
film
school
for
college
and
I
don't
want
him
we're
kind
of
prepping
and
going
through
a
lot
of
you
know,
filmmaking
and
cinematography
and
lighting,
and
this
that
and
the
other
thing-
and
this
would
be
a
good
project
for
him
to
get
some
practice
in.
So
I'd
I'd
be
open
to
using
that
as
an
opportunity
to
do
this.
A
A
Exactly
it
could
be
fun:
okay,
yeah!
That's
a
good
idea!
John!
I
like
that
and
then
you
know
whatever
we
do
around.
That
is
a
bonus.
You
know
if
people
want
to
do
a
a
get
together
or
presentations
or
whatever,
but
I
I
like
that
idea,
because
I
think
that
same
video,
if
we
do
it
right,
could
be
used
as
a
great
fundraising
tool
to
celebrate
what
we've
done
and
we
can
do.
C
And
maybe
it
would
go
viral.
A
You
know,
I
think,
that's
a
great
idea,
I
I
think
that's
worth
pursuing.
So,
let's,
let's
yeah,
let's,
let's
keep
working
on
getting
the
interns
in.
They
could
definitely
be
a
part
of
that.
You
know
I
mean
I
there's,
there's
certainly
ways
of
of
doing
it,
collaboratively
where
we
could
all
have
a
hand
in
it.
So
I
think
interns
are
still
a
welcome
part
of
that
process.
There's
a
lot
to
be
done.
A
You
go
nice,
okay
on
the
infrastructure
side,
I
think
there's
only
one
thing
I
was
aware
of
that.
I
wanted
to
share,
and
that
was
a
once
again
a
thanks
to
masby,
who
managed
to
fix
a
broken
component
in
the
hub.
That
is
the
the
calendar
and
the
way
recurring.
Events
were
working.
A
They
now
work
properly
with
an
upcoming
events
widget,
so
we
were
able
to
replace
the
one
that
we
were
manually
managing
and
we
now
have
an
automatic
list
of
upcoming
events,
including
I
notice
an
indication
of
when
one
gets
cancelled,
which
is
kind
of
interesting.
What
is
the
device
pilots
is,
that
is
that
accurate,
that
that
got
cancelled
ben.
A
B
It
also
shows
when
you're
attending
so
one
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
mention.
For
example,
if
you
scroll
down
yeah,
if
you
scroll
down
and
then
it
join
the.
B
Which
is
great
I'd
love
to
get
more
people
using
those
those
buttons?
I
think
in
the
early
days
of
the
hub,
people
were
more
active
with
you
know,
we'd
get
an
event
that
would
say
seven
or
eight
people
are
joining.
If
you
click
on
the
new
meeting,
the
new
member
meetup,
there
are
a
number
of
people
that
that
said
that
they're
attending.
A
B
But
it's
really
handy,
I
think,
for
you
know
just
just
getting
a
sense
of
who's
coming
and
how
to
prepare.
Sometimes
so
yeah.
B
C
Functionality
now
that
we've,
the
functionality
you
just
demonstrated,
is
not
at
all
obvious
unless
you've
clicked
the
attend
button.
So
I
suggest
you
take
a
clip
from
today's
meeting
and
turn
it
into
a
post.
Just
saying
you
may
not
be
aware,
but
this
is
now
a
useful
way
of
tracking
your
enable
attendance.
A
B
Great
also
in
the
comments
for
each
of
these
videos,
if
you
go
to
a
previous
video
or
previous
event,
you
go
to
the
calendar
and
go
to
let's
say
the
chapter
leader
meeting
just
the
general
calendar.
Oh,
I
see
what
you're
saying.
Okay,
I've
been
adding
as
a
comment
the
streaming
video.
B
So,
let's
see,
if
you
go
to
yeah
there,
we
go
so
just
scroll
down.
You
can
see
that
the
streaming
video,
but
that's
also
the
the
documentation.
So
there
is
an
archive,
but
the
event
itself
is,
I
think,
just
as
useful.
So.
A
C
B
A
Nice,
okay,
good
stuff,
yeah,
so
hopefully
that'll
make
things
a
little
more
useful,
and
I
think
I
think
these
events
are
really
becoming
a
core
part
of.
You
know
how
we
do
things
these
days
and
so
anything
we
can
do
to
make
it
easier
to
find
and
easier
to
see
when
they're
coming
up.
That's
that's
a
great
update.
I
think
it
should
be
useful.
A
B
Yeah,
actually,
that
was
a
a
one-year
was
it
reddit.
B
Yeah,
but
it
was
a
post
that
that
we
made
to
github
and
it
lasted.
You
know
a
couple
series
of
other
people
having
the
similar
challenges
and,
in
the
end
they
fixed
it
took
a
year.
A
B
B
All
right
so
we've
got
skip
and
john
for
the
bionics
meeting
and
and
hopefully
we
can
pull
in
other
folks
that
have
used
the
bionic
ripper
like
eric
bubar.
B
For
the
naval
education
meeting,
I
did
hear
back
from
jeff
powell
that
he's
available,
which
is
great,
so
that's
a
four
chapters
that
are
working
together
within
the
state,
so
it's
sort
of
a
micro
version
of
what's
happening
in
france
and
turkey
and
and
soon
to
be
india.
Yes,
sorry.
C
To
interrupt,
do
you
we
have
a,
we.
Have
you
have
a
list
of
chapters
at
universities
yep?
Do
you
send
them
an
alert
to,
for
example,
that
specific
event.
B
We
have
sent
emails
out
in
the
past
specifically
to
device
pilots
to
educational
chapters
to
chapters
it
shifted
to
the
larger
mailing
list
when
we
started
sort
of
structuring
it
on
benchmark,
but
we
could
potentially
do
both.
There
might
be
some
redundancy,
but.
B
Yeah,
no,
that
makes
sense
and
again
most
of
the
chapters
are
already
in
the
mailing
list.
So
doing
it
separately.
Just
means
that
there's
going
to
be
two
emails
for
some
folks,
but
we
can
do
that
and
see
if
it
bothers
anybody.
C
That's
right,
so
many
people
will
have
learned
how
to
turn
off
a
mass
mailing,
but
if
we
can
send
this
to
the,
if
we
can
target
this
to
particular
people,
it's
sort
of
like
a
customized
feed,
it's
it's
more
work.
It
might
be
something
to
try
to
automate
eventually,
but
it's
we've
done
fantastic.
B
So
in
terms
of
the
two
chapters
that
we
have
or
the
two
meetings
that
we
don't
have
presenters
scheduled,
yet
we've
got
the
chapter
leaders
meeting.
That's
that's
john's
kettle
of
fish,
so
I
don't
know
john.
If
you
have
a
sense
of
a
chapter
that
would
be
good
to
reach
out
to
we're
at
mid-march.
So
this
is
probably
a
good
time
for
that
next
month,.
C
Also,
here's
a
fresh
thought
about
the
chapter
leaders
meeting.
I
noticed
at
the
last
chapter
leaders
meeting
that
we
didn't
have
our
european
members,
probably
because
they
are
distracted
by
current
events.
But
given
the
discussion
we
had
about
tourniquets
and
the
ongoing
situation
in
ukraine,
it
might
be
sort
of
interesting
just
to
reach
out
to
european
chapter
leaders
and
just
say
these
are
extraordinary
times.
C
B
C
B
Okay
sounds
good
and
I
guess
I'll
look
for
european
chapters,
but
also
sort
of
just
larger
regional
chapters.
I
mean
there's,
obviously
some
chapters
in
in
the
network
that
are,
I
mean
turkey,
is
sort
of
on
the
cusp,
but
they
definitely
would
want
to
be
there.
So.
C
You
know,
as
I
think
about
it,
there's
going
to
be
a
need
for
3d
printed
prosthetics
and
there
is
a
need,
I'm
sure,
right
now
for
3d
printed
prosthetics
as
well
as
tourniquets
in
the
europe
in
ukraine.
C
B
Yeah
so
maybe
the
the
topic
could
be
preparing
for
or
discussing
you
know
the
current
situation
in
europe,
but
it
could
be
open,
obviously,
for
all
chapters
to
join.
C
B
Maybe
thinking
about
a
chapter
that
could
present
one
specific
european
chapter
that
could
start
things
off,
so
you
know
that
you
at
least
have
one
other
person.
B
Good
good
thought,
so
maybe
if
you
want
to
reach
out
to
masby
and
draft
an
email,
I'll
get
a
list
of
some
sort
of
key
chapters.
C
Right,
I
want
to
I
I'd
like
jeremy,
if
you
can
forward
me
a
little
bit
about
that
tourniquet
stuff.
That
will
alert
me
to
go.
Look
for
the
linkedin
thing
and
we'll
I'll
try
to
wrap
my
head
around
how
to
package
it
great
and
by
the
way,
I'm
I'm
enthusiastic
about
doing
this
ben
in
part,
because
it's
weeks.
A
C
B
C
C
It
occurs
to
me
that
that
is
not
necessarily
two
parallel
meetings.
I
don't
know,
do
you
have
any
thoughts
on
that?
C
B
We
can
share
the
meetings
with
with
each
other,
but
it
does
seem
like
the
focus
of
the
eco.
Restoration
is
going
to
be
probably
a
different
topic
than
you
know:
3d
printed
assistive
devices
and
that
kind
of
stuff.
C
They
don't
have
to
be
joined,
but
it
does
occur
to
me
that
I
mean
I
know
that
there
are
hackers
who
are
pardon
me
for
saying
so
open
source
volunteers
these
days,
who
are
active
virtual
combatants
in
this
thing
right
now,
and
so
there
are
a
lot
of
you
know
internet-based
non-organizations
that
are
playing
important
roles
here.
It's
it's
just
something
to
think
about
it's
just
so
I
will
think
about
it,
but
I'm
not
going
to
muck
up
our
particular
meeting
until
I
thought
about
it.
B
B
Well,
just
follow
up
if
anybody
has
any
ideas
for
a
new
member
meetup,
something
for
new
members
for
next
month.
You
can
just
send
me
an
email,
it
could
be
a
review,
it
could
be
a
presentation,
it
could
be
a
skill
set.
So.
A
Sounds
good
all
right
guys
thanks
very
much
I'll,
see
y'all
next
week
and
john.
If
you
would
stick
around
please.