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From YouTube: e-NABLE SPC Meeting - March 5, 2021
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This is a recording of the e-NABLE Strategic Planning Committee meeting for Friday, March 5, 2021.
The notes/agenda document can be found here: http://bit.ly/2Nc6i2g
A
Okay,
welcome
back
everyone.
What
do
we
have
here?
Let's
see
we're
just
coming
out
another
meeting,
so
forgive
me
I'm
once
again
not
as
prepared
as
I
should
be,
but
you
got
john
and
ben
taking
notes.
I
assume
is
that
cool
guys?
Okay,
I
don't
see
anyone
that
we
need
to
introduce
we're
all
good
friends
here,
ben's
still
working
on
creating
that
gallery
show
off
on
different
device
types
in
the
hub.
B
I
am,
and
I
do
appreciate
these
weekly
reminders
so
I'll
I'll
just
put
together
the
ones
that
I
have
and
we'll
be
able
to
look
at
that
next
week,
cool.
I
haven't
gotten
any
more
responses.
A
Okay,
so
I
will
I'm
gonna,
try
to
spend
some
time
tomorrow,
updating
the
the
stats
here,
but
let's
skip
over
that
for
now,
because
those
are
about
two
weeks
stale.
At
this
point
topics
for
today
I
did
not
get
into
lumio
this
morning.
Is
there
anything
I'm
not
aware
of
in
there
guys
do
you
know
if
there's
anything
other
than
the
oh?
I.
C
Been
responded
to
a
comment
from
eric
from.
What's
that
ben
responded
to
some
input
from
ken
wright.
B
There's
been
some
discussions
there,
so
I
think
it
has.
There
was
by
sending
it
out
to
all
the
lumio
registrants.
Oh.
A
B
That
we
got
some
some
responses,
so
there
have
been
some
discussions.
Ken
bice
had
some
points
and
I
think
adam
armfield
also
was
joining
the
conversation,
so
it
seems
like
it
is
looking
good
and
everybody
that
I
saw
is
supporting
it
and
they
just
basically
were
sharing
how
their
process
with
their
maker
space,
has
a
similar
fund.
D
D
I
think
there
are
two
parameters:
one
has
to
do
with
how
how
much
money
overall
can
we
can?
We
dispense
discretionarily
and
what
is
the
size
limit
to
discretionary
grants?
Is
it
under
500
under
one
hundred
dollars
etc?
Right,
I
think
those
are
two
numbers
that
need
to
be
set
before
people
can
vote
up
and
up
or
down.
A
I
agree.
Okay,
maybe
we
can
have
a
discussion
about
that
here
and
figure
out
what
to
put
in
those.
Maybe
this
is
a
good
time
to
do
that.
What
do
you?
What
do
you
think?
I
I
don't
I
don't.
I
certainly
don't
think
it's
100
I
mean
I
I
guess
I
mean
again.
I
think
we
should
allow
ourselves
some
flexibility
here.
I
think
somewhat
higher
number
like
off
the
top
of
my
head.
A
I
would
think
anything
up
to
a
thousand
dollars
is
gain
because
we
still
are
going
to
be
responsible
in
looking
at
it
and
say
even
if
it's
only
500,
we
might
say
yeah,
the
community
really
should
have
input
on
that
one.
Let's,
let's
put
that
out
there
for
a
vote
I
mean
we'll
still
have
that
discussion.
B
Now,
if
I
understand
some
of
the
comments
correctly,
it
looks
like
the
way
that
some
of
the
maker
spaces
are
working
is
that
they
have
a
discretionary
fund
that
allows
them
to
you
know.
Let's
say
under
I
don't
know
500
or
whatever
they
can
just
spend
it.
They
don't
have
to
ask
permission.
They
have
a
report.
B
On
but
what
jeremy
is
mentioning
is
that
there
still
would
be
sort
of
sharing
this
and
getting
approval
for
it,
which
seems
different
than
what
is
being
described
by
the
others.
In
the
comments
I'm.
A
B
Right
so
the
the
how
how
we
decide
how
the
discretionary
expenses
get
approved
would
be
worth
probably
specifying
too.
A
A
D
A
Okay,
so
I've
got
to
get
this
updated.
Add
those
details
in
there
set
it
up
for
a
vote
I
mean,
should
I
let
it
go
for
the
standard
one
week?
Do
you
think
this
is
a
maybe
better
as
a
two-week
voting
process?
What
makes
sense.
D
B
Care
of
that
there
might
be
some
compromise
in
terms
of
if
people
want
to
change
the
numbers
I
did
set
up
or
30,
so
it's
either
up
to
a
thousand
dollars
or
30,
meaning
that
if
there's
two
thousand
dollars
in
the
fund,
you
can't
take
a
thousand
dollars
correct,
yeah,
okay,.
D
No,
no,
those
are
two
different
things.
Individual
discretionary
reward
is
possible
if
it's
up
to
a
thousand
dollars
and
by
the
way,
if
we
don't
think
it
needs
community
discussion,
the
30
of
available
funds
has
to
do
not
with
the
size
of
an
individual
award,
but
with
the
total
amount
of
money
we
are
allowed.
A
A
B
A
D
A
D
A
D
Let's
say
it's
thirty
thousand
dollars.
Let's
say
it's.
A
C
You
caught
me:
okay,
no,
I
you
know
what
it
is.
It
is
a
problem
because
is
it?
Is
it
30
of
whatever
at
any
moment
in
time,
is
available
or
is
it
an
annual
budget,
and
I
would
think
that
we
almost
have
to
go
to
an
annual
budget
and
say:
okay,
look
every
every
fall.
We
will
set
a
budget
for
next
year
based
on
how
much
money
we
have,
how
much.
E
A
D
D
The
proposition
is
30
of
there
are
funds
that
have
been
considered
in
this
process
and
then
new
funds
can
be
used
to
update
the
that's
right.
A
Treat
it
as
an
update,
so
let's
just
say
that
at
the
at
the
beginning
of
the
year
we're
going
to
let
the
community
know
that
our
cap
for
this
year
is
expected
to
be
such
and
such.
But
if
there
is
a
major
change
in
funding
during
the
year,
we
reserve
the
right
to
update
you
and
say
that
the
number
is
now
such
a
crutch.
C
D
A
Phone,
but
we
need
to
give
them
some
kind
of
a
time
window
for
our
estimate,
so
we
can
do
it
arbitrarily,
but
we
still
need
to
let
them
know
if
we're
giving
them
a
cap
of
you
know.
Our
discretionary
approvals
are
not
going
to
exceed
ten
thousand
dollars.
That's
between
now
and
when
I
assume
the
end
of
the
year,
I
mean
we're
not
saying
indefinitely.
B
It's
also
not
bad
practice
for
us
to
start
thinking
in
terms
of
some
sort
of
loose
budget
I
mean.
Maybe
isabella
would
be
able
to
to
share
on
this
she's
preparing
stuff
for
fundraising
for
her
class,
and
you
know
some
of
the
very
base
level
questions
that
she
has.
You
know
it's
like
you
know.
What's
your
annual
budget
is
which.
D
A
D
I
was
making
a
technical
point.
I
think
we
do
start
it
when
the
program
begins.
We
refresh
it
at
a
moment
that
we
have
to
decide
tentatively.
A
I
just
think
for,
for
my
you
know,
brain
it
works
easier
to
just
do
it
at
the
calendar
year
at
the
beginning
of
each
year.
No
reason
we
can't
do
the
first
one
now,
okay,
so
we're
in
march.
Okay,
here's
what
we
expect
for
the
remainder
of
this
year,
but
then
come
january,
1st
2022,
we'll
refresh
it
and
we
can
update
as
needed
if
funding
goes
through
a
significant
change.
A
B
Yeah
john
and
I
have
had
a
couple
meetings
and
we've
scheduled
some
meetings
to
try
to
pull
together
the
final
documentation
for
that
and
to
make
sure
that
we
integrate
it
well
with
the
other
rollouts.
There's
the
the
badger
integration
there's
a
few
things
that
are
coming
out
of
the
oven
around
the
same
time.
So
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
everything
is
sort
of
tiered
and
how
it's
coming
out
and
ready
to
go.
It's
looking
good.
B
So
we
have
a
meeting
set
up
for
monday
with
evan
to
get
some
final
documentation
on
the
chapter
share
and
also
with
masby
on
monday.
D
I
I
want
to
say
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
It
turns
out-
and
this
is
sort
of
an
apology.
D
But
we
have,
there
are
so
many
interesting
incremental
developments
going
on
that
collectively
they're
going
to
amount
to
a
significant
upgrade
in
our
infrastructure.
D
I
just
want
to
mention
them,
but
in
the
next
week
or
two
we
will
give
a
systematic
presentation
to
spc,
because
that's
the
right
thing
to
do,
but
I'll
point
out
that
enable
funded
tracking
is
about
to
be
much
simpler
and
bob.
Your
separate
spreadsheet
will
no
longer
be
necessary
because
evan
has
done
a
full
audit.
D
The
wishbone
project
is
coming
along
nicely,
but
that's
a
new
initiative.
The
badging
infrastructure
is
going
through
a,
I
think,
very
helpful
and
impressive,
upgrade
that
won't
that
will
just
make
things
simpler
and
also
make
badges
a
feature
on
the
hub.
D
In
a
very
nice
way,
we've
talked
about
chapter
management
and
the
intakes
system,
it's
cooking
and
that
will
also
result
in
an
enriched
enable
map
and-
and
then
there
are
several
other
things
that
masby,
who
was
just
a
force
of
nature
when
he
gets
going,
has
in
mind
like
chapter
spaces
and
certificates
for.
D
Devices
delivered
by
a
chapter
to
an
actual
recipient.
Those
latter
two
are
relatively
new
and
we
haven't
done
anything
about
it.
But
the
point
is:
there's
sort
of
a
cascade
of
interesting
things
that
need
to
be
presented
to
present
company
for
review,
and
we
will
do
that.
I
just
didn't
want
to
shock
you
when
I
try
to
do
it
more
systematically
in
the
next
week
or
two.
B
It
might
be
also
worth
mentioning
that
a
lot
of
these
piggyback
on
on
each
other
in
terms
of
the
interface
in
terms
of
how
they're
integrated
into
the
hub.
So,
for
example,
the
badger
platform
exists
in
the
hub.
It's
going
to
have
almost
identical
structure
as
the
chapter
management
tools.
So
some
of
this
stuff,
you
know
you,
oh
john,
sharing
a
screen.
I
just.
D
B
Everybody
with
questions
thanks,
john,
but
I
do
think
that
these
are
these
piggyback
got
onto
each
other
and
and
despite
john's
compensation.
B
There
it
will
make
things
easier.
The
chapter
share
is
also
going
to
be
sort
of
at,
as
we
talked
about
the
past
with
the
wishbone
it
partners
with
the
the
auditing.
So
if
somebody
is
providing
regular
updates
of
their
activities,
they
can
participate
in
asking
for
for
funds,
which
is
not
that
much
different
than
what
jeremy
put
in
lumio.
You
know
discretionary
funds,
but
this
would
be
a
sort
of
community-based,
so
interesting
things
coming
awesome.
A
B
Go
here
and
we'll
we'll
do
a
demo,
I
think,
and
what
with
john
shared
in
in
the
map,
which
you
don't
have
to
share
again
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
set
up,
basically
a
rollout
plan
that
we
can
share
with
you
guys
so
it'll
say:
okay,
we'll
have
we'll
do
demos,
we
won't
do
it
all
at
once.
It
won't
be.
You
know
a
giant
map
it'll
be
some
points
that
we
can
walk
through
together
and
there'll.
D
It's
not
it's
a
completed
project
which,
at
this
point
I
would
say,
is
a
significant
achievement
and
not
yet
a
contribution
to
the
function.
A
Be
nice
to
put
it
to
use?
Has
anybody
heard
anything
about
video
production
for
nia
for
updates.
B
I
I
did
post
a
few
updates,
so
I've
been
trying
to
keep
up
with
the
pin
post
sort
of
a
monthly
cycle.
We
do
have
that
aligned
now
with
the
orientation
meeting
and
now
this
new
sort
of
follow-up
focus
meeting,
that's
gaining
momentum.
I
think
that's
worth
mentioning
that
people
that
are
joining
are
requesting
different
topics
within
that
pin,
post,
there's,
volunteer
requests
and
I
did
put
nate's
niap
support.
He's
got
a
lot
of
stuff
cooking,
but
hopefully
he
gets
some
help.
With
that
I
joined
the
nia
meeting
every
week.
A
Okay,
so
one
of
the
things
that
came
up
in
a
recent
meeting
that
we
had
with
new
members
was
a
really
great
recommendation.
I
thought
from
one
of
the
volunteers,
which
was
we
were
talking
about
our
process
for
onboarding
and
you
basically
stepped
through
a
series
of
you
know
getting
approved
and
getting
badges,
but
we
realized
that
we
have
a
gap
for
a
crucial
part
of
the
process
which
is
learning
the
sizing
methodology.
We
don't
have
a
badge
for
that.
So
what
happens?
A
Is
people
end
up
in
enable
web
central
and
they
run
into
this
experienced
volunteer
role,
that's
supposed
to
be
analyzing
photos
and
determining
sizing
and
they
get
very
intimidated
and
they
don't
feel
like
they're
qualified
to
do
that.
So
we
thought
it
would
be
really
helpful
to
put
together
a
process
to
get
people
trained
and
approved
on
the
sizing
methodology,
and
I'm
thinking
it
would
be
something
like
finding.
Maybe
three
sets
of
sizing
photos
from
you
know
actual
people
that
have
limb
differences,
but
different
room
differences.
A
Each
set
would
have
a
top-down
view
and
a
side
view.
You
know
just
like
we
do
with
the
ruler
and
the
photo
etc.
We
give
those
sets
of
photos
to
the
person
and
they
need
to
go
through
the
sizing
process.
Do
the
virtual
fitting
and
come
back
to
us
with
a
recommendation
for
each
set
saying
this
is
the
type
of
design
I
would
use,
and
this
is
the
scale
I
would
use
and
we
evaluate
their
recommendations.
A
There
is
no
one
right
answer,
but
we
would
evaluate
their
recommendations
if
it
makes
sense.
We'd
issue
a
badge
nobody's
objected.
There
is
a
thread
in
the
hub.
I
put
the
url
here
in
the
notes
if
anybody
wants
to
get
in
on
that
discussion,
but
I
think
at
this
point
I'm
just
gathering
suggestions
and
input
and
then
we'll
implement
I
mean
nobody's,
objected
but.
C
This
we've
had
the
discussion
on
it.
I
think
it's
a
great
idea.
I
would
add
further,
though,
that
until
we
have
a
fully
updated
blender
app
with
the
proper
overlays.
A
Well,
I
did
talk
to
peter
binkley
about
that
and
I
actually
realized
that
it's
not
as
out
of
date,
as
I
thought
there's.
Maybe
one
design
in
there
that
we
should.
You
know
one
or
two
that
could
be
removed,
that
really
don't
get
used.
But
there's
there's
really.
I
mean
we
already
have
the
phoenix
hand
in
there
and
the
I
think
we
need
to
add
in
the
kinetic
hand,
would
be
nice
and
I
think
there
might
have
been
one
other,
but
it
wasn't
as
I
when
I
went
to
look
at
it.
C
A
I
think
most
of
them
are
there
I
will
have
to.
Maybe
we
can
take
a
look
at
that
together
separately,
bob
it
has
the
osprey
it
has
the
phoenix
it
has
the
you
know.
I
think
the
raptor
is
still
in
there
which
we
could
remove.
It
has
the
k1
which
we
could
probably
do
without.
A
Let's
check
that
out
yeah,
we
will
get
it
updated
as
needed,
and
I
also
would
like
to
do
a
version
of
that
with
showing
people
how
to
do
that
in
fusion
360,
so
I
don't
have
to
mess
with
blender.
I
just
haven't
gotten
around
to
that,
but
anyway
we're
thinking
about
this
badging
process
resizing
anybody
have
any
thoughts,
suggestions,
objections,
anything.
A
Okay,
all
right
so
we'll
move
forward
with
that
tools
and
processes
from
leading
chapters.
So
we
had
yet
another
really
interesting
meeting
this
morning
with
our
friends,
zainab,
everton
and
terry
andrew
joined
in
this
time,
along
with
masby.
So
I'm
glad
they
got
to
see
what's
happening
so
we're
looking
at
what
are
the
tools
and
processes
that
these
very
large
successful
chapters
are
using?
I,
the
long-term
sort
of
goal
here,
is
coming
up
with
sort
of
the
best
of
breed
of
what
can
we
use?
A
You
know
across
all
chapters,
either
as
one
tool
that
everybody
uses
or
something
that
can
be
duplicated
and
given
you
know
everybody
could
be
given
access
to.
Maybe
it's
a
matter
of
taking
enable
web
central
and
and
looking
at
what
some
of
these
chapters
are
doing
and
and
taking
their
best
practices
and
working
it
into
enable
ed
central,
maybe
we'll
see
that
the
winning
process
and
the
winning
tool
is
so
different
and
so
far
removed
from
where
enable
web
central
is
maybe
we'll
dump
it
and
we'll
go
to
something
different.
A
I
have
no
idea
we're
just
trying
to
find
out
what's
going
to
best
support
the
community,
what
is
going
to
best
help
with
the
matching
process,
facilitating
cases,
delivery,
follow-up.
A
What
is
what
is
going
to
be
the
best
platforming
tool
to
help
support
the
communities
activities
and
give
us
ideally
a
good
view
into
the
the
collective
data
of
our
activity
and
get
some
nice
dashboards
and
things
like
that?
So
that's
what
we're
exploring
through
these
series
of
meetings
and
our
second
one
today,
third
one
next
friday
morning,
it
is
worth.
B
They
have
histories
of
thousands
of
registered
volunteers
and
hundreds
of
delivered
devices,
but
they
work
regionally
and
zynep
talked
about
that
specifically
today.
Terry
talked
about
that
in
the
past.
So
it's
it's
interesting.
I
think
we're
learning
a
bit
more
about
how
it's
adapted
in
different
regions,
and
you
know
how
we
can
grow
from
that.
A
If
anybody
else
you
know
bob
isabel,
anyone
has
a
special
interest
in
kind
of
understanding
more
what
those
chapters
are
doing.
We
did
record
today's
session
we'll
have
that
up
later,
so
we'd
be
happy
to
share
that
with
you.
A
E
No,
I
I
I
think
I
informed
everyone
I'm
trying
to
get
a
good
understanding
of
the
whole
ecosystem
I
meet
with
those.
Are
we
nate
monroe
later
today,
actually
and
then
there's
the
the
phoenix
meeting
tomorrow,
I
ordered
a
couple
different
books
that
that
might
not
seem
related,
but
on
open
source
development
and
also
you
know
different
things
like
that.
A
Love
it
spc
discretionary
fund
allocation.
I
think
we
covered
chapter
wishbone
project
recovered
handbag
is
a
corporate
giving
thank
you
just
curious.
Anybody
acknowledge
receipt.
A
Well,
people
are
busy.
Volunteering
needs
ben
made
some
nice
updates
on
the
pinned
post
and
we'll
continue
to
document.
Our
key
volunteering
needs
there
as
they
develop
onboarding
off
boarding.
We
talked
about
so
just
trying
to
we.
We
still
haven't
done
anything
with
this,
but
we
we
are
working
towards.
A
I
think,
a
clarified
onboarding
and
off-boarding
process
onboarding
being
more
important
here.
You
want
to
make
it
as
easy
as
possible
for
people
to
get
started
with
the
community.
There
was
one
that
recommended
a
one-page
quick
start
guide.
You
know
with
visual
easy
to
follow
steps.
Do
this,
then
this
then
this,
then
this
reach
the
finish
line.
You
know
and
we
we've
got
pieces
of
the
puzzle,
but
we
haven't
put
it
all
together
in
a
really
nice
easy
to
follow,
guide
so
we'll
get
there.
A
A
D
F
I
also
bob
gave
me
a
list
of
emails
of
new
chapters
and
I
just
sent
them
all
an
email
for
a
request
for
an
interview.
So
hopefully
I
can
get
some
information
on
information
they
wish.
They
had.
Information
was
easily
found,
and
things
like
that,
so
hopefully
that
will
be
helpful.
A
B
I
can
do
a
quick
screen
share
of
the
new
member
space.
That's
something
that
jeremy
recently
set
up.
So
all
new
members
to
the
hub
are
automatically
a
part
of
that
space.
I
have
had
some
good
activity
with
it.
So
in
the
past
we
had
a
pin
post
that
john
had
put
together
that
had
these
new
resources
are
these
links,
but
having
a
specific
space
for
new
members,
I
think
has
been
helpful.
I've
been
able
to
just
redirect
people
to
this
space.
B
So,
just
just
wanted
to
share
that.
I
have
been
in
the
forum
when
we
have
the
bot
giving
us
the
introductions
to
people
hi
isabella
is
this
you,
yes,
yeah.
I've
been
responding
to
them
and
then
sharing
the
space
with
them,
but
I
do
think
that
it'd
be
great.
If
people
want
to
sort
of
jump
in
with
those
introductions
about
half
the
time
we
get
responses
and
those
are
the
people
it
seems
that
are
joining
the
meetings.
B
So
you
know
we're
experimenting
with
orientation.
A
But
they've
been
really
helpful.
We
learn
a
lot
from
the
new
members
about
what
they're,
what
they're
looking
for
what
they
need
to
learn
that
they're
not
finding
yeah,
high-level
discussion
of
enabled
goals
and
visions,
so
this
kind
of
just
takes
us
back
to
this
whole,
just
just
kind
of
reality
check.
What
are
we
about?
What
are
we
doing?
What
are
we
trying
to
accomplish?
A
What's
working,
not
working
the
big
questions,
we've
highlighted
some
bits
and
pieces
of
the
commentary
here
in
bold,
and
I
guess
maybe
this
is
just
a
good
to
open
up
for
general
discussion
again,
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
specific,
I
don't
know
if
we
came
up
with
action
items
here.
I
think
it
was
more
of
a
general
discussion.
We've
been
having
bob.
Do
you
wanna?
I
don't
know
you
wanna
comment
on
this.
C
Well,
I
I
don't
think
I
have
any
new
comments
and
again
this
is
not
an
attempt
to
totally
remake
us.
It's
just
kind
of
let's
take
a
deep
breath,
step
back
and
and
see
what
what
we're
being
good
at
and
what
maybe.
A
And
I
guess
this
is
this
is
really
tied
in
with
the
meetings
that
ben
and
john
and
I
have
been
having
with
the
chapter
leaders
now
that
I
think
of
it,
because,
like
one
of
the
things
that
thierry
said
today
that
that
really
resonated
with
me
was,
we
were
talking
about
all
these
tools
and
he
said
well,
first,
you
got
to
focus
on
the
matching
and
the
production.
You
got
to
figure
out
how
to
match
the
right
people
with
the
right
people
and
and
how
to
make
sure
they're.
A
They
know
how
to
make
devices
well
and
fit
them
right
and
customize
them,
and
all
that
sort
of
stuff.
Don't
worry
about
the
tool
to
manage
it
later,
and
I
thought
that
was
really
smart
and
that
that
kind
of
ties
in
with
this
in
terms
of
the
effectiveness,
if
we
focus
on
the
tool
ahead
of
the
the
matching
and
the
the
production
oversight
and
all
that
stuff,
you
know
we
end
up
with
a
low
level
of
adoption
a
little.
C
B
So
that's
and
what
is
the
role
of
this
sort
of
regionalization
sort
of
lumpy
to
say
of
our
community?
So
what
andrew's
working
on
he's
joining
this
sort
of
international
level
discussion,
but
he's
really
focused
on
the
dialogue
between
his
local
chapters.
B
These
different
international
chapters
are
not
only
working
just
within
the
region,
but
they're
also,
like
zynda,
mentioned
she's
setting
up
a
team
in
ankara
she's
setting
up
the
team
and
the
other
sort
of
central
places,
just
like
what
everton's
also
doing
so.
How
does
that
work,
and
how
can
we
learn
about?
You
know
how
chapters
can
or
chapters,
but
how
can
members
match
with
each
other
to
collaborate?
B
It's
interesting
and
it's,
I
don't
think
we're
doing
it
as
well
in
the
us
as
they
are
in
other
places.
John.
C
A
A
I
suspect
that
if
we
were
doing
that,
we
would
have
better
results
than
a
self-service
approach
that
we're
doing
now,
even
if
it
wasn't
and
was
that.
A
C
A
The
preference
and
that's
exactly
what
they
do.
I
mean
it's,
it's
the
simplest
thing,
but
one
of
my
favorite
features
of
the
tool
france
has
is
when
they
look
on
the
map
and
they
see
somebody
requesting
a
device
and
they
go
to
match
him.
They
get
a
drop
down
list
of
their
volunteers,
sorted
by
who's
closest.
I
mean
it's,
the
easiest
thing,
but
that's
so
powerful
john.
D
So,
with
regard
to
this
sort
of
deep
soul-searching
about
our
high-level
goals,
the
conversation
we're
having
with
these
chapters,
which
astoundingly
I
don't
remember,
having
a
series
of
conversations
that
included
terry
and
zainab,
for
example,
who
have
two
of
the
largest
networks,
are,
I
think,
creating
a
moment
for
us
to
which
ought
to
inform
our
discussion
about
our
high
level
goals,
because
the
real
question
is
who
the
hell
are.
D
We
are
we
right
we're
a
bunch
of
americans
right
and
yet
we
sometimes
see
ourselves
as
a
focus
for
an
international
effort,
an
international
effort
that
we're
learning
a
lot
about
when
we
actually
talk
to
our
who,
what
turn
out
to
be
our
peers,
not
our
subdivisions
in
these
other
locations.
D
One
of
the
interesting
questions
that
is
emerging
from
these
discussions
and
I've
listed
john's
five
questions
in
the
document
is
whether
there
is
value
and
the
potential
of
common
systems
and
shared
data
and
tighter
collaboration
among
these
chapters
or
not.
And
the
answer
to
that
question
is
going
to
have
a
lot
to
do
with
how
we
end
up
seeing
our
role.
I
do
think
that
we've
been
less
successful
than
them,
because
actually,
we've
had
a
more
difficult.
D
C
A
Agree-
and
I
you
know-
I
would
hope-
and
I
think
this
has
always
been
the
vision
here-
that
the
strategic
planning
committee
here
would
be
able
to
represent
the
interests
of
the
overall
global
community,
and
we
can't
do
that
unless
we
really
understand
all
these
different
aspects
of
the
community
and
what
are
these
different
chapters
doing
and
how
are
they
being
successful?
And
that's
what
we're
in
the
process
of
doing?
A
I
think
a
better
job
of
now
of
of
getting
that
insight
and
getting
a
better
understanding
of
what
all
these
different
players
have
been
bringing
to
the
table.
And
hopefully
we
can
come
back
as
we
like
to
do
with
recommendations
for
the
community
of
hey
here's,
what
we
heard:
here's,
what
we
saw!
A
That's
working
really
well
and
what's
not
working
and
here's
what
we
think
might
be
a
good
option
that
would
support
everyone
and
and
see
if
we
can
get
buy-in
on
that,
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
find
you
know
a
tool
set
or
a
platform
that
either
would
be
centralized.
That
would
support
the
whole
global
community
or
would
be
easily
duplicatable
like
we
talked
about
today,
where
you
know
somebody
has
a
platform
that
works,
they
can
copy
it
for
another
chapter
and
they
can
have
their
own
instance
of
it.
A
We're
hoping
to
get
to
some
kind
of
a
standardized
platform
like
that.
That
would
help
to
support
all
of
these
other
chapters
that
we
have.
B
C
A
B
That'll
also
be
reflected
potentially
in
how
the
chapter
map
will
be
upgraded.
There's
been
some
discussion
about
thinking.
You
know-
and
this
came
up
last
year
in
the
year
before,
having
not
just
subdivisions
but
sort
of
different
categories
of
chapters
that
make
sense.
B
Right
and
being
having
the
classrooms
be
able
to
share
resources
easier,
and
that
kind
of
stuff
too.
I
do
think
john's
point-
is
a
really
good
one
that
if
we
look
at
enable
france
and
turkey
and
brazil
as
being
good
examples
of
these
sort
of
national
hubs,
regional
hubs
and
they
do
work
outside
of
their
national
borders
with
neighboring
countries,
you
know
it
does
recontextualize.
B
What
the
spc
potentially
could
be,
or
maybe
already
is,
is
an
effort
for
the
u.s
to
have
something
like
that,
and
it
does
potentially
shift
our
responsibilities
from
you
know
we're
trying
to
do
something
internationally,
that
we
haven't
figured
out
how
to
do
nationally.
So
I
think
maybe
our
priorities
could
be
adjusted
based
on
the
things
that
we
learned
from
these
national
hubs
and,
as
john
said
as
peers,
we
might
get
a
lot
farther
than
sort
of
as
representatives
of
regions
that
we
really
are
learning
about
through
them.
A
Yeah,
I
mean
that's
what
we're
working
on.
I
wouldn't
be
surprised
if
we
I
mean
from
what
we've
heard
already.
I
wouldn't
be
surprised
if
one
of
our
next
steps
is
to
try
to
work
a
more
manual
matching
process
into
the
ewc
system
that
we
already
have
bob
is
in
there
as
a
case
facilitator
he's
in
a
good
position
to
help
us
with
this
already.
A
If
I
can
convince
him
to
help
me
implement
that,
and
so
that
might
be
a
way
that
we
can
kind
of
step
towards
that
and
trial
it
in
the
u.s.
C
A
Other
thing
that
came
up
was
thierry
pointed
out
that
the
reason
they
don't
use
enable
web
central
in
france,
aside
from
the
translation
issue,
is
that
they
don't
like
having
a
case
divided
into
different
roles
and
responsibilities.
In
france,
they
assign
one
person
to
be
responsible
for
the
whole
case.
C
A
Zainab
over
in
turkey
said
the
opposite:
they
have
never
had
success,
having
one
person
at
the
end
of
the
whole
case,
they
find
people
that
just
want
to
help
get
sizing
photos
and
another
person
that
just
wants
to
print
parts
and
another
person
that
just
wants
to
assemble
and
they
put
together.
You
know
they
go
through
a
process
of
handoffs
to
get
through
a
case,
so
it
may
be
that
enable
web
central
will
end
up
retooling
it
so
that
you
can
choose
your
case
workflow.
A
That's
true:
it's
just
it's
not
really
facilitated.
Well,
yes,.
A
D
The
other
is
regional
enabler
of
in
of
american
enablers
and
the
other
is
an
educational
platform.
If
you
will
it's
probably
not
the
right
word,
which,
as
bob
points
out,
has
very
different
goals
and
objectives
and
frankly,
does
not
need
to
put
devices
into
the
hands
of
recipients
to
serve
as
a
as
a
good
educational
platform.
D
F
A
B
And
maybe
real
quick
to
add
to
that
synap
zooming
into
her
community
did
mention
that
they've
had
a
lot
of
success
with
these
sort
of
city
hubs
within
their
region.
So
and
these
hubs
aren't
just
delivering
devices,
but
they
have
these
regular
events
that
are
bringing
together
the
families
and
it's
sort
of
a
support
group.
B
I
think
that's
something
that
you
know
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
do
in
turkey,
but
she's,
saying
that
she's
not
able
to
do
from
istanbul
to
ankara
so
learning
how
our
process
goes
instead
of
sending
devices
out
how
we
can
maybe
send
resources
to
have
volunteers
create
community
hubs
having
a
system
like
an
api
that
masby
suggested
where
you
know.
B
A
I,
like
it
yeah
excuse
me.
I
think
this
is
worth
spending
more
time
with,
as
you
can
see,
I
just
kind
of
started
to
jot
down
some
ideas
of
what
would
fall
underneath
these
three,
however
categories,
that
john
put
in
here,
which
I
think
is
very
helpful
to
start
to
kind
of
organize
our
goals
and
objectives
and
kind
of
think
about
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
in
each
of
these
areas,
so
maybe
continue
to
try
to
flesh
that
out.
There
that'll
be
a
good,
ongoing
discussion.
A
F
Yeah,
so
actually,
just
now,
I
just
got
a
confirmation
for
an
interview,
so
that's
exciting,
so
I'm
kind
of
in
the
stage
of
the
process
where
you
kind
of
just
getting
all
the
information
and
it's
a
little
overwhelming.
I
have
three
different
drafts
of
different
kumu
maps,
so
I'm
hoping
to
have
a
couple
of
them
done
before
I
interview
so
my
plan
for
the
interviews
is:
ask
them
like:
where
do
you
get
information?
F
Where
do
you
wish
you
get
information,
show
them
the
current
kumu
map
and
then
show
them
the
designs
that
I'm
working
on
and
see
if
any
of
those
would
be
helpful
for
them
or
if
they
have
kind
of
a
different
idea
of
like
a
process.
Map
should
work
and
then
for
fundraising,
part
two
of
my
internship,
I'm
kind
of
at
this
spot,
trying
to
determine
for
my
fundraising
project
if
I
should
position
myself
as
us
as
a
naval,
specifically
rochester,
unlimited
or
limited
or
another
smaller
chapter.
F
So
I
have
a
meeting
with
my
fundraising
professor
tuesday
morning.
So
hopefully
he'll
help
me
figure
that
out.
But
my
idea
is:
I'm
leaning
towards
maybe
fundraising
specifically
for
wishbone,
because
it's
a
specific
project.
I've
actually
been
really
impressed
with
boz
being
able
to
get
all
these
unrestricted
funding,
which
unrestricted
funding
means
you
can
use
it
for
whatever
you
want,
because,
like
every
other
organization,
I've
worked
in
would
be
so
jealous
because
every
other
funding
they've
got
it
was
like
you
have
to
use
it
exactly
for
a
b
and
c
at
this
time.
F
A
D
A
C
Yeah,
excuse
me
just
just
a
thought
on
that
kidding
aside
ben.
Maybe
this
is
something
you
can
wrap
in
with
your
chapter
initiatives.
Adam
armfield
request
put
a
lumio
proposal
in
about
two
years
ago
for
various
projects
and
assistance,
and
we
we
at
the
time
we
said
look.
This
is
not
for
the
support
of
individual
chapters.
Remember
and
he
kind
of
went
away
with
it.
C
Maybe
we
need
to
proactively
reach
out
to
him
and
a
few
others
with
an
offer
of
saying
look.
We
can.
We
can
provide
you
five
thousand
dollars
for
valid
proposals.
Do
you
do
you
have
a
need?
Do
you
have?
Maybe
we
need
to
proactively
go
after
it,
because
I
know
this
october,
I'm
going
to
be
tasked
myself.
Tasking
me
with
responding
to
the
dora
foundation,
saying
here's
how
we
spent
your
money.
B
So
maybe
one
of
the
things
that
we
can
start
discussing
together
is
that
report
and
what
goes
into
that
report.
So
maybe,
if
we
can
start
thinking
about
what
does
dora
want
to
hear
it's
going
to
be
related
to
education?
It's
going
to
be
related
to
you
know.
B
Potentially
some
of
these
creative
cases,
it's
different
for
each
donor
and
isabella
is
going
to
be
working
on
some
of
this
stuff
too,
with
her
class,
I
think
if
we
can
get
a
template
from
her,
we
can
start
thinking
in
terms
of
these
categories.
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
too
hard
to
make
everybody
happy,
but
it.
A
And
I
think
a
lot
of
what
we've
been
working
on
recently
can
be
fit
in
there
too
right.
You
know
gathering
best
practices
from
the
other
chapters
and
things
that
we're
doing
to
help
facilitate
our
future
growth.
You
know-
maybe
maybe
we're
not.
You
know
directly
pulling
funds
for
that,
but
I
mean
we're
it's
tied
in
with
your
role,
we're.
A
B
C
B
Right
right,
so
maybe
what
I
can
do
is
I
can
put
together
a
draft
of
what
what
do
we
know
about
these
donors?
What
do
they
want
to
hear?
Like
bob
said,
you
know
dora's
domestic.
We
can
have
a
list
of
some
of
those
points
on
one
document
and
then
maybe
go
over
some
of
that
stuff
with
isabella
and
with
bob
and
come
up
with
something.
B
That's
easy
to
do
so,
some
of
those
things
right,
I
think
it'll
it
can
help
shape
the
work
that
I'm
doing
and
also
you
know
even
we're
talking
about
this.
You
know
look
in
the
mirror
with
the
spc
and
what
are
we
aiming
for
some
of
the
major
funds
that
we
have
are
domestic,
so
it
really
does.
A
A
C
A
Right
and
I
I
can
maybe
join
in
on
that
discussion
when
it
happens
too,
we
have
between
some
work
that
jen
owen
has
done,
and
my
partners
over
at
bitspace
they've,
both
developed
some
like
curriculum
materials
and
things
around
making
that
has
to
do
with
you
know
before
you
get
to
making
actually
enabled
devices
they
put
together.
A
These
programs
that
are
like
go
and
collect
all
the
materials
you
can
find
around
the
house,
the
popsicle
sticks
and
twist
ties
and
rubber
bands,
and
you
know
paper
towel,
rolls
and
all
this,
and
and
do
some
some
crafting
that
way,
so
that
those
kind
of
stories
could
fit
in
well
with
that.
It
sounds
like
too.
B
Yeah
we
lost
isabella,
but
I
will
follow
up
with
her.
I
think,
while
she's
doing
these
interviews,
it
might
be
really
helpful
not
just
to
create
a
kumu
map
that
we
think
applies
to
everybody
and
bounce
it
off
of
them,
but
to
try
to
map
what
they're
doing.
If
she's
meeting
with
these
regional
domestic
chapters,
it
might
be
worthwhile
to
to
have
her
map
the
differences
yeah.
B
A
Well,
that's
another
possibility
is
that,
while
she's
talking
to
them
about
you
know
helping
to
review
her
maps
andrew
can
kind
of
follow
up
behind
her
to
talk
to
the
chapters
and
capture
what
their
current
processes
are.
You
know
you
can
kind
of
divide
and
conquer.
Also.
B
A
D
Are
very
useful
and
you're
both,
I
think
very
insightful
observers,
so
you
might
want
to
compare
notes
and
see
if
you
can
add
to
each
other.
The
other
small
point
I
wanted
to
make
is
that
we've
just
talked
about
a
number
of
initiatives
that
dora
will
be
pleased
about,
and
that
will
also
address
some
of
bob's
concern,
but
the
other
part
of
bob's
concern
is
that
he
needs
to
see
money
spent
in
order
to
ask
for
more
money
and
right
now.
A
That's
a
good
point,
though,
for
our
when
I
do
this
right
up
for
the
proposal,
it's
worth
pointing
out
that,
in
order
for
us
to
get
more
funding,
we
need
to
show
that
we're
putting
the
existing
fund
into
good
use.
So
we're
going
to
put
this
funding
in
here
to
the
enable
fund.
If
you
guys
don't
use
it,
we
will
you
know,
because
it
has
to
be
used.
C
Can
I
add
one
one
other
point
to
that,
though?
Not
only
do
we
have
to
if
we're
looking
for
people
to
donate
again,
not
only
do
we
have
to
tell
them
what
we
used
it
for
we
have
to
make
a
coaching
case
of
why
we
need
more,
of
course,
so
it's
a
two-pronged
thing,
but
here
are
our
plans,
here's
what
we
could
do
if
you
gave
us
money.
A
By
the
way,
they
did
very
well
with
the
discretionary
funding
proposal,
because
we
can,
we
can
do
a
lot
with
that
I
mean
we
still
need
people
to
propose
projects,
but
we
can
start
taking
care
of
the
things
that
we
know
just
need
to
be
taken.
Care
of
that
are
going
to
help
the
organization,
and
that
will
help
us
to
show
some
of
that
investment.
You
know
so
we
can
at
least
make
sure
some
of
those
funds
get
used
in
good
ways,
but
we
do
need
to
get
people
writing
up
projects
too.
D
A
few
small
footnotes
lindsay
is
always
writing
educational
grants
to
granting
organizations
either
through
illumio
proposal
or
through
the
discretionary
fund.
We
can
send
some
money
her
way,
which
will
be
used,
I
think,
responsibly,
ethically
and
effectively
by
someone
who's
built
into
a
school
system
doing
good
stuff.
B
I
I
was
going
to
add
to
that.
I
did
have
a
meeting
with
kyle
this
week,
who
has
done
lumio
proposals
in
the
past
and
it
has
incredible
documentation
skills.
He
was
the
one
who
did
the
the
mobile
3d
printer
that
we
talked
about
earlier.
B
He's
interested
he's,
got
a
developer
that
he
works
with
and
he's
doing
all
this
bioprinting
stuff,
but
he
wants
to
create
an
educational
platform.
We
talked
about,
maybe
aligning
on
that.
That
would
probably
cost
some
money,
but
that's
something
that
and
I
have
worked
on
and
john
and
I
looked
into
air
table.
I
think
that
really
would
be
a
wonderful
platform.
A
And
it
ties
directly
to
one
of
those
high-level.
You
know
strategic
goals
that
john
laid
out.
You
know
yeah,
you
know
the
educational
side
of
it
so.
B
It's
sneaky,
though,
some
of
the
best
work
that
we're
having
done
is
currently
by
masby,
and
he
refuses
to
have
anything
to
do
with
funds.
So
I
think
there
is
an
interesting
dance
to
do
between
spending
money
and
also
valuing
that
some
of
the
best
work
that
we
get
is
is
fiercely
voluntary.
Well,
we
know
that.
A
D
A
E
Thought
on
this,
the
one
of
the
things
that
I've
learned
is
that
95
of
the
contributions
for
pretty
much
any
open
source
product
or
distributed
product
are
done
by
about
five
percent
of
the
community.
This
meeting
is,
is
reflective
of
that
right.
You
have
the
same
handful
of
people
who
have
been
here
for,
however,
many
years.
E
If
you
find
ways
to
enable
those
people
who
are
volunteers,
some
volunteers
will
not
want
to
get
paid,
but
there
are
some
volunteers
who
can
only
volunteer
x
amount
of
hours
because
they
have
to
do
their
other
job
so
that
they
can
pay
the
bills
right,
but
they
would
be
willing
to,
I'm
sure,
give
much
more
if
you
were
able
to
free
them
from
that
obligation.
Somehow.
E
So
as
an
example
in
the
meeting
when
nate
monroe
gave
a
presentation
a
year
or
so
ago,
one
of
the
things
that
he
mentioned
was
I'm
making
less
now
than
I
ever
have
before.
But
it's
the
most
rewarding
work.
I've
ever
done.
If
you're
able
to
find
that
type
of
person,
who's
who's
really
putting
themselves
into
it
and
fund
them,
and
it
doesn't
have
to
be-
you
know
millions
of
dollars
or
anything
but
but
get
get
them
the
ability
to
pay
their
bills.
E
D
Well,
the
point
is
well
taken
it
in
our
identifying.
The
circumstances
under
which
that's
the
right
thing
to
do
is
a
very
delicate
business.
We've
funded
nate
a
lot
I
mean
from
our
relative
to
projects
we've
done.
We
have
funded
nate
substantially
and
he's
produced
amazing
work
which,
however,
tends
to
veer
off
in
the
direction
of
nate's
irresistible,
urges
rather
than
our
priorities,
and
so
there's
there's
a
balance
of
that
sort
and
a
priority.
D
Similarly,
with
ben
who,
I've
already
said,
has
been
a
fantastic
investment,
there's
a
constant
struggle
to
sort
of
bring
these
pieces
into
convergence
so
andrew,
it's
just
to
say.
Your
point
is
very
well
taken.
A
And
I'd
like
to
add
into
that
that
they're,
what
we've
always
seen
in
in
this
community
is
it's
best
to
find
a
volunteer
that
will
step
up
and
take
ownership
of
a
certain
area
again
they're
few
and
far
between
and
we're
very
lucky
when
we
find
them.
But
when
somebody
like
bob
comes
along
or
somebody
like
masby
comes
along
or
or
you
know,
somebody
that's
willing
to
really
dive
in
and
take
on
responsibility
and
stick
with
it.
A
It's
rare,
but
that's
preferred
for
those
areas
where
things
need
to
happen,
need
to
get
done
and
there's
just
no
volunteers
willing
to
step
up
and
do
it
on
a
volunteer
basis.
That's
where
we
have
to
start
looking
at
okay.
Do
we
need
to
pay
somebody
to
get
this
done?
So
I
think
I
think,
as
long
as
we
look
for
volunteers
first
and
we
do
our
best
to
find
volunteers
to
do
these
things
and
we
we
look
at
paying
people
as
a
backup
plan.
That's
that's
what
seems
to
work
best.
B
Oh,
oh,
I
was
gonna
say
as
an
interesting
thing
to
consider
having
so
if,
if
bob
left
tomorrow,
he
does
so
many
things
that
would
be
hard
to
even
begin
to
figure
out
how
to
fill
some
of
those
roles.
B
Expectations
of
a
role
so
sort
of
like
what
I
did
with
this
media
coordination
makes
it
easier
for
something
to
be
funded
and
to
continue
sustainably.
So
I
think
there
is
a
way
to
do
it
with
within
roles.
It's
not
a
permanent
position,
but
it's
sort
of
like
a
scholarship
or
a
partnership.
B
A
I
had
never
thought
of
it
this
way
before,
but
ben
just
kind
of
brought
this
to
mind
in
my
my
previous
company,
where
I
did
consulting
one
of
the
things
that
we
would
do
is
business
continuity
planning
and
we're
really
talking
about
business
continuity
planning
here
we're
talking
about
identifying
single
points
of
failure,
we're
talking
about
making
sure
that
things
are
well
documented,
so
that,
if
you
know
something
happens
to
one
of
our
individuals
that
somebody
else
can
step
in
and
we
can
transition
without
things
being
shut
down
and,
of
course,
there's
a
lot
of
other
aspects
to
that
continuity
planning.
A
But
that's
that's!
I've
never
thought
of
it.
That
way-
and
that's
that's
a
really
important
thing
for
us
to
think
about.
B
And
they're
different,
I
mean
actually
it's
it's
just
as
it's
nice
to
have
a
role
like
I'm
in
a
role
that
I've
sort
of
defined
and
if
I
left
tomorrow,
you
guys
would
have
a
head
start
at
finding
other
people
to
fill
that.
But
it's
also
just
as
important
to
have
people
that,
like
john
fill
in
all
these
different
roles
and
can
jump
in
and
out
of
different
things
as
the
need
arises.
B
D
Yeah
I
just
pasted
a
just
issued
today
document
from
just
one
giant
lab.
D
Right,
I
will,
I
will
I'll
take
care
of
it.