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From YouTube: Ethereum Cat Herders Meeting #50 [2021/01/19]
Description
Agenda: https://github.com/ethereum-cat-herders/PM/issues/156
A
Welcome
to
ethereum
cathodes
meeting
50.:
this
is
big
one
like
we
are
completing
50
and
I
believe
in
another
couple
of
days.
We
are
also
going
to
complete
two
years
of
our
establishment.
The
group
so
welcome
to
the
meeting.
The
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
progress
on
the
ech
website
to
like
to
be
transparent
about
what
we
are
doing
and
how
we
are
trying
to
utilize
the
fund
that
was
provided
by
molok
on
the
development
of
the
website.
There
is
an
issue
created
on
ech
github.
A
A
The
content
should
be
like
very
easy
to
manage,
maybe
with
the
help
of
a
pr
or
something
it
should
be,
a
zero
to
low
maintenance
or
support
needed
website,
and
the
idea
of
having
the
summoning
the
duration
that
we
thought
would
be
good
for
the
development
of
this
would
be
three
to
six
weeks
but
yeah,
it's
up
to
the
proposes
so
shane.
If
you
would
like
to
go
ahead
and
share
your
proposal
and
mention
what
what
you're
proposing
and
how
we
would
want
to
proceed
with
that.
B
Absolutely
I'll
just
take
you
through
it
verbally,
although
pooja,
if
you'd
like
to
share
the
materials
that
I've
center
already
then
be
my
guest,
but
essentially
after
the
last
call
I
reached
out
to
michael
gessen
on
the
staker
community.
Michael
is,
among
other
things,
here's
a
mod
over
it's
the
youth
staker
subreddit.
B
B
What
that
would
what
that
would
entail,
or
what
that
would
get
us
would
be
clearly
website
front
end.
I
took
him
through
puja
the
contents
of
the
the
documents
that
you'd
provided
me.
So
I
took
him
through
over
the
course
of
a
couple
of
zoom
calls
the
the
prototype
and
the
requirements
document
and.
E
C
C
B
B
B
B
Over
and
above
the
fact
that
wordpress
cms
is
extremely
easy
for
users.
To
pick
up,
which
he's
saying
is,
is
could
be
a
good
thing
if
the
long-term
ambition
for
cat
herders
is
to
expand
its
network
of
contributors,
the
cost
would
also
get
us
a
ga
account
to
be
set
up
by
michael
slash
and
vetica,
which
would
track
all
of
the
usual
and
he's
given
us
the
option
of
whether
or
not
to
host
through
invesca.
B
If
we
were
to
host
through
them,
it
would
be
a
cost
of
an
additional
cost
of
25
per
month
in
terms
of
ongoing
maintenance.
There
are
a
couple
of
options,
namely
no
charge
if
it's
not
hosted
through
invertica
or
if
it
is
a
sort
of
150
dollars
per
month,
charge
for
a
sort
of
higher
tier
of
support
than
we
would
otherwise
get
so
that
that
is
the.
That
is
the
summary
of
the
proposal.
Clearly,
michael
is
someone
whom
we
know
is
massively
engaged
in
ethereum.
B
C
C
Then
the
second
thing
I
would
like
to
know
if
the
when
the
cat
hurts
want
to
go
in
and
post
something
to
wordpress
is
that,
like?
Is
that,
like
a
graphic
interface,
move
images
around
like
old
school
form
or
blog
posting,
like
wordpress,
usually
does,
or
does
it
take
markdown
or
what's
the
post
formatting.
E
E
C
E
Sure
so
for
my
proposal,
it
sort
of
assumes
that
we
want
to
do
like
a
react
style
website,
so
something
that's
built
from
scratch,
which
now
I'm
hearing
the
the
wordpress,
though
maybe
wordpress,
is
better
because
I
guess
it'd
be
more
manageable
but
anyway.
Basically,
my
proposal
goes
through
like
the
list
of
tasks
that
would
be
required
to
build
it
from
scratch
that
I
like
react,
for
example
implementing
gatsby,
which
is
basically
like
a
it
basically
just
copies
the
format
of
the
ethereum.org
website.
E
The
added
benefit
to
going
from
scratch
is
that
we
can
transfer
over
elements
to
the
ethereum.org
website
as
we
see
fit
so
and
then
also
yeah
the
the
the
drawback.
There
is
going
to
be
the
price
to
like
get
it
set
up
because
it
takes
developer
time
to
both
build
and
then
also
maintain,
custom
built
components
and
websites
and
then
for
the
hosting
it
would
just
be
hosted
through
netlify,
which
is
free
pretty
much.
E
I
mean,
I
think,
that
you
would
want
to
like
add
on
an
analytics
page
for
or
an
analytics
feature
which
is
about
ten
dollars
per
month,
and
that
will
help
us
look
like
the
data
flow
yeah,
it's
more
of
like
an
engineering
proposal
as
it
were.
So
it's
harder
to
go
through
every
single
task
or
anything,
but
essentially
building
from
scratch
gives
us
more
freedom,
but
might
be
more
challenging
to
maintain
and
take
longer
to
build.
A
So
both
alita
and
shane.
Thank
you
for
the
proposal
and
we'll
try
to
I
mean
we
already
have
created
an
issue
on
the
ech
github,
where
we
are
tracking
the
progress.
How
we
are
going
about
this
particular
development
will
update,
I
hope,
hopefully,
by
the
next
meeting
there.
We
should
have
a
clarity
on
whom
we
should
be.
You
know
who
should
be
working
on
this
proposal.
C
C
A
So
yeah,
alita
and
shane,
please
feel
free
to
add
your
proposals
over
there,
okay,
so
moving
on.
Thank
you.
Moving
on
to
the
next
item,
it's
it's
very
close
to
the
first
one
like
earlier.
We
were
discussing
of
having
a
page
on
ethereum.org
to
display
these
information,
but
now
that
we
have
been
discussing
to
moving
with
our
separate
page,
the
contribution
now
cannot
be
limited
to
one
page,
but
it
could
be
added
in
multiple
pages.
A
Based
on
these
suggestions
that
was
provided
by
ethereum.all
team
members.
We
have
identified
few
pages
like
one
is
history
page
where
they
are
keeping
the
upgrades
history,
but
few
elements
are
missing
like
the
name
of
the
eips
that
undergoes
every
every
upgrade
that
is
missing.
The
postmortem
reports
are
missing.
These
information
are
with
us,
but
if
somebody
is
interested,
we
can
create
a
pull
request
and
add
it
over
there.
A
A
A
dock
in
which
we
have
collected
these
things,
I'm
gonna
share
the
link
right
away
for
people
to
refer
here
right
there
in
the
ethereumdark.org
section.
I
have
added
few
items
that
I
believe
we
could
be
adding.
On
the
I
mean
we
could
contribute
adding.
This
is
a
volunteering
contribution.
Anyone
interested
in
the
group
or
the
community
can
go
ahead
and
create
a
full
request
to
add
these
details
to
the
ethereum.org
page
and
yeah
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
me
on
ethereum
gathered
as
discord.
If
there
is
any
question.
A
How
how
upgrade
goes
the
challenges
with
the
network
upgrade
if
there
are
any
and
to
collect
the
feedback
about
preferred
frequency
like
it's
been
a
year
since
we
had
our
last
upgrade?
So
it's
it's
a.
I
feel
that
it
would
be
helpful
if
we
get
the
sentiment
of
how
frequent
they
want.
What
numbers
of
eips
should
be
there
in
every
upgrade.
If
there
are
any
preference,
we
are
going
to
share
this
survey
in
the
ecs
discord
that
would
also
be
available
on
newsletter
and
our
website.
F
A
A
Okay,
so
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
meeting
no,
so
here
we
are
trying
to
provide
a
kind
of
summary
of
all
the
notes
that
are
documented
by
cat
herders.
I
believe
shane
has
also
showed
interest
shin.
It's
on
me.
I'm
gonna
add
you
to
the
schedule
very
soon,
maybe
from
next
week
onwards.
If,
if
I
can
adjust
you
to
the
calendar,
so
you
can
start
contributing
yeah.
That
would
be
really
great.
Thank
you
so
much
for
watching.
E
E
E
E
E
A
The
another
note
is
from
a
break
breakout
room
meeting,
so
we
had
this
meeting
yesterday
and
this
was
for
evm
384
and
bls
curve
discussion.
All
the
notes
are
linked
in
the
agenda.
Whatever
notes
we
have
already
published
it's
available
there
and
the
summary
of
breakout
room
meeting
is
available
in
the
agenda
itself.
In
the
comments
section
on
a
very
high
level.
In
this
discussion
we
got
some
quick
development
updates
on
both
the
proposals:
the
evm
384
and
the
bls
eips.
A
We
have
created
a
new
discord
channel
cryptography
to
discuss
these
two
proposals
and
understand
which
one
is
better
for
the
ethereum
mention
and
which
one
which
we
should
consider
for
the
upcoming
upgrade.
This
is
an
ongoing
discussion
and
I
believe
the
evm
384
team
is
going
to
publish
some
notes
today
or
tomorrow
and
followed
by
an
eip
for
this
particular
proposal.
A
A
A
We
had
really
good
conversation
on
d5
projects
and
flash
loan
and
how
it
is
helpful
for
people
the
another
propose.
Another
episode
recorded
was
for
two
proposals
in
berlin,
eip2929
and
eip2930,
with
vitalik,
buterin
and
martin
spending.
This
is
like
a
this.
Has
a
very
good
presentation,
like
people
try
to
explain
with
variants
like
what
are
the
new
things
that
is
coming
up
in
ethereum
future
upgrade
with
berlin.
A
That
is,
for
that
is
for
eip3085
wallet,
add
ethereum
chain,
rpc
method
with
eric
marks,
that
is
at
1830
utc.
Earlier
we
announced
that
we
are
going
to
have
greg
colwin
for
the
proposal
in
berlin,
but
for
some
reason
you
know
for
some
personal
reason
he
may
not
be
able
to
make
the
meeting.
He
will
try
to
rearrange
meeting
with
him.
Maybe
in
february.
A
A
The
next
topic
is
coming
a
new
discord,
channel
or
communication
channel.
It's
been
observed
that
people
are
posting
messages
of
job
services
that
they
can
offer
and
others
that
are
not
directly
related
to
current
discussion
topics.
So
I
was
thinking
of
directing
them
to
have
an
off
topic
like
channel.
That
would
be
easier
for
the
community
to
share
what
they
want
to
offer
and
help
to
avoid
spamming
other
channels.
A
So
the
proposal
is
to
create
a
few
new
channels
or
maybe
make
up
use
of
existing
channels.
So
the
new
one
new
is
off
topic
channel
for
posting
jobs,
resources
available
or
services
are
maybe
for
general
query
like
that,
and
the
second
one
was
to
report
scam
channels
like
in
early
2020.
Some
of
the
cat
editors
worked
with
the
ethereum
foundation
to
take
down
the
scam,
youtube
and
some
twitch
channels,
and
recently,
with
the
rise
in
the
price.
More
cam
channels
are
growing.
B
A
D
My
crypto
runs
something
like
that.
I
don't
know
if
they
have
an
official
channel
for
it,
but
if
you
reach
out
to
them
with
telegram,
they
run
something
called
my
scam
db,
which
I
can
try
and
pull
out
the
link
for,
but
I
mean
I
don't
necessarily
know
if
that
would
discount,
also
having
the
discord
channel,
it
could
even
be.
That
would
be.
The
best
thing
for
us
to
do
with
information
would
be
to
report
it
to
them
for
inclusion
in
their
database,
because
I
mean
they've
been
populating
it
for
years.
A
B
A
So
generally,
when
I
mean
like
what
we
did
last
year
well,
we
collected
a
list
of
youtube
channels.
They
were
claiming
themselves
to
be
helium
foundation,
but
they
were
actually
trying
to
scam
people
by
offering
some.
You
know
free
and
something
like
that.
So
we
notified
the
ethereum
foundation
and
they
took
some
legal
action
against
them
and
those
channels
were
pulled
down.
A
So
yeah,
that
is
the
idea
here,
like
not
only
for
ethereum
foundation,
but
in
general
if
people
come
across
like
sometimes
this
with
telegram
and
other
people
make
fake
identities
of
somebody
who
is
like
popular
in
the
ethereum
community
and
try
to
ask
so
if
somebody
comes
across
anything
like
that,
they
can
go
ahead
and
report.
So
it's
kind
of
creating
a
channel
to
report
and
reports
when
when
they
are
reported,
it
will
be
on
us,
the
cat
herders,
to
take
it
forward
with
the
ethereum
foundation
and
whatever
we
can
do
about
it.
A
A
So
I
know
shane
is
interested.
I
mean
you
mentioned
some
earlier
like
you
were
interested
in
sharing
a
summary
of
all
code
meetings
or
maybe
important
meetings.
You
did
that
in
finance
reddit,
and
I
saw
that
they
received
good
responses.
Thank
you
for
that
and
if
you
would
like
to
publish
anything
related
to
upgrade
any
eip
or
something
that
can
increase
awareness
or
education
on
ech,
medium
feel
free
to
send
a
draft.
B
A
Just
as
a
reminder,
if
people
find
something
they
are,
they
don't
know
where
to
go
and
they
are
looking
for
some
information.
They
can
always
post
that
an
ethereum
cathode
is
discard
or
create
an
issue
at
the
ethereum
cathode
as
github.
If
we
have
any
information
we'll
try
to
answer
that,
if
not,
then
at
least
we
can
point
towards
the
right
set
of
people
who
can
help
you
with
the
query.
A
A
A
F
Yeah,
just
just
a
quick
we're
we're
basically
looking
for
a
new
hire
a
new
partner
for
canonizer,
and
I
wondered
if
anyone
had
any
ideas
of
what
kind
of
salaries
a
I'm.
Just
I've
never
done
anything
like
this,
so
I'm
just
trying
to
survey
people
what
kind
of
salaries
do
typical
core
dev
level
engineers
get
paid
and
stuff
like
that,
and
what's
a
good
channel
to
post
a
job
offering
in
and
and
stuff
like,
if
you
guys
had
any
information
that
that'd
be
helpful,.
D
A
Yeah,
I
think
the
off
topic
channel
that
we
discussed
today
in
the
meeting
would
be
a
good
place
to
discuss
these
kind
of
stuff,
because
I
have
received
like
even
in
introduction
people
come
and
talk
about
like.
I
would
like
to
have
some
resource
like
this,
and
this
is
we
are
looking
for
these
people,
so
I
believe
that's
going
to
be
helpful.
F
A
A
If
any
meeting
is
documented,
that
is
90
minutes,
so
the
payment
would
be
revised
for
that
convert
five
it
to
pay
for
notes,
it's
not
being
done
yet.
I
have
talked
to
people
on
the
multisect
channel.
So
yes,
we
were
considering
that,
and
this
is
obviously
approved.
That's
why
we
are
raising
the
payment
there,
but
it
is
not
done
yet.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
We
will
be
providing
information
that
we
have
and
from
there
and
if
they
have
any
question
comment
or
concern
related
to
update,
because
not
everybody
can
join
the
all
core
dev
meeting
and
say
this
is
what
I
don't
like,
and
this
is
what
I
like.
So
we
can
act
as
a
bridge.
So
my
my
like,
I
was
having
a
thought
of
inviting
participation
from
community
as
well
as
sharing
world
around
that
cat
orders.
Are
there
to
help
you
out
join
date
of
god
and
yes,
the
information
will
be
we'll
try
to
provide
all
the
information.
D
Some
of
that's
probably
just
about
broadcasting
that
on
social
media
with
a
certain
level
of
frequency,
you
know
the
cat
herders
account
should
be
tweeting.
Like
you
have
any
questions
about
the
upcoming
berlin
fork,
you
can
ask
in
our
discord,
but
not
only
when
it's
down
to
the
wire,
I
mean
sending
out
a
message
like
that,
every
couple
of
weeks
or
once
a
month
or
something
like
that,
I
think
is
fine,
and
I
think
that
that
should
probably
be
done
across
a
variety
of
platforms.
D
My
initial
suspicion
would
be
that
the
different
kind
of
sub-ecosystems
that
exist
inside
ethereum
probably
hang
out
on
different
platforms
like
there.
I
have
some
weird
instinct
that
I
wouldn't
be
surprised
if
some
of
the
mining
entities
might
see
linkedin
when
they'd
see
twitter,
which
might
sound
bizarre,
but
I
wouldn't
be
shocked
to
find
out
is
true.
Truth
is
what
would
be
more
likely
than
either
of
those
would
be.
A
D
A
I
am
trying
to
figure
out,
I
mean
yeah.
I
have
to
reach
out.
I
know
who
may
have
I'm
trying
to
reach
out
and
will
get
that
because
I
do
not
have
access
to
the
emails.
I
mean
the
personal
messages
I
I
mean
like
there
are
a
lot
of
restriction.
I
just
use
tweet
tweetdeck
and
tweet
sometime
retweet
only
retweet,
so
I'm
working
on
that
and,
as
you
mentioned,
like
many
people
do
not
hang
out
in
discord.
D
A
D
D
A
D
A
I
believe
I
may
have
contacts
of
a
few
chinese
channels
we
have
last
year
we
did
some
events
with
the
eth
planet,
people
and
they,
I
believe
they
have
a
dedicated
channel
for
chinese
people.
They
did
some
translation
in
chinese
of
the
all
coder
meeting
and
at
two
meetings.
So
I
believe
we
can
make.
I
mean
we
can
contact
them
if
we
want
to
reach
out
yeah.