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From YouTube: English Google SEO office-hours from December 4, 2020
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A
A
A
bunch
of
things
were
submitted
already
on
youtube,
so
we
can
go
through
some
of
those,
but
if
any
of
you
want
to
get
started
with
a
question
of
your
own
feel
free
to
jump.
In
now,.
B
If
I
can
start,
if
I
can
be
first
would
be
sure
so
earlier
earlier
this
week,
actually
like
two
three
days
ago,
I
noticed
that
one
of
my
clients,
websites,
some
pages,
got
the
indexed
and
it
says
that
the
user
declared
canonical
is
it's
just
a
different
page,
but
then
I
checked
the
pages.
The
html
code
shows
that
it's
a
self-referencing
canonical,
so
it's
actually
pointing
to
the
correct
one
and
and
then,
when
I
use
the
live,
how
do
you
call
the
live
tool
to
check
the
live
url?
B
It
actually
shows
that
it's
the
correct
canonical
but
still
reported
there,
and
some
of
those
pages
are
still
the
index.
So
I'm
not
really
sure
how
that
happened.
I
checked
the
website.
Nothing
really
changed.
So
I
I
don't
really
know
how
to
tackle
that
problem,
because
we
lost
some
some
keywords
and
ranking
some
traffic
because
of
that.
A
Yeah
I
I
like
on
my
side
what
what
I'd
need
to
do
is
look
into
those
specific
details.
So
what
I
would
usually
recommend
for
a
case
like
this
is
to
post
those
details
in
in
the
help
forum
first
and
get
some
input
from
other
people
and
the
product
experts
in
the
help
forum.
They
can
escalate
threads
when
they
see
that
things
aren't
kind
of
working
out,
so
that's
kind
of
the
direction
I
would
have
there.
A
A
We
pick
up
the
redirect
and
we
use
that
kind
of
as
a
canonical
signal
those
kind
of
things
and
that
can
sometimes
trigger,
depending
on
the
way
that
we
crawl
so
maybe
like
for
the
normal
crawls
it
doesn't
trigger
and
then
every
now
and
then
it
does
trigger,
and
it
triggers
right
at
that
moment
when
we
pick
up
something
that
we
want
to
use
for
indexing.
A
But
that's
something
that
sometimes
is
noticeable.
When
you
look
at
the
specifics
of
the
site
like
if
you
look
at
the
other
urls,
then
you
can
see.
Oh,
they
have
similar
issues,
sometimes
which
kind
of
points
to
this
kind
of
sporadic
type
of
an
issue,
and
sometimes
it's
just
like,
like
I
don't
know
some
one-off
quirk
that
might
have
happened,
maybe
from
a
cdn,
that's
involved
in
the
middle,
maybe
from
the
hosting
side.
Something
like
that.
B
Okay,
interesting-
and
I
also
wanted
to
ask-
I
noticed
that
there
is
many
other
pages
that
are
not
indexed
because
of
the
trailing
slash.
I
don't
know
this
is
the
first
time
like
like
most
of
the
other
pages.
You
don't
see,
you
don't
see
that
you
know
sorry
many
other
websites,
I've
seen
that
there's
nothing
in
the
report,
even
though
you
know
the
pages
have
the
trailing
slash
or
if
it
doesn't
have
it,
it's
still
considered
the
same
page,
but
for
this
particular
website
it
seems
like
many
pages.
B
A
A
So
we
wouldn't
by
by
default,
try
to
equate
those
if
we
crawl
them
and
we
see
the
same
content,
then
we
pick
them
up
and
we
try
to
use
them
for
canonicalization.
So
that's
something
that
then
kind
of
happens
as
a
second
step
and
depending
on
the
way
that
you
have
the
site
verified
in
search
console.
If
you
just
have
like
that,
subdirectory
verified
and
the
url
is
the
one
without
the
trailing
slash,
then
we
would
assume
that
url
is
no
longer
a
part
of
that
site.
A
A
C
I
got
one
so
quickly
on
the
core
update
that
was
released
yesterday.
One
is,
could
I
have
some
understanding
on
the
rationale
behind
the
timing
of
that,
if
you
at
all
were
involved
or
saw
any
some
type
of
emails
around,
why
you
timed
it
for
right
after
cyber
monday,
but
before
the
holidays?
What's
the
rationale
there.
A
I
don't
know
I
don't
I
mean
I
don't
know
from
from
my
side.
It
feels
like
a
reasonable
time
like
I,
I
wasn't
involved
in
the
decisions
there,
but
it's
like
not
not
really
in
the
holiday
season
and
kind
of
after
the
the
whole
thanksgiving
rush,
so
it
felt
like
I
didn't,
at
least
from
my
point
of
view.
It
wasn't
something
that
I
would
have
flagged
and
said.
Oh,
you
need
to
watch
out
for
this.
C
Okay,
thank
you,
and
two
people
are
asking
me
with
the
core
update.
This
doesn't
mean
passage,
indexing
or
ranking
is
out
you'll
that
has
not
gone
out
with
this.
It's
not
live
yet
in
terms
of
the
passage
indexing.
C
I
know
because
you
said
at
the
end
of
the
year
passage
indexing
will
be
live
by
then,
but
it's
not
out
yet
right.
As
far
as
you
know,.
A
I
I
don't
think
I
mean
I
I
don't
know
if
it's
out
yet,
but
usually
the
the
core
update,
wouldn't
be
something
that
we
would
bundle
with
other
kinds
of
changes
like
that.
So
it's
it's
something
that
maybe
is
coming
out
at
the
same
time,
but
it
wouldn't
be
because
of
the
core
update.
It
would
be
kind
of
like
more
of
a
coincidence.
D
Hello,
hi
yeah,
hi
jen.
How
are
you
I
left
you
one
of
the
comments
on
the
post,
but
I.
B
D
So
you
know
basically
the
problem
that
we're
facing
and
what
I
wanted
to
ask
you
is,
if
you
guys,
still
have
reports
on
any
canonical
box,
for
us
a
content
and
for
usa
country,
because
of
what
we
do
is
we're
sports
international
media
company
and
we've
been
having
a
lot
of
problems
with
our
live
blogs,
which
you
know
usually
has
recurrent
teams,
because
you
know
they
play
two
times
during
the
season
and
only
in
us
selected
as
language
and
selected.
D
As
I
mean
english
as
the
language
and
usa
as
a
country
we
don't
show
up,
even
though
google
search
console,
it's
reporting
that
it's
indexed,
but
the
funny
thing
is.
If
you
go
to
uk
with
english
language
setup,
we
show
up
as
the
first
you
know,
serp
in
most
of
the
searches.
So
it's
something
that
is
happening
specifically
just
for
us
and
it
only
happens
for
our
live
blogs,
which
we
assume
it
has
to
do
with
something
that
you
know.
D
It's
recurrent
teams
that
we're
mentioning,
because
we're
not
really
having
the
canonical
box
for
any.
You
know
like
news
that
is
happening,
which
we
know
we
only
report
once
so.
I
was
wondering
you
know
if
you
guys
have
any
reports
on
the
on
the
canonical
box,
that
it
still
happens,
because
this
just
started
happening,
maybe
two
months
ago
before
that
it
was,
you
know
perfectly
normal,
showing
up
as
as
usual.
A
Yeah,
I'm
I'm
not
aware
of
any
issues
around
kind
of
the
canonicalization
and
indexing
at
the
moment
so
and
then
also
from
how
you
describe
it.
It
sounds
like
it's
less
an
issue
of
indexing
and
more
an
issue
of
around
kind
of
like
internationalization
for
the
site.
So
just
just
to
double
check.
Do
you
have
separate
urls
for
the
uk
or
do
you
have
the
same
url
that
is
just
visible
in
the
uk,
but
not
visible
in
the
us.
D
It
is
the
same
url
and
we
just
placed
reflex,
but
our
source,
it's
as
a
publisher
for
us,
so
everything
everything
is
working
supposedly
the
way
it
should
it
just
stopped
working
two
months
ago,
and
it
only
stops
working
for
live
blogs,
which
we
use
recurring
recurring
teams,
if
we,
you
know,
make
a
live
blog
of.
I
don't
know
a
game
that
hasn't
been
happening
much
or
from
a
team.
You
know
that
is
not
that
that
you
know
common.
D
A
Yeah,
I
don't
know
that
to
me
that
doesn't
sound
like
an
indexing
bug.
That
really
sounds
like
something
around
internationalization
and
the
the
hreflang
side.
There
might
also
be
something
that's
playing
a
role
there.
How?
How
do
you
have
the
ahrefling
set
up?
Is
that
like
one
english
url
and
then
like
a
spanish
url
or
a
french
url,
or
how
do
you
link
those.
D
Yeah,
we
just
have
one
url
and
we
just
then
place
if
it's
you
know
for
nus
or
n
only
or
you
know
and
mx,
depending
on
on
which
countries
we're
trying
to
attack
through
the
air
through
the
reflex.
A
Okay,
I,
like
I,
I
don't
know
I'd-
have
to
look
at
the
specific
details,
but
offhand
it
feels
like
something
where
maybe
with
the
hreflang
setup,
something
is
is
not
quite
the
way
that
it
should
work
and
that's
something
that
sometimes
causes
more
problems
sometimes
causes
less
problems,
but
probably
that's
something
that
you'd
be
able
to
resolve
there.
A
What
what
you
could
do
is
maybe
post
some
of
the
details
here
in
the
chat,
and
I
can
pick
up
the
chat
afterwards
or
post
the
details
in
the
help
forum
as
well,
so
that
kind
of,
like
some
some
other
people,
can
throw
some
eyes
at
it.
D
Okay,
all
right
john,
so
I
will
post
it
on
the
forum
and
then
I
will
let
you
know
where
it
is,
so
you
can
check
it.
Thank
you
so
much
sure.
Thanks.
E
Yes,
great
so,
as
you
maybe
know,
on
the
twitter
right
now,
so
we
have
the
problem
with
the
the
the
discover
feed
in
sweden.
We
have
had
that,
since
I
think,
like
in
the
middle
of
the
december
last
last
year,
and
it's
it's
a
fairly
amount
of
sites
that
have
this
issue
and
so
yeah
they
are.
This
sites
are
not
showing
up
in
their
swedish
discover
feed
when,
when
you
are
in
sweden,
but
if
you
like
turn
on
a
vpn,
then
it's
turned
on
and
yeah.
A
A
A
Great
thanks
cool
okay,
let
me
run
through
some
of
the
questions
that
were
submitted
and
we'll
definitely
have
more
time
for
for
your
direct
questions
as
well.
Along
the
way,
let's
see
I'll
try
to
run
through
these
fairly
quickly,
since
it
seems
like
lots
of
questions
are
here
when
it
comes
to
anchor
text
from
external
links
pointing
to
my
website.
Do
you
check
the
anchor
text
only
on
a
page
by
page
basis,
or
do
you
also
look
at
site-wide
anchor
text?
A
You
notice
this
in
particular,
if
a
page
is
blocked
by
robot's
text
and
is
still
indexed,
then
you'll
see
kind
of
the
anchor
text
as
something
that
we
might
use
as
a
title
in
the
search
results
for
that
page.
But
we
also
look
at
the
anchor
text
for
sites
overall,
because
it
does
give
us
a
little
bit
of
a
kind
of
a
broader
understanding
of
how
that
site
is
embedded
in
the
web.
A
These
are
high
volume,
high
competition
keywords,
any
idea.
What
might
be
the
cause
of
this?
I
don't
know.
I
I
occasionally
see
that
from
people.
It's
not
something
that
I
would
say
is
completely
out
of
the
question
that
this
kind
of
thing
happens:
oftentimes,
it
settles
down
because
our
algorithms
figure
out,
oh,
this-
is
kind
of
a
stable
place.
How
we
should
be
ranking
this
site.
A
Then
my
website
is
losing
indexing
for
some
weeks.
My
website
has
been
losing
indexing
for
no
apparent
reason
and
no
significant
changes
have
been
made,
except
for
the
usual
ones
that
are
adding
and
removing
vehicles.
A
A
So
that's
something
where
what
what
I
would
do
is
try
to
figure
out
which
urls
you
really
care
about,
and
first
of
all
put
those
in
a
sitemap
file.
If
you
haven't
done
so
already
and
then
secondly,
try
to
figure
out
like
are
these
urls
actually
being
indexed
properly
and
additionally
look
at
the
other
urls
that
are
being
indexed
for
the
website
at
the
moment,
if
you
look
at
a
site,
query,
that's
kind
of
a
rough
idea
to
do
that
and
think
about
how
those
urls
were
discovered.
A
So
the
urls
that
you
don't
care
about
like.
Why
is
google
spending
so
much
time
on
them
with
the
end
goal,
essentially
being
kind
of
making
it
really
clear
for
search
engines
which
urls
you
want
to
have
index
being
absolutely
certain
that
google
can
crawl
your
website
normally
and
find
those
urls
and
can
focus
on
just
those
urls
that
you
care
about?
A
So
that's
kind
of
my
my
recommendation
there.
Sometimes
it
also
helps
to
use
something
like
a
third
party
crawler
tool
to
kind
of
crawl.
Your
website,
if
you're,
not
sure
where
these
urls
are
being
picked
up
on,
there
are
a
bunch
of
different
tools
out
there.
Some
of
them
are
really
good,
so
that
might
be
an
option
to
kind
of
try
out,
while
you're
figuring
out.
Why
are
search
engines
kind
of
getting
lost
within
my
website.
A
A
Does
google
consider
this
to
be
an
issue,
so
I
don't
know
exactly
what
what
you're
seeing
there.
So
it's
really
hard
to
say
in
particular
a
lot
of
the
different
sections
in
the
search
results
page
trigger
in
individual
countries
or
trigger
differently
in
individual
countries.
So
when
I
search
in
english,
I
tend
to
get
swiss
sites
in
english.
A
If
you
can
send
me
some
screenshots
or
maybe
post
them
on
twitter
or
add
them
here
to
the
youtube
comments,
then
I'm
I'm
happy
to
take
those
and
also
send
those
to
the
teams
here
that
work
on
the
search
results
page,
I
think
in
general,
when
it
comes
to
different
elements
on
a
search
results
page.
A
It's
also
always
kind
of
tricky
to
find
that
balance
between
providing
lots
of
usefulness
for
users,
lots
of
value
for
users
and
ultimately
providing
too
much
clutter,
essentially
in
the
search
results
where,
if
you
look
at
the
search
results,
page
are
just
so
many
different
items
there
and
they're
all
kind
of
competing
for
your
attention,
and
sometimes
it
can
happen
that
you
have
different
sections
that
show
the
same
content
which,
from
my
point
of
view,
is
kind
of
just
I
don't
know
unnecessary
clutter.
It's
not
something.
A
I
would
consider
to
be
a
serious
bug
or
anything
like
that,
or
it's
definitely
not
something
we
would
do
on
purpose,
but
sometimes
it
just
kind
of
evolves
in
that
direction.
Over
time,
in
having
examples
where
this
is
kind
of
annoying,
that's
really
useful
to
pass
on
to
your
team
so
that
they
can
understand.
Oh
if
these
different
elements
in
the
search
results
page
are
triggering
and
showing,
we
should
make
sure
to
not
show
the
other
thing
here,
because
that's
essentially
showing
the
same
thing
or
not
as
useful
for
the
user.
A
I'd
like
to
know
how
google
indexes
sites
with
new
extensions
like
club
or
dot
tools,
is
there
any
preference
for
indexing.com
domains
over
these,
so
we
treat
all
of
the
new
top-level
domains
like
any
other
generic
top-level
domain.
So
there
is
no
kind
of
additional
value
to
having
keywords
in
the
top-level
domain.
There's
no
additional
value
in
having
city
names
or
country
names
in
the
top
level
domain.
We
treat
them
all
like,
like
any
other
generic
top-level
domain
like
leica.com.
A
Essentially
so
from
that
point
of
view,
if
you
find
a
domain
name
that
works
well
for
your
site,
that
you
want
to
keep
for
the
long
run
and
it's
a
new
top
level
domain
then
definitely
go
for
it.
I
think
that's
perfectly
fine,
but
also
keep
in
mind
that
there
is
no
kind
of
bonus
for
using
a
particularly
well
well-matching
top-level
domain.
It's
not
that
we
would,
from
an
seo
point
of
view,
treat
those
as
anything
better
than
other
generic
top-level
domains.
A
What
happens
to
visitors
if
we
post
duplicate
content
regularly,
I
don't
know
I
mean
visitors
are
kind
of
out
of
our
control,
but
from
from
my
point
of
view
like,
if
you
regularly
post
duplicate
content
that
is
already
on
your
website
or
that's
findable
on
other
sites,
my
assumption
is
a
lot
of
times.
Visitors
will
just
end
up
going
somewhere
else,
because
why
should
they
go
to
your
site
if
they've
already
seen
that
content
somewhere
else?
A
If
our
business
has
good
ratings
on
some
authentic
websites
can
showing
those
ratings
to
on
our
site,
influence
algorithms
rank
or
rankings,
not
considering
user
behavior.
I
don't
think
that
changes
anything.
So
if
you
have
like
a
five-star
rating
from
some
other
service-
and
you
put
that
on
your
website,
I
don't
think
our
ranking
algorithms
will
look
at
that
and
say.
Oh,
this
sounds
like
a
good
thing
so
that,
from
that
point
of
view
from
just
purely
an
seo
standpoint,
I
don't
think
that
changes
anything.
A
Obviously,
users
might
care
if
you
show
users
that
your
website
is
trustworthy,
that
it's
regularly
kind
of
audited
and
kind
of
reviewed,
then
that's
something
that
they
might
care
about,
but
at
least
from
an
seo
point
of
view,
there's
no
immediate
ranking
change
with
this
new
passage
indexing
rolling
out
soon.
Will
this
help
a
site,
for
example,
a
blog
to
get
better
rankings
for
more
opportunities
for
more
search
terms
per
article
that
is
published
so
the
kind
of
the
passage
ranking
or
passage
indexing
update
that
we
talked
about
there?
A
I,
like
I
mentioned
in
the
beginning.
I
don't
know
the
timing
of
this
when
when
it
will
be
visible
where,
but
essentially
the
idea
is
to
take
particularly
long
pages
and
understand
the
relevant
parts
within
that
page
a
little
bit
better,
so
that
we
can
show
those
appropriately
in
the
search
results.
A
So
that's
something
if
you
have
really
long
articles,
then
it
might
be
that
we
pick
up
something
useful
in
the
middle
and
we
send
users
to
that
directly
if
you've
been
doing
seo
for
a
while.
Now,
if
you've
been
focusing
on
your
website
for
a
bit,
then
probably
you've
already
split
those
ex
like
exceptionally
long
articles
into
shorter
ones
anyway,
so
that
it's
easier
to
focus
on
specific
aspects
of
what
people
are
searching
for
and
in
those
cases
like
there's.
Nothing
really
that
you
need
to
do
there.
A
So
that's
something
where
I
like
to
see
it
more
as
if,
like
you
have
really
long
pages
on
your
site
and
you've,
never
really
bothered
to
kind
of
watch
out
for
what
users
actually
want
and
realize
that
oh
users
are
looking
for
a
part
of
the
page,
not
the
full
page.
Then
that's
something
where
I
assume
passage.
Ranking
will
help
out
a
bit,
but
it's
not
the
case
that
we'll
just
take
any
article
on
the
web
and
say:
oh
there's,
like
a
good
word
on
way
down
on
the
bottom
of
the
page.
A
F
Yes,
so
I
had
a
question
that
was
very
similar,
a
similar
you
and
you
answered
part
of
it
in
there
where
you
had
said
you
know,
if
you're
a
good
savvy
seo,
you
may
have
already
taken
a
long
page
and
split
it
out
into
multiple
pages.
F
So
I
guess
what
I'm
wondering
so
that
that
is
still
the
recommendation.
I
guess-
and
and
you
know
so
I
I
had
an
example
of.
Let's
say
you
have
a
business
that
offers
you
know
four
or
five
services.
F
It
is
previously
what
I
would
have
always
taken
that
and
done
and
created
five
separate
pages
one
for
each
service,
so
that
you,
google,
would
understand
the
topic
of
that
page.
F
But
with
passage
indexing
I
was
wondering
perhaps
does
it
make
more
sense
to
have
one
single
page
that
lists
all
five
services,
potentially
hoping
that
passage,
indexing
or
passage
ranking?
As
you've
said
a
couple
times
now
passage
ranking
understands
each
chunk
and
the
reason
why
I
think
that
that
could
be
advantageous
perhaps
is
consolidation
of
link
authority
and
and
like
link
building.
So
you
have
one
url
now
that
has
multiple
links
and
that
page
could
be
very
authoritative.
A
I
don't
know
I
so
from
from
my
point
of
view.
I
would
test
it,
I
I
would.
I
would
see
how
it
works.
I
I
don't
think
by
design,
that's
necessarily
a
bad
way
to
do
it.
I
also
don't
think
it's
necessarily
kind
of
like
always
going
to
be
the
right
approach,
because
when,
when
users
are
looking
for
something
that's
kind
of
on
the
bottom
of
the
page
and
they
land
on
the
top
of
the
page,
then
maybe
they'll
be
lost
and
your
conversions
will
suffer
a
bit.
A
F
Theoretically,
that's
how
passive
ranking
or
passage
indexing
could
have
could
work
where
now
you
know
this
with
it.
Previously,
they
had
this
one
page
with
10
different
services
it'd
be
hard
to
understand
the
topics
of
all
of
them,
but
now
passage
ranking
might
better
understand.
Well,
this
is
about
service,
a
this
one's
about
service
b
and
then
rank
those
sections
or
passages
appropriately
for
queries.
F
A
Yeah,
I
I
don't
know,
I
mean
it's
it's
kind
of
tricky,
because
we
we
could
still
understand
that
that
part
of
the
page
is
appropriate
for
that
query.
But
would
would
there
perhaps
be
a
factor
saying
well,
the
other
parts
are
kind
of
contrary
to
that
part
of
the
page
is
understanding
like.
If
you
have
completely
independent
services,
then
it
might
look
like
oh
you're
offering
consulting
and
you're
selling
products,
and
if
someone
is
trying
to
buy
a
product,
then
it's
like
well
which
how
how
do
we
weigh
these.
F
If
it's
way
off
yeah
that
probably
but
like
maybe
an
electrician
that
offers
you
know,
you
know
outdoor
lighting,
interior
lighting,
all
these
different
services,
they're
all
electrical
services-
yeah,
okay,
that's
cool!
I
might
give
it
a
shot.
A
A
I
mean
you
could
also.
You
could
also
do
something
like
that
now
and
see
what
the
effect
is
currently
because
some
effect
will
also
be
there,
because
it's
always
this
balance
of
taking
multiple
pages,
that
kind
of
have
to
rank
on
their
own
you're,
diluting
the
value
or
you're
concentrating
that
value
on
a
single
page.
A
So
some
effect
you
might
see
already
and
when
we
switch
that
on,
you
might
see.
Oh
well
overall,
there's
an
even
stronger
effect
now,
but
I
I
honestly
don't
know-
and
I
think
it's
something
that
probably
depends
quite
a
bit
on
on
the
type
of
site-
that
it
is
so
just
taking
any
random
10
pages
and
putting
them
together
on
one
page,
that's
probably
a
bad
idea,
but
maybe
there
are
certain
configurations
like
you
mentioned,
where
it
could
make
sense.
Yeah
awesome.
A
A
Okay,
cool:
are
you
still
planning
on
dropping
support
for
the
webmasters
discovery
document
end
of
the
year?
There
haven't
been
any
updates
since
the
original
blog
post
in
august,
and
I
urgently
need
to
plan
changes.
If
this
is
still
true.
I
just
double
checked
what
the
team
I
haven't
heard
back
so
I'll
I'll
double
check
to
see
what
what
is
happening
there
and
maybe
post
an
update
in
the
youtube
comments
to
your
question.
A
From
looking
at
the
old
blog
post
from
august,
it
seemed
like
it
was
pretty
clear
that
we're
going
to
drop
that
discovery
document,
but
maybe
there's
a
new
discovery
document
that
you
can
switch
to.
I
don't
know
feels
a
bit
like
I'm
following
you,
but
I
could
really
use
your
help.
We
have
a
website
which
is
a
finished
site
that
got
penalized
in
january
for
thin
content.
Since
then,
we
basically
rebuilt
it
from
scratch.
Addressing
every
possible
issue
related
to
thin
content.
A
Affiliation
on
the
site
is
minimal
and
with
value
to
users
we're
trying
our
best
to
make
the
site
as
good
as
possible
for
them,
but
we
keep
getting
rejected
from
the
reconsideration
request
and
not
sure
what
to
do
now
and
in
general,
how
does
a
site
owner
get
more
clarity
when
dealing
with
such
issues,
such
as
manual
actions,
so
kind
of
to
to
the
last
part,
with
regards
to
getting
a
bit
more
clarity,
what
I
would
recommend
doing
there
is
posting
in
the
help
forum
in
the
search
search,
central
help
forums
because,
like
I
mentioned,
the
product
experts
have
seen
a
ton
of
websites
and
they
can
give
you
advice
in
lots
of
different
directions,
especially
with
regards
to
manual
actions.
A
A
So
that's
something
where,
if,
if
that's
the
case,
if
you
have
a
lot
of
different
sites
that
are
essentially
all
the
same
content,
then
that's
something
I
would
try
to
resolve
in
addition
to
just
fixing
things
on
this
one
particular
site,
because
one
of
the
things
the
web
spam
team
kind
of
worries
about
is
you
fix
this
one
site
and
your
manual
action
is
resolved
there.
And
then
you
take
that
and
you
use
that
across
a
big
network
of
sites.
A
So
that's
something
at
least
to
address
in
a
reconsideration
request
when
you
submit
that
and
probably
something
the
product
experts
would
also
pick
up
on
where
when,
when
they
look
at
your
thread
and
look
at
your
site,
they're
like
oh.
But
what
about
this
network
of
sites
that
you
have
here?
What?
What
is
the
relationship
here?
A
Yeah
and
if
you
end
up
not
getting
anything
useful
from
from
the
help
forum
feel
free
to
escalate
it
here
in
one
of
these
office
hours
again,
and
I
can
pass
that
on
to
the
website
team
directly
to
see.
If
I
can
get
something
more
specific,
that
I
can
point
you
at
when
considering
multi-language
and
multi-regional
sites
and
hr
flank
implementations.
A
A
So
something
like
domain.com
uk
would
be
perfectly
fine.
You
can
set
geotargeting
for
that,
however,
something
like
domain.se
slash
uk
that
would
not
work
for
geotargeting,
because
we
would
see
that
as
being
part
of
a
country
code
top
level
domain,
and
we
would
not
let
you
set
the
uk
geo
targeting
for
that
subdirectory,
but
for
atria
flang.
A
If
you
just
have
the
same
content
on
different
pages
and
you
don't
care
about
geo
targeting,
then
that's
perfectly
fine
in
general,
with
hreflang,
I
would
use
ahreflang
when
you're
seeing
issues
with
the
wrong
country
version
being
shown
in
the
search
results.
A
really
common
use
case
is,
if
you
have
an
international
brand,
where
someone
searches
for
a
brand
name
and
just
from
the
brand
name
alone.
A
Therefore,
we
should
show
that
user
that
content,
so
that's
something
kind
of
to
keep
in
mind
ahead
of
time
when
you're
planning
the
implementations
there
with
ahreflang
it's
very
easy
to
set
up
very
complex
implementations
and
a
lot
of
times
you
don't
need
to
have
complex,
hreflang
implementations.
You
might
just
need
it
on
a
handful
of
pages
across
your
website.
A
When
determining
search,
ranking
or
where
to
position
websites
apart
from
organic
traffic,
does
google
consider
traffic
from
other
sources
like
youtube
or
facebook
or
pinterest?
So
if
a
user
enters
a
page
via
social
media
platform,
finds
the
information
useful
and
relevant,
does
it
have
any
effect
on
search
ratings?
A
No,
at
least
as
far
as
I
know,
none
of
that
applies.
It's
not
the
case
that
we
would
track
that
for
search.
It's
not
the
case
that
we
would
use
that
for
any
kind
of
search
ranking.
A
A
A
I
I
don't
think
client-side
rendering
would
be
associated
with
this,
because
we
would
still
be
able
to
crawl
those
pages
regardless
and
client-side,
rendering
so
kind
of
like
if
you
have
a
javascript
based
website,
and
we
have
to
do
javascript
to
pick
up
the
content,
that's
something
that
usually
is
is
less
problematic.
With
regards
to
indexing,
we
can
do
that
fairly
easily.
A
A
So
that's
something
where
it's
less
a
matter
of
something
technical,
that
you
need
to
change
on
your
website
and
but
more
a
matter
of
making
it
clear
to
us
or
to
the
search
engines
in
general
that
actually
all
of
this
content
is
very
important
and
useful
to
have
insects,
so
that's
kind
of
the
direction
I
I
would
head
there
and
focus
a
little
bit
more
on
kind
of
quality,
rather
than
just
purely
quantity.
A
In
general,
it's
extremely
common
for
websites
to
be
partially
indexed,
that's
kind
of
is
essentially
that's
normal
and
the
indexing
rate
of
any
website
will
fluctuate
over
time,
so
that
kind
of
that
number
of
discovered,
but
currently
not
indexed.
That
number
will
always
fluctuate.
I
think,
regardless
of
the
type
of
website
that
you
have,
we
had
m
dot
urls
for
mobile
site,
which
were
used
as
alternate
versions
for
the
desktop
version.
We
now
have
just
the
desktop
version,
so
www
and
the
m.urls
are
redirected.
A
Should
we
use
the
change
of
address
tool
in
search
console?
Will
it
change
anything
with
seo
or
crawl
budget?
You
don't
need
to
use
the
change
of
address
tool.
That's
something
that
we
would
just
pick
up
the
versions
automatically.
So,
if
you're
redirecting,
then
we
will
pick
that
up.
There's
no
need
to
use
a
change
of
address
tool.
The
change
of
address
tool
is
more
if
you're,
actually
moving
between
different
websites,
in
this
case
you're,
essentially
going
from
mdot
to
www
and
that's
kind
of
within
the
same
website.
A
So
there's
nothing
special
that
we
need
to
do
there
with
regards
to
crawl
budget
or
seo.
This
has
no
effect,
so
we
what
will
happen
there
over
time
is.
We
will
primarily
crawl
the
www
version
of
the
urls.
We
will
occasionally
look
at
the
mdot
versions
because
we
might
still
find
links
to
those
pages
or
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
missing
anything
but
for
the
most
part,
we'll
concentrate
on
the
www
version
and
the
from
a
crawling
point
of
view
that
shouldn't
be
any
change
overall.
A
So
there
is
probably
no
benefit
at
all
and
probably
also
no
harm
there.
In
general,
we
recommend
using
structured
data
for
elements
that
you
want
to
have
visible
in
the
search
results
and
the
ones
that
we
have
visible
are
based
on
the
properties
that
we
have
documented.
A
A
It's
fairly
rare
that
you
would
be
able
to
provide
some
structured
data
on
a
page
which
gives
us
unique
information
that
we
don't
see
from
the
page
itself.
That
helps
us
to
understand
that
page
better
and
I
think
in
particular
the
amp
article
markup.
That's
not
something
that
tells
us
something
different
about
the
page.
It's
just
a
different
way
of
kind
of
providing
metadata
for
the
page
in
general.
A
The
mobile
friendly
test
is
showing
our
page
is
mobile
friendly.
But
when
I
generate
the
report
through
lighthouse
in
chrome
inspection,
it's
showing
me
some
issues
like
tap
targets
are
not
sized
properly.
Can
that
influence
our
rankings?
So
if
the
mobile
friendly
test
is
saying,
things
are
okay.
If
the
search
console
mobile
friendliness
report
is
saying,
things
are
okay,
then
you
should
be
all
set.
A
The
tricky
part
with
mobile
friendliness
is
there's
no
objective
measure
to
say
this
is
mobile,
friendly
or
not
in
particular,
like
the
tap
targets
that
you
mentioned,
you
could
argue
with
people
that
there's
a
certain
size
tap
target
that
needs
to
be
there
by
minimum,
but
that's
not
something
that
necessarily
will
be
the
case
across
all
different
sites
or
all
different
devices
or
all
different
people,
so
that
exact
size.
That
kind
of
is
valid
for
a
large
enough
cap
target,
that's
something
that
could
vary
across
the
different
testing
tools.
A
So
if
you
purely
care
about
how
google
search
sees
your
site
for
mobile
friendliness,
then
I
would
use
those
tools
if
you
kind
of
want
to
get
a
better
view
of
how
other
tools
might
see
your
site
or
give
recommendations
with
regards
to
mobile
friendliness,
then
I
would
definitely
take
those
other
tools
into
account
as
well.
A
G
A
G
A
It's
it's
hard
to
say
when,
when
you
say,
you've
re-ramped
your
site,
my
my
general
assumption
is:
if
the
mobile-friendly
test
says
it's
okay,
then
I
would
not
worry
about
it.
I
assume
that
those
issues
in
search
console
are
mostly
with
regards
to
kind
of
rendering
your
site
and
because
we
cache
some
of
the
embedded
elements
on
a
page,
also
like
the
javascript
and
css.
A
A
Cool
yeah,
I
think
the
the
only
new
question
that
came
was
with
regards
to
the
update
timing,
which
I
think
we
chatted
about
with
barry
already
in
the
beginning.
What
else
is
on
your
mind?
What
else
can
I
help
with.
H
Oh
okay.
Okay,
john.
I
have
the
question
about
duplicated
content
because
you
reply
to
this
question
that
it
depends
on
situation
and
if
you
are
talking
about
moving
service,
for
example,
if
we
need
to
move
stuff
from
toronto
to
vancouver
or
from
a
to
b-
and
I
found
that
many
pages
on
the
top
10-
they
have
two
pages
separate.
For
example,
if
we
want
to
move
from
toronto
to
vancouver
this
page,
usually.
H
Submit
some
information
that
are
related
to
vancouver,
why
you
need
to
live
there,
better
school,
better
shops
and
something
like
this,
and
if
we
create
two
pages
from
vancouver
to
toronto
and
from
toronto
to
vancouver,
is
it
okay
or
because
we
have
similar
titles?
Google
will
understand
that
these
pages
have
different
content.
A
Yeah,
I
I
think
it's
hard
to
say
comprehensively
there
so
for
for
just
the
situation
where
you
have
two
cities
like
that,
I
don't
see
a
problem,
that's
kind
of
like
you.
You
have
a
handful
of
pages
and
you
kind
of
add
the
alternate
versions
of
those
pages.
I
don't
see
a
problem
if
you
take
all
of
the
cities
in
canada
and
you
say
all
of
the
combinations,
then
that's
essentially
a
giant
network
of
unnecessary
content
on
a
site
that
we
would
probably
see
as
doorway
pages.
H
But
but
users
have
different
intent,
you
know
when
they
are
searching
for
service
to
move
stuff
from
throne
to
to
vancouver-
and
you
know
they
want
to
know
about
vancouver
and
when
I
check
out
the
top
10
results.
I
see
that
they
submit
this
information.
It's
not
only
about
some
wikipedia
page
about
vancouver.
H
A
I
I
would
just
create
one
page,
especially
if
you're
talking
about
a
large
amount
of
pages,
then
that's
something
where
I
I
would
try
to
limit
it
on
on
the
number
of
pages.
I
think
it's,
it's
sometimes
misleading.
When
you
look
at
the
search
results
and
you
see.
Oh
other
people
are
creating
this
kind
of
thin
content
automatic
content
in
different
variations.
A
A
So
especially
in
competition
in
with
with
other
websites
having
fewer
pages
that
are
just
significantly
stronger
makes
those
a
lot
more
valuable,
and
it's
also
something
where
you
need
to
watch
out
for
kind
of
like
misleading
yourself
with
regards
to
the
user
intent
so
kind
of
the
question
that
you
had
there
like
well,
users
might
want
to
find
out
more
about
the
city.
I
I
really
doubt
that
someone
who
is
looking
for
transport
services
from
one
city
to
the
other,
wants
to
have
background
information
about
neighborhoods
in
a
city
or
something
like
that.
A
That's
something
where
it's
very
easy
to
get
this
kind
of
information
and
just
put
it
on
a
web
page
because
you
can
it's
like
there
are
apis
and
the
data
is
there.
You
can
rewrite
it
automatically,
but
I
I
don't
think
it
provides
value
and
more
and
more
our
systems
are
such
that
we
understand
when
pages
are
being
compiled
automatically,
and
then
we
will
say.
Oh
maybe
the
whole
website
is
just
automatic
content.
We
should
demote
the
whole
website,
so
that's
kind
of
the
the
long-term
view.
H
Okay,
I
understand,
can
I
ask
in
more
details,
for
example,
when
people
are
searching
moving
from
toronto
to
vancouver,
they
are
living
in
toronto.
They
know
about
the
city
and
if
I
submit
a
lot
of
information
about
vancouver,
if
someone
wanna
move
from
vancouver
to
toronto,
they
will
read
information,
they
don't
need
it.
You
know
they
don't
need
to
know
more
about
vancouver,
they
want
to
know
about
toronto,
and
you
know
at
that
point
we
can
confuse
some
people
to
submit
information.
They
don't
need
to
allow.
A
Do
you
need
background
information
on
what
the
weather
is
like
there,
you're
you're,
looking
for
a
transport
company
you're,
not
looking
for
kind
of
like
city
information,
whereas
if
you're
looking
for
city
information,
then
you
explicitly
look
for
city
information,
you
don't
kind
of
say!
Well,
oh
look
on
this
transport
company
page
there's
now
a
weather
report
from
the
other
city.
How
useful
like
that's?
That's
something
where
it's
very
easy
to
provide
this
kind
of
information,
but
I
don't
think
it's
something
that
search
engines
would
say.
A
I
Dave,
I
think
you
had
a
question.
Oh
yeah,
just
a.
I
was
quite
interested
to
say
saying
that
the
co-web
vitals
will
account
for
no
index
pages
and
things
box
with
robots
texts
and
stuff.
It's
quite
interesting
because,
obviously
in
search
console,
these
are
aggregated.
You
get
a
group
of
pages.
I
How
do
you
understand
that
this
is
a
group?
If
these
are
no
index,
then
you've
not
got
the
context
and
stuff
or
is
it
just
based
on
url
path?
Or
you
know-
and
I
know
it's
not
even
a
ranking
factor
yet
so
in
the
future.
We
don't
really
know
exactly
how
it's
going
to
apply,
but
that's
quite
worrying
if
you've
got
something
in
the
members
area,
some
kind
of
tool
that
takes
a
while
you've
got
bad
vitals,
but
it's
not
really
bad,
because
it's
expected
it's
what
it
is.
A
Know
I
mean
my
my
general
feeling:
is
there
that
that's
something
that's
also
part
of
your
website?
So
if
you
like,
you
use
some
extra
functionality
and
that's
no
index,
then
kind
of
like
people
see
that
as
a
part
of
your
website
and
say
well,
this
website
is
slow
or
this
website
is
fast
kind
of
thing.
I
I
don't
know
how
search
console
reports
on
that,
particularly,
I
think
within
the
chrome
user
experience
report,
data
in
the
the
chrome
developer
site.
A
A
Of
the
the
tricky
parts
is
also
it's
it's
very
hard
for
us
to
understand
when
a
page
is
something
that
is
not
meant
to
be
indexed
because,
like
all
of
the
canonical
decisions
and
and
all
of
that,
it's
like
just
looking
at
an
individual
page
on
its
own-
it's
sometimes
not
absolutely
clear.
A
J
John,
I
had
one
follow
up
on
that
on
that
it
is
actually
very
interesting.
I
was
also
thinking
the
same
so
from
su
side
how
seo
teams
should
be
worried
about
it,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
pages
that
are
no
index
a
lot
of
pages,
especially
in
travel
websites.
There
are
so
many
search
pages
right
on
that
case,
then
how
to
ensure
that
pages
are
not
at
least
decreasing
the
mobile
ranking.
A
Maybe
maybe
I
I
don't
know
what
what
the
information
out
there
is
on
the
grouping
at
the
moment.
So
it's
it's
really
hard
for
me
to
say
exactly
like
what
you
need
to
watch
out
for
or
what
you
can
kind
of
ignore
in
in
general
when
it
comes
to
grouping
across
websites.
When
we
try
to
do
grouping,
we
try
to
do
that.
A
So
if
you're
specifically
worried
about
search
pages,
for
example,
then
putting
those
in
in
a
folder
with
slash
search
makes
it
a
little
bit
easier
for
us
to
understand.
All
of
these
search
pages
belong
together.
All
of
these
product
pages
belong
together
and
all
of
these
blog
posts
belong
together.
A
A
A
You
you
see
something
similar
like
it's
is
totally
unrelated
to
this,
but
more
related
to
grouping
when
it
comes
to
adult
content,
where,
if
we
can
clearly
understand
the
adult
content
belongs
to
this
part
of
our
website,
then
we
can
use
safe,
search
and
say
well.
The
subdirectory
or
the
subdomain
must
be
filtered
by
safe
search,
whereas
if
we
can't
tell
that
that
belongs
in
just
one
part
of
the
site,
then
we
might
say
well.
The
whole
website
needs
to
be
filtered
with
regards
to
safe
search.
A
A
All
right,
I
think,
we're
kind
of
at
time.
Maybe
if
there's
one
last
question
from
anyone
happy
to
take
that
otherwise
we'll
call
it
a
week.
Oh,
can
I
ask
about.
H
H
A
I
mean
I
can't
suggest
that
you
should
use
black
hat
techniques.
So
from
that
point
of
view,
I
I
can
really
only
point
at
our
guidelines
with
regards
to
what
we
do
recommend.
So
I
I
understand
that
some
people
might
say:
oh
well,
it's
like
everyone
else
in
my
niche
is
doing
it
the
wrong
way.
A
Therefore,
I
also
need
to
do
it
that
way-
and
I
I
don't
know
like
it
might
be-
that
they're
individuals
special
niches
where,
where
our
systems
just
aren't
picking
up
the
the
kind
of
the
abusive
or
problematic
techniques
well
enough,
but
I
mean
from
from
my
point
of
view,
if
you
want
to
look
at
the
long
long
run
and
not
just
focus
on
something
that
might
work
for
a
couple
of
weeks
or
a
couple
of
months,
then
I
would
tend
to
focus
more
on
that.
A
What
we
have
documented,
but
I
mean,
like
everyone-
tries
out
different
things
and
sometimes
kind
of
the
best
advice
doesn't
work
for
you.
So
like
I
I
don't
know,
I
can't
hold
physically
hold
you
back
from
doing
kind
of.
H
It's
not
my
opinion.
You
know
I
I
just
wear
thoughts
that
you
can
find
on
reddit
or
many
forums
where
people
share
these
thoughts,
that
we
should
use
blackhead
techniques
for
adult
niches,
because
you
can't
get
results
with
whitehead.
I
I
just
want
to
know
your
possible.
A
K
So
I
have
a
situation
where
I've
seen
amp
articles
being
served
on
desktop,
even
though
we
have
the
proper
canonical
setup
and
we
don't
have
self-referring
amp
canonicals
is
there
something
that
we
should
worry
about?
There.
A
A
But
if
you
see
that
regularly,
especially
for
the
same
urls
for
the
long
run,
then
that
feels
like
something
where
either
we
can't
understand
that
connection
properly
or
there's
something
going
wrong
on
our
side.
A
So
what
what
I
might
do
there
is
maybe
post
in
the
search,
help
forum
or
the
webmaster
help
forum
and
include
some
of
the
details
that
you
have
there,
especially
if
it's
something
that
you
see
happening
regularly
and
it's
always
the
same
urls.
Then
that's
something
where
the
folks
there
can
take
a
look
with
their
tools
and
kind
of
their
understanding
of
how
things
work
and
otherwise
escalate
that
to
googlers.
If
needed.
A
Okay,
thank
you
all
right.
So,
let's
take
a
break
here.
It's
been
great
having
you
all
here,
I'm
I'm
glad
this
time
kind
of
worked
out.
If
you
I,
I
guess,
I'll,
set
these
up
a
little
bit
more
regularly
and
on
fridays
as
well
to
try
to
cover
that
u.s
time
zone
because
it
feels
like
during
the
week
when
I
usually
have
these
planned
on
tuesdays.
There's
like
always
so
much
other
things
happening,
trying
to
to
get
my
time
so
maybe
on
friday
it
will
be
a
little
bit
easier.