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Description
Internet Society Board of Trustees Meeting 153
1 August 2020
B
Okay,
hello,
so
welcome
to
the
second
day
of
the
153rd
meeting
of
the
international
societies
board,
and
today
we
have
a
pretty
packed
agenda.
We
started
an
hour
ago
in
executive
session
and
now
we
are
resuming
in
open
to
observer
session
and
now
we're
going
to
have
a
half
an
hour
slot
where
we
continued.
The
president's
ceo
report
from
yesterday.
I
think
rinaldi
is
going
to
be
driving
that.
B
C
A
D
D
Okay,
great
okay,
so
it
is
a
pleasure
to
be
here
with
all
of
you
and
also
a
pleasure
for
me
to
meet
the
new
board
members.
Virtually
some
of
you
are
known
to
me.
Some
of
you
are
not
known
to
me
and
I
look
forward
to
meet
you
face
to
face
one
day.
If
the
pandemic
goes
away,
I'm
here
to
give
you
an
update
on
the
process
for
developing
the
internet,
society's
action
plan
and
budget
for
the
year
2021.
D
D
This
level
of
planning
didn't
exist
before
in
isoc,
and
the
process
successfully
produced
the
2020
action
plan,
which
is
currently
being
implemented
with
the
eight
projects
at
its
core.
Since
last
year,
there
has
been
some
improvements
based
on
learning
from
doing
also,
adjustments
needed
to
be
made
due
to
the
special
circumstances
brought
about
by
covet
19..
D
Some
of
the
things
that
were
planned
for
projects
either
could
not
be
implemented
as
envisioned
and
projects
needed
to
pivot
quite
quickly
and
time
was
needed
to
figure
out
what
could
be
done
and
what
couldn't
be
done,
and
also
we
realized
that
it
would
take
longer
for
the
projects
to
produce
results
because
of
the
special
circumstances
this
year.
So
here
are
some
of
the
key
differences
in
this
year's
process
compared
to
the
one
that
I
presented
to
the
board.
D
Last
year,
we
started
the
planning
process
a
little
later
this
year,
specifically
at
the
beginning
of
the
second
quarter,
instead
of
the
first
quarter.
This
gives
project
teams
time
to
wrap
up
their
projects
from
last
year
and
also
derive
lessons
learned,
which
is
something
that
we
value
in
the
organization
for
this
year.
We
do
not
have
a
staff
project
proposals
face
in
the
planning
process.
The
senior
executive
team
had
decided
to
maintain
the
eight
projects
that
we
currently
have
and
to
do
the
projects
throughout
2021
to
give
them
time
to
show
results.
D
D
E
No
really,
this
is
great.
I
think
I
was
one
of
the
ones
who
provided
feedback
asking
it
to
be
kept
in
the
loop,
and
I
think
that
the
reports
in
them
in
the
book
I
haven't,
attempted
to
dive
all
the
way
into
it.
But
it
looks
like
a
really
useful
summary.
I'm
looking
forward
to
diving
into
that
and
then
providing
some
comments.
B
Questions
see
if
there's
more
questions,
so
any
any
questions
at
this
point
from
renalia
I
I
was
mentioning
in
the
chat
room,
not
this
one
on
the
other
that
that
this
consultation
we
started
doing
it
last
year
and
the
whole
process
and
andrea
and
rinalia
have
been
driving
this,
and,
in
my
opinion
this
has
been
a
great
improvement.
It's
it's
a
really
good
way
to
basically
build
bottom
up.
The
action
plan
understand
what
are
the
important
things
not
only
in
in
our
opinion,
but
also
in
the
opinion
of
staff,
community
and
etc.
D
B
F
George,
you
are
muted,
yes,
thank
you.
I
think
so
this
all
sounds
very
good
and,
and
I'm
wondering
how
the
community
consultation
is
going
to
is
going
to
be
done.
I
note
andrew's
comment
in
the
in
the
chat
in
the
rather
whatever
it's
called
about
people
agree
in
fact
we're
consulting,
but
they
think
we're
not
anyway.
F
D
So
I
think,
george,
that
comment
is
consistent
with
the
comment
that
you
made
yesterday
in
relation
to
what's
happening
with
the
community
in
relation
to
pir.
Do
we
know
what's
going
on?
Have
we
talked
to
them
about
it
and
what
can
we
do
to
improve
the
situation
moving
forward?
So
I
take
that
input
to
heart
and
I
think
we
will
continue
to
improve
on
it,
and
we
can
do
that,
certainly
with
an
integrated
approach
between
community
engagement
and
communications.
Moving
forward.
B
In
my
humble
opinion
we
are
doing,
I
mean
everything
they
could
ask
for,
because
it's
it's
really.
I
mean
this
process
is
very
actually
bottom-up.
We
are
reaching
out
to
the
whole
community.
So
in
that
sense
I
I
think
this
is
an
important
bit
of
information,
because
I
agree
with
george,
if
there's
a
perception
somewhere,
that
we
are
not
doing
something
that
we
are.
C
So
I
I
think
that
there
is
something
that
it
would
be
helpful
in
your
conversations
with
colleagues
in
the
community
to
try
to
understand,
because
I
simply
don't
we,
the
largest
response
we
ever
got
in
some
of
these
things
in
some
of
these
consultations
was
like
30
response
rate.
This
is
this
is
supposed
to
be
our
community.
These
are
people
who
signed
up
for
this
right.
C
This
isn't
like
a
a
random
marketing
survey,
where
a
30
response
rate
would
be
great
30
response
rate
from
people
who've
actually
joined.
Your
organization
is
terrible
and
that's
a
sign
that
we
have
a
problem,
and
I
don't
know
what
to
do
about
it
because
the
complaint
is,
you
know,
you
never
ask
our
opinion,
but
when
we
ask
people's
opinion
and
we're
genuinely
trying
to
plumb
out
what
it
is
that
people
are
concerned
about,
we
can't
get
them
to
reply.
C
The
latest
complaint
that
I've
heard-
and
I
have
heard
this
from
some
people-
is
that
we're
consulting
too
much,
which
is
a
weird
thing
to
hear
at
the
same
time
as
you're
not
consulting
with
us,
and
so
I
don't
I,
I
literally
don't
know
what
to
do
about
this.
I
mean
it
is
very,
very
difficult
to
be
put
in
the
position
that
you're
asking
us
too
much.
C
What
we
think
about
the
things
and
you
never
ask
us
anything
like
you
know,
a
sort
of
different
emotional
situation
than
than
you
know,
based
on
sort
of
reality.
Now
you
know
some
years
ago
I
got
divorced,
and
so
I
have
some
experience
with
those
sorts
of
dynamics,
but
it's
not
that's
not
a
healthy
situation,
and-
and
I
just
do
not
know
what
to
do
about
that,
because
you
know
I
think
we
have-
and
I
think
rinalia
and
her
team
can
take
a
lot
of
credit
for
this.
C
C
C
A
very
strange
disconnect
between
you
know
just
the
objective
conditions
and
what
people
are
saying,
and
that
suggests
to
me
that
it's
not
based
on
on
on
something
that
I
can
nail
down
it's
based
instead
on
something
and-
and
the
last
thing
I
will
say,
is
that
sometimes
when
I
say
but
but
we're
doing
this,
the
response
is
yeah
but
five
years
ago.
Something-
and
you
know,
okay,
I
I
grant
you
that
maybe
something
happened
five
years
ago-
I
you
know,
wasn't
there
and
we've
had
a
very
big
change
in
the
organization.
C
I
think
now
all
of
the
trustees
have
changed,
and
so
it
it's
it.
It
becomes
very
difficult
to
know
how
to
respond
to
that,
and
I
wonder
if
some
of
this
is
is
just
that.
There's
a
base
level
of
of
sort
of
complaining
that
is,
is
the
nature
of
the
internet
and
that
we
have
to
accept
that
some
people
are
not
going
to
be
satisfied.
No
matter
what
and-
and
you
know
the
the
nature
of
our
communications
media
permit
those
voices
to
be
extremely
loud.
G
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
add
on
a
little
bit
to
what
andrew
says
I
mean
andrew
says.
You
know
he
said
it
multiple
times
just
now,
but
he
doesn't
understand
where
this
comes
from.
I
think
I
understand
where
it
comes
from,
which
is
that,
whenever
you're
disappointed
with
an
organization
that
you
have
some
affiliation
with
it's
a
natural
human
tendency
to
say
well,
if
I
don't
know-
or
if
I'm
unhappy
with
the
thing-
that's
happened,
it
must
be
that
they've
done
something
wrong
and
I
just
have
to
figure
out
what
that
is.
G
And
then
I
will
name
the
thing
that
they
have
done
wrong.
It's
it's
an
easy
narrative
to
create
the
difficulty
that
I
think
that
staff
responding
or
that
any
of
us
has
in
responding
is
that
we
want
to
say
if
what's
the
evidence
that
this
happened
or
sometimes
it's
what
the
evidence.
What
is
the
evidence
that
this
thing
didn't
happen
where
this
thing
is
consultation
and
nobody
likes
that
conversation,
because
then
it
feels
like
they're
being
challenged
and
that's
not
what
they
want.
G
G
G
E
E
I
think
another
way
to
read
this
signal
is
in
light
of
the
overarching
effort
here
to
improve
the
quality
of
the
communications
and
the
quality
of
connection
with
our
community
here
right,
because
there's
not
a
simple,
more
or
less
access
at
play
here,
the
same
amount
of
communication
can
feel
like
too
much
or
feel
like
too
little.
If
it's
you
know
not
directed
at
the
questions
you
care
about
right.
So
if
I
get,
if
I
get
a
question
about
something,
I
don't
care
about,
that
feels
like
the
wrong
consultation,
too
little
compensation.
E
In
fact,
it
repeatedly
asked
about
things
I
don't
care
about
that
feels
like
way
too
much
right,
so
I
think
there's
the
answer
to.
I
think
both
of
these
things
lies
in
the
stuff
we
started
talking
about
yesterday
in
terms
of
the
overall
plan
in
terms
of
deepening
our
connections
with
with
all
of
our
stakeholders.
B
H
H
Why
is
this
happening
and
maybe
the
reason
could
be
connected
to
the
individuals,
the
group,
the
subset,
because
I
don't
think
this
is
uniform
throughout
the
whole
community,
so
maybe
getting
to
the
answer
would
be
to
look
into
the
group
of
people
who
are
doing
this
and
I
have
my
own
suspicions
that
they
may
be
having
icann
as
a
baseline,
so
anything
that
we
do
is
always
automatically
connected
or
compared
to
icann.
So
once
again
we
go
back
and
repeat
the
same
thing.
H
B
A
B
B
We're
recording
now,
okay,
thank
you
kevin,
so
we
are
back
from
our
executive
session
on
our
break
and
now
we
are
exactly
at
point
number
20
on
the
agenda
and
now
we're
going
to
be
passing
a
few
resolutions.
As
usual,
we
appoint
people,
we
form
the
committees
and
we
appoint
people
to
them
during
the
agm.
B
B
B
B
We
have
them
in
alphabetical
orders,
so
we
will
start
with
the
audit
committee
and-
and
you
have
also
the
proposal
for
the
for
the
membership
in
these
committees
on
your-
you
know
book,
so
you
can
get
there.
So
the
proposal
is
to
have
heather
share
the
audit
committee
with
maimuna
and
mike
as
members
any
comments
on
that.
B
A
B
B
The
next
one
is
to
appoint
the
chair
of
members
of
the
ceo
succession
planning
committee,
and
the
proposal
is
that
mike
is
the
chair
with
gonzalo,
laura
pepper
and
richard
as
the
members.
I'm
I'm
not
gonna,
I'm
not
gonna
be
reading
the
ex-official
members
in
the
committees,
because
then
it
gets
a
bit
complicated.
B
B
B
B
B
Okay,
let
me
check
here
the
next
one
is
the
elections
committee
and
in
the
elections
committee
we
we
appoint
only
the
chair
of
the
community
at
the
agm,
but
in
any
case
we
also
gather
volunteers.
So
the
chair
of
the
proposal
is
to
to
have
maimuna,
share
the
elections
committee
and
and
that's
the
resolution
we
will
pass
and
then
we
will
inform
imuna
that
within
the
board,
actually
laura
is
also
interested
in
serving
so
when
we
put
together
the
committee
maimuna.
B
B
B
The
next
committee
is
the
executive
committee,
so
the
executive
committee,
as
as
you
all
know,
we
changed
changed
it
a
few
years
ago,
so
we
don't
effectively
use
it.
It's
only
there
in
case
at
some
point.
We
need
to
make
a
speedy
decision
which
we
haven't
done
in
the
last.
You
know
two
three
years
since
we
made
the
change,
but
anyway,
the
membership
of
the
executive
committee
is
basically
the
president,
the
treasurer,
the
secretary,
the
secretary
and
the
chair
of
the
board.
So
any
comments
on
that.
B
Okay,
so
who
moves
ted
moves
while
8
seconds?
Yes
votes?
Please
raise
your
hand,
no
votes,
abstentions.
Okay,
so
the
resolution
passes
unanimously
as
well,
and
now
we
go
with
the
finance
committee
finance
committee.
The
proposal
is
to
have
richard
as
the
treasurer.
The
treasurer
is
ex
official,
the
director
of
this
committee
and
to
have,
as
members
george,
gonzalo,
laura
olga
pepper
and
ted.
B
E
B
B
Okay.
Okay,
now
we
are
going
with
the
numcom.
The
nominations
committee
and
the
nominations
committee
is
the
same
as
the
with
the
elections
committee.
We
only
appoint
the
the
chair
at
this
point
and
the
proposal
is
to
have
the
nominations
committee
george
as
the
chair
and
and
that's
the
form
of
a
solution
we
will
pass
today,
but
then
we
will
inform
george
as
well
that
mike
olga
richard
and
walid.
They
have
also
volunteered
to
be
in
the
nomicon.
B
B
B
B
I
see,
heather
moves
on
my
moon.
A
second
yes
votes.
Please
raise
your
hand,
no
votes,
abstentions.
The
resolution
pass
is
also
unanimously
excellent.
So
so
that
was
all
the
the
committees
we
needed
to
appoint
today.
We
will
also
be
appointing
people
to
the
foundation
program
committee,
but
that
will
be
done
in
the
in
the
foundation
meeting
we
will
have
after
this.
So
these
are
all
the
committees
of
the
isoc
board.
Actually
thanks.
So
we
move
on
to
the
next
point
on
the
agenda,
which
is
point
number
22.
B
which
basically,
we
started
doing
this,
like
I
don't
know
two
years
ago
or
something
like
that.
We
just
passed
a
resolution
with
the
with
the
dates
and
locations
for
our
board
meetings
during
the
year.
We
all
know
that
you
know
there's
a
high
level
of
uncertainty
given
the
pandemic
and
all
that,
but
I
mean
we
will
have
to
play
by
ear
when
we
are
closer
to
the
dates,
but
just
to
be
clear,
this
is
the
dates
for
2021..
B
So
it's
not
a
natural
boar
cycle.
It's
a
natural
year
21.
starting
well,
the
proposal.
I
will
read
it
here,
starting
with
march
2021,
which
would
be
the
q1
meeting
to
meet
in
in
cancun
in
mexico.
So
the
idea
there
is
to
recover
some
of
the
costs
that
we
lost,
because
last
time
we
had
to
cancel
and
we
couldn't
go
there
and
that's
within
the
basically
one
and
a
half
years
or
something
like
that.
We
got
as
the
time
to
return
there.
B
B
Then
the
retreat
would
be
11th
and
12th
of
september
in
washington
dc
and
that
will
give
a
new
trustee
well
new
trustees,
yeah,
because
there
will
be
the
you
guys,
new
trustees
and
the
new
trustees
in
2021
the
opportunity
to
go
to
the
iso
coffees
and
meet.
You
know,
staff
there,
because
that's
actually
our
bigger
office.
Some
of
us
will
be
already
off
the
board
at
that
point,
but
I
think
you
know
it
will
be
very
good
to
do
that.
B
So
the
proposal
is
to
have
the
retreat
there
and
then
the
q4
meeting
would
be
in
november
in
madrid,
spain,
and
that
would
be
collocated
with
the
itf.
The
idea
was
to
collocate
this
agm
with
the
itfe
madrid.
It
was
moved
to
november
2021,
so
the
idea
is
to
collocate
it
there.
That's
the
proposal,
any
any
comments.
B
B
B
Okay
on
the
on
the
room
so
to
talk
about
the
2020
q1
q4
meeting,
so
the
the
2020
q4
meeting,
as
you
guys
know,
it's
it's
supposed
to
be
collocated
with
the
itf
in
in
bangkok,
in
thailand,
and
so
far
we
haven't
canceled
that
the
itf
hasn't
made
a
decision
either.
As
I
said,
I
mean
it's,
it's
uncertain
my
personal
opinion.
Here,
it's
completely
irrelevant.
We
will
see
what
happens
in
in
a
few
months.
Maybe
we
will
go.
Maybe
we
won't
who
knows,
but
they.
I
B
Okay,
excellent,
so
that's
the
current
plan
excellent,
so
they
will
make
a
plan
I
mean
and
to
be
clear,
it's
not
that
we
have
to
make
exactly
the
same
decision
as
the
itf.
But
but
you
know
it's
a
good
data
point
to
see
if
they
are
going
or
not,
and
our
our
plan
was
to
meet
there
november,
20,
21st
and
22nd,
which,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
is
after
the
ietf
meeting
and
if
we
don't
go
there.
The
the
meeting
the
q4
meeting
will
be
similar
to
this
one
and
just
to
remind
everyone.
B
Okay,
good!
Actually,
as
you
can
imagine,
even
the
the
mexico
meeting
in
march.
It's
I
mean
we
don't
know
what
will
happen
but
anyway,
this
is
kind
of
let's
pencil
this
in
into
our
calendars
and
then
we
will,
as
I
said,
play
by
ear.
So
this
brings
us
to
the
end
of
the
official
agenda.
So,
let's
move
into
aob
any
other
business
from
anyone.
J
Thank
you
gonzalo.
I
just
sent
you
a
mic,
an
email
just
to
start
a
very
informal
exchange
of
ideas.
I
know
you're
in
vacation,
but
just
didn't
want
to
forget
about
it
and
because
andrew
asked
some
interesting
questions
about
how
to
organize
and
work
with
staff.
In
relation
with
the
the
new
working
group,
we
are
starting
to.