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Internet Society Board of Trustees Meeting 140
15 June 2018, 13:00-14:00 UTC
Video Conference
B
Okay,
so
welcome
to
the
meeting
of
the
Board
of
Trustees
of
the
internet
society.
This
is
meeting
number
140
and
we
have
posted
the
agenda
that
I
guess
Kevin
will
post
it
now
into
zoom.
Yes,
okay,
perfect!
So
that's
our
our
agenda!
First
of
all,
we
received
regret
from
a
few
trustees,
but
nevertheless
we
have
you
know
quorum.
So
we
have
a
seven
vote.
Interest
is
if
I
can
be
correctly
and
any
declaration
of
conflict,
taking
into
account
the
agenda
that
we
should
note.
I,
don't
see
all
the
video.
B
B
So,
as
you
know,
it's
our
tradition
on
and
I
think
also
it's
in
the
bylaws
that
we
have
a
meeting
before
before
the
AGM,
so
that
we
can
actually
know
approve
the
reports
from
from
the
different
committees
to
basically
know
convey
the
action
points
to
the
next
board
and
basically
know
agree
on
on
a
few
or
make
a
few
formal
decisions
so
that
you
know
they
are
made
before
we
get
to
the
AGM,
which
in
this
case
is
in
two
weeks
in
in
Panama.
So
let's
get
started
with
the
agenda.
B
C
These
are
seven
resolutions
that
we've
passed
since
last
fall
and
due
to
clerical
sloppiness
by
me,
several
of
them
should
have
been,
should
have
been
included
in
the
minutes
earlier.
But
it's
just
a
clerical
thing
and
they
were
there.
They've
been
valid
since
they've,
since
they
were
passed.
We
just
hadn't
we
haven't
published
from
yet
and
I'm,
not
Kevin
and
I
now
have
a
spreadsheet.
So
we
should.
We
should
be
able
to
fix
this
problem.
Okay,
excellent.
B
B
So
moving
along
to
point
number
three
in
the
agenda,
which
is
the
actionable
items
that
we
want
to
transfer
from
this
board
to
which
is,
you
know
the
2017
2018
to
the
next
board,
which
will
be
appointed
at
the
IGM
AGM
in
two
weeks
and
is
that
2018
2019
board
so
Cathy?
You
want
to
introduce
the
resolution.
D
D
B
Excellent
Thank,
You,
Kathy
yeah
Kevin
is
showing
the
never
solution
and
the
if
you
scroll
up
a
bit
yeah
there,
that's
the
resolution
that
we
are
passing
and
the
summary
of
the
agreed
action
items
for
for
the
next
board.
Okay,
so
the
resolution
haven't
been
introduced,
I
need
someone
to
to
move.
The
resolution
has
be
fair
moves
on
hurry
seconds,
so
we're
gonna
do
this
by
raising
hands
yeah
thanks
Kevin
for
moving
into
mosaic
mode,
so
we're
gonna
be
voting.
Yes,
no
and
abstain.
So
you
know
first
years
all
trustees
voting.
B
I'm,
thank
you.
Trustee
is
voting,
no
raise
your
hands.
Okay.
Nobody
and
first
is
abstaining.
Raise
your
hands.
Okay,
so
the
resolution
passes
unanimously.
Thank
you.
Now
we
are
moving
to
the
part
of
the
agenda
where
we
accept
the
different
reports
that
they
have
been
produced.
So
we
have,
you
know
the
Elections
Committee
governance,
the
auditor's
report,
the
audit
committee,
the
Finance
Committee
and
then
the
president
and
CEO
reports.
So
we
will
start
with
the
election
committee
report
Ciro.
E
Kevin,
could
you
project
if
lights
or
text
prepared
by
Hiroshi
okay?
Here
we
are
Election.
Committee
report
can
be
a
rather
short
report,
because
nothing
out
of
water
has
happened
during
the
process.
Everything
was
run
smoothly
and
without
larger
incidents.
I'm,
not
sure
if
you
want
to
hear
all
details
who
was
selected
and
not
selected
or
better
read
it
up.
I
think
everything
is
nicely
captured
in
this
report
and
reading
it
down
is
really
a
waste
of
a
little
bit
of
waste
of
time,
so
I'm
happy
to
just
present
it
as
it
was.
E
There
was
no
challenges,
no
special
things
to
do
it
went
forward.
We
had
no
big
problem.
We
had
no
problems
with
the
election
system,
the
only
point
which
perhaps
should
be
a
little
bit
standing
out.
We
tried
to
have
some
kind
of
discussion
between
candidates
and
the
public,
and
we
didn't
succeed
in
having
let's
say
any
substantial
discussion
on
any
topics.
E
There
were
some
initial
questions
which
were
answered
past
candidate
8
or
which
were
answered
by
early
most
of
the
candidates,
but
there
were
no
additional
remarks,
topics,
discussion
or
so
on,
which
were
really
well
it.
On
the
other
hand,
we
had
no
bad
things
written
into
the
pool
either,
so
it
was
simply
calm
or
completely
silent.
Okay,
that
small
assault
is
a
report.
I
have
not
to
report
much
more.
Thank.
B
You
sweetie,
maybe
maybe
just
to
stress
the
fact
that
the
chapter
selected
Walid
and
the
organization's
elected
Robert
never
just
for
for
completeness
exactly
and
you
and
Sean
we're
reelected
by
the
IDF,
true
yeah,
the
IAB
reappointed
you
both
shown
and
myself
that
yeah
for
completeness,
that's
a
very
good
point.
So
that
means
that
the
the
next
board
we
will
have
a
lease
living
and
pepper
joining.
So
that
will
be
a
change
in
terms
of
both
interest
is
excellent:
Thank
You,
Hans
Peter.
B
F
Some
sometimes
I
sound
like
a
mouse
I
want
to
acknowledge
the
the
Volga
for
the
excellent
work
she
did
on
the
nomination
committee
a
lot
of
hard
work.
We
did
get
a
bit
of
blowback
because
it
ended
up.
We
got
criticism
because
we
didn't
have
a
female
candidate,
but
we
I
think
we
did
more
than
enough
with
with
a
race
with
two
of
the
three
being
candidates
for
PR,
so
I
think
we
did
the
best
we
could
so
I
think
it
was
great
to
get
as
many
people
interested
as
possible.
F
B
Yeah
yeah
I
mean,
like
the
elections,
are,
are
kind
of
you
know
successful
in
the
nomination
process.
It's
successful
and
yeah
this
year
we
had
a
good
nomination
process
with
with
a
lot
of
interest,
so
that
was
that
was
absolutely
a
great
thing.
Thanks
for
bringing
it
up,
Glenn,
okay,
perfect!
So
now
we're
gonna
do
the
same
thing:
Racing
hands!
You
know
you
can
vote,
yes,
no
or
abstain,
so
everyone
in
voting.
Yes,
please
raise
your
hands,
everybody
voting.
No,
please
raise
your
hands.
Everybody
are
staying
in.
B
You
know,
III,
don't
fully
understand
the
symbols
you
guys
are
doing
with
their
fingers,
but
but
you
know,
I
will
count
only
hands
up
or
hands
down
for
your
information.
Moving
on
to
point
number,
five
in
the
agenda,
which
is
the
government's
governance
committee
report
and
again
hans-peter-
will
introduce
it.
So
hospital
authority
is
again
yours,
so.
B
B
Okay,
thank
you
have
to
be
their
hands.
Peter
moves
anyone
seconds,
Harry's
seconds,
I,
guess,
okay,
perfect!
So
the
same
process
as
before
raise
your
hands.
If
you
are
voting,
yes,
please,
okay,
I'm
voting!
No,
please
raise
your
hands
and
abstaining.
Please
raise
your
hands.
Okay.
The
resolution
passes
unanimously.
Thank
you
and
sometimes
Peter
for
for
introducing
both
reports
and
moving
on
to
point
number.
Six
in
the
agenda,
which
is
the
independent
auditors
report,
and
you
know
it's
sort
of
the
Audit
Committee
mr.
John
Levin
is
gonna,
introduce
it
so
John
go
ahead.
Thank
you.
B
C
Pleased
to
say
the
audit
report
is
several
pages
long,
but
it
can
be
summarized
as
saying
everything
is
fine.
The
auditor
the
auditors
said
they
were
happy
with
they're
happy
with
everything
in
it
said
Sandy
and
the
committee
went
over
it
and
we
all
agree
so
I
encourage
I,
encourage
us
to
adopt
it.
Okay,
good
excellent.
B
Thank
you
any
any
quick,
any
questions,
okay,
good!
Then
John.
Do
you
want
to
move
I?
Guess
I.
Do
yes,
okay!
Thank
you,
John,
any
any
one
seconds.
The
motion
they
serious
seconds.
Thank
you
so
again,
the
same
routine.
We're
gonna
do
raise
our
hands,
so
you
know
trustees
voting.
Yes,
please
raise
your
hand,
trustees
voting.
No,
please
raise
your
hands.
Okay
and
trustees.
Voting
up
staying.
Please
raise
your
hands.
Okay,
so
there's
a
resolution
passes
unanimously
excellent.
B
Good
I'm,
Kevin
I'm
thinking
that
you
may
want
to
ping
thought
at
some
point
because
we
may
be
ready
before
15
to
the
hour.
So
just
you
know
logistics,
okay,
the
other
day,
thank
you,
Kevin,
okay,
excellent.
So
that
was
point
number
six
in
the
agenda
and
point
number
seven
in
the
agenda
is
related
to
that
which
is
the
audit
committee
report
and
again
our
audit
committee
is
John,
so
please
John,
could
you
please
introduce
there?
B
C
Know
I
finally
sent
out
the
the
audit
committee
report
Wednesday
afternoon
after
we
had
our
final
meeting.
What
well,
while
waiting
in
line
to
have
lunch:
okay
and
the
yeah
and
the
audit
committee-
that
the
only
thing
is
slightly
interesting
about
the
audit
committee
report
is
that
last
year
we
had
a
plan
to
create
an
internal
risk
management
risk
management
process,
enrichment,
risk
management
committee.
Our
auditors
helped
design
one
with
a
beautiful
color
map
of
sort,
here's
the
dangerous
stuff
and
your
offensive
stuff,
which
we
can
go
over
in
more
detail.
C
If
you
want
we've,
we
all
looked
at
it
with
them
and
with
Sandy,
and
then
we
encouraged
sandy
to
put
together
a
a
charter
for
the
staff
committee,
which
we
then,
which
we
then
approved
so
so
that
is,
that
is
underway.
It
I
guess
up
I'll,
ask
sandy
anything
else.
Anything
else.
You
want
to
say
about
that.
G
C
B
All
sorted
out,
we
got
em
all
excellent,
excellent
glad
to
hear
perfect.
Thank
you
very
much
for
introducing
the
report
then,
and
did
you
want
to
move
so
moved?
Okay,
who
seconds
hans-peter
seconds?
Okay,
so
again
the
same
routine
trustees
voting?
Yes,
please
raise
your
hands
trustees.
Voting!
No!
Please
raise
your
hands
trustees
both
in
abstain.
Please
raise
your
hands
yesterday,
I
didn't
see
you
raising
your
hand,
you
voted
yes,
okay,
so
I
had
missed
it.
Yes,.
H
B
B
I
Right,
hey,
so
you
would
have
saw
this
late
last
night
or
early
this
morning,
just
kind
of
wanted
to
summarize
what
we've
done.
I
listed
the
committee
members,
which
is
myself
as
the
chair,
Richard
Barnes,
Kathy
Browns
ex
officio
non-voting
Gonzalo
ogon
hans-peter.
We
held
a
number
of
meetings
this
year
and
all
the
meetings
we
need
for
a
particular
purpose
to
go
over.
You
know
budgeting
type
things
or
other
things
to
pop
up.
I
I
guess
I
also
wanted
to
let
everybody
know
that
sandy
and
I
do
also
talk
even
more
because
there's
lots
of
stuff
that
pops
up
and
just
so
that
she
keeps
me
aware
so
I'm
not
surprised
and
we're
doing
this
RFP
process
for
the
investment
advisors,
and
so
we
blocked
off
an
entire
week
to
try
to
interview
with
them.
But
it
looks
like
it
might
all
happen
on
one
day,
so
that'll
be
nice
okay.
So
the
basic
summary
of
the
financials,
the
internet
side,
is
we're
in
pretty
good
shape.
I
Basically
2017
we
were
able
to
you
know
fit
within
the
thirty
nine
million
dollar
financial
envelope
that
we
had.
We
had
a
deficit
of
about
eighty
to
that.
Eighty
two
thousand
dollars,
which
kind
of
really
wasn't
a
big
deal,
but
it
was
mostly
based
on
lower
than
anticipated,
I
just
sponsorship
and
registration
revenue,
but
this
is
awesome
by
lower
than
budgeted
spending
of
personnel
and
operating
costs.
But
you
know
in
the
market
in
Europe
they
can't
seem
to
make
any
money
in
investment
market
in
the
u.s.
from
eight
nine
million
dollars.
I
Excuse
me,
then,
I
kind
of
want
to
hit
like
the
big
funds
that
we
take
care
of
the
first
one
is
the
continuity
fund,
which
is
you
know
to
make
sure.
If
it's
a
rainy
day,
we
don't
have
any
money,
what
to
do.
I
Basically,
in
2017
we
gained
11.4%,
which
beat
all
the
strategic
indices
that
we
were
modeled
against.
So
it's
up
to
eighteen
point:
six
million,
as
at
the
end
of
the
year
in
December,
31st
2017,
and
at
the
end
of
this
quarter,
it's
it's
des.
It's
kind
of
flattened
out
by
18.5
million,
and
what
we
do
when
we
talk
with
the
investment
advisors
is
talk
with
them
about.
I
You
know
what,
if
any
changes
we
should
kind
of
make,
and
we
basically
just
decided
to
kind
of
play
a
little
bit
with
in
the
actual
allocation
tables
that
we're
allowed
to
have
so
basically
we're
making
no
changes
and,
as
a
result
of
the
resolution,
to
get
the
to
set
the
amount
that
we
wanted
to
have
in
the
continuity
fund,
which
is
16
million.
We've
decided
to
just
kind
of
leave
it
alone
and
just
let
it
run
okay.
So
the
next
big
fun
is
the
ITF
endowment
fund.
I
There's
really
only
the
only
real
contributions
this
year
were
from
ripe.
They
made
a
multi-year
commitment
to
put
in
about
a
hundred
and
ten
euros,
and
that
came,
but
again
the
fun
has
grown
from
I.
Think
50%
after
fee.
So
what
from
two
point?
One:
seven
to
two
point:
six,
which
is
pretty
good
and
as
of
March
31st,
the
balance
2.6
million;
and
basically
again,
we
reviewed
the
investment
portfolio
and
the
risk.
A
I
I
It's
a
hundred
ten
thousand
euros
gear,
correct,
good,
there's
a
key
in
there.
I
just
missed
it,
okay,
so
the
last
and
fun
one
is
always
a
special
non-recurring
fund.
This
is
the
ten
million
dollars
that
we
got
from
PIR
back
in
like
2014
and
we
keep
kind
of
like
you
know,
talking
about
it
and
spending
it
and
we're.
I
Finally
getting
to
the
point
where
we
are
so
the
ten
million
dollars
they
gave
us
three
point:
three
seven
million
remain
at
the
end
of
December
2017
and
we
got
one
point:
eight,
six
million
now
at
the
end
of
March.
That's
because
we
decided
to
give
the
500k
for
the
dynamic
and
security
stuff
and
also
the
$1,000,000
for
the
AI
asset
to
Dido
transition
got
out
of.
There
came
out
of
that
bucket,
so
eventually
we'll.
Finally,
you
know
drain
that
that
money
down
to
it,
okay,
so
on
to
staff
and
process.
I
I
Okay,
so
for
financial
advice
going
forward,
we
obviously
still
have
this
huge.
You
know
amount
of
money
that
we
get
from
PIR
and-
and
you
know
the
Finance
Committee
I
think
rightly
so-
thinks
that
there
should
be
a
way
to
try
to
look
out
and
find
other
sources
so
that
we
can
kind
of
spread
things
out
with
the
way
we
set
up
the
foundation.
The
hye-suk
foundation
I
think
there's
less
of
that.
Concern
for
that.
I
But
I
still
don't
think
that
we
should
rest
on
our
laurels
because
who
knows
maybe
org
goes
poof
next
week
and
then
we're
in
a
big
big
band
of
trouble.
So
I
think
it's
it's
just
we're
just
doing
our
due
diligence
by
looking
looking
out
for
other
things,
I
think
that
one
of
the
things
was
the
trend
was
revenues
versus
expenses.
You
know
in
the
past
the
board
is,
you
know,
really
concerned
that
the
expenses
were
going
faster
than
revenues.
That's
not
really
true.
I
I
Yeah,
so
the
idea
is
that
the
RFP
has
been
out
and
running,
and
what
we're
doing
is
that
week
is
basically
what
we're
gonna
be
interviewing.
The
final
candidates,
so
sandy
and
I
are
gonna,
sit
in
a
room
and
get
so
by
them.
I
wanted
to
know
how
many
liquid
lunches,
like
it
have
in
this
one-day
period.
I
thought
we
clearly
needed
to
spread
this
out
now,
daddy's
giving
me
the
know.
I
You
know
so
it'll
just
be
one
day
and
we'll
do
it
and
then
we'll
report
back
yeah,
because
the
idea
is
that
we
also
have
an
advisor
with
us
helping
so
cuz
like
if
they
told
me
it's
one,
penny
versus
ten
I,
probably
wouldn't
know
so
the
nice
thinking
about
having
this
independent
person,
who
kind
of
has
a
sense
of
the
fees
we
can
kind
of
get
a
better
feeling
for.
What's
what's
good
and
what's
not
good.
B
An
approved
a
resolution,
excellent
yes,
any
one
seconds,
I
have
Harry
seconds.
Okay,
so
again
the
same
procedure.
You
know,
raise
your
hands
if
you
want
to
vote
yes,.
B
Okay,
raise
your
hand
if
you
want
to
vote,
no
raise
your
hand
if
you
want
to
abstain.
Okay
resolution
passes
unanimously.
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
Sam
for
preparing
the
comprehensive
report
that
was
that
was
useful,
useful
Glen.
Do
you
one
YES
on.
F
G
Happy
to
take
that,
yes,
the
answer
is
yes,
we
have
put
our
money
into
club
ESG
funds
and,
as
we
go
through
the
RFP
process,
that's
one
of
our
focus
as
well
as
we
need
potentially
a
new
investment
manager,
we're
looking
for
those
investment
managers
that
have
experience
in
this
and
not
just
starting
that
process
now.
So,
yes,
absolutely
we.
G
I
I
But
it
was
just
to
be
fully
clear:
not
all
of
them
got
moved
because
some
of
them
there
were
no
ratings
in
the
space,
so
we
just
left
them
alone
and
as
as
the
ratings
get
applied
to
more
and
more
of
them,
that
we,
then
we
start
to
look
at
say.
Okay,
we
are
gonna
pick
those
this.
He
said
that
the
the
new
RFP
process,
they're
gonna,
hear
that
upfront
like
okay.
This
is
an
overarching
thing
that
you
guys
have
to
provide
to
us.
Go
from
late
yeah.
D
And
to
ensure
that
we
tell
them
that
there
are
things
that
we
don't
want,
so
they've
got
to
be
very
careful,
so
so
there's
things
we
want
socially
beneficial
funds
that
are
working
and
they're
things
we
don't
want,
which
is
in
the
mix
of
something
you
know
where
we
are
supporting
something
and
not
in
line
with
our
values.
Now
we
gotta
be
kind
of
clear
about
the
limits
there
and
that's
a
good
discussion
to
have
when
this
okay.
F
B
That's
it.
Thank
you
playing
good
point,
yeah
good
point,
because
these
days
yeah
we
decided
some
time
ago
and
it's
good
to
point
it
out
in
the
in
the
session.
Okay,
any
any
more
questions
for
for
Sean
or
sandy
or
or
regarding
their
financials
excellent.
Thank
you.
So
moving
along
to
point
number,
nine
in
the
agenda,
which
you
know
Cathy,
will
give
us
the
the
CEO
reports.
D
One
getting
ready
for
the
actual
transition
of
the
CEO,
and
secondly,
just
how
this
how
staff
has
been
reacting
over
this
period
as
the
first
matter.
We
have
a
staff
team
together
ahead
by
great
wood,
that's
putting
together
a
briefing
for
the
eventual
new
CEO
that
would
walk
that
person
through
a
lot
of
the
processes
procedures
what's
going
on
and
where
my
experience
when
I
came
in
was
I
got
like
five
years
like
it's
like
it's
overwhelming.
You
know,
there's
such
and
long
lectures
about
what
did
what
the
IOC
was
and
all
this.
D
So
we
decided
to
perhaps
be
a
little
bit
more
progressive
here
and
have
an
online
version,
something
that
has
some
nice
hyperlinks
in
it
so
that
you
could
go.
You
know,
sort
of
hi
and
and
I
think,
because
I
believe
we're
in
quite
good
shape
around
where
much
of
these
materials
are
now
Thank,
You,
hunts,
Peter
and
others
that
we
are
going
to
be
able
to
provide
that
kind
of
navigation
in
this
kind
of
briefing
if
it
comes
out
as
well
as
I
hope
it
well.
D
This
might
be
something
for
the
whole
board
that
you'd
like
to
make
use
of,
and
we
can
think
about
how
that
might
be
used.
So
I
I
have
not
yet
seen
the
first
draft,
although
I
have
seen
a
very
good
outline
and
I
feel
quite
good
that
this
is
under
way
we'll
be
ready
at
the
appropriate
time.
Any
comments
or
thoughts
on
that
yeah.
B
I
mean
we
were
doing
exactly
the
same
this
year
with
you
know,
Kevin's
help
on
on
producing
materials,
for
name
you
chairs
of
the
committees,
because
that
was
an
issue.
We
identified
that
the
choice
of
the
new
committees
they
sometimes
they
didn't,
have
the
necessary
background,
so
we
are
doing
roughly
the
same
there.
So
when
I
mean
we
may
get
inspiration
on
how
to
do
things
from
from
that,
so
that
will
be
even
I
mean
just
to
say
that
I
agree
with
you
that
can
be
useful
for
the
board
as
well.
D
D
D
Of
course,
you
know
the
back
job,
there's
always
of
course,
the
rumor
mill
and
all
of
that,
but
it's
really
been
kept
to
a
minimum,
I
think
and
I
think
you
will
be
happy
when
you
see
the
major
issues
that
you
just
targeted
for
your
new
board
that
are
the
major,
the
major
accomplishments
we
have
to
get
done
by
the
end
of
the
year,
both
in
the
action
plan
issues
in
the
foundation
that
these
things
are
well
along
and
well-developed.
So
you'll
have
further
plans
for
their
presentations
on
that.
D
D
On
that,
we've
got
a
lease
and
a
bill
bell.
You
know
I
hope
all
of
you
will
actually
come
to
a
meeting
there.
So
you
see
what
a
cool
thing
this
is:
we're
calling
this
a
collaborative
sector
rather
than
an
office,
because
it's
smaller
frankly
there's
kind
of
open
space,
but
there's
also
offices
that
can
be
used,
etc.
D
We've
moved
into
that
office
in
two
weeks
time
or
our
next
week,
I
believe
we
actually
do
the
physical
move,
simile
invert
in
Geneva,
we
will
move
out
of
the
current
office
into
one
that
looks
like
we're
about
to
put
an
offer
on.
That's
not
far
away
from
the
original
office
makes
all
the
staff
happy,
but
will
also
be
smaller
and
will
also
be
around
this
kind
of
collaborative
hub
idea.
Both
of
these
together
will
not
increase
our
cost.
In
fact,
the
move
in
Virginia
brings
it
down
a
lot.
D
Geneva
is
another
whole
story.
Sometimes
the
costs
of
doing
business
in
Geneva
is
something
that
one
should
probably
do
some
some
good
analysis
on,
but
for
now
that
is
our
headquarters
and
we're
making
that
move.
So
all
in
all,
I
would
say
that
both
the
work
of
the
internet
society
is
going
on
of
these
and
that
the
internal
kind
of
projects
that
we
committed
to
are
also
on
schedule,
and
we
will
have
a
much
more
full
report
on
that
when
we
get
to
Panama
yeah.
The
other
big
issue
that.
D
B
Excellent,
yes
sounds
great
Riga
yeah.
Regarding
your
comment
about
having
Trustees
visiting
the
office,
we
were
talking
about
that
and
the
option
of
having
there
between
no
this
year,
which
is
in
Montevideo,
but
next
year
in
in
Reston,
around
September
was
getting
some
traction,
so
I
mean
we
will
obviously
decide
this
in
the
AGM
in
a
couple
of
weeks.
But
anyway,
that's
one
of
the
options
on
day
on
the
table.
H
H
B
B
Okay,
good
any
any
more
questions:
excellent,
okay,
Thank
You,
Kathy
yeah.
We
don't
have
a
solution
here.
So
thanks
thanks
for
the
report
that
was
that
was
useful.
So
now
at
this
point,
I
think
we
can
move
that.
That
completes
the
or
concludes
the
you
know
blog.
We
had
four
reports,
so
we
have
accepted
a
bunch
of
reports
and
then
got
any
no
Kathy's
report
and
now
moving
on
to
to
a
different
point,
which
is
point
number
ten
in
the
agenda,
which
is
the
update
on
organizational
membership.
J
You
thank
you
for
the
time.
I
do
have
I,
think
you've
all
received
it
already,
but
I
I
do
have
a
short.
What
I
hope
to
be
a
very
short
PowerPoint
to
show
you
and
just
kind
of
talk
through
this
I
think
you
all
recognize
all
of
this
information,
as
as
we've
talked
about
it
on
a
couple
of
occasions,
so
far,
I'll
preface
anything
I'm
about
to
say
with
it's
not
only
been.
J
It's
been
one
of
the
highlights
of
working
at
the
to
get
to
work
on
this
with
this
team
to
take
a
very
complex
thing,
that
is
this
membership
for
the
organization
and
fundraising,
and
all
of
that,
and
so
to
be
able
to
pull
it
apart
and
think
about
it
and
put
it
back
together
in
a
way
that
I
think
meets
the
values
of
the
organization
has
been.
You
know,
maybe
funds
the
wrong
word,
but
it
has
been
a
challenge
and
being
something
that
I'm
very
interested
in
how
an
organization
like
this
works.
J
So
enough
with
my
my
preface
there
so
just
to
follow
up
with
you.
What
you
all
asked
me
to
do
and
what
we've
gone
off
and
done
so
your
request
in
our
March
meeting
was
to
confer
with
community,
as
we
do
talk
about
what
it
is.
We
want
to
do
and
gather
their
feedback.
So
we
went
out,
we
contacted
directly
all
150,
it's
I
think
it's
actually
in
the
149
level,
but
150
members
inviting
them
to
a
one-to-one
conversation.
This
wasn't
sent
out
by
a
blast,
email
or
anything
like
that.
J
We
spoke
to
them
or
tried
to
speak
to
them,
one
to
one
and
then
gathered
data
based
on
a
few
questions,
a
very
small
presentation
and
then
a
few
questions
back
the
results
this
time
we're
not
as
good
as
the
first
time
we
asked
for
the
community
to
get
involved.
Part
of
him
said:
look,
we
did
this
with
you.
We
we
told
you
what
we
wanted
if
you're
telling
us
if
you're
gonna
tell
us
that
you're
gonna
do
that
we're
good,
but
we
have.
J
A
J
J
J
We've
brought
people
in
on
our
community
networks
here
with
a
round
table
just
recently,
our
IDE
Internet
Governance
campaign
is
doing
the
same
thing.
We
are
engaging
with
the
community,
we
are
asking
their
opinion,
we're
asking
them
to
get
involved
and,
most
importantly,
we're
asking
them
to
be
advocates
with
us
figure.
This
out
most
realize
this
idea
of
a
diversity
of
geography,
corporates
and
nonprofits
and
the
size
of
the
organization,
a
very
welcomed
approach,
and
then
those
in
the
middle
tears
said
and
when
I
say
middle
tears,
I
mean
in
the
silver
range.
J
You
know
the
ten
ten
to
twenty
thousand
dollar
range.
Those
folks
said
you
know
increasing
the
the
dues
by
a
certain
amount.
It's
fine
with
us.
We
just
need
a
heads
up
to
it
so
that
we
could
put
it
in
our
budget
and
then
we've
had
some
success
with
going
to
new
organizations
for
membership
and
talking
about
our
new
benefits
and
selling
them
or
talking
to
them,
proposing
to
them
at
the
twenty
thousand
dollar.
Mark
and
you'll
see
some
other
data
here
in
a
minute.
J
We
currently
have
over
90
organizations
in
our
pipeline
for
presentations
and
proposals,
the
pipeline
and
obviously
that
just
comes
down
smaller's
go
through
it,
but
with
really
two
events
that
we've
gone
to
and
talked
to
people.
To
have
that
many
already,
who
have
said
hey,
I'm,
interested
in
hearing
more,
is
fairly.
J
We
do
have
some
folks
who
still
have
some
challenges
with
those
who
pays
higher
about
the
opportunity
to
partner.
The
words
were:
are
you
leaving
money
on
the
table?
You're
now
getting
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
from
me,
and
now
you
only
want
a
membership
of
one
thousand
and
I'm
only
gonna
budget,
twenty
thousand
at
the
organization,
may
be
missing
out
on
some
money.
J
J
They
want
to
know
how
this
thing
translates
and
they're
right.
We
should
have
a
one-to-one
mapping
of
how
this
thing
actually
translates
or
each
one
of
them
that's
individual,
but
I
think
you
all
would
agree
that
some
of
that
also
is
dependent
upon
I
asked
a
tool.
What
happens
there?
We
want
to
be
comfortable
and
ready
to
do
kind
of
both
sides
that
if
I
ask
the
two
Oh
doesn't
happen
in
this
year,
2018,
which
you
know
sounds
like
it
will.
J
What
are
we
going
to
do
and
how
do
we
map
that,
if
it
does,
we
probably
have
some
work
to
do
there
and
I
know
we
do
and
then
those
that
pay
very
small
amounts
they
have.
What
we've
heard
from
people
is
those
that
pay
very
small
amounts.
You
know
they
could
gang
up
or
they
could.
Somebody
could
buy
in
with
multiple
memberships
and
having
to
have
a
impact
on
the
governance
with
a
very
small
fee
and
we've
kind
of
tossed
that
around
and
and
we
kind
of
see
what
their
their
conversation
is.
J
You
know
the
risk
of
such
might
be
very
low,
but
I
think
we
have
a
plan
to
to
address
that
as
well,
so
quickly,
some
financials
for
you
and
and
thank
you
to
Sandy
and
her
team
for
helping
me
get
this
stuff.
So
this
is
our
year-to-date
revenue
just
through
q2,
and
the
percentages
are
of
the
q2
budget
through
q2
budget.
So
first
half
I
guess
is
the
way
to
look
at
that
and
you
can
see
where
we
are
memberships
grants
and
contributions,
corporate
partners
event
sponsorships
here.
J
J
That's
been
raised
for
IETF
in
DSS
or
PII
our
fund,
so
this
is
just
about
the
pieces
that
the
partnership
development
team
is
responsible
for
and
also
point
out
for
you
always
to
keep
in
mind
that
we
have
had
a
hundred
and
seventy
thousand
dollars
of
platinum
membership,
money,
they're
directed
away
from
their
membership
and
a
full
hundred
and
a
hundred
thousand
was
away
from
my
Sauk
programs
into
two
things
outside
of
our
our
our
scope
of
program.
So
you
take
that
one
hundred
and
seventy
and
add
it
back
into
that
six.
J
Ninety
four
and
you
see
we're
bit
closer
to
budget
than
what
this
shows,
but
this
is
the
exciting
part
for
me,
because
this
is
the
part
where
what
we're
talking
about
in
the
marketplace
as
it
were,
is
starting
to
bear
some
fruit.
So
over
90
organizations
in
a
prospect
stage,
most
of
those
in
proposal
stage.
We
have
several
stages.
We
use
as
we
look
at
our
pipeline
membership
corporate
partnerships.
J
You
can
see
that
you
know
you
add
in
some
of
these
things
and
you
start
to
see
that
we're
really
closer,
but
we
need
to
sign
up.
We
need
to
get
the
signature
on
the
contract
asked,
if
is
doing
very
well
for
us,
we're
we're
very
excited
about
the
opportunities
for
that
big
event
in
Africa
and
then
the
fellowship
stuff
that
we
have
going
over
IETF.
We
also
see
some
pretty
good
traction
on
that,
and
just
my
notes
here
just
keep
you
all
in
mind
that
we
have
a
second
full
time.
J
B
H
J
The
idea
of
the
corporate
partnership
was
that
there
are
some
people
who
or
we
are
approaching
or
will
talk
to
them
about
membership
and
that
they
will
say
you
know,
I'm
not
really
ready
for
a
membership.
But
this
thing
you
have
going
on
in
IOT
campaigns.
That's
very
interesting
to
me:
can
I
can
I
help
with
that?
J
Can
I
give
some
money
or
contribute
in
a
way
that
doesn't
put
me
into
a
membership,
but
it
does
give
me
the
opportunity
to
donate
or
see
I
used,
IOT
I
shouldn't
know
if
I
should
use
community
networks,
because
that's
where
we're
seeing
most
of
this
right
now
and
some
of
it
could
be
gifting
kind
in
terms
of
equipment
for
Community
Network
project
in
one
of
our
three
flagship
deployments.
So
we're
looking
at
that.
J
When
we
think
of
sponsorships
we're
thinking,
events
a
particular
event
that
they
are
gonna
sponsor
and
they'll
get
some
know
some
notoriety
during
that
or
a
fellowship
being
contributing
towards
sending
someone
to
an
actual
event
somewhere.
So
yeah,
that's
the
difference
there
and
our
budget
is
broken
out
like
this
to
Desiree
as
we
work
through
these
things.
So
we
have
these
buckets
that
were
working
for
yeah.
J
J
There
are
some
changes
that
have
to
be
made
so
proposal
number
one
is
that
we
move
forward
with
the
phased
in
approach,
as
I
talked
to
you
about
in
March
in
London
that
we
would
set
all
this
up
to
be
with
their
contractual
2019
renewal
and
then
there,
which
then
puts
their
voting
pieces
in
place
for
the
2020
election
impact
on
our
global
host.
We
have
an
agreement
with
these
folks
and
some
of
them
through
2025.
J
In
the
interim
from
the
2020
elections
until
their
contract
terminates,
we
would
let
their
votes
go
to
3x
instead
of
6x
platinum
as
those
folks
have
now,
and
that
would
be
through
their
contractual
term
and
again,
I'll
point
out
that
the
asterisk
is
I
asked
a
to
Oh.
Has
impact
on
all
of
this
and
I
think
that,
with
the
global
host
agreements,
that
is
probably
going
to
be
a
need
to
be
a
renegotiation
with
the
IETF
LLC
LLC
once
that
is
in
place.
J
I
think
that
the
IETF
at
least
what
I'm
hearing
IETF
is
thinking
the
same.
They
are
thinking
from
the
is
a
tool
point
of
view
that
these
contracts
would
need
to
be
renegotiated.
Somehow
I
will
say
just
you
know,
I
think
that
that's
needs
to
be
looked
at
once
we
get
there
all
other
full
members,
their
votes
go
to
1x,
starting
with
their
2019
renewal,
as
we've
talked
about
plus.
All
of
these
other
benefits
I
think
it
was
fair
enough.
J
What
folks
were
saying
that
large
nonprofits
and
I'm,
using
the
definition
for
large
nonprofits,
from
a
noted
of
the
American
Society
of
Association
executives
as
these
buckets
for
house?
What
size,
a
membership
organization
or
an
association
nonprofit
is
if
their
turnover
is
20
million
a
year?
They
call
them
large
that
we
should
work
with
them
to
pay
as
a
corporation.
Does
this
next
point
on
the
top
one
right
hand
would
be
what's
different
for
these
memberships
below
$5,000,
and
that
is
to
create
a
non-voting
membership.
J
J
The
try
before
you
buy
type
thing
before
you
go
up
to
that
higher
level
where
you
do
have
governance
capabilities
and
all
that
that
it
would
be
a
way
to
dip
your
toe
in
the
water
as
it
were.
We
would
still
do
some
of
the
discounting
factors,
although
we
would
reduce
the
tears
and
we're
working
on
what
that
would
look
like.
You
know
the
dollars
themselves
and
what
the
discount
would
be
for
those
who
want
to
spend
more
money
in
that
corporate
partnership
realm
as
Desiree
was
asking
about.
J
B
Rich
so
Todd
before
we
move
to
the
next
time
slide.
So
on
the
on
the
non-voting
membership,
don't
we
have
the
risk
that
I
mean
if
a
non-voting
membership
provides?
Basically
all
the
benefits,
except
the
governance
for
much
lower,
mean
that
you
know
some
organizations
are
actually
interested
in
this
and
and
they
basically
take
that
instead
of
the
other
or
your
conversations
don't
solve
this
problem.
Yeah.
J
Our
conversations
bear
out
that
that
really
what
folks
are
interested
in,
they
are
interested
in
the
benefits
they
want
to
be
involved.
They
want
to
have
this
information
and
all
that,
and
could
there
be
a
risk
over
time
of
people
saying
well,
I
just
want
to
pay
five
thousand
dollars
so
that
I
can
have
all
of
these
benefits.
I
think
it's
pretty
small,
but
I
there
could
be
there.
J
B
D
Push
that
it
would
be
more
corporate
activity
in
the
rest
of
the
world
now,
depending
how
large
they
or
maybe
you
would
still
pitch
them
on
voting
rights.
But
if
it's
a
smaller
person,
maybe
we
would
go
this
way,
but
I
hear
what
you're
saying
that
it
could
result
in
the
opposite
incentive.
So
I
think
would
have
to
be
closely
watched,
but
that
was
part
of.
J
C
That
makes
sense
me
I
have
to
say
the
when
I've
seen
what
I've
seen
here.
I
asked
her
to
other
sort
of
a
placeholder
yeah
we'll
have
some
sort
of
some
sort
of
organizational
fundraising
thing
and
nobody,
except
maybe
Alyssa's.
Nobody
even
thought
about
it
yet,
but
I'll
make
sure
we
keep
it
in
mind.
Yeah.
J
Because
what
I'm
hearing
back
is
like
can't
call
the
name
of
the
person
who's
actually
now
working
on
fundraising
there,
but
the
question
has
come
up:
should
we
be
renegotiating
these
global
host
agreements
and
these
bigger
agreements
that
that
are
putting
direct
money
into
IETF
to
Raisa
I?
Think
it's
all
a
reasonable
question,
but
if
so,
that's
where
the
money
will
go
or
we're
working
on
trying
to
build
it
back
up.
I.
B
I
think
exactly
as
as
what
God
was
saying
actually
and
I
talked
to
him
about
that.
As
I
have
said
many
times,
I
mean
the
the
parts
of
a
larger
organization
paying
for
I,
so
they
are
different
than
the
parts
of
the
large
organization
paying
for
the
ITF
and
at
this
point,
I
have
the
feeling
that
if
you
look
at
you
know
who
are
writing
the
text
like
JSON
myself,
you
know
those
guys
we
are
kind
of
closer
to
the
idea
side
of
things.
So
in
that
sense,
I
fully
agree
with
thoughts,
analysis,
okay,.
B
H
J
It
would
take
place
with
her
as
we
go
to
each
of
these
and
as
their
renewals,
because
they're
not
all
in
one
timeframe.
You
know
it's
when
they
came
in
and
we
do
these
on
one-year
contracts.
So,
as
their
renewals
come
up
in
2019
before
that,
well
just
step
back
Desiree,
we
would
actually
start
talking
to
people
beforehand
what
it
looks
like,
so
they
can
budget
appropriately.
That
was
the
reason
to
do
it
in
the
2019
renewal
it
so
that
they
would
have
full
full
transparency
of
what
we
would.
J
We
would
be
asking
them
so
that
they
can
budget
appropriately
for
their
2019
budget,
but
then
we
would
do.
We
would
do
the
transaction
to
the
2019
renewal,
the
financial
transaction,
we're
delivering
the
benefits
right
now
and
started
doing
that
work
as
of
March
or
so
so
the
Trent
the
financial
transaction
would
be
there,
which
would
then
impact
the
elections
at
the
end
of
2019,
which
obviously
are
the
2020
board
seated
board.
Thank.
H
You
and
so
I'm
thinking
along
the
same
lines
as
a
little
bit
concerned,
perhaps
for
cutting
down
the
Platinum
fee
and
maybe
trying
to
see
whether
wendy
is
administrative
body
setup,
whether
we
still
have
Platinum
members
continuing
to
pay,
because
in
my
account
we
may
lose
three
of
those
Ericsson
and
not
to
name
or
the
organizations
that
may
jump
to
the
I
asset
2.0
structure.
But
we
may
still
withhold
some
of
the
original
plays
November.
H
J
What
the
data
tells
me
is
that
half
of
those
Platinum
members
are
global
host
companies
as
well
so
they're
tied
to
this
is
a
oh
thing,
the
other
four,
because
there's
nine
total
members,
the
other
four
we've
been
talking
to
about
this,
and
they
still
have
interest
in
supporting
programs
of
the
Internet
Society.
So
and
again
talking
about
it
is
different
from
signing
the
checks,
as
John
was
pointing
up
at
that
time.
J
You
know
their
interest
in
still
supporting
the
Internet
Society
is
strong
and
what
we
want.
Our
conversations
with
them
is
$20,000
for
membership
and
you'll.
Let
me
put
$80,000
if
I
still
want
to
do
a
hundred
thousand
to
some
program.
You
think
that's
reasonable,
so
I
think
we're
we're
still
find.
If
we
get
to
that
point
and
I
asked
a
to
oh,
isn't
fully
baked
I
concur
with
you
Desiree.
J
J
J
H
J
J
J
J
H
And
I
would
think
that
you
would
like
to
also
have
another
meeting
where
you
would
create
a
and
and
discuss
this
non-voting
membership
proposition
with
them
thoroughly.
Because
I
would
like
to
think
we'd
like
to
improve
the
diversity
of
small
and
medium
and
repair
ship
and
small
businesses.
Rather
than
raise
the
barrier
and.
J
I
concur
with
you
a
hundred
percent,
and
that's
why
we
thought
about
doing
it
this
way.
In
terms
of
you
know,
maybe
it
still
is
2.5
hundred
dollars.
Maybe
it
is
twenty
five
hundred
dollars
their
membership
stays
the
same.
Just
this
this
below
5,000
dollars,
saying
you
know,
we're
gonna,
deliver
you
benefits
and
what
we've
heard
from
them
is
the
the
voting
and
you
can
see
from
their
voting
track
record.
J
J
J
You
know
continue
to
be
very
clear
that
this
is
something
we're
keeping
our
eye
on
and
we
stand
ready
to
assist
as
soon
as
IETF
is
ready
for
us
to
do
so,
in
whatever
format
that
looks
at
we'd
run
our
2019
Board
of
Trustee
elections,
as
always
with
the
vote
multipliers
just
like
they
are
from
2018
membership
and
renewals
and
then
2020
this
with
the
2020
election
is
when
this
would
take
take
effect.
I
think
I
went
over
15
minutes,
I
apologize
for
that,
but
great
questions
and
I
appreciate
the
opportunity.
Excellent.
B
Excellent,
okay,
so
well
we
need
every
solution.
Let's,
let's
start
discussions
within
the
board
and
let's
see
if
we
are
ready
by
Panama
or
or
you
know,
we
we
pass
it
at.
You
know
a
later
point,
but
anyway,
let's
let's,
let's
start
a
discussion
right
now
with
in
the
material
that
todd
has
presented
on
his
previous
presentations
and
then
we
will
take
it
from
there.