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From YouTube: Day 3: Enabling Communities to Grow the Internet
Description
Community Networks are a way to bridge the connectivity gap. They happen when people come together to build and maintain Internet infrastructure to connect on their own terms. Internet by the community, for the community. In this session, community members from Pakistan to Hawaii will showcase their success stories and experiences in facing a range of different challenges related to community networks. We'll look at concrete examples of how you can get engaged and help grow the Internet locally.
Speakers: Mark Buell, Marcelo Saldanha, Monica Sanders, Burt Lum
A
Welcome
to
enabling
communities
to
grow
the
internet
in
this
session,
we'll
be
talking
about
some
of
the
amazing
work.
Our
community
has
been
doing
to
grow
the
internet
in
the
americas.
My
name
is
mark
buehl
and
I'm
the
regional
vice
president
for
north
america.
Before
we
get
started.
One
really
quick
housekeeping
item
we'll
be
taking
questions
at
the
end
of
the
talk.
So
please
don't
be
shy,
post
your
comments
and
questions
throughout
the
session
in
the
chat
window
and
and
we'll
get
to
them
after
everyone's
done
speaking.
A
Community
driven
connectivity
solutions
like
community
networks
are
a
sustainable
and
low
cost
alternative
to
traditional
internet
service
providers.
For
many
parts
of
the
world
they
are
the
result
of
communities
coming
together
to
build
and
maintain
internet
infrastructure
and
and
to
connect
on
their
own
terms.
Today
we
are
joined
by
three
community
leaders
to
talk
about
their
work
with
community
networks
in
the
americas,
marcelo
cel
saldana
from
brazil,
monica
sanders
from
the
united
states
and
bert
lum
from
hawaii.
They
will
each
tell
their
stories
of
bringing
connectivity
to
their
communities.
B
Okay,
mark
thanks
and
hi
everybody
good
night,
and
I
want
to
share
some
experience
here
in
brazil
that
we
are
having
such
as
capacity
building
new
regulatory
process
and
introductions
to
cns
to
community
networks
and
how
the
telecom
regulator
scenario
is
here.
In
brazil
and
the
last
year
with
the
sport
with
from
isaac.
We
create
the
first
course
for
community
networks,
ngos
and
activists
to
understand
the
regulatory
process.
B
The
the
course
is
abused,
with
some
peculiar
and
specific
issues
about
the
regulatory
process
in
brazil
that
it's
a
difficult
to
almost
community
here
in
brazil
to
understand
and
to
access
the
the
site
of
the
regulatory
entity.
That's
a
natal
here
in
brazil
and
the
course
have
this
objective
to
make
these
laces
out
and
to
facilitate
to
make
it
more
easy
to
understand
how
each
community
can
asking
for
the
license,
or
the
exception
for
the
license,
also
licensed
accent.
B
And
here
in
brazil.
We
work
with
about
18
people
from
almost
12
communities.
With
this
in
this
course,
and
for
now
we
have
about
four
five
communities
getting
not
only
the
license
because
the
license
they
already
get
already
got.
In
the
the
course,
but
now
we
are
experienced
to
the
last
mile
of
this
trajectory,
that
is
to
get
a
license-
spectrum.
B
And
about
more
30
days,
we
will
have
the
answer
from
one
hotel
for
this
expected
licenses
and
then
we
will
close
the
objectives
of
the
course
that
we
beginning
in
the
last
year,
all
the
communities
passing
through
all
the
process
to
understand
each
site
and
procedure
that
it's
necessary
to
get
the
license.
It's
about
10
procedures
to
to
get
the
license
here
in
brazil,
but
it's
like
a.
B
B
B
B
Legally,
it's
a
great
thing
because
before
that,
all
the
things
that
we
that
we
done
here
it's
a
year
about
a
criminal
action,
but
in
2013
we
get
this
first
license
and
in
2017
we
get
the
license,
accept
that
it's
amplify
all
the
the
possibilities
that
everyone
and
every
community
could
create
your
own
convenient
network
with
a
more
easy
way
because
license
accepted
the
process.
It's
very
easy
to
conclude.
B
The
problem
today
with
commit
network
is
how
to
use
the
spectrum
and
other
things
that
the
resources
it's
difficult,
because
here
in
brazil
we
don't
have
any
policy
public
policy
to
fundraising
or
to
stimulate
community
networks
a
little
things
that
we
have
here.
It's
not
enough
to
to
accomplish
and
to
resolve
the
the
big
problem
that
we
have
here
in
brazil,
about
50
of
the
households
disconnected
from
intel
broadband,
fixed
broadband
internet
with
quality
and
what
kind
of
pulse
we
have
today
in
for
this
conclusion
and
access.
B
We
have
the
program,
wi-fi
brazil,
that
we
are
discussing
with
the
minister
of
communication
to
have
a
more
strategic
and
magical
way
to
join
this
polit.
This
policy,
with
community
networks
and
last
week
we
have
a
conversation
with
the
minister
of
communication
and
with
anatol
to
understand
how
these
policies
and
and
another
policy
for
anatomy,
it's
the
backhaul
access
for
community
networks
and
then
we're
discussing
how
we
can
arrange
all
these
industries
and
these
policies
with
community
network
and
for
the
future.
B
A
C
So
broadly,
we
are
looking
at
how
we
can
work
with
communities
on
building
networks
and
for
the
past
two
years
we've
been
deeply
involved
in
a
community
in
baltimore
west
baltimore
called
sandtown.
If
any
of
you
all
are
familiar
with,
the
television
show
the
wire.
This
is
the
neighborhood,
where
a
lot
of
those
scenes
took
place.
So
when
we
talk
about
divestment,
we
talk
about
challenges
to
infrastructure
and
challenges
to
access
to
public
service
of
any
kind.
C
This
is
the
template
neighborhood
for
that
kind
of
divestment,
but
it's
also
a
great
template
neighborhood
because
of
the
sheer
level
of
optimism
of
the
people
in
the
neighborhoods
who
want
to
participate
in
this
project.
So
we
first
became
aware
of
jonathan
moore
who's.
Our
community
lead,
who
runs
an
organization
called
rowdy
orbit
back
in
2019.
C
C
He
wanted
more
social
connection
in
the
neighborhood
like
many
of
us
who
perhaps
grew
up
in
a
real
neighborhood,
which
is
hard
now,
because
many
of
us
live
in
apartments
and
sort
of,
like
you
know,
isolated
communities
who
grew
up
with
connections
to
other
people
in
the
community.
He
wanted
a
way
to
build
that
social
cohesion
back
which,
when
you
think
about
all
of
these
things
that
are
difficult
to
measure
right,
we
can
measure
how
many
nodes
or
meshes
we
have.
We
can't
measure
community
connectivity.
C
It
could
have
been
a
challenge,
but
that
was
one
of
the
things
that
made
it
attractive
to
the
internet
society
and
to
the
council
in
dc.
Was
it
was
such
a
holistic
approach
to
doing
this
so
how
to
begin
when
you
have
such
a
challenge,
so
what
we
did
was
we
started
with
a
small
training
grant
from
the
larger
internet
society
in
2019,
and
we
taught
people
from
jonathan's
organization,
as
well
as
some
youth
from
the
community,
a
group
of
teenagers
who
I'll
put
this
in
lessons
learned.
C
C
It
was
over
a
weekend
at
american
university
and
the
decision
was
made
to
donate
that
training
equipment
to
the
community
to
set
up
the
first
node.
We
did
that
in
concert
with
a
charter
school
called
new
song,
and
that
was
our
first
note.
Some
of
you
all
who
might
have
been
following
this
project
are
following
the
news:
the
day
that
the
quote-unquote
internet
went
on
in
baltimore,
the
baltimore
sun
and
nbc
nightly
news
followed
the
program
and
here's
a
reason
why
I
made
news.
C
It
was
intentional
that
there
was
no
fiber
line
brought
into
that
neighborhood
per
what
I
was
talking
about
it
being
the
scene
of
where
the
wire
took
place.
There
was
a
policy
decision
not
to
provide
internet
services
to
that
part
of
baltimore,
and
so
for
us,
this
community
to
have
overcome
that
intentional
obstacle
to
access
was
a
big
moment
in
baltimore,
as
well
as
a
model
for
how
we
would
handle
these
kinds
of
things
in
other
urban
areas
in
the
united
states.
Okay.
C
C
What's
nice
is
more
partners
from
the
community
came
on
board
a
group
called
elevate
baltimore,
which
is
an
anti-poverty
group,
but
their
mission
broadly
covers
anything,
that's
anti-poverty,
and
so
they
link
high
quality
access
to
public
service
and
civic
participation
and
poverty
eradication
came
on
board
the
united
way
of
central
maryland
city
of
refuge
and
in
power,
which
are
two
other
groups
that
we're
looking
at
doing.
Community
networks
decided
to
join
forces
with
rowdy
orbit
and
isoc,
and
what
that
did
for
us
was
helped
us
to
get
more
nodes
up
so
much
faster.
C
It
went
from
one
node
at
this
new
song
community
center
to
one
on
the
steeple
of
a
church.
Saint
joseph's
catholic
church
was
being
remodeled
for
other
purposes.
Now
the
medstar
hospitals
in
baltimore
have
offered
up
their
tall
buildings
as
potential
locations
for
more
meshes
for
the
same
group
of
people.
So
now
we've
gone
from.
C
We
have
this
one
lights
on
wi-fi
on
project,
at
a
charter
school
in
baltimore
to
six
different
nodes,
and
then
we
have
a
small
mesh
that
is
in
a
neighborhood
called
brooklyn
within
baltimore,
and
we
got
one
home
that
was
a
three-story
home
on
a
hill.
So
it's
a
perfect
place
to
put
up
a
note.
If
any
of
you
are
familiar
with
althea,
it's
a
similar
concept,
like
one
person
in
the
community,
hosts
the
actual
node
and
everybody
pays
into
it
and
deals
with
the
maintenance
of
it.
C
C
So
in
terms
of
where
we
started
this
desire
to
build
infrastructure,
but
can
we
build
some
social
cohesion
back
and
really
some
positive
experiences
in
this
neighborhood,
which
is
known
for
something
that
isn't
really
reflective
of
the
most
positive
aspects
of
it,
and
certainly
isn't
known
as
a
hub
of
digital
entrepreneurship
and
high
quality
internet
services?
Right?
But
that's
part
of
changing
the
narrative
because
we
still
don't
have
a
fiber
line
into
west
baltimore.
West
baltimore
is
getting
connected
by
virtue
of
these
community
networks
right.
C
So
all
of
this
started
before
the
ideas
of
digital
equity
in
the
digital
divide
became
popular
because
in
2019
this
was
in
public
discourse,
but
there
wasn't
a
lot
of
funding
for
it.
So
we
know
that
in
the
united
states
there's
some
federal
government
funding.
There
are
many
other
non-profits
beyond
the
internet,
society
that
are
interested
in
funding
internet
infrastructure
that
are
interested
in
community
networks.
So
the
next
move
for
mr
moore
and
his
partners
are
to
diversify
their
funding
and
to
continue
building
these
networks.
C
C
I
think
I
was
about
to
talk
about
political
instability,
so
in
2019,
baltimore
didn't
have
a
mayor
and
it
didn't
have
a
federal
representative
and
the
state
rep
was
not
invested
in
that
neighborhood,
so
there
was
basically
no
political
representation
when
we
began
this
project
a
lot
of
times
when
you're
doing
this-
and
you
talked
about
regulations
marcelo
is
you
want
to
interact
with
the
elected
official?
Do
some
advocacy
and
lobbying
around
having
the
right
regulatory
environment
for
what
you're
doing?
C
They
also
have
a
position
called
a
chief
resilience
officer
who's,
looking
at
all
kinds
of
all
the
themes
surrounding
resilience,
social
cohesion,
access
to
broadband,
access
to
civic
participation,
that's
in
place,
and
they
have
been
reaching
out
to
the
partners
in
this
community
network
group
to
find
out
how
they
can
increase
some
of
these
networks,
but
then
also
potentially
work
with
the
cable
providers
to
at
least
get
a
non-competitive
route
to
expanding
broadband
reach
in
the
neighborhood.
So
that's
where
we're
at
now.
C
C
They're
made
up
of
teenagers
who
need
some
sort
of
job
training
that
otherwise
would
not
have
access
to
this
and
they're
increasingly
made
up
of
women
who
were
essential
workers
that
were
forced
out
of
it
because
of
the
pandemic.
Now
have
employment
and
the
possibility
of
you
know
high-tech
training,
but
for
what
started
as
a
community
network
project,
and
all
of
that
is
because
of
the
sheer
initiative
of
the
people
who
live
there.
So
there's
some.
C
You
know
hard
what
we
thought
it
was
going
to
be
when
we
started
and
the
things
that
we've
learned
now
that
we've
finished
and
then
what's
next
is
now
that
we
do
have
access
to
political
stakeholders
is
looking
into
some
regulatory
and
advocacy
trainings
that
there's
an
environment
for
it
now,
so,
thank
you
all
for
having
me.
I
hope
you
enjoyed
hearing
about
the
project
and
I
will
turn
it
back
over
to
you.
Mark.
A
D
D
You
know
we
come
from
a
little
different
perspective
and
and
for
those
that
might
not,
you
know,
know
exactly
where
hawaii
might
be.
It's
we're
we're
in
the
middle
of
the
pacific
about
2
000
miles
away
from
you
know.
The
the
continental
us
and
asia
is
another
2500
2500
miles
away,
so
we're
pretty
isolated.
We're
we're
here
in
the
middle-
and
you
know
like
monica,
was
saying
you
know
I
got
involved
with
this
whole
broadband
effort.
D
You
know
in
2018
and
and
back
then
you
know,
everybody
was
paying
attention
to
other
things
and
and
the
pandemic
was
really
kind
of
what
brought
attention
to
broadband
and
things
like
digital
equity.
I
I
also
must
give
you
some
background.
So
my
my
role
here
in
hawaii
is
the
broadband
strategy
officer.
I'm
the
I'm
here
in
the
state
of
hawaii.
I
work
for
the
state,
I
am
part
of
the
department
of
business,
economic
development
and
tourism.
D
D
If
we
were
to
do
it
in
hawaii,
where
would
we
actually
do
a
community
network,
because
that
was
part
of
the
indigenous
connectivity
summit
and
at
that
time
you
know
there
weren't
any
community
networks
here
in
hawaii,
so
based
on
you
know
what
I
considered
the
parameters
for
establishing
a
community
network
being
that
it
was
an
indigenous
connectivity
summit.
What
I
was
looking
for
was
whether
it
was
native
hawaiian
whether
it
was
on
on
an
area
that
would
be
pretty
self-contained
and
and
managed.
D
If
there
were
people
within
the
community
that
would
be
interested
in
managing
it
and
keeping
it
sustained
beyond
the
implementation
of
the
community
network,
whether
there
was
actual
fiber
connections,
there
was
there.
Was
there
the
ability
to
have
some
degree
of
backhaul,
and
I
wanted
it
to
be
on
oahu,
because
that's
where
I
live
so
I
can
actually,
you
know,
actually
be
an
active
participant
in
making
sure
that
that
the
the
project
could
unfold.
We
have.
D
We
have
other
major
islands
here
in
the
chain
and
it
would
have
been
difficult
for
me
to
go
fly
back
and
forth
if
we
chose
it.
You
know
chose
to
do
it,
this
initial
project
on,
let's
say
maui
or
the
big
island,
so
we
did
it
on
oahu
and
we
found
we
found
the
location,
it
is
called
waimanalo
and
this
was
in
2019
and
why
this
is
important
is
because
not
only
was
it
the
first
community
network
and
it
was
a
an
indigenous
community,
it
was
headed.
D
When
I
first
met
with
them,
they
they
really
got
on
the
bandwagon
fast.
They
realized
that
you
know,
given
this
technology,
they
could
enable
their
community
to
be
much
more
active
participants
in
the
21st
century
and
and
their
their
location
is
up
up
against
the
foothills
of
the
mountains
and
they
typically,
you
know
in
this
community,
aren't
going
to
get
fiber
run
to
their
home
there.
D
They
were
previously
a
homeless
encampment
that
was
able
to
move
into
the
foothills
by
by
the
state,
allowing
them
to
lease
this
land
that
they
were
able
to
set
up
camp
on
and
over
the
course
of
the
last
20
25
years.
They've
set
up
a
pretty,
you
know
pretty
good
community
up
there,
and-
and
luckily
you
know,
hawaiian
telecom
actually
ran
fiber
to
the
end
of
the
property
or
to
the
you
know,
to
the
start
of
their
property.
So
we
worked
out
all
the
arrangements
for
extending
the
fiber
into
the
property.
D
You
know
we
had
the
dates
all
set.
The
internet
society
was
coming
in.
We
were
getting
the
hardware,
you
know
one
of
the
logistic
challenges
that
I
I
overcame
quickly
because
bumpy
said
no
problem,
I
can
trench.
I
can
change
from
the
you
know
the
property
line
all
the
way
to
the
community
center,
and
that
was
all
done.
You
know
by
by
the
community,
taking
taking
an
active,
participate,
participatory
role
in
making
this
happen.
D
So
so
it
was.
You
know
it
was
a
lot
of
work,
but
it
was,
it
was
pretty
smooth
and
it
actually
accomplished
what
we
wanted
to
do,
which
was
establish
the
first
community
network
here
in
hawaii
and
and
along
with
that,
we
we
got
a
couple
of
great
spokespeople
for
community
network
and
and
again
this
is
you
know,
unlike
monica
we,
you
know
this
was
a
not
necessarily
as
as
I
would
well.
D
Maybe
it
is
kind
of
an
impoverished
community,
but
you
know
it
was
something
that
wasn't
ignored
because
at
least
hawaii
did
run
fiber
there
and-
and
we
were
able
to
accomplish
that
kind
of
connectivity
and
then
the
next.
The
next
project
I
thought,
would
be
kind
of
a
a
fairly
straightforward
replication
of
waianae.
D
Waimanalo
was
waianae,
and
this
is
on
ono,
it's
a
it's,
a
a
community
that
is
on
the
west
side,
and
a
little
bit
of
background
on
them
is
that
they
are
also
a
homeless
community
and
they
were
pretty
much
living
in
on
the
boat
harbor
by
waianae,
and
so
what
what
the
the
folks
over
at
waianae
did
was.
They,
you
know
they
they
came
together.
D
About
a
mile
and
a
half
away
from
where
they
are
located
at
the
boat
harbor,
so
this
particular
location
was
another
prime
example
of
where
a
community
network,
where
typically
the
you
know
the
carriers,
hawaiian
telecom
or
charter
cable
company,
they
wouldn't
necessarily
run
fiber
to
the
home
because
there
are
no
homes
there's.
This
is
a
it's
a
homeless,
encampment
and
and
as
they
move
to
their
new
location
in
in
what
I
call
waianae
mauka,
which
is
you
know
toward
the
mountains,
it's
not
gonna,
be
your
typical.
D
You
know
home
where
you
have
a
street
address,
it's
gonna
be
a
community,
so
it
would
be
another
example
of
where
a
community
network
would
be
ideal
and
the
challenges
that
we
had
to
make
this
one
happen
were
overcome
pretty
straightforwardly.
What
we
did
was
we
needed
to
raise
some
money
to
get
hawaiian
telecom
to
run
some
fiber
between
one
of
the
highways
coming
up.
D
It
was
actually
farrington
highway
and
it
was
about
a
mile,
a
mile
and
a
half
toward
the
along
waianae
valley,
road
to
where
this
encampment
is
and
and
through
the
force
of
will
from
one
of
our
participants.
In
in
the
broadband
hui
which
which
I'll
share
with
you,
what
it
is,
she
was
able
to
raise
money
from
philanthropic
support
and
we
raised
about
160
thousand
dollars
so
that
huawei
telecom
could
run
fiber
to
that
to
that
location.
D
And
then
we
were
able
to
get
a
couple
of
gigabit
circuits
to
enable
some
air
airband
hardware
that
the
internet
society
provided.
So
between
a
couple
of
philanthropic
support,
internet
society
and
weinberg
foundation.
We
were
able
to
raise
some
money
and
we
are
in
right
now
in
the
current
stage
of
of
implementing
that
that
network
and
what
we're
doing
is
since,
since
the
the
community
is
in
the
process
of
building
their,
what
we
call
little
hollis,
which
is
a
little
little
house.
D
It's
like
a
little
a-frame
house,
they're
in
the
process
of
building
that
so
they're
still
pretty
much
located
down
at
the
boat
harbor.
So
we're
we're
looking
at
setting
up
one
of
the
gigabit
circuits
connected
to
the
air
band
and
then
connect
that
air
vent
to
another
airband
out
at
the
boat,
harbor
and
so
get
them
connected
to
wi-fi
wi-fi
connections.
And
you
might
be
thinking
well.
How
do
we,
how
do
we
connect
the
folks
down
at
the
at
the
boat
harbor
for
them
to
get
access
any
of
this
internet
benefit?
D
Well,
there
are
companies
here,
a
non-profit
called
hawaiian,
hope
and
and
hawaiian
hope
actually
takes
refurbished
hardware
and
makes
it
available
at
basically
no
cost.
So
we
have
hardware
we
have
the
internet
connection
and
and
and
now
we're
also
expanding
this
so
that
people
realize
that
you
know
it's.
It's
all
about
digital
equity.
Broadband
access
is
one
level
of
it,
but
learning
the
the
digital
literacy
part,
the
computer
literacy
part
the
you
know
the
understanding
of
the
technology
once
you
have
access
to
it.
D
I
I
look
at
it
like
the
it's
kind
of
the
democratization
of
the
technology,
so
that,
if
you
can
not
only
get
people
connected,
can
you
get
people
the
the
understanding
of
leveraging
this
technology
so
that
they
can
be
full
participants
in
the
21st
century?
So
these
are.
These
are
some
examples
and
and
and
what's
important
about
the
timeline
is
that
you
know
if
it
wasn't
for
mark
and
us
meeting
and
him
kind
of
opening
my
eyes
to
the
whole
idea
of
indigenous
connectivity.
D
I
you
know
we
started
this
well
before
the
pandemic
and
it
it
it
look.
I
look
back
at
it.
It's
kind
of
my
my
sort
of
crowning
achievement
to
actually
have
that
first
establishment
and
and
it's
not
something
that
we
can
look
at
and
say.
Theoretically,
you
know
this
might
be
a
good
thing
to
do.
This
is
something
that
we
actually
implemented.
So
it's
an
example
of
how
we
can
continue
this
work
beyond
what
was
what
was
done
at
waianae.
D
You
know
through
the
internet
society
we
also
were
introduced
to
you,
know
the
ice
idea
of
fcc,
making
the
2.5
gigahertz
spectrum
available
and,
and
that
is
being
made
available
to
the
native
americans
native
alaskans,
as
well
as
native
hawaiians.
Now,
in
the
case
of
hawaii,
just
to
try
to
make
a
long
story
short
there,
there
is
no
federal
recognition
of
of
native
hawaiians
as
a
as
a
native
american
tribe.
D
So
I
I
needed
to
help
establish
some
organization
that
would
be
the
applicant
for
2.5
gigahertz
and
and
since
there
is
federal
recognition
for
the
organization
of
the
department
of
wine
homelands,
we
were
able
to
do
that,
and
so
the
hawaiian
folks
at
the
hawaii
homelands.
They
were
able
to
apply
for
2.5
gigahertz.
D
This
is
people
that
are
in
the
vicinity
of
the
library,
and
so
the
library
could
be
a
location
for
the
creation
of
more
community
networks
that
go
beyond
the
physical
location
of
the
library.
So
there
the
library
is
an
example
of
of
an
institution.
That's
already
in
the
community,
they're
they're
a
trusted
resource,
and
they
are
already
involved
with
not
only
literacy
from
a
reading
standpoint,
but
literacy
from
now
can
be
a
part
of
the
digital
literacy
movement
and
and
to
add
they.
D
They
are
also
recognized
by
our
telehealth
community
as
being
a
great
place
for
delivery
of
telehealth
services.
So
again
the
library
becomes
a,
I
think
it's
a
it's.
A
pandemic
has
helped
to
perhaps
even
redefine
what
libraries
are
able
to
do
so
we're
excited
about.
You
know
moving
that
forward.
So
again,
you
know
this
whole
arena
of
community
networks
for,
for
me,
at
least
here
at
the
state
and
and
with
the
support
of
the
internet
society.
D
You
know
we
started
very
humbly,
but
you
know
I
can
see
this
this
effort
to
look
at
ways
of
connecting
communities
that
don't
typically
fall
into
the
business
plan
of
of
the
commercial
telecom
companies
or
the
cable
companies
and
look
at
what
kinds
of
alternatives.
Alternative
models
could
service
communities
that
could
benefit
from.
D
You
know
the
wireless
technologies
and
and
the
support
from
the
community
and
get
get
the
more
of
our
goals
for
digital
equity
achieved
through
you
know
the
innovation
of
these,
these
communities,
these
institutions
to
get
on
board
to
meet
our
broadband
equity
and
digital
equity
goals.
So,
in
a
nutshell,
that's
kind
of
what
what
we
have
and-
and
I'm
I'm
happy
to
say
that
you
know
it
all
started
back
in
20
2018.
D
I
guess
in
inuvik
and
2019
in
waimanalo
and
thanks
to
the
internet
society,
for
helping
to
chart
that
course
and
again
mark.
You
know
I
just
I'm
just
enjoying
this
relationship
that
we
have
with
you.
Thanks
for
having
me
on
the
panel
and
thanks
to
our
other
panelists
and
again,
I've
learned
a
lot
and
we
will
continue
this
this
journey
together.
To
achieve
you
know
these
goals
that
we've
set
for
ourselves
thanks
a
lot
thanks.
A
Bro
there
is
some
irony
to
the
fact
that
the
community
network
movement
in
hawaii
started
in
the
canadian
arctic
under
snow.
But
that's
that's
neither
here
nor
there.
We
don't
have
any
questions
in
the
chat,
but
each
of
our
speakers.
If
you
have
questions
for
each
other,
please
go
ahead.
I
have
one
and
it's
for
each
of
you.
You
know
what
advice
do
you
have
for
a
chapter
that
may
know
of
a
community
or
a
an
area
that
could
really
use
a
community
network?
A
D
Well,
I'll,
just
I'll
just
jump
in
and
just
quickly
say
that
the
the
key
thing
that
I
you
know
I
would
look
for
is
a
champion.
You
know
it's
it's
one
thing
to
have
the
resources.
Have
the
you
know
money,
maybe
the
fiber
connection,
but
if
you
have
a
connection
a
champion
in
that
community,
that
is
golden.
So
that's
that's
what
I
would
be
looking
for.
C
And
I
just
jump
in
and
then
later
I
have
a
question
for
bert
I'd
say:
listen
a
lot
of
times
when
we
want
to
advocate
or
work
with
the
community.
We
think
we
have
all
the
information
like
we
know.
You're
disconnected
you
don't
have
this,
you
don't
have
that.
Go
and
listen.
Don't
survey,
don't
rely
on
external
data
like
once
you
find
that
champion
just
sit
with
them
before
you
do
anything
else,
and
you
will
learn
so
much
about
what
you
actually
need
to
build
once
you
get
to
the
place
of
building
it.
B
I
understand
that
you
were
doing
political
regulatory
incidents,
but
using
deputies
or
the
the
parliament,
but
maybe
it's
to
to
make
these
incidents
directly
in
the
fcc.
Maybe
it's
a
good
thing.
We
need
to
you
need
to
understand
more
the
telecommunication
regulation,
but
it's
more
easy
to
make
incidents.
B
D
Well
I'll
take
maybe
10
seconds
to
answer
or
marcelo's
question
so
there's
you
know
from
an
obligation
standpoint
for
the
carriers,
whether
it's
telecom
or
or
cable.
They
have
their
business
model.
You
know
they
pretty
much
run
it
the
way
they
run
it.
We
don't.
We
don't
force
them
to
do
anything
beyond.
You
know
their
their
requirement
and
and
there's
regulations,
but
you
know
they
it's
regulated
under
delivery
of
cable
and
and
telephone
service.
D
As
far
as
libraries,
you
know
it
kind
of
boils
down
to
what
they
feel
their
mission
is
and
and
with
the
libraries
our
our
head
librarian.
She
feels
our
mission
is
to
achieve
digital
equity
in
in
all
ways
that
she
can.
She
can
enable
from
the
from
the
school
standpoint
they
feel
like
you
know,
their
students
is
their
main
main
mission.
So
you
know
they
don't
want
to.
They
don't
want
to.