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A
A
I'm
Molly,
I'm,
captain
of
the
local
offline
collaboration
working
group
and
I'm
super
excited
about
how
we
can
use
IP,
FS
and
similarly
distributed
technology
to
help
people
in
places
with
poor
internet
connectivity,
get
access
to
all
of
our
knowledge
that
exists
on
the
internet
and
use
it
to
collaborate
and
work
together
without
having
to
go
over
these
really
long
haul
internet
connections
in
order
to
share
content
with
each
other.
So
that's
me
dominic!
You
want
to
go
next.
B
Sure
I'm
Dominic
I
work
for
protocol
apps,
mostly
on
go
ipfs,
basically
going
to
just
mimic
what
Molly
said.
They're
super
stressed
out
personally.
Whenever
all
flying
things
don't
work,
and
you
know
they
there's
no
reason
they
shouldn't
so
I'm
trying
to
work
towards
that
and
also
see
what
other
people
are
to
work
towards
that
effort.
So
that's
me.
C
D
Yeah
so
I'm
Jonathan
I've
been
working
on
my
own
kind
of
like
Internet
in
the
backpack
project,
vacuous
and
I'm.
Also
another
project,
that's
doing
like
disaster
recovery,
communications
tools
and
then
I'm,
just
like
pretty
active
on
scuttlebutt
and
experimenting
with
like
local
art
communities
in
New,
York
City,
and
how
offline
first
and
like
peer-to-peer
power
structures
affect
those
communities
and
help
them.
A
Awesome
thanks
for
coming
back.
Well,
you
wanna
Cooper
we're.
E
The
Liberty
bTW
I'm
very
interested
in
applying
for
a
very
long
time.
In
my
final
year,
project
I
built
a
university,
as
was
13
years
ago.
I
think
I'd
build
a
social
network
that
revolved
around
Bluetooth
for
mobile
devices,
use
a
j2me
back
at
the
time
and
really
old,
Sony
Ericsson
devices
and
very
bad
programming
environment
for
those.
E
So
it
was
pretty
fun
at
that
used
web
site
use
web
services
and
at
the
time
and
RDF,
and
full
to
create
profiles
of
the
impulses
that
you
are
having
with
people
cross
them
with
your
calendar
events
and
then
contextualise.
Those
encounters
and
upload
them
to
sort
of
like
a
social
network,
to
create
a
social
graph
without
any
user
just
by
user
encounters.
So
this
is
like
the
my
in
the
project
that,
in
the
past,
is
a
bit
more
relevant
to
this
area.
E
But
another
thing
that
I
would
like
to
try
to
do
here
is
basically
represent
that
beauty,
because
the
p2p
is
going
to
be
extremely
important
part
and
a
crucial
part
of
everything
that
we've
got.
This
working
group
plans
to
develop
so
I'd,
like
to
sort
of
like
be
that
person,
maybe
not
gateway
between
the
pizza
peon
and
this
way,
for
you
guys,
awesome.
F
My
name
is
Terry
Chadbourne
I
work
at
protocol
labs
as
a
community
manager
and
a
big
chunk
of
my
role
there.
It's
as
a
maintainer
for
proto
school,
which
is
a
community
that
is
trying
to
introduce
people
to
decentralized
web
concepts
and
a
really
friendly
and
inviting
and
beginner
friendly
way
and
I,
also
in
the
near
future,
will
be
managing
a
medium
publication
that
will
have
a
place
to
share
some
use
cases
and
stories
about
the
decentralized
web.
F
So
that's
one
thing
I
think
we
could
do
in
this
group
is
to
tell
some
of
those
to
kind
of
spread.
The
good
word
so
I'd
be
happy
to
help
with
that,
but
I
actually
know
a
lot
more
about
offline
first
than
I
do
about
decentralized,
I'm,
a
co-organizer
of
an
event
called
offline
camp
which
is
sort
of
a
tech
retreat
for
people
who
are
excited
about
making
stuff
work
offline
and
in
crappy
network
game
conditions.
F
So
that
includes
some
people
who
care
about
decentralized,
some
funny
who
don't
and
everyone's
welcome
and
just
sort
of
more
broadly
as
an
organizer
for
that
offline
first,
community
I
do
manage
a
publication
in
that
space
as
well,
which
is
also
a
place
as
we
wait
for
the
other
pub
to
get
set
up
that.
We
can
also
tell
some
of
those
online
first
stories
so
I'm
around.
If
anybody
has
too
much
to
tell
feel
free
to
ping
me
absolutely.
G
Hi
so
yeah
I
work
at
a
vertical,
mostly
as
a
collaborations
manager
person,
but
I
also
help
out
on
tear
pad.
So
when
Jim
works
on
and
we've
definitely
making
pushes
to
get
it
working
offline.
If
we
had
some
previous
recent
so
very
happy
about
that
also
Jonathan
I.
Just
follow
me
on
Twitter
and
I
shocked
that
I
didn't
already
it
seems
like.
We
should
be
like
very
connected
to
link
New
York
tech
world
like
SF
PC,
pretty
so
that's
them
so
nice
to
meet
you.
A
H
My
name
is
Karissa
a
project
lead
for
the
dot
project
and
for
the
past
year,
so
well,
just
a
quick
for
the
dot
project
is
like
a
peer-to-peer
sharing.
Protocol
similar
to
ipfs
I've
been
working
with
digital
democracy,
primarily
for
the
past
year
and
a
half
we
deploy
a
desktop
application
and
mobile
application
that
is
decentralized
and
offline
for
communities
in
Peru
and
Ecuador.
H
Mostly
they're
also
trying
to
expand
into
Colombian
Brazil,
Katie
and
Jana,
as
well
as
parts
of
Africa,
so
our
tools
work
mostly
offline.
They
require
some
like
initial
setup,
but
most
of
it
is
just
laptops
and
mobile
phones.
Only
there
are
no
like
servers
or
anything.
You
have
to
setup.
No
backpacks
kids
carry
anything
like
that,
just
just
the
devices
themselves,
they
talk
to
each
other
over
mdns
and
so
basically
we're
just
trying
to
get
a
bit
of
a
picture.
H
A
Awesome
cool
excited
to
have
you
in
this
farm
as
well.
So
let's,
let's
spend
a
little
bit
more
time,
I
think
in
kind
of
the
later
half
of
this
meeting,
talking
about
kind
of
like
opportunities
to
work
together
or
any
more
specific
questions
that
come
out
from
there,
but
also
wanted
to
spend
some
time
quickly.
Looking
over
the
queuing,
okay,
ours
that
we've
drafted
for
ourselves
to
make
sure
that
feel
good
about
them.
A
It's
working
group,
if
there's
any
other
things
that
kind
of
are
coming
up,
that
people
feel
like
they're
prioritizing
this
quarter
again
we're
kind
of
an
open
forum,
we're
happy
to
bring
in
more
key
results
that
people
are
going
to
be
delivering
and
that
are
aligned
with
the
work
we're
trying
to
do
so.
Let
me
just
share
my
screen
really
quickly
mm.
A
A
So
we
kind
of
have
three
main
buckets
in
our
in
our
okrs
right
now,
which
are
really
kind
of
related
to
the
charter
of
this
working
group,
which
is
one
forming
our
community
and
presence
and
we're.
Actually,
we
already
have
kind
of
one
reference
to
material
that
we've
published
as
a
working
group.
That's
kind
of
getting
good
visibility,
which
is
a
talk.
I
gave
it
the
London
ipfs
a
meet-up
last
quarter,
which
we
pub
to
YouTube
like
two
weeks
ago.
Now.
A
That's
gotten
93
views
as
of
when
I
checked
this
morning,
so
you
know
slowly
percolating
into
the
world.
People
are
starting
to
get
a
sense
of
what
we're
thinking
of
and
that
hopefully,
is
also
a
route
through
which
they
actually
come
and
start
chatting
to
us
as
a
working
group
so
again
forming
our
our
presence
and
community
is
the
first
objective.
A
The
next
is
kind
of
knitting,
our
research
process,
and
so
this
is
I
think
an
area
where
there's
awesome
opportunity
to
collaborate
across
the
number
of
organizations
which
is
doing
kind
of
a
census
of
the
many
many
applications
that
are
developing
in
this.
In
this
space
and
kind
of
the
pain
points
and
needs
and
taxonomy
of
how
they're
approaching
this
and
also
working
with
other
groups,
so,
for
example,
like
the
dynamic
theater
capabilities
group
and
other
other
areas,
maybe
lit
p2p
to
talk
about
like
actually
publishing
some
of
the
best
practices.
A
I
feel
like
that's
already
starting
to
happen,
which
is
great
organically
in
this
meeting.
But
terry
has
an
objective
around
actually
setting
a
date
for
the
next
offline
camp,
which
I'm
super
excited
to
attend
and
I'm.
Sure
many
people
in
this
forum
are
champing
at
the
bit
to
get
on
board
as
well,
but
also
engaging
with
other
organizations
to
make
sure
that,
as
we
boot
this
group
and
do
this
research
that
we're
learning
from
their
best
practices
and
collaborating
as
much
as
possible.
A
So
anyone
has
you
know,
that's
kind
of
walking
through
what
we
have
it's
very
similar
to
what
we
had
at
the
end
of
last
quarter.
Anyone
have
any
ideas,
edits,
Corrections,
suggestions,
stuff
that
they're
working
on
that
they
want
to
see
documented
here
or
do
they
want
to
add
themselves
as
like,
hey
I
want
to
help
contribute
to
some
of
these.
These
efforts.
Would
you
like
a
quick
update
on.
F
Mine
would
love
one
that'd
be
great,
so
as
I'm
a
one
of
four
or
five
co-organizers
for
offline
camp
and
between
us,
we've
had
conversations
with
a
few
companies
already
who
may
be
interested
in
sponsoring
offline
camp
or
collaborating
in
various
ways
so
excited
about
that
I.
Don't
think
any
of
them
so
far
have
been
specifically
interested
in
decentralized,
but
we
love
the
support
for
offline
first
in
general,
which
is
the
focus
of
this
event.
F
So
that's
been
really
nice
to
see,
and
also
this
one
goes
towards
the
there's
one
about
publishing
the
reference
materials
one
on
line
six
so
I
know.
Molly
has
an
article
in
mind
that
will
probably
put
out
through
the
offline
first
publication
kind
of
building
on
the
talk
that
she
gave
recently,
but
I
also
reached
out
to
Jonah
at
project
Lantern
and
he's
planning
to
connect
me
not
immediately,
but
once
things
slowed
down
a
little
over
there
with
someone
on
their
team
who
may
be
able
to
write
something.
F
A
A
E
I
do
want
to
say
I'm
pretty
excited
about
row,
11
performing
the
census
of,
what's
out
there
currently
and
finding
its
economy
that
week
such
that
we
can
classify
exactly
in
the
structured
manner
what
these
projects
are
are
currently
working
on
and
how
we
can
best
support
them
and
how
we
can
all
collaborate.
That
I
think
that's
going
to
be
a
great
strategy
for
for
a
lot
of
discussions
as
well,
then
finding
gaps
in
the
space
as
well,
that
you
know
potential
initiatives
might
help
to
fill
in.
A
Absolutely
I
think
there's
there's
good
opportunity
there
also
to
collaborate,
some
of
the
work
that
our
kadhi
has
been
doing,
just
trying
to
reach
out
to
lots
of
people
in
the
ipfs
ecosystem.
Who
are
you
know
using
that
tooling,
for
a
whole
ton
of
different
phases,
like
offline
use
case
in
particular,
is
an
area
that
maybe
we
can
collaborate
on
doing
that
on
ramp
and
sourcing.
Back,
like
the
the
findings
we
have
of
what
pain
points
are
to
kind
of
kill
two
birds
with
one
stone.
A
We
can
both
take
advantage
of
those
insights
awesome
well
given,
given
we
don't
have
any
burning,
like
corrections
to
make
love
that
we
have
enthusiasm
at
this,
but
I
think
well
consider
our
okay
ours
finalized
for
this
quarter
and
we're
you
know
already
and
in
flight
on
actually
executing
on
them,
which
is
great
but
I'll
update.
Our
okay
are
using
check
mark
we're
we're
good
to
go
from
our
cue
and
okay.
A
Our
perspective,
which
is
great
so
switching
back
to
kind
of
the
next
item
of
business
I,
did
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
and
understand
from
folks
who
may
be
more
from
an
application.
Perspective
have
been
thinking
about
kind
of
the
the
needs
for
the
peer
to
peer
discovery
and
truly
since
there
was
this
conversation
that
started
a
little
bit
last
week,
around
Bluetooth
Inlet
p2p
and
that's
gonna
be
continuing
on
this
week
or
so
Jonathan
others
in
the
application
space.
A
If
you
have
learnings
or
insights
around
from
kind
of
peer
to
peer,
no
discovery
perspective.
What
sort
of
transports
you
found
really
useful
or
have
been
difficult
would
be
useful
to
encapsulate
those
perspectives
into
what
we've
been
talking
about.
They're
kind
of
the
two
main
use
cases
I've
been
seeing
in
my
head.
Trying
to
bucket
them
is
one
kind
of
like
the
DAP
use
case
of
you
have
two
two
nodes
with,
for
example:
maybe
textiles,
a
good
example
where
you
have
like
this
mobile
photo
sharing
application.
A
You
have
two
nodes
and
they
both
go
offline,
and
then
they
are.
They
happen
to
be
within
Bluetooth
distance
of
each
other
or
they're
actually
on
the
same
partitions
network,
so
they're
not
connected
to
the
rest
of
the
network,
but
they're,
both
in
the
same
area.
How
do
I
using
the
same
DAP
that
you
know
maybe
already
is
configured
in
some
way,
finding
these
two
nodes
and
enable
them
to
form
a
channel
and
share
content
back
and
forth.
A
It
would
be
great
if,
instead
of
having
to
open
this
file
on
every
single
one
of
my
offline
devices
before
I
go
on
my
plane
flight,
then
I
could,
just
you
know,
make
sure
it's
cached
on
one
and
then
magically
get
access
to
all
of
the
same
content
from
every
different
one
of
my
devices
or
anyone
who
is
nearby
with
me.
So
those
are
two
to
use
case.
I
have
been
thinking
about.
Are
there
others
that
are
in
your
and
dear
to
people's
hearts
that
don't
seem
to
fit
into
that
space?.
H
You
yeah
so
when
working
with
communities,
primarily
that
exists
entirely
offline,
so
villages
in
the
middle
of
the
jungle
or
it
takes
like
eight
hours
on
a
canoe
to
get
there
and
they've
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
with
collecting
data
about
oil
spills
and
also
doing
mapping
of
their
territories
like
animal
tracks
and
things
that
are
in
the
jungle,
and
it's
really
important
for
all
of
this
stuff
to
work
offline
and
also
be
able
to
synchronize
the
same
sets
of
data
and
changes
to
that
data
in
a
two-way
fashion.
H
So
not
just
thinking
about,
like
my
personal
data
being
accessible
when
I'm
offline,
but
actually
being
able
to
change
data
while
I'm
offline
and
then
synchronize
those
changes
of
someone
else,
who's
potentially
change
the
same
exact
data
while
they're
offline.
This
is
a
case
similar
to
get
or
other
kinds
of
version
control.
H
E
Another
one
that
I'm
thinking
about
is
particularly
for
these
four
locations
and
so
on
that
are
potentially
within
this
context.
That
curry
says,
is
describing
collecting
data
or
are
generating
data
in
isolated
locations
as
they
travel
around
it
potentially
in
country
right
and
in
common
contact.
They
come
in
view
of
other
devices
that
are
able
to
transport
that
data
further
on
advanced
one
point
where
it
can
be
connected.
This
is
very
similar
to
sneak
Annette's.
E
H
For
this
for
years,
we're
using
USB
sticks
primarily
for
one
of
the
things
that
we
really
want
and
don't
have,
is
a
way
to
read
and
write
data
from
the
node
process
directly
to
a
USB
that
is
inserted
into
the
micro
USB
on
the
phone.
So
in
Latin
America,
it's
really
common
for
people
to
have
a
USB
stick
that
has
a
micro
USB
on
one
side
and
regular
USB.
That
goes
in
the
computer
on
the
other.
H
So
you
can
stick
that
micro
USB
into
one
phone
put
the
data
onto
it
and
then
put
that
into
a
computer.
On
the
other
side,
there
aren't
really
good
libraries
for
doing
that
right
now,
pretty
much
as
it
has
to
be
written
in
Java
to
write
data
directly.
There
also
I
think
for
serial
serializing
data
to
disk
and
then
reading
it
back
out,
we've
kind
of
created
our
own
ad
hoc
methods
for
doing
that
over
hyper
core,
which
is
a
different
thing
for
my
PFS,
but
maybe
that's
something
that
you
might
be
interested
in.
H
A
Gotcha,
thank
you
and
are
most
of
so
Krista
you.
You
have
mostly
kind
of
like
a
setup
that
has
like
some
some
Bruce
and
mobile
phones
and
summer.
Some
laptops
is,
are
those
all
like
recent
enough
devices
that
they're
Bluetooth
enabled
because
I
know,
there's
definitely
a
problem
in
some
areas
of
the
offline
world
in
which
even
Bluetooth
isn't
something
that
you
can
expect
most
mobile
phones
to
be
enabled
with
yeah.
H
Yeah,
you
think
about
it
as
over.
For
us
it's
we
work
with
particular
partners,
more
people
who
are
you
know
under-resourced.
Maybe
they
can't
buy
their
own
phone
at
all,
so
we
provide
people
with
phones
to
provide
them
with
later.
You
know
$100,
g4s
or
whatever,
but
they
still
they're,
pretty
good,
actually
I
Bluetooth
in
pretty
good
GPS
as
well.
A
E
Totally
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
It's
7
or
2.
I
would
say
the
concept
of
airdrop
as
well
on
Macs
right,
where
you
can
always
like
have
use
a
Internet
service
to
transfer
that
data
across
those
two
devices.
But
if
you
happen
to
be
colonized
and
drop,
just
magically
works
right.
So
it's
somewhat
similar
to
that
yeah.
H
F
If
I
don't
remember,
if
I
mentioned
this
on
the
previous
call,
but
at
one
of
the
offline
camps
recently,
some
of
the
attendees
built
something
they
called
pure
drop,
which
is
for
all
devices,
not
just
mac
related
for
related
stuff,
which
was
kind
of
cool.
So
it
was
built
using
some
sort
of
peer-to-peer
stuff.
I
could
try
to
find
the
link
if
anyone's
interested,
I'm
interested.
A
D
You
know
the
like.
F-Droid
is
kind
of
interesting
because
you
can
just
have
files
on
USB
sticks
and
share
it
that
way,
and
you
can
share
from
your
clone
to
another
like
if
two
people
are
on
the
local
network
and
they
have
a
thread
open,
they
can
actually
share
applications
to
each
other,
so
figuring
out
ways
like.
What's
the
minimum
assumption
we
can
make,
both
of
like
certain
phones
like
mobile
devices
and
computers
or
like
constraints
around
okay,
I
want
to
make
I
want
to
hear
drop
right
but
like
how
do
they
get
here?
D
Talk
to
my
friend
or
I
want
to
check,
but
I
don't
want
them
to
have
to
like
download
and
install
like
it's
command-line
tools.
Just
to
you
know
or
like
open
up
the
app
store
so
figuring
out.
You
know
like
what
exists
already
on
these
operating
systems.
That
could
be
like
the
entry
point
for
sharing
these
really
cool
applications
that,
when
you
know
we're
on
this,
video
call
I
can
go
and
open
tab
at
the
top
left
of
tab
and
then
download
and
try
all
these
things
right.
A
You
have
running
on
your
machine,
which
means
that,
even
if
that
website
disappears
or
changes
the
article
or
takes
article
down,
you
still
have
that,
like
readable
article
format
being
hosted
like
pinned
on
your
own
local
machine
benefit.
It
also
means
that
if
you
go
offline-
and
you
want
to
read
that
content
like
you-
can
continue
to
access
that
and
effectively
your
entire
to
read.
Pocket
list
is
pre
cached
offline
for
you,
which
is
super
cool
and
then
I
was
thinking.
Well,
it
would
be
really
great
if
it
wasn't
just.
A
D
So
and
mdns
is
kind
of
interesting
for
this
right
like
if,
if
you
have
a
personal
home
page,
and
that
is
just
a
collection
of
things,
you'd
like
to
share
with
people
locally-
and
you
know,
you're
running
a
web
server
on
whatever
device
that
you
have
simply
you
like
advertising
to
the
network
in
any
number
of
ways
right.
So
you
can
first
have
ties
that,
like
oh
there's,
a
web
server
running
and
here's
the
the
name
of
that
server
and
just
like
your
local,
laptop
or
phone.
D
But
you
can
get
even
more
like
I,
don't
want
to
say
invasive,
but
more.
We're
sharing
like
more
brightly
sharing
by
like
running
a
Samba
file
server
and
that
will
show
up
in
people's
like
windows
like
in
finder
in
Nautilus
and
in
Windows
Explorer.
You
can
like
see
the
share
there
and-
and
you
know
it's
another
like
kind
of
side
channel
right-
that's
not,
but
it,
but
it
comes
with
the
operating
system
and
it's
kind
of
assumed
to
be
there
and
you
can
just
figure
out
ways
that
you
want
to
have
shortcuts.
D
It's
a
second
radio,
so
you
don't
need
to
necessarily
like
if
you
are
connected
to
a
network
over
Wi-Fi,
like
that.
This
is
just
like
a
side
channel,
but
almost
everything
I've
seen
on
Bluetooth
that
isn't
like
a
crazy
hack
and
correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong,
cuz
I
haven't
done
a
lot
of
Bluetooth
work,
look
like
they.
They
require,
like
a
very
clear
I,
am
connecting
to
device
a
I'm
connecting
to
device
B.
Now
what
our
capabilities,
where
is
like
and
being
us
kind
of,
does
that?
Yes,.
C
H
D
H
And
it's
you
know:
it's
I
think
it
was
mostly
created
for,
like
sports
fitness
stuff,
originally
like
my
watch
or
something
like
that,
but
you
can
also
send
data
over
it.
People
are
starting
to
hack
that
and
that's
what
the
many
verse
that
I
was
talking
about
before
the
mobile
app
that
incorporates
Bluetooth
is
doing
with
Auto
discovery.
I
haven't
tried
it
myself,
but
they
do
say
it
has
Auto
discovery
and
some
data,
but
not
a
lot
of
headache.
D
It
fell
back
to
Roo
tooth
for
communication,
and
it
just
worked
regardless
of
the
partitions
we
created
locally,
and
that
was
pretty
impressive,
because
I
haven't
seen
you
know
anything
else
do
that.
So
it
would
be
interesting
to
see
if
it's
using
auto-discovery
and
bluetooth
or
there's
something
else
that
I
wrote
do.
A
C
Think
that's
the
pier
pad
it's
it's
a
way
of
arranging
the
CR,
DTS
or
building
collaborative
apps,
and
you
know
it
gives
you
all
the
you
know.
You
need
that
ability
when
you're
gone
online
and
offline
and
people
are
editing
the
same
document
and
kind
of
seeing
things
together.
So
I
I
think
one
of
the
main
selling
features
to
get
people
interested
in
in
peer
base,
which
is
the
library
underneath
your
pad,
is
going
to
be
talking
about
the
offline
use
case
and
getting
some
really
easy
to
to
use
demos.
C
A
Actually,
do
you
want
to
describe
the
the
dev
effort
you
were
doing
to
make
it
so
that
you're
kind
of
listening
for
up
like
new
pure
pad
files
that
come
online
and
caching
them
such
that?
If
the
device
that
wrote
the
set
of
notes
goes
offline,
but
they've
shared
the
link
with
someone
else,
they
can
kind
of
stay
being
hosted.
Even
if
the
original
creator
is
offline,
yeah.
C
The
the
the
previous
projects
are
done.
We're
done
offline,
we're
not
trying
to
do
like
separate
channels
of
communication
while
offline,
so
it's
just
sort
of
be
a
classic.
You
know
put
your
plate,
your
phone
in
airplane
mode
be
able
to
edit
the
documents
you
know
come
back
online
in
sync,
so
there's
the
whole
whole
other
aspect
to
using
like
Bluetooth
or
something
to
connect
with
decree
upon
the
on-the-fly
ad
hoc
networks.
If
that's
not
something
that's
exploit.
A
Yeah
but
kind
of
the
the
relay
server,
but
you
guys
had
had
set
up
to,
for
example,
like
I,
create
this
and
if
I
am
connected
to
the
rest
of
the
night,
when
I
create
something
even
if
I
go
offline
and
I'm
no
longer
seating,
the
pure
pad
file,
there
is
another
dev
server.
That's
like
listening
and
real
a.
C
Pear
pad,
specifically,
we
have
a
concept
of
a
pin
er
which
so,
which
you
know
you
write
your
document
and
it'll
sink
it
to
the
pin
ER,
and
it
tells
you
a
little
notification
there.
It's
been
synced
and
then
you
know
you
can
go
offline
because
you
might
want
to
edit
the
same
document
as
somebody
else,
but
might
not
be
online
at
the
same
time.
So
you
really
really
need.
C
A
Feel
like
all
right,
the
way
that
I've
seen
you
guys
do
this
more
from
like
a
UX
perspective
of
like
messaging.
This
offline
transfer
is
particularly
you
know.
It's
highlighting
this
this
shifting
model
of
like
oh,
it's
not
about
one
single
server
that
like
I,
must
be
connected
to
at
all
times,
and
it's
like
this
binary
online
offline.
But
it's
kind
of
these
two
layers
of
like
it
has
you
know
it's
saving
to
my
device,
it's
you
know
being
replicated
by
some
other
network
and
then
it's
being
seen
by
other
nodes
that
are
collaborating
yeah.
C
I
think
that's
the
the
UX
challenge
is
gonna,
be
really
I.
Think
the
UX
challenge
has
to
go
hand
in
hand
with
like
teaching
people
the
concepts,
because,
like
literacy,
because
people
are
used
to
standard
client-server
model,
there's
a
website
of
hosted
in
the
data
center
somewhere,
and
they
just
assume
that
they've
entered
stuff
in
the
web
form
and
it's
all
saved
for
them,
but
in
in
a
true
creative
peer
model
like
who's
running
the
infrastructure
like
everybody's
running
the
infrastructure
like.
C
If,
if
the
Pinner
is
not
there,
you
can
still
collaborate,
but
but
the
data
might
not
be
around
if
everybody's
not
online.
So
how
do
people
people
need
to
understand
that?
And
if
the
UI
is
not
clear
about
it,
if
the
UI
is
trying
to
make
it
look
like
it's,
the
classic
web
model,
I
think
that's
almost
like
an
injustice
like
people
will
assume
that
their
data
is
safe
or
that
their
data
is
getting
where
they
think
their
data
is
getting.
C
B
C
But
but
then
we
do
have
these
pinners,
which
are
sort
of
servers.
So
it's
sort
of
confusing
in
some
ways
but
like
the
Pinner
is
not
like
your
classic
web
service,
the
the
Pinner
only
stores
encrypted
content,
the
Pinner
knows
nothing
like
you
can't
access
the
the
content
without
the
keys,
so
it's
like
people
have
to
sort
of
understand
key
management
it
just
like
I
I.
Don't
want
to
try
to
explain
this
to
my
parents
yeah.
Maybe
it's
six
months
right
now,
I've
been.
F
We've
had
a
lot
of
cool
proposals
recently
for
more
advanced
tutorials,
where
I
feel
like
there's
a
little
bit
of
scaffolding
messaging
and
someone
else
as
I
was
talking
about
a
different
tutorial
recently
someone
else's
yeah,
but
the
pinyon
thing
is
gonna,
be
confusing
and
they'll
think
it's
this
way,
and
it's
not
so
that's
something
that
might
be
interesting
to
kind
of
build
a
layer
in
in
the
offline
first,
like
offline
camp,
we've
talked
a
lot
about
this
sort
of
the
user
experience
of
being
offline.
In
here
it's
even
more
complicated
with
being
decentralized.
F
A
I'd
be
really
interested
in
engaging
in
that
conversation.
Terry
I've
been
trying
to
wrap
my
own
head
around
all
of
the
different
pinning
models
that
IP
of
us
supports
and
I'm
sure,
there's
even
other
examples
in
in
other
parts
of
the
distributed
kind
of
space
of
how
to
think
about
this
and
how
to
think
about
which
pinning
strategy
would
make
the
most
sense
for
your
application
or
your
personal
need,
or
whatever
it
is,
and
and
how
to
reason
about
that.
A
Given
what
are
coming,
some,
like
obvious
things
that
you
would
think
of,
but
how
to
translate
it
into
what
you
need
technically
you're
set
up.
It's
like
something
I've
been
thinking
about
and
would
love
to.
You
know
think
about
that
in
the
space
with
other
humans
who
have
their
their
own
perceptions
and
ideas.
Yeah.
F
C
Yeah,
specifically,
the
pinning
like
peering
into
the
future,
the
way
I
think
it's
going
to
end
up
working.
Is
this
going
to
be
it's
going
to
actually
tie
into
your
like
identity
like
when
you
go
on
your
phone
you'd,
be
like
all
the
apps
all
the
websites
and
things
you
into
act
with
that
are
distributed?
C
They'll
connect
to
your
your
identity.
Somehow
or
your
look?
You
might
have
like
a
box
at
home
that
you
store
all
your
files
on
and
you
just
every
every
after
you
want
to
use
the
files
somehow
get
the
pin
back
at
home,
but
you
might
be
like
you
might
work
for
a
company
and
your
company
might
be
safe,
hey
everything
you
work
on
at
work.
We
will
also
keep
replicas
of
it
around
and
there's
going
to
be
have
to
be
like
these
sort
of
little
channels
connected
and
I.
C
Think
when
the
when
the
whole
future
sort
of
happens,
its
people
will
have,
people
will
need
to
understand
the
concepts
for
when
it
goes
wrong.
But
if
everything
goes
right,
they
won't
really
have
to
deal
with
it
like
just
be
sort
of
like
they
can
be.
Really
sort
of
lazy
without
they've
managed
to
data,
so
that's
sort
of
the
dream.
H
H
If
you
have
the
key
somewhere
to
open
it
later
so
trying
to
I
think
that
you're
right
in
that
way
that
there
is
going
to
be
some
knowledge
of
key
management
that
will
have
to
be
at
least
in
this
stage,
have
to
be
have
to
be
known,
but
it
can
be
kind
of
explained
like
if
there's
a
safe
with
your
data
somewhere,
you
kind
of
have
to
keep
the
key.
You
might
want
to
keep
a
copy
of
your
key
somewhere
like
under
your
bed
or
something
I,
don't
like
you.
E
This
discussion
that
we
having
and
the
way
that
we
started
talking
about
transports,
we
continue
talking
about
services.
We
continue
talking
about
you
X
and
we're
talking
about
the
data
plane
itself.
You
know
it's
making
me
think
that
really
we
should
be
striving
to
maybe
conceptualize
a
stack
of
reference
stock
so
that
we
can
have
discussions
that
target.
You
know
specific
areas
and
these
areas
can
evolve
and
we
can
tease
out
what's
behind
them,
what
what's
available?
E
What
is
the
state
of
BR
and
what
are
the
projects
that
have
addressed
or
no
normal
aspects
in,
for
example,
but
they
complain,
you
know
it
can
date
in
the
data
frame
can
revolve
around
Pinner
services
can
revolve
around
a
number
of
things:
federated
services
whatever
and
I
got.
There
are
so
many
approaches,
so
many
architectures
behind
and
de
science
behind
these
things
that
it
might-
and
maybe
this
is
what
you're
hinting
like.
Maybe
it
ties
into
the
concept
of
autonomy
as
well
for
projects
right
so
I'm
thinking
about
I
gets
coming
to
my
mind.
D
I'm
sure
that
everyone
has
a
different
picture
in
their
head
when
they
hear
the
word
pin,
based
on
their
personal
interactions,
with
pinning
things
based
on.
You
know
how
they
think
about
the
technology
itself
and
its
influence.
Ingrid
Barrington
gave
a
lot
of
really
good
classes
on
thinking
about
networks.
D
Her
and
Sir
Ian
Maffeo
who's,
an
interesting
artist
and
researcher
that
had
Pete
that
I
ran
through
their
class
like
they
shared
they
published
their
class
and
then
I
went
and
I
being
taught
it
to
a
bunch
of
high
schoolers
or
no,
they
were
middle
school
yeah.
They
were
really
young.
That
was
thinking
about
networking
and
thinking
about
networks
and,
like
we
started
with
like
pipe
cleaners
and
like
foam
blocks
and
modeled
out
the
physical
like
what
is
connecting
and
how
they're
connecting
and
then
talked
about,
okay.
So
then,
what
are
you
actually
sharing?
D
You
know
like
it
might
be,
sharing
a
picture
from
your
phone.
It
might
be
sharing
your
location
whatever
how
that
gets
someplace,
and
then
there
is
definitely
space
within
that
modeling
exercising
within
that
class.
To
talk
about
you
know
or
to
at
least
introduce
the
concepts
not
like
describe
the
entire
thing,
but
introduce
the
concept
of
you
know.
D
This
is
to
talk
about
power
structures
and
how
they
reflect
like
physicality
of
spaces,
but
the
at
the
end
of
it.
The
students
had
a
much
stronger
like
or
team
knowledge
of
you
know
broadcasting
SSIDs
and
what
it
means
to
connect
to
a
network,
and
things
like
that
didn't
they
didn't
seem
to
trip
up
on
me
like
individual
concepts.
Some
months
I.
A
Think
this
a
really
question
they're
like
what
are
the
base
underlying
concepts
that
we
can
really
easily
transfer
to
users
of
these
networks,
that
just
like
feels
intuitive
and
what
things
can
we,
like?
You
know,
managed
to
hide
under
the
hood
and
not
force
all
of
the
users
of
these
tools
to
have
to
think
about
in
their
heads,
because
there's
definitely
there's
some
stuff
that,
like
it's,
gonna,
need
to
be
exposed.
A
Otherwise,
you're
never
going
to
be
able
to
debug
your
system
and
figure
out
what's
going
wrong,
but
there's
a
lot
of
complexity
here
and
I.
Think
there's
there's
like
a
line.
We're
gonna
have
to
walk
in
best
practices
for
these
tools
to
communicate
the
right
subset
of
things
that
make
things
intuitive
and
have
the
like
an
easy
to
approach.
Understanding
of
how
things
are
working.
D
Now
I
would
just
stay
away
from
metaphors
as
much
as
possible
because,
like
it's
really
easy,
while
teaching
to
underestimate
the
ability
of
the
people
who
are
learning
and
to
try
and
that
that
feeling
to
try
and
hide
the
complexity,
because
you
know
it's
okay,
to
give
like
misinformation
in
the
sense
that,
like
you're,
sharing
an
incomplete
picture
of
what's
happening.
But
to
you
know
it's
great.
If
one
of
the
students
says
that's,
you
know,
that's
not
wholly
correct,
or
they
discover
later
that
you
you
write
about
what
a
file
was.
D
You
know
like
like
a
really
good
exercise
is
to
answer
the
question.
What
is
a
file
right?
I
got
asked
this
in
one
of
my
classes,
and
it
was
the
best
class
I
ever
had
because,
like
I
thought,
I
had
a
good
grasp
on
a
lot
of
file
ones,
and
there
are
so
many
ways
to
think
about
it
and
so
many
ways
to
share
that
thinking
and
explore
it.
D
That,
like
you
know
some
students,
were
you
know,
let's
open
up
a
file
in
like
let's
open
up
the
sound
file
in
paint,
and
it's
like
open
up
this
picture
in
audacity
and
like
to
start
like
just
changing
bits
and
the
text
editor
and
really
just
like
what
does
it
mean
to
you
know,
have
a
name
for
a
file.
Where
is
that
store
like
all
these
things?
E
E
A
So
we're
just
just
about
out
of
time
we've
one
minute
left
but
kind
of
another
item
that
I've
pulled
out
from
this
conversation
is
that
we
kind
of
need
taxonomy,
x'
on
two
different
layers,
there's
a
taxonomy
of
like
understanding
the
many
different
and
use
cases
that
offline
applications
are
trying
to
support
and
seeing
if
we
can
cluster
some
of
those
in
the
method
by
which
they're
trying
to
solve
these
needs
and
then
the
taxonomy
of
like
the
stack
itself
and
how
to
reason
about
different
components
of
those
applications.
In
a
way
that
we
can.
A
You
know
talk.
For
example,
the
one
that
comes
to
mind
is
like
the
ipfs
ecosystem
of
things
and
like
where
the
thin
waist
is
and
this
protocol
and
which
things
you
can
plug
and
play
kind
of
one-to-one
versus.
Like
you
know,
you
need
something
at
this
layer
of
the
stack
and
you
need
to
choose
something.
How
do
you
make
that
choice
and
what
are
the
pros
and
cons
of
the
various
options
you
can
slot
in?
A
There
sounds
like
we
need
to
find
a
way
to
reason
ourselves
and
name
these
things
so
that
we
can
communicate
effectively
so
I've
added
those
na
and
needs
from
this
group
in
queue.
One
section
I
think
we're
well,
maybe
I'll,
try
and
book
some
time
time
with
you
to
just
brainstorm
what
some
of
these
things
might
be
and
kind
of
fleshed
out
a
little
bit
more,
but
I
thought
this
was
awesome.
Thank
you
all
so
much
for
a
fantastic
second
weekend
meeting
and
looking
forward
to
our
next
one
in
February.