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From YouTube: GSoC SIG Meeting: 2019 application status review and Q&A

Description

Regular GSoC meeting. We will review the GSoC 2019 application status and address questions from students/mentors

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And where life hi everybody welcome to the google Summer of Code status meeting we have meetings every week and on the sent up on the project status on the application, and at this time we decided to record this meeting so that we look for some Kony and guidelines for students.

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I'll share my screen so that you can find the links if you want to join okay. This is my screen. Yes, okay, thank you!

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Jenkins CIA / ji Seok seek, and here you may see, a link to the ongoing hangout session. If you have any questions, you can just follow the link and join the discussion. There are all Semitic notes for the today's meeting clay. We have a few topics in the agenda. I would like to give a quick update about JSOC 2019. Then, let's have Kony from our managers and students give the rainy open sessions, and then we will review all of project, IDs application, dogs and sync up on our action items.

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Something like this. It doesn't mean you want to it more topics to the agenda.

B

This is good for me, like Auggie,.

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So, let's start from this topic, one interesting thing: that molester day we have got announcement of google Summer of Code. If you'll go to the website, you may see that okay, that is a JSOC landing site. You may see that there is timeline and you may see that the deadline is set to February 6, but even now, organizations can apply and actually, as a JSOC orchid mean I have already created organization profile. I haven't put the information yet, but I invited to all orchid means so Marty and Jeff.

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Oh lord, please join you may actually we are waiting only for Jeff, but we need at least tour coming to apply. So we are more or less good here and our next steps would be to fill the organization, application and organization and profile, but the good news is that we already have all the documents, or at least a draft of all documents posted on our website.

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So if people hear that we are setting to juice, op 2009 implication draft, it includes all the information we need to submit to Google and I would appreciate any feedback from all participants.

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If you see something missing or if you want to propose changes, please comment in this Google or on this page and let us know- or you can just propose full request and we will accumulate them. So there are definitely some changes we need to make before you reapply, but anyway, Mallis ready to submit the application and I propose to do it. Maybe today or tomorrow after we discuss the application Docs. So we have a draft in place and we place it with our stuff.

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So yeah, it's a quick update and you may have seen that we already started getting some queries in our mailing list from students. It happened because jae-seok 2019 has been also announced for students, and now they explore organizations in 2018 and they see Jenks organization there and we navigated to our resources and asked questions. So please be prepared to have more queries from students over the next week's, and this is what was our goal, so the dark mode for jae seok ends, and now there will be a lot more public communications, so yeah.

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This is a cup deed. So yeah your sock starts.

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That's all I wanted to say about it and it'll return to the application documents later. If there is no questions, we can just actually start with a discussion of topics. We have some lenders and students on the call, so we can press it really bear questions and then we return to the application side.

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So do we have any other topics to discuss, especially we need.

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Music yourself.

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Christian Bhutan: do you have any questions as mentors.

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No I think we're okay from my side, I'm excited that students are doing or starting to contact us. It's good yeah.

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I started preparing a list of active students: I have ten names, there was a lot of mine. Earthquake is happening, so that's cool, and actually, even now we have more project IDs than in 2016 and 2018 altogether.

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So I hope we are good. We also have a lot of mentors and we will be publishing more project ideas because not all of them have been published so far and I think we are really good this year and let's try to get much four feet in terms of contributions and in terms of fun, of course, because it is so close. No, but you need to have a lot of interesting activities for everybody.

C

Definitely I also talked to some of the the Evergreen team and it's like I know they were. They wanted to do some stuff or have some project ideas, so hopefully they're still able to kind of draft something quickly and have another opportunity to have something.

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C

There for a proposal, but I, know that they're not they haven't done that yet so yeah yeah.

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Regarding the timelines yeah, we are still open for any kinds of project ideas from more students or from potential mentors.

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It would be highly preferable to have project ideas proposed by February so that we put them on our website until the application period finishes, but actually now it's the interest of mentors to propose their IDs as soon as possible, because longer, if great ideas are available on the website, they'll get more traffic, they have more questions and you get a better chance to get students.

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So we invite all mentors to say in project IDs as soon as possible so that we have it on postage. Definitely.

C

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And yeah having evergreen idea would be definitely fine. So, let's see evergreen can generally benefit from many of existing project ideas. For example, cloud features for external workspace manager. It can be used in their evergreen right away. I haven't, unfortunately, I have missed their cognitive shift meeting on Monday, but Jeff Pierce was there. So maybe he'll summarize his discussion later. But here such ideas can be easily adopted to projects like evergreen.

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So any other questions. Yes,.

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Would like to I'm gonna try to attend the.

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The meeting today with Andrew Wow, which one is it pipeline authoring and so with pipeline authoring I, was hoping to get closure on the discussion that has happened. Regarding the rest, api plugins Jessie made some recommendation on how to proceed with those plugins, but he also alluded into the Jenkins execution engine. So I want to see if the pipeline authoring people have more have more to say on that, but is there other topics? I should bring to that meeting to the pipeline authoring submitting it.

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May make sense to just talk them about the project ideas. We were discussing some potential project ideas like.

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Pipeline doc, I mentioned for a generation of pipeline documentation, it's a epilogue to the project Idun Christine head, so maybe it would be one of the angles to discuss and yeah actually whatever pipeline project. It's something people do and I see that there are also some questions may be related to pipeline. Maybe not I haven't processed them yet, but yet having pipeline proposals and especially proposals around development tools is something which could help the project a lot. So if you have Mantle's less, let's have such project ideas.

B

Okay, so I'll pitch, the J's are funny 19 as well.

C

Yeah I mentioned something on their channel, but I never seem to get any type of response. They only have meetings every once in a while. So it's not as figured. There was a lot of things that that group could do, but.

A

Yeah, it's a it's not actual battle sometimes, but it helps to build awareness about JSOC and even if we take a list of current project ideas. Yes, a lot of these project ideas have been created by JSOC orchid means acting as champions, not all of them but mania. But you see we have a lot of potential mentors who are interested in the ideas. So if you christian or if you marcin, I interested in particular ever you can just drop a quick write up about.

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If your project idea and propose this write-up in may, it may already help because so then we they people just need to say. Ok, I like that. I will be interested in that. Please sign me up. It may be even more efficient that just my opinion for random project ideas. Oh.

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So it's just to give you an idea. I did the same today at the configuration as code median condom moaning. Can you believe her? There was also discussion at cloud native seek median so yeah. If we continue talking to people, we may get more people interested speaking to the project's.

D

Yeah I made a quick pitch at the cloud needed cig meeting I.

D

There was what what question somebody asked what the time line was and I said that we need ideas now, probably in February is when students will start contacting us I the silence, as maybe they're, not being a lot of interest right now, so probably probably good to keep pitching it. I guess: mmm-hmm.

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Yes, only to wish that recording called this meeting, because yeah I'm interested to understand what is a general trend for Jenkins sex and cloud native Jenkins, as we were discussing at the last meeting, carry it can be significantly influencing what you would like to propose in this area, because now there is no change in sex proposals. We would be interested to facilitate the discussion and to have some but yeah. It would be nice to understand the back start, taking them by its maintainer. So.

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Slight James about that I didn't hear back I'm, not able to attend their meetings. um Someone else want to attend, and I did add just generally for project ideas into their attend. Their ongoing agenda and my understand is their meetings- are, has been every other week for an hour. There is thinking of switching it to every week for half an hour and they're meeting tentatively are about demoing their progress work in progress and what their deliverables are. So it's more at home, tactical in nature,.

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Yeah I'm not so it would be great to keep poking them so yeah, let's see, maybe we'll have some outcome. The garden called native special interest job actually I would say that, even if nobody is interested, we have some proposals. We should definitely target this area, so cloud features for external workspace manager. Then we have external fingerprint storage, which is a mapping of pluggable storage and remote in coverage. Cough I believe it also falls into the area of cloud native ship.

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So yeah was about sending an email to the Sigma linked list and listing project ideas. We already have any progress, so maybe it could facilitate some discussion, so I'll try to do it tomorrow.

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Okay, anything goes here.

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Okay, I assume, not if you have any questions etc. Let's discuss them at the end of the meeting, so we will have some time. Let's take a look at our action items so box.

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So it's still open, I haven't done it yet.

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It's totally migrate and my technical depth then I regarding card i6, so we are starting combated and hard-wearing any special interest groups. We got in hard Wendy. We already have two projects regarding ran by did seek. We do not have projects so far, but I have some ideas. So maybe we will also raise this topic, but yeah basics will be published this week, all of them actually approved by now and yeah, creating checklist. It's also something on my table.

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Jeff I have a question to you about the expense report.

D

Yeah I I still need to submit that I'm. Sorry.

A

Yeah well, there is no temperature, but it would be nice to get it finally finished yeah.

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Okay regarding the rest of action items, so we had an action item to support published status with a Google Doc as a body so with something we have actually done. So, if you take a look at our proposals, many proposals have been published as Google Books, for example, working hours plug-in it's a project idea from Jeff.

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So now we Justin but Google Doc in the application, and we can see that it is a published document and the biggest advantage that students can just go here and say, for example, okay, Santa, like that, what is react, and actually you can discuss project ideas just from the application documents and project ideas. Page you don't need to navigate anywhere and I believe it's quite helpful and we also have many increased charts and the references on each project idea.

A

So I think I think that this format is generally fine and from the we do not even need to bother be so moving this project ideas to their asciidoc form. What do you think guys? I.

C

Think the really cool thing, it's very nice that we can directly students get asked directly what they have questions about and then it's you can. It makes it a lot clearer. That's really helpful! That's a good idea! One.

A

Of the things I would like to do here is to actually have anchor for project proposal so that when a student opens to the page, it doesn't open here, but it opens right here, but here the problem that this links they actually don't have yeah there. There are actually links if you open it it on Google Doc, but this links a unique fuji document. So we kind of just reference the header by text in Google Doc, which is quite weird but yeah I- think we can live even without that.

A

Okay, al explore options. Maybe I'll modify the logic so that we embed somehow with an anchor so which starts visual visualizing from the metadata, but from the original proposal alternate way. Once the projects are published, we can actually just move metadata to the bottom and then it should go so fine, that's not the easiest way yeah. So if you agree, we can just do that. Yeah.

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Maybe we can even a MIDI file project template. Oh.

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Yes, that's the easiest and.

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Yeah, if we do that so.

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Maybe we still need to have a summary on the top Oh.

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Yet some reason already available here Roger will it's exactly the summary?

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Let's just try opening again and voila, it's actually what we needed.

E

We have the question about the I, guess, does talk in the template, it looks like the file name in the title or two different fields, so I ran into that the interference in it, not a proposal or they just redundant. Then.

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E

This title is different than the file name. Do we even need to title if we, the file name, is being rendered.

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mmm No Strunk opinion yeah I can even rename the document from the embedded view. That's cool yeah.

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Because they both appear so.

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D

Yeah I don't know either I guess it'd be nice to have one less thing that can get out of sync and I mean just reading and I. Think I think you, since you can see the title. It's it's pretty clear. So so yeah, okay, remove yeah.

A

Okay and then we can just go say it well, probably not remove it completely, but something like here title.

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So something like that.

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Does it work for you yeah what.

B

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Would be somebody of able to update the project proposal country accordingly? I can do that.

D

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Do you mean all of them Jeff for just.

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So we can update Google Documents and we actually need to update the template. So there are two separate action items. I can.

B

Think the template, or if I, don't I, don't care I'll just do I'll just do whatever is needed.

D

Okay, okay, I think go through and fix existing documents. I guess it's.

A

Just a bit a every champion, just it is his own documents. Okay, no title a title in the metadata.

D

B

We just look at the working hours, I proposal for for an example.

F

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The new format I mean.

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So example yeah we just went if I tell working hours, I really like that to be connected to Google Docs from a baby edit page, yes, nice, its have any better than just a ski dog direction. Maybe we should switch to this format and make some pages I heard an idea. Well.

B

It's highly susceptible to spam, like someone could spam, so it can be spam so easily.

A

Yeah right well, I think it's fine for project ideas and they are supposed to be discussed and yeah. We don't allow edit by edits by everyone, but the comments are publicly open. So everybody is welcome to comment in any project proposal.

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Okay, I think we are good with it.

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Regarding the rest here, should we review the current project idea status? Nor do we have any other topics to discuss before.

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Last week, I try to I. Think I tried to poster item related things to the to the mailing list, but then this it told me that I mean we should not.

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You mean the Python one, yes,.

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Yeah titan-1 is complicated, so regarding fight on the thanks, a lot for doing pretty one.

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You actually gave a bit of you in question items you should be somewhere in the bottom.

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Yeah, so this one this is done.

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Oh yeah medicating this.

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So regarding fightin what jacedurp lighted that we shouldn't touch? Jenkins PI! It's pretty much what we discussed last week anyway, because Jenkins PI is quite updated, but Jessie wasn't against other topics, so like fightin, Jenkins he's. Finally that and yeah what I did here that actually I listed other plugins which are related to fight on and then I see it their current maintenance who might be interested but yet so far there is no response.

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And it would be nice if we can could get something there, but yep so far. There is no feedback on which we couldn't iterate I. Think.

G

You need to wait if somebody is interested.

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Yeah so one of Plan B's I have is a scanning inject sex channel about fight and specific, build box.

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But we need Mentors being with mentors who know Python. So it's not me and we need a project IDE which would be actually interested interesting to the community. I think that whatever is list, he is something doable, but we need to get people interested at that, so I think for now we just wait and maybe if anybody has any ideas how to get more traction here, it will be helpful.

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So maybe some tweets etcetera later.

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Actually can help me that I think.

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So what I can do is I'd like to try in Twitter or whatever.

A

But yeah I think that so now we generally wait. If we are lucky enough, you may get chin back now, but only if you want to propose something on your own. It would be also possible way.

G

Yeah, maybe ok, let me take a look first, yeah I, don't think yeah. I never SPN jenkins with another language.

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So yeah, let's see, maybe we will be able to figure out something. I had a special hope regarding warnings and next generation plug-in and probably Alaska Julia after the cold but yeah.

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Maybe it's something.

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Something like that.

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Okay, more action items.

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So, let's take a look: what we have here so I believe that we tried thinking pretty much every project, so this one is just a kind of fun going first right now other action items we have a pink in a Rik about a littlie, PCM I, believe I pinched, Eric somewhere and he's he was on the call yeah yeah, oh yeah, just do not see you, oh yeah you're mr. Jenkins, today.

A

Okay, so did you have a chance to take a look at the feedback.

F

I think maybe way we got enough sit back for not what do you think.

A

Yeah, we definitely go to knock feedback, so my question here was that this feedback hasn't been incorporated into the project idea. Yet so I mean there was a discussion, whether it should be get lob blogging or whether it should be a new plugin. There was a discussion of what would be else in the scope year, so it would be nice if we, for example, just summarize results of this discussion and somehow reflect them in the proposals and then market. As a result,.

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You think some changes in the proposal to be made.

F

Nothing exactly mm-hmm.

A

Okay, so I think that what we could do with something like, so what we detail is one of Martinez proposals. Last time you could say something like open questions.

A

It would be possible to just write a short summary of the discussion and let's say that there are multiple ways to implement the task.

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We put toward a distant liking, we invite students to explore options.

A

So something like that, so we do need to resolve this question per se because yeah there are maybe other options, but you know what we can do is we can say that, yes, we acknowledge that there is an open question and we invite participants to explore that and justify the approach in the proposal which could be able to a starting point.

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What do you think about such approach?.

F

Yeah I think he's fat, but I have another question for my opinion: Keith Harbor, multi-prong, scapula and bitbucket multi-prong. What she branch table. They don't have interface to to construct mmm how to say, I think a way maybe should consider he instruct.

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Interface for the bronze, a black.

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So it's something like you find impaired face for the branch.

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For branch stores, plugins.

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Are already we have TTA and feedback it and github? So.

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In spite its pace that will make in interface.

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Something like.

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Yes, yes, right, yep.

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So it might be useful to.

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Ep is etc meter, maybe after project proposal.

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Does it look good to you.

F

Yes, maybe we can create a new plugin for the interface you.

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Know it could be a part of heme Pio branch, sauce, API yeah.

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F

Be multi branch as an API plugin, because the is already held as a maybe a plugin yeah, but.

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Yeah I think this functionality could be put in a cm API directly but yeah on in your multi branch.

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Okay, for you get something quite bad thing. Yes,.

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Okay, so yeah, maybe a such approach could help to get this proposal over the line because yeah we just reflect comments. We also offer students some additional content, so they can use this information as a source for their ideas, so yeah it would be nice and actually, if we could close these comments in such way, even without making a technical decision right now, because that's why we have community bonding.

A

So this approaches my be defined by students and their proposals, and they all can be defined here abusing community bonding, but yet we can go forward with it and in addition to that, we would still need to have a newbie friendly issues. So my question to you is: would it be possible to find some of such issues?

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Maybe another branch source plugins.

F

I, don't know, I, haven't you to research, it so I have no idea for now.

A

Ok, so the question is, or you say, the ashram.

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Talkie very easy, so yeah you can reference it.

A

So we have a question for the orchid means. Would we be open to publishing this project idea without any bifida malicious.

D

It would be my preference because I think when, when people are just sort of exploring do develop new champion just nice to have have something that they can actually do it's it's tough, because if we've created a plugin that obviously there aren't any but as well like suggested it could be. Maybe we can find issues in another branch again.

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Look again so, let's just try something if it works. We have fine labels.

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Okay, so let's take something quite a bit: it hope branch, swords bucket branch, sauce.

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Doesn't work so far.

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Kcm IPS. What else did we had range epi.

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Doesn't work yeah? What we could do is we could just take a look at the the repositories and if we find something we could start from there.

D

What would a so might certain be if we could, if we could just fine if we had look at a generic set of nubia newbie friendly issues that just anybody that was interested in jenkins development? To do that, we could reuse those yeah actually.

A

It's a nice idea, so we could default to that.

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Yeah, maybe it's also an option. You're.

C

Right Jeff, it does seem like we get a lot of people that just kind of ask: how can I get started so having something that enables them to start working on? Something is better than nothing. Yeah.

A

Okay, I totally agree so yeah we could start from putting a default query, publishing cookies eat and then, when I request some time to review issues, or maybe whenever some requests, we can create a simple query dedicated to the does. It make sense.

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Would have both in all the documents yeah the default query and the specific queries for the project. Well,.

A

What I could do so? We could just modify our project ideas layout and we could put the default query there. So Jane can say your projects, juice or project ideas whatever, so we could actually put it here or maybe we could just put common links like participate.

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You befriend issues.

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What would it help? I.

C

Think so, maybe um in the future, to just very likely make definitely for next year. At this point, cuz we've, our Head Start, had some Rory getting into the process of getting projects with maybe be worthwhile to have a page like a landing page for students. I was like how do I get started in Jenkins and even if it's just kind of directing them to the website section of getting started with Jenkins it's better than it's like a good place to start.

C

So you have a question rather than you know, being lost or confused trying to look around or cuz. We know where to go, what to look for, but maybe just having everything in one place to be nice, so.

A

Here, I take an action item. Probably Hummel I'll probably create a Hamel G sub project idea. Yeah, it's not really inclined Grisha would say: let's go sample, Hummel with the template and curl and reach for website. So if you'll go to this page, improve this page and he is Hummel I see.

A

So we have it's not bad. It's just a markup language yeah! You can use it's so Janus uses our struct and Ruby request system for static website and a humble part of this ecosystem.

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Kristin you say that I have a genetic in you bigoted right.

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C

Yeah yeah to have a generic you newbie guide. So how can I get I'm? A student I want June school summer code. Look at how can I get started.

A

Project jae-seok students, so we have further guide here: Oh eligibility expectations, just contributions, useful links, election process, so a bunch of stuff. So we.

C

Would be good to put that link to the.

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To the project, ideas, yeah, okay,.

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Totally makes sense so.

C

The project pages they can have reference of where to start cool. No, it was good that page that just so they're always connected thanks thanks I, like mmm-hmm.

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Okay, I will build it yeah.

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If somebody wants to study humble you, my guest.

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Yeah, that's fine! So let's we have seven minutes. Left I propose to take a quick look at the application document again and then return back to the project proposals. What I actually asked we have. This description and I asked everybody on the call to spend some time to review the documentation and yeah. There are definitely some changes we need to make. For example, we have almost twenty mentors now, which is cool, but here there it would be great get your feedback. What we can improve.

A

It is documentation of what we can simplify and we have three weeks to finish this proposal.

B

Mostly so, do you want to do you want to do you want this proposal to be entered online before we review it.

A

So my proposal would be to spend, for example, one day so let's spend 24 hours to review it and after that, if your mall is finally the current state, let's put it on the jsoc website so right now there is no time pressure to edit this information. We have several days but yeah haven't stitched. Something early, wouldn't hurt.

B

Now is this application process, like the other I guess, yeah.

A

You can we can we.

B

Can keep editing it until the deadline exactly.

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B

But only one person can edit it at the time exactly.

A

So we can just agree that, for example, yeah, maybe on rotation basis, or we can so we spend 24 hours, make changes that review that you come into an outside and then, for example, because another one week iteration and after one week or iteration, which somebody just applies, they differ to the application side.

A

Does that make sense.

B

A

Okay, then 24 hours, let's assume that tomorrow, at the same time as somebody starts publishing page o on the evening, and particularly.

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B

Publishing it, you mean, send the full request for changes or enters it in under.

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City Anglet system in.

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Let's the LR just do it after the working lease or something like 6:00 p.m. a UTC.

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Okay, something quite good.

B

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Wait does it make sense.

A

Generally, we already have this document with J, so Court convenes, so there shouldn't be, anything could be used today, but you haven't come all ice would definitely help.

B

F

Right, what's the meaning of the first attraction, sorry I, don't know: what's the Romanian the foster draft.

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C

Read is asking what.

B

Is the meaning of the draft of the application to Google? What's.

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The veneer that we have everything in place, so it means firstly, Google- sees that we are kind of ready. This is one of the benefits and other benefits that we know that we are ready. So if something happens, we already have something staged, but here generally my intention is to have a green flock here as soon as possible, so that Jenkins as a project that we just set our intention- let's be serious at this year- and we have everything- can please, let's see.

A

All right doesn't answer the question.

A

Okay, so with the meeting is almost over, we can go maybe five minutes overtime so to quickly check other projects we haven't discussed here and then does it work for you or should be a closed right now.

D

It'll be good soo-ji project, say: okay,.

A

So, let's take a look first at what hasn't been published yet so artifact arrest, plug-in Martin water would be the steps here. From your point of view, Oh.

B

For this one now that I have direction from from Jessie on how to so the the difficulty with this plug-in is. The proposal says that it almost says that we would be returning complex objects to the pipeline, but effectively steps should only return. Serializable data to the pipeline and I think methods don't fall into that category methods, no, but fuel so the whole. They also do fold and your so. The rest api is kind of a nested thing.

B

So to access a field, you almost need hierarchy and on the technical side, I'm not sure how to do the hierarchy, but I don't want to make everything flat either, because that will just make one gigantic response going back to the pipeline. So that's the biggest question technical question I have here: we could push it to to the student proposal to explore. I guess see.

A

But you know such gives, meaning to summarize the discussion here, Oh what I just.

B

Said you mean yeah.

A

Okay, so maybe something like open questions so so, like abd TVs, github, okay got.

B

A

Yeah once it's done, I'm happy to publish it as a draft yeah. Currently I was a leaky system because well we just didn't have a description which could be consumed by a student, but hey. If you summarize the discussion, if you maybe provide some examples, I think we could publish it.

B

Okay, it's actually the status is currently draft. It's published as draft no.

A

Artifactory isn't published no.

B

A

That's so other project IDs has been published. Artifactory, it wasn't so he's been market. His drink is rest, but not an OST factor.

A

Okay, so let's go next them by planned step documentation. Do we do something like conversion to pipeline dog or whatever, or do be any better for google seasonal documentation.

C

So this one's weird, because I think that there is a lot here that would be better for that google season of Docs, because really so many of the but I think what would make this a lot better overall is just having more information about what sort of what is what you're actually putting in, because you'll go to some lists like pipeline steps, and it will literally just be. You know, like the the name of the and just parameters, are like string string string with no context for like even what this stuff does at all.

C

It just exists out in the space. So to me, that's more of a documentation problem, but my principal good point here with the there's no right now currently like it's not obvious how the step looks and part of that is just kind of it's really that's a technical challenge and it was kind of really hard to hold it unless um someone included it in the documentation like this is physically what the string looked like. So it's kind of like this is the half and half.

C

But if there's there are some type of technical music technical things are pulling in from where people have documented stuff, but sometimes there just isn't documentation to pull an inch, and so it makes a little challenging yeah.

A

Would it help if, just before this project ideas discussed at the pipeline authoring, Sigma tank I.

C

Think so because.

A

Maybe it would be.

A

C

Are you think, writing yes,.

B

I want to attend today's, but another ring signaling and talk about this. I talked about this project idea and I guess get feedback from them. I I doubt they would supply a mentor yeah.

C

B

But we never know so here.

A

So and plonk beast convert it to something like pipeline doc. We were discussing but yeah, it's up to you Tristan. So.

C

A

Propose we keep it as this for now but yeah. Well, let's you bother here. We can, I still convert it to the project.

C

Sorry I mean worst case scenario: I mean it would be interesting to have it as a summer of Docs, because there is you're missing. Yes,.

C

Just because it is missing so much documentation, yeah.

A

Right, okay, let's scroll down, then we have a Jenkins. Your when you're touring, maybe I'm not sure, have allotted emerged. The pool request.

A

Say you are, if not, you can probably just integrate it. Oh I have already didn't know. Is it so, which one did you have a chance to take a look at it.

G

Yeah I just tell you look at this: it is okay.

A

So I will rush it once you approve it here and oh.

B

I, do not everybody.

A

Can approve so you can still approve. You will just get great teak instead of the green tick. That's it! Oh.

G

Okay, because just now just now, I chat with vitamin fellowship.

B

A

So, let's assume this is published, we have two other project ideas. One is configuration, is code plug-in compatibility so Martine? It would be great if we could publish it as a draft and I hope you have all necessary information in place. So there is a documentation. We have some potential mentors who might be able to help and we have for all the information in place. So I think we could just publish it.

B

No I think it should be published as like mother's dress, but just published no.

A

Okay, we we can actually just publish it as well, because yeah we discussed it well. We can continue facilitating the discussion, but we definitely have enough information, I'm, just editing for the proposal, so it complies give a new format. We discussed. Oh.

B

Yeah absolutely okey.

A

So something like that project proposal and I'll show whether it's not relevant anymore.

A

If you are finding this publishing people directly as published I'm, also fine with it.

B

Yes, it looks complete mentors and everything.

A

Ok, let's do it and yeah regarding Jenkins windows, services, llamó configuration support so Jeff. Are you fine with a big contractor come in here, yeah.

D

A

So we all just integrated and the same question. It would be nice to get it published, at least as a draft, mostly because of diversity, of further our offering, because this proposal has another a technical stack and Joey needs of an optional here.

D

Yeah, all along Smith picks up the documents for us to make it a draft.

A

A

Ok, so something very good: ok,.

A

And so I all said it a bit.

A

Okay and I believe that's it. We still have some unsubmitted project ideas, so we had a dissonance, Oh fight, another late in discussion. We also had a discussion about one of the core functionality: stuff plug-in management tooling. So what the reason interest to have it as a project idea and yeah I think that we make get it over the fence last week, I just over to the tethers, are not really idiom like get it over there. Friends, okay, the correct idiom is get over the line.

A

Okay, so I, just read it and I will convert it to the G sub project idea, but maybe for the next week.

A

Okay, I think: that's it if you are missing some more project ideas at set, please add them to the Google document, but I think we are already good in terms of for what we have published.

E

So our skin, through the application draft, looks good to me generally I. Think there's something somewhere about. If we were to add Qian Qian's X, we may have to change the organization aspects, a middle of a slack conversation, some folks in check context yeah if there's interest, but they won't have the proposal. Immediate availability.

E

A

Fine with putting Jenkins X right away, but yeah the trigger that Jenkins X is no different from configuration as code plug-in, because Jenkins X is a sub-project at least from the Jenkins standpoint. I do not mind if we list all sub projects in the application.

A

E

So I don't have a proposal from them yet, but we can. We don't need to amend our organization, submission that if we get a proposal from Jenkins X yeah.

A

E

A

Well, I think we can amend it right now. I will just I meant it in a way that it's not like a Jenkins or Jinky sex. It's like Jenkins and the all its sub projects, including Jenkins X, got.

E

It okay yeah and then that way we may or may not get a proposal from then either way or organizational application will still be. Okay,.

A

Okay, something like that, and then we also need to change mentor number I.

A

Believe we are going to have 20 plus I still need to calculate it, but you have many mentors at this time. Yeah.

E

I mean until I get a champion and with the proposal when Jen connects I don't want to account for, though right now, I just want make sure our it doesn't change our organizational application. Yeah.

A

Let's do that: okay,.

E

Thank you. Okay,.

A

Thank you Tom, mmm so any other topics so to discuss today.

B

I think from me.

A

Okay, nothing from me yeah, maybe starting from the next week's we should switch meetings to two ones. One is public open our office hours for students and mentors and another one made before or come in sync up or mentor sync up, so that we detach this topic. Two separate meetings, yeah I, think we can discuss it later. I just feel the meetings get a bit long, so.

D

Sorry, we did, you have our meetings. Is there maybe.

A

Or me just keep office hours like one hour in the current time slot and maybe.

B

A

Some routine operations like proposal moving around and chicken status outreach status, another slot I'm, not sure, or maybe we can try keeping critizise until we go overtime. A lot.

D

The way which me mm-hmm.

A

A

So, thanks to everybody for participating in the call- and we looking forward to more conversations and yeah if you're a mentor, please reach out to potential students and potential commenters in community channels because more visibility, we get more good projects and more good students. We get and it's our joint interest and you thanks again to everybody so have a nice day. Thank you.

E