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From YouTube: Jenkins UX SIG Meeting - 29 April 2020
Description
The 11th UX SIG Meeting started with an update on ongoing work like the typography overhaul and the sidebar revamp. Then new accessibility epic was discussed. Finally a discussion took place about the Jenkins UX Online Hackathon.
A
Awesome,
let
me
know
someone
if
that's
if
it's
not
quite
large
enough
and
I
will
make
it
so
cool.
Welcome
everybody
to
the
11th
Jenkins
UX
cig
online
Meetup.
We
got
a
couple
of
standard
items
here
and
then
some
new
items
to
go
through
today,
so
first
agenda
review
and
and
and
agree
on
the
gen
2
topics.
So
anybody
have
anything
they
want
to
add.
I,
see
we're
just
jumping
in
there
and
doing
that.
That's
awesome
feel
free
to
do
that
as
we
go
through.
Can.
B
C
C
C
A
D
A
A
A
We
have
a
deck
like
this,
that
kind
of
summarizes
some
of
the
design
items
and
we
also
have
a
dedicated
resources,
Google
document
that
lists
everything
that
we
share
in
every
meeting,
so
everything's
kind
of
collated-
and
you
can
reference
back
to
this-
but
to
get
some
more
context
for
the
overall
project.
There's
some
slides
in
here
that
are
here
for
every
deck.
If
you
want
to
check
those
out
and
then
we
can
jump
into
some,
there
were
three
items
on
today's
lesson.
Typography
considerations,
color
palette
improvements
and
some
sidebar
design
improvements.
A
So,
first,
let's
look
at
typography.
We
had
as
of
I,
think
it
was
probably
February
in
this
sig.
We
shared
the
first
iteration
of
a
sort
of
type
scale,
I'm
sort
of
trying
to
define
consistent
or
standardized
typographic
hierarchy
for
the
Jenkins
interface,
which
we
have
since
simplified,
and
we've
of
course,
merged.
Some
really
simple,
but
really
effective
and
impactful
improvements
to
typography
and
Jenkins
as
well,
which
is
great,
and
so
all
this
topic
is
for.
Today's
call
is
just
to
say
that
work
kind
of
continues
right.
A
It's
not
it's
not
just
a
checkbox
and
then
done,
and
we
don't
think
about
typography,
it's
one
of
those
elements
that
that
impacts
just
about
everything
else
in
the
experience.
So,
in
the
background,
we're
I
suppose
out
of
the
background,
but
over
here
in
between
meetings,
things
are
things
are
happening
here
as
well.
So
I
spent
a
little
time
thinking
about
typography
and
Jenkins,
trying
to
come
up
with
a
more
effective
way
of
categorizing,
typography
and
typographic
styles.
A
So
that's
not
something
really
I
can
I
can
show
very
quickly
without
a
more
prepared
demo,
but
it's
just
to
kind
of
highlight
that
that's
something
we're
being
mindful
of
this
is
the
type
scale
in
its
current
iteration
right.
This
is
something
that
will
continue
to
evolve,
but
fortunately
it
is.
It
is
becoming
more
sophisticated
as
we
solve
as
we
continue
to
solve
problems,
and
it's
it's
becoming
a
bit
more
realistic.
A
As
time
goes
on
as
well
and
as
I
mention,
you
can
always
go
back
and
look
at
this
stuff
after
the
fact
so
I'm
gonna
kind
of
move
quickly,
because
we've
got
a
lot
to
cover.
The
second
topic
also
I'm,
just
broadcasting
here
which
I
apologize.
Anyone
can
interrupt
me
any
time.
As
a
reminder.
We
have
an
open
conversation
format
here.
A
second
topic
is
updated.
Color
palettes
Huli.
You
brought
to
my
attention
the
need
for
for
more
detail
around
around
colors
in
the
elastic
meeting,
which
I
really
appreciate.
A
We
had
that
first
iteration
of
a
color
palette.
It
was
okay
and
I
got
things
started,
and
now
it
was
time
to
push
that
further
I.
Don't
yet
have
a
color
schema
for
you
for
data
visualization
I
know,
that's
something
you
were
kind
of
wanting
and
I
will
be
giving
that
to
you
soon,
but
first
I
wanted
to
improve
the
format
of
this
I'm.
Sorry,
were
you
gonna
say
something.
A
And
so
I
wanted
to
take
a
step
back
and
improve
how
we
do
how
we
look
at
colors
and
Jenkins
and
also
provide
some
more
detailed
resources
around
colors.
So
with
that
in
mind,
we've
got
some
color
categories
here.
Each
category
contains
multiple
swatches
and
what
this
does
is
it
helps
us
to
kind
of
establish
a
frame
for
a
framework
for
discussing
color
and
how
we
think
about
the
different
colors
relate
to
one
another
throughout
the
interface
Swach.
This
is
not
a
full
palette.
Of
course.
A
It's
just
a
few
swatches,
but
each
swatch
now
provides
the
the
hex
value
for
reference
right,
which
is
a
an
oversight
from
the
original
version.
But
now
that's
added
in
there
and
the
updated
resource
also
emphasizes
visual
contrast,
as
the
details
are
provided
about
the
contrast
ratio
of
common
color
pairings
right.
So
it's
really
important
when
you're
referencing
these
colors
to
oh
I'm,
sorry,
somebody
said
no
sorry,
no
worries
I,
keep
hearing
things
saying
too
much
coffee.
A
Perhaps
it's
really
important
to
think
about
how
these
colors
relate
to
one
another,
in
the
contrast
that
we
have,
especially
when
it
comes
to
text,
but
also
just
general
UI
elements
against
their
backgrounds.
So
what
I've
done
for
each
color
here
is
provided
the
contrast
ratio
details
for
for
common
color
scenarios
right.
So,
for
example,
we
have
Jenkins
blue
here.
If
this
is
used
as
a
background
and
the
foreground
is
text
white,
then
this
contrast
ratio
is
too
low.
A
This
fails
by
most
measures,
but
the
temptation-
and
the
inclination
usually
would
be
to
put
white
text
on
this
blue.
So
that's
why
that
a
particular
pairing
is
is
laid
out
here
to
provide
that
detail
and
the
goal
is
to
show
those
common
color
pairings.
What
people
would
would
typically
default
to
logically
and
myself
included
and
and
provide
a
little
more
context
for
whether
or
not
that
works
inside
of
these
resources.
E
A
And
and
like
I
said,
you
know
the
resource
I'm
still
working
on
it
here
and
basically
I
want
to
make
it
real,
easy
and
I'll
link
some
other
tools
for
people
to
go
and
test
out
other
combinations.
You
know
like
like,
if
you
were
wondering
what,
if
black,
would
work
so
work
in
progress,
but
hopefully
we
we
end
up
with
some
really
thorough,
useful
stuff
here,
and
what
we're
seeing
on
screen
now
is
an
example
of
one
of
those
categories
right.
A
We
have,
as
I
mentioned
earlier
earlier,
five
color
categories,
and
this
is
the
general
UI
elements.
Color
category
we're
showing
the
visual
contrast
details
for
common
pairings.
What
people
would
would
usually
be
inclined
to
try
out
together
and
I'll,
also
add
on
here
sort
of
a
linked
to
two
other
tooling
that
helps
you
test.
Other
combinations.
A
A
Okay,
cool
well
I'll,
keep
you
all
updated
the
final
old
form.
You
know
abyss
or
the
more
finesse
form.
So
it's
a
little
easier
to
understand.
I
think
I'll
share
in
the
next
thing
and
then
the
last
thing
for
this
is
slide
deck
and
then
Felix
will
jump
into
yours.
Your
demo.
There
will
be
just
that.
We're
thinking
about
design
improvements
for
the
sidebar
and
the
place
to
start,
for
that
is
to
kind
of
try
and
define
the
anatomy
of
that
side
panel
right
now.
A
It's
for
power
users
and
people
who
are
very
familiar
with
Jenkins.
It's
really
clear
how
it
works,
but
it's
not
always
clear
to
new
users.
It
can
be
a
little
bit
amorphous
what
what
elements
are
which
and
how
they,
how
they
interact
and
relate
to
one
another
I
think
there's
a
common
here.
Let
me
just
check
that
thick
thanks.
What
let
me
see
here
so
we're
trying
to
think
about
how
trying
to
define
that
structure
right
because
there
it
already
exists.
That
panel
has
has
logic
to
it.
A
C
Would
like
to
say
something:
I
would
like
to
to
call
attention
to
them
to
the
distinction
there.
Can
you
zoom
in
in
the
center
crease
in
the
task
better.
So
we
are
aware-
and
many
people
is
aware,
that
there
are
problems
in
the
sidebar
with
mixing
of
two
different
things:
family
of
items
which
are
navigation,
links
and
actions.
For
example,
it's
confusing
to
have
go
to
these
configured
page
next
to
the
lead,
wheels
button
or
next
to
the
bill
now
button
so
yeah.
So
we
Joe
has
designed
some
concept
for
separate.
C
How
do
we
can
separate
tasks
than
navigation
here?
I
am
afraid
we
cannot
implement
it
right
now,
because
we
don't.
There
is
just
not
infrastructure
on
the
Jenkins
I
mean
on
jelly
or
whatever
to
do
this,
but
this
is
something
that
we
propose
and
if
something
in
somebody
comes
up
with
a
way
of
how
we
can
start
work
working
the
way
towards
this,
please
speak
up
or
we
work
on
Vinicius
I
mean
yeah
I
would.
F
Be
happy
to
improve
this
panel,
because
this
is
an
imperialistic
state
and
in
some
cases,
for
example,
for
built
view
becomes
really
complicated,
because
many
actions
tend
to
additional
controls
I'm,
not
even
speaking
about
get
clogged.
You
know,
I
wish
my
it's
something
like
five
or
ten
actions.
Unfortunately
yeah
there
is
a
known
issue
with
that,
so
I
would
be
happy
to
regroup,
wait
to
remove
it,
maybe
even
hide
the
panel
by
default
or
maybe
put
a
slider
so
that
it
doesn't
consume
too
much
space.
When
it's
not.
You
know,
yeah.
C
For
me,
the
things
we
to
allow
people
calling
the
task
or
setting
up
the
panel
calling
or
invoking
the
task
to
say
this
is
an
action
or
thesis
and
navigation.
So
I
think
that
would
be
a
start
for
me
too,
but
I
don't
I,
don't
know.
Maybe
we
can
maybe
one
discusses
of
flying,
but
I
really
would
have
the
vision
where
we
could
improve,
say
we
don't
wait.
This
is
something
we
can
improve
and
I.
Mostly
almost
everybody
agrees
with
this
yeah.
F
B
C
For
feedback,
okay,
let
me
know
if
everybody
can
see
my
screen:
yeah,
okay,
great
so
I
went
ahead
and
implemented.
Joe's
designs
and
you'll
notice
that
this
sidebar
takes
with
more
space.
We
have
added
a
bit
more
vertical
spacing
between
items
they
are
now.
Each
hyperlink
is
now
40
pixels.
So
we
think
this
is
a
reasonable
touch
area
for
people
to
interact
with,
because
the
previous
previous
one
felt
too
cramped
I
mean
you
see
there.
This
is
really.
This
is
almost
closed
of
just
of
traffic
right,
so
problem.
C
It
may
push
these
panels,
have
it
in
some
screens.
That's
something
that
we
appreciate
feedback
on
this,
but
we
asked
to
keep
an
open
mind
this
one
so
you'll
see.
This
is
how
it
looks
in
screen
with
a
bit
more
right
and
with
a
few
more
items.
For
example,
on
this
job
yeah.
We
also
have
improved
activist
status
for
the
current
page.
C
We
think
it's
a
bit
more
clear,
now
more
visible,
instead
of
just
bold
text,
and
we
also
look
into
the
into
how
to
render
nested
items
nested
elements
inside
of
this,
so
especially,
for
example,
the
credentials
one.
The
credentials
plugging
provides
an
up
side
where
entries
with
different
levels
of
nesting
instead
of
marking
all
ancestors
as
current
I
think
we.
This
is
more.
C
A
C
A
I
was
just
gonna
say
this
is
one
of
those
things
that
you
know
on
paper.
It
can
seem
kind
of.
You
can
almost
seem
like
not
not
a
big
deal,
but
really
over
the
long
term
when
you're
interacting
with
this
panel
as
much
as
a
person
does.
This
can
make
a
huge
difference
in
just
general
usability
and
having
proper
interactive
states
reflected
here,
I'm,
so
pretty
excited
about
this
one,
but
definitely
open.
You
know
open
to
feedback
and
want
to
get
which
I'll
sing
for
sure
yeah.
C
Definitely
also,
and
regarding
the
implementation
of
this,
this
is
a
bit
interesting.
I
think
this
is
gonna,
be
everything
interesting
we
what
I
did
a
was,
first
of
all,
if
you,
if
you
look
at
the
CIA
paintings
Ohio
example
you'll
see
that
these
both
in
each
image,
these
are
two
different
hyperlinks,
doesn't
really
make
much
sense.
C
So
what
I
did
is
a
rework
the
tasks
that
jelly
template
to
have
a
single
hyperlink
to
wrap
everything
so
I
think
it's
a
bit
more
usable
are
now
working
when
the
user
taps
through
this,
it's
a
bit
more
accessible
and
now
it
more
intuitive,
so
I
I.
Don't
think
this
will
break
any
planning.
Any
plugin
I
will
try
to
identify,
do
a
bit
more
deep
search
of
of
plugins.
That
has
a
custom
action,
dot
jelly.
C
A
H
C
Okay,
so
what
I?
What
I
want
to
say
that
these
both
now
both
the
images
and
the
levels
are
within
the
same
hyperlink,
unlike
before
so
I
needed
to
change
the
task
that
jelly
template
for
that?
So
if
anybody
is
aware
of
any
plug-in
that
does
weird
things
with
side
or
entries,
please
let
me
know:
I've
been
searching,
I
didn't
find
any
relevant
planet
that
did
that.
C
But
you
never
know
and
also
I
know,
I'm
aware
that
I
think
some
plugins
have
a
drop-down
arrow
like
this:
a
contextual
menu
on
the
side,
where
I
on
the
side,
where
entries
so
I'm,
looking
for
a
side
balance
with
have
a
contextual
menu.
If
somebody
knows
of
a
specific
one
to
test,
please
let
me
know
so
yeah,
so
that's
it
any!
And
if
you
took
any
make
comments
on
this.
G
A
E
We
freeze,
for
me
at
least
it
I,
find
it
quite
helpful
to
have
credentials
have
hierarchy
there,
because
it
at
least
it
it
helped
me
understand.
There
is
a
nesting
of
this,
so
the
example
he
shows
here
was
was
helpful
to
me.
However,
I'm
open
to
also
opening
the
credentials
panel
directly
and
using
it.
F
F
H
H
These
pages,
no
no
I
feel
the
same,
at
least
for
me
personally.
Experience
that
that
you
have
of
case
seems
weird
that
you
just
concerning
the
one
link
instead
of
two:
it's
something
that
is
really
nice.
So
if
you
can
manage
to
have
that
information,
it
could
be
really
good,
especially
in
term
of
for
accessibility,
yeah.
E
C
C
Sorry,
the
image
was
a
hyperlink
that
had
no
no
no
text,
so
you
could
hover
over
it
and
say:
okay,
what
does
this
I
can
do?
But
now
they
are
by
a
part
of
the
same
entity,
so
I
screen
reader,
who,
whatever
tool
just,
would
go
over
and
read
the
content
of
the
text.
For
example,
they
would
to
go
over
here
and
read,
manage
Jenkins
and
ignore
it.
What
the
heck.
H
You
just
a
fault
about
the
CA
Jenkins
that
are
you.
If
you
can
just
open
the
tab
left
or
come
back
there
as
you
have
seen.
Perhaps
there
is
a
lot
lot
number
of
executors.
You
can
scroll
down
a
lot
to
see
all
the
things
with
an
extended
aid
for
the
sidebar.
Do
you
think
it
could
be
a
problem
with
that,
especially
if
we
think
about
the
future
and
your
tendency
to
but
more
space
around
the
things
for
the
design
such
page
could
be
even
longer.
What
do
you
think
so.
A
It's
a
balancing
act
right,
it's
it's
a
because
it
is
a
fundamentally
good
thing
to
have
slightly-
maybe
not
not,
maybe
not
even
as
much
as
we
have
reflected
there,
but
but
it
is
a
good
thing
to
have
a
more
spaced
out
menu.
However,
I
totally
get
your
point,
the
design
of
these
executor
z'
and
how
this
is
reflected
is
also
going
to
be
reconsidered,
so
we
might
be
able
to,
for
lack
of
a
better
expression,
save
some
Heights
and
vertical
height
in
those
as
well.
A
It's
hard
to
say
right
now,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
if
someone
has
a
really
complex
configuration
with
a
very
tall
sidebar,
there
there's
sort
of
a
feeling
out
there
that
the
people
don't
like
to
scroll
or
that
that
breaks
the
experience
and
from
what
I
understand
you
know.
That's
that's
not
necessarily
true.
So
if
something
I'm
being
mindful
of
for
sure
but
I,
think
it's
also
somewhat
unavoidable
in
this
project.
Yeah.
C
I
also
think
it
could
be
argued
that
is
that
the
correct
place
you
know
to
have
the
executor
is
where
to
place
the
executors
list.
So,
for
example,
can
you
can
we
be
creative
and
we
maybe
have
a
right
panel,
where
we
share
that
it's
collapsible,
where
we
can
show
the
old
these
items
so
and
we
keep
the
left
panel.
C
F
A
good
question
because
it's
not
only
a
matter
of
user
experience,
it's
also
a
matter
of
performance,
because
some
beacon
stances
that
this
panel
creates
a
pretty
high
load
on
the
server.
It
was
even
worse
when
this
panel
was
synchronous
when
we
had
cue
logs,
etc.
Now
we
have
Q
patient
because
I'm
of
initial
consistence
on
this
panel,
but
still
it
produces
quite
a
load.
If
you
have
hundreds
of
users
connecting
to
the
main
page
yeah.
I
C
I
think
but
I
think
that's
I,
think
that's
I
think
we
should
kick
them
in
the
future
because,
for
example,
I
also
been
playing
around
with
the
idea
of
making
so
everybody's
favorite
panel,
which
is
the
trends,
but
we
all
know
what
happens
when
when
this
gets
to
Y
the
right
I've
been
playing
around
with
the
idea
of
making
this
collapsible
to
the
to
the
side.
So
maybe
we
should.
We
start
thinking
about
that.
C
But
I
think
that
I
think
Radek
I
think
you're
right
where
we
are
on
a
track
to
add
vertical,
spacing
to
many
places.
But
for
example,
here
maybe
here
in
the
middle
history.
That
argument
has
more
impact
and
because
this
is
something
you
can
see
at
a
glance
but
the
first
sample
here
on
as
soon
as
you
have
something
on
the
bill
queue.
You
just
will
not
see
anything
on
the
executives
this
right
so.
C
I
said
I
think
it's
a
balancing
act.
I,
don't
think
we
have
a
good
solution
right
now,
other
than
because
we
need
to
see-
and
we
should
limit
ourselves-
improving
readability,
improving
in
every
capacity
to
interact
with
this
panel
and
improve
it
with
one
a
thing
with
the
fact
that
we
have
this
piece
of
legacy:
UI
widget.
H
Just
afford,
in
addition,
if
you
want
to
break,
know
workflow
of
people
the
wave
like
Gmail,
condensed
mud,
it
could
be
also
useful
so
that
you
remove
the
vertical
space
for
people
who
really
want
to
have
very
dense
information
and
for
rest
of
the
people
to
have
the
more
beautiful
version.
What
do
you
think.
A
May
it's
that
it's
an
interesting
idea,
it's
a
it's!
Just
it's
out
of
scope
for
right
now,
but
long
term.
I
think
it's
an
interesting
idea,
especially
since
there
are
so
many
pieces
of
the
UI
in
general
that
look
like
this.
This
ain't,
the
same
kind
of
goes
for
the
panels,
topics
and
these
ideas
like
I
love
as
ideas,
but
I,
don't
think
we'll
be
able
to
get
to
them
very
soon.
B
C
C
A
F
C
Okay,
for
some
reason,
interesting,
accessibility,
epic,
okay,
let
me
share
again
this
time
my
visual
studio,
the
screen,
so
we
close
this
we
have
done
so.
We
have
been
doing
some
accessibility,
research
and
found
some
accessibility
well.
Jenkins
as
a
whole
has
severe
accessibility
issues.
Most
of
them
are
very,
very
tough
to
solve.
For
example,
it's
really
difficult
to
make
accessible
widgets
such
as
dropdowns
and
everything
because
they
depend
on
the
who
UI
code.
C
So
that
said,
we
identified
several
issues
that
can
be
easy
and
even
most
of
the
newly
friendly
and
so
I
will
be
creating
a
QT
epoch
with
these
issues,
and
we
will
leave
them
there
and
eventually,
if
we
see
no
open
sir
contributors,
sorry
some
community
contributors
to
pick
them
up
implemented.
Maybe
we
we
will
be
we're
closed.
We'll
start
solving
some
a
few
of
them,
but
we
think
are
great
candidates
for
nui
friendly
tasks.
C
C
F
Nice
improvement
in
general
and
also
we
had
a
number
of
contributors
who
were
bringing
up
ability
stories
before
so,
for
example,
we
were
discussing,
you
are
a
mod
for
colorblind
people.
Obviously
it's
not
a
newbie
friendly
task,
but
this
definitely
makes
sense.
So
my
main
question
is
how
far
we
would
like
to
go
in
general.
So
not
that
is
defined
for
tasks,
but
what
would
be
there
and
go
for
us
so.
C
Angle
should
we
may
be
making
changes
illegal
to
use
in
countries
and
places
where
you
have,
for
example,
England
government,
during
an
or
in
a
big
company,
should
be
able
to
use
Jenkins
without
fear
that
somebody's
an
employee
would
sue
them
for
because
they,
the
tool
they
took
they
are
mandated
to
use,
is
not
accessible,
so
I
think
that's
the
extent
we
should
avoid,
and
I
mean
this
is
a
pragmatic
way
and
the
target
should
be
to
serve
better
most
users,
but
they're.
More
pragmatic
and
cynical
is
everybody.
F
It's
perfectly
fine
certification,
so
it's
important
especially
for
lenders,
but
for
many
users
it's
it
may
be
a
decision
criteria.
So
if
we
say
that
we
comply
with
some
standards-
and
we
have
proof
over
that-
it
would
definitely
help
so
why
arms
I'm
asking
as
mostly
about
because
of
the
Jenkins
roadmap,
because
accessibility
looks
to
be
a
good
item
to
put
the
in
general.
But
if
we
want
to
put
that,
we
definitely
need
to
somehow
documented
this
biggest
story
may
be.
F
F
F
C
There
there
are
lots
of
of
browser,
extensions
that
you
can
install
and
we'll
do
an
accessory
first
level.
Accessibility,
audit
of
the
page-
but
if
you
put
them
in
yang,
is
they
will
just
explode
I
mean
Genghis.
Has
lots
of
problems
is
mostly
about
and
everything
we
can
developers
is
informing
us
ourselves
somewhat.
The
Pokemon
accessibility
issues
are
because
it's
mam
and
try
to
fix
them
with
baby
it
because
it
I,
don't
think
it's
possible
or
reasonable
to
say
and
we
are
going
to
make
changes
double
a
accessible
in
one
year.
C
I,
don't
think
that's
feasible,
especially
considering
that
any
depends
so
much
on
the
plugins
and
plugins
can
be
inaccessible
themselves
and
they
put
may
bring
maybe
their
excessive
the
the
level
of
accessibility
now.
But
what
can
we
do?
We
can
create
accessible,
widgets,
accessible,
search,
bar
and
search
box.
We
can
create
accessible
dropdowns,
we
can
improve
the
forms.
The
forms
are
a
big
one
and
thankfully,
with
the
new
forms
BR,
we
around
a
way
to
have
more
accessible
forms,
so
those
are
all
places
where
we
can
help.
C
F
Speak
about
that,
so,
if
you
don't
mind,
I
will
just
share
my
screen:
okay,
yeah.
So
if
I
want
really
disgusted
to
get
the
public-
and
actually
this
is
just
a
quick
heads-up-
we
were
discussing
online
hackathon
for
a
couple
of
months.
We
discussed
it
in
Brussels
at
the
jingilator
summit.
We
had
a
number
of
hackathons
before
and
they
were
quite
successful.
So,
for
example,
here
we
have
Java
tends
to
forget
on
into
southern
region.
It
was
one
week
online
hackathon.
Then
we
had
Oktoberfest
Oktoberfest
again
was
pretty
good
in
terms
of
contributions.
F
F
F
To
the
developer,
mailing
list
soon
is
having
common
hackathon
for
that
late
me
why
this
timeframe
is
because
it's
end
of
days
of
community
bonding
so
that
we
don't
ever
miss
edges
of
coding
timeframe
and
also
our
students
can
also
participate
in
the
community
here
they
interested
and
the
the
idea
would
be
to
focus
on
our
user
experience.
It
includes
some
like
Jenkins
loop
until
updates.
So
basically
we
took
stories
which
are
already
on
the
roadmap,
which
we
discussed
at
previous
meetings.
F
Okay,
so
here
you
can
see,
there
are
stuff.
It's
like
you
are
it's
who
can
feel
interface,
what
we
didn't
touch
it,
of
course,
here
yeah
plug-in
management,
user
experience
is
also
on
the
list.
I
also
tend
to
play
that
accessibility
topic
just
before
this
meeting
when
I've
seen
the
agenda,
because
if
you
have
a
friend
they
tickets,
why
not?
Also
we
have
a
number
of
documentation
things
we
would
like
to
improve
so
solution
pages
tutorials.
F
What
we
were
discussing
that
the
communication
seek
over
past
months,
because
the
communication
could
be
improved
and
the
communication
is
also
a
significant
factor
for
user
experience.
Overall,
we
could
also
put
a
dog's
migration
so
with
the
basic
immigration
from
weekend.
The
story
which
is
still
there
and
yeah
I
can
which
is
currently
in
works.
The
Jenkins
said
the
way,
a
user
study
site
that
is
a
blog
post
aged
by
a
list
at
all.
F
So
we
were
thinking
just
to
get
these
stories
and
to
run
a
one-week
event
where
we
invite
everybody
to
contribute
and
there's
a
result.
We
sent
some
SH
work
and
then
probably
organize
some
online
events
like
meetups
of
some
developers,
meetups
or
web
UI
development
I
was
some
grand
opening
like
we
did
for
Oktoberfest,
for
example,
and
it's
a
one
week
hackathon,
so
we
will
need
reviewers.
We
will
need
all
social
media,
stuff
and
I.
Think
that
advocacy
and
outreach
seek
would
be
pretty
interested
to
contribute
there.
F
Yes,
that's
what
we
want
to
organize.
It's
all
in
draft
this
document
basically
just
started
tomorrow.
We
just
put
some
rain
down,
but
it
will
be
sent
to
the
community
soon.
So
my
interest
would
be
to
get
your
feedback,
whether
you
think
it's
important
enough,
for
they
would
be
interested
to
participate
and
with
your
feedback.
A
A
I
think
it's
a
super
interesting
idea.
I
think
that
this
is
I
have
not
been
involved
with
a
hackathon
for
Jenkins
in
the
past,
but
I
know
that
they
are
a
really
great
way
of
building
community
of
reminding
people
why
they
love
this
project
and,
and
so
I'm
excited
about
this
I
would
love
to
also
talk
more
with
you
after
this.
After
this
call,
just
since
we're
running
out
of
time,
we
like
about
some
of
the
topics
that
you
have
in
mind
right,
but
the
circle
well.
E
F
E
C
C
F
Not
so
yeah,
of
course,
it's
online
tech
thing
yeah,
so
W
welcome
to
its
fate
yeah.
So
if
you
are
concerned
about
timing,
Java,
10
plus
hackathon,
basically
it
was
organized
with
two
weeks
advance.
We
have
three
weeks
so
yeah
I
think
it's
technically
possible.
We
will
be
decayed
sometime.
We
also
discussed
sponsorship,
so
we
want
to
try
to
Jenkins's
the
way
campaign
and
we
go
get
janice
and
OE
t-shirts
for
contributors
and
we
are
probably
will
be
able
to
facilitate
most
part.
These
tissues
are
really
nice
by
the
way.
C
H
H
Your
application
is
venerable,
and
things
like
that,
even
if
it's
not
true
and
the
fact
that
we
are
using
very
very
old
library,
seems
to
be
weird,
especially
the
yahoo
stuff,
because
it's
a
completely
out
of
support
and
the
version
we
are
using
is
not
even
the
last
version
of
the
library
office
like
that.
So
I
just
to
remind
the
other,
if
you
have
some
ideas
about
auto,
remove
completely
them
doing
the
CSS
hero
of
core
during
the
next
phase
or
during
the
next
next
phase.
H
C
Yeah
I
want
to
I
will
repeat
now
here
what
I'd
said.
I
want
to
be
brief,
but
I
said
on
the
executor.
I
think
the
query
is
removable,
I
think
if
we
want
to
remove
prototype,
not
just
friend
Jenkins
from
the
whole
ecosystem,
it
will
take
one
one
and
a
half
to
two
years
and
we
add
the
deprecation
notice.
We
should
yes,
because
if
we
want
movie,
it's
used
all
over
the
place,
it's
so
connected
to
everything
and
it's
really
difficult
to
to
remove.
C
H
And
just
for
the
phone,
we
got
a
report
recently
from
the
customer
Abudu
yahoo
UI
because
of
some
inner
HTML
tag
used
inside
the
february,
but
the
software
used
for
the
different
pen
tests
and
things
like
that
you
can
do
on
a
web
application
said
it
was
a
dumb
exercise
due
to
that,
so
it
was
confirmed
that
it
was
not
even
ability,
but
it's
still
something
that
is
outdated
and
potentially
our
knowing
for
us.
So
for
me,
it's
more
security
concern
and
if
we
can
say
in
two
years
we
get
rid
of
them.
C
I
mean
that's
not
my
goal,
so
I
mean
I
just
want
to
make
everyone
aware
of
this
of
the
severity,
so
that
is
going
to
take
one
year
to
remove
more
or
more
and
then
count
it
another
year
for
everybody,
every
plugin
to
be
up
to
date,
forever.
I
think
those
are
the
stakes:
jQuery
can
be
removed
safely.
The
who
you
I
can
protect
not.
G
B
C
H
H
C
No
I've,
no
juice,
no
liquid
in
anything
else.
Yes,
money,
not
a
script
so
and
that's
good
I
suggest.
Okay,
next
item
is
not
a
high
priority.
Trade
show
SEC
issues.
There
are
just
two
issues:
I
detective
with
on
current
Jenkins,
maybe
some
of
the
interest
with
the
typography
and
interest
with
a
buttons
change.
So
basically,
here
these
buttons.
F
The
translation,
assistance
plug-in
and
edges
with
this
because
it
has
infrastructure
which
is
supposed
to
receive
the
localization
suggestions,
so
the
button
I
contribute
my
translations
to
the
Jenkins
project.
Basically,
it
doesn't
work
right
now,
but
you
can
still
do
it
for
local
editing.
I,
have
long-standing
action
item
in
my
backlog,
even
not
in
the
backlog,
if
you
to
release
new
versions
which
in
force
participation
but
regarding
these
buttons,
I
wouldn't
be
concerned
at
all
right
now,
because
this
entire
functionality
needs
to
be
updated
or
removed.
You
want
to
do
that.
I.
F
C
I
Yes,
No
then
you'll
realize
that
there
was
an
issue
with
this
one.
When
the
alert
appeared
and
you
were
scrolling,
you
will
not
be
able
to
click
the
breadcrumbs
because
the
thief
actually
was
there
was
visible
and
was
displaying
so
well
explained.
I
first
was
trying
to
change
through
this
plane
on
when
the
alert
was
gone,
but
that
wouldn't
work
with
the
animation.
So
I
just
did
the
visibility
change
to
make
it
disappear.
Now
the
breadcrumbs
should
be
clickable
again.
So
if
you
just
click
in
the
files
change,
it
changed
several
easy
fix.
C
E
A
reminder
to
everyone
we're
at
a
precious
time
when
the
next
long-term
support
release
is
being
selected.
The
hyperlink
there
takes
you
to
the
mailing
list
where
that's
being
discussed
and
Tim
Giacomin,
just
barely
shared
his
insights
Daniel
as
well.
Don't
be
shy
about
sharing
your
your
insights
so
that
the
community
is
aware
of
what
you're
thinking
in
terms
of
evolution
so.
C
E
To
contribute
right,
anyone
and
insights
are
valued
here
in
terms
of
knowing
where
we
are
at
in
the
evolution.
I,
love,
batiste
observation
and
I.
Even
more
value,
Daniel's
in
terms
of
hey
to
dot
235,
looks
very
promising.
It's
okay
in
this
process
to
choose
and
not
yet
read
delivered
release
because
we
we've
changed
the
LTS
process
specifically
to
allow
that.
Well.
C
Me
for
me,
it's
great
because
he
believed
us
I'd
like
to
beat
the
buttons
to
be
featured
and
because
it's
in
the
more
UI
changes,
especially
the
bottom
there.
They
are
a
rather
dramatic
change.
So
that's
my
vote,
but
on
that
and
we
think
I'll
have
time
for
all
the
fixes
we
want,
because
in
two
weeks
is
more
than
enough
time
my
relief
I
don't
want
to
jinx
anything
so
but
yeah.
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Mark
for
the
clarification
I
will
I
will
also
comment
so.