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Executive Committee Meeting 12/20/2018 9:00 AM
A
B
A
C
A
Thank
you,
sir.
You
have
no
presentations
under
approval
of
minutes.
I
have
October
23rd
in
November
27th
2018
motion
to
approve
mr.
Bern
Sukkot
this
house.
Any
questions
about
those
minutes,
Corrections
all
those
in
favor.
Those
opposed
motion
carries
under
legislative.
Mr.
leer
is
there
anything
to
report
on
Thank.
E
Ok,
I'll
keep
it
brief.
We're
specifically
going
to
address
the
request
by
a
board
member
for
us
to
look
into,
or
do
a
cost
analysis
for
supplying
tablets
for
all
board
members
for
meetings
and
trying
to
eliminate
paper.
It
was
told
to
this
board
member
a
few
times
is
that
we've
looked
at
that
several
times
and
it's
not
cost-effective
at
this
time,
especially
given
that
you
still
have,
or
we
still
have
financial
situations,
cash
purchases
that
we
need
to
address.
E
First,
it's
maybe
something
you
can
address
once
that's
improved,
but
I
believe
the
chairman
and
the
board
has
said
we
need
to
keep
things
tight
until
we
get
our
reserves
up
to
a
sufficient
level,
but
the
Chairman
wanted
us
to
work
together,
my
department
and
his
office
to
work
together
to
do
that.
Actual
cost
analysis.
E
When
we
did
that
his
office
Nita
provided
the
information
that
which
we
looked
at,
how
much
paper
that
specifically
well
pretty
much
specifically
addresses
that
you
use
in
your
meetings,
because
that's
all
that
you
can
count
toward
that,
because,
if
you're,
if
your
premises,
you're
going
to
save
money
based
on
the
amount
of
paper
produced
for
your
report,
that's
what
you
have
to
look
out
and
she
produced
that
paper.
I,
believe
we
have
it
and
a
handout
here.
I'm
sorry,
I
didn't
bring
mine
with
ya.
A
It's
the
well
the
second
page
on
your
your
sheet.
There
I
can
let
ya
so
yeah
the
for
2018
5000
sheet
cases,
basically
a
total
of
nine
hundred
and
twenty
three
dollars
for
paper
and
another
two
thousand
dollars
for
ink,
so
around
three
grand
total
for
the
preparation
of
the
packets.
Roughly
it's
not
including
man-hours.
It's
not,
including
you
know,
you
know
extra
cost,
for
we
have
maintenance
contracts,
but
some
things
Anita
did
you
have
some
dad
to
that?
I.
F
A
F
E
I
would
not
rather
go
to
digital,
and
we
let
that,
if
you
want
to
speak
about
that,
that's
fine
for
you
to
speak,
but
there
are
more
people
that
said:
they're
not
ready
to
go
to
the
digital
format
completely
on
a
tablet
form,
because
there
are
restrictions.
On
top
of
that,
you
it's
not
something
that
you
could
take
home.
If
it's
going
to
be,
am
I
interfering
with
where
you
want
to.
A
Do
no,
no
just
that
they
would
sit
here
at
the
board
meeting.
They
would
be
fixed
to
this
room.
There
wouldn't
be
something
you
could
take
home
couldn't
be
using
on
your
home.
Wi-Fi
they'd
be
hooked
into
the
Wi-Fi
here
they
would
be
assets
for
the
board
here
once
there.
You
can't
have
that
benefit
to
be
because
we
can't
monitor
what's
going
on
on
those
tablets
at
home
and
they
become
foible.
Somebody
starts,
you
know
the
looking
at
your
cookies
and
all
that
other
stuff.
E
So
a
a
tablet.
That's
this
big
that
you
could
barely
read,
because
it's
cheap
doesn't
solve
the
problem
right.
So
now,
you're
into
a
five
six
$700
at
a
minimum
tablet:
Egyptian!
Well,
you
can
see
once
you
start
multiplying
that
time.
Schneider
there's
no
way
that
paper,
it
costs
more
than
doing
that,
plus
they
break
you
got
you
got
to
do
all
the
other
things
that
have
to
happen
and
I
have
to
establish
a
security
basis
which
I
would
have
to
say.
E
The
only
one
I
feel
comfortable
with
is
the
iPad
architecture,
and
that's
because
you
can't
get
an
app
on
an
iPad
for
the
most
part
that
hasn't
gone
through
their
infrastructures.
So
it's
vetted
with
an
Android
which
I
do
like
in
or
tablets
you
can
click
a
checkbox
and
then
you
can
go
download
whatever
you
want
to
on
it.
Well
that
by
definition
is
not
secure,
so
we
have
to
eliminate
those
model.
A
Yeah,
the
other
thing
isn't
and
just
to
kind
of
cut
through
this
a
little
bit,
someone
says
like
the
schools
get
well
the
school's
buy
and
for
10
cents
on
the
dollar.
We
don't.
Okay,
that's
another
thing
to
consider:
they
get
those
deals
from
Apple
directly
that
they
pay
a
fraction
of
what
this
body
would
spend.
So,
if
you're
cutting
to
the
chase
at
the
bottom
here,
it's
a
four
year
payback
just
on
the
the
cost
of
the
tablets
on
paper
and
ink
cost,
and
you
have
to
replace
these
things
every
three
or
four
years.
A
So
there's
really
not
a
cost
savings
to
doing
tablets.
We
wouldn't
pay
for
the
Wi-Fi
on
these.
You
know
to
be
Wi-Fi
enabled
they
would
only
you
know,
because
you
we're
not
going
to
send
them
home.
So
there's!
No,
you
know
we
would
not
do
that.
That's
an
unnecessary
benefit
so
and,
as
Kevin
mentioned,
there
are
probably
a
handful
of
people
who
wouldn't
use
them
anyway.
They
want
the
paper
and
we
would
have
to
supply
that
paper.
So
we
do
send
all
these
documents
electronically.
A
If
you
want
to
print
them
out,
you
can
print
them
out.
So
while
this
isn't
a
vote
item,
we
said
we
bring
it
to
executive
and
show
you
that
right
now,
it's
just
not
cost-effective.
If
we
had
extra
money,
would
it
still
be
a
good
use
of
money
if
they
would
sit
here
on
the
tables
fixed
to
the
table?
Well,
we
can
talk
about
that
when
we
have
eight
million
dollars
in
the
bank-
and
we
don't
have
to
borrow
anything
anymore
so
does
that
satisfy
the
committee?
Okay
and
I
want
to
make.
E
Sure
I
would
like
to
add:
there's
nothing
preventing
you
from
taking
a
couple
meetings
worth
of
checks
and
buying
your
tablets.
We
will
help
you
set
that
up
so
you're
not
prevented
from
bringing
your
own
in
here.
It's
just
once
you
once
it
becomes
the
cost
of
the
county,
there's
certain
standards
that
we
have
to
go
by
to
do
it
and
that
drives
the
cost
up
with
it.
So
if
you
feel
like
I'm,
not
saying
that
you
can't
have
tablets,
if
you
do
want
to
go
to
tablets
and
buy
your
own,
we
will
help
you.
E
A
E
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
you
mean
in
general
you
right.
Yes,
yes,
you
all
get
it
through
email.
You
get
the
fact.
But
again,
that's
not
all
your
packets,
like
Dell,
may
do
a
presentation.
A
lot
of
that
paperwork.
That's
not
been
digitized.
The
shares
may
bring
something
and
a
lot
of
that's
not
video
I.
Believe.
A
H
It's
not
yeah
the
well.
The
applicant
has
to
produce
at
least
two
copies
of
everything
because
they
have
to
be
filed
at
the
county.
Clerk's
office
actually
paper
copies,
and
so
could
we
distribute
to
the
board
in
digital
it's
possible,
but
it
doesn't
always
come
in
in
a
format
that
can
be
scanned,
sometimes
there's
large
papers
with
it.
H
Sometimes
it's
spiral-bound,
so
there's
staff
time
to
take
all
that
apart
and
do
that
and
in
the
we
put
that
cost
on
to
the
applicant
for
those
large
packets
I
think
that's
part
of
the
problem
why
this
is
a
part
of
the
issue.
We've
had
a
lot
of
large
packets
this
year
from
Zoning
Board,
and
but
we
put
that
cost
on
to
the
applicants
and
made
them
supply
us
with
50
copies
of
everything
in
paper.
So
it.
H
E
You
and
one
last
thing
is
so
it's
questions
brought
up
again,
so
you
understand
the
tablets,
the
end
device.
You
have
to
build
the
infrastructure
first,
that
the
tablet
can
take
advantage
of,
and,
as
you
see
by
the
many
things
we
talked
about,
that's
not
a
simple
process.
You
have
to
address
every
department.
Everything
that's
potentially
brought
here,
make
a
system
that
allow
it
to
be
digitized
with
easily
distributed,
so
you
can
take
advantage
of,
and
then
a
tablet
would
be
that
last
thing
that
takes
advantage
of
that
infrastructure.
A
A
I
Just
have
a
couple
things
that
I'd
like
to
cover
the
the
V
AC
is
not
meeting
in
December,
so
our
December
packets
won't
be
distributed
until
January
or
whatever,
but
we
have
totals
for
our
year
done
and
if
you
look
at
our
monthly
visitor
sheet
for
October,
we
had
284
visitors,
which
was
the
highest
that
we'd
had
through
all
of
18,
but
our
November,
even
topped
that
we
had
292
visitors
into
our
office.
I
So
our
total
for
financial
assistance
over
the
whole
year,
we've
serviced,
197
veterans,
we've
helped
58
homeless
veterans
and
given
out
229
of
our
discount
cards.
So
our
total
visitors
for
the
years,
including
November,
which
you
don't
have
on
your
sheet,
is
28
87.
So
just
just
shy
of
3,000
people
into
the
office
and
I
think
chairman
wheeler
before,
but
the
county
sheriff's
office
has
allowed
our
bus
to
be
parked
at
JC
DC
in
the
empty
garage
for
the
winter.
So
it's
not
sitting
back
here.
Our
drivers
are
actually
allowed
to
go
out.
I
There
get
the
bus
parked
their
own
vehicle
in
there
during
the
day
so
that
they
don't
have
to
clean
off
their
car
when
they
get
back
to,
but
I
do
want
to
thank
the
county
and
the
county
sheriff's
department
and
everything
for
that.
That's
that's
been
a
real
help,
but
other
than
that,
that's
really
what
I
just
wanted
to
say
is
thanks
and
we've
had
a
great.
I
We
just
handed
out
our
Christmas
baskets
for
the
indigent
veterans
on
Tuesday
we
passed
out
16
that
morning
the
baskets
were
donated
by
the
VFW
I
think
we
did
18
for
Thanksgiving
and
those
were
donated
by
a
motorcycle
club
and
the
American
Legion
in
a
Roma
park
gave
us
some
gift
cards
and
stuff
too.
So
we've
had
a
lot
of
outpouring
and
wonderful
donations
throughout
the
season.
So
that's
it.
Anybody
have
questions,
questions.
I
C
F
It
the
numbers,
look
big,
it's
a
plus
of
fourteen
and
a
minus
of
ten,
but,
as
you
can
see,
the
biggest
change
in
that
is
in
the
county
board
line.
Seven
new
members
added
six
termed.
So,
if
you
take
those
out,
there's
seven
new
hires
during
the
month
and
four
terminations
now,
if
you
remember
last
month
we
had
a
net
headcount
loss
of
eight
people.
F
We
had
ten
terminations
and
two
new
hires,
so
some
of
that
is
back
filling
those
positions,
but
we
still
have
a
number
of
positions
open
and
as
a
reminder,
if
you
compare
that
to
one
year
ago,
December
of
2017,
our
headcount
number
was
529.
You
can
see
in
total,
were
now
at
522,
so
seven
less
than
what
we
were
a
year
ago.
F
Any
questions
about
that,
okay,
other
than
that
it
has
been
all
things
open.
Enrollment
all
month,
our
open
enrollment
period
ran
from
December
1st
and
it
ends
today.
So
during
that
time
there
is
a
window
in
web
benefits
electronically,
that
our
employees
can
go
in
and
review
their
benefits
and
either
make
no
changes
or
make
additions.
F
Whatever
changes
they'd
like
to
make
to
their
coverages,
there
is,
what
will
happen?
Is
the
the
open
enrollment
window
will
shut
down
today
at
the
end
of
the
day
and
I
have
a
question
on
what
the
end
of
the
day
means?
Is
it
midnight
as
a
430
I?
Apparently
someone's
gonna
wait
till
the
very
last
minute.
F
I
have
a
call
in
I
assume
it's
midnight,
but
I'm,
not
positive
on
that
I'm
checking
with
website
people
on
that
some
benefits
support
so
sometime
today
it
will
end
and
that
window
will
go
away
on
the
24th
next
Monday
there
will
be
a
vendor
feed
of
all
that
data
over
to
all
the
vendors.
Well,
the
vendors
that
are
online,
so
that's
VSP,
dental
Dearborn
life
and
all
the
medical.
So
those
will
all
feed
over
on
the
24th.
F
I'll
spend
the
rest
of
the
week
reviewing
those
feeds
to
make
sure
and
testing
a
certain
number
of
people's
deductions
to
make
sure
those
came
over.
Okay,
so
I'll
do
that
review
through
the
week
and
then
the
net
the
following
week,
the
31st
we'll
do
payroll
and
that
January
4th
payroll
needs
those
new
deduction
amounts.
So
the
next
couple
weeks
will
be
busy
for
us.
F
If
employees
do
not
go
into
web
benefits
by
today,
they're
2018
selections
will
simply
roll
over
to
2019.
They
don't
go
away,
it's
a
passive
enrollment
that
just
takes
what
they
have
now
and
rolls
it
over
and
I
want
to
talk
just
a
little
bit
about
the
culture
change
that
we're
enacting
this
year.
It
was
a
big
change
for
our
employees.
F
What
we
did
was
I
made
a
video
that
talked
through
if
one's
laughing
I
made
a
video
and
it
it
turned
out
to
be
20
minutes
long,
just
shy
at
20
minutes
long
that
walked
through
the
main
sections.
I
put
all
the
benefit
summaries
online
I.
Actually,
at
one
point,
the
first
week
we
had
a
lot
of
questions
so
I
emailed
out
an
FAQ
sheet
for
all
the
departments.
That
said,
share
with
your
employees,
these
are
the
most
common
questions
I'm
receiving,
so
we
really
moved
to
an
electronic.
F
There
are
a
couple
things
and
I
have
to
say:
I
did
hear
back
from
a
lot
of
employees
that
did
call
for
other
reasons.
Questions
said
they
liked
the
fact
that
it
was
a
video
and
they
could.
It
was
a
lot
more
convenient
for
them
that
they
didn't
have
to
go
to
a
mandatory
meeting
and
sit
in
there
and
to
something
that
may
or
may
not
apply
to
them.
F
The
other
thing
I
heard
a
couple
times
was
how
helpful
it
was
because
they
were
concerned
about
one
certain
section
and
didn't
quite
catch
it,
so
they
were
able
to
just
back
up
and
listen
to
it.
One
two
one
one
employee
told
me
well:
I,
listened
to
it
four
times
and
I
just
couldn't
catch
it,
so
he
called
me.
So
that's,
okay,
that's
good,
but
what
it
allows
them
everybody
to
do
is
do
this
at
their
own
pace
and
focus
on
the
pieces
of
the
open
enrollment
that
are
really
important
to
them.
F
So
I
feel
like
it
went
well.
I
didn't
get
I
didn't
get
any
complaints.
The
biggest
question
I
had
related
to
access
people
having
difficulty
when
you
go
into
a
website
once
a
year.
You
forget
what
your
password
is,
or
especially
for
our
employees
that
aren't
on
the
Paylocity
system
or
are
perhaps
salaried
and
don't
access
the
web
time
system
every
day
and
aren't
used
to
going
in.
So
there
was
some
challenges
there,
which
is
really
not
difficult.
I
would
help
them
make
sure
they
got
access
and,
and
then
I'd
go
through.
F
So
from
my
perspective,
it
seemed
a
positive
thing
and
I.
It
was
really
beneficial
for
me
to
talk
to
I,
can't
tell
you.
The
number
of
employees
I've
talked
to
over
the
last
two
weeks,
probably
easily
over
a
couple
hundred.
It
was
literally
I'm
on
the
phone
and
I
get
off
the
phone
and
there's
two
new
voicemails
I,
listen
to
the
voice.
Mails
I
hang
up
there's
another
voicemail.
It
was
crazy
how
quick
they
were
coming
through
so
but
it's
good
and
it
gave
me
an
opportunity
to
perhaps
build
a
rapport
with
employees.
F
So
it's
important
for
them
to
know
if
they
have
questions
or
concerns
throughout
the
year
that
I'm
accessible,
so
I
think
that
was
a
positive
thing,
so
hopefully,
from
the
employee
perspective
and
I'll
be
talking
to
the
department
heads
that
you
know
once
this
is
finished,
what
their
perspective
of
the
situation
was,
but
it
really
was
a
big
culture
change,
not
quite
done
yet.
We
had
another
10
days
of
work
yet
to
do
but
we're
getting
there
so.
J
A
Was
another
big
part
of
this,
and
we
might
have
mentioned
that
before
because
we
had
some
issues
well,
I
was
in
this
meeting
and
they
didn't
talk
about
that
and
I
made
me
a
decision
based
on
this,
and
you
never
said,
and
that
person
is
no
longer
here,
and
so
that
was
another.
It
was
a
consistency
thing
so
every
year,
we'll
just
probably
change
the
benefits
part
of
the
video
right.
She
won't
have
to
do
the
intro
again,
we'll
just
change
the
benefits
part
of
it,
including
your
documents
up,
unless
you
want
to,
of
course,.
A
You
alrighty
under
administrative
issues,
resignations
appointment,
sorry,
appointments
I,
have
the
appointment
of
my
claw
Haney
to
the
khaki
county.
Ethics
Commission
reappointment
of
Len
I
want
to
say
Kukoc
to
the
set
correct
anyone,
no
okay,
Kukoc
to
the
micawber
drainage,
district,
reappointment
of
Bruce
Scott's
motive
as
commissioner
of
the
Spring
Creek
drainage,
district
reappointment
of
patrick
o'brian
to
the
Essex
Township
Fire,
Protection,
District
and
I
need
a
motion
to
combine
and
approve
those
if
I
could
mr.
burns.
Second,
mr.
Peyton
any
questions
comments.
All
those
in
favor
say
those
opposed
same
sign,
alrighty
few.
A
It
opening
announcements,
one
opening
on
the
GAR
Creek
drainage
district,
two
openings
on
manteno
number,
three
drainage
district,
one
opening
on
manteno
number,
nine
drainage
district,
one
opening
on
the
mini
Creek
drainage,
district,
one
opening
on
the
moments
and
Yellowhead
drainage
district
and
one
opening
on
the
Essex
Township
Fire
Protection
District
we're
just
waiting
on
that
application
to
come
back
in.
That
was
when
we
kept
checking
on
and
they
were
reappointed
until
a
successor
could
be
appointed.
So
they
can
do
business
I've
mentioned
that
before
under
other
business.
A
A
Please-
and
you
said
up
here
with
us
so
at
at
this
juncture-
I
had
been
introduced
to
this
gentleman
because
we
have
a
capital
bill
coming
basically
in
Springfield,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
infrastructure
projects
here
in
the
county
and
part
of
the
the
the
goal
is,
is
to
have
this
gentleman
and
his
services
be
able
to
benefit
the
residents
of
Kankakee
County,
like
he
has
the
other
clients
that
have
been
here.
So
he
can
do
better
explanation
and
introduction
than
I
ever
could.
So
you
have
the
microphone,
sir.
L
L
The
the
governor-elect
will
has
made
this
his
number
one
priority.
He
and
I
met
on
it
yesterday,
in
fact
to
go
over
some
of
the
details
and-
and
this
occurs
about
once
every
decade,
so
that
the
key
to
a
capital
bill
being
of
significance
to
this
board,
as
well
as
every
other
government
institution
in
the
state
of
Illinois,
is
that
as
the
negotiations
move
forward,
it's
very
helpful
to
have
representation
down
in
Springfield
on
a
daily
basis.
Our
firm
I
founded
it.
L
27
years
ago,
after
I
left,
the
General
Assembly
I'd
been
a
member
elected
to
seven
terms
in
the
Illinois
House
of
Representatives.
We
we
have
been
very
successful.
We
currently
have
65
clients
that
we
represent
basically
split
between
the
public
sector
and
private
sector.
We
have
a
significant
number
of
corporate
clients
that
we
do
work
for
on
their
behalf
and
then
the
largest
by
far
group
of
government
clients.
L
The
question
we
get
normally
from
new
government
clients
is:
why
would
we
want
a
lobbyist?
Well,
you
know
what
nothing
in
Springfield
is
fair
and
if
anyone
everyone
in
this
room
has
had
to
run
for
public
office
and
it's
just
the
facts
of
life.
The
Cook
County,
where
I
come
from,
they
have
a
team
of
lobbyists
and
Cook
County
is
very
aggressive
to
make
sure
that
they
always
get
more
than
their
fair
share.
L
City
of
Chicago
has
a
team
of
lobbyists
and
that's
why
my
municipal
practice
grew
up
dramatically
over
the
last
20
plus
years,
because
we
represent
a
number
of
communities
outside
of
the
city
of
Chicago
who
oftentimes
are
ignored.
It's
not
that
they
don't
have
good
representation.
You
have
a
wonderful
state,
rep
and
a
wonderful
state,
senator
for
every
community
and
a
larger
community
might
have
to
Chicago
starts
with
37
members
in
the
house
and
19
members
in
the
Senate,
and
you
know
what
37
and
19
normally
beats
one
versus
one.
L
That's
why
people
like
us
go
in
on
behalf
of
our
clients,
make
sure
that
they're
at
the
table
make
sure
they
have
a
fair
opportunity
to
make
a
presentation
and
then
move
forward
and
try
to
accomplish
things.
My
initial
discussion
with
the
chairman
is
that
there's
a
number
of
transportation
needs
down
here
and
again
nothing's
fair.
We
probably
have
and
again
there's
no
definitive
answer,
but
we
probably
have
a
trillion
dollars
in
need
on
infrastructure
in
Illinois.
L
Now,
that's
a
pretty
significant
number
I
remember
when
billions
used
to
be
a
big
number,
but
we
have
just
ignored
infrastructure
and
done
minimal
maintenance.
For
many
many
many
years
all
you
have
to
do
is
drive
on
the
road
system
in
Illinois
and
then
you
get
into
local
streets
and
it's
sometimes
a
nightmare,
including
in
the
city
of
Chicago
costs.
Go
up.
If
you
don't
do
maintenance,
you
have
deterioration
and
that's
what
we
work
on.
L
So
the
capital
bill
that
will
be
brought
forward
in
the
Illinois
General,
Assembly
I
would
assume
will
be
somewhere
in
the
30
to
50
billion
dollar
range.
The
last
capital
bill
that
came
in
10
or
11
years
ago
was
30
1
billion
largest
in
the
history
of
Illinois.
This
one
will
be
bigger
where
we
could
really
have
a
huge
move.
L
If
there's
a
massive
federal
capital
bill,
Illinois
has
to
have
a
capital
bill,
because
there's
everything
is
done
on
a
matching
basis
and
if
we
don't
do
a
capital
bill,
we'll
be
left
behind,
because
other
states
have
done
things
significantly
over
the
last
number
of
years
to
put
themselves
in
a
position
to
draw
down
additional
federal
funding.
So
the
potential
is
significant.
L
The
super
system
in
Illinois
exists,
as
it
does,
because
it's
just
the
history
of
this
wonderful
state
and
we
we
would
be
more
than
happy
to
be
of
assistance
to
you
to
work
with
you.
You'd
set
the
priorities.
You'd
say
you
set.
What
you
think
is
the
most
important
things
we
need
to
work
on
and
then
our
job
is
to
implement.
What's
nice
about
an
agreement
with
our
firm
and
we
have
13
people,
13
people
in
Springfield
we're
the
biggest
firm.
L
We
have
the
most
clients,
we
believe
we're
always
at
the
table,
and
we
get
a
lot
done.
These
municipalities,
the
city
of
Melrose
Park
that
we
represent
in
suburban,
Cook
County
I,
got
hired
out
there
26
years
ago.
People
don't
keep
us
odd
because
they
like
us
and
they
sure
don't
like
me,
because
I
can
become
very
obnoxious
at
certain
times,
but
people
have
assigned
because
we
deliver
and
I
could
give
you
numerous
examples.
We
already
do
have
a
presence
here
in
Kankakee
County.
We
represent
Olivet
Nazarene
University
a
couple
of
years
ago.
L
L
Representative
Lindsey
Parkhurst
is
wonderful
for
us
to
work
with
because
she
really
gets
it
and
she
was
nice
enough
to
put
together
a
meeting
with
the
Department
of
Transportation
I
wasn't
able
to
attend
at
the
meeting,
because
I
had
a
conflict
and
something
else
I'm
fairly
familiar
with
the
Illinois
Department
transportation
back
in
1974
and
75
I
was
the
assistant
secretary.
I
was
a
number
two
guy
in
the
agency
when
I
got
elected
to
the
General
Assembly
in
1978
I
served
on
the
Transportation
Committee
for
my
14
years
and
I
chaired
that
committee.
L
For
10
years,
the
Illinois
Department
of
Transportation
sometimes
gets
lost
in
space
like
all
state
agencies,
like
all
local
government
agencies,
and
he
had
a
presentation
to
them
and
the
district
three
engineers
that
were
at
the
meeting
said
you
know
what
that
way
is
a
good
idea,
but
we
really
have
never
had
a
death.
So
you
know
what,
when
there's
a
death,
then
we
can
pay
attention.
That's
the
goddamnedest
stupidest
thing.
I've
ever
heard
my
life
and
I
hate
to
be
rude,
especially
with
some
wonderful
people
here
who
who
could
be
offended
by
me.
L
But
that's.
Why
I
try
to
get
things
done?
There
have
been
accident
acts
after
accident
through
the
hard
work
of
one
of
our
previous
governors
who
came
from
Kankakee
County.
The
Chicago
Bears
are
down
here
for
our
for
a
month
in
pre-season
and
there's
all
kinds
of
people
trying
to
get
across
that
road,
and
you
know
what
a
ped
way
it
drives
me
nuts,
when
I
go
up
into
Cook
County,
where
I'm
from
and
I
see
ped
waves
everywhere.
L
Well,
if
it's
good
enough
for
Cook
County,
it
should
be
good
enough
for
Kankakee
County,
but
what
we
did
for
our
of
a
couple
years
ago.
There
was
a
major
funding
issue
that
would
save
them
a
million
dollars
a
year
in
interest
and
the
only
thing
they
drove
me
nuts.
Is
they
contacted
me
in
November
and
said
if
it's
not
signed
by
December
31st
of
two
years
ago,
they
would
lose
the
financing
benefit.
A
million
dollars
a
year
for
the
University
I
contacted
your
local
congressperson
who's.
L
A
very
good
friend,
Robin
Kelly
I,
went
to
my
other,
really
good
friend,
who
is
just
a
jewel
in
our
Illinois
delegation.
Congressman
Mike
Quigley
Mike
Quigley
has
put
himself
in
a
position.
He
will
be
an
appropriation
subcommittee
chairman
in
Washington,
starting
in
January
that
position.
It's
called
the
College
of
Cardinals,
there's
only
seven
of
them.
If
you're
gonna
get
money
into
Illinois,
it's
the
House,
Appropriations
Committee
and
the
Senate
that'll
get
make
it
Mike
helped
dramatically.
L
He
and
Robin
worked
tirelessly
with
the
USDA
and
we
got
it
approved
by
this
I
think
it
was
approved
on
the
29th
of
December
million
dollars
here
in
interest
savings
in
perpetuity.
So
that's
one
example:
we
have
done
work
at
Kankakee,
Community
College,
and
we
will
continue
to
to
work
with
them.
Their
needs
are
demanding.
L
We
got
hired
about
four
years
ago.
There
was
a
six
million
dollar
grant
that
they
were
given
ten
years
ago,
but
the
money
was
never
released
so
for
four
years
they
sat
there
waiting
for
this
grant
waiting
for
this
grant
and
they
approached
us
that
it
did
take
a
while.
It
took
us
30
days
and
we
got
it
released
and
and
they
began
construction
and
it's
a
six
million
dollar
project.
Here's
the
problem,
the
previous
administration
or
I
should
say
the
current
administration
saw
fit
that
that
project
wasn't
worthy
enough
to
continue.
L
L
Don't
want
to
take
away
from
your
state
senator
hi
Hutchinson,
because
we
worked
closely
with
her
also
but
Lindsey
went
to
bat
and
after
two
years
of
pounding
and
I
mean
we
won
everywhere
we
got
the
state
treasurer
involved.
We
went
to
the
State
Comptroller,
we
worked,
the
governor's
office,
which
you
know
I,
could
talk
to
that
wall
and
accomplish
the
same
thing.
I
get
wood
from
the
previous
or
the
current
administration,
and
this
is
not
a
partisan
thing.
L
I've
been
in
Springfield
since
1970
I've
worked
with
every
Republican
governor
I've
worked
with
every
Democratic
governor
and
everybody
had
a
commitment.
Let's
make
Illinois
a
state
that
we
can
be
proud
of.
Previous
governor
was
smart
as
heck
I
should
say.
The
current
governor
is
smarter
psyche
still
our
governor
and
he
is
a
bright
guy,
but
you
know
what
his
attitude
was.
It's
my
way
or
the
highway.
We
don't
negotiate.
L
I
have
my
standards,
I
have
my
beliefs
and
that's
not
how
you
get
things
done
in
Springfield
and
for
four
years
we
took
a
very
bad
situation
and
made
worse.
We've
got
a
good
if
everything
goes
well,
it'll
be
another
20
years
before
Illinois
is
back
it
exactly
where
it
should
be
part
of
it
has
to
do
with
our
pension
mass,
which
is
significant
and
I'm,
not
against
pensions.
But
we've
got
some
things
in
place
that
need
to
be
altered.
You
know
and
I'm
talking
about
current
pension
benefits,
but
moving
forward.
L
There
has
to
be
changes
so
bottom
line
is.
We
know
how
to
get
the
job
done.
We'd
be
thrilled
with
the
opportunity
to
represent
you.
It's
your
decision
to
make.
Oh
the
others
we've
also
down.
Here
we
have
the
school
district
111
and
we've
gotten
some
grants
for
them
significantly
so
I
mean
we
take
care
of
business.
Our
job
is
to
help
you
do
your
job
and
if
we
can
get
capital
additional
capital
dollars
into
the
county,
that
you
don't
have
to
use
your
local
dollars.
That
will
make
a
huge
difference.
As
you
move
forward.
A
So
just
so,
you
know
the
reason
I
asked
just
running
to
come
down
for
executive,
even
though
this
is
really
a
finance
discussion
we'll
have
after
this
meeting,
because
he
has
other
meetings
he
has
to
be
at
so
I
wanted.
You
exist,
executive
and
those
that
are
on
this
community
that
are
finance
to
here.
You
know
this
is
not
just
throwing
money
at
something.
A
If
this
is
an
investment
on
taking
that
bite
at
the
Apple
that
normally
we
won't
get,
but
every
ten
plus
years
and
and
its
strategic
and
it's
well
thought
out
and
I
think
we
have
the
right
person
or
else
I
would
have
brought
them
here,
and
so
please
questions
mr.
roll-top.
Let
me
go
ahead
and
let
him
do
that.
Thank.
G
L
We
have
no
other
counties.
This
will
be
our
first
County,
but
we
are
in
negotiations
right
now
with
Lake
County,
so
that
I
assume
we
will
probably
get
Lake
County.
But
you
know
right
now
that
you
would
be
our
first
County,
but
I
think
what
we
would
do
is
no
different
than
what
we
do
for
every
or
any
other
government
entity
that
we
represent
all.
A
Not
to
demean
you
CCI
at
all,
but
they're
not
going
to
get
into
the
offices
that
this
gentleman
can
walk
into
and
and
I
say
that
is
the
Iron
Triangle
in
Springfield
that
those
are
people.
Those
are
phones
that
get
picked
up.
So
you
see,
ci
is
important
for
us
and
we
should
work
with
them
and
we
will
continue
to
work
with
them.
But
this
is
a
whole
different
approach
to
something
that
is
substantial
and
I
say
that
now.
L
That's
that's
great,
and,
and
you
know
we
have
the
same
thing
of
municipal
level,
especially
up
in
Cook
County.
Every
municipality
in
Cook,
County
outside
of
the
city,
is
part
of
what's
called
a
CAG
conference
on
government's
west
central
municipal
conference,
south
suburban
mayors
and
managers
Northwest
municipal
conference.
So
so
you
have
your
conference
groups,
but
they
don't
go
down
a
Springfield
and
worry
about
town,
a
over
town
B,
because
they
can't
you
know
they.
It's
25,
30
minutes.
L
Apologies
who
band
together
to
work
on
large
issues,
no
different
than
the
Illinois
Municipal
League,
which
is
made
up
of
every
municipality
in
Illinois.
They
represent
the
the
concept
of
municipal
services,
County
services,
school
district
services.
What
we
do
is
we
worry
about
our
clients
and
when
there's
a
capital
bill,
you
know
a
group
and
what's
it
called,
you
see
a
UCC
I.
They
can't
pick
and
choose
you
know
well
here
we
would
like
to
help
Kankakee
to
the
detriment
of
somebody
else.
G
A
I
believe,
on
the
federal
level,
we
can
receive
things
that
some
municipalities
can't,
and
so
we
can
apply
for
things.
I
want
to
say,
like
safe
neighborhood
grants
that
we
pass
through
to
the
city,
so
they
can
have
people
that
are
employed
by
the
city
police
force
that
them
on
their
own
or
they're
not
eligible
for
there's
other
things.
When
we're
talking
about
the
river,
which
is
going
to
take
substantial,
federal
and
state
commitment.
These
are
other
things
that
you
know.
Indiana
is
doing
right
now
on
their
side.
A
It's
why
I
spent
a
couple
of
days
in
Washington
talking
to
make
sure
everybody
knew
what
was
going
and
the
keiki
River
plan.
If
you
will,
but
that's
not
like
the
kind
of
money
that
we
would
ever
have
here
locally
or
even
on
the
state,
there
will
be
a
legislative
part
of
that
that
we're
gonna
ask
for
at
some
point
and
then
there
will
also
be
whether
it's
getting
into
the
farm
bill
to
get
the
you
know
the
farm
lobby
on
board
to
get
the
water
off
the
fields.
M
You,
mr.
chairman,
this
is
more
of
a
comment
than
it
is
question.
I
just
feel
with
a
capital
bill,
this
magnitude.
We
need
somebody
in
the
room
and
no
disrespect
to
our
elected
officials
in
Springfield,
but
we
know
mr.
román
said
the
environment
in
Springfield.
You
need
to
be
at
the
table
and
I
think
we
need
to
have
somebody
at
the
table
in
the
room,
go
on
the
corner
battle
for
us
and
bring
something.
M
N
A
Yeah
the
and
it's
the
MPO,
our
Metropolitan
Planning
Organization,
how
we
prioritize
all
of
the
projects
I
mean.
What
we're
doing
here
could
benefit
the
city
of
Kankakee.
It
could
benefit
bourbon,
a
Parkway.
It
could
the
things
that
we
are
not
exclusive
of
the
other
municipalities,
so
were
the
umbrella.
That's
going
after
most
of
those
things
but,
as
we
all
know,
with
the
largest
pharmaceutical
expansion
in
the
world,
a
lot
of
their
needs
are
transportation
infrastructure
and
that
kind
of
money
we
will.
We
won't
have
here
that
road
project
that
I
died.
A
District
3
now
has
at
the
top
of
their
list
for
our
community.
That's
gonna
be
substantial
and
we
need
help
with
that
and
it's
been
our
problem
for
20
years.
That's
been
the
worst
corner
in
the
county,
and
now,
with
that
massive
expansion
out
there,
we
need
help,
and
this
is
the
way
to
get
it.
And
so
to
your
point,
I've
already
started
talking
to
department
heads
give
me
your
list
of
top
two
or
three.
A
D
L
To
let
you
know,
I'm
pretty
good,
but
you're,
not
hiring
me
you're,
hiring
a
team
Cheryl,
actually
I'm,
a
former
Democratic
legislature
I
the
city
of
Chicago.
So
you
know
what
but
I'm
bipartisan,
but
I'm
a
Democrat
Sheryl
axe
is
a
former
Republican
state
senator
out
of
the
Mount
Prospect
area
uh-huh.
L
I
have
five
former
african-america
there's
still
african-american,
but
for
five
former
legislators
who
are
african-american
because
we
have
a
number
of
African
American
clients,
City
Hazel
Crest,
but
Thorton
Township
I
could
go
on
and
on
but
and
I
said
why
of
self
Allen?
But
that's
a
you
know,
that's
a
that's
a
white
mayor
with
an
african-american
constituency,
but
does
good
things.
You
know.
Diner
graph
is
one
smart
mayor
yeah!
Well,
you
know:
I
asked
Don
about
al
Ronin,
hey
I,
offend
them,
sometimes
with
that.
L
Just
because
I
I
am
very
brusque,
but
you
know
what
you
want.
Somebody
who's
gonna
get
the
job
done.
You
want
somebody,
who's
gonna,
be
an
advocate.
If
you
hire
a
lawyer,
you
want
a
lawyer,
who's,
gonna
fight
for
you.
If
you
hire
an
architect,
you
want
somebody,
build
a
pretty
doggone
good
building
and
design
it
right
same
thing
with
an
engineer.
That's
why
you
hire
professional
lobbying
services,
get
somebody
who's
gonna,
be
at
the
table
and
fight
for
you.
L
My
final
comment:
if
you
can
find
somebody
better
who's,
got
a
better
relationship
with
Mike
Madigan,
John,
Cullerton
and
JB
Pritzker
than
me
hire
them,
because
if
you
don't
I
will,
because
nobody
has
a
better
relationship
with
them
than
I
do
I
got
on
Pritzker.
18
months
ago,
I
hosted
a
breakfast
forum.
We
had
20
well
14
or
15,
mayor's
three
or
four
state
senators:
three
County
Commissioners
from
Cook
County
and
two
or
three
of
the
real
monster.
Township
chairmen
and
a
Township
chairman
in
Cocke
County
Frank
Zuccarello
from
Thornton
Township.
L
We
carried
Pritzker
46,000
at
5,000,
okay,
biggest
turnout
ever
in
the
history
of
Thornton,
Township
and
I.
Give
Pritzker
a
lot
of
credit.
You
know
not.
A
lot
of
people
want
to
put
in
a
hundred
and
seventy
1
million
of
their
own
dollars
to
become
governor.
You
know
the
economic
return
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense,
but
as
I
tell
people
when
you're
worth
three
point
four
billion
when
you
get
out
of
bed
in
the
morning,
you're
gonna
make
about
350
million
in
interest
off
your
money.
L
So
he
took
a
half
a
year
interest
and
he
will
be
governor
and
you
know
what
he's
gonna
do
the
right
thing
he's
we're
gonna
try
to
get
the
debt,
which
is
unbelievable,
get
that
under
control
over
the
next
four
to
eight
years,
get
the
pension
situation
resolved
to
where
we
can
continue
to
give
pensions
and,
as
I
tell
all
my
Union
friends
and
I
have
a
lot
of
Union
friends
and
I
was
a
strong
Union.
Democrat
I
rather
have
a
guaranteed
pension,
that's
gonna,
be
there
then
go
bankrupt.
L
You
know
there
are
some
folks
who
say
you
know
what
the
only
solution
is
bankrupt.
The
system's
you
know:
that's
not
the
way
you
treat
people
who
spent
their
life
trying
to
do
something
right
for
the
state
of
Illinois,
so
I
am
NOT.
Gonna
pontificate
I,
look
forward
to
working
with
you
if
it
works
out
and
if
not
good
luck,
I'm
sure
everything
else
will
take
care
of
itself.
So.
A
Unless
there's
no
other
questions,
this
isn't
a
vote
here.
It's
a
vote
in
finance,
but
I
want
to
make
sure,
because
most
people
are
on
both
that
they
would
have
a
chance
to
hear
the
presentation.
And
if
some
are
you,
are
you
able
to
stick
around
or
are
you
gonna
head
out?
Okay,
I
didn't
know
because
we're
gonna,
if
we
could,
if
we
wanted
to
amend
the
gen,
amend
the
agenda
to
vote
right
away,
if
not,
they
can
take
off.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
there's
no
other
questions.
K
A
All
right,
I
see
okay,
so
when
we
get
into
Finance
well
we'll
talk
about
that.
But
I
can
tell
you
that
that's
actually
I
believe
less
than
the
last
lobbyist
that
we
hired
some
years
ago
and
which
we
got
bupkis
for
actually
we
got
a
grant
that
was
never
given
to
us
and
cost
us
by
two
hundred
thousand
dollars.
Well.
L
Here
the
good
news
is
I
came
at
the
bargain-basement
rate
and
the
bad
news
for
you
is
when
I'm
real,
effective,
you're
gonna
be
very
pleased
to
give
me
more
retainer
yeah.
Let
me
prove
and
let
our
team
prove
that
will
get
the
job
done
for
you.
You
know
again,
I
wouldn't
have
these
these
clients.
You
know
we
started
the
firm
27
years
ago.
I've
still
got
five
or
six
of
my
original
clients.
L
L
A
Need
more
information?
Okay,
moving
on
to
number
15,
it's
the
last
item
on
the
agenda.
Here
we
had
received
a
request.
Actually
there
was
more
than
a
request.
It
was
a
mandate
to
pay
out
a
what
was
remaining
in
the
department
heads
budget
to
their
chief
deputy
at
the
end
of
the
year
as
a
as
a
bonus,
and
my
first
inclination
was
is
well
that's
unfortunate.
A
The
second
thing
was
is:
is
this
even
legal
I
know
that
it's
distasteful,
so
I
had
to
look
in
so
I
spent
some
time
with
the
state's
attorney
kind
of
what
I
thought
originally
was
is.
Is
that
we
control
lump
sum
budgets?
We
don't
control
the
light
items
that
are
spent
within
that
budget,
so
we
have
to
pay
it
out,
and
that
was
the
the
the
opinion
that
came
back
to
me.
We
there
is
nothing
with
policy
that
would
forbid
us
from
you
know.
A
Holding
this
now
we
did
have
some
situations
in
the
past
where
there
was
a
department
head
who,
outside
of
the
collectively
bargained
agreement,
gave
a
bonus
to
a
union
employee
that
we
can
forbid
because
we're
the
ones
that
sign
that
contract.
We
set
precedents
there
so
that
we'll
never
get
through
my
office
and
through
my
payroll
that
happened
before
we
got
here
so
I
can
tell
you
that
that
we
can
stop.
But
in
this
case
there
was
nothing
policy
wise.
We
can
do
to
stop
it
much
like
the
flowers.
A
A
So
I
am
asking
this
committee
to
do
a
similar
action,
and,
while
you
know
we
have
the
policy
that
we
have
written
up,
that
the
state's
attorney's
office
has
kind
of
looked
through
and
Nita
went
through
it,
we
kind
of
tighten
it
up.
This
would
go
into
the
policy
and
procedure
manual
and,
and
that's
what
I'm
asking
this
committee
to
do
is
just
to
put
this
in
place,
even
though
an
elective
department
head
can
go
outside
of
that.
If
they
so
choose.
Mr.
Hess,
do
you
have
a
question
or
a
motion?
A
M
N
K
G
M
Burke.
Thank
you
that
quick
question
how
much
money
we
borrow
would,
over
the
last
couple
years.
A
C
M
C
A
O
A
K
A
O
The
problem
that
I
could
see
is
if
we
allow
this,
then
it
would
be
kind
of
like
to
mr.
Olaf's
point
expected
in
other
departments
and
in
our
current
situation.
I,
don't
think
we
can
allow
that
to
happen
at
all,
I
mean
that
that's
just
my
opinion
on
the
on
this
in
in
in
the
government
setting.
You
know
us
private
business
owners.
You
know,
bonuses
are
part
of
the
salary.
A
A
They're
elected
and
they
they
are
not
bound
by
any
of
our
policies
and
procedure
manual,
so
I
did
confirm
with
the
state's
attorney's
office
and
they're
in
agreement
that
that
is
the
case.
So
the
policy
wise
this
the
office
holder
has
the
ability
much
like
flowers,
you
know
with
sending
bereavement
flowers
they
can
comply
or
they
cannot
comply.
Where
was
nothing
we
can
do
about
that
whatsoever?
They
just
have
to
hold
in
their
decision.
So
all
right
have
a
motion
in
a
second
any
other
questions.
All
those
in
favor
those
opposed
motion
carries.