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Planning, Zoning & Agriculture Committee Meeting 02/16/2022 9:00am
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Number
four
and
number
five
have
been
sold
to
other
individuals
and
they
are
not
interested
in
selling
them
to
us
property
number
one
we
purchased
we've
demolished
and
we
are
waiting
on
reimbursement
for
that
particular
prod
part
of
the
project
which
I
have
been.
I
have
every
indication
from
the
state
that
we
will
receive
our
money
by
the
end
of
this
month
and
then
that
that
property
will
be
finalized
still
to
go.
We
have
the
property
number
two
and
number
three.
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It
is
possible
this.
The
the
property
once
completed
would
be
owned
by
the
county,
but
because
it's
floodplain
property
through
this
program
there
are
restrictions
on
what
we
can
do
with
the
property
correct,
I
believe,
a
boat
ramp,
it
would
be
allowable,
correct.
The
storage
of
equipment
may
not
be
right.
A
parking
lot
may
not
be.
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Yes,
I
apologize
for
being
my
lover.
The
the
whole
purpose
of
this
was
is
the
board
at
the
time
we
were,
we
were
limited
on
available
cash
in
hand,
so
we
didn't
want
to
get
overextended
because
either
correct
or
incorrect
board
members
felt
that
if
what
if
the
state
doesn't
pay
us,
that's
why
we
were
only
doing
two
and
then
getting
reimbursed
and
then
gonna
do
the
other
two,
and
you
already
see
what
that
course
of
action
cost
us.
It
cost
us
quite
a
bit,
so
we
snoozed
and
we
losed
as
they
say.
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One
concern
because
if
if
a
tree
is
falling
on
that
particular
property-
and
I
know
we
say
we're
gonna
deal
with
the
diminished
costs
or
whatever,
if
it
has
felt,
fall
on
that,
if
it's
instilled
on
that
property,
are
they
waiting
for
them?
She
wants
to
kind
of
cover,
take
care
of
that,
but
we
don't
have
to,
or
are
we
going
to
still
including
the
demolition
costs
every
cautionary
the.
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Under
our
current
rules,
so
the
applicant
should
have
known
what
those
rules
are,
and
the
applicant
also
admitted
at
the
hearing
that
if
he
didn't
get
the
variance
he
would
just
buy
the
frontage
he
needs.
So
therefore
he
can
comply
with
the
law.
He
should
comply
with
the
law,
so
no
variance
should
be
issued.
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Zoning
board
of
appeals
heard
this
last
monday
and
recommend
approval
seven
to
zero,
and
there
are
four
conditions,
though,
that
they
placed
on
the
approval,
and
I
can
read
them
to
you.
One
all
parking
shall
be
contained
on
the
subject
site
and
no
on-street
parking
will
be
allowed
the
roads.
I
don't
know
if
you've
ever
been
out
to
diversity,
they're,
relatively
narrow
and
one-way
roads.
They
did
not
want
any
parties
and
participants
of
these
parties
potentially
blocking
the
road
for
emergency
service
vehicles.
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Number
two:
all
activities
pertaining
to
parties
shall
be
held
within
the
building
and
not
in
the
parking
lot
number
three.
The
occupancy
load
of
the
building
will
be
determined
by
the
mantino
fire
department,
which
is
law
anyway,
but
it's
reiterated
here
and
the
facility
will
be
in
compliance
with
all
laws,
ordinance
and
codes.
At
all
times
they
did
contact
the
health
department
and
since
they
are
not
serving
food
directly
themselves,
you
can
bring
in
your
own
food.
There
was
no
health
license
needed
and
we
did
ask
if
they
were
intending
to
serve
alcohol.
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I
guess
is
why
I
should
be
more
about
three
blocks
away,
because
if
it
starts
out
with
kids
parties,
it
turns
into
bands
at
two
in
the
morning,
and
I
don't
want,
because
we
would
be
the
ones
policing
that
yes,
we
would
be,
and
so
that's
why
I'm
asking
about
that.
You
know
it's.
How
close
is
that
in
proximity
and
the
the
noise
ordinances
that
we
have?
That's
the
only
concern
I
have.
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I
think
they
could
be
problematic
because,
before
you
is
a
zoning
issue,
not
a
building
code
issue
so
holding
this
up
for
building
codes,
if
he
doesn't,
the
special
use
permit
would
go
away
if
he
doesn't
upgrade
the
building
properly
did
his
billing
permit
and
his
occupancy
permit.
He
has
12
months
to
do
that.
Okay,
otherwise
the
special
use
permit
would
automatically
be
revoked
now
to
address.
Mr
wheeler's
concerns
those
before
conditions
or
conditions
of
the
zoning
board
placed
on
it.
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We
receive
both
state
and
federal
dollars
for
rural
transit.
Each
year
we
apply
under
the
chairman's
signature
for
for
those
funds
we
receive
about
and
sixty
six
thousand
dollars
in
what
is
considered
to
be
fta,
section,
5311
funds
and
then
around
1.27
million
in
what
is
downstate
operating
assistance
program.
So
we
combine
those
two
together
in
kind
of
a
blended
equation
where
sometimes,
what
80
percent
of
our
funds
can
be
federal
and
sometimes
65
can
be
federal
and
we
offer
around
700
000
worth
of
transit
a
year.
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It
ties
to
in
rural
transit
being
able
to
maximize
your
state
and
federal
dollars
with
the
appropriate
match
dollars.
I
mean
one
thing
for
this
committee
to
consider:
the
county
board
does
put
fifteen
thousand
dollars
a
year
or
historically
has
to
to
rural
transit,
so
part
of
that
match
comes
from
from
county
funds.
Some
of
that
match
comes
from
providers
locally
social
service
agencies
that
that
need
rides
and
we
recently
applied
to
be
a
participant
in
age
guide,
which
is
the
former
area
agency
on
aging
grant.
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So
we
would
be
hauling
seniors
through
and
matching
that
with
someone
else's
dollars
for
for
our
system,
and-
and
I
would
say
that
rural
transit
here
is
not
very
different
from
rural
transit
anywhere
in
the
state
of
illinois
or
the
midwest
for
that
matter,
where
we
do
struggle
on
providing
that
that
local
match.
So
it's
always
trying
to
find
ways
to
maximize
our
dollars
and
offer
more
rides.
We
are
still
kind
of
operating
in
in
covid
limbo.
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I
know
there
was
a
an
article
that
ran
in
the
journal
after
we
announced
the
the
bus,
barn
and
new
vehicle
grant
that
we
received
on
a
rebuild
and
you'll
see
our
ridership
numbers
are
down,
but
unfortunately,
with
social
distancing
and
bus
rides.
Our
costs
are
pretty
static
as
it
relates
to
those
rides.
So
it's
it's
kind
of
about
a
balancing
that
we
have
a
fleet
peak
fleet
of
12
vehicles.
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so
I
guess
I
mean
to
look
at
the
system
in
its
entirety.
We
do
what
is
a
deviated
fixed
route
for
our
commuter
route,
so
that
runs
between
city
of
kankakee
transfer
station
stops
in
sun,
river
terrace
and
then
in
moments
for
jobs,
and
these
are
our
ride
like
every
hour
on
the
hour
a
bus
is
leaving,
and
so
that's
kind
of
the
one
side
of
the
business
and
that's
about
that's
a
little
over
half
of
our
rides.
The
other
portion
of
our
business
is
what
we
call
demand
response.
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So
this
is
where
someone
calls
for
a
ride
for
whatever
reason,
and
they
can
receive
a
ride
based
on
on
scheduling,
bus
availability.
Things
like
that
to
typically
to
come
from
the
non-urban
area
into
the
urbanized
core
for
shopping
or
doctor's
appointments
or
really
whatever
they
want
it
to
be.
But
we
kind
of
see
those
consistencies
within
our
within
our
system.
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And
I
suppose
that's
certainly
something
we're
always
open
to.
If
there's
a
a
large
commuter
need
similar
to
the
one
between
kankakee
and
moments,
I
don't
think
it
would
be
the
same
buses.
That's
because
that
would
be
kind
of
difficult,
because
I
would
make
maybe
an
hour
and
40
minute
loop
or
something,
but
I
think
that's
a
discussion.
We're
willing
to
have
and
certainly
share,
you
know,
share
the
staff
information
with
them.
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Have
them
reach
out
to
us
we'd
love
to
talk
with
with
show
bus
and
see
if
that's
something
we
can
offer,
I
will
say
when
we
start
to
add
service,
we
add
costs
and
that's
where
we
start
to
tap
into
this.
What
do
we
do
about
match,
and
so
how
do
we
match
those
dollars
and
that
that
typically
in
rural
transit
is
that
is
the
limiting
factor.
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So
so
sort
of
like
using
the
moments
and
of
the
commuter
route
like
a
transfer
station
like
we
do
in
kankakee
I
mean
that's,
that's
certainly
a
discussion
we're
willing
to
have
and-
and
I
know
that
there
have
been
some
pilots
run
over
the
years
with
our
transit
system.
Where
we,
you
know,
we
hear
a
need,
we
try,
try
it
out
see
if
it
works.
I
mean
we're.
We're
certainly
willing
to
have
that
discussion
right.
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Great
good
discussion,
good
points,
good
ideas,
anything
else
on
that,
if
not,
we
can
move
to
the
next
bullet
point:
fy,
2023,
illinois,
downstate
operating
assistance
program
application.
Is
there
a
vote?
I'm
sorry
do
we
need
do.
We
need
a
motion
to
allow
me
to
sign
it.
Okay,
sorry
about
that.
Thanks
for.
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Mr
chairman,
I
would
say
these
are:
these
are
all
all
together
I
mean
this:
is
you
wouldn't
do
5311
without
receiving
the
downstate
funds,
and
we
can't
do
either
of
those
without
having
a
purchase,
a
service
agreement
for
a
for
a
provider,
at
least
as
our
current
system
set
up.
So
a
combination
of
the
three
I'll
field
questions
on
any
any
portion
of
it?
It's
just
it's
kind
of
all.
One
package.
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They
came
in
through
the
consolidated
vehicle
procurement
program
to
the
county.
Bus
10
currently
has
176
000
miles,
it's
a
light
duty
paratransit
vehicle
and
it
has
a
cracked
head.
We
got
costs
from
midwest
transit.
That's
that's
one!
That's
the
main
issue!
There's
there's
issues
and
a
couple
issues.
It's
about
sixty
one
hundred
dollars
to
fix.
Based
on
the
estimate,
the
current
vehicle
value
at
scrap
value
is
about
three
hundred
dollars
so
with
having
you
know,
new
vehicles
come
in
through
the
the
rebuild
illinois.
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It's
got
167
000
miles
again
at
2009,
so
both
of
these
vehicles
with
having
300
in
scrap
value
doesn't
seem
like
it
makes
sense
to
invest
in
new
vehicles
and
and
just
one
I
would
say,
peripheral
piece
of
information.
I
was
on
the
phone
yesterday
with
zoe
keller,
from
from
idot.
We
had
previously
heard
there
wouldn't
be
consolidated
vehicle
procurement.
It
was
kind
of
this
like
nebulous.
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We
don't
know
according
to
zoe,
as
of
yesterday,
they're
about
to
roll
it
out,
so
we
feel
a
little
more
comfortable,
not
fixing
the
vehicles.
Knowing
the
state
is
gonna
roll
out
a
new
conduit,
two
vehicles,
because
I
mean
this
is
a
good
cautionary
tale.
If
we
can't
get
vehicles,
we
wanna
make
sure
we're
keeping
our
rolling
stock,
but
the
new
cvp
is
going
to
come
out
through
idot,
so
we'll,
hopefully
be
able
to
use
our
rebuilt
dollars.
Maximize
though,
and
get
some
those
and
get
some
new
vehicles
to
replace
these.
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Wondering-
and
I
guess
sam
would
better
ask
this
question.
You
know
when
we're
disposing
these
vehicles,
given
the
nominal,
well,
the
amount
of
6100
to
put
them
back
into
operation.
Is
there
any
consideration
on
you,
as
part
of
if
you
can
use
these
vehicles
and
be
able
to
then
probably
find
someone
that
can
transport
individuals
to
like
moments?
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I
mean
and
the
other
the
other
piece
of
this
is
our
our
non-5311s
or
our
social
service
providers.
I
will
be
part
of
this
cbp
program,
so
that'll
be
organizations
like
kctc
thresholds,
the
townships
and
they're
eligible,
and
actually
we
have
through
vac.
Here
we
have
a
van
a
bus,
they
would
be
eligible
to
apply
for
a
new
vehicle,
and
when
we
make
consideration
for
disposal
of
vehicles
it
becomes
the
kind
of
good
money.
After
bad
conversation
I
can
sam
or
chairman
wheeler
I
can.
H
I
can
ask
to
see
what
what
idot's
recommendation
on
the
vehicles
is.
I
can
tell
you
typically
when
we
go
for
disposal
that
means
to
to
dispose
of
it's
not
to
try
and
use
again,
because
these
are
these.
These
are
aging
vehicles
and-
and
today
it's
the
cracked
head.
That
doesn't
mean
that
the
the
lift
equipment's
not
aging,
that
the
bearings
aren't
going
bad,
that
the
transmission
potentially
doesn't
have.
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H
You
know
kind
of
faithfully
this
entire
time
and
and
when
we're
happy,
but
it's
time
to
replace
them,
I
would
be
more
inclined
to
lean
towards
looking
for
a
new
vehicle
through
cvp
for
the
township
right
versus
trying
to
kind
of
limp
along
I'm,
not
I'm
not
going
to
you
know
get
into
their
business.
But
if
I'm
looking
at
that's
how
I'm
going
to
look
at
it.
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That's
a
good
look
just
looking
for
a
conversation
behind
so
that
way,
maybe
to
eliminate
the
I
mean
you
kind
of
fix
that
problem
you
get
from
pembroke
to
that
hourly,
so
the
people
get
to
work
and
kind
of
with
that
area
being
challenging
as
far
as
getting
transportation
and
more
farmers.
So
whatever
positive
conversations
that
you
often
have
perhaps
that'll
benefit,
they
can
benefit
the
residents
out
there
for
each
too.
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For
optimizing,
our
efficiencies
to
make
sure
you're
providing
the
best
service,
the
technology
can't
be
that
expensive
these
days
compared
to
everything
else,
whether
we
have
to
wait
three
years
to
get
it.
That's
another
question,
but
I
don't
know
if
the
committee
agrees:
it's
not
an
action
item,
but
I
don't
want
to
go
through
all
this.
If
people
say
we
don't
want
like
to
agree.
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F
Great
idea
can't
be
it's
not
on
the
agenda,
so
we'll
just
go
ahead
and
look
through
it.
Just
I
didn't
want
to
walk
into
the
wood
chipper
as
they
say
you
know
so
sure
we'll
go
we'll
start
figuring
out
what's
best
for
us
and
probably
bring
something
back
to
finance.
As
far
as
a
request
and
more
than
likely
I'd
say
99
chance,
it
could
be
arpa
money,
potentially
arpa,
proper
money,
not
the
lost
revenue
side,
so
no
local
property
tax
paying
citizen
would
have
to
pay
for
that.
E
I
mean
we
do
know
the
vehicle
disposal,
but
up
in
this
purchase
of
service
agreement,
will
we
not
because
it's
gonna
have
to
wind
up
in
finance?
I
guess
have
that
caveat
attached
to
it
or
that
concern
attached
to
it.
So,
therefore,
though,
it's
not
on
the
agenda
item
it
is,
it
can
be
an
addendum
to
the
purchase
of
the
service
agreements.
F
H
A
Okay,
all
right
we've
got
a
motion
second
to
adjourn
mr
kirkstra,
miss
peters.
Before
we
adjourn,
I
want
to
thank
the
staff
who
prepared
for
this
meeting.
Thank
you
for
all
the
work
that
goes
into
it,
and
also
thank
you
for
everyone
for
coming
today
and
setting
aside
time
for
this
important
work.
All
those
in
favor
of
the
motion
to
adjourn,
say:
aye
aye,
all
those
opposed.