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From YouTube: NAACP/Law Enforcement Meeting 08/19/2020
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NAACP/Law Enforcement Meeting 08/19/2020 12:00PM
A
D
B
Again,
I'd
like
to
welcome
everyone,
I
just
wanted
to
think
about
all
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
since
2014
and
particularly
within
the
last
three
to
four
months,
so
lieutenant
mason
can
you
or
chief
swinford.
You
want
to
read
the
minutes
and
we
can
just
accept
the
basic
topics
of
discussion
from
our
last
meeting,
which
was
on
july
23rd.
B
L
L
We
spoke
about
the
eight
that
can't
wait,
the
police
reforms
that
are
being
discussed
nationwide
and
where
we're
at
with
those
and
a
review
of
police
policies
and
procedures
as
it
pertains
to
use
of
force
and
the
public
protests
going
on.
We
discuss
the
status
of
the
community
response
team.
I'm
sure
we'll
discuss
that
further.
B
Thank
you.
Can
we
get
a
motion
to
a
second
to
accept
the
minutes
moved
by
vice
president
stephen
hunter?
Are
there
any
questions
additions
to
the
minutes,
seeing
them
all
in
favor?
Oppose
motion.
Carry
next
item
on
the
agenda.
Is
public
comment
so
other
than
do
we
have
any
individuals
representing
the
community.
B
Ferguson
missouri
2014
and
we've
been
having
these
meetings
to
ensure
that
the
safety,
the
bridge
building
of
our
respective
community
and
law
enforcement,
which
means
the
eight
can't
wait.
The
ten
shared
principles
that
all
of
the
municipalities
in
kankakee
county
have
signed
on
aboard
and
as
of
monday
of
this
past
week,
the
village
of
moments
adopted
the
ten
shared
principles.
So
we
don't
have
a
representative
today.
B
I
don't
see
the
chief
here,
but
we
wanna
applaud
mayor
steele
and
the
alderman
in
the
village
of
moments
on
the
on
the
acceptance
and
the
adoption
of
the
ten
share
principles.
So
again
that
that
is
a
show
of
progress
that
we're
doing
here
in
kankakee
county.
The
adoption,
the
implementation
of
the
ten
shared
principles
and
even
just
the
basic
conversation
of
the
eight
can't
wait.
So
that
is
why.
K
B
Our
meeting
is
is
to
address
and
again
is
to
to
build
those
relationships
and
with
the
current
climate
of
2020
is.
It
is
very
important
that
we
take
the
work
that
we
do
quite
very
seriously
with
even
with,
like
it's
just
said,
with
the
village
of
moments,
the
adoption
of
the
ten
shared
principles,
so
that
that's
a
good
thing.
B
So
at
this
time
we
want
to
go
to
lieutenant
mason
for
chief
swinford
and
alderman
emeritus
hunter
to
deal
with
item
sixth
there,
and
we
want
to
talk
about
our
training,
some
of
the
things
that's
coming
up
in
stevie,
even
if
you
want
to
along
with
chairman
wheeler.
You
guys
want
to
adopt
and
talk
about
the
resolution
at
this
time.
F
As
you
guys
may
recall,
throughout
the
country,
there's
been
various
initiatives
regarding
defunding
law
enforcement
throughout
the
country,
especially
the
initiative
which
transpired
up
in
minnesota
with
george
floyd.
Other
municipalities
throughout
the
country
have
made
overtures
to
do
such
thing.
F
I'd
like
to
say,
we
received
unanimous
consent.
There
was
a
motion
made
by
yours
truly
as
well
as
a
unanimous,
a
unanimous
second,
to
adopt
this
particular
resolution,
and
it
was
a
part
of
consideration
initially
at
the
executive
committee
then
brought
forward
to
the
full
county
board
and
which
was
acted
upon.
F
There
were
many
positive
comments
made
much
to
my
surprise
regarding
the
adoption
of
this
particular
document.
Additionally,
going
back
to
what
I
said
earlier,
the
hispanic
partnership
of
kaneki
county
held
a
meeting.
I
think
the
last
thursday
of
july
I'm
correct
and
many
members
of
the
at
the
kenke
library
the
fourth
floor.
I'm
the
vice
chairman
of
that
organization
are
featured,
presenter,
was
sheriff
downing.
G
But
it's
it's
something
that
I
don't
know
that
the
county
has
ever
done.
It
totally
flew
under
the
radar.
There's
been
no
reporting
on
it
at
all,
and
I
think
it's
while
the
county
board
doesn't
make
grand
political
statements
because
we're
about
usually
about
business
and
not
about
politics.
In
this
case.
G
G
This
was
like
a
framework
to
make
sure
that,
regardless
of
political
affiliation
or
your,
you
know
the
community,
you
come
from
ethnicity
whatever.
This
is
what
we
believe
in,
and
this
is
where
we
want
to
go,
and
whoever
here
is
to
partner
with
us
in
this
spirit,
we're
here
to
do
it
as
long
as
they're,
obviously
reputable
people,
we
don't
want
to
definitely
partner
with
anybody,
and
everybody
is
what
I
said
in
the
meeting.
G
So
we
definitely
want
to
be
careful
of
who
our
partners
are,
but
as
long
as
you're
moving
in
that
direction,
we're
here
to
help
in
any
way
that
we
possibly
can.
So
that
was
a
general
gist
of
it,
and
I,
when,
when
steve
asked
me
to
bring
and
talk
about
it,
it
was
to
to
let
this
group
know
that
we're
we're
ready
for
the
rubber
to
meet
the
road
on
the
county
level,
and
it
seems
like
you
guys,
are
doing
that
within
your
communities
as
well.
G
B
I
I
see
that
you
you're
talking
about
the
icon
of
mr
ben
cox,
the
adoption
and
the
of
the
10
shared
principle
to
improve
relationship
again
between
law
enforcement
and
the
community
they
served
as
of
february
2020.
So
again
I
don't
know
if
some
something
that
we
need
pr.
You
said
I
mean
they've
gone,
it's
gone,
underneath
the
radar.
B
It's
items
like
this,
that
our
community
failed
to
realize
the
progressive
things
that
we
try
to
do
as
as
an
organization
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
naacp
and
county
government
and-
and
I
think
sometimes
our
the
citizens
need
to
be
aware
of
the
things
that
we'll
be
doing.
If,
if
they
talk
about
the
negative
things,
then
also
we
need
to
talk
about
the
right
things
and
the
progressive
things
that
are
that
are
happening,
particularly
with
the
relationships
that
individuals
are
having
in
the
county
and
with
the
major
topic
of
police
reform.
B
I
still
maintain
that
of
the
102
counties
in
the
state
of
illinois.
I
I
don't
think
on
on
august
the
19th
of
wednesday
that
anywhere
throughout
the
state
that
you're
going
to
have
you
got
a
body
meeting
like
this,
with
state
police
and
other
municipalities
in
their
respective
county.
So
are
we
doing
the
right
thing?
I
would
say
yes:
are
we
going
to
always
agree?
B
No,
and
and
so
again,
maybe
we
we
need
to
you
know
with
the
local
radio
station,
the
local
media
daily
journal,
and
we
need
to
maybe
a
press
press
release,
press
conference
and
and
make
the
individuals
aware
now
this
is
being
recorded,
live,
so
it's
another
way
that
we
could
get
it
out
to
the
respective
community
by
going
to
the
county
website,
but
I
think,
and
according
to
county
board
hunter
member
stated
with.
If
you
look
at
item
one
through
nine
now,
therefore
be
resolved
as
the
revenues
we
are
outright
rejected.
B
The
policy
defunding
law
enforcement
to
commit
to
the
affirmative
action
policy
of
07..
Those
are
topics
and
terms
that
are
not
currently
particularly
item.
Two
that
people
don't
even
talk
about
anymore,
affirmative
action,
you
know
per
se,
you
know,
because
everything
is
has
been
about
police
reform
protests
and-
and
so
I
I
just
think
this
is
a
good
document
to
draw
that
parallel
between
the
organizations
who
who
are
thinking
that
united
you're
not
doing
the
right
thing.
B
A
So
they
do
go
back
and
watch
these
if
they're
not
watching
them
live,
they
do
watch
them
and
they
do
take
what
is
said
in
these
meetings,
so
they
are
aware
of
them.
So
to
their
credit
I
mean
they're,
like
everybody
else,
I
mean
they're.
They
have
limited
resources,
just
like
everybody
else,
so
they
do
utilize
things
like
this,
which
is
why
it's
good
that
this
is
broadcast
out
there,
so
they
are
able
to
see
it
and
pick
up
on
it.
F
Reiterate
you
know
if
it
bleeds
it
leads.
Maybe,
but
if
I
remember
correctly,
the
sheriff
made
comments
about
the
relationship
with
this
organization,
as
well
as
naacp,
probably
being
a
model
for
the
country,
and
I
think
that
speaks
to
what
you
had
said
chairman
pace
regarding
out
of
the
other
102
counties.
Are
they
doing
anything
similar
to
what
we're
doing
here?
F
G
G
You
can't
have
one
without
the
other,
and
so
we
tried
to
address
those
things
within
the
document
like
one
of
the
things
is,
is
if
I
lived
in
another
country-
and
it
was
not
where
I
wanted
to
be-
I
wouldn't
want
to
wait
20
years
to
come
here
either,
so
we're
forcing
people
into
making
a
choice,
that's
for
their
well-being
and
turning
them
into
air
quote
criminals,
if
you
will
by
a
poor
immigration
policy,
but
that
doesn't
mean
at
the
same
time.
You
should
know
everybody
that
comes
into
your
country.
G
Those
are
not
mutually
exclusive
ideas.
Well,
it
seems
like
it's.
We
have
polar
opposites
and
then,
when
the
president
changes,
everybody
flips
sides
on
the
issue
and
it's
just
playing
games
with
people's
lives.
That's
just
on
the
immigration
policy
and
then
another
eight
years
later
it
changes
back
and
then
the
other
side
shuts
it
down.
G
Actually
now
it's
not
just
a
two-party
system.
We
have
three
at
the
county
board.
So
it's
we
all
kind
of
put
all
that
aside
and
said.
This
is
what
our
heart
and
our
mind
says,
and
then
can
we
go
forward
with
this
and
I
think
it's
an
extension
of
what
you
guys
do
here
and
we
appreciate
the
leadership
because
I
don't
know
if
we
got
to
this
point
without
the
ground
work
that
this
group
has
done
over
the
past
plus
since.
G
E
F
I'm
not
sure,
but
I
tell
you
that
yeah
what
happened
was
that
I
think
we
had
somebody
to
affirm
that
jackie
haas
concurred
with
that
particular
statement.
So
there
was
discussion
regarding
all
the
contents
and
the
statements
in
here.
So
we
had
empirical
evidence
to
support
that
so
and
she's,
of
course,
the
mental
health,
specialist
or
professional
expert,
and
so
she
said
yeah
that
was
correct.
E
K
The
short
or
the
short
answer
to
that
would
be
yes,
because
they're
different
departments,
but
the
longer
the
longer
answer
is
that
both
of
those
categories
are
underfunded,
sure
with
without
a
doubt
right
and
there
and
there's
there's
not
enough
services.
I
think
everybody
in
this
room
would
agree.
K
D
I
K
H
Because,
as
you
said,
it's
a
self-medication
and
and
there's
many
diagnosis,
you
know,
such
as
in
mental
health
and
alcohol,
contribute
a
big
factor
in
it.
And
I
would
say
alcohol
is
a
part
of
mental
health,
a
great
part,
because
since
it's
been
defunded
in
mental
health,
you
know
most
most
people
do
what
they
medicate
themselves
with
drugs
and
alcohol.
G
G
The
the
self-medicating
is
the
root
causes
untreated
mental
health
on
a
lot
of
this
stuff,
and
so
that's
why
we
demanded
more
money
because
we're
not
just
50th
in
the
united
states,
we're
51st
dc
spends
more
money
than
we
do
as
a
state
on
mental
health.
It's
it's
appalling!
Now
that
was
just
a
couple
years
ago.
It
may
have
changed,
but
I
mean
that's
the
latest
data
that
I
had.
B
B
B
I
know
that
he
talked
to
other
municipalities
and
other
police
chiefs,
so
I
know
he's
not
here
today,
but
I
know
that's
an
ongoing,
an
attempt
to
have
individuals
to
again
rethink
and
there
take
a
position
on
the
citizen,
civilian
review
board,
and
so
hopefully,
in
our
next
meeting,
we'll
we'll
have
another
conversation
on
that.
However,
I
think
the
next
step
with
our
group
deals
with
our
training
committee
again
with
lieutenant
mason
marlo
jones
from
the
state's
attorney
office,
mr
hunter
and
chief
swinford.
B
L
We've
been
it's
taken
a
long
process.
We've
been
dealing
with
it
for
months
trying
to
get
this
list
of
participants
and
we've
whittled
away
at
it.
We've
heard
from
two-thirds
of
them.
I
think
at
this
point
it's
not
productive.
To
wait,
keep
waiting,
I'd,
say:
let's
go
forward
with
what
we
got
if
we
can
pick
up
people
along
the
way.
Let's
do
that,
but
I
think
at
this
point
we
need
to
set
up
a
committee
meeting
for
the
training.
L
We've
already
got
an
outline
bridget
bertrand
just
spoke
with
her
yesterday,
she's
ready
to
go
so
if
we
get
our
committee
together
and
finalize
the
training
syllabus,
if
you
will
and
get
in
contact
with
these
people
start
looking
at
a
date.
One
thing
we
need
to
discuss
is
you
know.
Obviously
we
planned
all
this
before
covid
is:
do
we
need
to
look
at
an
a
virtual
option,
an
online
option,
or
do
we
think
we
can
do
it
in
person?
L
F
So
when
you
think
in
terms
of
a
venue,
you
know
when
different
debates
transpire
and
presentations
are
made
at
kcc
at
that
auditorium
there.
That's
probably
you
know
big
enough
and
and
to
practice
social
distancing.
If
you,
if
you
just
reflect
at
that
location,
it
seems
like
it
may
be
appropriate
for
maybe
some
other
venue
but
yeah.
I
think
you're
correct.
L
Yeah,
I
think
one
of
them
seats,
100
people,
one
of
them
sees
200
people
we're
going
to
have
20.,
so
I
think
we
could
spread
them
out
pretty
good.
You
know
if
we're
going
to,
we
may
end
up
doing
two
of
them
or
three
of
them,
so
it'll
divide
up
even
more
so
I
spoke
with
her
briefly
about
it.
We
can
always
use
this
room
as
well.
L
B
B
C
B
That's
three
matter
of
fact:
I
just
talked
to
her
last
thursday,
so
there's
a
number
of
villain
jordans,
a
number
of
people
are
looking
for
our
next
step.
To
do
that,
so
I
would
say
after
the
meeting
we
could
set
up
that
committee
meeting
and
get
mrs
bertrand
in,
and
we
just
move
forward
to
what
we
have
yeah.
L
G
Sharon,
the
is
it
appropriate
to
record
if
it's
in
here
to
record
this
to
make
it
available
to
other
people,
the
training
or,
I
don't
know
the
complete
content.
But
you
you
tell
me,
I
mean
okay,
you
see
where
I'm
going,
though
I
might.
You
might
make
it
available
to
other
people
that
if
they
can't
be
here,
they
want
to
take
it
back
to
wherever
they're
they're
from
they
could
show
the
training
to
other
people.
I
don't
know
just
thought.
D
We're
gonna
ask
so
there
you
go.
You
saved
me
a
little
breath
there.
The
other
thing
I
was
gonna
say
is
what
chief
swinford
said
is
we've
all
been
in
these
zoom
conferences
and
everything
else?
Sometimes
when
you,
if
we
could
use
the
room
like
sheriff
down,
he
said
here
then
those
that
can't
make
it
instead
of
putting
it
off.
Like
chief
swinfor
said
I
agree,
we've
been
putting
it
off
long
enough.
Let's
get
this
going
in
case.
We
do
have
an
issue
then
we'll
have
this
in
place.
D
We
can
offer
it
where
we've
got
three
screens.
We
can
use
this
room
too.
So
I
don't
know
if
we've
thought
about
I've
got
a
free,
zoom
account
I
use
for
teaching
and
stuff.
That's
like
a
45
minute
limit.
That's
just
an
example,
but
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
have
something
here
sheriff
or
something
that
we
look
in
through
through
the
through
this
board
or
whatever,
but
I'm
just
throwing
it
out.
There
be
nice
to
have
both
avenues
so
that
we
can
have
people
there
still
present,
but
just
not
in
person
like
chief
swinford.
B
County
board,
chairman
again,
very
good
job
with
the
resolution
and
county
board
member
hunter
mentioned
a
model
and
the
sheriff-
and
I
had
a
conversation
so
sheriff
just
want
to
talk
about
your
thoughts
on
how
we
could
try
to
get
the
illinois.
I
guess
sheriff
association,
along
with
the
police
association,
to
take
a
look
at
some
of
the
things
that
we've
been
doing
here
since
2014.
A
But
it
is
certainly
something
that
that
needs
to
happen
in
the
state
of
illinois
and-
and
I
think
this
is
a
great
example
for
people
to
see
it
so
yeah.
We
will
do
that.
Our
actually
our
conference
that
was
scheduled
in
september
just
got
cancelled
due
to
covid,
but
I
do
communicate
with
the
director
of
the
sheriff's
association
at
least
once
or
twice
a
week.
B
B
L
Most
of
our
departments
are
on
lexapol
city
cities,
so
we
all
have
bought
the
same
exact
policy
and
lexapol
reviews
them
regularly.
I
think
they
just
sent
out
a
big
update
yesterday,
the
day
before
on
use
of
force,
which
is
the
advantage
of
having
lexapol,
because
they
have
a
staff
of
attorneys
and
people.
Looking
at
these
things,
as
current
events
are
unfolding
and
updating
them
very
quickly
much
quickly
than
we
could
with
you
know,
we
don't
have
staffs
of
attorney
to
look
at
that
kind
of
thing.
So
I
think
the
advantage
is
number
one.
L
All
of
our
policies
are
very
similar,
so
what
we
do
in
mantino
is
very
similar.
What
bradley,
vermin
or
kanke
city
is
doing,
because
we
all
have
the
same
policy.
Basically,
we
can
modify
them
for
our
own
department,
but
99
of
them
are
going
to
be
identical,
so
I
think
we're
in
pretty
good
shape.
As
far
as
our
policies
go.
D
Lieutenant
say
the
same
thing
about
lex
pole
and
then,
in
addition
to
that,
they
have
this
thing
called
the
dtb
which
stands
for
daily
training
bolton,
so
it
pushes
out
to
all
our
officers.
So
now
it
not
only
is
an
administrative
level
pushed
out
to
the
officers
to
acknowledge
these
different
changes,
whatever
they
are.
So
if
it's
a
best
practice
change,
if
it's
a
law
change,
if,
like
chief
said,
if
it's
some
kind
of
a
new
state
mandated
reform
movement,
then
it
automatically
gets
pushed
alexa
pull
through
through.
D
B
D
I
the
eyelet
too,
which
is
the
illinois
accreditation
part
of
it
the
main
reason
most
people
don't
have
it,
and
just
because
you
don't
have
it,
and
at
least
in
my
experience
doesn't
mean
you
don't
still
adhere
to
those
principles.
It's
because
it
is
a
long
artist
process
takes
time,
takes
manpower
takes
people
to
do
it,
but
we
set
up
those
policies
and
procedures
we're
just
talking
about
so
that
they
basically
mirror
that
whole
kalia
standards.
D
That's
what
it's
about
is
maintain
that
standard
and
make
sure
everybody's
on
the
same
page
and
constant
review
of
it.
So
another
thing
that
I
just
wanted
to
add
because
of
the
recording
just
for
the
group
is
that
there
is
an
accountability
to
all
our
people
too.
On
this,
so
it's
not
just
here's,
here's
our
new
policies
and
here's
our
daily
training
bulletins
or,
however,
each
department
does
it,
but
they
have
to
sign
off
on
it
one
way
or
another,
whether
they're
acknowledging
they
read
it.
They
actually
go
online
and
take
these
daily.
D
I
can
even
do
them
on
their
phones
if
they
want
to,
but
most
of
them
do
them
in
their
squad.
Cars
or
in
a
laptop
in
the
in
the
department
or
whatever,
and
it
shows
who's
ever
done
whatever
for
you
know,
reviewed
it
and
basically
agreed
that
they
acknowledge
it
or
you
can't
move
forward
so
there's
an
accountability
factor
which
I
need
to
be
mentioned
anyway.
Thank
you.
A
L
Yesterday,
the
illinois
chiefs
association
had
a
meeting,
and
I
listened
to
it
on
zoom
and
they
addressed
some
of
these
things.
One
of
them
was
accreditation
and
clea
is
an
excellent
certification,
but
it's
labor
intensive.
It's
a
lot
of
work
and
a
lot
of
work
to
maintain
it's
very
expensive.
They
are
working
with
the
illinois
sheriff's
association
association
to
come
up
with
an
illinois
certification
that
maybe
is
a
little
more
doable
for
smaller
agencies,
so
that
might
be
something
we
can
look
for
in
the
future.
J
The
police
department
has
been
dual
credited
since
I
think
it's
2009.
we're
on
our
fourth
accreditation,
we're
both
I
leap
and
kalia
accredited.
I
was
a
cool
accreditation
manager
for
four
years
and
since
it
passed
on
to
sergeant
ivy,
but
I'm
still
involved
in
it,
like
chief
swinford
and
lieutenant
mason
said,
I
can
tell
you
from
firsthand
experience.
It
is
labor
intensive
and
it's
very
expensive.
However
it
it
does
have
a
lot
of.
J
We
meet
a
lot
of
the
eight
can't
wait
based
on
clear
accreditation,
because
it
requires
us
to
do
a
lot
of
data
collection
and
have
a
lot
of
fail
safes
throughout
our
policy
and
throughout
our
procedures,
to
make
sure
that
we
are
meeting
all
those
demands.
Prior
to
this,
eight
eight
can't
wait
came
out,
so
I
just
wanted
to
speak
to
that
and
say
that
it
is
a
value
process
and
I
leap
is
a
lot
cheaper
than
than
kalia
and
it
is
a
state
accreditation
and
it's
very
affordable
and
easy
to
do.
F
Let
me
ask
you
a
question
too:
I
know
that
monday,
the
city
of
kankakee
incorporated
their
body
cams
into
the
bond
issue.
I
think,
and
I
was
wondering
if
anybody
knows
sheriff-
or
anybody
else
has
any
idea
regarding
department
of
justice
doj
regarding
funding
for
body
cams
or
any
kind
of
state
stuff
initiative
at
all.
Anybody
know
about
any
of
that
stuff.
D
Now,
because
what's
going
to
happen
is
if
it
ends
up
being
a
national
mandate,
it's
going
to
be
crazy,
expensive
for
department,
especially
smaller
size
or
a
large
agency.
Like
state
police,
I
mean
the
it's
not
so
the
grants
that
are
out
there
are
for
the
equipment
and
the
ones
I've
seen
are
usually
just
there's
federal
grants
and
local
grants,
but
they're
usually
just
time
specific.
D
So
we
missed
the
window
from
the
last
one,
but
we're
already
on
board
to
try
to
get
the
next
one,
but
that
does
not
cover
the
most
important
aspect
of
it.
Citizens
don't
understand
and
that's
the
cloud
storage
of
it
because
you
have
to
have
redaction
software,
so
you
obviously
can't
have
people
innocent
people's
faces
out
there.
So
I
redacted
video
personally
myself
for
foias
and
stuff
it.
It
took
me
two
hours
to
do
a
six
minute
fight
at
the
video
before
to
manually
blur
out
people's
word.
D
If
it's
built
into
the
software
like
axon
has,
which
is
you
know,
the
premier
leader
in
the
whole
thing
very
expensive,
like
for
our
department,
I
think
it
was
like.
I
can't.
I
can't
quote
it
exactly,
but
I
know
if
you
do
like
a
five-year
payment
plan
to
get
brand
new
body
cameras
brand,
new
tasers
and
works
well
with
others.
They
play
nice
together
and
since
it
was
like
60,
some
thousand
because
it's
based
on
officer
size.
D
So
it's
extremely
expensive
and
none
of,
like
I
said
the
important
part,
is
none
of
the
grants
cover
the
important
part,
which
is
the
cloud
storage.
So
it's
nice,
you
get
something
off
the
equipment,
whether
it's
half
off
or
eighty
percent,
but
then
you
still
have
to
worry
about
how
you're
paying
it
and
how
you're,
maintaining
it
and
who's
going
to
upload
them
and
download
them,
and
you
know
foias
and
everything
else.
So
that's
where
the
money's
at
and
right
now
that
hasn't
been
addressed.
D
B
H
You
mentioned
about
chief,
you
mentioned
about
the
illinois
certification
for
police
departments.
My
question
to
you
will
be
under
the
hospice
of
the
illinois
local
law
enforcement
training
board.
If
so
shouldn't
there
be
some
kind
of
legislation
legislation
passed
and
to
have
a
mandated
state
similar
program,
which
is
clear.
L
I
think
that's
what
they're
working
with
as
a
legislature,
I
don't
think
they'll
mandate
it
just
because
there's
so
many
little
very
small
departments.
Out
of
such
little
resources,
you
know,
say
a
saint
anne
might
have
a
little
trouble
unless
it's
free
and
they're
providing
services
which
that's
not
going
to
be
the
case.
It's
going
to
be
hard
for
some
departments
to
do
it,
so
I
doubt
they'll
mandate
it
I
don't
know
for
sure,
but
they
are
working
with
the
legislature
to
create
it.
H
I
mean
there's
no
transparency,
you
know,
because
everybody's
all
scattered
all
over
the
place
doing
you
know
because
the
use
of
force
continuum
there's
a
lot
of
there's
so
much.
You
know
the
parasympathetic
sympathetic,
nervous
system,
you
know
the
body,
you
know
the
body
goes
to
sort
of
reactions.
You
know
physiological
changes
like
I
said
before
tunnel
vision,
so
I
strongly
believe
we
need
one
standard.
H
L
H
You
understand
you
know,
because
you
know
the
use
of
force
continuum
talks
about
officer
presence,
you
know
soft
hand,
hard
hand,
impact
weapon,
deadly
force
and
you
know,
and
the
last
but
not
least,
deadly
force
they're,
not
following
those
use
of
force.
Continuum
they're,
just
jumping
from
one
one
level
to
the
other
without
using
discretion.
I
There's
a
couple
of
things
and
one
on
the
body
cameras
so
like
when
we
were
looking
for
our
funding
for
that.
So
if
you
get
an
idea,
it's
like
300
000,
for
I
think
three
or
five
years
program.
I
forgot
exactly
for
a
five-year
program,
but
in
the
state
grant
that
we
had
applied
for
was
gonna
come
up
with
around
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
it.
So
it's
still
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
is
what
we
we.
I
If
we
get
reimbursed
so
we'll
apply
again
when
it
comes
then,
but
it's
not
guaranteed,
you
got
to
buy
it
and
then
you
gotta
apply
for
the
grant,
and
hopefully
you
get
the
money
back.
So
that's
not
a
slam
dunk
anything,
but
there
is
now
some
groups
out
there
that
are
are
talking
against
having
the
body
cams,
and
that
and
and
I'm
mentioned
I'll
say
you
know,
we're
we're
here-
talking
black
lives
matter.
There
was
a
so
from
what
I
heard.
I
There's
some
talk
in
that
organization
that
not
to
have
body
cams,
because
they're
not
as
they'd
rather
spend
the
money
on
other
things.
It's
part
of
the.
However,
you
want
to
say
defunding
or
whatever,
a
police
and
not
having
money.
Go
towards
that.
I
I
believe
in
body
cams.
I
think
it's
the
perfect
accountability,
the
most
that
that
you
can
have
out
there
and
it
solves
a
lot
of
problems.
I
Because
it's
a
lot
of
times
it's
unsustained,
because
you
can't
tell
if
it's
one
way
or
the
other-
and
I
don't
know
what's
better
than
having
a
camera
there,
trying
to
just
to
show
how
the
situation
they're
not
perfect,
but
I
think
they're
a
good
step
in
in
that
direction
and
the
other
thing
with
the
use
of
force
continuum.
It
might
be
just
semantics
that
we're
we're
talking
about
there,
but
there
is
the
us.
I
Supreme
court
has
already
come
up
with
a
standard
set
for
the
united
states
and
that's
what's
objectively
reasonable
and
that's
the
standard
that
it
is
so
if
you
jump
from
command
presence
to
deadly
force
without
being
objectively
reasonable,
you're
that
would
be.
You
know.
The
supreme
court
has
already
spoken
on
that
and
that's
what
a
lot
of
our
our
policies
are
all
based
on
based
on
the
supreme
court
rulings
and
that's
what
the
alexa
pull
and
that's
what
the
what
they,
what
their
our
our
standards
are
based
on
everyone's
on.
H
H
I
I
Of
I
don't
think,
there's
one
thinking
of
it.
It's
just
that
there's
part
of
the
allocation
of
funds.
There
there's
talk
in
reference
to
using
the
funds
in
other
places
because
it
is
expensive,
but
I
don't
think
that
gets
to
the
heart
of
our
pro
well,
I
guess
it
gets
to
the
heart,
but
it
the
actual
confrontation
with
police
and
susan
and
making
better
accountability
and
better
relations.
It
doesn't
really
address
that
if
you
take
the
money
away
from
the
cameras.
B
C
B
C
C
I
C
B
Any
comments
before
we
close
anything
else
next
meeting
wednesday,
the
21st
everyone
want
to
check
that'll
be
october,
and
that
will
give
the
training
committee,
starting
today
till
october,
that
hopefully,
between
now
and
our
next
meeting,
we
will
have
our
first
training
session
is
that
is
that
good,
chief
swinford?
Do
you
think
we
could
yeah
lieutenant
mason
connor?
You
think
we
could?
We
could
pull
that
off
between
today
and
the
21st
of
october.