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A
Economic
development
or
the
house
and
senate
interim
work
economic
development,
workforce
investment
committee
meeting
to
order.
I
want
to
begin
by
thanking
everyone
for
their
hard
work.
During
the
interim,
we
had
a
what
I
consider
to
be
a
fairly
ambitious
interim
undertaking
a
number
of
important
things,
and
I
do
want
to
thank
folks.
A
I
want
to
recognize
our
staff
here
that
put
in
a
lot
of
hours,
sasha,
allen,
kirk
smith,
audrey
ernst
berger
in
addition
to
andrew
manno
and
drew
baldwin
who
were
with
us
for
part
of
the
interim
andrew,
has
departed
this
committee
and
gone
on
to
another
department
in
lrc,
and
we
wish
him
well
there
and
he
has
been
succeeded
by
janine,
coy
and
we're
looking
forward
to
having
her
work
with
us
on
this
committee.
A
B
We
are
on
the
top
three
locations
to
visit
with
louisville
tourism,
we're
the
top
three
that
they,
when
they
go
out
and
sell
to
to
visitors
and
and
tours
so
we
get
calls
all
the
time
and
tour
buses
and
even
again
we're
really
small
compared
to
what
will
be.
Second
thing
is,
I
want
to
mention.
We
had
a
feasibility
study
done
years
ago
and
what
they
determined
is.
B
If,
if
someone
someone
visits
a
city
for
a
reason,
so
a
conference
or
a
meeting
or
whatever,
if
there's
a
botanical
garden,
they
stay
a
day
and
a
half
longer
so
think
of
the
hotel
rooms,
the
restaurants
and
all
the
other
things
all
the
other
money
that
they're
spending,
because
there's
a
botanical
garden
in
that
city.
Absolutely.
Thank
you.
B
I
just
want
to
say
I
love
this.
Thank
you
for
your
presentation.
I'm
curious.
This
is
more
of
an
educational
question.
Are
you
guys
going
to
do
any
classes
on
the
effects
that
the
ground,
the
being
on
a
landfill,
talk
to
kids,
about
reclaiming
it
and
what?
What's
in
there,
what
you
find
I'm
just
curious
from
a
science
perspective.
If
that
would
draw
some
students
in
that
would
definitely
draw
students.
B
We
haven't
gotten
there,
yet
we
are
getting
ready
to
do
an
educational
display
in
our
new
building
of
things
we
found
in
the
in
the
landfill.
So
remembering
that
was
a
neighborhood
and
then,
when
it
was
destroyed,
everything
was
just
kind
of
all
the
construction
debris,
but
we
do
have
we've
found
shoes
and
baby
dolls
and
army
men
and
plates
and
fork.
I
mean
it's
just
kind
of
kind
of
unusual,
but
we
will
display
that
we've
talked
about
doing
some
some
science.
B
You
know
science
classes
about
reclaiming,
also
the
soils
you
know:
how
do
you?
How
do
you
plant
in
soils
like
that
and
how
the
soils
have
to
be
amended?
So,
yes,
there's
a
whole
another
program.
We
haven't
done
that
yet
because
we're
starting
at
the
lower
level
lower
grades
other
than
volunteers
and
we'll
we'll
build
to
that,
but
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
adults
and
a
lot
of
engineers
that
would
be
really
interested
in
learning
that
too
so
yeah.
It's
it's
definitely
on
the
agenda.
A
Well,
casey?
I
want
to
appreciate
you
coming
today
and
sharing
the
information.
As
I
said,
I
believe
organizations
and
entities
such
as
yourself
tie
in
closely
with
economic
development,
because
they
we
bring
people
here.
As
you
said,
people
stay,
they
spend
money,
that's
what
we
we
want
folks
to
do.
A
All
right
maintaining
the
theme
hank
phillips.
If
you'd
like
to
come
forward,
we
may
have.
We
have
at
least
one
member
that
was
on
the
budget
subcommittee
for
tourism.
That
heard
a
presentation
from
hank.
Earlier
this
week.
I
actually
had
invited
him
to
appear
before
this
committee
a
while
back
before.
I
knew
that
he
would
be
be
presenting
before
the
budget
subcommittee.
A
One
of
the
things
that
you
will
be
hearing
today
is
a
request
from
the
kentucky
travel
industry
association
for
federal,
arpa
money
that
has
been
made
available
to
kentucky,
and
he
is
going
to
outline
today
some
of
the
the
travel
industry's
goals
and
what
the
utilization
of
those
funds
would
be
for.
These
are
monies
that
are
have
been
sent
to
the
state
we
we
have
to
use
those.
A
I
have
long
advocated
and
my
nine
years
in
the
general
assembly
that
we
don't
make
enough
investment
in
tourism.
I
said
the
other
week
that
we
you
it's
required,
sometimes
to
spend
money
to
make
money.
A
Other
states
around
this
nation
that
border
us
and
are
in
close
proximity
to
us,
spend
huge
amounts
of
money
on
tourism
and
they
reap
the
benefits
from
that
and
kentucky
has
not
been
in
that
category
and
and
and
tourism
is
something
that
this
committee
has
addressed
before
a
couple
of
years
ago
we
had
the
folks
from
the
lake
cumberland
area
come
here.
One
of
the
things
I
like
to
do
is
highlight
the
gems
and
the
the
positive
things
that
we
have
in
this
state.
A
D
Thank
you
very
much.
I'm
hank
phillips
president
and
ceo
of
the
kentucky
travel
industry
association
and
I
got
to
say
the
the
the
the
lead
up
to
this
presentation
of
from
the
louisville
botanical
gardens.
That
was
awesome
presentation.
It's
an
awesome
attraction
and,
mr
chairman,
your
comment
and
others
as
well
about
the
connection
between
economic
development
and
tourism.
That
is
a
point
we
we
always
make.
It's
not
one
and
the
other
tourism
is
economic
development
and
it's
one
of
the
very
best
forms
of
it.
D
So
we're
so
appreciative
of
your
understanding
of
that
and
and
that
of
the
committee
as
well.
You
would
ask
that
we
talk
also
about
labor
shortage,
that
the
industry
is
encountering
and
I
will
cover
that
and
then
move
on
to
the
the
plan
that
you
referenced
and
even
one
other
subject,
that
that
will
be
of
interest
to
you
with
the
with
the
labor
shortage.
D
We
we
have
not
been
spared,
as
you
would
expect
and,
as
you
probably
already
know
in
talking
with
our
members
prior
to
last
week
and
then
especially
last
week
during
our
kentucky
tourism
annual
conference,
the
consensus
is
that
the
severity
of
the
labor
shortage
is
the
only
thing
worse
than
that
that
we're
dealing
with
right
now
is
the
overall
impact
that
the
pandemic
has
had
on
our
industry,
and
we
know
that
we're
not
alone
with
the
labor
shortage.
D
D
So
what
I
want
to
share
some
thoughts
with
you
about
that
the
consensus
in
our
end,
there
are
several
points
of
consensus
in
our
industry
about
the
labor
shortage
and
again
I
would
just
want
to
stress
that,
apart
from
the
pandemic
itself,
the
economic
crisis,
overall
that
it
brought
on
the
next
most
severe
thing
we're
dealing
with
is,
is
exactly
that
the
labor
shortage-
it's
not
new.
D
D
D
So
the
the
the
businesses
in
our
industry
are
doing
what
they
can
in
terms
of
enhancing
wages
and
trying
to
it's
an
arms
race
out
there
right
now.
As
far
as
employers,
increasing
wages,
wages
and
they've
been
trying
to
keep
up
with
that.
D
One
of
the
consensus
points-
and
it
wasn't
necessarily
expected,
is
that
since
the
unemployment
benefits
the
enhanced
or
extended
expanded
benefits
went
away,
there
has
not,
unfortunately,
not
been
a
discernible
increase
in
the
availability
of
workers.
That's
that's
a
part
of
the
multifaceted
cause.
D
This
is
a
statewide
problem.
We
also
know-
and
you
all
know,
that
it's
a
national
problem
as
well
and
as
I've
mentioned
as
there's
multifaceted
reasons
for
it
not
the
least
of
which,
and
I'm
going
to
borrow
from
the
kentucky
chambers
playbook.
They
spoke
at
our
conference
and
they've
done
excellent
work,
as
I
think
you
all
know,
in
delving
into
the
labor
shortage
in
a
whole
workforce
area.
D
Child
care
is
particularly
a
subject
that
gets
discussed
because
child
care
issues
proportionately
disproportionately
impact
women
and
in
our
industry,
we're
very
proud
that
we
have
a
large
proportion
of
our
workforce
that
is
made
up
of
women
at
every
level
of
our
industry
at
the
entry
level
up
to
the
senior
executive
level,
and
so
any
issue
that
particularly
affects
women
then
particularly
affects
our
industry
and
child
care
is
one
of
those,
as
relates
to
the
labor
shortage.
There's
continuing
covet
concerns
as
an
industry
that
that
faces
the
public
interacts
with
the
public.
D
Every
day
we've
we've
observed
conditioning
that
folks
also
have
gone
through
by
being
at
home.
During
the
pandemic,
they've
adapted
they've
figured
out
ways
to
re
readjust
their
households
and
and
the
mechanics
of
their
households
to
where,
in
some
cases,
work
is
not
the
necessity
that
it
was
for
members
of
the
household
and
related
to.
That
is
something
else,
we've
noticed,
which
is
just
kind
of
a
reprioritization
that
some
folks
have
gone
through
with
their
lifestyles.
D
I'll
give
you
a
quick
example
at
our
conference
last
week
with
the
av
company
that
we
had
with
us.
I
was
talking
to
the
manager
of
the
on-site
manager
of
that
and
he
was
telling
me
that
yeah
and
they
are
very
affected
by
the
labor
shortage
as
well.
He
said
you
know
people
in
these
jobs,
the
kind
of
jobs
that
we
do
they
do.
D
They
used
to
kill
themselves
figuratively,
kill
themselves.
You
know
early
hours,
late
hours,
event
after
event,
day
after
day,
and
he
said
people
have
decided
that
they
some
folks
that
they
don't
want
to
put
themselves
back
through
that
grind
again,
and
so
they
they
they
have
looked
for
and
found
other
opportunities.
So
there's
this
reprioritization
of
of
of
life
and
lifestyles
that
that
enters
into
this
picture.
D
So
where
do
we
go
from
here?
A
lot
of
what
I've
talked
about?
Are
structural
issues
like
child
care
and
transportation
and
and
the
like,
and
we
know
that
you
all
wrestle
with
those
every
day
and
god
love
you
for
it,
and
I
know
it's
tough
to
address
those
kind
of
public
policy
issues.
We
don't
just
look
to
you
for
solutions,
though
we
look
to
ourselves.
D
D
I
I'm,
if
you
ask
10
executives
in
the
tourism
industry,
how
they
got
to
where
they
are,
they
would
say
they
began
at
the
bottom
rung
and
worked
their
way
up.
They
started
young
at
the
bottom.
Rung
fell
in
love
with
the
job,
the
industry
and
work
their
way
up.
We
need
to
market
that
more
than
we
do
we
need
to.
D
D
We
also
need
to
be
aware
that
that
this
it's
not
just
the
pandemic,
it's
not
just
labor
shortage
in
terms
of
filling
positions.
We
need
to
be
mindful
of
the
retention
of
employees,
because
that's
an
issue
as
well
of
retaining
those
overworked
employees
helping
them
work
through
those
days
work
through
the
issues
that
stand
in
their
way
we
need
to.
D
D
That's
a
challenge
for
that
employee
who
is
dealing
with
that
customer
and
another
aspect
of
retention.
Is
that
there's
opportunities
out
there,
everyone's
looking
for
employees,
and
so
it's
easy
to
move
from
one
place
to
another,
so
that's
kind
of
a
summation
of
what
we're
dealing
with
in
the
in
terms
of
workforce.
D
D
Now
there
are
two
specific
areas
I
want
to
mention
to
you,
where
at
legislative
action
will
not
only
help
us
work
through
the
labor
shortage,
but
in
the
larger
picture
of
the
recovery
of
this
industry,
which
is
still
far
down
the
path
full
recovery
is
not
upon
us
and
so
a
couple
of
proposals
to
help
us
get
there
and
to
come
out
the
other
side,
more
competitive
and
stronger
as
an
industry
than
we've
ever
been
before.
That
is
an
opportunity.
D
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
speak
to
what
is
the
lesser
of
these
two
initiatives,
although
it's
very
important,
let
me
start
with
a
kind
of
a
blueprint,
whether
it's
recovery
and
more
competitive
or
whether
it's
addressing
labor
shortage
it.
It
starts
and
ends
with
revenue
for
our
businesses
and
how
do
they
get
revenue,
it's
from
customers,
guests,
visitors
and
how
in
increasing
numbers
of
those,
and
how
does
that
happen?
D
It's
through
tourism,
marketing
that
it's
through
you,
you
heard
reference
to
louisville
tourism,
that's
the
tourist
commission,
this
convention
and
visitors
bureau
in
louisville.
That
helps
be
sure
that
visitors
and
people
who
are
thinking
about
visiting,
know
about
the
botanical
gardens
and
all
else
there
is
to
do
in
louisville,
so
that
tourism
marketing
is
essential
and
in
order
for
it
to
be
effective,
that
needs
to
be
funded
sufficiently
in
order
to
be
effective
and
in
in
order
for
those
businesses
ultimately
to
gain
that
revenue
that
they
need
so
two
things.
D
D
They
many
of
them
don't
even
understand
they
owe
these
taxes.
Some
of
them
don't
view
themselves
as
being
lodging
when
they
are
every
bit
a
lodging
or
accommodation
source,
as
is
that
traditional
hotel
down
the
street
now
to
their
credit,
airbnb
has
entered
into
some
agreements
with
larger
cities
to
pay
that
and
other
local
taxes.
Airbnb
is
also
a
few
years
ago
entered
into
an
agreement
with
the
department
of
revenue
to
pay
the
statewide
lodging
tax.
That
was,
that
is
the
source
of
marketing
funds
for
the
department
of
tourism.
D
However,
across
the
rest
of
the
state,
these
tourist
commissions
that
depend
on
these
funds
are
not
receiving
them
from
the
short-term
rental
folks,
so
we
will
be
bringing
forward
legislation
that
will
address
that
that
will
plug
that
increasingly
large
leak
in
the
tourism
marketing
funding
bucket.
Basically,
it
will
be
that
airbnb
and
all
the
others
will
pay
on
behalf
of
their
local
operators,
the
local
transient
tax.
Those
funds
will
come
into
as
as
we
envision
it
at
at
the
moment.
D
D
So
that's
one
way
to
help
ultimately
drive
more
revenue
into
our
businesses
and
help
them
deal
with
recovery
advancement,
as
well
as
with
the
labor
shortage,
the
other
one
is
and-
and
you
have
our
our
handout-
and
this
is
this-
is
the
big
one.
This
is
a
game
changer
for
this
industry.
D
It's
our
tourism
recovery
and
investment
plan.
Chairman
indicated,
75
million
dollars
we
are
requesting
from
the
american
rescue
plan
act
funds
that
act
specifically
cites
tourism
industry
as
an
impacted
industry.
That
is
that
these
funds
exist
for
as
an
eligible
recipient
of
these
funds.
We
are
requesting
monies
to
enhance
the
state's
marketing
of
kentucky.
D
We
are
requesting
funds
as
well
as
you
can
see
in
that
handout
funds
to
go
to
on
an
allocation
formula
basis
to
the
tourist
commissions
to
supplement
their
work
locally,
marketing,
their
communities,
for
example,
local
tourism
to
market
botanical,
gardens
and
all
the
other
things
that
that
are
in
louisville
and
and
and
then
throughout
the
state,
the
tourist
commissions
and
then.
Thirdly,
the
money
is
needed
to
revitalize
the
meetings
and
conferences
and
conventions
sector
of
this
industry
in
a
decimated
industry
that
is
struggling
to
gain
traction.
D
D
We
are
serious,
we
we
know.
This
is
a
lot
of
money
and
accountability
is
a
predominant
consideration
in
our
request
for
those
funds
and-
and
that
includes
the
methods
of
allocations
and
the
uses
of
the
funds.
We've
tried
to
be
very
intentional
about
those
I'm
going
to
leave
it
at
this
to
say
that
this
is
an
awesome
industry
in
its
own
right,
but
in
the
benefits
of
tax
revenue
and
the
benefits
of
jobs
in
the
benefits
of
economic
activity
activity,
all
of
which
accrue
to
the
people
of
kentucky
to
the
families
of
kentucky.
D
We
you
us
working
together,
have
an
opportunity
to
make
kentucky
what
it
always
has
been
capable
of
being,
which
is
an
absolutely
front
of
mind.
Premier
destination.
We
need
to
get
up
off
the
mat.
We
need
to
become
stronger,
more
productive
and
our
tourism
recovery
and
investment
plan
will
help
to
get
us
there,
and
we
request
your
support
of
that.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
happy
to
take
questions.
We.
A
Do
have
some
questions
all
right.
I
want
to
lead
off
with
a
with
a
question
on
the
airbnb
legislation
that
you
were
talking
about.
It's
my
understanding
that
you
have
worked
with
the
the
the
overriding
organization
for
airbnbs.
D
D
They
got
in
touch
with
me
to
because
we've
worked
with
them
on
and
off
over
the
years
to
try
to
resolve
this,
and
they
are
who
contacted
me
to
tell
us
about
the
tennessee
legislation
which
they
supported
in
tennessee
and
said
when
you
all
are
ready
to
roll
in
kentucky
with
this,
we
will
support
you
on
that
it
works
for
them.
They
haven't
tried
to
avoid
this
tax.
It's
been
a
practical
issue
of
how
to
get
it
into
the
local
hands,
and
so
yes,
sir,
they
are
supportive
of
this.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
for
being
here
today.
We
don't
have
your
handout
about
your
appropriation
request,
but
as
soon
as
we
adjourn
I'll,
go
upstairs
and
and
download
that
and
read
every
single
word,
I
can
promise
that
for
that
75
million,
how
do
you
anticipate
distribution
based
on
population
amenities
in
those
areas?
D
They
definitely
will
not
be
there's
those
three
components,
so
the
first
one
is
funding
to
the
department
of
tourism,
so
that
would
just
be
a
straight-line
appropriation
to
the
department
for
their
marketing
of
kentucky.
The
second
part
35
million
dollars
for
tourist
commissions.
That
would
be
through
a
formula
very
similar
to
a
formula.
That's
already
in
place
with
another
program
called
the
tourism
marketing
incentive
plan.
We've
tried
to
whenever
possible,
we've
tried
to
use
or
propose
what's
already
in
place,
rather
than
reinventing
the
will.
D
So
the
the
central
element
in
that
distribution
to
the
tourist
commissions
and
that's
the
one
you
would
be
most
interested
in
giving
your
question
about
about
ensuring
rural
and
smaller
community
inclusion
is
is,
would
be
based
on
the
economic
impact
of
tourism
in
in
each
county,
so
each
county,
using
2019
numbers
and
generally
using
a
formula
that
has
been
working
for
everybody.
D
It
would
be
a
fair
and
and
and
and
equitable
distribution.
Using
that
formula,
oh
and
the
I'm
sorry,
the
the
third
part
for
the
meetings
and
conventions
part
now
that's
where,
depending
on
the
community
community,
we
call
it
destitute,
depending
on
the
destination.
D
When
it
comes
to
meetings
and
conferences
and
conventions,
they're
all
destinations
are
not
necessarily
created,
equal,
there's,
there's
venues
and
so
on
that
enter
into
the
picture
of
who
can
really
rev
up
their
meetings
and
conventions.
D
So
for
that,
we
have
proposed
a
competitive
grant
program
so
that
the
department
of
tourism
can
create
criteria
in
this
program
and
and
and
help
make
the
the
determination
of
where
the
return
on
investment
will
be
the
greatest
for
those
meetings
and
conventions,
money
that
doesn't
preclude
small,
smaller
places.
Small
meetings
are
what's
going
to
get
this,
this
whole
situation
moving
again,
but
but
that
will
be
a
more
targeted
competitive
approach
on
that
third
component.
C
May
I
follow
up
chair.
Thank
you.
I'm
encouraged
to
hear
about
the
formula
the
tourism
industry
is
a
major
driver
in
my
small
rural
kentucky
counties.
My
follow-up
question
is:
do
you
anticipate
there
being
protocols
requirements
of
how
that
money
that
distribution
can
be
spent.
D
Yes,
and
and
let's
again,
trying
not
to
reinvent
the
wheel,
the
there's,
a
statute
that
governs
how
the
department
spends
its
one
percent
transient
money
on
marketing
that
same
statute,
we
are
proposing
that
it's
very
basic
and
fundamental,
but
that
it
be
the
basis
for
how
they
the
department
spends
their
portion
of
these
funds
with
the
middle
part.
The
money
going
out
to
the
tourism
commit
tourist
commissions.
D
I
mentioned
the
tourism
marketing
incentive
program,
all
right,
it's
a
different
kind
of
program,
but
there
is
a
long
list
of
allowable
uses
of
funds.
That's
in
regulation
right
now.
We
see
that
as
the
basis.
Let's
just
take
that
list,
that's
working
and
apply
it
to
these
funds,
and
that
way
we
don't
we
don't
experiment,
we
don't
recreate.
D
We
know
we
know
what
we're
doing,
and
we
know
what
we
will
be
doing
also.
What
that
also
does
is,
instead
of
having
this
funds
over
here
that
already
exist
and
funds
over
here
under
a
new
and
different
set
of
rules,
we
can
bring
that
together
into
a
seamless,
comprehensive
marketing
approach,
rather
than
it
being
sort
of
divided
into
two
pieces.
A
D
We'll
be
sure
that
everyone
gets
it
we'll
go
we'll
circle
back
to
you,
we'll
be
doing
that
anyway.
If
I
might,
let
me
also
mention
informationally,
I
I
know
you
all
received
daily
a
tsunami
of
emails,
but
one
thing
we've
started
doing
is
something
called.
We
call
it
trip
notes
and
we
send
it
twice
once
every
two
weeks
to
every
legislator,
where
we're
trying
to
where
we
talk
about
this
plan
from
its
different
angles
and
aspects.
D
A
I
would
also
encourage
each
member
of
this
committee
to
reach
out
to
your
local
tourism
folks
I
did
that
with
our
director
in
bullitt
county,
just
to
get
an
idea
of
how
the
requested
appropriation
for
counties
would
affect
those
entities.
I
met
with
my
director
they're,
currently
getting
about
eighteen
thousand
dollars
a
year
for
a
promotion
in
their
county.
Under
this
proposal,
bullitt
county
would
receive
613
000
to
promote
local
tourism
and
events
in
your
community.
A
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
mr
phillips.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
presentation,
the
area
I
represent
we're
blessed
with
some
industry,
but
we
are
heavily
dependent
on
travel
and
tourism,
and
one
of
the
things
that
the
chairman
was
speaking
about
earlier
was
about
how
economic
development
and
tourism
tie
together
and
something
I
was
unaware
of
until
just
a
couple
years
ago.
D
So
welcome
if
I
could
follow
up
very
quickly
because
there's
a
story
there's
an
untold
little
story
about
that
whole
quality
of
life
and
the
tourism
fitting
into
it.
We're
also
proud
of
the
work
the
general
assembly
did.
The
governor
everybody
did
on
the
ford
announcement
of
several
weeks
now
ago.
D
They
helped
with
tours.
They
did
presentations
to
these
waves
of
of
of
the
different
ford
teams
that
came
into
the
area,
explaining
how
wonderful
life
is
in
hardin
county,
explaining
what
the
opportunities
are
for
the
families
and
and
the
kids
and
and
all,
and
they
they
were
directly
involved,
as
were
many
many
other
people
don't
want
to
take
anything
away
from
anybody
else,
but
tourism
in
that
way
played
a
role
in
that
mega
decision,
and
that's
just
one
example
of
how
that
can
happen.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
It's
good
to
see
you
hank
see
you.
We've
talked
a
couple
of
times
now,
so
I
appreciate
that
I
just
wanted
a
statement
and
a
question.
If
I
could,
mr
chairman,
tourism
and
travel
really
is
a
critical
aspect
of
kentucky
as
a
whole
and
in
owensboro
my
region
as
well
and,
for
example,
just
recently
we
declared
we
claimed
the
title
of
blue
bluegrass
music
capital
of
the
world
in
owensboro.
F
So
I'm
excited
about
that.
So
I
think
that
people
should
come
see
the
bluegrass
museum
and
hall
of
fame
and
see
why
we're
the
capital
of
the
world
and
and
while
you're
there
maybe
take
a
tour
of
one
of
our
distilleries
and,
of
course,
when
you're
at
the
distillery,
you're
probably
going
to
sample
a
product,
and
I
wouldn't
want
you
to
be
on
the
road
having
sampled
one
of
our
products
at
a
distillery.
F
So
I
would
say,
stay
at
one
of
our
riverfront
hotels
right
next
to
our
convention
center
enjoy
the
evening
and
if
you
want
go
over
to
brashers
little
nashville
enjoy
a
show
at
brashers.
Come
back
to
the
hotel.
Have
a
night
cap
enjoy
the
the
bridge
lights
and
the
riverfront
the
view
that
you
have
and
enjoy
owensboro
and
mr
chairman
I'll
save
day
two
of
my
itinerary
for
the
next
time.
But
now
that
I've
concluded
my
commercial
for
once.
F
Yes,
sir,
I
left
out
barbecue
you
gotta
eat
dinner
somewhere,
so
hickory
moonlight
either.
One
would
be
awesome,
I'm
here
for
you.
So
now
I've
concluded
my
commercial.
My
question
my
serious
question:
we
talk
a
lot
about
return
on
investment
when,
when
we're
talking
about
requesting
funds-
and
I
know
it's
in
your
your
flyer-
I
know
it's
in
your
one
page
before
the
record.
Could
you
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
you
anticipate,
seeing
for
a
return
on
investment
for
the
75
million
that
you're
asking
for
it.
D
Well,
it's
it's
hard
to
get
real,
literally
specific
way.
We
think
about
it
is
in
2020
the
tourism
economic
impact,
declined
2.9
billion
dollars,
we're
asking
for
75
million
to
get
back
2.9
billion
and
more
and
we're
absolutely
convinced
that
that
we
will
be
able
to
do
that.
I
know
that
in
a
few
years
back
there
was
a
study
done
that
showed
that
for
every
dollar
of
marketing
funds
that
were
invested,
fifteen
dollars
came
back.
D
And
and
the
monies
we
give
to
you
you
and
we
can
and
we
will
and
in
our
proposal
there
is
in
each
case
reporting
that
will
be
done
on
the
use
and
the
results
of
of
these
of
these
funds.
A
Chairman,
we
have
three
more
question
questioners
and
we'll
we'll
get
to
those
three,
and
then
we
need
to
move
on
to
our
next
topic.
Our
next
question
is
representative
beckler.
G
G
D
Not
directly,
no
the
you
know,
there's
and,
and
I'm
glad
you
asked
that,
because
in
the
development
of
our
plan,
I
mentioned
this
on
tuesday
in
the
development
of
our
plan.
The
first
question
we
asked
back
back
in
march
when
the
american
rescue
plan
act
was
passed.
We
said,
okay,
tourism
is
in
there.
We
know
we
need
and
can
greatly
benefit
from
these
funds.
D
So,
let's
start
thinking
about
how
and
what
to
propose
and
and
one
of
the
early
questions
was,
should
we
distribute
funds
directly
to
the
businesses
that
make
up
our
industry
and
the
answer?
Our
conclusion
was
no.
We
we
that
would
spread
things
so
thin
and
be
of
limited
impact,
limited
duration.
So
that's
why
we
focused
so
much
on
marketing.
D
However,
whether
it
is
the
state
marketing
kentucky
or
the
louisville
tourist
commission,
louisville
tourism.
Certainly
a
major
attraction
that
will
be
marketed
going
forward
is
the
botanical
garden.
So
that's
that's
how
these
funds
relate
to
a
wonderful
place
like
the
botanical
gardens.
G
Thank
you
next
question.
You
mentioned
the
bill
that
you
hope
we
will
pass
like
the
one
in
tennessee.
Yes,
there
are
other
organizations
in
the
same
general
area
is
as
airbnb.
D
G
D
Not
as
trans
that's
that
would
be
transportation,
I'm
sorry
I'll
be.
This
is
focused
on
retrieving
the
transient
room
tax,
so
it
would
be
focused
on
short-term
rental
in
terms
of
lodging
and
accommodations.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
D
G
Good
deal
to
kind
of
circle
back
around
that
you
made
a
very
crucial
point
in
the
beginning,
and
your
point
was
workforce
participation
and
your
workforce
is
the
biggest
issue
that
you
have
as
well
in
the
state
of
kentucky.
We're
we're
fighting
that
all
over
and
I'd
just
like
to
make
a
comment
about
that.
You
know,
prior
to
the
pandemic,
workforce
participation
was
was
really
bad
as
well.
G
I
think
in
the
bowling
green
warren
county
area,
I
want
to
remember
that
6
500
jobs
needed
to
be
filled
prior
to
pandemic
now
we're
at
7
900.,
but
so
the
and
then,
of
course,
skill
gaps.
We
were
talking
about
reasons
why
we're
having
this
workforce
participation.
You
talk
about
skill
gaps,
child
care
issues,
we've
had
child
care
deserts
for
quite
some
time
been
dealing
with
that
and
I
think
you
know
effectively
we're
trying
to
work
through
some
of
these
things.
Skill
gaps
with
the
community
colleges.
G
We've
been
dealing
with
that
for
a
few
years,
so
I
guess
what
I'm
trying-
and
I
know
that
all
came
from
the
chamber.
You
know,
and-
and
I
listen
to
that
and
and
I
I
agree
with
every
bit
of
it-
if
if
one
would
think,
what's
really
changed,
you
know
why
are
we?
Why
are
we
had
a
lot
of
these
problems
before
you
didn't
go
up
to
businesses
and
have
a
sign
saying?
Okay,
I
don't
have
any
staff
we
have
to
close
the
day.
G
You
know
where
what
has
actually
caused
us
to
go
over
the
edge.
You
know.
Where
are
we
at
and
one
of
the
things
the
chamber
mentioned,
and
so
did
you
is
a
social
safety
net?
So
I
just
want
to
say
that
that
while
we
part
of
our
problem
was,
this
was
with
us
too
much
entitlement,
whether
federal
or
whether
it's
state
we've
had
stimulus
checks.
We've
had
you
know,
tax
credits
we've
had
child
tax.
G
We
have
we've
had
a
lot
of
things
that
we
needed,
but
I
think
what
we're
experiencing
is
that
if
you
give
people
that
opportunity
for
too
long
of
a
time
you
get
this
re-prior,
you
know
what
you
were
talking
about
people
kind
of
getting
used
to
it,
and
you
know
what
saying
you
know
if
I
can,
if
I
can
get
these
this
entitlement
this
time,
maybe
I
can
figure
it
out,
not
go.
So
how
do
we
fix
that?
I
think
right
here.
G
I
think
we
have
to
point
out
that
I
do
believe
in
the
free
market.
I
believe
that
we'll
all
come
back,
but
I
don't
think
we
will,
unless
we
understand
that
things
like
you
know:
extensive
medicaid
expansion,
you
know
where,
where
people
are
are
literally
having
their
health
care,
their
food
stamps,
their
child
tax
care
stimulus,
money,
there's
so
much
so
much
that's
happened
and
we
can't
undo
that.
G
But
I
want
to
encourage
at
least
myself,
and
maybe
you
too,
I
do
believe
that
that,
while
you
haven't
seen
a
lot
of
change
since
since
we've
stopped
some
of
the
unemployment
stuff
coming
in,
but
there's
a
lot
of
other
things
that
that
need
to
to
be.
G
You
know
brought
back
in
into
balance
and
I
do
believe
the
free
market
will
correct
all
this.
It's
just,
I
think,
while
we,
when
we
give
artificial
stimulation
to
this
economy,
and
we
drive
inflation
up
like
we
have
now
we
see
now
we
see
businesses
closing
up
everywhere.
Our
small
business
community
is,
and
then
that
becomes
development,
that's
related,
obviously
tourism
and
travel,
and
so
just
when
they
were
talking
about
the
botanical.
I
do
a
lot
of
development.
I
couldn't
wait
to
get
down
there.
I'm
thinking
hotels,
fast,
casual
fitness.
G
You
know,
there's
a
lot
of
good
things
around
around
that
botanical
garden
be
great,
but
you
got
to
have
the
work
force.
I'm
going
back
to
what
you
said.
It's
this
biggest
thing
since
cove
the
coed
concerns,
and
hopefully
that's
we'll
all
pray,
that's
going
behind
us
and
let's
all
work
together,
and
I
appreciate
your
presentation,
but
I
just
couldn't
help
but
point
that
out.
I
appreciate
you
pointing
it
out.
Thank.
D
We
know
that
we
and
I'm
saying
the
collective
we,
but
in
all
things
there
has
to
be
balance
and
that's
and
that's
the
tough
tough
part,
and
that
my
my
heart
and
my
mind
goes
out
to
you
all,
because
you
all
are
the
ones
who
have
to
from
your
differing
perspectives
and
districts
and
all
you
you
all
have
to
focus
in
on
those
things
and
say:
what's
the
right
balance
and
well,
I
I.
G
B
Thank
you.
Do
you
know
how
much
the
current
marketing
incentive
budget
is
total
that
we
put
in
for
all
the
local
commissions.
D
That
that
program
I
was
referring
to,
which
is
actually
a
matching
funds
program
again
we're
not
proposing
these
monies
to
be
matching
funds.
But
if,
if
your
question
is
for
the
program,
we
were
using
kind
of
as
a
model
for
the
distribution
and
the
uses,
that's
two
million
dollars
spread
across
the
the
state
and
that's
not
the
only
money
those
organizations
receive,
but
that
program,
specifically
the
funding
amount
of
it-
is
two
million
dollars.
D
It
is
it,
it
varies,
it
is
for
certain
things,
50
50.,
but
for
other
things,
it's
a
9010
match
the
state
matches.
90
the
department
does
there's,
there's
certain
designated
uses
of
the
funds
that
they
try
to
incentivize
with
a
much
higher
match
than
other
broader
uses.
But
I
do
want
to
be
clear.
D
What
we're
proposing
is
is
not
a
matching
situation,
just
the
uses
is,
and
the
type
and
the
distribution
is
what
we're
referring
to.
B
D
B
D
If
I'm
understanding
the
question,
I
might
not
be
so
straight
me
out,
if
I'm
not,
but
the
the
the
use
of
these
funds
within
the
parameters
of
allowable
uses,
the
determination
as
it
is
with
all
funds
a
tourist
commission
receives,
would
be
the
determinate,
the.
U
the
the
precise
application
of
the
funds.
What
are
we
going
to
invest
in
this
magazine
versus
this
digital
advertising
versus
other
strategies?
D
B
B
D
B
Mr
chairman,
my
question
to
follow
up
is
the
reporting
because
arpa
funds
have
to
be
used
within
the
designated
time
frame.
20
24
2026,
if
they're
already
allocated
so
I'm
trying
to
get
a
handle
on
do
our
tourist
commissions
have
to
spend
all
of
this
money
by
2024
or
once
they
get
the
lump
sum
check.
We
can
send
the
report
to
the
federal
government
say
it's
been
sent
to
the
tourist
commission
and
then
they
could
use
it
for
10
years.
D
I
I
think
that
the
use
of
the
funds
has
to
be
done
within
that
arpa
time
frame.
D
But
that's
a
excellent
question.
We
we
need
to.
I
need
to
get
you
a
better
answer
than
the
one
I
just
gave
you
and
one
other
thing
I
want
to
say
really
really
fast,
and
that
is
the
the
formula
for
the
the
precise
formula
for
distribution
hasn't
been
determined
and
even
though
we
think
it
needs
to
be
based
generally.
D
Similarly,
on
one
that's
used
in
in
use,
now
it
it's
it's
a
little,
I
don't
call
it
dangerous,
but
it's
a
little
tricky
in
terms
of
managing
expectations
before
we
know
what
that
formula
will
be
managing
them
up
and
down
as
to
exactly
how
much
the
30
and
remember
it's
35
million,
as
we've
proposed
it
to
go
out
to
the
tourist
commissions.
D
So
what
for
any
single
tourist
commission,
what
that
number
might
translate
into
is
is
still
in
the
to
be
determined
realm
due
to
the
the
exact
formula
needing
to
be
determined.
So
it's
a
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
guesswork,
so
it
did
you.
I
would.
D
I
would
suggest
proceeding
cautiously
as
far
as
trying
to
arrive
at
some
kind
of
a
number,
because
what
I
can
tell
you
is
that,
as
I've
already
mentioned,
that
that
tourism
marketing
incentive
program
has
two
million
dollars
in
it,
we're
proposing
for
the
same
general
formula,
35
million.
So
you
can
sort
of
do
some
general
fuzzy
math,
but
that
doesn't
necessarily
get
you
to
an
exact
number
per
tourist
commission.
D
A
A
H
H
It
is
my
hope,
though,
this
morning,
to
discuss
other
other
macroeconomic
conditions
and
their
impact
on
labor
force
participation,
as
well
as
provide
a
little
bit
of
background
on
kentucky
and
national
trends
in
labor
force
participation.
H
So
representative
sheldon
stole
a
little
bit
of
my
thunder
on
this
already
only
because,
while
the
task
before
you
is
herculean
because
of
the
time
period
that
we
have
just
lived
through,
unfortunately
kentucky's
starting
point
as
it
relates
to
labor
force,
participation
was
not
a
particularly
good
one
so
beginning
in
the
early
1980s
1981
in
particular,
the
united
states
labor
force
participation
rate
and
kentucky's
labor
force
participation
rate
began
to
separate
from
one
another.
H
The
national
rate
began
to
improve,
while
the
kentucky
rate
was
stagnant
or
declining
by
1988
kentucky
had
a
labor
force,
participation
rate
4.5
percentage
points
lower
than
the
united
states
rate
again.
That
was
due
largely
to
increases
in
the
u.s
rate,
while
kentucky's
rate
was
declining
or
flat
as
a
as
sort
of
an
aside
and
a
note,
labor
force
participation
has
generally
been
declining,
both
in
the
united
states
broadly
and
in
kentucky.
Since
about
2001.
H
That
is
not
a
a
linear
trend.
There
have
been
instances
of
improving
labor
force
participation
rate
since
2001,
but
as
a
general
trend.
Since
that
time
period,
labor
force
participation
rates
nationally
and
in
kentucky
have
been
declining
for
most
of
the
last
decade,
kentucky's
labor
force
participation
rate
has
been
between
three
and
four
percentage
points
lower
than
the
u.s
rate
in
february
of
2020.
The
last
full
month
of
data
unimpacted
by
the
kovid
19
pandemic
and
associated
lockdowns
kentucky's
rate
was
four
percentage
points
lower
than
the
national
rate
by
june
of
2020.
H
H
So
there's
a
growing
area
of
of
academic
intrigue
in
the
relationship
between
economic
freedom
and
labor,
force
participation
and
so,
first
and
foremost,
defining
economic
freedom
is
important.
So,
broadly
speaking,
economic
freedom
is
the
ability
of
individuals
within
a
society
to
take
economic
actions,
which
is
obviously
very
broad,
but
has
some
very
real
policy
implications.
H
So
the
fraser
institute,
which
is
a
public
policy,
think
tank
in
canada,
regularly
publishes
the
economic
freedom
in
north
america
report.
It
gives
aggregate
scores
and
economic
freedom
to
every
state.
It
also
does
this
for
canadian
provinces
and
mexican
states,
because
it
is
the
economic
freedom
in
north
america
report
for
our.
But
for
our
purposes
the
united
states
index
is
is
the
most
relevant.
Obviously,
it
breaks
overall
economic
freedom
down
into
three
sub-categories
government
spending
practices,
taxation
and
sort
of
regulatory
practices
over
the
last
decade.
H
Kentucky
is
consistently
ranked
in
the
bottom
quartile,
but
has
been
steadily
improving
its
score
since
2010
in
2010.
It
had
an
overall
score
of
4.69
that
is
out
of
a
possible
10
in
the
most
recent
report,
which
was
just
released
earlier
this
week,
which
uses
2019
data.
There's
a
two-year
data
lag
in
their
work.
Kentucky
emerged
from
the
bottom
quartile
for
the
first
time.
H
This
decade
was
ranked
37th
in
the
country
and
had
an
overall
score
of
5.60.
So
almost
a
full
percentage
point
increase
over
that
nine-year
period.
We've
historically
lagged
both
the
nation
and
surrounding
states
in
both
labor
force.
H
Think
about
your
workforce
when
you
think
about
regulations
in
the
workplace
think
about
workforce
when
you're
thinking
about
occupational
licensing
think
about
workforce,
these
things
matter
and
they
matter
to
the
environment
that
is
created
in
your
state
and
kentucky,
unfortunately,
has
a
fair
bit
of
work
to
do
in
this
space.
We
have
additional
research
on
some
of
those
sub
areas
that
if
there
is
particular
interest
among
committee
members,
I
am
happy
to
provide
those.
I
Thank
you
very
much
when
I
pulled
the
paperwork
for
this
presentation
last
night.
I
was
very
intrigued
because
I've
never
heard
of
this
index.
It
wasn't
something
covered
during
my
coursework
for
an
mba
at
uofl,
not
in
economics,
not
in
international
finance.
I
It
was
not
covered
in
any
of
the
course
work
that
I
did
for
a
phd
in
entrepreneurship,
also
at
uofl.
So
I
was
intrigued.
What
is
it
so?
I
went
to
google
and
I
pulled
a
couple
articles
and
one
article
declared
that
these
rankings
are
nonsense,
and
so
I
looked
at,
I
wasn't
familiar
with
the
source
and
they
probably
lean
as
far
to
the
left
as
the
founders
of
these
rankings
lean
to
the
right.
So
I
tried
to
find
a
more
balanced
view.
I
So
now
my
interest
is
really
trying
to
figure
out
what
what
does
all
of
this
mean,
and
so
I
did
find
an
article
that
was
about
the
national
rankings,
the
national
index,
which
you're
discussing
and,
according
to
this
article,
this
index
is
not
able
to
predict
a
state's
economic
growth
and
a
state
such
as
california,
which
is
consistently
ranked
near
the
bottom
of
these
rankings.
I
I
I
H
There
are
a
number
of
studies
that
I
did
not
include
in
the
one
pager
that
you
have
in
front
of
you
that
I
would
be
happy
to
provide
that
actually
speak
directly
to
the
question
of
women
in
the
workforce,
and
there
have
been
a
number
of
studies
that
are
not
the
product
of
the
ethno
report,
but
that
are
sort
of
academic
journal
studies
that
look
specifically
at
the
question
between
female
employment
and
economic
freedom
in
in
the
workplace
and,
of
course,
as
with
this
issue
and
any
other
when
dealing
with
questions
of
of
economies,
there
are
multifaceted
reasons
why
economies
perform
well
or
do
not
right.
H
It
would
be
malpractice
on
my
part
to
come
here
and
say
that
a
single
economic
indicator
could
save
the
state
in
one
way
or
another.
California
is
a
much
larger,
remarkably
more
diverse
economy
than
we
are,
but
generally
speaking,
and
not
just
in
the
ethno
report,
but
in
a
number
of
of
academic
journal
studies,
states
with
greater
levels
of
economic
freedom
have
higher
levels
of
labor
force
participation,
and
there
are
causal
reasons
for
that
again.
It's
certainly
not
exclusive,
but
but
as
a
general
trend
among
states.
I
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
thank
you,
mr
phillips,
for
I'm
sorry,
mr
crawford
for
for
being
with
us
this
morning,
presenting
thinking
about
economic
freedom
and
over
the
years
I
worked
in
small
business,
and
I
saw
a
number
of
people
who
were
moving
to
the
state.
My
question
was
always
why
here
you
know,
why
do
you
choose
small
town
kentucky
from
various
parts
of
the
country,
large
city
cities
at
times,
and
some
sometimes
that
off
the
answer
often
came
back?
Is
there
are
more
government
benefits
here
in
kentucky?
E
I
I
can
get
more,
and
can
you
be
clear
on
that?
Is
that
one
of
the
things
that
contributes
to
our
workforce
participation
rate,
because
in
in
recent
weeks
I
have
had
conversations
with
people
on
ebt
the
snap
benefits,
and
it's
found
out
it's
very
common
for
people
to
carry
balances
of
several
thousand
dollars
in
snap
benefits
which
they,
it
seems
like
a
lot
to
me
and
they
have
no
incentive
to
work
when
things
are
so
easy.
So
could
you
be
clear
on
that?
H
Yeah,
I
think
there
are
a
number
of
contributing
factors
that
are
somewhat
unique
to
kentucky
the
the
first
and
the
most
clear
is
the
nature
of
our
economy.
We
have
a
disproportionate
number
of
folks
who
fall
into
job
categories
that
were
harder
hit
over
the
the
last
18
to
22
months
than
some
other
states.
Do
we
have
a
larger
percentage
of
our
workers
in
service
industries
and
things
like
that.
H
For
example,
we
have
a
smaller
percentage
of
our
population
overall
with
things
like
bachelor's
degrees
and
and
in
less
resilient
occupations,
fewer
occupations
that
could
go
truly
remote
and
still
work,
but
questions
of
government
transfer
payments,
subsidizing
sort
of
not
working
and
the
impact
of
those.
There
was
a
conversation
with
the
the
last
gentleman
who
presented
about
finding
that
balance
between
creating
a
safety
net.
That
is
appropriate
because
we
don't
want
our
fellow
citizens
to
go
hungry
but
at
the
same
time
not
creating
an
environment
that
disincentivizes
work.
H
I
think
we
are
living
through
a
time
period
that
will
force
us
to
reevaluate
those
questions
in
a
number
of
ways,
and
there
are
a
number
of
studies
that
have
looked
at
that
question.
Specifically,
I
don't
know
about
kentucky
specifically,
but
I'm
happy
to
to
take
a
look
at
that
and
provide
that
that
research,
if
it
exists.
C
H
Sure
so
that
index
looks
at
a
number
of
factors
and
and
the
sort
of
three
sub
categories
are
taxation,
so
you're
talking
total
tax
burden,
everything
from
property
taxes,
sales
taxes,
income
taxes,
regulations
cover
everything
from
occupational
licensure
licensure
to
work,
place,
regulations,
things
like
that,
and
government
spending
primarily
focuses
on
what
was
just
talked
about,
which
deals
with
transfer
payments
and
and
social
safety
net
programs.
Things
of
that
nature.
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
My
question
is
very
similar
to
a
couple
other
questions
that
have
been
brought
up
and
I'm
glad
when
you
made
your
presentation.
C
You
know
you're
kind
of
looking
back
about
20
years,
we're
getting
a
big,
solid
picture
of
things
and
the
the
metrics
that
that
you
just
talked
about
when
responding
to
representative
king's
question,
the
the
big
things
government
spending
government
taxation,
government
regulation
all
exist
at
some
level
everywhere
and
then
sort
of
there's
a
you
can
focus
in
on
those
details
and
sort
of
proceed
accordingly.
C
Like
you
said
we're
living
in
really
interesting
times.
I
actually
wrote
down
that
you
said
just
lived
through
because
I'm
not
as
confident
that
we're
in
the
past
tense
on
that.
Yet,
but
I'm
glad
you
are,
I'm
glad
you
know,
it'll
be
a
few
years,
probably
before
we'll
know
when
this
sort
of
ended,
but
I
wrote
down
some
sort
of
some
pandemic
related
and
I
wrote
down
some
of
what
my
other
colleagues
mentioned
about.
C
What
I
see
in
here
is
really
immediate
workforce
participation,
barriers-
and
I
know
you've
been
in
front
of
this
committee
and
other
committees
talking
about
some
of
these
issues
as
well
and
I'll
just
name
a
couple
of
them:
the
sheer
number
of
deaths
from
kovid.
You
know
we're
at
around
700
000
in
the
us
10
000
in
kentucky
some
of
those
were
members
of
the
workforce,
and
you
know
those
are
people
who
have
you
know
permanently
left
the
workforce.
C
Representative
bojanowski
talked
about
and
everybody's
talking
about
right
now,
women
leaving
the
workforce
and
child
care
issues.
Those
are,
I
think,
those
are
linked.
Pretty
well
baby,
boomer,
retirements,
huge
right,
huge,
I'm
thinking
about
my
parents
who
have
they
don't
they're?
Not
they
don't
need
to
work.
You
know
financially,
but
they're.
C
At
least
my
dad
for
the
next
few
weeks
is
still
under
65,
and
but
they
they
have
permanently
left
the
workforce,
and
we
have
a
you
know:
that's
a
whole
huge
age
group
in
our
country,
then
something
that
we'll
be
grappling
with
for
a
while
in
terms
of
workforce.
I
think
lack
of
lawful
immigration
status,
reform
people
who
are
in
you
know
in
our
state
and
counties
right
now.
C
Who
who
would
do
anything
you
asked
them
to
do,
but
they
couldn't
pass
an
I-9
representative
sheldon
brought
up
the
skills
gap
representing
baker
brought
up
benefits.
I
know
you've
been
in
front
of
our
committee
numerous
times
talking
about
second
chance,
employment
and
expungement,
related
issues
that
you
know
get
more
people
in
the
workforce.
C
H
This
gives
us
the
opportunity
to
talk
not
just
about
where
we
are
today
on
workforce
issues,
but
because
kentucky
has
for
so
long
lagged
the
nation
on
workforce
issues.
While
that
might
be
the
case
and
what
can
can
be
done
to
remediate
that
right,
second
chance,
employment,
obviously
a
huge
part,
getting
women
who
want
to
re-enter
the
workforce
back
into
the
workforce.
H
H
So
all
of
those
things
are
super
relevant
and
and
in
some
ways
part
of
my
goal
in
being
here
today
is
to
have
you
all
and
your
colleagues
think
about
workforce
questions
outside
of
just
questions
of
whether
a
company
comes
to
kentucky
or
whether
a
job
training
program
is
successful
or
whether
a
specific
set
of
transfer
payments
is
a
disincentive
to
work,
but
that
so
many
of
the
policies
that
you
touch
that
touch
the
economy.
More
broadly
touch
questions
of
labor
force
participation.
H
This
is
a
this
will
seem
like
a
small
example,
but
it's
a
particularly
relevant
one
to
both
kentucky
and
the
the
kobit
19
pandemic.
Restaurants
and
restaurant
owners
were
particularly
hard
hit
by
this
time
period.
Restaurant
closures
are
particularly
hot.
H
What
is
not
a
relatively
capital
intensive
process
is
owning
and
operating
a
food
truck,
but
the
ways
in
which
opening
and
operating
a
food
truck
in
the
commonwealth
of
kentucky
are
significantly
more
difficult
than
they
are
in
some
of
our
surrounding
states
and
some
of
the
states
across
the
nation,
red,
blue
or
otherwise,
and
so
for
for
a
population
that
has
in
particular
dealt
with
or
has
been
particularly
hard
hit
by
this
time
period.
That
could
be
an
avenue
of
of
relief
for
them.
That
again,
isn't
the
result
of
a
transfer
payment
program.
H
A
Sorry
any
other
questions
coming
from
members
of
the
committee
josh.
Thank
you
for
your
presentation,
appreciate
it
appreciate
you
coming
today
all
right
members,
if
you'll
note,
item
number
six
on
the
report
on
on
our
agenda,
we
do
have
reports
that
this
committee's
received.
They
don't
require
any
action
or
discussion
today.
As
I
said
earlier.
This
concludes
our
meeting.
Our
final
meeting
of
the
interim.
A
A
Please
begin
doing
so
now.
Before
closing,
I
want
to
wish
everyone
on
this
committee.
Our
staff
and
those
that
are
here
today
wish
you
happy
thanksgiving,
and
at
this
moment
I
will
entertain
a
motion
to
adjourn.
We
have
representative
lockett
representative.