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A
Okay,
we
have
some
minutes
to
approve.
We
have
the
minutes
from
october
19th
meeting.
Is
there
a
motion?
Second,
we
have
a
motion
and
second,
all
in
favor
say:
aye
aye
minutes
are
approved
before
we
get
started.
Representative
smith
has
a
guest.
He
would
like
to
introduce.
K
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
It's
with
honor
that
I
can
introduce
you
to
a
close
friend
of
mine
and
known
probably
by
most
of
you
is
bob
mitchell
from
congressman
hal
rogers
office.
He
was
his
chief
of
staff
for
34
years
and
now
I'm
mainly
his
advisor,
but
it's
a
privilege
to
have
him
in
the
room
today
and
bob
if
you'll
stand
up
we'll
welcome
you
to
our
committee.
A
Thank
you
good
to
have
you,
sir,
any
other
guest
before
we
get
started
very
good
all
right.
Well,
thank
you.
So
much
our
agenda.
We've
added
the
arpa
funding
discussion
to
our
agenda
to
help
get
a
clear
understanding
of
why
certain
arpa
capital
project
fund
appropriations
have
recently
been
rescinded.
A
We
have
first,
though,
I'd
like
to
get
kind
of
a
school's
view
of
this,
and
we
have
with
us
today
mr
steven
evans,
who
is
the
bath
county
superintendent.
A
Mr
evans
school
was
one
of
the
13
schools
that
were
included
in
this
funding
that
we're
addressing
today,
and
so
mr
evans,
if
you'd
like
to
just
kind
of
give
us
some
background
a
little
bit
on
the
school
and
then
how
you've
been
proceeding
over
the
last.
D
Thank
you,
senator
mills,
thank
you
all
for
having
me
here
today.
First
time,
I've
set
a
chair
like
this.
So
if
I
break
any
decorum,
just
let
me
know,
but
I
am
the
first
year
superintendent
bath
county
schools,
I'm
originally
from
central
kentucky.
So
my
history
of
bath
county
is
a
little
limited,
but
we
have
a
middle
school.
That's
over
100
years
old.
It
had
a
renovation
many
many
years
ago,
it's
a
it's
a
beautiful
building,
it's
a
in
the
centerpiece
of
our
downtown
in
owensville.
D
It's
the
community
loves
it.
We
could
never
do
anything
with
that
building.
I
was
told
very
nicely.
You
know
if
you
were
to
tear
this
building
down,
that
it'd
be
the
last
day
that
you'd
be
in
this
district.
They
they
love
it
so,
and
so
it's
a
beautiful
old
building.
D
When
I
arrived
it
was
our
district
facilities
plan
had
we
were
looking
to
build
a
new
facility
and
and
renovate
that
for
some
alternative
means,
but
we
don't
have
the
the
bonding
capacity
to
do
that,
and
so,
when
these
funds
came
forward,
bath
county
received
7.1
million.
D
D
D
They
came
back
and
they
informed
me
on
there
that
the
funding
was
gone.
The
reasoning
behind
that
was
the
art
funding
was
designed
more
for
buildings
that
are
community
buildings,
not
school
buildings,
and
so
a
letter
was
sent
within
the
week
stating
that
that
funding
they
apologized
funding's
gone.
But
if
we
could
do
something
during
the
the
regular
session
here
that
they
would
attempt
to
do
that.
A
So
very
good,
along
the
along
the
way
of
did
you
feel
like
that
this
money
was
was
promised,
or
was
it
clearly
communicated
that
it
was
subject
to
federal
guidance
or
how
was
that
communicated.
D
A
So
it
was
it
was.
It
was
a
surprise
to
you
when,
when
you
found
out
that
it
was
no
longer
available.
I
Good
afternoon-
and
this
isn't
much
question-
it
is
a
comment
taking
the
tour
that
bath
county
middle
school,
which
one
of
the
oldest
oldest
in
the
state-
and
I
don't
know
that
any
district
school
districts
have
ever
had
to
do
more
with
less
to
keep
that
system
up
and
running
and
their
custodial
staff.
I
mean
they
have
done
an
amazing
job
up
in
there
working
patching
things,
keeping
keeping
the
whole
thing
together
and
that
building
is
a
staple
to
community,
because
everybody
in
bath
county
has
gone
to
school
there.
I
At
some
point,
it's
very
hard
to
find
somebody
that
didn't
didn't
attend
school
there.
But
if
you
want
to
talk
about
it
being
an
issue
of
health,
you've
got
a
hundred
year
old
building,
you've
got
plaster
crumbling
in
some
areas.
You've
got
downstairs
with
the
mold.
I
don't
know
how
that
you
can
expect
without
proper
ventilation,
to
go
in
there
and
be
able
to
sanitize
one
of
those
rooms
if
you're
going
to
go
spray
down.
I
If
you
have,
you
know,
porous
wall,
you've
got
holes
in
it
and
everything
else
and
you've
got
to
come
in
there
and
spray
it,
and
I
really
think
the
administration
needs
to
take
a
second
look
at
this,
because
this
is
very
much
a
health
issue
and
it's
very
much
what
these
cares.
Monies
were
intended
for,
in
my
opinion.
So
thank
you,
mr
superintendent,
thanks
for
being
here
today.
Thank
you,
mr.
D
Cook-
and
I
we
have
you
mentioned-
we
have
a
great
facilities
director,
we
have
great
people
and
so-
and
I
no
way
want
to
draw
a
picture
of
our
building.
That
would
look
down
upon
them,
but
the
things
that
you
say
are
absolutely
accurate.
We
do
have
issues
like
I
said
the
mold
we're
doing
our
best
to
bait.
All
that
and
take
care
make
sure
our
kids
are
safe
and
we
do
a
good
job
of
that.
D
But
that
facility
beyond
is
beyond
normal,
upkeep
and
repair
major
renovations
necessary
to
keep
it
keep
it
going.
G
Mr
chairman,
mr
superintendent,
over
here
to
your
right-
yes,
sir
here
so
I
understand
you
all
were
had
looked
at,
it
was
going
to
be
around
12
million
dollars
for
what
you
really
needed,
and
but
you
had
to
go
back
and
you
had
to
basically
redesign
to
make
this
7.1
fit
and
I'm
assuming
that
come
at
a
cost
to
you
all.
D
G
D
I
apologize
I,
I
can't
can't
tell
you
that
number
off
top
my
head,
but
probably
several
thousand
dollars,
but
other
the
architects
and
and
things
like
that.
Most
of
this
job
was
started
before
I
took
office
in
july
one.
So
I
apologize.
G
No,
no,
that's
fine!
I
completely
understand
the
point
I
want
to
make
is
a
commitment
was
made
to
you
all.
Yes,
sir,
you
spent
moneys
because
of
that
commitment
that
you
had
to
pay
out
of
pocket
and
then
that
commitment
wasn't
carried
through
and
now
you're
all
just
out
that
money.
You
just
essentially
threw
it
in
the
wind,
because
you
was
doing
what
you
were
asked
to
do
to
be
able
to
receive
the
funds
that
was
committed
to
you.
D
D
Superintendent,
thank
you
for
being
here
with
us
today
and
thank
you
for
driving
down,
as
it
relates
to
the.
D
All
transitioned
with
the
process
we
just
went
through
a
couple
of
months
ago,
within
the
last
month
when
I
came
in,
they
were
already
looking
at
that
before
I
started
in
june.
They
were
talking
about
the
renovation
and
had
people
looking
at
it,
but
once
the
7.1
was
what
we
thought
was
guaranteed,
then
we
went
through
the
process
last
month
to
reunite
the
facilities
committee
and
bring
it
in
and
change
that
it's
a
little
some
steps.
D
You
have
to
go
through
change
your
facilities
plan
from
renovation
from
new
to
renovation,
and
when
was
the
first
time
you
were
notified
that
the
funds
would
not
be
available
about
two
weeks
ago.
If
they
were
put
on,
they
said,
let's
put
a
hold
on
it.
I
think
it
was
60
days,
but
it
could
have
been
90
and
then,
after
that,
when
those
that
timeline
was
up,
it
kept
being
we'll
we'll
know
something
in
two
weeks,
we'll
know
some
two
weeks,
so
it's
been
several
months.
E
You,
mr
chairman,
superintendent,
I
appreciate
you
being
here
today.
Government
can
be
very
frustrating
in
our
packet.
We've
received
a
response
from
the
governor's
office
on
this
issue.
Have
you
seen
that
document.
D
I
received
a
a
letter
and
I
received
a,
I
would
say,
not
a
powerpoint,
but
like
a
document
from
the
federal
government
sure
it
may
be
the
same
thing
that
you're
referring.
E
Okay-
mr
chairman,
I'd
like
to
read
into
the
record
part
of
the
letter
from
the
administration.
It
says
the
school
sfcc
met
on
june
2
2021
and
voted
to
issue
additional
offers
to
support
to
13
school
districts.
Implementing
the
appropriation
made
in-house
bill
556
recognizing
that
the
final
federal
guidance
had
not
yet
been
published.
E
E
E
They
were
advised
that
the
final
federal
guidance
had
not
yet
been
published,
absent
the
guidance
it
was
uncertain
as
to
when
or
if
the
federal
funding
would
be
available.
The
school
districts
were
advised
that,
given
the
uncertainty,
it
might
be
unwise
to
make
any
preliminary
expenditures
relating
to
the
affected
projects.
E
D
No,
when
I
came
on,
I
was
not
aware
of
that,
but
we
didn't
start
any
construction
based
on
the
final
eyes
once
they
started
saying:
let's
hold
off,
let's
go.
E
A
Very
good,
any
other
questions
for
mr
evans.
F
A
And
the
reason
that
I
had
mr
evans
go
first
is
just
to
give
an
example
of
what
we're
hearing
and
kind
of
the
pushback
that
we
are
getting
from
constituents
now,
the
main
part
of
our
meeting
we
have
online.
We
have
director
state
budget
director,
john
hicks
and
secretary
kerry.
Harvey
gentlemen.
Can
you
hear
me?
A
Yes,
mr
chairman,
very
good,
very
good,
thank
you
so
much
for
being
here
this
afternoon
and
thank
you
for
your
letter
on
friday.
We've
all
digested
that
and
read
that,
if
you
could,
if
you
could
move
forward
and
and
highlight
your
letter,
your
reply
to
us
to
help
us
have
some
more
clarity
in
this
issue.
M
M
M
As
you
just
said,
last
friday
the
governor
sent
a
full
explanation
in
a
response
letter
to
president
steivers
and
senator
osborne
throughout
these
last
number
of
months.
You
know
the
governor
and
the
governor's
office
have
had
some
regular
routine
communication
with
the
minority
and
majority
and
minority
leadership
of
both
chambers
on
this
topic.
M
But,
most
importantly,
today,
we'll
explain
the
governor's
recommended
solution
to
this
issue,
one
that
will
meet
the
legislative
intent
for
getting
these
projects
done
as
planned
and
one
that
provides
no
downside
to
any
other
element
of
the
budget.
A
little
bit
of
the
backdrop
to
help
you
understand
the
context
and
the
complexity
of
the
situation.
M
In
march
of
2021,
the
american
rescue
plan
act
was
passed.
It
included
two
new
programs
for
states,
the
coronavirus
state
fiscal
recovery
fund,
for
which
you
all
appropriated
funds
for
broadband
deployment,
water
and
wastewater
sewer
infrastructure
and
in
the
coronavirus,
capital
projects
fund,
and
it
was
you
know,
given
the
limited
amount
of
days
that
were
left
in
the
21
session,
the
governor
and
the
general
assembly
reviewed
the
legislative
text.
M
Together,
we
were
all
reading
from
the
same
federal,
new
federal
statute
about
the
programs
and
came
up
with
an
agreed
upon
recommendation
to
appropriate
127
million
for
urgent
needs
schools
through
the
school
facilities,
construction,
commission
and
58
million
for
projects
mostly
dealing
with
the
next
phase
of
the
capitol
building's
renovation.
M
And
so
we
were
all
we
were
all
looking
at
the
same
wording
and
in
fact
let
me
just
quote.
You
know
this:
the
statue,
the
state
statute,
sorry,
the
federal
statute
for
making
payments
to
states
to
carry
out
critical
capital
projects
directly
enabling
work,
education
and
health
monitoring,
and
so
we
were
all
looking
at
that
and
trying
to
figure
out
in
a
short
period
of
time.
M
What
what
are
current
needs
here
in
the
commonwealth
that
might
meet
those
tests
and-
and
we
work
together
with
the
general
assembly-
you
know
to
get
the
appropriations
and
so
the
and
then
so
so
at
the
time,
the
governor
right
after
you
all
enacted
the
budget
and
house
bill
556
and
others,
he
appointed
several
members
of
his
cabinet
to
lead
some
of
these
projects
in
implementation,
for
example,
I've
been,
I
was
asked
to
help
lead
the
broadband
deployment
project,
senator
harvey
sorry
secretary
harvey.
He
was
asked
to
lead.
M
You
know
this
project
working
with
school
facilities,
construction,
commission,
the
department
of
ed
so
showing
the
governor's
priority
on
implementing
these
projects
that
the
legislature
had
approved
and
so
then
the
and
that
that
process
began
and
secretary
and
secretary
harvey
will
be
able
to
recount
that.
But
we
got
a
foreshadowing
of
a
problem
related
to
those
decisions
in
may
of
2021
through
what
the
u.s
department
of
treasury
issued
an
unusual
statement
on
purpose
and
process
around
the
corona
virus
capital
projects
fund.
M
This
was
not
official
guidance,
nor
was
it
an
an
interim
rule
or
a
final
rule,
and
this
statement
indicated
that
the
capital
projects
fund
nationally
was
targeted
to
increasing
internet
connectivity
rather
than
capital
projects
that
enabled
work,
education
and
health
monitoring
and
in
fact
it
added
the
word
jointly
to
those
three
elements
and
so
governor,
then
personally,
reached
out
and
had
a
phone
call
with
u.s
department
of
treasury
secretary,
janet
yellen
and
the
white
house
lead
on
the
arpa
fund,
gene
sperling
and
strongly
expressed.
M
You
know
his
disagreement
with
kind
of
the
targeting
of
that
statement
that
had
been
put
out
in
in
indicating
and
explaining
the
rationale
that
the
legislature
and
the
administration
had
come
to
in
in
proposing
127
million
in
in
urgent
needs
school
projects,
and
subsequently
I
had
a
couple
of
conversations
with
the
lead
officials
at
the
u.s
department
of
treasury,
again
explaining
kentucky's
thinking
behind
why
we
did
what
we
did
in
the
budget
process
and
how
we
think
thought
it
fit
with
the
legislative
text.
M
And
so
there
was
strong
encouragement
that
when
the
u.s
treasury
put
out
its
final
guidance
that
it
would
incorporate.
You
know
those
kinds
of
thoughts
from
kentucky
and
and
other
states
who
were
acting
on
those
funds
and
said
upon
a
past
and
so
to
to
fast
forward,
then
turn
it
over
to
secretary
harvey.
We
did
not
receive
federal
guidance
on
this
on
the
use
of
these
funds
until
september
10
2021..
They
finally
issued
his
guidance.
You
know
six
months
later
and
in
part
due
to
the
governor's
entreaties
to
the
federal
government
officials.
J
Thank
you,
mr
hicks,
and
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
with
the
committee
today
has
john
indicated.
The
governor
asked
me
to
work
with
the
school
facilities
construction
commission
to
implement
this
particular
portion
of
house
bill
556
and
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
work
particularly
closely
with
the
school
facilities,
construction,
commission
staff
during
this
process,
and
I
do
want
to
complement
that
staff.
It's
a
it's
there's
only
two
of
them,
but
they're,
very
talented
and
they
work
very
hard
and
they've
been
really
good
people
to
work
with.
J
As
we
went
about
this
business,
we
identified
the
necessary
steps
to
implement
the
general
assembly's
appropriation
and
and
just
to
make
sure
that
we're
clear
on
what
that
appropriation.
Did.
It's
probably
important
to
talk
in
in
a
little
bit
of
detail
about
how
556
worked
house
bill.
556
mandated
that
offers
of
assistance
were
to
be
made
to
fund
projects
that
were
ranked
the
highest
on
the
kentucky
facility's
inventory
and
classification
report.
J
Has
that
report
existed
on
february,
27,
2020,
and
so
that's
that's
an
important
fact
to
to
note,
because
these
were
the
house
bill.
556,
as
it
was
passed
by
the
general
assembly,
did
not
contemplate
that
new
projects.
J
J
J
J
As
time
went
on,
we
continued
to
receive
no
final
federal
guidance
from
the
u.s
treasury
department.
The
guidance
had
been
promised
to
be
delivered
sometime
in
the
summer.
As
of
june
2nd.
I
think
there
was
still
optimism
in
all
circles
that
this
money
would
be
available
and
that
these
projects
would
proceed
as
envisioned
by
house
bill
556,
but
as
time
went
on
and
there
were
continued
communications
with
the
department
of
treasury
with
no
satisfactory
conclusion.
J
We
did
become
increasingly
concerned
about
this
delay.
So
in
an
effort
to
keep
the
districts
informed
as
to
the
the
status
of
this
appropriation,
we
convened
zoom
calls
as,
as
I
recall,
on
july,
26th.
J
If
my
memory
serves,
I
think
we
may
have
had
two
of
them
so
that
to
try
to
make
sure
everybody
from
each
affected
district
could
attend,
and
the
message
we
delivered
during
those
calls
was
that
we
were
still
awaiting
the
final
federal
guidance
from
the
treasury
department,
but
that
the
delay
was
causing
some
concern
about
when
these
funds
would
be
available
or
even
if
the
funds
would
be
available
for
that
purpose.
Even
though
we
had
all
contemplated
that
that
would
be
the
case.
J
Obviously,
obviously
the
general
assembly
contemplated
that
as
well,
but
we
convened
those
calls
in
order
to
keep
the
districts
up
to
date
and
also
to
let
them
know
that
that,
because
of
this
uncertainty,
it
might
not
be
wise
to
spend
resources
on
these
projects
that
that
were
already
on
the
drawing
board.
As
of
february
27
2020,
we
we
were
concerned
that
they
might
go
out
and
hire
design
professionals
and
that
sort
of
thing,
and
we
were
again
increasingly
concerned
about
the
absence
of
the
federal
guidance.
J
So
that
was
the
the
meeting
that
we
had
on
july
26
with
with
these
districts.
J
The
final
guidance
ultimately
was
received
has,
as
mr
hicks
noted
in
september
of
this
year
from
the
u.s
treasury
department.
That
was
a
20-page
document
of
some
complexity.
So
we
went
about
doing
an
analysis
of
that
as
extensively
and
accurately
as
we
could
and
we
concluded,
and
we
were
disappointed
to
do
so.
But
we
concluded
that
the
12
school
projects
would
not
likely
meet
the
criteria
for
funding
from
this
particular
source
of
federal
money
because
of
the
the
way
that
the
federal
treasury
guidance
was
constructed.
J
In
particular,
the
guidance
indicated
that
a
project
in
order
to
be
eligible
for
funding
must
meet
three
criteria
and
must
meet
all
three
of
these
criteria
must
directly
advance
work,
education
and
healthcare
monitoring
and
the
guidance
was
surprisingly
at
least
to
me.
It
was
surprising
clearly
slanted
toward
broadband
projects.
J
We
also
informed
these
districts
that
governor
bashir
believed
that
these
were
very
important
projects
and
that
he
fully
supported
that
these
projects
be
completed
and
that
he
intended
to
work
with
the
general
assembly
to
identify
additional
sources
of
funding
so
that
these
projects
could
could
proceed
as
quickly
as
possible,
and
I
think
director
hicks
has
has
worked
very
hard
and
I
think
an
additional
or
alternative
source
of
funds
has
been
identified.
J
But
throughout
this
process
we
first
communicated
to
these
districts
that
these
offers
of
assistance
were
conditioned,
of
course,
upon
actual
availability
of
the
federal
funding,
and
has
that
funding
was
called
into
question
by
the
delay
from
the
treasury
department.
We
communicated
with
those
districts
that
we
were
concerned
about
that
and
that
it
would
perhaps
be
unwise
to
begin
spending
money
on
those
projects
until
the
situation
was
clarified,
and
so
with
that
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
my
colleague,
mr
hicks,.
M
M
We
want
to
address
this
problem
and
achieve
the
intended
aims
of
the
original
appropriations
to
do
in
the
following
way.
We
want
to
switch
the
appropriation
of
the
127
million
to
the
school
facilities,
construction
commission
for
these
12
projects
from
the
coronavirus
capital
projects
fund
to
the
coronavirus
state
fiscal
recovery
fund.
M
This
will
require
action
by
the
the
general
assembly,
and,
let
me
explain,
one
of
the
eligible
uses
of
the
state
fiscal
recovery
fund
is
for
something
termed
revenue
losses,
a
very
complicated
calculation
that
each
state
will
take
with
the
funds
that
can
be
directed
to
eligible
governmental
services
based
on
our
preliminary
calculation
of
revenue
loss.
As
of
december
31,
2020
required
by
the
federal
guidance,
the
commonwealth
will
have
approximately
220
million
that
will
be
eligible
to
be
used
for
the
provision
of
governmental
services.
M
Alternatively,
the
use
of
the
127
million
for
broadband
deployment
projects
from
the
corona
virus
capital
projects
fund
also
fits
with
that
fund's
eligible
uses.
So
the
governor's
recommendation
is
to
basically
swap
we
subtract
127
million
from
the
coronavirus
capital
projects
fund
and
shift
it
over
to
the
other
fund
for
school
projects,
and
we
do
the
reverse
for
the
broadband
projects
so
that
the
same
amount
of
money
appropriated
by
the
general
assembly
still
is
intact,
but
simply
switches.
M
The
two
sources
of
funding
which
will
require
action
by
the
general
assembly
and
the
governor
would
encourage
that.
This
is
an
action
that
can
take
place
in
the
early
days
of
the
22
regular
session,
because
it
has
no
other
impact
related
to
the
other
parts
of
the
budget.
So
we
hope
we
can
work
together
to
accomplish
this
purpose.
Everybody
agrees
on
the
ends
that
we
want
to
meet,
and
now
we
have
an
alternative
way
to
get
there
that
subscribes
to
the
the
recent
federal
guidance.
A
Very
good,
thank
you,
director,
hicks,
just
just
a
couple
questions.
Then
we've
got
several
other
questions
in
line
here.
It
was.
There
was
a
couple
a
couple
times
you
mentioned
about
in
governor
beshear's
letter
when
he
talked
to
secretary
yelling
and
mr
sperling
and
made
reference
to
possibly
maybe
the
the
guidance
is
a
little
bit
different
from
the
federal
legislation
and
the
law
that
was
passed.
Could
you
touch
on
that
again
is?
A
Is
it
the
administration's
opinion
that
maybe
you
know,
there's
been
some
the
president
and
the
guy
that
president's
administration
in
the
guidance
has
done
some
rewriting
of
of
this
measure?
A
M
Sure
be
glad
to
no,
I
I
don't
think,
there's
any
question
that
we
disagree
with
the
approach
that
the
u.s
treasury
department
made,
with
the
guidance
over
these
portions
of
the
guidance.
Now
at
the
time,
our
only
inkling
that
there
was
a
concerning
issue
with
the
plans
that
we
had
in
kentucky
was
this
statement
of
purpose
and
process
that
they
issued
back
in
may.
That
again
was
only
kind
of
a
you
know,
a
first.
You
know
prologue
to
ultimately
what
we
would
learn.
M
That's
when
we
found
out
or
saw
you
know
that
maybe
they
were
focusing
on
internet
connectivity
and
broadband
with
this
project
rather
than
what
we
were
reading
in
the
federal
statute.
So
that
was
what
prompted
the
conversations
with
the
federal
officials
in
washington
was.
You
know
we
were.
We
were
kind
of
reading
between
the
lines
of
what
may
be
coming
down
the
pipe
and
we
wanted
to.
M
We
wanted
to
impress
upon
those
officials
one
how
we
were
seeing
it
here
in
kentucky
how
the
administration,
the
general
assembly,
saw
it
and
what
you
already
did
took
action
appropriation
specifically
for
you
know
for
these
efforts
and
we
shared
that
you
know
with
them
and
and
so
no,
I
don't
think
I
don't
think
I
can
any
problem
saying
that
we
we
disagree
with
the
approach
they
ultimately
took
with
the
guidance
as
secretary
harvey
you
know,
explained
in
detail,
but
we
kind
of
you
know,
but
at
the
time
it
is
what
it
is
and
we've
got
another
solution.
M
You
know
to
come
up
with
it,
but
we
were
disappointed
and
and
the
governor
way
ahead
of
the
guidance
you
know
expressed
his
strong
concerns
right.
A
So
there
is
not
any
other
possibilities
of
any
pushback
from
the
administration
from
kentucky's
point
of
view,
possibly
legal
action
or
anything
of
that
nature.
That
would
help
get
some
more
clarity.
This
or
is
in
your
opinion,
is
the
the
answer
in
the
guidance,
the
answer.
M
Yeah,
we
think
that
you
know
that
with
the
guidance
is
final,
and
so
so
we
don't
expect
any
adjustments
to
be
made.
You
know
to
the
guidance
they
did
not
choose
the
path
of
of
having
the
equivalent
of
a
proposed
administrative
reg
and
then
a
comment
period.
You
know
and
then
the
final
reg.
So
this
this
is
guidance
and
and
it
is
treasury,
it's
our
understanding
that
it's
final
guidance
and
so
that's
why
we
began
looking
for
you
know
another
way
to
resolve
the
problem.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
director
hicks
we've
been
talking
about
12
different
school
districts,
that's
impacted
here.
We
obviously
know
that
bath
county
is
one
of
those.
Could
you
please,
because
there
are
people
watching
online
and
on
ket?
Could
you
please
give
us
the
list
of
the
12
districts
that
are
not
going
to
be
receiving
this
money?
This
money.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
I
was
actually
one
question
I
was
going
to
ask
of
the
of
the
13
districts
that
were
offered
support,
which
district
did
not
accept
the
offer
of
support.
J
I
believe,
and
and
I'm
subject
to
correction,
but
I
believe
it
was
hart
county
and
and
there
can,
as
I've
learned
there
can
be
any
number
of
reasons
why
a
district
might
do
that
again.
This
was
never
funding
that
was
offered
to
completely
build
a
project.
J
This
is
funding
that
is
offered
when
a
district
has
a
project
on
the
facility
priority
list,
and
it
has
some
bonding
capacity,
but
not
enough
to
fully
build
the
project.
So
this
funding
fills
that
gap
as
it
were,
so
that's
there.
There
could
be
any
number
of
reasons
why
districts
priority
might
have
changed
and
again
I
think
it's
important
to
remember
that
house.
Bill
556
did
not
contemplate.
It
was
not
a
situation
where
the
appropriation
was
made
in
556
and
then
school
districts
said
well.
J
E
Thank
you
and
for
any
of
the
members
who
are
interested,
I
actually
have
a
copy
of
all
the
districts,
all
the
schools,
how
much
your
local
local
bonding
capacity
is
and
how
much
the
grant
would
be
for
each
individual
school
reach
out
to
me
and
I'll
be
glad
to
send
that
to
you
director
hicks.
I
just
want
clarification.
E
E
Now
this
127
million
we're
not
we're
not
using
additional
harper
money,
we're
just
changing
the
account
make
sure
I
understand
this,
we're
just
changing
the
account
that
we're
appropriating
this
money
to
so
it
can
be
utilized
for
this
purpose.
Am
I
correct
my
understanding?
You
are
correct.
Thank
you.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Mr
harvey
budget,
director
hicks,
you
know
I
represent
martin
county,
which
is
probably
one
of
the
poorest
rural
counties
in
the
commonwealth
of
kentucky,
and
I
think
we've
heard
today
some
of
the
other
challenges
these
facilities
are
are
facing
in
terms
of
mold
and
ventilation
problems.
F
You
know,
although
these
many
of
these
projects
were
already
on
the
books,
some
of
the
problems
that
they
were
facing,
it
seems
to
me,
bear
directly
with
safety
measures
that
might
also
have
to
do
with
cobit,
particularly
you
know,
kids
getting
clean
air
being
in
a
safe
facility
where
they're
not
exposed
to
the
hazards
of
the
virus.
To
what
extent
did
the
administration
attempt
to
advocate
for
these
projects
in
the
sense
that
they
would
also
be
applicable
to
covet
related
measures,
even
though
they
were
already
on
the
books.
M
I,
I
would
add,
I
know
secretary
harvey
had
recounted,
you
know
he
he
we
both
did.
You
know
very,
you
know
significant
analysis
of
reading
the
guidance
in
in
and
we
agree
with
the
statements
you've
made.
I
mean,
there's
no
question
that
it's
related
to
public
health.
You
know,
but
it
may
not
be
related
to
health
monitoring
and
in
combination
to
have
a
facility
that
also
combines
work
and
education.
Well,
education
is
easy
right.
M
These
are
school
projects
and
health
monitoring,
and
then
some
of
the
other
elements
that
he
described
is
is
why
we
think
you
know
it
is.
You
know
extremely
unlikely.
You
know
to
be
approved
under
under
those
guidance
and
and
so
again,
that's
why
we
want
we
pivot.
You
know
to
another,
you
know
a
solution.
You
know
that
can
be
done.
You
know
here
in
a
couple
of
months
and
and
again
doesn't
have
any
negative
effects
on
any
other
part
of
the
budget.
J
And
I
would,
I
would
say
that,
and
I'd
be
happy
to
have
a,
I
suppose,
a
fuller
discussion
about
what's
in
the
federal
guidance.
But
when
we
analyze
the
the
final
guidance
I
mean
we
were
looking
for
ways
to
cause
our
projects
to
be
qualified.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
it
seemed
to
us
that
it
was
extremely
unlikely
that
that
the
projects
could
qualify
under
this
guidance
and
that
attempting
to
do
so
would
create,
in
all
likelihood
much
more
delay
with
disappointment
at
the
end
of
the
road.
J
F
Mr
chairman,
if
I
might
be
permitted
to
brief
follow-up,
yes,
please
to
what
extent
would
say:
construction
of
newer
facilities
like
vocational
schools
with
perhaps
a
health
care
ordering
event.
You
know
industrial
cleaning
or
pre-nursing
degrees.
Would
such
facilities
be
available
for
new
construction
under
the
federal
guidance.
J
You
know
that
I
I
want
to
be
careful
not
to
speculate
too
much,
because
this
guidance
is
rather
complicated,
but
I
I
suspect
that
now
that
the
guidance
is
out
that
it
would
be
possible
to
design
something
a
facility
like
you
are
suggesting.
If
you
designed
it
specifically
specifically
to
hit
all
of
the
bogeys
that
are
included
in
the
guidance,
then
yes,
you,
you
could
probably
get
there,
but
it's
clear
from
the
guidance
that
it
does
not
favor
the
construction
of
school
projects.
J
Again,
the
guidance
goes
to
some
pains
to
specifically
say
that
school
projects
are
not
categorically
presumed
to
be
eligible,
whereas
broadband
projects
are.
But
with
that
said,
if,
if
you
sit
down
with
a
blank
sheet
of
paper-
and
you
designed
a
project
that
was
designed
around
this
criteria,
I'm
sure
you
could
get
there.
M
And-
and
I
would
add
to
secretary
harvey
that
when
you
get
an
opportunity
page
six
of
that
guidance,
you
know
lines
out
exactly
what
secretary
harvey
just
said:
when
could
a
full
service
community
school
project
be
an
eligible
use
of
these
funds,
and
so
at
least
the
guidance
provides
some
path
to
an
example
like
like
you
were
expressing,
and
so
so
I
just
you
know,
come
in
to
take
a
look
at
because
that's
under
a
category
that
they've
labeled
multi-purpose
community
facility
projects,
they
laid
out
several
examples
of
what
is
possible:
a
full
service
community
school.
M
You
know,
you
know
even
a
library
or
a
community
health
center,
so
you
know
so
there.
As
secretary
harvey
said,
you
know
they
they've
diagrammed
out.
You
know
what
might
be
possible
in
that
arena.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
thank
you
all
for
your
testimony.
I
can
tell
you
as
a
kentucky-
and
it
pains
me
to
know
that
we
have
a
governor
that
doesn't
have
very
much
influence
with
a
white
house
that
he
endorsed
or
the
congress
is
controlled
by
his
own
party.
What
a
difference
two
and
a
half
years
make
here
in
kentucky.
C
M
The
the
federal
guidance
on
the
that's
the
coronavirus
state
fiscal
recovery
fund
is
the
2.1
billion
that
that
we
were
allocated
has
a
very
specific
set
of
calculations
that
states
and
cities
can
make
in
order
to
calculate
what
is
a
revenue
loss
under
their
under
their
requirements,
and
so
our
controller's
office
here
with
the
finance
administration
cabinet,
took
that
particular
information
and
did
those
calculations
and
those
calculations
are
based
at
the
end
of
each
calendar
year.
M
So
we
had
a
calendar
year
ending
december
of
2020
and
based
upon
the
use
of
the
required
information.
You
know
that
was
the
result,
and
every
every
state
and
city
government
has
been
going
through
this
calculation
to
see
what
what
it
yields
and
so
the
flexibility
that
the
guidance
provides
when
you
come
up
with
that
figure
such
as
I
was
describing,
pago
capital
projects
like
we're
talking
about
with
the
schools,
is
one
of
the
the
many
uses
that
could
be
provided
with
with
that
part
of
the
state
fiscal
recovery
fund.
C
M
C
Thank
you
director,
mr
trump.
Give
me
a
little
bit
of
leeway
here.
I'm
going
to
read
you
some
comments
director
from
an
article
written
september,
the
22nd
of
2021.
The
article
is
titled.
C
Why
andy
beshear
is
resisting
gop's
call
for
a
special
session
to
pay
for
doctors
and
nurses
written
by
joe
sanka
with
the
courier
journal,
and
in
that
article
talks
about
how
I've
been
advocating,
I
think
very
publicly
about
using
81
million
of
arpa
funds
to
help
with
our
retention
and
recruitment
of
nurses
and
all
kinds
of
medical
therapists
and
critical
care
personnel,
and
when
they
asked
the
governor,
why
we
couldn't
do
that.
I'll
quote
his
remarks
here.
C
He
said
that
all,
but
the
69
million
dollars
of
the
arpa
funds
received
by
the
kentucky
had
already
been
appropriated
for
other
purposes,
regardless
of
what
was
sent
to
senate
republicans
before
the
session
with
state
government
not
receiving
the
final
1.1
billion
dollars
of
arpa
funds
until
the
middle
of
next
year
quote.
This
is
accounting
right.
The
dollars
are
either
in
the
bank
or
they're,
not
bashir
said,
and
the
general
assembly
has
appropriated
every
dollar
of
arpa
funds
that
we
have
and
he
goes
on
and
I
can
read
the
entire
article.
C
You
can
look
it
up
for
yourself,
but
it
talks
about
how
I
said:
hey.
We
can
reappropriate
funds
to
help
find
money
for
this,
and
his
response
was
no
there's
no
more
money
available
and
he
made
several
public
statements
in
september
after
our
special
session
saying
that
there's
no
money
available
so
director
hicks,
are
you
lying
to
me
here
today
or
did
the
governor
lie
to
us
back
in
september?
That's
my
question
for
you.
M
M
The
governor's
you
know
indicated
that
and
the
other
limitation
that
the
general
assembly
put
on
the
use
of
these
funds
is
that
the
coronavirus
capital
projects
fund
or
the
coronavirus
state
fiscal
recovery
fund
there
could
be
no
uses
unless
appropriated
by
the
general
assembly.
So
so
so
that
is,
you
know
that
would
be
my
response.
C
Yeah,
thank
you
director.
I
don't.
I
don't
agree
with
your
response.
I
think
it's
clear
what
you're
asking
us
to
do
is
reappropriate
funds
shift
arpa
money
from
one
section
to
another.
I
think
they
can
be
used.
The
same
thing.
I
was
arguing
to
do
back
in
back
in
during
our
special
session
since
then,
and
the
response
from
the
governor
is.
We
can't
do
that
so
clearly.
We
can
at
least,
if
you're
telling
us
the
truth
today
that
we
can
do
those
things,
and
I
appreciate
that
because
I
think
that
authority
stands
within
this
group.
C
That's
listening
to
this
testimony
today,
but
I
suggest
perhaps
that
you
get
together
with
your
boss
with
the
governor
and
have
some
discussions
to
determine
which
direction
you
want
to
go.
Instead
of
giving
us
mixed
messages,
giving
the
press
mixed
messages,
you
can
see
how
frustrating
this
can
be
for
us,
because
this
governor
has
been
wrong
about
plenty
of
things
throughout
his
administration
things.
He
thought
he
was
right
on
legally
only
to
have
our
supreme
court
throw
in
his
face
and
say
you're
absolutely
wrong.
C
A
Thank
you
and
before
we
leave
the
subject
of
this
calculated
loss,
when
I
read
the
governor's
four
page
response,
I
I
I
don't
know
if
anybody
else
was
caught
off
guard
but
to
say
that
we
had
a
loss
when
we
have
record
revenues
record
rainy
day
funds.
Are
we
100
sure
that
we're
calculating
this
loss
correctly
to
where
we're
not
coming
back
here
in
six
months
from
now
and
saying
whoops,
we
miscalculated
this
loss,
and
now
we
can't
use
this
money.
Are
we
real
confident
about
the
guidance
on
that.
M
M
You
know
that
that
that
for
for
many
state
and
local
governments,
you
know
provided
an
ability
to.
You
know
to
calculate
a
revenue
loss
under
their
guidance.
You'd
be
you're,
correct
in
terms
of
the
general
perception
of
what
what
happened
to
state
tax
revenues.
That's
an
accurate
statement,
but
given
the
way
that
they
allowed
the
calculation
to
occur,
it
did
come
up
with
a
revenue
loss
and
we've
we're
very
confident
about
that
figure.
A
N
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
If
I
can.
My
first
question
is
these
funds,
this
220
million
revenue
loss
that
I
you
know
all
these
funds?
Have
this
almost
the
same
exact
name,
so
I
get
mixed
up,
sometimes
on
which
money
we're
talking
about,
but
is
it
my
understanding
that
the
220
million
is
part
of
a
greater
whole
and
if
and
220
is
the
calculated
part
of
that
hole?
N
M
For
sorry,
yes
senator
you
are
correct.
The
220
is
a
part
of
the
state
fiscal
recovery
fund
and
that's
the
2.1
billion
that
the
commonwealth
received,
of
which
about
1.1
billion
the
general
assembly
appropriated
in
the
2021
session,
and
so
the
so
the
220
becomes
a
potential
use
of
the
remaining
1
billion.
That
representative
tipton
alluded
to
earlier.
N
M
It
does
include
the
300
million
for
the
broadband,
the
250
million
for
water
waste
water
and
the
572
million
for
a
repayment
of
the
federal
unemployment
insurance
loan
and
a
few
other
smaller
items.
N
N
N
A
N
Correct
so
I
understand
sometimes
it's
easier
to
work
with
people
that
are
local
instead
of
far
away.
I
just
wanted
to
get
an
idea
because
you
did
mention
earlier
this
is
this
solution,
maybe
is
less
trouble
than
what
it
could
be,
but
I
wanted
to
go
back
and
review
and
senator
wheeler
started
into
this
on
the
actual
allowed
uses
for
these
funds
relating
to
the
fall
through
with
the
school
issue
and
the
letter
that
the
governor
wrote-
and
I
know
the
guidance
is
more
detailed,
but
it
does
quote
from
the
guidance.
N
So
it
says,
addressing
a
critical
need
here
is
quoting
from
the
guidance,
a
critical
need
that
resulted
from
or
was
made
apparent
or
exacerbated
by
the
coven
19.,
and
I
wanted
to
highlight
because
I
feel
like
what
hasn't
really
come
out
yet
is
center
wheeler
started
into
it
and
I
hope-
and
I
don't
know
for
sure
if
the
administration
is
100
aware,
but
a
lot
of
these
schools
in
these
communities-
I'm
not
speaking
for
every
single
community
on
this
list.
But
I'm
thinking
there's
a
number
of
communities
out
there
like
this.
N
That
aren't
even
on
this
list
that
this
guidance
would
for
sure
cover
much
in
much
better
detail
than
we're
covering
it
today,
we're
talking
about
schools
and
when
we
think
of
schools,
we
typically
think
of
the
schools
in
our
districts
wherever
we
live,
because
those
are
the
schools
that
we're
most
familiar
with
or
the
schools
we
attended
if
we
attended
a
different
school,
but
I
wanted
to
highlight
the
work
that
I've
done
in
areas
such
as
bath
county
in
that
area,
where
these
are
students
who,
more
than
other
students
in
other
areas
of
the
state,
don't
have
internet
connections
at
home.
N
N
N
Well,
usually
that
means
driving
to
the
school
parking
lot
and
using
wi-fi,
and
we
had
a
lot
of
hot
spots
and
different
things
in
the
community
trying
to
solve
some
of
these
issues
during
the
cove
pandemic
and
the
issues
that
were
made
apparent
or
exacerbated
were
things
like
people
are
going
to
the
school
not
only
for
education,
they're,
going
to
school
for
an
internet
access,
they're
going
to
school
for
health
care
access,
they're
going
to
school
for
a
lot
of
things
similar
to
the
public
library
which
was
listed
on
this
people
are
going
to
public
library
for
internet
access,
they're
going
the
public
library
to
find
a
job.
N
Okay,
yes,
you
qualify
for
the
case
by
case
basis.
Compared
to
the
you
know,
swaparoo
that
we
can
pull
off
over
here
might
be
more
effort
than
it's
worth.
I
hear
that,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
understands
we're
not
just
talking
to
school
and
whereas
in
february
2020,
maybe
they
needed
this
building.
What
I
heard
was
bath
county
needed
a
building.
N
Now
they
changed
their
plan
to
remodel
their
old
building.
What
changed
coven
is
one
one
reason,
so
I
want
to
get
a
better,
clearer
idea
of
how
much
the
administration
thinks
the
effort
has
been
made
or
could
be
made
to
advocate
for
our
rural
communities
at
the
national
level.
M
Yet
about
the
multi-purpose
community
facility
project,
so
we
were
speculating
in
a
similar
format
that
you
did
I'm
very
familiar
with
a
number
of
schools,
school
buildings
in
in
kentucky
that
serve
as
adult
education
for,
and
literacy
providers
as
a
location,
I'm
familiar
we're
very
familiar
with
schools
in
in
kentucky
that
do
career
and
technical
and
vocational
training
and
some
of
those
schools
even
open
in
the
evening
in
order
to
provide
adults.
M
You
know
with
that
training
because
of
their
capacities
in
their
technical
schools,
and
you
know
in
health
monitoring.
You
describe
a
school
nurse,
but
you
know
there
could
be
situations
where
schools
partner
with
the
local
health
department
to
periodically
you
know,
have
health
monitoring
and
other
efforts.
You
know
using
the
community's
school,
you
know
as
a
physical
location,
so
we
we
certainly
give
gave
that
you
know
some
thought
in
anticipation
of
the
guidance
and
and
in
the.
H
M
We
were,
we
were
concerned
about
the
risk
of
trying
to
maybe
shoehorn
a
project
that
didn't
have
those
intended
scopes
into
this,
and
so
that
that
was
why
we
kind
of
pivoted.
You
know
to
the
other
solution,
though,
a
lot
of
what
you
say
is
is
similar
to
the
thinking
that
we
had
about.
You
know,
meeting
the
statutory
language.
You
know
that
we
read
back
in
in
march
of
2020.
L
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
My
my
point
that
I
want
to
make
is
to
mr
harvey
and
mr
hicks
as
a
representative
martin
county,
I'm
very
disappointed
in
in
what
has
taken
place.
L
Secondly,
it
is
critical
that
you
all
do
what
you
can
to
correct
the
situation,
and
I
would
appreciate
it
if
you
would
keep
me
informed,
as
I
can
keep
our
local
people
informed
of
what's
taken
place.
Thank
you.
J
I
would
just
say
that,
obviously,
we
too
are
disappointed
with
the
the
result
and
the
conclusion
to
be
drawn
from
the
final
federal
guidance
and
again,
the
governor
and
director
hicks
have
formulated
a
plan
that
will
result
in
these
very
important
projects
being
completed.
And
so
there
is
a
solution
on
the
table,
and
I
certainly
hope
that
these
projects
move
forward
with
alacrity.
H
Director
hicks,
thanks
for
being
here
not-
and
I
apologize-
this
isn't
directly
related
to
the
topic,
but
it
is
arpa
related
representative
bratcher
and
I
have
two
chapter:
75
fire
districts
that
offer
ems
services
and
in
that
role,
they've
had
a
lot
of
cost
related
to
covid.
They
have
had
impacts
to
their
revenue,
plus
they
provided
the
standby
ems
services
for
the
mega
site
for
vaccine
mega
site.
Yet
they
are
not
eligible
for
metro's
allocation
of
arpa
funds.
H
M
Thank
you,
representative
miller.
You
know,
I
won't
try
to
predict.
What's
part
of
our
budget
coming
up.
I
am
familiar
with
the
example
that
you
mentioned
and
in
fact
you
know
had
a
brief
discussion
with
those
two
fiery
districts.
You
know
some
time
back
prior
to
their
submitting.
You
know.
The
letter
you
know
to
the
governor
is,
as
I
was,
trying
to
understand
their
their
constitution
so,
and
we
were
really
talking
about.
M
You
know
possible
eligible
uses
of
the
state
fiscal
recovery
fund
against
what
they
were
describing,
as
you
know,
pretty
much
the
costs.
You
know
that
they
had
been
enduring.
You
know
in
a
as
a
result
of
the
the
cove
and
their
response
to
it,
so
we
are
familiar
with
it.
We
and
I
don't
want
to
diminish
their
request.
It
was
very
important.
We've
received
lots
of
requests.
M
I
will
say
you
know
in
the
in
the
last
couple
of
several
months,
aiming
at
that
remaining
one
billion
dollars,
and
so
you
know
gonna
be
a
lot
of
you
know:
decisions
to
make
for
very
legitimate
purposes.
H
A
Okay,
we
have
one
one
other
part
of
our
meeting.
We
had
invited
miss
chelsea,
couch
the
executive
director
for
the
school
facilities,
construction
commission
to
the
meeting
and
her.
She
was
the
author
of
one
of
the
letters
that
communicated
some
information
to
our
superintendents
and
I'd
just
like
to
ask
miss
couch
if
she
had
anything
else
to
add
to
help
our
understanding.
Thank
you
so
much.
B
B
I
don't
have
anything
to
add
the
letter
that
I
sent.
We
were
in
constant
communication
with
these
districts
trying
to
keep
them
apprised
of
what
was
going
on
as
much
as
I
could.
We
were
as
transparent,
as
I
think
we
possibly
could
have
been.
The
last
letter
was
a
request
when
our
last
zoom
conference
a
superintendent
requested,
so
that
he
could
give
something
physical
to
his
local
board.
So
that's
why
that
letter
went
out.
E
A
Director
hicks
and
commissioner
harvey-
are
you
still
on?
Yes,.
J
A
Yeah
very
good,
sir,
very
good.
I
believe
that
is
all
of
our
questions
and
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
answering
these
questions.
You
know
these.
These
are
tough
questions,
but,
to
be
honest
with
you,
you
know
we're
asking,
because
we
need
to
be
informed
and
when
we
start
getting
calls
and
concerns
from
schools
of
major
construction
funds
lost.
A
It's
just
important
for
us
to
know,
as
the
representatives
and
people
closest
to
our
community
what's
going
on,
and
I
think
that's
the
point
of
of
of
our
meeting
today
is
we
need
more
communication,
not
less,
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
spending
money
properly
and
you
know
we
believe
it.
It
was
our
position
to
appropriate
these
funds
and
we
want
to
see
them
spent
the
way
that
we
appropriate
them
and
we
need
to
be
involved
if
there
are
changes
involved
in
that.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
so
much,
sir.
I'm
going
to
kind
of
make
an
executive
decision
here,
representative,
miller's
bills
that
are
on
our
agenda.
He
is
going
to
be
presenting
those
bills
to
ppob
in
about
an
hour
and
is
required
to
do
that.
So
just
if
you
get
a
chance
to
look
at
these
pension
bills
that
are
will
be
coming
forward
in
the
next
session,
we'll
let
representative
miller
present
those
to
ppob.
A
A
We've
had
state
government
is,
is
actually
staffed
by
quite
a
few
folks
that
do
the
work
behind
the
scenes,
and
I
want
to
just
make
sure
that
we
thank
our
staff
members
alicia
miller
to
my
right
is
the
committee
staff
administrator,
michael
collins,
daniel
carter,
kevin
delvin,
brad
gross
jennifer,
haynes
kevin
or
karen
powell,
andrew
salman
sharon
tubbs
angela
rhodes
and
peggy
shantarelli.
I
still
hadn't
learned
peggy's
name
how
to
pronounce
it,
but
let's
give
them
a
round
of
applause
and
thank
them
for
their
help.
A
Thank
you
very
good.
If
there
are
no
other
business,
is
there
a
motion
to
adjourn?
Is
it
say
all
in
favor
say
aye?
We
are
adjourned.
Thank
you.
So
much.