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A
I
think
our
last
couple-
a
couple
have
been,
unfortunately
through
virtual
and
we're
so
glad
to
have
you
and
look
forward
to
spending
some
time
with
you
this
morning
with
that
two
guys
that
probably
don't
need
any
introduction,
but
for
the
cameras
and
the
ket
they
do
so,
if
you
would
general
jones,
if
you
want
to
start
and
work
your
way
over
towards
corian
and
introduce
the
whole
slate
and
then
we'll
turn
it
over
to
general
lamberton
or
whoever.
Yes,.
B
C
Floor
is
yours
thanks,
sir.
I
appreciate
it
so
chairman,
thomas
gentlemen,
lady.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
with
you
all
this
morning
and
for
me
to
be
able
to
talk
about
the
men
and
the
women
that
we've
gotten
to
the
guard.
As
I
said
just
a
moment
ago,
your
national
guard-
it
generally
is
a
a
pleasurable
item
for
me
to
do
so.
C
Just
quite
simply
the
the
folks
that
we've
gotten
of
the
guard
these
days,
the
men
and
the
women,
the
soldiers,
the
the
airmen,
it's
as
high
a
quality
group
as
I've
seen
since
I've
been
a
guardsman
so
and
some
of
you
know
directly
either
through
personal
experience
or
indirectly,
because
they're
part
of
your
constituency
or
you've
seen
them
respond
in
various
types
of
incidents
across
the
the
commonwealth,
even
outside
the
commonwealth.
C
But
but
that
said,
I
wanted
to
share
with
you
all
some
of
the
the
latest
things
that
we,
the
national
guard,
have
been
engaged
with.
So
so
corian.
If
you
go
ahead
and
flip
forward
a
couple
of
slides,
I
think-
and
I
know
because
it's
impacted
some
of
you
all
directly
and
the
areas
that
you
represent
your
constituency,
some
folks,
more
likely
that
you
probably
know
directly
and
so
wanted
to
jump
right
into
that,
the
the
flooding
that
we
are
still
engaged
with
today.
C
You
know
back
in
late
july
when
we
initially
got
to
the
call
up
to
respond
to
it
like
like
many
things
and-
and
I
know
that
some
of
you
are
aware
of,
but
the
kentucky
national
guard
and
emergency
management
are
tied
together
and,
and
I
think
that's
very
much
a
beneficial
relationship
wow.
C
We
first
were
aware
of
it
of
the
the
wednesday
prior
because
of
the
the
storm
front
that
was
coming
in
and
just
the
projected
impact
that
can
have
on
a
lot
of
the
the
areas,
the
hills
and
haulers.
C
If
you
will,
which
are
prone
to
sudden
and
flash
floods
in
that
area,
so
so
initially
when,
and
I
think
it
was
within
the
first
24
hours
that
we
started
alerting
our
helicopters
and
in
particular
because
we
knew
that
the
first
type
of
mission
that
we
would
get
engaged
with
would
be
a
search
and
rescue
type
of
mission.
And,
as
some
of
you
all
are
aware
of,
it
wasn't
just
the
aviation
assets
out
of
the
kentucky
national
guard.
But
we
really
saw
the
escalation
of
the
incident
pretty
quickly.
C
So
within
the
first
36
hours.
Or
so.
We
immediately
called
upon
our
brethren
in
both
tennessee
for
their
aviation
assets,
also
in
west
virginia
for
their
aviation
assets.
And
so
at
the
high
point
we
had
helicopters
responding
not
only
from
the
kentucky
national
guard,
tennessee
west
virginia
to
the
ksp.
C
You
know
to
coordinate
all
of
these
flying
entities
to
to
ensure
quite
simply
that
one
didn't
crash
into
another,
because
this
wasn't
all
necessarily
daytime
operations,
but
we
also
had
authorized
drones
flying
in
the
area
and
you
know
all
distinguished
authorized
drones
from
unauthorized
drones,
and
so
that
actually
is
a
big
concern
of
ours.
At
this
junction
you
know
the
drones
themselves
is
described
it
as
being
authorized.
C
Those
are
a
very
controllable
entity
and
then
you've
got
to
the
folks
who
are
just
hobbyists.
If
you
will
go
out
and
buy
their
own
little
drone.
Wouldn't
it
be
a
neat
idea
if
I
could
launch
it
and
fly
it
out
there
to
get
an
aerial
observation
platform,
but
it
very
much
is
a
interfering
entity
to
all
the
active
aircraft
throughout
the
air
box
itself.
C
You
know
on
a
single
aircraft,
a
uh-60
blackhawk
aircraft,
even
with
the
seats
removed
on
the
inside,
maybe
you'll
get
a
max
load
of
10
people
and
that's
without
all
the
emergency
and
the
the
life-saving
equipment
that
goes
into
it.
So
just
do
the
math
yourselves
think
how
many
aircraft
lifts
that's
going
to
evolve,
to
get
1350
folks,
rescued
or
removed
from
the
area.
Well,
one
thing:
that's
really
kind
of
neat
and
and
to
share
with
you
all
we'll
see
what
the
the
resolution
is
going
to
be
with
it.
C
But
two
of
our
medics
went
down
on
a
hoist
to
rescue
some
folks,
and
this
was
a
situation
in
which
the
water
was
still
rising.
At
one
junction
folks
were
actually
trapped
inside
their
house
that
they
weren't
up
on
the
roof.
They
couldn't
get
up
onto
the
roof,
the
water
literally
rising
around
them-
and
you
know
they
were
just
kind
of
waving
their
hands
and
arms
from
from
the
windows
inside.
So
that's
how
we
knew
they
were
there.
C
Our
guys
went
down,
landed
onto
the
roof
and
oh
by
the
way,
this
is
a
steep
slick,
roof
and
rushing
water
going
by
rising
up
to
the
roof
level.
The
life
of
the
folks
inside
were
being
threatened,
the
lives
of
our
folks,
because
one
of
the
guys,
you
know
they
came
from
two
different
helicopters,
so
the
helicopters
can
only
get
so
close
before
they
become
a
a
hazard
to
one
another.
C
So
one
of
the
guys
actually
detached
himself
from
his
hoist
line
his
if
you
will
his
lifeline
but
was
just
kind
of
free
handing
it
there
on
the
slick,
wet
steep
roof
and
waited
for
the
other
guy
to
get
lowered
and
they
snapped
link
themselves
together.
C
So
at
least
he
had
some
level
of
security
that
they
actually
had
to
break
through
the
the
roof
for
this
particular
home
and
and
through
that
opening
they
were
able
to
extract
the
folks,
obviously
get
them
hoisted
up
to
a
position
of
safety,
and
if
I
didn't
emphasize
it
well
enough
already,
it
wasn't
just
the
folks
who
were
trapped
inside
their
house
because
of
the
the
rising
water
around
it.
It
was
our
medics
who
also
had
their
lives
at
risk
because
of
the
rising
water
around
it.
C
So
what
I'm
getting
to
is
we've
submitted
each
one
of
these
folks
for,
what's
known
as
a
distinguished
flying
cross,
and
if
any
of
you
are
familiar
with
that
or
if
you're
not
familiar
with
it,
it
next
to
a
silver
star
or
a
dsc,
let
alone
the
medal
of
honor.
It's
about
the
highest
award
that
the
military
has
for
heroism,
and
it's
not
just
in
a
combative
environment.
C
C
Our
guardsmen
who've
ever
been
submitted
for
a
distinguished
flying
cross,
so
so
that
gets
initiated
at
our
level.
It
gets
approved
at
the
the
national
level.
So
so
I
won't
give
you
any
sort
of
a
timeline
for
what
that
approval
may
be,
but
I
think
it's
really
terrific
that
we're
able
to
recognize
a
couple
of
our
folks
along
those
lines
and
the
the
folks
who
will
be
the
approving
authority
for
it
have
already
been
alerted
to
it.
C
So
they
know
to
receive
it
at
this
junction,
but
but
anyways
that
was,
that
was
still
phase
one.
That
was
the
search
and
rescue
part
of
it.
And
let
me
digress
for
for
a
moment.
If
any
of
you
all
have
any
questions,
while
I'm
speaking,
you
know
don't
feel
like
you
have
to
wait
till
the
end.
Just
go
ahead
and
ask
me,
then
I'm
sure
that
everyone
here
is
much
more
mentally
alert
than
I.
C
But
I
tend
to
forget
things
if
I
talk
on
so
that's
where
I
invite
anybody
to
just
raise
your
hand
as
we
went
into
the
next
phase
and
as
the
name
itself
is
search
and
recovery
mode,
so
there's
been
a
transition
at
that
junction.
But
one
of
the
neat
things
that
I
wanted
to
get
to-
and
some
of
you
all
may
have
been
aware
of
this
as
well.
C
Okay,
so
cali
is
our
canine
search
and
rescue
search
and
recovery,
dog
she's
part
of
our
sts
or
our
special
tactics
squadron.
She
is
the
only
such
canine
in
the
entire
dod
that
there
is
no
other
search
and
rescue
search
and
recovery
dog
in
the
active
duty
forces
and
the
special
ops
forces
army
navy
air
force
marines.
C
There
is
just
one
and
now
actually
two
in
service,
and
they
are
also
both
of
them
are
part
of
your
kentucky
national
guard
and
that's
where
the
types
of
missions,
the
sts,
the
special
tactics,
squadron,
gets
involved
with,
and
this
gives
them
a
unique
capability,
because
she
was
actively
engaged
with
both
the
initial
rescue
efforts,
the
subsequent
recovery
efforts-
and
it
wasn't
just
a
response
right
now
to
the
other
flooding
in
eastern
kentucky.
C
She
was
also
a
crucial
part
early
on
with
the
recovery
missions
that
took
place
in
the
tornadoes
this
past
winter
in
western
kentucky,
and
so
again
I
emphasize
canine
callie,
not
only
because
of
her
uniqueness
inside
of
the
department
of
defense
but
kind
of
facetiously.
I
get
a
kick
out
of
it
for
the
first
couple
weeks
of
the
the
flooding
she
was
receiving
more
press
than
any
four-star
generals
out
there
that
I
know
of.
C
But
at
that
junction-
and
some
of
you
are
aware
so
so
we
went
through
the
initial
rescue
operations.
We
went
through
the
subsequent
recovery
operations
and
now-
and
it's
still
at
this
junction
at
this
point-
is
a
sustainment
dynamic
and
initially
that
was
very
much
guard
heavy
for
the
the
number
of
folks
that
we
had
engaged
with
it.
But
slowly
that
that's
tapered
off
over
time
into
the
sustainments,
referring
to
everything
from
food
to
water
distribution.
C
We
still
have
three
counties
that
we
have
a
presence
today
in
what
we're
involved
with
what
we
call
a
pod
or
a
point
of
distribution
for
the
distribution
of
the
supplies
that
are
out
there.
We're
also
working
with
local
volunteer
organizations
are
what
the
the
emergency
management
folks
refer
to
as
a
voad
volunteer
organizations
against
disaster,
and
this
is
everything
from
like
local
church
groups
or
local
boy
or
girl,
scouts
or
boy
or
girls
club,
let
alone
to
the
national
voluntary
types
of
organizations
and
towards
the
the
longer
end
of
the
the
sustainment
effort.
C
And
some
of
you
may
be
aware
of
this.
But
I
know
that
to
tomorrow,
emergency
management
is
hosting
a
long-term
recovery
program,
and
this
is
where
they're
bringing
into
together
organizations
such
as
fema,
who,
that's
more
so
in
their
lane
and
like
organizations
that'll
be
involved
with
fema,
and
this
is
to
assist
the
folks.
Who've
had
insurmountable
property
damage,
or
you
know,
can't
go
back
to
the
lifestyle
that
they
did
have
and,
and
it's
not
only
the
properties
that
have
been
damaged.
But,
as
some
of
you
all
are
aware
of
it
as
well.
C
In
a
lot
of
cases,
they
can't
even
go
back
to
their
jobs
because
the
businesses
where
their
their
jobs
were
are
no
longer
there.
So
that's
a
kind
of
a
double
impact
on
a
lot
of
the
folks.
Who've
been
impacted
at
this
junction
and
as
a
chairman,
thomas
and
I
were
speaking
a
little
bit
ago,
you
know
the
the
national
guard
we're
spread
out
all
over
the
state,
not
just
in
our
units
but
where
our
folks
live.
C
So
what
I'm
getting
to
is
of
all
the
the
folks
that
have
been
impacted
by
this
we've
had
37
of
our
own
guardsmen
who've,
been
impacted
and
into
the
case
it's
either
21
or
22
folks.
I
know
that
these
folks
know
that
their
property
was
damaged,
but
that
they
still
were
out
there
responding
as
a
a
guardsman
to
help
out
their
communities.
C
You
know
literally,
to
help
out
their
neighbors
in
the
response,
but
but
of
that
37,
it's
literally
from
an
extreme,
where
in
two
cases
that
I
know
of
that,
their
homes
have
been
completely
demolished,
blown
up
flooded
away
if
you
will
to
to
relatively
minor
damage.
But
the
neat
thing
is
that
there
are
resources
that
we're
able
to
call
upon,
uniquely
through
the
military,
to
enable
a
quick
resource
and
when
I
say
resource
in
this
case,
I'm
primarily
thinking
of
monetary
resources,
to
help
them
out
in
the
near
term.
C
C
This
is
or
two
lessons
learned
that
we
had
from
the
other
tornadoes
this
past
winter
number,
one
in
every
impacted
county
where
we
established
a
l,
o
or
liaison
officer,
and
we
sent,
for
example,
second
lieutenant
lamberton
out
and
that
lno
linked
up
not
only
with
the
county
emergency
manager,
but
the
county
judge
executive,
the
the
local
mayor
when
and
where
appropriate.
Just
quite
simply
the
the
local
leadership.
Because,
from
my
perspective-
and
I
think
it's
proven
itself
true-
it
gave
the
local
authorities-
you
know
their
own
guardsmen,
somebody
they
could
reach
out
to.
C
They
didn't
have
to
call
us
up
over
the
phone
or
send
in
a
any
type
of
email
or
text
through
their
local
emergency
manager,
for
some
type
of
request
for
assistance,
and
quite
simply,
this
may
sound
kind
of
trite
in
a
way.
But
I
think,
having
the
physical
presence
of
a
soldier
or
an
airman
right,
there
gave
the
local
leadership
as
kind
of
a
comforting
sense.
C
You
know
they
had
somebody
they
could
go
to
directly
to
at
least
they
could
push
their
issues
or
or
whatever
needs
that
they
might
have
through
our
folks
and
that
worked
off
terrifically
well
from
the
tornadoes
this
past
winter.
It
worked
out
terrific
terrifically
well
during
the
the
current
flooding,
and
we
still
have
folks
engaged
in
those
counties
where
we
have
that
presence
at
this
junction
and
really
that's
kind
of
you
see
some
pictures
here
of
some
of
the
sustainment
activities,
and
quite
simply
this,
this
may
sound
kind
of
tried.
C
You
may
have
heard
it
from
me
before
you
may
have
heard
it
from
other
folks.
You
may
have
heard
it
from
the
governor,
but
we'll
be
there
as
long
as
there's
a
need
for
us
to
be
there.
You
know,
there's
not
a
timeline,
there's
not
a
cut
off
date
for
any
sort
of
financial.
Resourcing
saying
that
this
is
the
the
guard's
last
day
as
long
as
there's
a
a
credible
mission
and
we're
the
folks
to
meet
that
we'll
be
there.
C
So,
with
that
chairman,
thomas
I'll,
open
up
to
any
questions
you,
you
or
any
of
your
folks
may
have
in
regards
to
our
response
to
the
flooding.
A
B
Thank
you
and
general
lamberton
and
general
adams
or
general
jones.
Excuse
me
and
corian.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here
and
thank
you
for
all
that
you
do
and
and
yes
I
I
speak
for
many
of
them
say
we're
proud
of
our
kentucky
national
guard
general.
I
I
really
do
appreciate
you
mentioning
second
lieutenants.
They
don't
get
much
recognition
very
often
in
the
press.
So
I'm
excited
to
hear
that
you
mentioned
that
they're
kind
of
like
freshman
legislators.
They
kind
of
get
often
get
overlooked.
So
we
thank
you
for
that.
B
Okay,
well
I
just
you
know,
everybody
starts
somewhere
and
second
lieutenant,
so
you
know
well
won't
go
there,
but
anyway,
thank
you
for
for
all
that,
you
do
and-
and
you
know
it's
often
said
you
can't
serve
two
masters,
but
you
do
that
very
well
with
your
president,
united
states,
as
your
commander-in-chief,
and
also
you
have
a
dual
role
with
the
governor
of
kentucky
being
commander
chief
when
you're
called
into
to
like
our
western
kentucky
and
eastern
kentucky
emergency
situations,
and
and
I'm
you
didn't
mention
it,
but
I'm
sure
that
also
under
your
your
the
role
of
being
a
national
organization
under
the
the
president,
you
have
troops
deployed
across
the
country
and
around
the
world,
and-
and
I
appreciate
that
mission
too
and,
like
I
said,
we're
very
proud
of
you,
so
I
do
want
to
mention
corian
too,
with
she's,
very
accessible
and
and
always
willing
to
help,
and
thank
you
corian
for
for
your
work
and,
like
I
said,
certainly
appreciate
it.
C
Sir,
I
appreciate
that
and
in
a
little
bit
I
am
going
to
get
and
address
the
folks
that
we
do
have
currently
engaged
with
other
activities
outside
of
the
continental
u.s.
A
Great,
we
have
another
question
or
comment
by
representative
wesley.
D
My
name
is
representative
wesley
and
before
the
redistricting
took
place,
I
was
over
brethren
owsley
and
lee
county
esto
county
a
little
bit
of
madison
and
about
16
months
ago
we
we
went
through
a
flooding
and
the
national
guard
was
phenomenal
there
and
this
time,
and-
and
I
know
that
all
of
us
is
seen
on
the
news
and
facebook
and
pictures
the
pictures
does
not,
or
the
videos
really
compare
to
what
what
has
really
happened
over
there
and
to
give
a
shout
out
to
all
our
national
guard,
my
ema
from
brethren
county
chris
fraley.
D
He
just
gave
me
a
number,
an
estimate
of
how
many
was
saved
off
the
just
the
roofs
by
the
helicopters
and
fish
and
wildlife.
D
He
said
between
86
and
100,
and
to
see
these
people
at
work
in
in
brethren
county
alone,
where
I
was
at
just
was
a
mind,
blower
and-
and
I
appreciate
everything
you
guys
done
for
us
and
what
you
do.
So
that's
that's
all
I
had,
mr
chairman.
Thank
you.
A
All
right,
we
have
another
comment
by
senator
meredith.
D
Commenting
a
couple
of
questions,
mr
sheriff,
I
could
thank
you
for
presentation
this
morning
here
it's
it's
kind
of
sobering
to
sit
here
and
listen
to
everything
that
you
folks
have
experienced,
not
just
during
the
eastern
kentucky
flood,
but
western
kentucky
tornadoes.
I
don't
think
anybody
ever
envisioned
that
in
less
than
a
year's
time
you'd
be
facing
to
these
natural
disasters
and
the
response
is
incredible.
D
It
reminds
me
a
little
bit
of
the
situation
with
the
coven
19.
I
think
one
of
the
things
we
learned
from
that
was
importance
of
our
county
health
departments.
We
kind
of
taken
them
for
granted
and
I
think
it's
maybe
the
same
situation
with
our
national
guard.
You
guys
have
always
had
tremendous
respect,
I
think
from
our
citizens,
but
I
mean,
I
think,
maybe
we
take
it
for
granted
until
we
have
to
call
upon
your
services
and
you
always
react
and
and
you're
always
there
when
we
need.
D
C
Sure,
sir,
thank
you.
I
greatly
appreciate
you
sort
of
opening
the
door
on
that
enabling
me
to
to
share
my
thoughts
so
for
the
drain
on
the
the
resources-
and
some
of
you
all
may
be
tracking,
I'm
thinking
back
immediately
to
about
15
16
years
ago,
when
a
lot
of
the
overseas
deployments
that
we
went
through,
that
they
were
spiking
and
not
just
the
kentucky
guard,
but
the
whole
national
guard
nation.
C
If
you
will
had
thousands
and
thousands
of
service
members
deployed
to
typically
kuwait
or
iraq
or
afghanistan,
and
a
similar
mindset
came
up
there,
you
know.
Are
we
over
taxing
to
the
guard?
Do
we
have
so
many
folks
deployed
that
it's
creating
a
strain
on
the
organization
or
it's
not
enabling
back
at
the
state
level
us
to
to
respond
to
any
type
of
incidental
circumstance.
C
So
to
having
put
that
framework
to
it
and
answering
your
question
senator
that,
first
of
all,
quite
flat
out,
I
say
no,
there
is
not
a
strain
on
us
that
there
is
not
a
fatigue
factor
that
we've
hit
at
this
junction
and
I'll
qualify
that
so,
like
senator
higdon
alluded
to
a
little
bit
ago,
we've
got
soldiers
who
are
currently
deployed
overseas.
We've
got
soldiers
who
are
deployed
to
the
southwest
border.
C
It's
not
overly
tapped
any
of
our
units
to
enable
that
response
and
what
I
wanted
to
get
to
as
well,
and
some
of
you
may
have
heard
of
it
before
in
the
the
guard
world.
What
we've
got,
what
we
call
a
emac
emac,
an
emergency
management
assistance,
compact
and
so
like
for
for
all
of
us
in
the
southeastern
quadrant
of
the
the
country-
and
some
of
you
all
may
know
this
better
than
I
we
have
more
natural
disasters
than
virtually
any
other
part
of
the
geographic
world.
C
If
they
have
a
situation
there
and
we've
got
the
assets
and
we
I
once
a
year
identify
what
assets
are
available.
You
know,
meaning
what
assets
are
are
not
deployed
overseas.
What
assets
are
not
going
through
some
sort
of
modification,
but
we
can
offer
them
up
in
a
fairly
24
hour
short
notice,
if
necessary,
so
the
the
assets
that
we've
got
in
the
kentucky
national
guard.
C
It's
not
just
reflective
of
what
our
force
structure
is,
but
it's
also
reflective
of
all
the
other
states
around
us
that
may
go
a
little
further,
that
than
you
you're
thinking
and
asking
about
over
taxing
the
other
resources
or
a
fatigue
factor.
C
But
again,
I
digress
to
the
high
point
of
the
deployments
15
years
ago
that
the
national
guard
never
got
over
taxed
and
it's
because
of
the
sharing
of
the
assets
and,
as
you
all
might
expect-
and
you've
probably
heard
me
say
this
before
I'm
biased
to
the
guard
and
the
kentucky
national
guard
in
particular.
C
But
such
a
immediate
first
responder
type
of
sharing
arrangement
is
not
prevalent
in
any
one
of
the
active
duty
components.
It's
not
prevalent
in
any
of
the
other
reserve
components,
and
it's
because,
as
as
you
all
alluded
to
where
we
serve
the
two
masters,
both
the
the
federal
government
and
the
state
government.
But
we
have
that
type
of
flexibility
to
respond
in
each
one.
We've
got
the
resources
aligned
well
beyond
just
the
kentucky
national
guard
that
will
readily
and
as
exampled
by
again,
tennessee
and
and
west
virginia
will
come
to
our
aid.
D
How
many
service
members
do
you
have
in
the
kentucky
national
guard.
C
I'm
going
to
answer
you
senator,
but
I'm
going
to
qualify
that
so
so
we've
got
soldiers,
which
is
the
army
national
guard.
We've
got
airmen,
which
is
the
air
national
guard
plus
through
dma,
which
is
inclusive
of
emergency
management,
our
facilities
management,
administrative
budgetary
factors,
we've
got
about
600
employees,
so
all
that
total
we've
got
about
8,
400
folks,
2400.
Yes,
sir.
D
C
Sure,
and-
and
you've
probably
heard
this,
and
perhaps
most
everybody
in
the
room
that
I
believe
across
all
the
services,
all
the
components.
C
You
know-
army,
navy,
air
force,
marines,
the
active
duty,
guys,
the
national
guard,
the
the
reserve
of
each
one
of
the
elements,
frequently
hearing
that
folks
are
saying
that
they're
not
going
to
make
their
recruiting
mission
and
from
what
I've
read.
Is
that
across
all
of
those
services
and
components?
C
This
is
the
first
time
that
they're
having
these
conversations,
I
want
to
say
since,
like
1973-
and
that
was
roughly-
let's
see
not
too
many
folks
here-
have
as
much
as
gray
hair
as
I
do,
but
that
was
roughly
when
the
the
army
started
its
volar
our
voluntary
army
program.
It
was
moving
away
from
the
draft
that
we
heard
of
several
decades
ago,
and
that
was
part
of
the
dynamic
at
this
junction.
C
I
believe
that,
based
on
what
I've
read
that
the
active
duty
folks
are
not
going
to
make
their
recruiting
mission
all
branches,
the
reserves
are
similarly
challenged
and
that
the
guard-
and
you
may
have
some
of
you
may
have
heard
me-
speak
of
54
states
and
territories.
C
A
difference
for
us
relative
to
our
active
duty,
brothers
and
sisters
is
that
we've
got
to
recruit
our
own.
You
know
the
guys
down
at
campbell
the
the
guys
at
fort
bragg.
They
don't
recruit
their
own
soldiers.
We
have
to
recruit
our
own
here
in
the
guard.
So
what
I'm
getting
to?
It
varies
a
little
bit
here
in
the
kentucky
guards.
I
think
it's
going
to
be
close
to
be
straightforward.
With
you,
the
end
of
our
recruiting
year
is
30
september.
C
I
I
can
give
you
a
phone
call
on
one
october,
where
we
actually
have
fallen
out,
but
what
I'm
getting
to
is
not
to
put
you
off
in
any
way
but
say
it
is
going
to
be
that
close,
because
on
the
flip
side,
it's
kind
of
unique
to
us
and
it
wasn't
necessarily
because
of
the
recruiting
dynamics
for
the
the
generation
that
we
all
recruit
from
and
I'll
address
that
in
a
moment.
C
But
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago.
You
know
we
were
all
learning
to
deal
with
this
thing
called
coronavirus
and
finding
other
ways
and
and
other
ways
to
do
business
and
for
our
recruiters.
It
meant
other
ways
to
recruit.
So
so
our
recruiters
across
the
the
entire
state,
the
national
guard,
recruiters
we've
got
here
in
the
state
that
they
shifted
their
efforts
because
a
lot
of
high
schools
weren't
having
in
school
sessions.
C
But
we
shifted
an
effort
to
have
a
greater
presence
for
our
on-campus
college
collegiate
recruiting.
And
by
virtue
of
that,
I
think
we've
been
able
to
get
greater
numbers
of
enlistments
see.
We've
got
a
presence
on
seven
colleges,
universities
here
in
kentucky
a
full-time
presence
and
by
virtue
of
that
we've
enlisted
more
from
the
collegiate
ranks.
Folks
who
come
in
you
know
for
some
aspect
of
college
funding
or
to
to
be
of
service.
C
But
but
again
it's
going
to
be
close
and
that
that's
why
I
say
I'll
give
you
the
phone
call
on
one
october
share
with
me
your
phone
number,
and
we
can
do
so
now
to
the
the
greater
recruiting
environment
and
some
of
you
all
may
have
heard
it's
the
of
of
the
the
pool
of
folks
that
the
military
all
of
dod
aspires
to
enlist
all
services,
all
components
of
all
services
that
the
national
guard
included
when
you
filter
out
that
group
of
late
teenagers
into
the
just
about
30,
or
so
that
you
filter
out
folks
for
criminal
violations,
felonies
for
drug
abuse,
for
issues
of
quite
simply
not
having
a
high
school
degree
for
issues
of
being
overweight.
C
C
So
if
you
will
of
that
entire
pool
of
potential
applicants
18
to
30.,
only
9
of
them
is
really
the
the
pool
that
we're
effectively
dealing
with.
So
it
is
a
changing
dynamic.
You
know
the
on
the
positive
side
for
economic
considerations.
C
You
know
all
of
us
see
it
that
the
unemployment
rate
is
really
low,
and
so
that's
not
necessarily
conducive
to
the
folks
joining
into
the
military
either.
So
there
are
a
number
of
factors
that
do
weigh
into
it,
and-
and
this
is
how
lamberton's
impression
it's
not
general
lamberton
or
anybody
who's.
My
boss.
C
But
I
think
quite
simply
the
the
majority
of
folks
in
our
country.
Don't
even
think
about
the
military.
I
mean
some
of
you,
you,
gentlemen,
you
served
in
uniform,
but
you
know
that
puts
you
in
the
minority.
C
You
know
today,
in
our
current
dynamic
or
demographic
for
the
country,
less
than
one
percent
of
the
the
entire
population
is
currently
in
uniform.
That's
the
active
duty!
Folks,
that's
the
guard.
That's
the
the
reserve
components
across
the
different
services.
C
We've
got
330
million
people,
so
one
percent
of
that
less
than
one
percent
actually
has
direct
engagement
with
the
military
or
the
families
have
direct
knowledge
of
it.
So
easily
99
of
the
entire
country
has
no
direct
knowledge
of
the
military,
and
so
what
they
know
of
the
military
is
you
know
what
they
see
off
of
a
a
tv
show
or
a
war
movie
or
or
I've
got
my
grandfather's
war
stories
from
vietnam
or
something
like
that.
C
D
That
is
a
significant
challenge.
You've
certainly
done
a
great
job
and
put
in
perspective.
Has
the
code
vaccine
mandate
had
a
significant
impact
on
recruitment
and
retention.
C
Our
current
fully
vaccinated
rate
is
about
87
percent
and,
as
some
of
you
all
know,
that
that's
higher
than
the
majority
of
our
other
national
guard
states
it's
higher
than
the
number
of
folks
we've
got
here
in
the
the
commonwealth
who
are
vaccinated,
but
you
know
that
it's
still
less
than
the
desire
to
100
percent
and
we've
got
folks
and
in
the
military.
Some
of
you
are
probably
aware
of
this
folks
who
are
just
outright
resistant.
C
Those
are
granted
for
temporary
medical
situations,
and
you
know,
for
example,
like
the
first
situation,
I
became
aware
of
a
a
soldier,
apparently
gotten
a
tick
that
transferred
lyme
disease
to
him,
so
so
this
guy
specifically
already
had
a
weakened
immuno
system
and
so
to
enter
a
vaccination
into
his
system.
That
could
create
some
sort
of
a
conflict.
Just
simply
didn't
make
medical
sense.
C
So
there
are
temporary
medical
exemptions,
got
no
issues
with
those
being
granted
for
folks,
I
do
not
foresee
a
permanent
and
hal
amerton
speaking,
not
dr
lamberton.
I
do
not
foresee
a
permanent
medical
exemption,
because
if
somebody
has
unchanging
medical
affliction
well,
in
spite
of
their
intention,
they
probably
shouldn't
be
in
military
service
period.
C
The
the
other
aspect
is
the
religious
exception
to
policy,
and
we
we've
got
a
on
the
army
guard
side.
We've
got
197
folks,
who've
read
through
that
on
the
air
guard
side.
We've
got
36
folks,
and
I
know
because
I
read
through
every
packet
and
myself
just
to
just
to
be
able
to
say
that
I
read
through
every
packet,
and
so
I
know
what
these
folks
are
claiming
is
their
issues
and
overwhelming
majority
of
these
folks.
The
the
issue
is
with
the
vaccination
itself.
C
You
know
is
because
some
of
you
are
probably
aware
they're
saying
well
the
the
various
vaccinations,
regardless
of
which
company
produced
it
originated
with
fetal
material,
and
that
for
that
particular
individual
is
a
moral
issue
that
they
can't
or
won't
overcome
for
all
the
the
etp
submissions
that
I
read
through.
You
know,
I'm
I'm
not
querying
or
questioning
the
the
person's
sincerity
of
their
religious
beliefs,
I'll
leave
that
to
the
chaplains
or
or
the
ministers
who
review
those
packets
that
well
and
that's
done
up
at
the
the
national
level.
C
From
my
perspective,
it's
really
not
a
religious
issue,
it's
a
medical
readiness
issue,
and
so
I'm
quite
simply
sticking
with
that.
You
know
if,
as
I
mentioned
a
little
bit
ago,
we've
got
soldiers
and
airmen
who
are
currently
deployed.
We've
got
other
deployments
that
are
on
horizon.
C
C
I
checked
it
out
just
a
couple
of
days
ago
in
world
war,
one
and-
and
a
lot
of
us
are
aware
of
the
spanish
flu,
and
you
know
there
have
been
a
number
of
corollaries
between
the
spanish
flu
then,
and
I
responded
to
the
coronavirus
now,
but
for
all
of
the
soldiers
who
the
u.s
soldiers
who
deployed
as
part
of
the
the
aef,
the
american
expeditionary
forces,
340
000
soldiers
were
hospitalized
somewhere
over
in
europe,
mostly
france,
because
of
the
spanish
flu
at
the
and
that's
a
total
cumulative
number
for
for
our
presence
over
there.
C
The
total
number
of
soldiers
who
are
hospitalized
with
any
sort
of
combative
injury
was
255
000.,
so
significantly,
smaller
number
had
had
hospitalizations
were
taken
away
from
the
the
the
fighting
the
the
battles
that
were
actually
right
in
front
of
there,
then
the
number
who
had
to
be
pulled
back
because
of
the
spanish
flu.
C
So
you
know
that
has
a
huge
operational
impact
and
thus
again
my
perspective,
where
it's
not
questioning
somebody's
sincerity
for
their
religious
beliefs,
and
you
know
into
the
military.
We
generally
want
folks
who
are
very
much
have
strong
convictions
for
military
service
or
you
know,
simply
being
a
good
citizen
being
part
of
an
organization.
C
That's
the
type
of
person
that
I
want
beside
me,
but
in
some
cases
that
and
military
service
may
simply
not
be
compatible,
but
towards
that
end
and
one
final
thing
as
a
wrap
up
about
it
to
share
with
you,
some
of
you
may
be
aware
of
that.
The
latest
vaccination
that's
come
out
addressing
the
coronavirus
novovax.
C
But,
but
I'm
really
curious
to
see
what
sort
of
an
impact
that's
going
to
have
on
the
decision-making
for
a
lot
of
these
people.
You
know:
were
they
really
just
focused
on
the
fetal
material
and
ignoring
it
because
of
that?
Or
will
they
be
more
receptive
for
this
other
vaccination?
That's
now
available.
A
Right
represent
a
little
tight
on
time.
Are
you
going
in
a
bit
at
ten
o'clock?
No
you're,
not
okay,
go
ahead
and
proceed
then.
Okay,
thank
you.
D
And
and
general
appreciate
your
your
service
and
you
know
normally,
I
don't
wanna,
try
to
tell
you
how
to
do
your
job
or
whatever.
Let
me
say,
I'm
someone
who
is
fully
vaxxed
and
and
boosted,
so
you
know,
but
I
think
that
you
know
part
of
the
problem
that
we're
seeing
is
so
much
of
what
we
were
told
we're
now
finding
out.
D
What's
not
true,
and
I
mean
even
now,
the
cdc
is
coming
out
admitting
some
of
their
shortcomings
as
far
as
the
what
they
told
us,
you
know,
certainly
I
understand
your
example
of
you
know,
maybe
sending
someone
who
wasn't
vaccinated,
but
now
we're
finding
out
that
that
vaccinated
people
will
spread
the
virus
too,
and
so
I
I
think
that
the
problem
that
we
that
we
have
is
that
so
much
of
what
we
were
told
wasn't
true.
D
So
much
of
what
we
we're
told
was
because
of
a
political
bias
or
basis
or
trying
to
actually
force
people
to
do
what
someone
thought
that
they
should
do,
and
I
just
hope
that
going
forward,
we
will
realize
that
you
know
everything
that
we
hear
from
the
folks
that
are
in
charge.
Certainly
is
not
not
accurate,
and,
and
should
we
really
be
forcing
people
to
do
something
when
it's
not
based
on
science
or
it's
one
person's
science.
D
C
Yeah,
yes,
sir,
so
I
I
will
respond
to
that,
but
you
know
I
agree
with
you
completely
you're
right
on
the
mark.
You
know
that
to
the
world,
as
we
know
it
today,
it's
not
going
to
be
the
world
that
we
know
24
hours
from
now,
let
alone
five
10
15
years
from
now.
So
so
the
military
is
a
learning
organization.
C
So,
ideally
we
learn.
We
improve,
we
become
more
efficient.
We
become
more
effective
with
every
bit
of
a
gathered
knowledge
that
comes
to
us.
At
the
same
time,
you
know
that
the
coronavirus
kicked
off
in
our
states
in
what
I
think
february
of
2020.
C
We
were
deploying
guardsmen
overseas,
then
we're
deploying
we've
been
deploying
guardsmen
overseas
ever
since
then.
So
you
know,
we've
got
to
take
what
we
know
what
the
time,
because
we
still
have
the
military,
the
security,
the
responsibilities
of
sending
our
soldiers
and
airmen
out.
So
I'll
have
to
go
with
what
I
know
at
that
point
and
pull
the
trigger
on
launching
those
folks,
just
as
all
of
us
have
to
sometimes
make
decisions
based
on
what
we
know
at
the
time
and
contingent
upon
being
a
learning
organization
where
we
adjust
that
as
we
move
forward.
A
All
right
right
at
10
o'clock,
we're
running
just
a
few
minutes
behind
that
was
a
great
segue.
You
passed
it
right
back
to
me
that
we're
a
learning
organization,
which
means
that
we
have
an
invitation
to
go
over
to
the
national
guard
armory.
I
think
we're
going
to
catch
up
with
general
lamberton
in
a
little
bit
and
at
this
point,
if
lieutenant
harvey,
if
lieutenant
colonel
harvey,
if
you
would
stand
up,
this
gentleman
is
going
to
try
to
get
us.
A
This
is
only
open
for
legislators
and
centers,
and
and
but
we
are
we're
going
to
be
loading
a
bus
as
we
can
make
our
way
down.
There
don't
go
back
to
your
office
because
you
get
stuck
there,
so,
let's
make
it
over
there,
I'm
assuming
that
we'll
have
the
bus
coming
back
to
the
same
one.
A
So
we
can
leave
our
coats
and
ties
and
get
a
little
more
comfortable
on
the
bus
and
that
way
they'll
be,
but
lieutenant
colonel
harvey
is
going
to
be
our
best
captain
kind
of
show
us
around
a
little
bit
over
there.
This
gives
us
a
chance
to
go.
Thank
those
these
men
and
women.
They've
done
a
lot
of
work
to
set
this
tour
up
for
us.
So
so
please,
if
you
can
please
attend.
A
I
think
a
lot
of
people
have
rsvp'd,
but
if
you
haven't
come
see
me
or
corian
and
and
we'll
try
to
get
you
in
there,
but
the
buses
are
going
to
be
loading
right
beside
the
rose
garden,
kevin
you're,
familiar
with
all
that
there,
so
he
he
checks
the
roses
every
now
and
then.
C
A
Beautiful
pictures
of
him,
but
so
we're
going
to
be
loading
up
and
we'll
have
you
back
by
noon.
Gentlemen.
Thank
you
all.
So
much
and
ladies,
we
appreciate
your
testimony.
We
never
made
it
to
a
quorum,
we're
going
to
hold
off
on
minutes
until
next
meeting
and
if
there's
no
further
business,
we
stand
adjourned.