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E
A
Here,
thank
you.
We're
going
to
start
with
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance
and
Senator
nanine's
going
to
lead
us.
F
F
We
can't
thank
you
enough
for
the
blessings
you
have
bestowed
upon
us
and
though,
even
though
we
know
they're
not
deserved,
we
ask
their
Lord
that
you
lead
us
today
guide
us
in
all
that
we
do
so.
We
can
do
your
will
and
we
ask
as
a
legislature
that
you
practice
the
wisdom,
the
guidance
direction
to
make
the
best
decisions
for
the
constituents
that
that
we
represent
as
a
nation.
F
A
All
right,
thank
you
now
entertain
a
motion
for
approval
of
the
minutes.
I
haven't
got
a
motion
by
Senator
Wilson
second,
bye
macaroni
is
that
it
all
right
all
approved,
say
aye
any
opposed.
Likewise,
all
right
minutes
approved
we're
going
to
start
with
our
distinguished
veteran
and
Senator
Deneen.
You
want
to
go
down
there.
You're
going
to
stay
up
here.
G
I
can
sit
up
there
at
the
table.
I
guess
if
that'd
be
good,
bring
them
up
with
me.
A
While
he's
doing
this
representative
bratcher,
can
you
tell
us
about
the
process
of
the
coins.
H
Yes,
sir,
thank
you
chair.
We
are
in
the
process
of
ordering
some
challenge.
Coins
committee
challenge
coins.
So,
if
you're
interested
in
ordering
some-
please
let
me
know
how
many
you
want
they're
going
to
be
about
somewhere
between
the
range
of
six
dollars,
or
so
maybe
less
or
more,
depending
on
how
many
we
order.
So
just
see
me
after
this
or
send
me
an
email,
so
I'll
get
you
on
the
list.
Thank
you.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
representative,
Bradshaw,
Senator
Denny.
It's
all
yours.
G
Thank
you
Mr,
chair
and
committee
members.
I
would
like
to
introduce
a
special
guest.
That's
in
the
audience
as
well
with
me
today.
Gail
rice,
loveason
she's,
a
long
time,
employee
of
DOD
and
she's
moved
back
into
my
district
into
our
hometown.
So
I'd
like
to
welcome
her
back
here
in
the
back.
G
Our
distinguished
veterans
today
brought
two
individuals.
We
normally
hear
so
much
about
our
military
members
service,
while
in
the
military
some
of
their
distinguished
accomplishments
battles,
they
fought
in
the
things
that
they
have
done,
while
in
service
I
brought
two
individuals
that
not
only
do
have
great
distinguished
careers
of
20
plus
years
a
piece,
but
these
individuals,
I
I,
really
think
exemplify
what
our
veterans
are
all
about,
and
that
is
the
service
to
others.
G
They
have
continued
to
serve
their
communities
after
retiring
from
the
military.
The
first
individual
I
like
to
introduce
to
the
committee
today
his
Sergeant
First
Class
Doug
Frederick
Doug,
has
been
a
long
time
volunteer
throughout
the
community
in
Elizabethtown
he's
very
well
known.
He
has
served
over
20
years
in
the
U.S
army.
G
He
has
continued
to
help
others
by
helping
those
that
were
displaced
during
Hurricane
Katrina
and
helping
them
move
to
Kentucky.
He
continues
to
work
with
non-profit
organizations
throughout
the
community.
He
works
with
our
Parks
and
Recreation
Department.
Making
sure
all
of
our
city
parks
are
are
the
best
that
they
can
be.
G
G
G
One
of
the
things
that
stood
out
to
during
his
military
career
was
not
only
the
fact
that
he
served
in
Vietnam
as
a
combat
veteran,
but
before
going
to
Vietnam
he
enrolled
in
the
U.S
army.
At
a
time
when
our
country
was
dealing
with
a
lot
of
civil
unrest,
the
civil
rights
movement
of
the
60s,
one
of
the
things
that
kind
of
stood
out
was
that
he
was
called
upon
to
escort
James
Meredith,
the
first
African-American
to
ever
attend
the
University
of
Mississippi
to
its
classes.
G
G
During
that
time,
as
an
Master
Craftsman,
he
built
several
training
apparatuses
for
our
soldiers
that
were
in
basic
training
in
the
armored
divisions.
His
model,
his
wood
shop
and
his
wood
skills
also
attracted
the
attention
of
Hollywood.
G
Many
of
you
may
be
familiar
with
the
James
Bond
movie
Goldfinger,
my
dad's
exhibit
model
of
the
gold.
Vault
is
highlighted
in
that
movie
he's
also
starred
in
several
episodes
of
Hawaii
Five-O
I,
don't
know.
Some
of
you
are
old
enough
to
remember
that
he
was
called
upon
to
do
some
of
that
as
well.
G
So
as
a
young
child
I
got
to
see
a
lot
of
different
things
from
my
father.
Some
of
the
things
I'm
most
proud
of
are
the
things
that
he
did
after
the
military
he
served
as
a
in
the
Masonic
Lodge.
He
rose
through
the
ranks
there
to
become
eventually
into
the
Shrine
Club
where
he
rose
through
the
ranks
to
be
president
there,
where
he
raised
millions
of
dollars
for
Kosair's,
Charities
and
children's
surgeries,
helping
hundreds.
A
Thank
you,
gentlemen.
We
really
appreciate
your
service
and
and
your
dedication
even
after
and
Mr
Dineen,
we
know
that
you
you're,
probably
one
of
your
hardest
jobs,
is
sitting
standing
right
next
to
you
on
the
left.
So
we
appreciate
you
doing
all
that
and
preparing
you
for
this
undertaking.
So
thank
you.
A
While
they're
making
their
way
we're
going
to
go
first
we're
going
to
go
the
hyperbaric
oxygen
therapy
for
veterans.
Would
you
all
come
forward
and
introduce
yourself.
I
There
we
go
Mr
chairman
Vice,
chairman
committee
members.
Thank
you
for
meeting
with
us
today.
My
name
is
Sir
Eric
coleta,
I'm
10-year
Air,
Force,
veteran
26-year
UPS,
Airlines,
startup
management,
team,
member
and
retiree
treat
now
National
legislative
chairman
and
co-founder,
and
president
of
hyperbaric
oxygen
therapy
for
Kentucky
vets.
I'm
honored.
To
have
next
to
me
is
you
want
to
introduce
your
go.
J
Ahead
yeah
sure
my
name
is
Jeff
Gantt
I'm,
a
former
Marine
and
retired
Air
Force
veteran
I'm,
one
of
the
benefactors
from
Mr
Cletus
program
here
and
once
he's
done
with
his
presentation.
I'll
just
give
my
my
testimony
on
how
it's
impacted
my
life.
I
Okay,
this
body
enacted
House
Bill
64
back
in
2018,
the
colonel
Ronald,
D,
Ray,
traumatic,
brain
injury
and
treatment
act
tooth.
My
brother-in-law,
Ron
was
no
longer
with
us.
Coming
to
his
Vietnam,
combat
invisible
wounds
in
July,
2020,
untreated
TBI
post-mortem
brain
analysis
confirmed
CTE
for
the
colonel.
I
We
distribute
a
24-page
report
on
economic
impact
of
TBI
PTSD
vets
in
Kentucky
to
the
speaker
of
their
house
in
late
June.
Your
members
should
have
received
this
and
it
contains
all
the
detailed
data
on
how
we
delivered
the
estimated
economic
484.4
million
annual
annual
income
income
impact
to
the
state.
We'll
cover
the
costs
in
Greater
detail
on
slide
1516.
We
are
asking
for
1.5
million
over
two
year
period
or
750
000
per
year,
with
an
average
cost
of
12
to
15
000
per
veteran.
I
The
2023
Kentucky
population
is
approximately
4.5
million
Federal
Medicaid
Medicare
funding
is
about
9
145
dollars
per
veteran
per
resident
fourth
highest
in
the
country.
Approximately
fifteen
thousand
CMS
State
funding
per
resident
TBI
veterans
return
to
work.
It's
approximately
50
percent
return
on
your
investment,
twelve
and
a
half
thousand
versus
twenty
five
thousand
in
the
first
year.
I
I
I
I
I
Zoloft
and
Paxil
are
the
only
two
FDA
approved
drugs
approved
for
PTSD.
There
are
zero
zero
drugs
approved
by
the
FDA
for
TBI
vets,
847,
847
million
opioid
pills
were
delivered
to
four
of
eight
cmops.
Those
are
Consolidated
male
outpatient
pharmacies,
where
80
percent
of
the
drugs
are
distributed
to
Veterans
outside
the
VA
created
679
000,
opioid
use
disorder,
vets,
that's
an
average
of
156
opioid
tablets
per
veteran
per
the
journal
of
clinical
Psychiatry
November
2011.
The
VA
spent
717
million
on
drugs
that
do
not
work.
I
2014
Oklahoma
was
the
first
state
to
legislate,
hyperbaric
oxygen
therapy
for
TBI
vets.
In
most
cases,
opioids
were
prescribed
to
treat
the
pain
experienced
by
vets
with
TBI
PTSD.
Nearly
all
the
antidepressants
carry
FDA
Black
Box
warnings,
urging
caution
and
17
to
24
year
olds
because
of
increased
risk
of
suicide.
I
K
My
name
is
Greg
I
was
an
army
chaplain
in
Afghanistan
from
2009
to
2010..
When
I
came
home,
it
was
a
challenge
to
adjust
back
to
America.
It
was
a
challenge
to
kind
of
live
in
everyday
life,
as
it
was.
I
was
struggling
with
a
traumatic
brain
injury.
I
lived
in
constant
pain,
headaches
every
day
was
taking.
You
know,
six
to
nine
Advil
a
day,
found
myself
suicidal
wrestling
and
ended
up
in
the
in
the
VA
and
ended
up
being
way
over
medicated
and
life
was
muddled
and
foggy.
K
I
was
struggling
to
figure
out
how
to
I
couldn't
think
anymore,
and
that
began
a
roller
coaster
of
trying
new
medications
going
off
medications
and
every
six
weeks
going
on
one
and
then
coming
off
of
them,
and
you
know
I
was
angry.
I
was
bitter,
I
found
myself
highly
anxious
and
it
was
affecting
every
layer
of
life
from
work
to
family,
and
you
know.
Finally,
a
friend
ended
up
recommending
that
I
I,
try,
hyperbaric
oxygen
treatment
and
to
be
completely
honest,
I
was
a
little
nervous
about
it.
K
I
was
very
skeptical
about
it,
but
it
worked.
You
know
and
I
didn't
notice
anything
right
away.
It
was
probably
five
Dives
in
before
I
began
to
to
notice
a
difference,
but
I
began
to
sleep
again
and
I
could
start
to
think
clearly
again.
I
could
see
colors
again
eventually,
I
ended
up
weaning
myself
off
of
all
of
my
medications
and
life's
just
gotten
better.
You
know
I
I'm,
no
longer
taking
Advil
every
day.
K
I
And
this
website
right
here
is
a
YouTube
website.
We
set
up
where
all
the
veteran
testimonies
on
there,
if
you
want
to
go
visit,
listen
to
some
of
those.
So
we
we
have
a
Vietnam
Medal
of
Honor
winner.
We
have
Brigadier
General,
Pat
Manny
out
of
Florida
highly
decorated
officers
and
listings
are
on
there
to
talking
about
their
stories,
including
Navy
Seals,.
K
I
Okay,
there
we
go
okay,
so
what
is
hyperbaric
oxygen
therapy
100
auction
delivered
under
pressure
at
1.5
atmosphere
is
equivalent
to
about
16
foot
underwater
that
delivers
on
average
700
to
1100
oxygen
to
the
bloodstream
veterans,
receive
on
average
40
treatments.
It's
one
hour
a
day.
They
go
into
a
hospital,
they
have
medical
staff
trained
certified,
they
can
sleep,
they
can
watch
TV,
it's
completely
non-invasive,
it's
a
low
pressure.
A
1.5
atmosphere
is
equivalent
to
an
airplane
at
35
000
feet
when
you're
flying
at
7.5
and
we're
at
1.5
pressure
differential.
I
So
it's
really
low
pressure.
They
go
through
safety
and
efficacy
validated
worldwide
for
over
two
decades
for
wound
healing.
We
have
four
facilities
we're
currently
working
with.
Today.
Three
of
them
are
in
Kentucky
ones,
right
across
the
river
in
Jeffersonville,
one
of
the
facilities
we're
working
with
is
uofl
Health.
They
currently
have
a
program
where
they
are
on
call
seven
by
twenty
four
for
EMS
police,
Navy,
Coast,
Guard
and
FBI
divers
to
put
them
in
the
chamber
if
they
need
it.
I
So
what
does
it
do?
The
picture
before
you
is
pre
and
post
hyperbaric
oxygen
therapy
took
a
blood
sample,
so
people
can
see
what
it
does
to
the
bloodstream.
The
picture
on
the
left
is
prior
to
going
into
the
chamber
a
blood
sample.
The
one
on
the
right
is
after
you
can
see
all
the
highly
oxygenated
blood-
that's
recurring
after
that
and
accelerates
tissue
and
wound
healing
so
irregardless,
whether
it's
in
the
brain.
I
I
I
I
2.2
million
diabetic
vets
in
the
VA
Health
Network,
94
percent
of
va
dfu
veterans
are
not
informed
or
provided
access
to
h-bot
that
heals
74
percent
of
dfus
and
eliminates
lower
limb
amputations,
thus
saving
lives.
The
VA
does
not
operate
a
single
hyperbaric
chamber
in
over
1100
facilities
around
the
country
and
they
don't
plan
on
doing
so.
We've
got
that
straight
from
the
under
secretary
health
of
the
VA
Dr
Steven
Lieberman.
I
So
what
does
a
healed?
Tbi
look
like,
so
this
is
a
severe
TBI.
Eighty
percent
of
the
vets
that
we
treat
are
mild.
This
is
a
severe
case
and
I
bring
this
forward,
so
you
can
actually
see
what
goes
on
it's
a
45
year
old
male
Soldier,
15
months
after
a
loss
of
consciousness,
he
had
two
tbis
from
a
mortar
attack
and
a
Humvee
explosion.
I
He
got
sent
back
to
Fort
Carson
Washington
and
he
didn't
have
his
medical
records.
They
diagnosed
them
with
conversion
disorder,
and
that
is
a
person
experiences
physical
and
sensory
problems
with
no
neurological
pathology.
He
went
down
to
Dr
Paul
harsh
in
Louisiana
who
reevaluated
him
found
out.
He
had
16
pieces
of
shrapnel
in
one
of
his
arms
and
he
had
a
severe
TBI.
I
So
part
of
the
Standard
Process
protocol
is
doing
some
type
of
diagnostic
pre-test
thing
and
then
post
testing,
so
they
did
a
spec
scan
and
that's
a
nuclear
3D
color
Imaging
of
the
brain
to
turn
what
kind
of
damage
he
has
prior
to
going
in
the
hyperbaric
treatment.
So
this
is
what
the
spec
scan
looks
like
it's
a
3D,
color
Imaging
and
you
can
see
it
looks
like
holes
in
the
brain
on
the
left
side.
That's
where
there's
lack
of
blood
flow
going
to
that
brain
and
then
on
the
right
side.
I
You're
shown
defuse
scalping,
which
is
also
a
lack
of
blood
flow
going
to
the
brain.
These
are
quotes
from
Dr
harsh.
The
brain
scans
are
the
most
revealing
and
shocking
that
I've
ever
seen
in
scanning
patients
for
34
years
and
thousands
of
scans.
You
never
see
a
global
reduction
in
blood
flow
to
an
entire
brain
hemisphere,
except
in
stroke,
and
even
then
it's
not
like
this.
The
psychiatrists
who
saw
Rusty
told
him
that
they
had
too
many
patients
Soldiers
with
tbis,
so
he
was
getting
a
diagnosis
of
conversion
disorder.
I
This
was
after
40,
h-spot
Dives.
So
that's
pre-h-bot,
that's
post
h-bot,
so
you
can
see
where
all
the
brain
tissue
has
begun
to
heal
up
after
highly
oxygenated
blood
flows
going
to
the
brain.
Since
2007
we've
had
20
clinical
IRB
trials,
completed
with
TBI
vets
being
treated
with
Hyperbaric
12
of
them.
12
of
those
clinical
trials
have
these
spec
scans
on
the
patient's
pre
and
post,
and
so
we've
had
over
730
patients.
Veterans
been
treated
with
this
in
clinical
setting
proving
efficacy
and
safety
of
the
treatment.
I
I
No
some
have
taken
60
Dives,
some
80
Brigadier
General
Pat,
Manny,
120
Dives
went
back
serving
on
the
bench
it's
now
serving
in
the
Florida
legislative
group,
but
the
40
dive
segment
has
been
The,
Sweet
Spot,
it's
been
the
average
where
we
see
the
most
prevalent
improvements,
and
one
of
the
biggest
improvements
we
see
is
complete.
Elimination
of
suicide,
ideation.
I
We've
treated
five
veterans
to
date,
only
limited
by
the
funding,
we've
self-funded,
the
first
thirty
thousand
dollars
and
then
the
veterans
trust
program
generated
another
8
000.
For
us
there
was
three
Army
one
Air
Force
One
Navy
SEAL
for
successful
treatments.
One
of
the
Vets
we
treated
was
a
Vietnam
veteran.
He
had
a
stroke
prior
to
coming
to
us
about
two
or
three
years
prior
he
got
in
the
chamber
and
after
three
Dives
he
stopped
coming.
He
said
I
couldn't
clear
my
ears,
so
we
had
to
remove
them
off
the
program.
I
Out
of
the
four
successful
two
are
back
to
work.
One
is
working
full
time
with
the
the
TSA
and
other
ones
working
full-time
on
his
farm,
the
484
million
dollar
societal
impact
cost
approximately
80
cents
is
comprised
of
unemployment
and
caregiver
costs.
Now,
who
would
ever
I
would
have
thought
just
the
opposite.
We
would
have
gotten
in
the
hospital
pharmaceutical
cost
and
so
forth.
But
it's
not
it's
caregiver
cost!
I
So
all
of
these
veterans
that
have
to
stay
at
home,
they're
struggling
with
all
of
these
mental
issues,
the
physical
issues
there's
a
caregiver
that
that
takes
care
of
them.
This
data
on
this
slide
came
from
the
Rand
report.
Rand
is
a
well-known
governmental
agency
in
Washington
provides
a
lot
of
statistical
analysis
reports
all
over
the
country:
5.5
million
American,
Service
military,
veteran,
caregivers,
14
billion
worth
of
voluntary
care,
mostly
spouses,
parents,
close
relatives,
37
percent
of
post-9
11
caregivers
are
30
years
old
or
younger,
resolving
long-term
financial
and
economic
impact.
I
A
little
over
forty
thousand
dollars,
average
cost
for
TBI
veteran
today
doing
nothing,
that's
what's
costing
the
state.
If
you
don't
multiply
that
times.
50
vets,
that's
2
million
economic
impact
per
year.
If
we
just
return,
50
percent
back
to
work,
a
potential
one
million
dollar
return
on
investment,
minus
the
750
000
for
the
treatments.
It's
a
250,
000,
positive
cash
flow
unemployed
veterans
about
32.7
million
a
year
right
now,
11
311,
unemployed,
vets.
That's
about
twenty
eight
hundred
dollars
per
vet
times.
Fifty!
That's
another
144
000
positive
cash
flow.
I
We
get
them
back
in
the
working
environment,
so
we
legislated
in
2018
got
House
Bill
64
passed
that
was
unanimous.
That's
now
217
930
942
2022.
We
passed
house
concurrent
resolution
40
urgent,
U.S,
Congress
members
from
the
state
of
the
Commonwealth
to
fund
treatments.
That's
gone
nowhere.
We
have
been
working
legislating.
We've
got
10
states
that
have
enacted
h-bot
legislation.
I
Six
of
those
have
funded
over
2.9
there's
additional
4.6
additional
pending
funding
and
I
just
found
out
last
night
Florida
has
passed
the
additional
5
million
in
treatment
funding
for
veterans
in
Florida.
We
do
have
bills
in
the
U.S
Congress.
They
have
nothing
in
there
for
funding
nothing.
I
So
we're
looking
for
support
for
for
the
state
here,
short
term
as
a
standard
care
treatment
for
our
veterans
that
have
returned.
I
We
need
help
in
the
U.S
Congress
reaching
out
for
our
Congressional
Delegation
to
help
fund
treatments
through
HCR
40
in
legislation.
That's
currently
in
the
works,
so
here's
Army
Brigadier
General,
Pat
Manny,
one
of
our
most
famous
survivors,
got
blown
up
in
Afghanistan
2005
20
months,
Walter,
Reed
hospital.
I
This
is
dated
it's
not
2014,
but
it's
two
minutes
long
and
I
think
you're
going
to
find
this
interesting.
I
L
Go
it
wasn't
going
to
I'm
not
going
to
ask
you
a
question
I'll
make
a
statement.
Then
I
have
a
question
but
I
tell
you
a
different
subject,
but
secretary
Penn,
you
know
it's
always
bothering
me
that
the
secretaries
before
you
you
come
before
us
with
the
fighting
team.
The
fighting
team
is
known
as
the
Navy
and
the
Marine
Corps,
and
yet
they
said
it
says:
Witnesses
The,
Honorable,
B.J
Penn,
acting
Secretary
of
the
Navy.
L
What
happened
to
the
team
now
I'm,
not
asking
you
that
question.
Let
me
get
to
the
point:
I'm
gonna
then
I'm.
Looking
at
in
2002
Marine
Corps
commandant
General
James
Jones
United
States
Naval
Institute
annual
meeting
April
4th
2002
question
legislation
has
been
introduced
to
rename
the
department
of
the
Navy.
What
is
your
view?
This
is
the
answer
from
the
commandant.
L
L
Well,
I'm
not
going
to
ask
the
CNO
I'm
not
going
to
ask
the
acting
secretary
I'm,
not
going
to
ask
the
commandant
I'm
not
going
to
put
anyone
on
the
spot,
but
I
will
tell
you
that
one
of
the
things
that
has
bothered
me
greatly
with
all
that's
been
done
by
the
fighting
team,
Navy
and
Marine
Corps,
that
when
a
marine
dies
and
the
secretary
of
the
Navy
sends
a
condolence
letter
to
the
wife
of
a
marine
who
gave
his
life
for
this
country.
L
It
is
time
that
the
department
of
Navy
and
Marine
Corps
become
one
fighting
team
and
I'm
pleased
to
tell
you
today
that
many
people
here
and
that
are
not
here.
We
have
249
members
of
the
House
have
signed
legislation
to
rename
the
department
of
Navy
Navy
and
Marine
Corps
and
I
want
to
thank
senator
Pat
Roberts
on
the
Senate
side
has
dropped
the
same
type
of
Bill
I'm.
I
I,
don't
know
how
that
got
mixed
up.
That's
the
wrong
video!
So
I
apologize,
don't
know
what
happened
with
that
anyway.
They,
the
commandant
of
the
Marine
Corps
and
the
Admiral.
The
Navy,
talked
about
hyperbaric
oxygen
therapy
in
in
2014.
They
had
sent
Marines
to
treatment
in
Louisiana.
They
got
healed
up
and
they're
asking
why
we're
not
using
this?
They
said
as
far
as
they're
concerned.
We
should
be
sending
our
troops
and
they
should
be
getting
this
if
it's
helping
save
their
lives.
I
So
I
apologize
for
for
the
mix-up
on
that
I.
Don't
know
why
that
video
occurred.
I
Okay:
five
barriers
to
hyperbaric
oxygen
therapy,
significant
profit
reductions
for
pharmaceutical
industry
4.8
billion
a
year
right
now
spent
with
the
VA
for
pharmaceutical.
Virtually
about
90
percent
of
vets
come
off
their
Farmers
pharmaceutical
drugs.
When
they
go
through
the
treatment
they
just
don't
need
of
it
anymore.
I
I
I
So
we're
asking
for
some
help
we're
asking
for
some
help
short
term
with
the
treatments.
I
I
Medicare
average
annual
recurring
costs
per
mile
TBI
patient
is
25
000
and
20
23
dollars
and
if
all
12
050
TBI
Kentucky
vets
under
CMS
estimated
300
million
a
year,
5.5
million
caregiver
costs
is
6.6
billion
annually
and
lost
productivity.
That's
about
a
thousand
per
vet
14
billion
voluntary
care.
It's
about
2500
per
vet
across
the
U.S
we've
got
11
000,
plus
unemployed
veterans,
32.7
million
state
income
loss.
I
We've
got
a
validated
treatment,
safety
and
efficacy.
Now
in
4-H
bot
treatment,
centers
average
cost
about
12
and
a
half
to
fifteen
thousand
per
vet
and
by
the
way
in
our
Network
treat
now
we've
got
135.
Private
clinics
have
been
treating
for
15
years
about
21
000,
total
patients
we've
treated,
including
vets
about
6
500
of
those
are
vets
but
First
Responders
police
car
accident
victims
have
all
been
treated
safely
and
effectively.
I
So,
in
closing,
our
efforts
parallel,
that
of
such
National
issues
such
as
the
cigarette
manufacturers,
efforts
to
debunk
links
between
smoking
and
cancer,
Purdue
Pharma
and
the
cycler
family,
using
non-addictive
opioids
for
pain,
relief
in
targeting
veterans,
NFL,
discounting
links
between
concussions
and
long-term
effects
of
CTE
controversies
and
the
spreading
awareness
worldwide
about
concussions,
untreated
misdiagnosed
can
and
frequently
do
lead
to
dementia
depression
and
death.
I
I
belong
to
a
national
group
of
pro
bono
veterans
across
the
country.
Working
to
interrupt
the
cycle
has
taken
the
lives
over
220
000
bits.
We're
asking
for
your
help
to
break
the
cycle
of
proceduring.
Our
TBI
PTSD
vets
across
the
country,
but
especially
here
in
the
Commonwealth,
and
so
with
that
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
Jeff
and
talk
about
his
personal
Journey
with
TBI
and
h-spot.
J
How
we
do
not
on
time
reading,
okay,
good
morning,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
my
name
is
Master
Sergeant
Jeff,
Gantt
I'm,
a
former
Marine
and
medically
retired
Air
Force
para
rescuement
from
Lagrange
Kentucky
actually
had
the
pleasure
of
working
with
Mr
bratcher
for
those
of
you,
unfamiliar
with
Air
Force
pararescue.
We
are
part
of
the
Special
Operations
component
of
the
Air
Force
specializing
in
combat
search
and
rescue
throughout.
My
17-year
military
career
I
suffered
a
multitude
of
Orthopedic
brain
and
neurological
injuries.
J
At
the
end
of
my
career,
I
proudly
limped
away
with
a
few
spine,
artificial,
hip,
diagnosed
brain
injuries
and
a
fused
ankle.
Just
to
name
a
few
one
of
the
more
debilitating
injuries
was
the
onset
of
migraines,
most
likely
caused
by
the
TBI
I
was
dealing
with
daily,
low-grade
headaches.
Extreme
lethargy
mood
swings
and
severe
migraines.
Two
to
three
days
a
week.
J
J
Ultimately,
my
quality
of
life
was
very
poor.
Despite
the
best
efforts
from
the
VA
and
Private
health
care
providers.
As
most
veterans
do,
I
was
taking
a
laundry
list
of
prescribed
medications.
However,
the
side
effects
were
often
worse
than
the
symptoms.
J
I
decided
to
stop
taking
my
medications
after
I
came
very
close
to
taking
my
own
life.
The
drugs
were
creating
a
whole
new
set
of
problems.
For
me
in
my
search
for
alternative
treatment,
solutions
for
myself
and
my
fellow
veterans
and
through
a
stroke
of
Fate
I,
was
introduced
to
Mr
Eric
kolita
with
hbot
for
Kentucky
vets.
J
He
provided
me
with
40
hyperbaric
chamber
sessions,
which
I
was
able
to
accomplish
in
a
relatively
short
period
of
time
all
this
at
no
cost
to
me,
even
though
the
primary
objective
was
to
reduce
TBI
symptoms,
I
experienced
significant
physiological
improvements
throughout
my
entire
body,
while
there's
no
magic
bullet
for
everything.
Hyperbaric
therapy
has
far
outperformed
any
other
medication
or
modality
I've
tried
in
the
past.
J
J
J
A
M
You,
sir
interesting
presentation,
very
interesting:
here's
here's!
You
know
my
basic
question:
I
I
actually
was
chief
of
Diagnostic
Radiology
at
our
local
VA
here
for
about
six
or
seven
years,
and
no
we
do
not
have
the
VA
system
does
not
own
their
own
hyperbaric
chambers,
but
they
are
readily
available
for
our
vets.
If
needed,
we
have
multiple
available
in
the
region,
including
Southern
Indiana,
so
the
region,
exactly.
What
is
your
ask?
I
mean
if
the
neurologist
or
the
psychiatrists
feel
that
this
is
appropriate
for
their
patients.
I
What's
your
question,
so
I've
worked
this
for
the
last
eight
years
across
the
country.
There's
1156
hospitals
with
wound
care,
centers,
Hyperbaric
clinics,
so
they're,
widely
available
across
the
entire
U.S
to
all
the
VA
hospitals
they're
already
there.
The
infrastructure
in
the
U.S
is
here
for
treatment.
They
just
have
to
be
referred
in.
The
state
of
Kentucky
I
have
identified
35
different
hospitals
across
the
entire
state
that
has
Hyperbaric
wound
care
centers.
I
They
also
are
widely
available,
nobody's
being
recommended
by
the
VA.
The
Vets
are
coming
to
us,
they're
coming
for
us
for
help,
because
they're
committing
suicide,
they're
overdosing
on
drugs,
they've
gone
through
the
whole
drug
protocol.
It's
not
working
they're
they're
not
getting
healed
up,
and
so
when
they
come
to
us,
they're
broken
and
we
heal
them
up.
I
I,
don't
know,
you'll
have
to
talk
to
the
VA
in
Washington.
Ask
them
why
they're
not
referring
guys
I
mean
it's
that
the
medical
evidence
is
compelling.
If
you
look
at
the
20
clinical
IRB
trials
have
been
completed
since
07.
These
are
highly
respected:
medical
doctors,
neurologists
general
surgeons.
These
are
not
voodoo.
Doctors,
they're
well
respected
across
the
entire
country,
doing
these
clinical
IRB
trials
and
the
results
are
just
what
I've
shown
you
here
today.
I
Also
asking
for
funding
we're
ready
to
treat
we've
got
the
facilities.
They've
they've
indicated
they
will
treat
vets.
We've
got
a
law
pass
that
allows
vets
to
go
into
treatment
if
they
have
a
diagnosis,
they've
served
our
country
and
ability
to
pay,
and
so,
like
I
said,
we
funded
the
first
five
I'm
asking
for
additional
funding,
so
we
can
help
treat
these
guys
and
get
them
healed
up.
J
I
J
Something
to
that
yeah,
so
I
come
from
a
community
where
the
majority,
if
we've
spent
you
know
if
you
spent
10
years
or
more
in
Special
Operations,
there's
a
good
chance.
You've
had
concussions
and
you're
gonna
you're
gonna
be
spit
out
with
a
TBI
and.
J
Working
with
my
peers
and
And
discussing
these
treatment
options,
you
know
we're
all
we're
all
part
of
the
VA
we're
all
in
that
system.
Never
once
have
they
offered
Hyperbaric
therapy
treatment.
That's
never
come
up
with
my
providers
and
on
any
occasion,
so
that's
why
we're
looking
for
outside
yeah.
M
If
I
may
follow
up-
and
it
is
because
it
is
not
considered
the
standard
of
care-
and
we
do
not
have
data
to
support-
we
have
data
to
support
that.
In
the
acute
situation
hyperbaric
chambers
may
help
I
mean
the
goal
is
to
get
oxygen
to
the
cells
so
that
they
can
repair
themselves.
That's
what
we're
doing
with
in
hyperbaric
chambers,
and
we
have
data
that
shows
if
you
have
living
tissue
it
works.
But
if
you
have
dead
tissue
you
have
chronic
injuries,
it
will
not
revascularize
and
Revitalize
that
that
tissue.
M
It
does
not
work
that
way
and
I
mean
I
can
promise
you
I'm
a
neuroimager
I
have
spent
40
years
looking
at
at
Chronic,
brain
injuries
and
and
what
we
can
see
and
what
we
can't
see
and
if
we
had
good
quality
data.
That
shows
that
you
can
take
areas
of
a
brain
that
are
no
longer
vascularized
and
re-vascularize
them
and
they
would
open
back
up
and
and
become
active
brain
tissue.
I
mean
that
would
be
wonderful,
but
that's
not
what
the
data
shows.
I
M
In
the
short
term,
in
the
long
term
that
that
brain
that
devascularized
area
dies,
I
mean
I'm,
I
can
I
promise.
You
I
know
as
much.
If
my
much
more
about
traumatic
brain
injury,
sir
than
you
do,
it's
what
I've
spent
my
life
doing
and
we
see
where
the
vascular
injuries
are.
We
see
where
these
Shear
injuries
are.
We
see
where
these
coup
injuries,
these
Contra
coup
injuries
are,
and
we
know
that,
once
that
brain
has
lost
its
blood
supply,
we
are
not
going
to
be
able
to
revascularize
and
save
that
tissue.
It
does
not.
I
Work
I'll
be
happy
to
share
the
20
clinical
IRB
trials.
We've
got
them
on
a
spreadsheet
and
links
to
the
treatment
results
that
came
from
all
those
clinical
trials
and
also
hook
you
up
with
at
least
a
half
a
dozen
hyperbaric
oxygen
Specialists
medical
doctors
that
conducted
those
trials
and
and
speak
with
them.
M
Who
sir
I
would
have
to
say
have
financial
interest
in
this?
Because
if
you
own
a
hyperbaric
chamber,
you
have
a
financial
interest
to
increase
the
amount
of
of
patients
that
you
are
authorized
to
treat,
and
we
don't
want
to
waste
Health
Care
dollars
on
something
that
we
know
is
not
going
to
work.
It
is
available
if
this
data
was
good
enough.
I
can
promise
you
that
the
neurologists
that
I
work
with
at
the
VA
would
be
sending
their
patients.
They
are
desperate
for
something
that
works,
because
we
know
nothing
works.
I
A
Let
us
let
us
move
on.
We've
got
some
more
questions,
we're
running
short
of
time.
You
might
ought
to
get
with
her
later
on
and
I
think
she
knows
what
you're
talking
about
and
I
know.
You
know
what
you're
talking
about
so
please,
but
we
got
a
couple
more
questions.
We
need
to
move
on
representative
bratcher,
foreign.
H
Good
to
see
you
again,
it
was
a
pleasure
serving
with
you
and
he's
being
very
humble
he's
one
of
those
special
opportunities
you
call
on
whenever
the
nation
needs
a
some
something
done
really
quick
and
clandestine
operations
he's
a
scuba,
diver
skydiver
mountain
climber,
repels,
he's
trained
paramedic
and
he's
been
in
multiple
battles
that
some
movies
and
books
have
been
written
about.
H
So
we
appreciate
your
service,
he's
also
been
to
the
state
he's
one
of
those
ones
that
got
called
up
for
covered
relief,
the
tornadoes
the
flooding,
the
some
of
the
other
things,
the
the
riots
downtown,
so
he's
one
of
those
ones
that
I've
talked
about
before.
But
so
it's
glad
to
see
you
see
you
again
good
to
see
that
you're
doing
good.
H
One
question
for
you:
is
this
hype,
this
treatment?
How
many
medications
were
you
on
prior
to
this
treatment
compared
to
afterwards.
J
I
I
actually
lost
count
because
it
was
more
cyclic.
You
know,
there's
things,
I
would
try
and
stop
so
I.
Think
in
aggregate
easily
conservative
number
would
be
20
medications
and
now
I'm
only
taking
supplements,
so
no
prescription
medications
whatsoever.
None.
H
A
A
You
representative,
Proctor.
E
I
have
thank
you
for
your
service.
Senator
Berg
shared
some
of
my
concerns.
I
myself
have
worked
with
TBI
for
20
years
and
and
several
of
those
years
were
with
the
military.
My
experience
has
been
that
yes,
this
does
work
acutely
the
hyperbaric
chambers
in
a
comprehensive
rehabilitation
program.
I
guess
what
I
would
want
to
see.
My
concern
is
the
same
as
Senator
Berg's
long-term.
How
how
far
Outpost
are
we
still
seeing
benefits
and
then
do
we
have
evidence-based
data
on
that?
E
That's
what
I
would
like
to
see
because
I've
seen
it
acutely
I'm
just
concerned
about
how
far
post
the
year
you
know
two
years
five
years,
my
experience
has
been
as
a
therapist.
That's
treating
that
at
some
point.
You
do
compensatory
strategies,
because
the
healing,
after
a
year
is
pretty
much
complete.
A
All
right,
Senator,
Meredith.
F
F
What
we're
going
to
caught
my
attention
is,
when
you
mentioned
that
the
VA
doesn't
offer
the
service,
so
I
do
what
everybody
does
in
this
world
today
I
went
to
Google
to
find
out
what's
going
on
here
and
I.
Guess.
Part
of
the
problem
is
that
the
Department
of
Defense
has
had
five
studies
on
this
since
2018
and
they
say
that
it's
not
an
effective
treatment.
F
So
obviously
it's
still
in
the
research
kind
of
phase
and
I
think
what
you're
really
asking
is
to
give
you
1.5
million,
to
do
kind
of
our
own
clinical
study,
because
you
said
you
would
provide
us
with
reports
as
to
the
efficacy
of
this
thing,
but
I
think
it
is
interesting
that
Department
of
Defense
doesn't
support.
This
I
also
wrote
a
report
from
the
government
Accounting
Office.
F
It's
verified
their
reports
and
said:
don't
think
it's
effective,
so
conflicting
information
here,
but
this
would
be
part
of
the
discussion
we'll
have
to
have
when
we
come
back
at
session
in
January,
but
I
do
appreciate
the
information
appreciate
your
testimony
today
and
again.
Thank
you
for
your
service
I'll.
F
F
A
You
Senator
Hickory.
N
N
I
100
percent
of
it
goes
towards
testing
and
treatment.
Well,
I
cover
all
the
administrative
charges
on
my
own,
so
we
drug
an
alcohol
test
every
vet
before
they
go
into
treatment
because
they
can't
get
in
the
chamber
under
influence
if
they
exhibit
any
type
of
under
the
influence
parameters
during
treatment.
We
pull
them
back
out,
retouch
them
again.
If
they
test
positive,
we
pull
them
out
of
the
program.
They
got
to
be
drug
alcohol
free
when
they
go
into
the
chambers.
I
That's
a
standard.
We
do
some
pre-testing
before
they
go
in.
We
do.
What
we're
planning
to
do
here
is
spec
MRI
brain
scans
before
they
start
treatment
to
validate
their
diagnosis
and
how
much
damage
they
have
from
the
concussions,
and
then
we
put
them
through
40
hbot
Dives.
So
it's
one
dive
one
hour
a
day,
five
days
a
week,
Monday
through
Friday
until
they
complete
the
full
40..
I
There
may
be
some
lapses
in
between
there
Sony
wears
from
two
to
three
months
and
then,
when
they
complete
treatments,
they
go
back
in
and
get
another
spec
scan
to
validate
whether
the
treatment's
been
effective
and
whether
the
tissue's
been
healed
up.
We
also
do
right
eye
testing.
That's
a
a
new
testing.
It's
computer
generated,
it's
been
approved
by
the
FBA
FDA
since
2018
70
percent
of
your
sensory
information
comes
from
your
eyes
into
your
brain.
I
That
right
eye
testing
can
measure
deficiencies
in
eye
to
brain
Movement.
We
record
all
of
that
gets
recorded
on
a
sheet
pre
and
post,
and
we
use
that
as
analysis
for
determining
whether
concussion
has
been
healed
or
not
so
there's,
no,
our
non-profit,
we're
all
pro
bono.
We
don't
take
any
salaries,
we
don't
take
any
money
at
all.
100
percent
of
the
money
goes
towards
treatment
and
testing.
N
Okay,
one
one
final
question:
Mr
chairman,
tell
me
a
little
bit
about
your
organization
hbot
for
KY
vets,
I'm
I'm
not
familiar
with
it.
So
could
you
maybe
fill
us
in
where
you're
located
we're.
I
Right
here
in
Kentucky,
after
my
brother-in-law
was
diagnosed,
we
legislated
House
Bill
64
in
2018.
Immediately
after
that
bill
was
enacted.
We
went
forward
with
creating
a
501c3
non-profit
here
to
raise
money
to
help
treat
vets
that
had
TBI
PTSD,
and
so
our
functionality
at
the
local
level
is
helping
raise
money
to
try
and
get
treatments
for
vets
in
need.
I
We
have
a
board
of
directors,
comprises
of
Colonel,
Ron,
Ray's,
wife,
Eunice,
Ray
and
two
other
people,
and
at
the
national
level,
we're
working
with
other
states
trying
to
help
legislate.
This
treatment
for
TBI
vets
across
America.
A
A
It
now
we
got
one
of
our
own
Senator
Yates.
A
F
O
Thank
you,
chair
gerdler
and
chair
Thomas,
appreciate
you
having
us
here.
This
is
a
bill
that
I've
got
to
have
a
lot
of
one-on-one
conversations
with
several
of
you
about
and
I'm
excited
to
bring
it
before
you,
I
am
Senator
David
Yates
I
represent
part
of
Jefferson
County
in
the
37th
District
I
have
with
me
detective
Mosley.
If
you'd
like
to
briefly
introduce
yourself
in
your
position,
I'm.
O
Behind
us
is
a
wall
of
support
for
this
bill
that
would
include
Sean
Herron,
who
is
executive
administrator
of
lmpd
and
search
and
rescue
coordinator
Sergeant
Lee
Burke
is
lmpd
domestic
violence
unit
detective
Lauren
Carby
is
lmpd
domestic
violence
unit.
Detective
Adam
Mosley
is
lmpd
third
division,
criminal
investigations
unit
and
investigator
Becky
Sanders
lmpd
domestic
violence
unit
they're
all
here
because
of
the
necessity
of
this
piece
of
Legislation.
During
the
2023
legislative
session
we
filed
Senate
Bill
267,
and
that
would
create
the
Kentucky
Ashante
alert
system.
O
O
O
The
reason
this
is
important
because
the
amount
of
time
and
distance
traveled
between
Ashanti's
abduction
and
discovery
of
the
body
as
well
as
Fallen
outside
of
the
scope
of
the
alert
programs
that
we
had
in
place.
Let
us
know
and
kind
of
brought
to
our
attention
the
lack
of
State,
Regional
or
Nationwide
missing
persons
alert
for
those
members
or
individuals
over
the
age
of
17..
O
The
Amber
system
that
so
many
people
are
aware
of
is,
though,
for
under,
unfortunately,
when
someone's
son
or
daughter
or
someone
reaches
over
the
age
of
majority,
it
falls
outside
that.
So
in
December,
31st
of
2018,
the
Ashanti
alert
Act
of
2018
became
law,
Department
of
Justice
put
that
in
place,
but
it
established
a
voluntary
Nationwide
communication
Network
to
Aid
the
search
and
rescue
of
missing
persons
over
the
age
of
17..
They
put
that
in
place
so
that
states
could
individually
pass
legislation,
so
they
could
act
in
construction
with
each
other.
O
O
The
the
this
Ashanti
alert
would
provide
the
rapid
dissemination,
information
to
law
enforcement
agencies,
the
media,
the
public
for
adults,
who've
been
reported
missing,
along
with
information
regarding
their
suspected
abductor.
Now,
a
lot
of
part
people
worry
about
well,
how's,
this
going
to
be
used
is
going
to
be
everywhere,
it's
very
narrowly
tailored
onto
it
detective
Mosley
beside
me.
O
She
approached
me
in
support
of
establishing
the
Ashante
Network
early
last
year,
or
maybe
even
the
year
before
we
started
talking
about
it,
but
through
her
work
as
a
police
detective
and
all
these
individuals
behind
us
here,
they
witnessed
firsthand
year
after
year
the
importance
of
being
able
to
require
assistance
from
police
departments
throughout
Kentucky,
but
also
in
Indiana.
It's
lies
between
us
who
already
has
this
in
place.
We
have
this
breakdown
in
communication
and
detector
Mosley.
If
you
wouldn't
take
just
a
couple
minutes
to
give
us
an
example
of
while
we're
here.
C
Good
afternoon,
I
was
directly
involved
as
a
lead
investigator
in
a
domestic
violence
kidnapping
that
occurred
in
April
2022.
I
got
to
watch
a
one.
It's
a
women
and
seven
second
video
of
a
young
lady
being
drugged
out
of
her
replacement
employment,
her
job
by
an
alleged
boyfriend
through
the
course
of
my
investigation,
when
I
reached
out
to
attempt
to
locate
any
type
of
an
alert
that
may
have
been
available,
I
was
told,
Kentucky
doesn't
have
anything
for
you.
C
Does
it
have
anything
for
this
victim,
so
I
had
to
find
other
routes
at
that
time,
but
I
know
in
a
part
with
other
investigators.
Specifically,
you
know
just
that
within
my
Police
Department,
specifically.
If
that
alert
would
have
been
in
place,
it
would
have
saved
so
much
time
and
gotten
information
out
there.
So
much
quicker,
which
I
know
our
victims
deserve
to
have
that
I
know
that
I
always
try
to
view
things
where,
if
that
was
my
daughter,
my
son,
or
if
that
was
me
that
was
missing.
C
O
O
It
will
Define
a
missing
adult
as
an
individual
who
is
one
above
the
age
of
majority
and
then
two
identified
by
law
enforcement
as
a
missing
person
who
may
be
in
immediate
danger
due
to
circumstances
which
indicate
abduction
or
kidnapping
and
then,
finally,
that
that
the
information
being
disseminated
will
Aid
in
that
recovery.
So
this
isn't
saying
every
time
something
has
happened,
it'll
go
out.
This
is
we
have
an
adult
who's
been
kidnapped
and
this
information
needs
to
get
out
to
save
their
life.
O
It
only
requires
the
use
of
existing
resources
and
operation
within
our
existing
budget.
We've
already
laid
it
out,
we've
already
put
it
in
place.
We
just
need
to
make
sure
that
we
are
coordinating
with
all
these
other
states,
because
we
know
in
today
people
can
move
so
quickly.
How
frustrating
it
is
for
someone
in
Indiana
who's
missing
who
cannot
work
with
Kentucky.
O
A
We
do
have
one
of
our
own
policemen,
representative,
Latin,.
E
P
Thank
you
all
for
your
presentation
and
I
could
see
where
this
would
be
a
a
vital
tool
for
law
enforcement.
These
type
circumstances
I
have
to
wonder.
We
have
Amber
Alert.
We
have
golden
alert
I,
think
we
have
a
green
alert
out
there.
P
While
we
aren't
just
looking
at
an
alert
in
general,
when
certain
criteria
is
met
without
having
to
constantly
come
back
and
redo
legislation
for
a
catch-off,
any
individual
that
comes
up
under
suspicious
circumstances,
while
we
can't
put
some
kind
of
an
alert
out
there,
but
I'll
digress
on
that
part.
Certainly
supportive
of
of
what
you're
trying
to
accomplish
here
but
I
I
do
have
a
quick
question.
P
P
They
expect
us
to
do
more
with
less,
because
there's
always
things
that
says
well,
KSP
will
do
this
or
KSP
will
do
that,
but
it
requires
oftentimes,
more
manpower,
more
resources
to
do
it
and
there's
no
funding
to
back
that
up
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
properly
fund
them
to
do
this
I.
Don't
think
this
would
cost
a
whole
lot
more,
since
we
already
have
all
the
other
alert
type
systems
in
place.
P
But
just
out
of
curiosity,
have
you
spoken
with
anyone
within
KSP
to
see
if
it
would
cost
any
additional
funds
or
or
require
any
additional
Manpower?
Well.
O
Lucky
today
we
have
with
the
golden
alerts
that
went
out
in
place.
The
executive
administrator
of
LMP
and
the
search
and
rescue
coordinator
is
here
with
us
there
behind
us,
and
so,
although
she
switched
over
to
lmpd,
she
continued
to
be
able
to
work
that
up
what
we've
done
is
we've
put
in
a
system
that
is
in
place
to
put
it
out,
but
it
has
certain
qualifications
that
you
have
to
the
Amber
Alert
because
of
the
way
the
federal
system
for
the
highways.
It
is
very
limited
in
scope.
P
O
Green
alert,
if
we're
missing
impaired
veteran,
the
Blue
Alert
is
a
peace
officer,
has
been
killed
or
injured.
So
that's
qualification.
The
golden
alert
would
not
be
under
necessarily
Kentucky
State
Police,
because
there's
no
crime
there
it's
about
a
search
effort
into
it
and
then
the
Amber
Alert,
with
the
abducted
child
has
limitation.
The
Ashante
is
like,
like
detective
Mosley
testified.
It
fell
within
this
hole
where
they
couldn't,
because
you
have
a
young
person
that
wind
up
being
over
the
age
of
18
and
because
of
that
one
piece
in
there.
O
They
couldn't
use
the
system,
and
so
this
and
I
still
say
Teenage
as
a
child
wind
up
being
missing
too
long
and
they
found
her
body.
This
would
simply
allow
them
to
use
that
same
type
of
alert,
but
that's
the
positive
you're
right
we've
got
the
technology
in
place.
We
have
the
information
the
way
disseminate
it.
I
was
really
talking
to
my
daughter,
who
is
at
Manual
High
School.
One
of
the
kids
here
had
developed
an
app
even
an
upgraded
app
to
be
able
to
share
those
information.
O
The
technology
is
getting
easier
and
cheaper
It's,
just
sometimes
without
knowing
what
we're
doing
this
legislation,
we'll
hamstring,
our
men
and
women
who
are
in
law
enforcement
and
trying
to
recover
people.
We
keep
them
from
be
able
to
do
their
job,
and
this
obviously
is
a
piece
that,
throughout
the
nation,
everybody's
gotten
on
board,
we've
just
been
slow
to
act
in
Kentucky
and
and
hopefully
we
can
move
forward.
P
And
and
I
totally
agree
and
again,
I'm
supportive,
but
my
question
is:
have
you
conferred
with
KSP
is
to
see
if
there's
going
to
be
an
additional
Financial
cost
to
them,
to
be
able
to
do
what
you're
asking
of
them,
because
I
want
to
ensure
that
if
there
is,
we
include
that
funding
for
them
to
be
able
to
do
it.
I'm
I'm.
P
Your
bill,
what
you're
wanting
to
do
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
they
have
what
they
need
to
enact
and
and
do
what
you're
asking.
O
Yes
and
I
have
not
directly
with
them
just
with
the
executive
administrator
of
the
program
but
I'm
all
for
you
we'll
find
it
so
I'll
make
sure
I
get
on
there
to
and
I
know
it
may
be
de
minimis
in
small
amounts,
but
I
do
agree.
You
know
we
may
save
too
many
small
amounts.
They
do
add
up.
So.
A
Q
Thank
you,
Mr,
chair,
I
actually
have
a
comment
and
a
suggestion.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
bringing
this
legislation.
As
has
been
mentioned,
and
you
mentioned
as
well.
I
passed
the
golden
Alert
in
08.
We
later
removed
the
age
limitation
in
2012,
the
Blue
Alert
was
established
2019,
my
friend
Senator
Embry
passed
the
green
alert
and
all
these
alerts
have
been
so
helpful
in
bringing
our
loved
ones
home
and
I.
Think
the
Ashanti
alert
could
do
the
same
thing,
be
another
good
tool
for
law
enforcement.
Q
I'd
like
to
suggest
that
the
committee
take
testimony
regarding
all
of
the
alerts,
their
effectiveness,
their
outcomes,
their
operations
and
perhaps
even
help
with
the
fiscal
note
for
your
legislation.
So
Mr
chairman
I'm,
going
to
send
a
letter
to
you
today
that
I
have
prepared
asking
you
to
consider
testimony
on
all
the
alerts
through
the
vmap
committee
and
I.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
appreciate
you
all
and
I,
don't
think
we
have
any
more
questions.
So
thank
you.
A
Now
we're
going
to
go
with
the
Army
J
Junior
ROTC
pilot
program
in
Kentucky
and
the
young
lady
that
presents
this
I
lived
right
beside
her
when
she
was
born
so
y'all
be
very
good
to
her
she's,
a
precious
lady
and
her
mother
and
daddy
were
great
people.
So
anyway,.
A
While
they're
getting
ready,
I
I
saw
a
on
TV
or
Internet
or
whatever
that
we
only
have
10
percent
Junior.
All
TC's
in
the
state
of
Kentucky
is
that
right
only
about
10
percent
of
the
schools
and
we
get
30
percent
of
our
recruits
from
Junior
ROTC
or
from
ROTC.
So
that's
very
important
because
we're
down
25
percent
on
recruits
so
at
that's
a
good
lead-in
for
you,
Beth
I,
don't
think
so.
Green.
S
Good
afternoon,
currently,
in
Kentucky
we
have
around
8038
students
in
JROTC,
spanning
all
four
military
or
four
military
branches
of
those
about
70
percent
of
them
are
army.
Jrotc.
We're
excited
about
the
opportunity
to
expand
those
programs,
as
well
as
provide
a
focused
support
on
on
existing
programs.
We
hope
this
first
of
it.
First
of
its
kind
pilot
project
between
Katie
and
U.S
army
will
be
the
Catalyst
to
support
and
grow
our
JROTC
programs.
So
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Colonel
Chilton
to
provide
a
little
bit
more
detail
and
overview
about
the
pilot.
T
Good
afternoon
I'm
Colonel
Chilton
I'm,
the
seventh
excuse
me
I'm,
the
seventh
Brigade
Commander
for
U.S
army
Cadet
command
stationed
out
of
Fort
Knox
Kentucky.
First,
thank
you
for
having
us
here
today
to
do
this.
I'll
present
to
you,
the
state,
D.I
pot,
Dai
pilot
that
we
are
proposing
first
I'd
like
to
quickly
run
through
some
just
an
overview
of
the
Junior
ROTC
program
for
those
that
may
not
be
as
familiar
with
the
program
as
as
others.
T
The
jrtc
mission
is
to
train
and
Mentor
students
to
better
be
citizens
in
all
of
our
communities.
It's
not
a
recruiting
tool
for
the
military.
It
is
actually
a
career
track
and
we
work
very
diligently
to
do
that.
We
have
a
structured
program
to
teach
and
Mentor
Junior
ROTC
Cadets,
based
on
a
specific
curriculum
framework
and
the
Junior
ROTC
program
for
accreditation,
or,
as
we
call
it,
the
jpa
is
used
to
assess
each
program
every
three
years.
T
The
junior
RTC
course
levels
are
referred
to
as
learning
education,
training
or,
as
we
call
let
one
through
four.
So
one
two
and
three
and
four
as
you
can
see
on
the
slide.
Cadets
progress
in
leadership
from
emerging,
developing
supervising
and
ultimately
to
managing
leader,
the
curriculum,
focuses
on
areas
important
to
our
communities
and
for
advancement
in
a
student's
future
career
such
as
leadership,
development,
team
building
and
government
and
citizenship.
T
Among
the
many
other
concentrations
listed
on
the
framework
on
the
slide,
other
benefits
of
Junior
RTC
include
access
to
robotics
drones,
newly
cyber
pilot
that
we're
running
across
Cadet
commands
running
across
its
entire
footprint
and
many
other
team
building.
Events
they're
competed
all
the
way
up
to
the
National
level.
T
All
programs
are
assessed
every
three
years
on
academics,
instructor
assessment
and
Cadet
performance
to
maintain
national
accreditation.
Our
most
recent
score
for
my
Brigade
was
92
percent.
A
tangible
result
that
we
see
from
these
programs
is
a
higher
GPA
in
attendance,
with
the
Junior
ROTC
students
compared
to
their
school
averages
now
to
get
into
the
Dai
pilot
first,
a
Dai.
What
it
stands
for
is
director
of
army
institution
or
I'm.
Sorry,
Army
instruction.
T
It's
a
higher
level
organization
that
has
a
very
small
staff
and
standardizes
all
functions
for
all
jrtcs
within
a
district.
Currently
dais
are
only
authorized
at
the
district
level,
so
we
do
have
a
proof
of
concept
that
the
Dai
is
is
successful
in
standardizing
certain
schools
that
they're
responsible
for
a
dii
Authority
cannot
cross
district
lines,
so
it
the
the
standardization,
is
restricted
to
the
five
or
more
schools
in
their
District.
T
Only
we
do
have
data
that
shows
that
that
the
jrtc
programs
that
fall
under
a
Dar
are
more
standardized
and
more
efficient
than
the
ones
that
are
standalone.
T
The
junior
instructors
and
Dai
teams
work
for
the
schools
or
districts,
so
they
don't
work
for
the
military.
They
actually
work
for
the
schools
and
districts
that
they
work
for.
The
Army's
responsibilities
include
running
a
very
detailed
background
check
and
then
ensuring
that
the
retired
service
members
meet
Army
standards
such
as
height
weight
and
physical
abilities.
T
We
will
also
help
message,
retire,
message
to
retiring
and
those
already
retired
service
members
for
placement
and
provide
a
list
and
maintain
that
list
of
qualified
applicants.
Currently
Kentucky
has
62
jrotcs.
We
have
five
additional
that
are
ndaas,
which
means
the
school
pays.
100
percent
of
the
instructor
cost,
but
the
military
does
or
DOD
does
invest
the
money
for
the
drones.
The
Cyber
and
things
like
that.
T
A
Dai
at
the
state
level
would
allow
Crossing
of
district
lines
so
that
one
Dai
at
the
state
level
would
be
able
to
standarize
all
62
of
the
Kentucky
jrtc
programs.
The
Standalone
of
Kentucky
makes
it
a
perfect
state
to
do
this.
Dai
For,
if
it's
successful,
we
we
Cadet
command
would
step
would
implement
this
across
the
entire
nation.
So
we
would
look
at
every
state,
that's
similar
to
Kentucky
and
implement
this
at
that
level.
T
T
On
this
slide,
we've
included
roles
and
responsibilities
on
the
top
left,
again,
improving
oversight
in
the
admin
and
logistical
processes,
assisting
schools
with
hiring
and
retaining
the
best
instructors
and
then
being
a
brigade
primary
POC.
For
my
Brigade
number,
two,
our
assessment
criteria
that
we
will
use
on
the
dod
side
is
in
the
bottom
left
and
what
we'll
be
looking
at
is
the
jpa
that
we
talked
about
the
assessment,
so
we'll
look
at
that
performance,
student,
enrollment,
co-curricular
participations,
instructor
vacancies,
misconduct,
allegations
and
then
lastly
flipples,
which
are
basically
investigations
for
property
loss.
T
The
breakout
of
the
D.A
headquarter,
Personnel
that
the
headquarters
that
we're
talking
about
hosting
here
is
in
the
top
right
corner.
Total
of
six
personnel
and
Miss
Hargis
will
go
a
little
more
detail
on
the
budget
for
that
in
a
couple
slides.
T
The
pro
the
proposed
timeline
is
in
the
bottom
right
corner,
and
is
it
a
three?
It's
a
three-year
pilot
on
our
side.
I
realize
that
you
have
a
two-year
budget
time
frame,
but
on
the
bottom
bottom
right,
you'll
see
that
timeline.
T
We
also
realize
now,
as
we've
went
through
this
process
with
you
all,
that
the
funding
will
not
be
available
for
the
state
until
1
April
of
2024,
if
approved,
so
that
would
push
this
timeline
to
the
right
about
two
quarters
which,
which
is
not
an
issue
but
just
to
clarify
on
the
on
the
slide.
There
pinning
any
questions
on
the
actual
Dai
pilot
I'll
I'll
hand
it
over
to
Mr
Thompson
and
I
can
wait
till
the
end.
Unless
you
have
questions
now,.
S
Thank
you
so
I'd
like
to
just
generate
reiterate
what
Colonel
Chilton
has
covered.
You
know
from
a
KDE
perspective,
we're
looking
at
consistent,
JROTC
implementation
and
oversight,
high
quality,
instructional
recruitment,
the
equipment
and
materials
piece,
instead
of
them
being
Standalone
programs.
It'll
all
be
funneled
through
this
particular
program
increase
in
instructor
efficacy,
because
I
mean
we'll
be
hand
in
hand
with
them
in
the
hiring
process
in
that
recruitment,
instructional,
rigor
and
relevant
student
achievement.
S
Industry
certification
that
is
tied
to
it
is
the
three-year
certificate
for
training
in
JROTC,
and
then
there's
going
to
be
increased
collaboration
between
Office
Square
and
Technical
education
and
the
Army,
and
also,
and
in
that
collaboration,
there's
some
other
things
built
in
that
are
just
kind
of
side
effects
of
this.
So
this
there's
heavily.
You
know
heavily
involved
in
stem
on
this.
So
some
of
the
things
in
that
Health
Science
and
nursing
engineering,
computer
science.
They
do
Vex,
robotics,
archery,
drones,
virtual
reality
and
Military.
S
R
R
So
until
candidates
are
actually
selected,
we
do
not
know
from
the
KDE
level
the
actual
base
salary
due
to
position,
grading
and
any
difficulties
that
we
might
find
in
locating
candidates.
We
believe
the
Army
cost
sharing
will
not
exceed
230
152
and
again,
that
is
anticipating
a
base
salary
of
eighty
thousand
dollars
for
the
six
positions.
U
Thomas,
so
is
this
an
ass
that
we
need
to
relate
to
a
r,
or
is
this
going
to
be
an
ask
from
Kentucky
Department
of
Education
to
bump
bump
some
of
y'alls
are
who's
asking.
Do
you
need
us
to,
or
is
that
something
you're
going
to
go
through
the
Department
of
Education
and
ask.
R
N
Central
hectic,
thank
you
Mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
all
for
the
presentation.
Personally.
I,
don't
think,
there's
a
better
better
program
in
the
anywhere
than
JROTC
and
I'd
like
to
see
it
in
every
High
School
in
the
state.
I
think
it's
that
that
type
of
a
program
that
takes
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
kids
that
are
young
young
people
and
gives
them
really
gives
them
Direction
and
so,
but
I'm
I'm,
a
little
I
guess
questions
about
the
the
six
Personnel.
Are
they
retired
military.
T
Yes,
sir,
right
now
you
it's
a
requirement
to
be
a
retired
military
to.
T
So
Dr
Hargis
did
a
average
because,
like
she
was
trying
to
what
she
was
explaining,
we
didn't
want
to
go
into
detail
because
there's
that
much
detail
for
the
each
position
can
range
from
a
retired
kernel
to
an
E7
retired,
so
that
money
could
could
fluctuate
depending
on
who
you
hire.
We
don't
have
say
on
who
that
is
so.
I
can't
tell
you
who
you
would
hire
how
much
it
would
cost
her.
N
That's
you've
answered
that's
a
very
good
answer
because
so
you're
taking
the
their
salary
as
when
they
retire
the
rank
and
that's
what
you're
paying
them
for
to
continue
these
positions.
T
Correct,
sir,
so
when
an
o6
retires,
they
receive
about
50
percent
of
their
base
pay.
So
the
MIP
is
the
other
half
and
that's
what
the
state
and
DOD
shares.
So
each
the
dod
and
state
down
at
the
school
district
pays
50
of
the
other
half.
So
it
brings
them
back
up
to
exactly
what
they
were
making
before
they
retired.
N
People
I'm
still
trying
to
get
my
arms
around
it.
So
I
better
understand
it.
So
these
six
would
oversee
the
the
training
or
will
they
actually
be
Hands-On
and
so
from
time
to
time
in
the
actual
School
District
actual
JROTC
programs.
T
Yes,
sir,
so
they
wouldn't
be
hand
hands
on
at
the
JROTC
level.
They
would
have
some
the
Dai.
The
0506
probably
will
not
be
at
all
he'll
be
managing
both
sides,
and
then
you
have
us
a
retired.
Sar
major
is
the
intent
for
the
operations
piece
to
do
a
lot
of
the
coordination
for
all
of
the
co-curriculars.
The
robotics
competitions.
Things
like
that.
N
F
Thank
you
Mr
chair
and
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
I
share,
Senator
Higdon's
enthusiasm
for
the
program.
I
really
would
like
to
see
this
across
the
entire
state
so
that
end
Could.
You
provide
us
with
a
list
of
schools
that
have
the
school
districts
that
have
these
programs
already.
A
Beth
I
think
you
won,
but
anyway
you
can
appreciate
y'all.
Thank
you
very
much
and
we'll
get
Senator
Higdon
on
the
money
side
because
he's
the
particular
one.
So
thank.
A
Now
I
got
another
Somerset
girl,
I've
left
my
Somerset
girls
here
to
the
last
Virginia,
bring
your
group
up
and
introduce
yourself
and
you've
got
to
20
minutes,
and
but
if
you
take
10
that'll
be
all
right
too.
V
Yeah
it's
out
there.
It
comes
okay,
I'll,
start
again
good
afternoon,
Mr,
chairman
Vice
chairman
and
members
of
the
committee.
My
name
is
Virginia
dial,
I
am
retired
from
an
extensive
career
in
banking
and
I'm.
Currently,
the
vice.
Currently,
the
president
and
CEO
of
connect,
Community
Village
I,
have
here
with
me
today:
Dr
Tony,
Dotson
and
I'll.
Let
him
introduce
himself.
W
V
V
You
have
an
extraordinary
opportunity
to
play
a
very
important
role
in
the
solution
to
the
right,
widespread
apathy
toward
our
veterans,
connect,
Community,
Village
and
Bluegrass
veterans.
Ranch
is
an
Innovative
plan
of
action
to
assist
our
veterans
in
transitioning
from
their
military
service
to
a
life
as
a
civilian.
V
We've
all
heard
the
statistics,
forty
thousand
homeless
veterans,
a
million
54
000
unemployed,
two
million
three
hundred
thousand
living
in
poverty
and
the
newest
estimate
from
a
joint
study
by
the
Americas
Warrior
partnership,
Duke
University
and
the
University
of
Alabama
shows
the
rate
of
suicide.
Among
our
veterans
is
closer
to
44
per
day.
Instead
of
the
quoted
22
per
day.
V
We
have
muddled
around
these
statistics
for
not
only
years
but
for
decades
our
repeated
attempt
to
reach
out
to
our
veterans
in
crisis
has
been
to
Simply,
stick
a
Band-Aid
on
it
and
hope
that
the
problem
will
cure
itself,
but
no
more
it's
time.
We
recognize
the
unique
needs
of
our
veterans
and
stop
trying
to
fit
them
as
Square
pegs
in
a
round
hole
connect.
Community
Village
has
created
a
more
precise
response
to
the
specific
needs
of
our
veterans
who
have
returned
home.
V
V
They
have
earned
the
right
to
every
resource
and
support
available
to
them
so
that
they
might
have
a
higher
quality
of
life
freed
from
the
stress
and
fear
of
hunger,
poverty
and
homelessness.
With
your
support,
we
can
start
today
on
providing
our
veterans
with
a
better
way
of
life.
The
moment
we
walk
out
of
this
committee
room,
we
can
begin
connect,
Community,
Village
and
Bluegrass.
V
Ranch
is
a
501c3
non-profit
organization
and
with
a
side
note
no
director,
president
officer
CEO
or
anyone
that
is
connected
as
an
officer
of
connect,
Community
Village
by
their
bylaws,
cannot
earn
a
penny
or
receive
a
dollar
from
their
contribution
to
connect
Community
Village.
So
it's
not
a
for-profit
for
anyone.
We're
not
out
here
to
make
a
dime
off
of
our
veterans,
we're
here
to
serve
them
that
we
have
been
seven
years
in
researching
and
traveling
the
country
to
formulate
the
best
working
practices
of
other
similar
initiatives.
V
We
have
taken
away
the
best
possible
practices
from
each
location
to
create
a
unique
pilot
community
that
will
succeed
in
helping
our
veterans
overcome
their
life
issues
with
trauma
and
their
difficulties
in
acclimating
themselves,
back
to
a
civilian
life.
The
national
Center
for
healthy
veterans
in
Alta,
Vista
Virginia
and
the
Community
First
Village
in
Austin
Texas
were
just
two
of
the
main
locations
we
visited
both
had.
This
have
shown
the
success
of
the
tiny
house
Independent
Living
Concept.
V
After
our
lengthy
but
much
needed
research,
we
have
formulated
a
strategic
plan
with
the
purchase
of
20
acres
located
on
the
beautiful
countryside
of
rural
Somerset
Kentucky.
It
is
essential
that
the
location
be
in
the
area
that
will
offer
a
serene
tranquil
and
peaceful
environment
for
a
holistic,
Therapeutic
Community
to
be
successful.
V
Ranch
will
accept
applications
for
veterans
that
are
referred
by
reliable
agencies
such
as
recovery
programs,
churches,
the
VA
and
our
judicial
system.
They
will
go
through
a
vetting
process
that
will
include
drug
testing,
background
check
and
a
physical
and
psychological
evaluation.
No
one
with
a
violent
or
sex
offender
background
will
be
accepted.
V
Random
drug
testing
will
be
a
required
standard
program
of
the
ranch.
We
will
have
ongoing
events
at
the
ranch
that
will
include
Community
outside
of
the
ranch
movie
Nights
music
presentations
at
the
Pavilion
campfires
barbecue
craft,
lessons,
pumpkin
patches
holiday
events,
agricultural
training
opportunities
and
tours.
It
is
important
that
that
we
connect
our
veterans
back
to
the
community
in
which
they
live
and
to
connect
our
community
back
to
our
veterans.
V
We
are
offering
a
solution
to
our
growing
veteran
crisis.
Not
only
do
we
need
your
support
politically,
but
we
need
your
support
financially
phase.
One
is
the
development
of
the
infrastructure,
roads,
utilities,
Barn
restoration,
the
General
Store
Veterans,
Memorial,
Gardens,
The
Pavilion,
and
the
Landscaping
phase.
Two
is
25
400
square
foot,
tiny
home
units
constructed
by
either
3D
printing
or
conventional
structures.
V
Phase
three
is
the
central
complex
with
the
dining
area,
offices,
study
and
educational
rooms,
laundry
room,
community
room
and
a
chapel.
Our
vision
exists
to
assist
our
veterans
seeking
faith-based
discipleship
to
further
their
transformation
and
recovery
from
various
life
events
as
a
result
of
their
complex
traumas.
V
We
are
asking
this
committee
to
allocate
1.5
million
dollars
to
create
the
Bluegrass
veterans,
Ranch
Community,
so
that
the
Battle
of
homelessness,
recidivism
relapse,
poverty
and
hopelessness
can
finally
be
overcome.
Will
you
stand
with
us?
Will
you
join
with
us
to
fight
against
their
unseen
enemies?
V
Can
we
make
them
a
promise
to
honor
them
now
in
life,
not
just
in
death?
Can
we
give
them
our
full
measure
of
devotion
and
never
forget
the
sacrifices
that
they
made?
We
can
give
them
our
lip
service
all
day.
Long
with
our
words.
Thank
you
for
your
service,
but
it's
time
we
put
those
words
into
action
and
we
show
them
that
we
believe
that
not
one
of
them
should
be
left
behind
turn
it
over
to
Mr
Dotson.
W
Hard
to
follow
that
could
have
been
in
the
army.
Mr
chairman,
as
I
said,
my
name
is
Tony
Dotson
and
I'm.
W
A
retired
army
veteran
I
started
my
army
career
at
Morehead,
State,
University
and
I
ended
at
a
University
of
Kentucky
and
since
retiring
it
in
2008,
I've
been
assisting
veterans
in
one
form
or
the
other
I
established
a
veterans
Resource
Center
at
the
University
of
Kentucky,
and
was
the
director
of
that
Center
for
a
decade
or
more
and
I
now
work
for
addiction,
recovery
care,
helping
them
establish
a
veteran
treatment
program
in
Somerset
Kentucky
specific
to
them.
W
They
have
found
that
their
veterans
stay
in
treatment
five
days,
which
is
obviously
not
enough.
I've
often
compared
my
work.
I
didn't
get
into
it
like
our
honored
veterans
over
there
are
distinguished
veterans,
it
kind
of
chose
me
I,
didn't
choose
it
and
I've
compared
it
to
panning
for
gold,
because
you
have
to
get
through
a
lot
of
mud
to
actually
find
those
gold
nuggets
and
Virginia
dials.
One
of
those
she
mentioned.
The
lip
service
and
the
glad
handing
and
I've
done
a
seen.
A
lot
of
that.
W
W
W
If
the
NFL
had
the
same
rates
of
suicide,
if
the
NFL
there
wouldn't
be
a
team
standing
to
take
the
field
by
the
end
of
August,
not
November,
not
next
year
by
the
end
of
August,
we
wouldn't
have
a
single
NFL
player
and
I
can
imagine
the
country's
outrage
when
I
talk
about
veterans,
ease
of
transition,
I
use
three
E's.
The
first
e
is
experience
and
I
can't
change
that
one.
W
W
They
tell
every
exiting
military
member
that
they
are
indeed
College
material
that
everything
they
did
in
the
U.S
military
is
worth
college
credit
that
employers
are
scrambling
to
hire
them,
knocking
each
other
over
to
hire
them
and
they're
going
to
be
a
hot
commodity
and
when
they
exit,
we
know
that
the
reality
of
this
world
is
much
different
and
what
happens
when
your
expectations
aren't
met.
Disappointment,
discouragement,
depression,
alcohol,
drugs,
so
forth.
W
The
last
e
is
environment,
because
environment
makes
a
difference.
That's
Carl's!
Not
here!
That's
why
so
many
Colonels
and
Generals
transition
into
DOD
Contracting,
because
you
can
still
be
a
colonel
or
general.
That's
an
easy
transition
right
because
they
understand
the
military
culture,
so
our
environment
that
we
transition
into
makes
a
big
difference.
Higher
education,
as
you
might
imagine,
is
a
huge
leap
from
the
military
culture.
W
Some
environments
are
far
more
conducive
to
others
and
that's
why
I
do
what
I
do
I
go
around
and
teach
military
cultural
awareness
I
try
to
improve
environments,
because
if
I
can
improve
environments,
increase
awareness,
then
I've
created
an
environment,
that's
inclusive
and
understanding.
So
our
veterans
who
might
be
struggling
will
struggle
less
and
that
my
friends
is
exactly
what
Virginia
and
her
team
are
trying
to
do
in
Somerset,
Kentucky
and
I
encourage
you
to
support
her
in
that
effort.
Thank
you.
W
A
You
did
good
yeah
I
like
being
go
ahead.
X
M
V
First
off,
yes,
there
are
others,
there's
actually
a
much
smaller
concept
of
this
and
Shelby
or
Shepherdsville
Kentucky
or
Shelbyville
Kentucky,
where
I
think
the
last
time
we
checked
they
had
like
five
tiny
houses
and
a
community
center.
This
is
a
little
bit
more
extensive
in
as
much
as
this
is
actually
a
working
Ranch
that
creates
an
opportunity
for
them
to
work
through
that
transition
with
again
safe
housing,
with
opportunities
for
vocational
training
to
make
a
livable
wage
character,
building
process.
V
The
veterans
training
veterans
like
like
Mr
Dotson
here,
so
that
they
feel
comfortable
in
that
transition,
and
then
what
was
your
second
question.
V
Will
come
from
qualified
agencies,
they
will
come
from
the
VA.
They
will
come
from
our
Judicial
System,
our
churches,
even
just
any
any
qualified
agent
recovery
programs
where
someone
has
been
in
their
recovery
program
for
like
12
months
and
but
they
still
need
that
transition.
This
is
going
to
be
geared
to
our
veterans,
but
make
no
mistake
this.
This
pilot
program
can
be
used
in
many
different
ways
across
the
state
across
our
country.
Actually,
you
could
take
this
same
model
and
apply
it
to
children
coming
out
of
foster
care.
V
You
can
have
a
community
like
this
tweak
it
to
to
work
for
our
children
aging
out
of
foster
care,
and
it
would
be
a
great
way
to
transition
them
back
out
into
society.
So
it's
but
we've
geared
this
toward
our
veterans.
This
is
this
is
where
my
heart
is,
but
the
pilot
can
be
twist.
It
could
be
used
for
men
and
women
coming
out
of
a
abuse
and
women
with
children
that
are
single
and
and
need
that
kind
of
support.
M
V
We
will
do
is
because
there
will
be
there'll,
be
a
zero
tolerance
for
any
kind
of
of
drugs
or
anything
on
the
property.
But
I
mean
we're
just
not
going
to
kick
them
out.
What
we
will
do
is
we
would
find
they
need
to
be
back
in
a
recovery
program,
and
we
would
find
them
a
a
good
structured
recovery
program
and
get
them
back
involved
in
that.
V
We
would
have
an
array
of
different
resources
and
programs
that
we
will
have
come
on
board
that
would
give
them
the
the
mental
services
that
they
would
need
according
to
what
they
need.
That's,
why
we'll
do
the
psychological
evaluation
prior
to
them
coming
into
where
we
would
know
what
that
need
was
and
fit
the
resource
and
the
program
to
the
veteran
instead
of
trying
to
fit
the
veteran
to
the
program.
D
V
To
the
great
thing
about
this
Ranch,
we
can
bring
those
services
to
them.
They
don't
have
to
go
out
and
try
to
find
where
they
belong.
We
will
evaluate
that
through
these
different
resources
and
agencies,
and
have
them
actually
come
to
our
community
center,
where
we
will
have
classrooms
and
things
like
that,
where
they
can
and
offices
where
they
can
interact
with
those
type
of
agencies.
D
And
then
one
more
question,
one
more
question
is
so
you
mentioned:
foster
care,
I'm,
a
former
foster
parent
with
the
state,
so
mental
health
is
a
huge
concern
of
mine
and
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
the
services
would
be
brought
to
the
individual.
My
concern
would
be
is
what
does
that
look
like
once
that
individual
has
exited
the
the
program
and
the
premises
of
the
farm
right?
D
This
is
a
one-year
program
where
the
goal
is
to
reintegrate
that
individual
back
into
community
and
I
just
would
want
to
make
sure
that
there
isn't
any
sort
of
issues
with
you
know,
contracts
and
how
those
individuals
receive
Services,
because
it's
incredibly
difficult
for
an
individual
to
gain
the
you
know
to
build
that
relationship
with
a
good
therapist
and
build
that
trust,
and
then
I
would
hate
for
somebody
to
have
to
leave
and
then
no
longer
be
able
to
access
that.
So,
if
there's
anything
that
you
could
speak
to
regarding
that.
V
Yes,
absolutely
we
we've
already
discussed
that
possibility
at
the
end
of
the
12-year
program
or
12-month
program
what
would
happen
and
if
the
veteran
feels
like
they
need
an
additional
time
there.
We
would
look
at
all
those
on
a
case-by-case
basis
and
the
thing
of
this
when
they
do
decide
to
leave
they're
going
to
be
a
forever
family.
They
can
always
come
back.
They'll
always
be
a
part
of
it
if
they
want
to
come
back
and
actually
be
a
mentor
to
to
another
veteran
that
has
come
in
there,
but
we
will.
V
We
will
walk
beside
them
with
this.
If
the
the
contracts
and
so
forth,
we
will,
we
will
have
outside
sources,
we're
not
going
to
have
an
individual
come
in
and
say
this
is
the
person
that
you
have
to
deal
with
for
12
months.
We
will
build
that
relationship
with
their
counselor
and
so
that,
once
they
do
leave,
if
they
want
to
continue
with
it,
they
can.
V
N
V
That
would
be
great
because,
with
your
help,
we
can
begin
this
now
rather
than
waiting.
You
know
this
year
and
next
year
next
year
for
Grants
and
and
things
like
that,
we
can
start
this
now
and.