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A
Okay,
I
want
to
call
this
meeting
of
the
kentucky
legislative
ethics
commission
to
order
for
april
11th
2022
via
zoom,
and
the
first
thing
I
would
like
to
do
is
for
danita
to
do
the
roll
call
and
if
you
will,
in
addition
to
answering
that
you're
present
indicate
where
you
are
located.
B
C
B
A
We
have
a
quorum
newly
constituted,
do
business,
you
have
received
your
packet
in
the
mail
and
including
in
that
included
in.
That
is
your
minutes.
The
last
meeting
have
you:
is
there.
A
B
I
knew
I
was
going
to
do
that
because
it's
a
monday
not
like
two
years
haven't
taught
me
anything
right.
It's
good
to
see.
You
all
glad
glad
that
you're
doing
okay
to
kind
of
bring
you
up
to
speed
on
where,
where
the
office
is
right
now,
as
you
know,
the
cove
numbers
are,
thankfully,
mercifully
going
down
so
as
of
april,
we're
pretty
much
in
the
office
all
the
time
together
for
better
for
worse,
maybe
for
richer
for
poorer
or
something.
B
But
it's
it's
going
well,
we've
also
discussed
and,
and
I've
we've.
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
for
them
to
for
our
staff
to
have
an
option
to
work
from
home
once
once
a
week
if
they,
if
they
want
to,
because
obviously
we
still
have
the
laptops.
We've
got
our
vpn
and
we
have
these
really
good
phones
that
can
transfer
in
and
out
so
amongst
them
amongst
themselves.
The
staff
have
set
up
a
schedule,
although
most
of
them
seem
to
seem
to
be
coming
in.
B
You
know
pretty
much
all
the
time
anyway,
but
that
I
think
that's
a
good
option
and
I
want
to
you,
know,
hopefully
be
flexible
and
allow
people
you
know.
Obviously,
as
things
come
up,
I
mean
it's
it's
great
to
have
that
to
have
that
flexibility.
B
So
so
I'm
glad
I'm
glad
we
were
able
to
do
that.
But
it's
it
is
nice
to
be
here
together
and
and
to
be
able
to
work.
You
know
work
here
which
is
which
is
good
again.
B
You
know,
I
can't
believe
it's
been
really
two
years
since
all
this
kind
of
covered
business
started
and-
and
I
just
want
to
reiterate
again
just
how
proud
how
proud
I
am
of
our
staff
during
this
time
I
mean
you
know
danita
and
lori
and
emily
and
tom
and
mark
really
I
mean
they
they
have
all
just
stepped
up
again
have
done
a
great
job
have
kept.
B
You
know
kept
the
office
going,
I
mean
it's,
it's
been
seamless
under
really
difficult
circumstances,
I
mean
unprecedented
circumstances
and
you
know,
and
it's
not
like
everybody
doesn't
have
their
own
lives
and
and
kids
and
things
you
know
things
to
do,
and
I
just
I
just
can't
you
know
can't
express
enough
to
all
what
good
work
they
do
for
the
the
commission
and
just
what
good
people
they
are.
I
mean
they're
they're,
just
so
flexible
and
trying
to
meet
all
this
and
and
really
we've
done.
B
I
mean
the
commission
has,
has
you
know
done
everything
it's
supposed
to
do?
I
think
so.
So
I
just
think.
That's
great
and
again,
we're
hoping
to
you
know
come
back
together
and
you
know
it's
it's
a
little
strange
to
come
back
in
the
office
all
together,
but
but
strange
in
a
good
way.
B
I'm
glad
I'm
glad
that's
that
it's
happening
so
we're
we're
doing
that
and
and
two
they've
had
they
went
through
re-registration,
laurie
and
danita
did
emily
had
to
do
all
the
candidate
and
legislative
filings
in
february
and
and
all
that
was
kind
of
a
you
know,
all
together
all
hands
on
deck
kind
of
thing
for
for
them
and
and
they
just
did
a
great
job
and
and
again
we-
you
know,
amidst
you
know
everything
else
going
on
the
sessions
we
had
the
highest
number
of
employers
register.
B
Actually,
so
you
know
a
lot
a
lot
more.
You
know
people
to
deal
with
and
and
making
sure
that
everything
goes
goes
the
way
it
should.
So
that's
that's
great.
Turning
to
the
budget,
we've
got
tom
tom.
Hampton
has
put
the
budget
in
there
for
for
us,
for
you
all
the
financial
statement
and
then
behind
it
and
actually
and
well
the
financial
statement
he
said
everything
is
everything
is
good,
just
going
like
it
like
it
should
behind.
B
That
is
a
copy
of
the
legislative
budget
as
passed
by
the
general
assembly
and,
of
course,
that's
our
budget.
So
tom
worked
with
lrc
staff
and
you
know
knock
on
wood.
It's
it's
all!
It's
always!
You
know
fine,
I
mean
they.
You
know,
everybody
else
gets
all
exercised
about
the
other
budgets
and
then
ours,
ours
gets
done,
which
is
great.
B
If
you
look
in
there,
you'll
notice
that
there's
a
salary
adjustment
provided
for
legislative
research,
commission
staff,
which
will
be
the
same
as
the
executive
branch
staff
and
that's
that-
will
be
eight
percent
in
the
upcoming
fiscal
year.
So
that's
for
that
first
fiscal
year.
Well,
since
since
it
says
lrc
staff,
we're
not
technically
that
we
are
we're
independent,
but
we're
also
a
legislative
agency,
but
what
we
usually
do
or
what
the
practice
has
been.
Is
that
for
things
like
that,
we
follow
what
they
do
for
lrc
staff.
B
So
and
if
you
all
agree-
and
you
want
to
also
give
offer
us
that
8,
the
commission
would
need
to
approve
a
motion
to
provide
that
eight
percent
starting
july
one
and
again
that's
going
to
be
this.
So
that
would
put
us,
as
I
mean
the
same
as
the
legislative
branch,
the
lrc
staff,
the
executive
branch
staff
and
then
judicial
staff.
Although
they
all
judicial
branch
staff,
also
get
a
two
thousand
dollar
one-time
increase
and
then
the
eight
percent
for
that
upcoming
fiscal
year.
So.
A
That
is
appropriate
and
there's
a
second.
We
have
a
great
opportunity
and
to
reward
our
staff,
we
have
a
great
staff
and
anytime
they
talk
about
a
raise.
Then
we
want
to
raise
our
hand,
so
we're
going
to
be
there
if
you
all
vote
for
this.
A
Are
there
any
questions
or
concerns
or
debate,
not
all
who
favor
the
motion
to
ex
extend
an
eight
percent
raise
to
our
staff
based
on
the
budget,
all
all
those
two
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye,
all
those
supposed?
No,
yes,
and
can
I
get
along.
B
Well,
mine's
already
taken
up
via
inflation,
so
yeah
yeah
and
talk,
and
in
the
second
year
of
the
budget.
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
this
too,
so
the
executive
branch
is
which
again,
the
legislative
usually
follows.
The
second
year
of
the
budget
second
fiscal
year,
they'll
be
in
an
additional
adjustment
based
on
a
classification
and
compensation
study,
at
least
for
the
executive
branch.
So
it's
an
undetermined
number,
since
you
all
have
set
up
a
salary
committee
that
meets
usually
in
september
again
that
that
would
seem
to
be.
B
You
know
that
same
process.
If
you
all
decide
to
do
that-
and
I
know
you
are
looking
at
comparisons
at
that
time.
Of
course-
you're
free
to
free
to
do
that,
and-
and
also
when
you
know
it
will
actually
be
helpful
for
us,
because
I
think
I
think
the
executive
branch
study
is
supposed
to
be
done
in
like
this
july.
B
So
that'll
also
give
some
figures.
You
know
that
they
could
be
helpful
when
that
when
that
committee
looks
at
it
so
but
but
you
all
don't
have
to
take
any
any
action
on
that
second
fiscal
year.
But
you
know
we'll
put
it
on
your
radar
screen.
The
only
thing
is,
you
may
want
to
think
about
it
right
now.
It
you
all
were
doing
the
recommendations
in
september
and
it
might
be
good
to
get
it
on
the
same
fiscal
year.
Tom
hampton
and
I
had
a
some
talk
about
that.
B
But
that's
you
know
another.
We
we
need
to
talk
about
that,
a
little
bit
more
to
bring
you
all
a
recommendation
on
on
the
timing,
at
least
but
anyway.
So
I
think
on
the
budget
part.
Oh
chair
nicholas,
did
you
want
to
do
a
motion
to
just
accept
the
report?
I
kind
of
skipped
over
that.
A
You've
seen
the
financial
report
is
there
a
motion
that
we
approved
so
moved?
Second,
all
those
who
favor
the
motion
signified
by
saying
aye.
C
B
Association
of
governmental
accountants,
and
so
that
on
ethics,
so
that'll
that'll
be
good.
Let's
see
turning
to
legislation
again,
moral
legislation
today
is
the
last
veto
day
and,
as
you
know,
the
general
assembly
will
come
back
for
its
last
two
days
on
wednesday
and
thursday
of
this
week.
B
First,
the
commission's
bill
on
sexual
harassment,
which
was
house
bill,
6
603,
was
really
a
no-go
this
time,
I
think,
with
between
the
budget
and
some
other
really
high-profile,
well,
several
high-profile
things.
I
think
it
just
kind
of
got.
You
know,
I
think
they
got
bogged
down
on
all
those
other
things,
and
you
know
so
in
the
in
the
short
session
again
I'll,
try
to
talk
with
them.
Some
more.
You
know,
they've
also
done
this.
This
rules
change
where
they
don't
automatically
send
things
to.
B
They
don't
refer
to
committees
automatically
like
they
used
to
you
know
or
within
three
or
five
days,
so
it
didn't,
it
didn't
even
go
to
committee.
I
I
tried
to
talk
with
the
the
chair
about
that,
but
they
you
know,
I
think
they
had
a
lot
of
heavy
lifting.
So
you
know
again
we'll
just
we'll
just
try
again,
let's
see
the
second
item,
how
this
house
bill
740,
which
was
a
a
file,
a
campaign
finance
filing
bill,
changing
how
many
times
they
they
have
to
file
candidates
have
to
file
their
campaign.
B
Finance
disclosures
at
the
the
last
minute
is
sometimes
this
happens.
There
was
a
provision
put
in
that
would
allow
well
would
take
out
the
prohibition
against
legislators
receiving
pac
and
employer
donations
during
the
session,
but
only
for
those
legislative
members
who
are
also
statewide
candidates,
so
you
know
for
their
candidacy
candidacy.
For
that
you
know
the
the
pack
and
the
employer
just
for
some
history,
the
the
pac
and
employer
provisions.
B
You
know
saying
you
couldn't
give
those
during
the
session
that
was
passed
pretty
recently
in
2014,
along
with
the
no
cup
of
coffee
provisions.
You
know
I
I
spoke
with
the
council
for
the
senate
president.
You
know
just
to
say
you
know
it's,
it's
kind
of
a
it's
kind
of
a
step
backwards,
but
you
know
it's
it's
their
policy
choice.
I
mean.
The
only
thing
I
pointed
out
to
him
was
that
it
it's
well.
B
B
Of
course,
you
know
with
the
super
majority:
it's
probably
it's
highly
probable
that
that
will
get
overridden,
but
so
that's
that,
that's
that
one
and
it
should,
since
it's
not
it's,
not
all
legislators
or
all
candidates,
it's
statewide
ones.
It
will
have
a
smaller
effect,
but
still
that's
that
and
they
you
know
that
they
didn't
contact
us
just
for
full
disclosure.
So
anyway,
the
next
bill
I
want
we
wanted
to
bring
your
attention,
is
senate
bill
63
and
that
that's
a
an
open
records
provision
and
it
might
it
it's.
B
It
would
prevent
information
on
former
law
enforcement.
Former
judges,
folks,
like
that
from
having
information
on
their
addresses
and
other
personal
information,
disclosed
it's
a
little
bit
unclear
as
to
whether
or
not
that
applies
to
us,
as
we
do
have
a
specific
requirement
in
the
code
that
that
says
that
this
information
on
candidates
and
legislators
shall
be
made
public.
B
But
anyway,
it
is.
It's
posted
in
the
house
orders
of
the
day
for
the
last
two
days
of
the
session,
and,
of
course
they
can.
They
could
still
take
action
on
that
if
they
wish
to.
B
But
of
course
that
would
not
be
veto
proof,
since
you
know,
since
they'll
be
gone
in
the
on
the
14th
and
again,
the
only
other
one.
I
wanted
to
point
out
to
you
all
is
house
bill
453,
which
actually
is
a
good
bill
for
open
meetings
and
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
it
and
seeing
you
know
if
we
have
to
change
any
of
our
our
processes,
but
it
does
make
it
a
lot
more
flexible
in
terms
of
using
virtual
options,
which,
obviously
we
we
hope
we
can
still
continue.
B
You
know
for
people
who
who
can
who
want
to
you
know
zoom
in,
although
I
think
what
we
want
to
do
is
is
go
back
to
at
least
the
staff
being
in
the
annex
for
the
for
the
meetings
you
know
again.
Subject
to
you
know
things
things
that
might
happen.
It
is
really
good
that
now
that
we're
all
comfortable
with
with
you
know
virtual
technology,
although
I
don't
know
how
it
works,
I
don't
want
to
know
how
it
works,
but
when
it
does
work,
it's
pretty
it's
pretty
good.
B
So
anyway,
and
that's
that's
pretty
much
that
on
the
on
the
ledges
on
the
legislation
front,
does
anybody
have
any
any
questions
or
no
okay,
good
and
then,
of
course,
we've
got
all
of
our
informals
in
there
and
then
a
packet
from
last
time
so
sorry
to
overwhelm
you
with
all
all
the
paper?
But
you
know
again,
we
just
want
you
to
know.
B
You
know
what
the
what
the
questions
are
and
and
two.
If,
if
we're,
you
know
going
astray
or
running
amok,
as
my
mom
used
to
say,
please,
you
know
call
us
and
say
you
know,
I
don't.
I
don't
understand
why
you
why
you,
you
know,
wrote
it
that
way
or
or
just
you
know,
explain
to
me
so
happy
happy
to
do
that,
but
you
know
of
course,
lots
to
do
with.
B
Can
you
know
campaigns
are
going
to
happen
this
year
for
the
legislature
and-
and
you
know
trying
to
get
people
registered
that
might
might
not
have
been
properly
registered
and
things
like
that,
so
so
that's
pretty
much.
B
C
C
C
C
That's
curious,
okay,
great
and
if
I
buy
that
also
sure
yeah,
we
all
don't
know
individuals
who
are
in
the
process
of
re-election
or
seeking
office.
Can
we
talk
to
and
they
call
can
we
offer
advice
or
I
mean,
what's
the
restriction
opinion?
C
C
B
It
could
be,
but
I'd
really
like
to
go
back,
and
you
know
and
look
at
some
of
the
opinions
to
give
you
a
yeah,
a
definitive
statement
on
that.
C
A
It's
actually
I
I
used
it
as
a
convenient
way
to
get
around
being
involved
in
someone's
candidacy.
A
When
I
told
them
that
I
was
a
member
of
the
legislative
ethics
commission
and
I
could
I
wouldn't
want
to
show
any
kind
of
favoritism
or
that
sort
of
thing,
I
don't
have
any
idea
if
that
was
right
according
to
the
law,
but
it
helped
me
get
out
of
a
bad
situation.
So
I
used
it
and.
C
It
worked
out
when
I
saw
that
opinion
the
interpretation
of
a
prior
opinion.
It
made
me
pause
because
I
and
people
that
I
could
not
make
a
contribution.
It
was
prohibited
by
our
code,
and
I
wanted
to
be
a
good
commissioner.
B
Okay-
that's
all
that's
all!
I
have
on
that.
If
we
want
to
do
go
to
executive
session,
unless
anybody
has
a
something
else,
then.
A
Okay,
pursuant
to
krs.
A
A
Okay,
motion
made
and
seconded
and
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying,
aye
aye
I'll,
oppose
no.