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A
A
Here,
let's
make
sure
our
phones
are
on
mute
and
make
sure
that
your
green
light
is
on
when
you're
speaking,
committee,
members
and
guests,
anybody
like
to
introduce
a
special
guest
representative
Raymond.
Yes,.
C
A
Every
math
major
needs
a
hand.
That's
for
sure
thank
you
for
studying,
math
all
right,
so
House,
Bill
174
is
our
only
bill.
So
sponsor
police
front
and
center
floor
is
yours.
D
D
So
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
come
for
the
committee
today,
I'd
like
to
say
to
the
committee
and
all
those
that
are
here
welcome
to
Frankfurt
near
the
end
of
session.
So
things
are
just
a
little
bit
hectic
right
now.
People
are
in
all
types
of
committees
going
on
throughout
the
building,
and
so
we've
all
been
jumping
back
and
forth
and
with
all
that
that
is
going
on.
I
I
want
to
say
that
this
is
an
absolute
extremely
important
day
for
us
for
Kentucky
to
present
this
bill.
D
D
The
Supreme
Court's
decision
that
was
made
striking
down
the
educational
opportunity
accounts
that
we
have
passed
as
a
legislature
took
a
punitive
approach
to
families,
simply
wanting
more
options
for
their
children
and
even
worse,
this
striking
down
of
of
this
and
and
the
what
they
had
determined
in
regard
to
the
decision
that
they
made
actually
throws
into
doubt
some
other
programs
that
are
currently
being
used
by
families
throughout
the
state
and
non-public
public
schools
and
then
some
of
the
bus
transportation
that
we
are
actually
doing
and
funding
right
now
they
end
up
four
non-public
schools,
and
the
takes
of
the
bill
is
really
simple.
D
D
I've
been
proud
to
have
been
a
part
of
giving
some
historic
funding
increases
to
the
public
school
system
being
a
part
of
full
day,
kindergarten
funding
for
schools
across
Kentucky,
and
so,
while
we
are
working
in
these
areas
of
public
education,
I
think
it's
also
important
that
we
have
a
mindset
shift,
and
that
is
what
has
been
taking
place
in
Kentucky
across
parents
and
voters
as
well
as
legislatures
the
legislature,
and
that
is
this
shift
that
we
are
going
to
put
students.
First,
we
have
funded
systems,
we
have
funded
structures.
D
All
of
those
things
are
necessary.
They
have
to
be
in
place,
but
students
are
really
what
it's
all
about.
We
can
have
the
best
buildings.
We
can
have
a
lot
of
the
best
systems
out
there
in
place,
but
the
if
we,
if
we
are
not
meeting
the
need
of
every
student
throughout
the
state,
we're
doing
a
disservice
to
the
kids
and
that's
really
what
this
piece
of
legislation
is
about.
D
One
of
the
things
that
has
been
brought
up
often
in
regard
to
this
particular
issue
is
that
if
we
had
school
choice,
we
would
be
more
or
less
kind
of,
because
Public
Schools
seem
to
be
required
to
take
these
kids,
no
matter
what
their
problems
are
and
what
their
situations
are
and
that
we
will
be
leaving
those
students
in
those
schools
and
and
others
kids
will
be
going
to
other
different
types
of
opportunities,
but
I
would
argue
that
it
does
just
the
opposite.
D
Edge
educational
Choice
continues
to
sweep
Across
the
Nation.
Every
state
surrounding
the
state
of
Kentucky
has
tight
some
type
of
educational
choice
for
the
parents
and
for
the
children,
and
it
seems
like
right
now
every
week
that
we're
seeing
something
in
the
news
where
other
states
are
doing
something
and
allowing
parents
to
have
choice
for
their
children
and
again
I
would
say
Mr
chairman.
This
is
not
an
either
or
this
is
in
addition
to.
D
We
have
kids
that
have
needs
and
we
want
to
meet
the
needs
of
every
child
in
Kentucky,
and
that's
really
what
this
is
amendment.
What
this
amendment
is
about.
So
with
that
being
said,
I
would
like
to
miss
akiah
to
speak
just
a
little
bit
about
her
concerns,
as
well
as
her
passion
for
this
she's
been
a
great
advocate
for
this
when
it
was
wasn't
popular
and
when
it's
become
more
popular
from
the
pole,
standing
and
Mr
vandeville
will
talk
about
that.
F
Mr,
chairman
and
members
of
the
committee,
thank
you
for
considering
this
important
amendment
that
would
change
the
lives
of
thousands
of
children
in
Kentucky.
My
name
is
Akia
mcneary
I'm,
a
mother
of
three
school-aged
children.
My
family
is
a
perfect,
perfect
example
that
why
one
size
fit
all
doesn't
work
for
every
family.
Two
of
my
children
attend
private
school
and
the
other
attends
Public
School.
F
F
because
it
would
have
been
a
enormous
help,
but
unfortunately,
opponents
file
a
lawsuit
to
stop
it.
The
Kentucky
Supreme
Court
decided
in
last
December,
was
a
huge
blow
to
parents
like
myself,
but
I
am
not
going
to
give
up
because
our
children
deserve
this.
I
am
here
today
to
ask
you
to
help
each
student
in
Kentucky
that
all
deserves
the
education
that
best
fits
their
needs.
You
can
help
make
this
a
reality.
Bypassing
house
bill,
174.
E
Mr,
chairman
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
Andrew
Vandiver
and
I
serve
as
the
president
of
the
choice
Kentucky
coalition.
When
the
Kentucky
Supreme
Court
struck
down
the
education
opportunity
account
act
just
this
past
December.
We
knew
we
only
have
one
option
going
forward
and
that
was
to
pass
the
Constitutional
Amendment
and
so
one
houseboat
174
is
a
step
towards
giving
thousands
of
students
the
opportunities
they're
going
to
need
to
succeed
in
the
classroom.
E
E
D
Thank
Mr
chairman
with
that
being
said,
we're
open
for
any
questions
that
committee
members
might
have.
A
We
have
two
members
that
have
questions:
do
you
want
to
wait
till
it's
over
represent
Moser
and
Raymond,
or
do
you
want
to
talk
now
or
ask
now
Josie.
A
Well,
we
have
four
four
more
people
to
speak
on
it.
Yes,
go
ahead,.
C
Representative
Callaway
I
wanted
to
read
the
language
that
would
be
on
the
ballot
and
ask
you
a
question
about
it.
So
in
the
bill
right,
it
says
the
language
that
would
be
on
the
ballot
that
voters
would
vote
on
and
the
first
opportunity
we
would
have
to
do
that
would
be
in
2024.
It
says
the
general
assembly
May
provide
for
the
educational
costs
of
students
outside
of
the
system
of
common
schools.
C
Sections
183,
184,
186
and
189
of
this
constitution
shall
not
prevent
any
provision
for
educational
costs
of
students
outside
of
the
system
of
common
schools,
nor
require
a
referendum
for
any
such
provision
for
educational
costs.
So
long
as
no
funds
are
used
from
the
common
School
fund,
we
don't
know
what
that
means.
Do
you
think
the
average
voter
will
understand
that
on
their
ballot.
D
So
you
have
their
specific
things
that
were
required
to
put
on
there,
and
if
someone
has
a
question,
they
can
research
that
out
and-
and
if
you
have
anything
that
that
you
would
add
to
that
as
well.
Well,.
E
E
As
far
as
your
average
lower
goes,
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
Education,
that's
going
to
go
into
next
year
as
far
as
letting
them
know
exactly
what
the
amendment
does
and
how
it's
going
to
help
them,
but
I
think
in
terms
just
that
first
sentence,
you
know
if
you're
outside
the
system
of
common
schools,
common
source,
schools
means
Public,
Schools
you're
going
to
receive
support.
The
legislature
can
offer
you
support
and
that's
that's
the
Crux
of
it.
C
I,
don't
know
that
the
average
voter
knows
that
common
schools
means
Public.
Schools
may
I
ask
a
follow-up
question
please.
So
we
we
know
from
previous
debate
and
research
that
if
Kentucky
were
to
start
opening
Charter
Schools,
they
would
primarily
open
in
large
cities.
Lexington
Louisville,
Northern
Kentucky.
C
So
in
your
area,
I,
don't
know
that
there's
going
to
be
Charter
networks,
locating
in
your
area.
So
do
you
believe
with
a
measure
like
this,
that
Kentucky
tax
dollars
should
pay
for
kids
to
go
to
religious
schools.
D
So
this
amendment
absolutely
doesn't
do
anything
of
that
sort.
What
this
amendment
does
is
it
allows
the
legislature
to
have
the
opportunity
to
put
a
some
type
of
school
choice
program
in
place.
This
is
not
allowing
for
Charter
Schools
per
se
and
a
program.
This
is
not
allowing
for
Christian
Schools
private
schools,
religious
schools
as
a
program
that
is
a
discussion
that
we'll
have
a
at
a
later
date.
The
Supreme
Court
said
that
we
could
not
make
a
law
that
allowed
for
educational
opportunities
for
students
outside
of
the
public
common
school
system.
D
That
was
the
ruling
that
they
came
back
to
us
and
basically
said.
If
you
want
to
have
a
school
choice
program,
you
have
to
change
your
Constitution
and
what
I'm
trying
to
do
is
to
assert
the
legislature
to
say
we
make
the
laws
we're
making
this
determination
and
we're
going
to
change
the
Constitution
and
allow
us
to
have
the
conversation
and
be
able
to
develop
programs
that
will
best
suit
kids
in
Kentucky.
C
E
I
do
want
to
make
a
I'll
answer
your
question,
but
charter
schools
are
different
than
what
this
proposes.
Charter.
Schools
are
foreign
public
school,
that's
been
litigation
now
it's
a
completely
separate
issue
in
terms
of
what
I
would
like
to
see
I'd
like
to
see
Kentucky
trust
parents
and
support
parents,
regardless
of
where
their
kids
go,
and
that
include
include
religious
schools
that
include
non-religious
schools
right
now.
The
status
quo
at
Kentucky
Supreme
Court
is
once
your
child
steps
out
of
a
public
school.
They
receive
no
support.
E
They
can't
receive
any
support
that
raises
a
lot
of
problems.
I
think
it's
unfair
you've
seen
non-public
school
enrollment
increased
by
over
25
000
kids
in
Kentucky
in
the
last
two
years.
Those
families
deserve
support
just
as
much
as
any
other
kids,
and
we
should
also
support
public
school
students.
We
can
do
both.
F
Thank
you
can
I
say
something:
yes,
so
it's
not
so!
For
my
kids,
I
have
kids
with
attention
deficit
disorder
I
place
them
into
the
public
school
setting.
He
went
to
private
school.
Then
he
went
to
public
school.
He
didn't
thrive
in
public
school,
so
I
had
to
make
a
financial
hardship
choice
and
place
them
back
into
private
school,
because
the
classroom
size
of
nine
worked
better
for
him
than
the
classroom
size
of
20.
I'm,
asking
just
so
that
myself
and
parents
like
myself,
can
have
a
choice
to
put
them
in
the
best
education
possible.
F
G
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
for
your
presentation.
This
is
a
very
complex
I.
Believe
a
conversation
to
have
I
am
someone
who
is
a
supporter
of
our
public
school
system.
I
am
a
product
of
public
schools,
but
I
also
am
aware
of
situations
as
yours,
as
Public
Schools
doesn't
work
for
all
students.
G
I
currently
have
a
niece
and
a
nephew
who
were
not
thriving
in
public
school
and
we
as
a
family
are
doing
our
best
to
pay
for
private
tuition
right
now,
and
they
are
doing
better
so
I
get
an
understand
that
I.
Think.
For
me,
my
biggest
concern
is:
is
that
if
we
go
down
this
route
of
even
making
it
a
possibility
to
open
this
up,
what
does
this
mean
for
our
overall
Public
School
System
I.
G
Think
that
when
you
look
at
historically
what
has
happened
around
the
nation
as
it
relates
to
schools,
choice
of
programs
or
charter
schools
that
there
has
also
been
a
lot
of
disparities
as
far
as
which
schools
will
take
certain
students.
G
G
Did
did
you
mention
what
the
percentage
of
Democrats
what
that
support
was
I?
Think
I
heard
you
say:
independence.
E
I
can
look
that
up
I
haven't
hearing
from
me
for
Democrats
it
it's
a
little
bit
more
mixed.
It's
31
support,
53,
post
16
undecided.
E
So
obviously
we
got
some
work
to
do.
I
will
say
as
far
as
Democrat
Republican
issues
before
this
legislature,
flipped
Republican,
we
had
10
Democrat
co-sponsors
on
the
bill
as
a
democratic
bill
in
the
house
filed
by
representative
Tommy
Thompson
out
of
Western
Kentucky,
we
had
Louisville
Representatives
co-sponsoring
the
bill
and
you
know:
there's
Governors
like
Governor
Shapiro
and
Pennsylvania
who's,
a
big
school
choice
Champion.
So
it's
it's
really
a
bipartisan
issue.
Senator
Cory
Booker's
been
a
champion.
Senator
Dianne
Feinstein
we'd
like
to
see
more
democratic
support.
E
We'll
always
keep
fighting
for
that
support,
but
that's
where
it
stands
right
now.
G
Thank
you,
chairman
I've
got
another
question
go
ahead,
so
the
other
question
I
have
is
that
it
seems
like
that.
This
is
a
route
that
we're
probably
going
to
end
up
going
down
and
I
know.
Representative
Callaway,
you
talked
about
that
this
piece
of
legislation
itself
just
puts
this
issue
on
the
ballot,
but
my
question
is:
have
you
all
done
any
thoughts
or
look
down
the
road
as
far
as
once
we
open
this
can
of
worms?
Is
what
I'll
call
it
once
we
open
it?
G
What
are
what
is
the
potential,
and
what
does
it
look
like
for
our
Public
School
System,
as
it
relates
to
funding
and
I
know
that
there's
a
couple
of
different
options,
and
so
I'm
I
I.
Think
again,
my
concern
is
is
if
we
take
kids
out
of
public
schools,
does
that
does
that
money?
Will
that
money
follow
that
student
and
then,
what's
just
going
to
happen
to
our
public
school
system,.
D
Thanks
for
that
question,
I
think
that's
going
to
be
a
decision
for
the
legislature,
so
once
this
would
pass
and
the
public
would
weigh
in
on
this
and
allow
us
the
opportunity
to
change
the
Constitution,
then
that
will
be
up
to
the
legislature
to
to
decide
at
that
time
what
this
program
would
look
like
and
how
far
it
would
go.
You
look
at
what
we
did
with
House
Bill
563
there's
an
option,
but
I
think
it
will
be.
D
The
legislature
as
a
whole
would
determine
what
that
would
look
like
I
will
tell
you
from
my
perspective.
This
is
what
I'm
committed
to
I'm
committed
to
voting
to
make
sure,
there's
funding
to
fund
every
child
to
be
educated
in
the
state
of
Kentucky
as
to
the
best
that
they
can
be
educated.
So
that's
the
commitment
that
I
make
coming
into
this
is
that
I
will
always
vote
to
make
sure
that
every
child
has
the
funding
necessary
to
be
educated
in
the
state
of
Kentucky
Mr.
D
E
So
I
know
this
is
a
big
concern
as
far
as
change
goes
and
it's
it's
a
valid
concern.
We
want
to
make
sure
our
public
school
students
continue
to
thrive
and
get
the
support
they
need.
When
you
look
at
states
that
have
educational
Choice
policies
by
and
large,
every
study
has
shown
or
practically
every
state
has
shown,
that
public
school
students
are
doing
better
in
those
States.
So
when
you
look
at
Florida's
had
strong
bipartisan
support
for
school
choice,
you
know
every
time
a
school
choice
proposal
has
been
put
out
there.
E
It's
had
a
strong
bipartisan
support
from
both
parties
and
that's
because
public
and
private
school
students
are
thriving
in
Florida,
no
matter
how
you
measure
it.
Outcomes
have
increased
for
students
with
special
needs,
students
of
color,
low-income
students.
They
have
all
seen
improvements
in
their
academic
outcomes.
When
you
look
at
states
that
have
had
the
largest
school
choice,
programs
and
the
longest
serving
students
in
those
States,
Arizona
Ohio,
Florida,
Pennsylvania
and
I'm
going
to
leave
out
Indiana.
E
A
We
have
some
up
people
that
have
signed
up
to
speak
Karen
Guffey.
Please
come
forward.
H
Thanks
I'm
in
84
Kentuckian,
my
mother,
who
just
turned
97
last
week,
is
a
retired
teacher
very
strongly
grew
up
in
ants
in
Laurel
County
that
were
teachers
and
I
very
strongly
believe
in
our
Public
Schools
I'm
very
concerned
about
this
bill.
I'm
very
concerned
about.
We
have
not
looked
at
the
data
of
States
like
Missouri
or
Oklahoma
that
have
starved
their
public
education
schools
in
Missouri.
They
now
have
four
day
week,
education
because
they
can't
afford
to
run
their
buses.
Their
schools
are
hurting,
their
schools
are
falling
apart.
All
because
of
choice.
H
Now
I
do
think,
there's
a
good
time
to
have
Choice
like
what
kind
of
pizza
you
want.
What
kind
of
Pies
you
want,
but
I'll
tell
you
when
it
comes
to
education
in
Kentucky,
I
think
we
need
to
support
our
Public
Schools
right
at
this
time.
My
daughter
is
teaching
seventh
grade.
Algebra
loves
it.
You
want
to
keep
people
like
her.
She
was
a
governor
scholar
from
our
state.
We
have
so
many
teachers
that
are
right
now
teaching
all
across
our
state
and
we
need
to
be
supporting
them.
We
don't
need
to
be
dividing
up.
H
The
limited
pool
of
money
and
I
know
that
this
legislature
has
given
more
money.
That's
because
the
costs
have
gone
up.
There
are
costs
of
running
buses.
There
are
costs
to
having
teachers,
their
cost
of
getting
more
education
and,
as
a
state
I.
Don't
think
we
need
to
divide
that
up.
In
my
County
we
have
magnet
schools.
If
you
want
your
child
to
go
to
steam
Academy,
you
sign
up
for
it.
If
you
want
your
child
to
go
to
learn
different
languages,
you
sign
up
for
it.
H
I
wish
every
County
in
Kentucky
had
that
option
and
I.
Don't
understand
why
we
aren't
looking
at
that.
We
need
to
be
positive,
I
want
you
to
think
about
it.
We
have
one
of
the
best
commissioners
of
education
and
a
great
state
board
of
education.
My
husband
grew
up
in
one
in
Clinton,
County,
one-room,
schoolhouse
didn't
have
the
best
opportunities
back
then,
and
when
he
went
to
UK
as
an
engineering
student,
he
was
really
really
scared
and
really
worried.
H
He
had
a
great
engineering,
Professor
Lee
taught,
who
went
on
to
become
a
University
of
Kentucky
press
College
president
he's
on
the
State
Board
of
Education.
You
have
some
outstanding
people,
you
need
to
look
at
them
and
if
you
have
not
looked
at
as
a
legislator,
if
you
have
not
looked
at
the
high
standards
that
are
of
our
state
curriculum,
you
need
to
look
at
that.
It's
easy
to
access!
Any
parent
can
access
that.
H
But
can
you
say
that,
for
some
of
the
school
private
schools
that
you're
talking
about
wanting
to
go
to,
where
is
their
accountability
in
our
Public
Schools?
You
have
site-based
councils.
They
are
your
level
of
accountability.
You
have
you
have
most
of
us
have
wonderful
Boards
of
Education,
and
you
know
what
we
need
to
be
supporting
them.
We
do
not
need
to
be
dividing
this
money
up
and
I
want
to
talk
about
the
realities
of
small
schools.
H
When
my
husband,
I,
blended
our
family,
my
stepson
was
going
to
a
small
school
classroom
of
eight
turns
out.
He
was
not
doing
well
at
all
in
fourth
by
fourth
grade.
He
was
not
learning
well,
I
looked
at
their
curriculum
or
what
they
said
was
curriculum.
It
was
horrible
and
the
teachers
were
not
certified
teachers.
What
accountability
do
you
have?
As
you
look
at
this
for
choice
in
the
public
schools,
you
better
believe,
there's
accountability.
My
lesson
plans
had
to
really
match
the
standards
and
I
want
you
to
look
at.
H
Why
are
we
not
enthusiastic
and
excited
about
our
Public
Schools?
What
are
we
doing
our
state
and
why
shouldn't
we
be
number
one
in
education?
We
really
should
be
our
Public
Schools
should
be
our
pride
and
joy.
We
shouldn't
just
be
happy
about
our
sports
teams.
Although
I'm
a
sports
fan,
we
need
to
be
proud
of
our
public
schools
and
our
Public
School
teachers
need
to
hear
from
you
our
superintendents
need
to
feel
you're
behind
them,
and
we
need
to
feel
that
you're
not
dividing
up
the
resources
they
need.
Thank
you.
A
We
have
50.
15
minutes
to
finish
this,
so
go
ahead.
I
I
promise
you
I
will
not
take
15
minutes,
sir
good
morning,
I'm
Chuck
Eddy
I'm,
a
proud
K-12
graduate
of
public
schools.
The
lead
sponsor
representative
Josh
Callaway
says
this
is
an
extremely
important
bill,
and
yet
it
is
only
now
being
brought
forward
for
consideration
on
the
26th
day
of
a
30-day
session.
I
I
These
are
what
has
allowed
the
U.S
to
flourish.
As
a
nation,
there
have
been
many
efforts
to
get
us
Kentucky
taxpayers,
to
pay
for
private
schools.
They
have
been
consistently
ruled
unconstitutional
why
our
Kentucky
constitutions
currently
states
its
responsibility
to
Commonwealth,
to
provide
for
a
system
of
common
schools
to
educate
our
citizens.
Only
common
schools,
Kentucky
is
36
out
of
50
states.
I
An
expenditure
per
public
school
student
Kentucky
actually
spends
less
today
per
public
school
student
than
we
did
in
2008
when
adjusted
for
inflation,
and
this
is
in
spite
of
the
increased
costs
that
Miss
Guffey
just
mentioned.
So
today
we
see
the
effort
to
change
the
Kentucky
Constitution
so
that
Kentucky
tax
dollars
can
be
used
for
private
school
students
with
no
limitations.
I
I
I
There
can
be
a
private
school
fund
as
well,
but
it
will,
as
a
matter
of
course,
reduce
the
total
tax
dollars
available,
thereby
reducing
tax
dollars
for
public
schools.
I
see
supporters
wearing
their
yellow
scarves,
showing
your
support
for
using
public
tax
money.
Our
public
tax
money
for
private
schools
do
not
change
Kentucky's
commitment
to
public
education.
A
Ikea
McNary,
oh
I'm,
sorry
and
yeah
he's
over
the
top.
The
Kea
rep
I
can't
read
your
Mary.
J
J
Section
183
requires
you
to
establish
an
assistant,
an
efficient
system
of
common
schools,
section
184
talks
about
the
common
School
fund
and
requires
a
referendum
to
be
so.
The
question
is
put
to
the
citizens
if
the
school
funds
are
to
be
used
for
any
other
purpose,
sections
186
and
189
essentially
require
that
tax
dollars
be
used
for
public
schools
only
and
prohibits
its
use
for
sectarian,
denominational
or
religious
schools.
J
For
the
proponents
of
this
bill
to
say
that
all
it's
going
to
do
is
create
choice
is
disingenuous
by
nullifying
those
four
sections
of
the
Constitution.
It
opens
up
a
wide
Ray
of
legislative
options
that
the
founders
of
Kentucky
and
the
citizens
of
Kentucky
do
not
currently
contemplate
the
much
discussed
decision
by
the
Kentucky
Supreme
Court
said
two
things:
one
that
tax
credits
are
in
fact
public
Revenue.
J
It
also
said
that
the
scheme
that
was
put
forward
was
unconstitutional
because
it
was
not
put
to
the
people
it
was
based
on.
The
decision
was
based
on
section
184
that
requires
a
referendum
if
the
proponents
of
school
choice
are
so
confident
that
that's
what
the
people
of
Kentucky
want.
There
is
a
currently
a
constitutional
fix
for
this
without
making
changes
to
the
Constitution,
and
it
is
simply
to
put
the
question
to
a
referendum
of
the
people.
This
is
unnecessary.
J
It
is
wide-ranging,
it
is
Extreme
and
in
response
to
that
decision,
all
that's
required
is
a
referendum
to
the
citizens
of
Kentucky.
If
you
have
confidence
in
them,
if
you
believe
that
they
support
your
cause,
give
them
the
chance
to
say
that,
but
by
by
implementing
this
change
in
the
Kentucky
Constitution,
you
are
taking
away
the
voice
of
the
citizens
of
Kentucky,
who
should
be
able
to
vote
on
a
referendum
on
that
issue.
A
All
right
round
up
the
votes
they
there's
two
people
in
other
committees
said
they
wanted
to
vote
on
this.
They
got
about
five
minutes
to
get
here.
So
we'll
stand
at
ease
of
five
minutes.
If
they're
not
here,.
B
G
A
G
As
I
said,
this
issue
is
very
complex
and
there's
a
lot.
I
know
that
in
in
Jefferson
County
there
are
some
schools
that
don't
even
have
an
activity,
bus
or
a
bus
to
allow
kids
to
participate
in
after
school
activities
and
get
a
home
and
I'm
just
very
concerned
about.
G
G
Today,
I
am
going
to
be
a
no
vote,
but
I
do
think
that
we
do
need
to
figure
out
ways
to
not
only
make
sure
that
our
public
education
system
is
funded
but
then
also
find
some
options
for
families.
Thank
you.
A
C
A
Yes
and
I'd
like
to
explain
my
vote.
You
know
this.
This
issue
has
been
around
in
some
form
or
fashion
for
many
years
and
I
just
keep
wondering
who
gave
Kentucky
this
great
idea
that
they're
the
only
state
in
this
whole
region
that
has
zero
Charter
Schools
when
every
one
of
our
surrounding
schools
has,
over
a
hundred
last
time,
I
checked
every
single
one.
A
Many
border
states
have
quite
a
few
private
schools
that
that
thrive
and
Kentucky's
at
zero
zero.
Not
on
all
of
this
and
where
in
the
world
do
we
get?
Where
did
where
did
we
Corner
the
market
on
such
intelligence?
I
mean?
Is
our
schools
that
great
public
schools
that
you'd
want
to
make
a
stand
that
you
can't
make
one
change
towards
privatization
is
that
is
that,
where
we're
at
this,
this
is
a
good
bill
and
let
the
people
decide
it's
not
a
scam.
A
A
What
was
it
eight
votes?
Yes,
how
many
know
five
knows
the
bill
passes.
A
favorable
expression.
Do
I
hear
a
motion
to
adjourn
we're
adjourned.