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A
I
need
to
order.
I
would
remind
all
members
to
please
silence
your
cell
phones.
I
would
advise
any
guests
if
you
wish
to
speak
on
any
of
the
bills.
There
is
a
sign
up
sheet
in
the
back.
Additional
testimony
is
at
the
discretion
of
the
chair,
based
on
time
restraints
and
information
already
presented
and
just
a
reminder.
There
are
no
signs
permitted
in
the
committee
room,
so
any
members
have
any
introductions
at
this
time.
A
Thank
you.
We
do
have
a
quorum.
I
received
a
message
from
representative
Truitt,
representative
cool.
They
are
stuck
in
traffic,
apparently
there's
a
bad
accident
on
I-75.
So
just
wanted
to
explain.
We
do
have
some
members
that
have
another
meeting
that
starts
at
nine
o'clock.
So
if
you
see
members
coming
and
going
I
just
wanted
to
inform
you
what's
going
on
the
first
bill
for
consideration
today
is
Senate
Bill
247
an
act
relating
to
transcend
public
school
students,
Senator
Givens.
A
D
D
This
legislation
simply
says
if
you're
a
first
second
or
third
grader
and
you
move
from
a
school
in
a
district
to
another
school
in
the
same
district.
The
default
position
is:
if
your
parents
want
you
to
stay
at
the
same
school,
they
can
ask
that
you
stay
there
and
the
district
must
provide
transportation,
provided
it's
within
the
bus
routes
and
means
of
that
District
fairly
simple
legislation,
but
could
have
a
significant
impact
on
these
young
students,
especially
in
these
formative
years.
When
structure
is
so
important,.
E
Yes,
thank
you
so
I
know
we
do
this
for
kids,
who
are
struggling
with
homelessness
and
losing
their
housing
under
mckinney-vento
and
I
do
have
a
lot
of
children
that
I
see
coming
in
and
out
of
my
building,
who
who
this
would
benefit?
My
concern
is
with
the
district
as
large
as
JCPS
with
the
number
of
children,
who
would
then
require
additional
Transportation.
Where
would
the
Fine
Line
be
I
mean
it
basically
says
that
the
district
can
say
they
can't
provide
transportation?
E
We've
just
done
a
whole
lot
of
work
and
much
to
the
Chagrin
of
me,
who
will
now
have
to
go
to
work
at
7
40.
we've
got
a
system
where
we
can
have
enough
bus
drivers
in
order
to
drive
the
children
where
they
need
to
go.
I
can't
imagine
adding
another
piece
to
that
which
would
be
you
know
a
couple
of
children
here
and
there.
D
Certainly
glad
to
answer
the
question
and
thanks
for
the
question,
so
the
initial
filing
of
the
bill
was
a
prescriptive.
The
district
shall
provide
conversations
back
and
forth
that
went
on
consent
in
the
Senate,
but
conversations
back
and
forth
indicated
that
there
were
going
to
be
some
challenges
in
some
districts,
so
we
pulled
it
off.
Consent
put
an
amendment
on
that.
You
see
as
the
very
last
four
lines
the
superintendent
may
deny
the
transportation
request
of
he
or
she
determines
the
distance
and
travel
time
that
the
student
would
spend
and
transport
is
impracticable.
D
The
district
shall
then
report
the
transportation,
denial
and
supporting
rationale
to
KDE,
so
we're
providing
a
mechanism
whereby
the
district
can
say
this
is
just
not
workable.
It's
simply
not
workable.
We
don't
have
buses
on
that
route
for
whatever
reason,
and
they
deny
that
request,
but
they
have
to
report
it.
So
we
can
better
understand
why
a
district
like
the
one
you
mentioned-
Jefferson
County,
Public
Schools,
which
has
so
many
bus
routes
and
change
stations,
and
you
would
think,
could
provide
a
lot
of
that
Transportation
provided
to
students
not
on
the
bus,
too
long.
D
I
would
hope
they
would
start
it
yes
and
I
think
they
will
I
had
a
great
conversation
with
superintendent
polio
just
a
moment
ago,
and
he
indicated
support
at
least
along
the
lines
of
the
transients
being
a
key
problem
in
that
district
and
something
he
would
love
to
help
alleviate.
He
did
not
indicate
clear
support
for
the
legislation.
He
did
not
indicate
any
opposition
of
the
legislation.
F
I
think
representative
bojinkowski
just
brought
up
the
question
that
I
had
to
Senator
Gibbons.
You
know
in
Warren
County
fourth
largest
school,
where
nothing
like
Jefferson,
but
we
are
the
fourth
largest
school
district
in
the
state
and
I
was
just
thinking.
If
you
know
you
move
from
one
side
of
that
County
to
the
other
and
as
she
said,
we
really
have
trouble
getting
bus
drivers
now,
I
think
we're
funded
at
about
70
percent
Transportation
right
now,
so
it
would
put
a
financial
burden
as
well
as
a
physical
burden.
F
I
think
on
I
think
it's
a
great
idea
but
I
like
the
Clause
that
you
just
read
to
give
the
school
system
an
out
if
they
couldn't
provide
that
service.
D
Great
observation,
I'll
reply
briefly
and
say
it
also
is
narrowed
down
to
children
that
qualify
for
free
and
reduced
lunch,
and
so
we're
narrowing
that
Universe
even
more
I'd
love
I
had
some
legislators
on
our
side
that
were
interested
in
going
further
than
first
second
and
third
grade,
but
I.
Consider
this
a
toe
dip.
We're
going
to
try
this
and
see
I
think
you
can
have
a
positive
impact,
especially
on
these
young
students.
So
thank
you
for
the
question.
G
D
Know
that's
a
great
question.
We
didn't
address
it
in
the
bill
and
I
had
not
thought
of
it.
Until
now,
I
would
presume
that
the
district
would
work
with
that
that
family
to
say
your
student
is
staying
you're,
providing
Transportation,
no
issues
there,
but
again
the
legislation
does
not
speak
to
that
in
in
the
way
I
read
it.
G
Okay
can
I
make
a
brief
comment.
Chair
proceed,
I
I
appreciate
the
intent
of
the
legislation
and
I'll
just
give
you
a
brief
story
about
my
situation.
My
parents
divorced
when
I
was
a
small
kid
and
as
a
medical,
Middle
School
student,
my
mom
moved
to
a
different
moved
outside
that
area,
so
I
could
not
continue
to
go
that
school.
She
took
me
every
day.
I
took
the
bus
to
my
grandma's
house
and
she
picked
me
up
in
the
evening
that
little
bit
of
normalcy.
H
H
H
I
did
have
a
question
as
what
about
kindergarten
because,
in
my
opinion,
I
think
that
kindergarten
should
be
included
in
that,
because
if
we
were
to
have
a
student
that
would
be
to
move
from
one
school
to
another
during
the
kindergarten
year.
I
think
that
the
impact
would
also
be
would
be
pretty
significant,
and
you
know
that
kindergarten
year
is
so
important
as
far
as
socialization
and
kind
of
learning
routines
and
procedures
that
I
I
think
that
in
probably
more
so
with
the
Kinder
group
that
you'd
want
them.
D
Great
observation,
representative
and
I
had
not
considered
that,
if,
if
it
were
the
will
of
this
group
to
add
kindergarten,
I
have
no
issues
with
that
and
and
again
I
don't
sense.
This
is
a
piece
of
legislation
that
has
to
be
finished
before
the
veto
period.
This
is
something
that,
if
we
choose
to
do
in
the
last
two
days,
I
think
we've
got
a
window
of
time
to
get
it
right,
so
I'm
open
to
that
conversation.
Thank
you.
I
E
Yeah
kind
of
following
when
rep
timoney
was
asking
his
question
I
what
about
a
kindergarten
or
first
second
and
third
grader,
who
has
a
sibling
with
the
sibling,
then
be
able
to
stay
at
the
school
as
well?
I
mean
it's
great
that
the
younger
kids
could,
but
if
you
have
a
family
unit
adding
in
a
bit
so
that
the
siblings
of
those
children
could
also
stay
in
their
school.
So.
D
To
be
able
to
keep
the
family
together
again,
I
would
be
supportive
of
it.
I
would
be
hopeful
and
and
I
think
we've
got
enough
Professionals
in
the
education
space
on
the
closer
to
the
front
line
than
we
are
that
are
going
to
work
every
day
to
try
and
accommodate
families
any
way
they
can
and,
in
my
mind,
think
with
me
about
what
what
I
presume
goes
on
here.
If
you
have
a
student
that
is
taking
a
seat
in
a
school
building
now
the
capacity
is
there.
D
J
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
mine
was
my
thoughts
were
along
the
same
lines
as
representative
Baker
in
regards
to
the
requirement
being
there
I
when
I
and
I
I
read
it
and
I
didn't
see
that
that
didn't
pop
out
as
a
requirement
I
mean
I,
see
the
shall
provide
now.
But
that's
a
separate
section.
J
So
I
read
that
to
mean
that
that
section
two
of
section
one
says
that
they're
eligible
so
I,
don't
know
if
we
can
clean
up
the
language
there
and
make
it
to
where
they're
still
available
to
go
without
the
transportation,
I
I
think
changing
that
to
May
is
going
to
open
it
up
too
much,
but
I
think
you
know
I'm
not
sure,
but
I
think
if,
with
a
little
bit
of
language
cleanup,
it
wasn't
too
much
of
a
stretch
for
me
to
to
say
that
they
didn't
necessarily
have
to
require
that
or
that
the
parent
couldn't
opt
out.
D
So
great
question
and
I'm
reading
again
what
you've
directed
my
attention
to
and
what
coach
air
Baker
mentioned.
If
we
read
to
and
stand
alone,
we
may
we
may
have
addressed
this
already.
Follow
me
on
the
language.
Two
stands
by
itself
when
an
eligible
student
changes
his
or
her
residence
during
the
school
year
and
the
change
in
Residence
results
in
the
student
being
assigned
to
a
different
School
within
the
same
district,
the
parent
or
Guardian
shall
have
the
option
to
request
the
student
remain
enrolled
in
the
original
School,
so
they
can
stay
there.
D
D
A
D
D
A
I
will
add,
you
know.
Last
year,
Senator
West
and
I
worked
on
Senate
bill
nine,
along
with
representative
bozonowski,
and
these
students
in
early
literacy
I
think
this
is
critical
in
reading
for
these
students
who
may
be
going
from
in
the
district
from
school
to
school,
we
strengthen
the
language
in
that
we're
superintendent
can
have
a
common
curriculum
across
the
district
which
I
think
helped,
but
it
is
vital.
We
have
a
motion
in
a
second
on
the
bill.
Mariah
call
the
roll.
L
F
M
H
A
Chair
of
those
with
18,
yes,
votes,
zero,
no
votes
and
zero
pass
votes,
Senate
Bill
247
passes
with
favorable
expression.
Same
shall
pass
on
the
house
floor.
Thank.
D
A
A
A
N
In
fact,
it
ties
nicely
to
what
Senator
Givens
was
sharing.
One
of
the
efforts
of
Senate
Bill
145
is
really
a
cleanup
of
the
2021
House
Bill
563,
as
amended
by
the
latest
substitute
as
well.
This
bill
removes
from
statute,
but
with
the
sub
that
you
now
have
in
front
of
you,
I
think
it
articulates
what
came
out
of
our
education
Committee
in
the
Senate
list,
some
confusion.
N
Any
student
who
transfers
enrollment
from
a
district
of
residence
to
a
non-district
under
krs-157.350
for
after
enrolling
in
grade
nine
and
participating
in
a
Varsity
Sport
shall
be
ineligible
to
participate
in
interscholastic
athletics
for
one
calendar
year
from
the
date
of
the
transfer.
The
state
border,
any
agency
designated
by
the
state
board
to
manage
inner
Scholastic,
Athletics
May,
adopt
rules,
policies
and
bylaws
and
promulgate
administrative
regulations
necessary
to
carry
out
this
paragraph.
Some
of
the
unintended
consequences
that
we
experienced
and
I
did
in
Northern
Kentucky
I
have
11
districts
within
my
Senate.
N
District
were
seventh
graders
and
eighth
graders
that
actually
did
participate
in
Varsity
Athletics
and
once
they
made
that
High
School
decision
they
actually
were
then
required
to
sit
out
a
year.
So
this
that
wasn't
what
was
intended.
Your
eligibility
was
intended
to
begin
at
ninth
grade.
It
just
wasn't
so
clearly
stated
so
great
work.
I
do
believe
represent
representative
Tipton
on
the
amendment
yeah.
A
N
Excellent,
thank
you
and
the
situation
of
transfer
for
athletic
advantage
by
those
high
schoolers
who
have
already
played
Varsity
Athletics,
is
in
regulation
and
it
is
managed
by
the
khsaa
already.
The
purpose
for
this
committee
sub
again
is
to
make
it
so
much
more
specific
and
clear
that
eligibility
begins
in
ninth
grade
and
that
any
transfer
exceptions
that
might
need
to
be
considered.
There's
a
body
to
consider
that
those
regulations
we're
trying
not
to
overreach
into
statute.
N
It's
already
addressed
very
clearly
in
regulations,
and
we
have
a
regulatory
regulatory
body
of
the
khsaa
to
handle
that.
So
that's
what
you're,
seeing
in
the
sub
that
section
I
on
page
six
line
15
is
where
that
begins
and
finishes
at
25.
and
you'll.
See,
then
that
effectively
replaces
what
it
was
listed
in
House,
Bill
563
previously.
A
A
O
I
just
wanted
to
be
sure
that
it
was
an
opportunity
for
any
questions
that
you
might
have.
I
know
that
last
week,
when
the
bill
was
considered
on
the
Senate
side,
there
was
some
not
very
accurate
reports
put
out
by
the
media,
and
several
of
you
have
reached
out.
Several
members
of
both
bodies
have
reached
out
for
clarification.
We
think
this
presents
a
little
bit
clearer
picture
of
what
the
intent
was
and
what
the
intention
of
the
amendment
is,
and
we
we
already
just
for
your
information.
H
You
chairman
and
my
question
was
going
to
be:
has
the
commissioner
and
has
the
case
say
weighed
in
on
this,
so
thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
F
A
A
Our
agenda
is
Senate
Bill,
156,
Senator
West.
Please
come
forward.
A
Raise
your
right
hand,
please
do
you
swear,
affirm
testimony
about
to
give
the
truth
the
whole
truth
nothing,
but
the
truth
will
help
you
out.
I.
Do
please
proceed.
P
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman,
you
have
before
you,
members
of
the
committee
Senate
Bill
156,
just
for
clarification
of
what
we're
looking
at
with
the
sub
today
this
committee,
as
you
recall,
past
156,
the
new
language
on
this
bill
starts
on
page
32
in
in
the
last
two
pages,
and
that's
that's
the
addition.
P
A
We
have
a
motion
in
a
second
on
the
sub
we
do
have
representative
bojanowski
has
a
question.
E
All
right,
so
thank
you.
I
was
really
excited
about
this
bill.
I'm
really
excited
about
this
bill
and
now
I'm.
Just
not
sure
could
you
share
studies,
audits,
reviews
and
so
on
that
have
been
conducted
in
JCPS
in
recent
years.
P
P
E
All
right
so
here's
the
list
I
have
we
had
the
audit
in
2014
by
Adam
edlin
through
the
auditor's
office.
We
had
an
audit
by
KDE
that
resulted
in
a
2018
corrective
action
plan
that
covered
terms
of
two
different
Commissioners
and
took
two
to
three
years
for
the
district
to
satisfy
every
element
of
that
corrective
action
plan.
There
was
another
audit
of
our
contract
and
labor
agreements
by
KDE.
We've
had
a
compensation
audit
that
was
done
independently
outside
the
organization.
We
had
an
audit
of
our
magnet
program
by
an
organization
called
outside.
E
E
E
I,
don't
know
it's
just
very
concerning
to
me
and
I
think
you
know,
we've
got
a
lot
of
at-risk
children
and
I
have
no
qualms
about
saying
that
I
want
their
achievement
to
be
the
highest
that
it
can
be.
We
also
by
the
nature
of
our
district.
We
sift
kids
out
of
buildings
in
order
to
put
them
in
other
programs,
so
we
sift
kids
out
of
our
typical
elementary
schools
and
put
them
into
magnet
programs
into
a
traditional
school
or
another
magnet.
E
And
then
you
know,
I
had
a
middle
school
principal
say
to
me
that
by
the
time
the
kids
get
to
her
building
that
they've
been
sifted.
The
the
higher
performing
students
have
been
sifted
out
three
or
four
times,
and
so
I
find
this
statement
that
is
dropped
in
a
bill
at
eight
o'clock
the
night
before
we
hear
it
on
at
eight
o'clock
in
the
morning.
E
P
Senator
yeah
this.
This
is
not
intended
to
be
a
negative
in
any
way
any
high
level
organization.
Any
large
organization
conducts
independent
third-party
audits
on
a
fairly
consistent
basis.
P
If
you'll
notice,
it's
the
auditor
of
Public
Accounts.
This
information
is
for
JCPS,
but
it's
also
for
the
general
assembly.
We
have
an
over
oversight.
Responsibility
as
a
general
assembly.
50
to
60
percent
of
our
state
budget
goes
to
education.
In
the
past
budget,
we
spent
we
plused
up,
K-12
a
half
a
billion
dollars,
and
so
a
key
component
of
that
for
the
state
is
JCPS.
P
So
this
effort
was
was
meant
to
to
maybe
get
some
outside
information,
and
just
as
an
additional
note,
this
is
not
just
JCPS
we
are
kctc
is
conducting
an
independent
third
party
review
by
the
Huron
group
over
three
million
dollar
RFP
study,
Senator
Stivers
and
his
resolution
is
calling
for
a
complete
and
thorough
review
of
CPE
and
everything
related
to
the
post-secondary
system,
so
we're
not
just
picking
on
JCPS.
This
is
an
overall
look
at
Kentucky
educational
system.
A
I
will
add
that
house
bill
250
last
year,
call
for
an
audience.
Kentucky
State
University
I
received
notice
that
we
should
receive
that
report
later
this
week
or
early
next
week.
So
members
I
take
note
of
that
on
the
timing.
The
agenda
in
the
subs
were
ready
late
afternoon.
Yesterday,
however,
could
not
send
the
agenda
out
until
Senate
Bill
156
was
recommitted
to
the
education
Committee
in
their
possession,
and
that
did
not
happen
until
we
were
in
motions
petitions
Communications
last
night,
usual
no
session
rent
very
late
next
question,
representative
willner.
Q
Thank
you.
Mr
chairman,
like
my
colleague
I,
was
very
excited
about
this
bill.
When
we
voted
on
it
yesterday,
I
was
pretty
taken
aback
to
get
home.
You
know
after
10
o'clock
last
night
and
see
what
had
been
added
to
it
and
I
want
to
expand
on
the
theme
of
past
Audits
and,
and
you
talk
about
oversight
responsibility.
You
know.
First
of
all,
we
have
a
locally
elected
School
Board,
who
has
oversight
responsibility
directly.
You
know
directly
elected
by
the
voters
in
Jefferson
County.
Q
I'll
also
say
all
of
these
audits
that
my
colleague
mentioned
are
available
for
public
review
I'm,
actually
going
to
look
at
Dr
polio.
Any
of
those
audit
results
could
be
made
available.
So
I've
got
confirmation
from
from
the
boss
there
that
all
of
that
information
could
be
made
available.
I
want
to
mention
the
KDE
audit
in
particular,
because
I
was
on
the
board
the
school
board
at
that
time
and
to
just
that
KDE
was
somehow
intertwined
with
us.
They
actually
recommended
removing
us
as
a
board.
Q
At
that
time
it
was
a
very
difficult
time
to
be
serving
on
the
board.
The
public
actually
was
very
you,
know,
I
think
the
school
board
had
never
been
popular
more
popular
than
at
that
time,
because
the
public
was
really
outraged
about
this
notion
that
the
state
was
going
to
take
over
their
locally
elected
officials.
But
to
that
that
audit
that
was
so
thorough,
it
lasted
for
so
long.
Q
We
had
KDE
staff
embedded
with
JCPS,
like
following
staff
around
in
and
out
of
the
schools
every
single
day
that
audit
lasted
so
long
that
it
required
actually
two
different
Commissioners
to
complete
it.
It
generated
a
corrective
action
plan
from
the
Kentucky
Department
of
Education.
It
was
a
lengthy
corrective
action
plan.
Q
Now,
for
me,
for
one
thing,
the
first
thing
I
hear
there
is
re-segregation.
So
that's
a
concern,
but
I
also
to
go
into
an
audit
for
this
to
be
a
good
faith.
Audit
and
I,
hear
you
say:
senator
West
and
I
really
want
to
believe
you
that
this
is
not
targeting
but
JCPS,
but
when
I
see
the
language
here
that
targets
JCPS
and
already
says
what
the
outcome
should
be.
What
one
of
the
recommended
outcomes
should
be?
Q
I
have
really
great
concern
about
that
and
so
much
concern
that
I
called
our
hard-working
committee
staff
before
seven
o'clock.
This
morning
it
was
too
early
to
call
any
of
you
guys,
but
I
did
request
a
committee
amendment
to
just
simply
delete
the
language
about
including
recommendations
on
how
the
Jefferson
County
Public
School
District
may
be
reconstituted
into
two
or
more
school
districts.
So
I,
you
know
I
I'm,
I,
guess
I'll
turn
to
the
chair.
Are
you
open
to
you
know,
emotion
on
that
Amendment.
A
As
I
announce
at
the
first
meeting
of
the
education
committee,
any
amendments
or
Subs
need
to
be
timely,
delivered
to
the
staff
by
4
pm.
The
sub
was
timely,
delivered
to
the
staff.
However,
at
this
time
any
committee
Amendment
will
not
be
in
order.
Q
Disappointing
because
you
know,
as
we
were
in
session,
I
got
home
after
10
pm
last
night
did
not
see
it
until
then
couldn't
call
staff,
then
I
was
as
timely
as
I
could
possibly
be
given
the
circumstances.
This
feels
extremely
undemocratic.
I
have
a
lot
of
respect
for
you,
Mr
chairman,
but
I'm,
I'm,
sorry,
that
you
won't
make
an
exception
in
this
case
that
that
that's
all
I
have
to
say.
M
Thank
you
chair
a
couple
questions,
maybe
a
statement:
if
that's
okay,
who's
going
to
pay
for
this
audit.
M
All
right,
so
you
know
we
talk
about
unfunded
mandates
up
here,
all
the
time
I'm
I'm,
assuming
this
is
not
going
to
be
very
cheap,
probably
a
million
dollars
better.
Probably
to
me
we
could
do
a
lot
better
things
with
our
money.
If
we
really
want
to
improve
education,
that's
10
reading
Specialists
for
10
of
their
worst
reading,
schools,
that's
10
social
workers,
maybe
I
mean
we
could
do
a
lot
of
things
to
improve
education.
M
The
bill
you
presented
us
yesterday
was
a
great
bill
and
I
think
we
were
all
excited
about
it
and
then,
at
the
last
hour
last
minute
we
get
something
like
this
attached
to
it.
That
doesn't
make
a
whole
lot
of
sense.
They've
had
audit
after
audit.
What
do
we
think
this
audit
is
going
to
show?
We
know
what
the
problems
are,
but
some
of
the
things
we're
trying
to
do
to
to
help
fix
them,
they're
not
going
to
work.
You
know
because
we
know
we
know
our
public
schools
are
made
up
of
our
societal
issues.
M
M
That's
going
to
give
us
the
information
that
we
already
know
so
I
mean
to
me
it's
a
waste
of
money,
a
waste
of
time-
and
here
we
are
at
the
last
hour
and
we
get
something
like
this
attached
to
a
really
good
bill
and-
and
you
know,
that's
and
I
know
I've
been
here
long
enough
to
know
that's
how
things
operate
up
here,
but
it's
not
right
and
I'm
a
no
on
this.
Thank
you.
K
K
Sponsor
I
will
send
him
at
156.
I
got
Deja
Vu
because
we
passed
this
bill
yesterday,
so
who
asked
for
this
language
to
be
added
and
why,
into
this
bill,
this.
P
Was
an
agreement
of
members
of
Senate
and
House?
It's
a
group
group
of
of
those
people
and
I'm
the
guy
carrying
it,
and
so
this
is.
This
is
not
a
new
thing
that
this
it
we've
been
working
in
conjunction
for
a
long
time
with
many
people
in
Louisville
to
take
a
deep
dive
into
JCPS
and
try
to
find
some
solutions
to
the
problems
there
to
representative
willner's
comment.
I
didn't
mean
to
you
know
say
that
KDE
is
a
rubber
stamp
of
JCPS.
I
would
not
I
would
not
say
that.
P
P
P
But
this
audit,
as
constituted,
would
be
primarily
for
the
benefit
of
JCPS
and
the
general
assembly,
and-
and
we
talk
about
recommended-
maybe
reconstituted
any
audit-
you
have
should
give
you
a
full
range
or
a
range
of
options.
So
I
would
say
the
reconstitution
will
be
the
extreme
option
going
down
to
the
lowest
no
Change
option.
So,
if
we're
going
to
act
as
general
assembly
in
a
consistent
manner,
we
we
need.
We
have
to
have
good
information,
and
so
that's
that's.
The
whole
purpose
of
this
thing.
K
So
I'm
surprised
to
hear
about
this
group
of
House
and
Senate
members
and
these
stakeholders
in
Louisville
who've
been
working
on
this
issue
because
you
know
I've
not
been
consulted
about
it.
My
question
is:
was
our
superintendent
Dr,
Marty,
polio,
consulted
or
even
informed
about
this
language?
Before?
The
bill
came
out
last
night.
A
A
R
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
be
here.
I
want
to
be
clear.
I
got
notification
of
this
bill
last
night
at
9,
00
PM,
as
I,
was
getting
ready
to
turn
in
for
the
evening,
so
it
was
like
a
punch
to
the
gut.
It
was
an
absolute
punch
to
the
gut
at
nine
o'clock
to
get
this
bill.
Having
no
idea
that
this
was
coming.
R
I
come
to
you
today,
not
just
as
a
superintendent
I
come
to
you
today
as
a
JCPS
Father,
the
Son
of
two
JCPS
teachers,
an
uncle
of
two
JCPS
students,
former
teacher
athletic
director
assistant,
principal
principal
and
now
superintendent,
so
26
years
of
my
life
have
been
dedicated
to
this
District.
Let
me
talk
about
those
audits
that
we
went
through
in
2017.
I
was
named
interim
superintendent.
R
R
We
methodically
went
through
each
of
the
260
and
change
those
and
improved
our
district.
We
also,
then
had
a
second
audit
by
the
Kentucky
Department
of
Education
in
2020.,
which
was
after
the
corrective
action
plan
we
had
implemented
and
I
will
tell
you
this
anecdotally
I
heard
from
multiple
people.
That
said,
it's
unbelievable
the
change
that
has
happened
in
this
District
in
two
years.
It
is
unbelievable.
It's
like
a
different
District
than
it
was
two
years
ago,
not
only
those
audits,
but,
as
representative
bojanowski
said,
we've
had
a
multitude
of
other
audits.
R
Most
recently
November
we
had
a
cognia
standards
audit,
which
is
a
statute
that
you
all
have
that
any
school
that
has
a
CSI
School
must
have
a
district
audit.
We
had
a
comprehensive
District
audit
where
cognia,
an
outside,
independent
auditor
came
and
said
to
us,
and
you
can
look
up
the
report
and
told
us
that
what
we
are
doing
to
support
our
highest
needs.
R
We
have
built
four
schools
and
we
have
26
new
buildings
coming
in
the
next
20
years.
We
have
changed
and
completely
resourced
our
high
poverty
schools
in
a
different
way
that
will
start
next
year,
which
includes
paying
teachers.
Eight
thousand
dollars
more
to
be
in
our
high
needs
schools.
We
have
technology
that
has
surpassed
all
other
districts.
We
have
10
000
kids
in
summer
learning,
that's
just
a
small
snapshot.
R
Now
the
problem
is
they've
just
been
passed
and
we
need
time
to
implement
that
to
make
change,
that's
what
we
have
to
do
in
order
to
be
successful.
They
have
been
passed
by
our
board.
Our
board
of
education
has
been
with
us
on
this
and
it
is
going
to
make
significant
difference
for
the
kids
of
Jefferson
County,
including
a
tax
increase
that
was
recommended
by
Governor
bevin's.
These
SEC
excuse
me
the
education
commissioner,
citing
us
for
not
raising
taxes
at
any
point
in
the
audit,
and
we
did
that
as
well.
During
the
pandemic.
R
We
have
now
come
out
of
the
pandemic
and
we
are
poised
to
make
major
change
in
JCPS
and,
as
you
can
see,
the
work
that
we
are
putting
in
and
I'll
say
this
bill
was
great.
Yesterday
it
was
fantastic.
We
are
also
and
I.
Thank
you
all
for
this
implementing
K-8
right
now.
Ela
curriculum,
math
curriculum
across
the
board
standardized
for
the
first
time
ever
because
of
the
bill
you
passed.
R
However,
during
this
summer,
which
will
be
the
most
difficult
summer
of
my
career
because
of
the
changes
we
are
making
changing
start
times,
New
Student
Assignment
plan
I
could
go
on
and
on.
We
will
now
have
an
audit
that
has
a
predetermined
result.
That
says
we
are
going
to
break
our
district
into
multiple
districts.
R
R
If
we
go
to
multiple
districts,
two
or
three
right
off
the
bat
you
three
times
the
Administration
staff
will
be
necessary
in
order
to
implement
this
plan,
a
teacher
shortage
is
occurring
right
now.
This
will
exacerbate
it
by
five
times
in
Jefferson
County,
because
we
will
now
have
to
have
supports
that
will
not
go
from
a
high
school
to
a
middle
school
across
a
district
line.
It
will
multiply
the
amount
of
vacancies
we
have
in
JCPS,
and
so
I
say
this
to
you
not
to
mention
I
won't
even
get
into.
R
If
you
divide
our
district
in
any
way
because
of
the
housing
in
Jefferson
County,
the
racial
and
socioeconomic
divide,
what
will
happen
will
be
extreme
poverty
District
any
way
you
slice,
Jefferson
County,
and
that
is
a
major
problem,
and
so
what
I
ask
of
you
today
is
give
us
the
chance
to
execute
our
plan.
We
have
a
plan,
we're
implementing
it.
We're
executing
it
give
us
an
opportunity
to
execute
that
plan.
I
know
there
are
a
lot
of
you
sitting
there
right
now
who
are
educators,
who
are
former
Educators?
You
know
this
isn't
right.
R
R
A
Polio,
thank
you
for
your
comments.
I
appreciate
your
testimony.
Thank
you.
Senator
West,
you
return
the
table.
We
have
a
motion
in
a
second
primary
house,
substitute
one
to
Senate
Bill
156.
Typically
I
would
do
a
real
call
vote,
but
I
would
do
a
Voice
vote,
but
today
we
will
do
a
roll
call
vote.
Mariah.
Please
call
the
roll.
H
K
L
F
L
I
You
know
we
all
this
frankfort's
in
a
rest
of
place
and
we
oftentimes
get
stuck
in
very,
very
difficult
situations
and
Senator
West
you're,
stuck
in
one
of
those
right
now
appreciate
the
bill
that
you
did
yesterday
and
and
I
think
it
has
a
chance
to
make
a
lot
of
strides
I
agree
with
representative
Lewis.
You
know
with
the
cost
that
this
is
going
to
be.
We
could
hire
a
lot
of
reading
Specialists
and
put
them
in
those
low,
achieving
schools
and
in
education
right
now.
H
Explain
my
vote
briefly
see.
Thank
you,
chairman
I'm,
going
to
pass
today.
You
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
there's
been
a
lot
of
really
good
discussion
going
on
about
this.
You
know,
I
was
excited
about
this
bill.
Yesterday,
I
was
thrilled,
I
I
do
I,
do
have
questions
about
a
bill.
That's
going
to
require
a
school
district
to
pay
for
its
own
audit,
I
I'm,
a
firm
believer
that
school
districts
are
critical
in
their
communities
and
they
need
to
be
transparent
and
and
I'm
a
firm
believer.
H
They
will
always
stand
up
to
any
audit.
It
doesn't
matter
the
school
district
and
and
I
can't
get
in
the
way
of
a
study.
If
there
was
a
collaboration
between
asking
JCPS,
are
there
areas
that
you'd
like
us
to
particularly
focus
on
with
our
audit?
You
know
having
a
collaboration
there
actually
give
them
an
ability
to
use
the
audit
as
a
tool
for
improvement.
Also
I
think
that's
the
collaboration
piece
that
I'm
looking
for
with
this.
So
that's
why
I'm
a
pass
today.
C
Explain
my
vote.
I
missed
I
apologize
I
missed
some
of
the
testimony.
Today.
Traffic
was
horrible
on
75.,
but
for
that
reason,
I
didn't
get
to
hear
that
the
whole
testimony
I'm
going
to
pass
for
right
now.
A
Sure
votes
I
with
nine,
yes,
votes,
six,
no
votes
and
three
pass
votes.
Primary
house
substitute
one,
two
Senate
Bill
156
does
not
pass.
Thank
you
Mr
chairman.
At
this
time
we
still
have
a
Senate
Bill
156
on
the
floor.
It
is
necessary
for
us
to
take
a
motion
on
that
legislation
again
to
send
it
back
to
the
Full
House,
the
rules
committee,
so
it
would
be
in
the
in
the
in
the
possession
of
the
house.
Do
I,
have
a
motion.
Promotion
have
a
motion
in
a
second
on
Senate
Bill
156.
L
A
Chair
votes,
Senate
Bill
156
passes
for
favorable
expression.
The
same
shall
pass
on
the
house
floor.