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A
Subcommittee
on
Justice
Public
Safety
in
the
Judiciary
for
the
2023
regular
session,
any
meeting
materials
received
by
the
deadline
were
posted
online
earlier
this
week
and
made
available
for
downloading
this
afternoon.
We
are
going
to
hear
from
representatives
of
the
administrative
office
of
the
courts
and
county
jails
who
are
here
to
provide
an
update
regarding
virtual
hearing
technology
projects
at
Kentucky
courts
in
jails.
A
C
A
A
Or
if
we
can
have
the
presenters
come
onto
the
table
come
up
to
the
table?
We
have
Laura
Givens
looks
like
Elizabeth
Lucas
and
Jim
Daly
Campbell
County
jailer.
D
Chairman
Flannery,
welcome
and,
and
congratulations
and
we
appreciate
and
are
excited
about,
the
fact
that
you're
going
to
be
chairing
our
budget
review
subcommittee
for
justice
and
Judiciary
going
forward
to
my
left
is
Beth
Lucas
she's,
our
director
of
implementation
and
Technology
services,
and
then
to
my
right
is
Jim
Daly,
the
Campbell
County
jailer
and
I
want
to
take
a
minute
to
thank
Jim.
D
The
jailers
association
and
the
folks
that
are
here
today,
they've,
been
incredible
partners
with
us
on
this
I
also
want
to
make
sure
to
thank
specifically
this
committee
and
your
colleagues
in
the
House
and
Senate
for
what
is
the
largest
technology
investment.
This
General
Assembly
has
ever
made
in
Kentucky's
court
system
in
our
history.
D
It's
significant
we're
excited
about
the
progress,
we're
making
and
we're
excited
to
update
you
not
only
about
the
video
arraignment
and
video
conferencing
projects
today,
but
also
four
other
projects
that
you
have
funded
for
us,
some
of
it
through
federal
arpa
funds,
some
of
it
through
other
sources.
But
it's
it's
significant
and
I
really
have
to
thank
Beth
and
her
team
and
Scott
Mattingly.
Our
chief
technology
officer,
I
know
they
presented
on
this
last
fall
I'm
excited
because
we've
made
even
additional
progress
since
the
last
presentation.
D
Beth.
Thank
you-
and
you
mentioned
in
your
remarks-
Mr
chairman,
that
you've
appropriated
10.6
million
specifically
for
the
video
arraignment
and
video
conferencing
project.
We
have
Consolidated
this
project
because
they
are
so
closely
related
originally
as
appropriated.
They
were
separate
projects,
you'll
see
that
we
have
only
expended
720
thousand
dollars
roughly
to
date,
but
that's
because
we've
been
piloting
in
three
different
counties
with
three
different
jails:
to
make
sure
that
we
had
the
config
the
equipment
configuration
the
way
we
needed
it
to
be.
D
We
currently
have
another
2.3
million
obligated,
but
this
is
really
only
initially
for
the
first
few
courtrooms
that
we're
doing
I
want
to
assure
this
committee.
We
still
have
432
courtrooms
that
will
be
equipped
total
in
this
project,
so
we
anticipating
expending
all
of
these
funds,
definitely
by
the
end
of
2025,
hopefully
sooner
by
the
time
we
are
completely
completely
finished,
but
the
project
includes
a
number
of
different
costs
and
you'll
see
these
listed.
D
Here
we
have
the
hardware,
the
hardware
costs,
which
are
the
zoom
room
and
the
HDX
new
jav
system,
which
is
our
our
video
system,
our
video
recording
system
that
we've
used
for
years
in
courtrooms,
but
this
is
the
newest
newest
system
that
jazz
has
created
really
specifically
in
some
ways
for
our
court
system
and
specifically
for
this
project
following
the
pandemic,
the
needs
of
all
courts
across
the
country
shifted.
D
There
are
a
number
of
licenses
involved
in
this
product.
This
project
we've
got
Zoom
room
licenses,
our
cloudroom
connectors.
Those
are
the
licenses
for
the
jails
that
we
are
purchasing
through
our
portion
of
the
project.
We
have
implementation
costs
and
then
we
have
some
infrastructure
costs
as
well
that
are
included.
D
It's
a
multi-generalite
generational
multi-year
project.
If
we've
kind
of
tried
to
set
forth
here,
if
you
think
about
it
and
I,
know
Mr
chairman,
as
a
practicing
lawyer,
you've
had
an
opportunity
to
use
some
of
this
technology
and
really
for
the
first
time
you
used
what
we
were
able
to
Band-Aid
together
during
the
pandemic,
and
that
would
have
been
what
you
see
here
as
the
second
generation
remote
Court.
D
This
was
really
just
a
laptop
interface
that
our
judges
were
using
through
the
pandemic
and
certainly
while
adequate
for
our
needs,
and
we
were
able
to
transition
quickly
to
a
video
Court.
It
is
not
long-term
the
solution
that
you
have
funded
or
that
we'll
be
creating
the
third
generation
Hybrid
Court
and
the
fourth
generation.
These
two
different
projects
will
be
everything
that
all
courts
in
the
state
have.
They
will
be
one
of
these
two
solutions
by
the
way.
D
Don't
let
me
go
too
fast
if
you
want
to
ask
a
question,
but
the
goal
will
be
that
every
courtroom
in
the
state
has
one
of
these
two
solutions.
D
D
That
alone
is
almost
five
thousand
dollars,
whereas
you
contrast
that,
with
the
HDX,
the
full
system,
total
cost
is
approximately
72
thousand
dollars.
One
of
the
things
and
one
of
the
challenges
and
I
think
we're
excited
about
getting
this
technology
to
our
judges.
Many
of
them
have
tested
this,
but
the
majority
of
our
judges
haven't
seen
this
Hardware
yet
and
I.
Think
one
of
the
things
that's
been
overwhelming
for
our
judges,
because
every
few
months
we've
been
changing
out
their
Hardware
testing
a
new
solution.
D
So
suddenly
they
have
benches
full
of
hardware
and
technology
that
they
don't
know
how
to
use
frankly-
and
it's
been
a
little
bit
overwhelming,
but
as
we've
begun
to
identify
clearly
the
systems
that
we're
going
to
be
putting
in
place.
We're
hopeful
we're
getting
a
lot
of
positive
feedback
from
our
judges
who
have
been
testing
this
type
IP
system,
because
it's
easy
because
they
literally
tapped
the
device
one
time
and
they
will
be
immediately
connected
to
the
jail.
D
It's
separate,
they're,
not
toggling
from
their
laptop
that
they're
on
it's
a
completely
separate
device
and
the
hope
will
be
it's
much
easier
to
use.
Judge,
Blau
and
Campbell
County
has
been
using
the
HDX
device
if
that's
correct,
Beth,
with
a
Lenovo
bundle.
The
tap
solution
also
and
we're
hearing
a
lot
of
positive
reviews.
So
we're
excited.
That
is
the
solution
that
will
be
rolling
out
into
the
courtrooms.
As
I
mentioned
and
Beth
I
know,
Jim
we've
got
I,
don't
know.
D
C
I'm
on
thank
you,
the
Chandlers
have
tested
it.
We've
put
it
in
several
jails
throughout
the
state
and
I
would
drop
back
and
just
tell
you
that
I
appreciate
having
worked
with
Lori
and
AOC
because
it
it
was
critically
important
to
me.
I
have
a
couple
of
different
counties
that
I
hold
for,
and
it's
saved
us
in
the
various
fiscal
courts.
C
Tremendous
amount
of
money
just
on
not
having
to
ship
people
and
take
them
back
and
forth
for
court
every
day
in
Campbell,
County,
we've
done
online
court
for
years
and
years,
but
this
allows
us
to
do
it
Statewide.
Basically,
so
at
the
jailers
we've
tested,
we
looked
at
several
different
options
and
we've
pretty
much
settled
on
a
Cisco
Hardware
device
and
we've
tested
it
and
worked
with
AOC.
C
So
we're
now
sure
that
they're
compatible
and
they'll
play
well
together,
right,
which
doesn't
happen
all
the
time
in
government,
but
our
systems
that
our
people
are
working
well
together
to
get
that
across
the
board.
We've
tested
it
in
my
County
Marion
and
Shelby.
She
mentioned
judge
Blau,
judge,
blouse,
consummate
geek
actually,
and
he
he
loves
all
this
stuff.
So
he
was
pretty
influential
I,
absolutely
understand.
Not
all
jailers
do
myself
included
and
so
I
told
her.
Don't
ask
me
any
technical
questions
because
I
don't
I,
don't
have
a
clue,
but
I
know
it's.
C
It's
a
cost-saving
money-saving
venture
for
us.
So
again
we're
we're
in
the
process
now,
where
every
full
service
jails
and
I'll
put
a
caveat
in
there.
Maybe
some
other
court
systems
where
they
have
they
don't
have
a
full-time
Jailer
will
have
it
in
their
core
systems.
I,
don't
know
the
answer
to
that,
but
hopefully,
if
I'm
holding
for
other
jails,
I'll
be
able
to
do
court
for
them.
No
matter
where
they're
coming
from
is
the
ultimate
goal.
So
we
have
and
it
talks
about
the
implementation
schedule.
C
We
are
going
through
the
third
party
vendor
which
of
course
is
Cisco
and
then
who
I
don't
know
the
name
of
the
company
that
they're
dealing
with,
but
we
are
in
the
process
now
where
each
Jailer
will
have
time
to
order.
However
many
units
they
feel
they're
going
to
need
for
their
respective
County,
for
instance
Campbell
County
I,
would
tell
you
will
need
at
least
three
and
probably
I've
told
them
if
they
don't
want
them.
I'll
take
them
all,
because
we
do
for
pre-trial,
and
we
do
things
for.
C
D
Well
and
I
would
certainly
defer
to
Beth
Or
to
Scott,
but
I
think
number
one
just
getting
equipment
to
even
test.
It
has
been
a
challenge.
There
have
been
shortages,
you
know
across
the
country
in
the
world,
I
think,
as
everybody
knows,
and
the
solutions
have
been
changing
so
rapidly
that
as
soon
as
we
would
have
something
to
test,
there
would
be
a
new
and
improved
version
of
of
what
we
were
testing
and
I
Beth.
You
can
probably
elaborate.
E
And
I
think
that
there,
you
know
is
a
sense
of
a
change
culture
right
so
having
any
change
at
all
is
is
challenging,
but
I
think
that
the
technology
is
making
jobs
easier,
not
harder.
So
I
think
that
change
culture
is
happening.
It
just
takes
a
little
time.
D
I
think
our
judges,
who
have
had
an
opportunity
to
use
the
new
system
I,
think
it's
important
to
know
that
there's
only
a
few
of
them
who've
had
an
opportunity
to
test.
This
are
very
positive
about
their
continued
use,
perhaps
even
just
beyond
video
arraignments
but
I,
think
making
sure.
As
Jim
mentioned,
every
one
of
our
courtrooms
will
be
compatible
with
every
jail
in
the
state
will
be
the
goal
if
the
jail
has
installed.
That
equipment
and
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
the
jailers
association
is
working
closely
with
dlg
to
try.