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A
Quorum
walking
in
the
door
here
so
we'll
start
to
start
to
make
our
way
toward
getting
started.
A
Before
we
get
started,
I
just
want
to
kind
of
give
you
an
overview
of
what
we're
going
to
try
to
do
here
in
our
short
time
in
our
meeting,
we're
going
to
consider
senate
bill,
1
or
216
and
come
and
propose
committee
substitute
1
and
discuss
that
and
possibly
act
on
that
then
at
the
close
of
our
meeting,
senator
southworth
has
a
couple
of
ideas
that
might
be
floor,
amendments
that
she
was
working
on
toward
a
committee
sub
and
we
just
didn't
get
together
on
it,
so
she's
going
to
want
to
honor
that
and
give
her
five
five
minutes,
or
so
at
the
end,
to
talk
about
a
couple
ideas
that
she
has
on
the
bill
as
well.
A
So
at
this
point,
madam
clark,
please
call
the
roll.
C
A
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I'm
robbie
mills.
I
represent
the
4th
district
in
northwest
kentucky
and
I'm
here
representing
senate
bill
216..
We,
this
is
a
holdover.
From
yesterday's
meeting.
We
had
a
obviously
had
a
large
agenda
symbol.
216
addresses
I
do
if
you
would
like
to
if
we
could
have
entertainment,
adopt
this
up.
Okay,
all.
A
Okay,
so
we
have
before
us
committee
sub
one
which
we've
been
working
on
for
the
last
several
weeks
related
to
this,
and
I've
had
quite
a
bit
of
input
from
members
on
in
the
caucus.
So
I
would
like
to
just
kind
of
talk
about.
There
are
seven
points
that
are
the
committee
sub
to
symbol,
216.
A
the
first
item
of
the
on
on
the
sub.
Is
it
changes
the
independent
number
of
independent
inquiries
done
by
the
attorney
general
from
6
to
12.?
These
are
the
inquiries
after
the
election
that
are
drawn
from
random
selection.
That
will
give
us
a
full
10
percent
of
our
counties
that
are
independently
looked
at
election
results
are
looked
at
in
this
inquiry.
A
A
It
removes
credit
and
debit
cards
as
an
alternate
form
of
id
to
vote
and
according
to
secretary
of
state's
office
in
2020,
this
alternate
identification
method
was
used
167
times
out
of
nearly
three
three
million
people
that
voted.
So
a
very
small
used
alternate
form
of
id
that
I
think
needs
to
be
removed
from
our
id
list.
A
A
The
fourth
thing
is:
it
prohibits
voting
equipment
from
connecting
to
any
network,
including
the
internet
or
communicating
with
any
devices
external
to
the
voting
system.
This
once
again
has
been
in
several
election
bills
in
the
last
couple
years.
It's
never
made
it
across
the
finish
line.
I
think
it's
very
important
as
far
as
confidence
goes
and
there's
a
lot
of
still
a
lot
of
people
out
there
that
are
concerned
about
that
particular
issue.
A
The
fifth
thing
is
for
a
period
of
30
days,
the
voting
equipment
and
ballot
boxes
shall
be
secured
and
locked
and
under
video
surveillance.
This
is
just
an
extra
step
of
security
that
makes
sure
that
ballots
are
protected
for
any
kind
of
recount
or
re-canvas
in
the
future.
After
the
election,
the
sixth
thing
changes
filing
requirements
to
to
to
one
annual
report
for
years
when
you're,
not
on
the
ballot
and
at
this
time
may
yield
to
senator
thayer.
A
That
may
want
to
make
a
couple
comments
on
this.
D
Thanks,
mr
chairman,
mr
chairman,
yes,
for
25
or
30
years
in
years
in
which
there
were
no
elections,
office
holders
filed
an
annual
report
december
1st
during
the
past
year.
The
kentucky
registry
of
election
finance
made
a
unilateral
decision
to
change
that
rule
and
have
reports
due
quarterly.
D
This
amendment
takes
it
back
to
the
way
it's
been
for
25
or
30
years,
and
will
quite
clearly
state
the
legislative
intent.
The
normal
reporting
process
will
be
in
place
during
years
in
which
a
candidate
is
on
the
ballot
and
up
for
re-election-
and
I
appreciate
you,
mr
chairman,
for
including
that
language
in
your
committee
substitute.
A
Very
good,
thank
you
and
the
final
thing
involved
in
this
committee
sub
number
seven.
It
places
the
secretary
of
state
as
chair
of
the
board
of
the
state
board
of
elections,
and
that
is
on
page
25
of
the
committee
sub.
So
those
are
the
seven
items
that
are
involved
in
this
committee
sub.
I
will
mention
that
I
have
vetted
this
through
secretary
of
state's
office
through
several
representatives
of
the
clerks
association
and
folks
with
election
interest.
A
As
you
all
know
that
you
know,
election
bills
are
there's
always
nuances
to
them,
but
I
feel
like
that.
We've
kind
of
gotten
this
to
a
good
point
to
be
able
to
move
forward
with
this,
and
it
makes
some
good
changes
that
increases
election
security
in
our
state
and
I'm
happy
to
present
this
to
you
today.
A
C
C
B
C
E
E
So
I'm
working
on
language
to
solve
that,
and
the
other
reason
is
the
secretary
of
state
as
a
chair
of
the
board
and
as
voting
member,
we,
this
body
actually
took
action
about
three
years
ago
to
address
this
issue
that
had
spun
out
of
control,
and
there
are
numerous
investigations,
court
cases,
articles
and
so
forth
about
this
and
we're
turning
around
and
starting
heading
right
back
in
that
same
direction.
I
think
that's
a
dangerous
move.
C
D
I'd
like
to
explain
my
vote.
Yes,
please
I
vote.
I
I
was
the
one
who
led
the
charge
to
remove
the
secretary
of
state
from
the
board
of
elections.
The
previous
secretary
of
state
proved
that
she
was
incapable
of
holding
on
to
that
position.
The
current
secretary
of
state
has
done
a
good
job
and
proved
himself
more
than
capable
of
being
back
as
chairman
of
the
board
of
elections,
a
vote
aye.
D
A
A
Okay,
at
this
point,
this
time
senator
southworth,
if
you
want
to
come
to
the
desk
and
senator
southworth,
has
a
couple
of
handouts
for
the
committee
and
I've
granted
her
a
little
privilege
here
to
explain
a
couple
of
ideas
that
she
has.
That
might
show
up
as
floor
amendments,
and
I
appreciate
everybody's
attention
to
these
senator
southworth.
The
floor
is
yours.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
members.
Hopefully
this
isn't
a
whole
lot
of
new
information,
but
I
do
want
to
clarify
what
was
in
the
committee
sub
number
two,
the
part
that
I
just
spoke
about:
the
electronic
network
and
internet
connections
on
page
seven
of
the
current
sub
that
we
just
adopted
the
language
says,
prohibit
voting
equipment
that
tabulates
or
aggregates
votes
used
in
official
results
from
connecting
any
network,
including
the
internet,
or
communicating
with
any
device
external
to
the
voting
system.
E
E
This
is
this
is
a
way
too
many
words.
What
we're
talking
about
is
data
leaving
our
systems
and
when
we
put
too
many
qualifiers
on
it,
then
it
ends
up
creating
a
situation
where
there's
gaps
and
the
gaps
are
what,
if
we
are
doing,
votes
that
have
unofficial
results,
which
is
how
all
of
our
machines
count
the
votes
and
what
about?
If
we
have
connections
that
are
internal
to
the
voting
system,
which
is
all
of
our
connections,
so
this
is
wording
errors
that
need
to
be
fixed.
E
This
is
going
to
be
a.
This
is
going
to
be
a
hot
topic
because
in
2021
in
february
the
federal
certification
program
that
certifies
our
machines
is
now
allowing
internet
connections
in
machines,
so
they
are
not
cutting
those
out
in
the
past,
they
were
using
2005
certification
standards.
We've
come
a
long
way
in
technology
since
then,
now
they're,
specifically
allowing
internet
connection,
so
the
feds
aren't
going
to
help
us
out
the
state
had
better.
Have
it
together.
The
problem
is
nobody
what
I
found
when
I
first
started
working
in
the
executive
branch.
E
No
one
person
knows
how
all
of
this
stuff
works,
so
you
need
a
clerk
to
be
able
to
figure
out
how
the
election
process
works.
You
need
an
nsa
person
to
tell
you
how
the
security
works
and
you
need
a
legislator
or
a
lawyer
to
tell
you
how
to
write
the
law
and
none
of
these
people.
None
of
these
hats
are
all
in
the
same
person,
and
so
we
keep
getting
it
wrong
every
time.
E
So
that's
why
I've
got
a
change
in
my
committee
sub
on
that
and
finally,
at
the
end,
the
two
big
things
that
we're
talking
about
is:
how
do
we
make
sure
our
votes
are
actually
correct?
The
one
issue
is:
is
the
number
of
votes
the
same
as
the
number
of
ballots?
This
has
been
a
big
issue
in
question
for
a
long
time,
because
there's
no
no
thing
in
our
law.
That
requires
us
to
make
sure
that
that
is
accurate.
E
We
have
our
poll
books
and
we
have
our
election
results
and
they're
never
actually
tallied
to
match.
What
this
does
is
makes
us
make
sure
that
the
tallies
actually
are
equal
before
we
move
forward
in
certifying
an
election.
And
finally,
the
last
thing
is
risk
limiting
audit
and
on
the
committee
sub
page
12
you'll
see
the
definition
of
risk
limiting
audit,
because
last
year
in
house
bill
574,
we
passed
the
language,
inserting
this
risk
limiting
audit
procedure.
E
The
problem
is,
the
procedure
isn't
defined,
it
just
says:
there's
a
procedure,
so
we
need
to
insert
language
that
specifically
says
this
will
be
the
procedure
that
we
follow,
because
this
went
into
effect
july
1,
as
we
all
know
how
bills
do
and
to
date,
there's
not
been
a
single
risk.
Let
me
know
that
we've
had
election
specials,
this
past
fall
wrestling
knots
haven't
done,
you
know
the
clerks
are
with
us
today.
E
I've
had
those
conversations,
they
haven't
gotten
the
parameters
put
together
yet
and
the
parameters
need
to
have
happened
by
june
30
last
year
and
we
have
an
election
coming
up
this
year
and
are
they
going
to
have
it
together?
We
don't
know,
that's,
certainly
not
acceptable.
We
need
to
just
give
some
some
definition
to
it,
so
that
nobody
has
to
wonder-
and
we
all
are
clear
exactly
what's
going
to
happen
with
that
audit
protocol.
E
So
I
have
to
say
thank
you
to
our
friend
senator
higdon,
who
made
the
suggestion
on
how
to
define
the
risk
limiting
audit
and
it
would
be
a
random
selection
of
a
couple
of
precincts
in
each
county.
They
could
actually
go
through
and
count
and,
if
that
all
matches,
then
we
really
don't
have
to
do
those
full
counts
that
everyone's
worried
about,
but
if
it
doesn't
match,
then
we
absolutely
better
check
the
whole
count
right.
E
So
that
is
a
very
simple
way
that
we
can
assure
our
people
without
having
to
go
into
the
full
complexity.
I
think
the
random
selection
is
key
here
and
when
we
randomly
select
it
on
the
spot
after
the
election,
there's
there's
really
no
way.
Someone
could,
you
know,
know
ahead
of
time
exactly
how
they're
going
to
target
so
forth,
and
I
want
to
close
with
this,
mr
chairman,
about
back
to
these
elections
with
these
internet
connections.
E
Homeland
security
would
always
make
the
reports
and
the
homeland
security
reports
were
along
the
lines
of
here's,
the
number
of
flues
but
flu
cases
kind
of
went
to
the
sidelines
during
election
season,
and
they
started
talking
about
elections
in
2018.
Our
president
made
an
executive
order
that
talked
about
having
the
security
agencies.
E
All
those
three-letter
agencies
actually
monitoring
our
election
networks
now,
there's
obviously
confusion
amongst
the
general
public.
That's
not
working
at
that
level
of
security,
whether
those
networks
exist,
what
they
look
like,
but
he
issued
an
executive
order
for
them
to
monitor
them
in
2021
the
current
administration
reissued
that
executive
order.
E
If
this
is
not
a
concern,
they
wouldn't
be
issuing
those
orders,
so
we
need
to
make
sure
we
get
this
right
at
the
state
level
because
I
certainly
don't
want
to
be
relying
on
the
nsa
since
they
haven't
been
feeding
us
the
information
anyway,
and
I
hope
that
it
does
come
out
exactly
what's
going
on,
but
we
have
to
get
that
done
here
and
that's
why
I'm
bringing
this
final
note.
I
know
I've
talked
to
many
of
you.
E
There's
not
been
a
whole
lot
of
trouble
over
the
the
kind
of
paired
down
version
that
I've
got
here
in
this
committee
sub.
I
certainly
would
welcome
any
input
and
details.
We
can
work
on
this
to
bring
it
forward
to
get
something
in
place.
One
thing
I
will
be
adding
is
emergency
clause
so
that
we
can
get
it
done
for
this.
This
year's
election,
starting
in
may,
because
it's
important
thank
you,
mr
chair.
C
Thank
you
just
regarding
the
emergency
clause
so
and
I'm
not
sure
if
your
committee
sub
contained
all
the
information
well,
no,
it
didn't
contain
all
of
it,
but
some
of
it.
I
guess-
and
I
know
this
is
just
information
only
at
this
point,
but
I
would
want
to
hear
from
the
clerks
about
how
the
possibility
of
doing
that
before
may.
E
So
when
we
say
here's
protocol
they're
already
on
alert
that
there
is
a
risk
limit
audit,
they
wrote
it,
but
now
we're
saying
okay.
This
is
what
it's
going
to
look
like,
so
I
think
that
we
can
work
with
them
even
in
that
short
time
frame.
That's
why
I'm
trying
to
keep
it
down
to
a
manageable
roar
so
that
we
could
do
quick
implementation
without
having
any
really
upfront
issues.
A
Very
good,
thank
you,
senator
southworth.
That
ends
our
meeting
here.
I
just
want
to
make
a
real
quick
note.
We've
got
a
lot
of
bills
in
our
committee
and
there's
probably
going
to
be
some
special
call
meetings
over
the
next
couple
weeks,
so
just
appreciate
everybody's
indulgence,
but
trying
to
weed
through
and
get
the
most
important
ones
through
our
committee,
but
sometimes
that's
a
tough
task,
so
senator
mcdaniel
just
came
in.
Would
you
like
to
record
any
votes,
or
would
you
like
to
pass
okay?
Thank
you,
sir.
We
are
adjourned.
Thank
you.