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B
B
Here
and
I'm
going
to
give
members
just
a
couple
minutes
to
look
over
the
minutes
while
I'm
talking
and
then
someone
can
make
a
motion
we're
going
to
go
through
Slide
by
slide
and
I'm
going
to
allow
questions,
because
your
your
information
is
so
deep
and
so
rich
that
I'm
afraid
if
we
get
to
the
end
that
we
have
to
back
up
and
look
at
slides.
So
members
be
aware
that
you
can
ask
a
question
per
slide
and
we'll
be
watching
for
those
questions.
Okay,
all
right
do
I,
have
a
motion
on
the
minutes.
B
Thank
you
minutes
are
approved,
and
today
we
have
the
Kentucky
Department
of
Education
school
facilities,
Branch
review,
we
have
representatives
and
they
will
be
presenting
an
overview
of
the
school
facilities
Branch.
If
these
Representatives
will
please
come
to
the
front
and
identify
yourselves
for
the
record.
E
May
proceed.
Thank
you
so
much
for
having
us
again
or
it's
a
pleasure
to
be
here
with
you.
We
are
going
to
do
a
high
level
overview
per
your
request
of
the
KDE
facilities.
Branch
we're
going
to
talk
about
kfix,
which
is
our
inventory
system
and
the
impact
of
Two
Bills
House,
Bill
33
and
House
Bill
678
I'm,
going
to
let
Chase
start
us
off
and
then
I'll
join
in
a
little
later
in
the
presentation.
Thank.
D
You
once
again
back
here,
thank
you
for
having
us
again
we're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
our
facilities,
branch
and
jump
into
a
program
we
have
which
gets,
as
you
said,
into
some
pretty
rich
detail
and
the
further
down
the
rabbit
hole.
You
go
with
this
program.
You'll
find
much
more
detail
than
you
probably
ever
wanted
to
know,
but
it
does
help
answer
a
lot
of
questions
about
our
school
facilities
in
an
incredibly
important
program
for
our
districts.
D
So
the
first
slide
here
is
just
an
overview
of
our
facilities,
Branch,
obviously
with
the
Department
of
Education
and
office
of
finance
and
operations
and
the
facilities.
Branch
really
obviously
stays
under
this
operations,
I
guess
purview
and
they
reach
out
to
every
single
School
District
to
help
with
questions
on
not
only
facilities
planning
but
execution
of
construction
and
closing
out
these
construction
projects.
There's
a
long
list
of
things
these
I
should
say
this
group
does
every
day
it's
changed
somewhat,
which
Robin
will
talk
about
with
House
Bill
678.
D
But
ideally
we
are
in
direct
contact
with
districts.
Architects
construction
managers
all
across
the
state,
every
District,
small
and
large,
will
typically
have
a
project
or
many
projects
at
once.
So
this
is
where
we
hopefully
can
help
them
get
through
that
process
as
quickly
and
painlessly
as
possible.
So
in
that
Branch
we
have
four
project
managers.
D
These
are
all
design
professionals,
either
Architects
or
something
like
that:
a
resource
management
analyst
and
one
branch
manager
right
now
there
are
1000
930
active
projects,
and
these
go
back
quite
a
quite
a
ways
in
the
years,
and
it
doesn't
mean
that
they're
not
done
it's
just
they
haven't
closed
out
these
projects
for
one
reason
or
another
and
I
will
tell
you
just
from
my
experience
and
I
see
it
there's
a
superintendent
in
the
room
too.
D
These
projects
will
open
and
usually
stay
open
for
several
years
because
of
the
nature
of
construction
delays
and
even
when
they're
finished
they're
not
quite
finished
yet,
so
they
also
work
with
property
transactions,
and
these
are
incredibly
important
because
this
is
part
of
that
planning
process.
Districts
need
to
buy
land
and
there's
a
lot
of
issues
that
we
work
through
with
land
there's
easements
Road
adequacy.
D
You
want
to
make
sure,
obviously
the
land
you're
buying
does
not
have
some
kind
of
fault
line,
underneath
it
or
sinkholes,
and
things
like
that,
so
the
branch
has
been
very
effective
at
helping
districts
buy
land,
that's
appropriate
for
use.
Of
course,
size
is
important
too
there's
this
campus
model,
where
you
stack
schools
in
one
area
or
in
some
counties,
especially
role
where
you
can
have
much
more
space.
You
may
have
schools
all
over
the
county,
and
so
that's
where
our
Branch
can
step
in
as
well.
D
They
also
work
on
something
that's
very
important
with
District
facility
planning
and
what
this
is
is
every
four
years
or
so
districts
submit
a
district
facility
plan
which
involves
a
local
planning
committee
and
this
local
school
board.
So
it's
two
groups
and
they
will
work
through
this
process
of
updating
their
plan,
no
different
than
your
house.
When
you
walk
around
say:
I
probably
need
a
new
roof
in
a
couple
years,
I'm
going
to
need
to
upgrade
my
HVAC
system
and
things
like
that,
but
on
a
much
larger
scale.
D
This
helps
populate
what
we
call
need
and
unmet
need
and
you'll
hear
this
closer
to
budget
time
of
sfcc
who's
sitting
behind
me
here,
we'll
talk
about
that
a
little
bit
I'm
sure
it's
a
very
important
part
of
this
process.
We
won't
have
accurate
data
there
and,
of
course,
provide
training
and
support.
This
is
becoming
more
and
more
of
an
important
role
of
that
branch
is
to
be
face
to
face
with
districts
or
virtual,
to
provide
training
over
statutes,
regulations
and
processes.
Okay,.
B
I'm
going
to
stop
you,
there
has
the
comprehensive
review
facilities.
Regulations
has
that
streamlined
a
little
bit
so
that
districts
have
a
little
bit
easier
time
getting
through
the
process.
Yes,.
D
It
has
so
Robin
will
speak
on
House
Bill
678
that
was
last
session.
It
has
I
will
say
dramatically
shifted
a
lot
of
the
what
it
calls
kind
of
that
bottleneck
if
you
will
has
shifted
that
or
kind
of
squeezed
it
out,
and
it
has
sped
up
the
processes
quite
a
bit.
The
impact
to
the
branch
is
they
have
a
lot
less
work.
The
review
process,
I
believe
for
districts
is
much
more
fluid
and
easy,
and
so
we've
sort
of
shifted
the
responsibility
back
to
the
districts
and
the
local
school
boards.
B
Okay,
excellent
and
when
you
say
you
provide
the
training,
how
many
people
participate
in
that
training.
D
So
it
varies
initially
I've
been
director
over
two
years
or
so
so
I
started
during
covet
and
we
would
do
virtual
trainings
we'd
have
fairly
decent
attendance
of
anywhere
from
I'd,
say
you
know,
20
to
80
people,
we've
not
quite
stretched
ourselves
out
to
go
back
out
to
the
districts
yet
because
we're
trying
to
develop
some
curriculum
at
this
time,
a
little
bit
different
curriculum
sort
of
a
better
path
to
you
know
this
is
the
training
in
the
order
we
want
you
to.
Take
it
in
I
will
be
honest.
It
is
a
huge
learning
curve.
D
If
you're
a
new
superintendent
I
would
venture
to
say
that
if
you've
not
dealt
with
facilities,
it's
a
very
big
part
of
your
job.
Once
you
step
into
that
row
as
well
as
Finance
officers
too,
of
course,
Architects.
These
are
independent,
Architects
that
work
on
courthouses
and
Office
Buildings,
and
then
the
school
districts
are
all
going
to
be
a
little
bit
different.
So
I
think
we
have
a
large
audience
and
the
opportunities
there
to
actually
provide
training
to
a
lot
more
people.
Our
connection
with
the
K
groups,
ksba.
We
just
did
a
training
up
there.
D
D
Include
planning
execution,
construction
and
one
of
the
bigger
not
to
dive
too
deep
in
the
details,
but
as
a
planning
guide
that
the
department
uses
which
is
incorporated
into
a
regulation
and
it
talks
about
spaces
and
that's
one
of
the
updates
we're
doing
through
a
regulation
review
since
probably
2000,
eight
right,
2013
or
eight
I'm,
sorry,
I
forget
the
year
when
it
was
last
updated,
a
lot
has
changed
in
the
design
world.
What
we
had
back
then,
was
very
different
than
what
we
need
today.
D
So
we've
been
working
with
districts,
Architects
construction
managers
to
revamp
that
guide
so
that
building
these
new
schools.
We
have
much
more
concern
about
school
safety,
obviously,
now
than
we
did
many
years
ago,
school
health,
frisky
offices,
different
types
of
spaces
that
quite
simply
didn't
exist
years
ago.
Collaboration
areas
and
things
like
that
of
that
nature,
as
well.
D
Thank
you.
So,
as
with
any
good
government
program,
you
have
to
have
an
acronym
I'm,
not
sure
if
that's
law
but
we'll
treat
it
as
such
kfix
Kentucky
facilities,
inventory
and
classification
system.
This
gets
tossed
around
quite
a
bit
out
in
the
districts.
It's
been
in
place
now
for
quite
a
while,
but
there
is
a
statutory
requirement
that
we
standardize
the
process,
and
this
report
is
available
online
and
typically
will
provide
it
to
the
general
assembly,
I
believe
in
October
before
the
budget.
D
So
it's
coming
up
several
months
from
now,
there
will
be
an
updated
report.
However,
in
the
interim
we
do
provide
updates,
basically
on
a
monthly
basis,
so
you
can
always
go
out
and
check.
It
is
available
online,
it's
a
very
large
spreadsheet,
with
a
lot
of
data,
but
very
important
data
for
school
districts
as
well,
and.
D
D
D
If
you
want
to
you
know
sort
of
contract
it
out
to
your
architect,
one
benefit
out
of
that
is
you
know,
being
current
on
Ada
standards
or
American
Disabilities
Act,
and
you
know
certain
issues
that
are
newer,
that
your
staff
may
not
be
aware
of,
but
should
be
a
comprehensive
review
of
life
safety
issues.
I'll
just
go
over
a
few
of
these
to
save
some
time,
instructional
areas,
obviously
the
mechanical
electrical
Plumbing
things
of
that
nature,
the
age
of
the
buildings,
the
feasibility
of
additions
and
Renovations.
D
Obviously,
if
you're
really
squeezed
in
in
an
area
in
an
independent
District,
there's
stuff
kind
of
packed
around
you
and
demonstrate
at
Frankfurt
High,
you
may
not
be
able
to
do
an
addition,
because
you
just
don't
have
the
land
and
out
in
the
middle
of
Graves
County.
You
may
have
20
acres
to
build
on,
so
they
have
very
different
concerns.
The
capacity
of
these
facilities,
one
of
the
things
we
you
know
really
stress
with
districts,
is
look
at
how
you're
using
the
buildings
a
600
student
school.
D
That's
got
700
students
and
it's
it's
very
tight
squeeze.
But,
alternatively,
you
may
have
schools
that
have
much
less
of
a
population
in
there
as
well,
and
then
very
important
too
is
the
projected
enrollment
growth
because
we're
building
for
the
future.
There
is
a
process
that
gets
into
some
planning
about
when
they
develop
the
district
facility
plan
to
project
their
enrollment
growth
appropriately,
using
some
studies
so
that
they're,
not
overbuilding
or
under
building
for
that
matter,.
B
D
D
This
is
again
an
objective
assessment,
including
processes
to
collect,
integrate
and
maintain
assessment
data,
but
very
important
on
the
back
end
is
this
quality
assurance.
This
is
basically
our
version
of
We're
internally
testing.
The
data
make
sure
it's
accurate
as
much
to
the
extent
possible
our
project
managers
are
your
licensed.
Professionals
are
kind
of
coming
in
behind
them
and
reviewing
it
as
well
to
make
sure
the
data
we're
getting
is
accurate,
that's
very
important
to
us,
as
these
reports
will
be
used.
D
Obviously,
by
the
general
assembly,
as
well
as
school
districts
when
they
go
to
plan
and
go
through
their
local
planning
committee,
you
know
this
this
public
facing
data.
We
wanted
to
obviously
be
accurate,
so
some
interesting
numbers
a
little
bit
over
1400
buildings
in
there
now
to
be
clear.
This
system
is
not.
We
don't
require
the
use
by
districts.
We've
got
132
districts
that
have
participated,
participated
in
this
so
far.
We
always
politely
want
more,
but
it's
not
mandatory
at
this
time.
D
B
D
D
It
fluctuates
if
you
will
and
one
sort
of
short
answer
to
that
is
the
maintenance
of
that
building
and
if
you
have
a
100
year
old
building
and
let's
just
kind
of
compare
an
apple
to
Apple
to
districts
with
100
Year
buildings.
The
quality
of
the
construction,
obviously
a
hundred
years
ago,
makes
a
difference.
Renovations
that
they've
done
makes
a
difference
and
I
think
as
well
as
their
maintenance.
D
If
districts
put
you
know
additional
funding
in
the
maintenance
of
these
buildings,
it
will
obviously
you
know,
keep
that
building
in
great
shape,
but
at
the
same
time
it
does.
Arguably
you
know,
hurt
them
as
far
as
getting
a
lower
ranking.
If
you
will
but
I
think
think
too,
as
these
more
schools
come
online
to
this
report,
it
will
push
some
of
these
districts.
Buildings
back
and
forth:
that's
a
frequent
complaint
and
one
that
we
take
very
seriously.
D
We've
had
some
of
our
staff
review
the
same
situations
in
other
districts
to
make
sure
is
this
calibrated
correctly
or,
and
we
may
review
the
work
that
the
third
party
architect
did
to
say.
Is
this
accurate
and
that's
one
reason
we
continue
to
do
the
quality
assurance
we
want
to
make
sure
everyone's
on
the
same
playing
field
to
the
extent
possible
and
have
accurate
data
as
well.
D
D
This
is
like
I
said
public
facing,
so
any
constituent
can
see
this
data
out
there
and
I
think
there's
Great
Value,
especially
when
you
start
a
planning
process
when
Franklin,
County
or
Frankfurt
independent
starts
their
planning
process
being
informed,
is
going
to
accelerate
that
process
and
make
really
help
them
make
really
good
decisions
on
where
they
want
the
next
couple
years
to
go
with
their
facilities.
Some
of
the
challenges
incomplete
information.
That's
this
is
a
challenge
anytime.
You
collect
data
and
investment
in
time
and
resources
AKA
money.
D
Some
districts
are
reluctant
to
do
this
because
the
cost
it
will
vary
by
District,
but
some
we've
spoken
to
saw
once
they
got
into
it.
There
was
incredible
value
and
it's
a
larger
District.
Obviously,
with
an
inventory
system
of
your
buildings,
I
imagine
Jefferson,
Fayette
Boone,
you
know
all
that
data
at
your
touch
of
your
fingertips
is
a
really
good
thing
to
have,
as
course,
too.
D
D
Thank
you.
So
the
next
topic
is
just
House
Bill
33.
This
was
last
session.
Representative
branscome
introduced
this
bill
and
it
passed.
This
was
a
couple
things
inside
this
bill.
One
was
the
efficient,
School
design
trust
fund.
This
basically
became
obsolete
over
time,
so
it
was
removed.
Another
one
was
some
reporting
requirements
that
were
in
statute
for
efficient
School
design,
The
Architects
working
with
the
districts.
D
Obviously,
efficiency
is
a
a
huge
factor
in
the
design
of
these
buildings
that
includes
geothermal,
solar,
all
kinds
of
different
things
that
they're
now
applying
you
know
much
more
modern
than
the
statute
was
at
the
time.
This
also
I
think
there
was
an
amendment
that
pushed
in
some
language
that
would
allow
local
review
of
the
construction
instead
of
housing
bills.
D
Instructions
in
Frankfurt
that
would
allow
some
counties
to
do
local
review,
which
would
accelerate
that
process
and
the
the
one
that's
a
little
odd
in
here
is
the
water
bottle
filling
stations,
and
it's
not
that
we
were
anti-water
bottle
filling
stations,
but
we
had
this
in
two
places.
It
is
in
the
building
code,
so
they
are
required
to
put
it
in,
but
it
was
also
in
statute.
D
D
E
Chair
Banta
and
members
of
the
committee
we're
now
going
to
talk
about
House
Bill,
678,
House,
Bill
678
was
passed
in
the
last
General
Assembly
session
and
really
changed
the
way
that
the
Kentucky
Department
of
Education
interacts
with
our
local
school
districts.
It
did
pass
with
an
emergency
clause
and
the
reason
that
678
was
so
important
at
the
time
that
it
was
passed.
It
was
really
in
in
response
to
sort
of
the
delay
that
was
impacting
construction
projects
at
your
local
districts
and
increasing
costs
that
were
happening
as
a
result
of
that.
E
While
we
were
waiting
on
approvals
to
happen
so
as
of
3-1
2023
153
districts
have
adopted
and
operate
under
the
provisions
of
House
Bill
678,
so
the
vast
majority
of
our
districts
are
now
operating
in
that
manner,
which
means
they
don't
have
to
come
to
KDE
for
certain
like
approvals
in
advance.
So
it's
really
helped
with
the
efficiency
and
expedited
the
process
that
the
local
level
all
the
statutes
and
regs
that
are
currently
in
place
in
the
facilities
world
for
local
school
districts.
They
still
have
to
be
followed.
E
It
really
is
just
a
shift
of
that
responsibility
and
accountability
and
the
decision-making
process
more
to
the
district
level
in
certain
areas,
and
that
affects
construction
when
you're
starting
your
financing,
renovation
or
modification
of
any
of
your
District
facility
projects.
Of
course,
KDE
is
still
available
to
provide
technical
assistance
and
guidance
to
any
districts
that
are
operating
under
678
and
for
those
few
districts
that
have
chosen
not
to
do
that.
We
still
operate
in
the
former
process
where
they
come
to
us.
E
B
E
So
the
biggest
portion
of
what
we
continue
to
work
on
with
our
facility
staff
right
now
is
the
requirement
under
678
for
us
to
do
a
comprehensive
review
of
all
our
statutes,
our
regulations,
our
processes,
our
manuals,
and
so
that's
taken
a
lot
of
our
staff
time,
which
luckily,
we
could
devote
to
that.
Instead
of
doing
the
pre-approvals
for
our
local
school
districts,
so
678
did
both
of
those
at
the
same
time
shifted
responsibility
to
the
local
school
districts
and
freed
up
time
for
us
to
really
do
this
comprehensive
review.
Do.
E
E
Also
as
part
of
678.
We
do
have
a
requirement
that
we
have
30
business
days
to
approve
completed
District
facility
plans
and
requests
for
acquisition
of
property
or
just
disposal
of
that
property,
and
on
this
slide
you
can
see
we
are
averaging
about
8.9
days
for
the
approval
of
dfps
and
10.4
days
for
property
acquisition.
E
So
that's
a
piece
that
678
still
had
us
actively
participating
in,
but
just
gave
us
a
30
business
day
deadline
to
make
sure
that
those
were
happening
bg-1s,
which
are
the
documents
that
come
to
the
department,
really
defining
the
scope
of
the
project,
the
funding
for
the
project
in
the
past.
We
were
also
approving
those,
but
we
we
no
longer
do
that.
Instead,
they
are
just
filed
with
us
for
record
keeping
and
data
collection.
So
we're
not
reviewing
any
of
that
for
compliance
with
the
statutes
and
regs
another
important
piece
of
678.
E
Is
it
allowed
extracurricular
facilities
to
be
access,
restricted
funds,
and
that
was
something
that
was
not
permitted
before
678.?
We
really
see
that,
as
a
benefit
to
our
local
school
districts,
in
addressing
really
the
whole
child
and
being
able
to
use
those
funds
to
address
extracurricular
facilities
that
they
previously
were
using
their
own
funds.
For.
Lastly,
KDE
still
has
to
Prior
approve
any
projects
that
are
using
federal
funds,
and
this
is
specifically
true
with
the
coronavirus
relief
funds.
B
E
That
yeah,
so
with
all
the
federal
funding,
that's
coming
not
only
for
facilities
but
for
other
operations
of
the
federal
funds
it
has
to
be
related
to
either
protect,
prevent
or
respond
to
the
coronavirus
pandemic.
So
that's
number
one
in
order
to
use
those
funds
number
two
you
have
to.
You
have
to
be
reasonable
and
necessary
in
your
cost,
and
you
also
have
to
follow
the
uniform
code
guidance
on
expenditure
funds.
So
these
are
things
that
districts.
E
We
did
678
also
gave
us
a
scope
of
review,
so
that
is
a
chair
to
the
to
your
question.
What
what
is
our
staff
doing
so
much
right
now,
678
set
a
scope
of
a
review
for
us
to
look
at
all
the
processes
and
procedures,
the
regs,
the
statutes
the
manuals
and
to
identify
needed
updates
due
to
changes
in
the
facility
design
how
we
operate
our
schools
and
the
construction
industry
in
the
economy.
E
Also,
we
were
asked
to
look
at
the
most
commonly
granted
waivers
school
districts
prior
to
678
and
even
now
can
come
to
us
and
ask
for
a
waiver
from
the
regulations
as
long
as
it
doesn't
impact
safety
or
health.
And
so
we
have
three
of
the
most
commonly
granted
waivers
that
we
have
looked
at
and,
as
we
have
looked
at
the
comprehensive
review,
we've
tried
to
build
in
things
to
help
correct
the
need
for
those
waivers,
those
included
site
acquisition
and
prep
exceeding
10
percent
of
the
project.
E
E
We
are
also
in
the
process
of
reviewing
all
those
procedures.
We're
also
asked
to
consult
with
housing,
building
and
construction
to
really
see
if
there
is
any
duplication
of
our
services.
So
we've
done
that
and
there
and
then
they
are
September
1st
2023.
We
are
to
submit
a
written
report
to
lrc
and
to
include
any
recommended
changes
to
consider
in
the
2024
regular
session.
E
B
E
House
Bill
421,
actually
that's
been
filed
this
session
and
is
sort
of
like
a
phase
two
of
678
and
contemplates
removing
that
prior
approval
from
KDE
for
property
Acquisitions
we
would
be.
We
would
encourage
districts
to
be
very
cautious
about
that,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
districts
really
appreciate
sort
of
the
statutes
and
the
regs
and
all
the
requirements
you
need
to
look
at
when
you
purchase
property.
E
So
so
we
we
are
recommending
that
the
training
component
is
very,
very
important
in
order
for
all
the
statutes
and
regs,
but
specifically
about
purchase
or
property.
We
don't
want
our
districts
to
get
in
a
situation
where
they
purchase
some
Prof
property
and
then
down
the
road.
They
realized
that
there's
something
that
that
might
be
detrimental
to
the
local
school
district
we
have
gone
through.
We
are
currently
still
in
a
review
process,
we're
soliciting
input
and
feedback
from
lots
of
different
groups
that
you
see
on
the
screen.
E
We
convened
a
local
school
district
work
group
in
the
summer
of
2021,
then
678
came
in
the
spring
of
2022.
We
have
been
going
through
this
review
and
we've
recently
in
February
reconfine
reconvene
that
facilities
local
school
district
work
group
talk
to
them
about
our
recommendations,
got
feedback
from
them
again
and
then
Jay
and
I
are
going
to
really
be
on
a
road
show
over
the
next
several
months,
sharing
sort
of
recommendations
and
continuing
to
receive
feedback.
Okay,.
F
D
Sure
so,
as
part
of
that
planning
process,
if
and
I'll
I'll
choose
Franklin
County,
just
because
it's
in
my
backyard,
but
as
they
look
at
their
schools,
some
are
going
to
be.
You
know
tagged
as
permanent.
Some
will
be
tagged
as
transitional
meaning
as
they
as
time
goes.
They
expect
to
eventually
close
that
school
or
consolidate
schools,
or
in
some
cases
the
population
may
not
support
that
large
of
a
building
and
that
consolidation
conversation
has
to
occur
at
the
district.
D
Obviously,
if
it's
some
elementaries,
if
you've
got
too
many
of
those,
and
you
can
consolidate,
you
know,
they're,
looking
for
obviously
efficiencies
with
respect
to
you
know
parents
and
where
they
live,
and
how
long
is
the
students
on
the
bus
and
things
like
that,
but
that
is
still
part
of
that
process
of
they
will
select
if
these
buildings
are
permanent
or
transitional.
Thank.
F
B
E
You
House
Bill
678
to
your
question
again,
has
been
really
beneficial.
We
think
for
local
school
districts
as
well
as
for
the
department
and
so
you'll
see
coming
out
of
our
recommendations.
We
are
supportive
of
permanent
statutory
revisions
to
effectuate.
A
lot
of
the
provisions
of
678.
E
678
is
scheduled
right
now
to
expire
in
September
of
2024.,
so
we
are
proposing
some
of
those
Provisions
become
more
permanent,
including
them
continuing
to
operate
under
those
Provisions
which
will
allow
them
to
move
forward
with
funding
and
construction.
Renovations
and
modifications.
However,
you'll
see
there's
a
phrase
at
the
end
of
that
first
bullet.
We
do
think
appropriate.
Professional
development
of
our
District
staff
is
really
important.
E
We
and
you
can
see
on
the
slide
in
the
interest
of
time.
There
are
other
things
that
we
really
think
are
good
about
House
Bill
678
and
would
recommend
that
they
continue.
E
E
We
have
posted
our
work
group,
recording
and
sort
of
the
summary
minutes
from
that
on
our
KDE
website,
so
that
they
can
see
what
the
work
group
has
always
already
reported
back
to
us,
trying
to
just
give
as
many
opportunities
for
our
local
school
district
to
provide
input
in
and
weigh
in
on
this
issue.
It's
a
really
important
issue.
It's
a
lot
of
work
work
and
we're
just
trying
to
reach
the
best
result
for
both
the
Department
of
Education
and
our
local
school
districts
when
it
comes
to
facilities.
B
I
do
have
one
more
question
and
then
I'm
going
to
stop
I
promise,
but
there's
something
and
I
apologize.
I've
got
a
text,
something
called
special
projects.
How
are
those
identified
for
funding.
D
So
that's
probably
referring
to
offers
special
offers
of
assistance
and
so
part
of
kfix
and
again
this
is
a
function
of
the
general
assembly.
Typically,
you
know
right
during
the
budget
session.
If
you
can
look
through
the
budget,
Bill
you'll
see
a
list
of
the
districts
that
are
getting
special
offers
of
assistance
which
are
sent
through
the
school
facilities.
Construction
commission
sitting
behind
the
air
part
of
the
input
to
that
decision
is
the
ranking
in
kfix.
Another
option
is
to
look
at
how
many
tax
nickels
the
district
has
restricted
for
facilities.
D
So
that's
you
may
get
some
questions
from
your
local
districts
about.
Well,
we've
done
kfix
and
here's
where
we're
ranked
you
know.
Are
we
low
enough
to
get
a
special
offer
of
assistance?
And
you
know
we
just
basically
provide
that
information
and
they
may
determine
that
they're.
Looking
at
buildings
that
are
over
40
years
old
that
meet
the
remainder
of
this
criteria.
They've
got
an
extra
nickel
and
they've
already
got
a
project
or
plan
in
place
and
they
have
the
land
ready
to
go.
There's
all
these
conditions.
D
A
Okay,
so
it's
not
really
specific
to
your
presentation,
but
it
is
specific
to
facilities
so
I'm
going
to
talk
about
bathrooms
and
it's
my
understanding
that
Fayette
County
has
a
new
school
being
built
that
has
a
different
sort
of
design
for
the
bathrooms,
the
the
number
of
hours
that
teachers
have
to
spend
that
could
be
used
for
instructional
minutes
taking
children
as
a
group
to
the
restroom
and
then
I
mean
I.
Don't
know
why
boys
want
to
play
in
the
boys
room,
but
there's
always
something
going
on.
A
But
it's
my
understanding
in
the
design
at
the
Fayette
County
school
is
that
it's
more
of
a
Universal
Design,
so
each
child
can
go
in
an
individual,
closed
stall.
But
then
the
washing
your
hands
area
is
a
community
area.
So
you
know
whether
it's
a
boys
room
or
a
girl's
room.
It
doesn't
matter
because
each
person
is
going
in
one
individual,
enclosed,
shut
door
stall.
Do
you
have
any
thoughts
on
that?
I
mean
I,
know
that
there
are
regulations
and
so
forth.
D
So
I'm,
not
a
design
professional,
nor
should
I
ever
pretend
to
be
I.
Don't
really
have
any
comments
on
that
other
than
I
think
as
a
department
we're
more
concerned
if
it
meets
code,
that's
very
important.
Obviously,
fire
safety
live
stuff.
Health
issue
or
health
is
another
thing
we
look
at
as
we
work
through
this
regulation
process
and
our
planning
manual
and
I
strongly
encourage
you.
D
We
really
would
like
X
whatever
X
is
we
really
want
collaborative
areas
for
teachers
and
students
and
the
design
professionals
being
the
professionals
they
are,
can
come
up
with
some
very
interesting
things
and
offers
to
the
school
board
to
think
about
they'll.
Look
at
obviously
other
schools
in
the
state,
but
also
out
of
state
I,
know
you
know
being
driving
by
a
couple
of
these
schools.
You
know
imminence,
for
example,
did
something
very
interesting
with
their
Library
I
had
not
seen
before,
and
thank
you
back
to
my
school.
D
Our
library
was
basically
a
square
room
that
was
it.
I
was
very
utilitarian
and
that's
just
how
it
is,
but
I
think
as
part
of
that
planning
process.
That's
why
you
need
public
engagement.
You
need
that
professional
engagement,
as
well
as
local
school
board
engagement
and
get
get
the
type
of
school
that
you
want,
and
we
would
obviously
support
that
local
decision
making
to
say
this
is
how
we
want
to
build
our
school
and
that's
why
I
think
in
our
upcoming
regulation
changes
at
least
the
proposed
ones.
D
We've
added
a
lot
more
flexibility
in
that
process.
It
was
a
little
too
prescriptive,
in
my
opinion,
very
sort
of
handcuffed
to
keep
the
design
professionals
from
really
having
too
much
light
to
and
I
hope,
we've
kind
of
moved
the
needle
the
other
way.
So
there's
a
lot
more
flexibility
in
there.
Thank
you.
B
B
G
This
morning
or
this
afternoon,
we're
just
going
to
give
a
brief,
a
very
brief
overview
of
the
sfcc
and
some
of
our
latest
Appropriations.
In
the
last
two
sessions
we
are
in
office
of
two
people,
you're
looking
at
the
entire
office,
we
have
a
nine
person
commission
and
together
we
help
with
the
funding
of
all
the
school
facilities
in
the
state.
G
G
In
order
to
help
fill
the
Gap,
we
seek
legislative
Appropriations
each
year
to
pay
our
share
of
the
debt.
So
in
January
of
2022
we
were
given
58
million
for
offers
of
assistance
to
be
distributed.
Among
the
171
districts
for
January
of
2024,
we
will
be
giving
out
85
million
in
those
special
offers
of
assistance.
G
G
Just
to
kind
of
give
you
an
overview
of
what
we're
seeing
as
far
as
construction,
wise,
you
can
see.
I've
put
you
know:
different
school
facilities,
their
square
footage
and
the
price
per
square
foot.
Obviously
everyone
knows
contractors
are
experiencing
record
price
increases
for
different
materials
supply
chain
issues,
that's
definitely
causing
some
Financial
strain
on
these
districts.
I
think
the
saving
and
the
planning
phase
is
becoming
much
longer
just
for
a
comparison
in
June
of
2020
we'll
we
built
a
new
Elementary
School
in
Bardstown.
G
G
That
is
one
reason
our
debt
issuance
has
slowed
for
this
fiscal
year,
we've
issued
less
than
20
issuances,
which
is
very
small
for
us.
Compared
to
just
two
years
ago,
we
were
more
than
40.
G
This
is
just
kind
of
a
snapshot
of
what
we
see
with
these
bonds.
We
are
General
funds
supported
debt.
We
enter
into
participation
agreements
with
these
school
districts,
so
the
bonds
are
not
actually
issued
in
this,
the
state's
name
it's
issued
in
the
school
district's
name,
and
we
just
provide
the
debt
service
support
for
our
portion.
All
of
our
bonds
are
a
20-year
term.
G
We
have
two
payments
on
every
bond
that
issues,
issues
and
I
kind
of
broke
that
down
just
for
this
specific
scenario
as
a
38
million
dollar
Bond-
and
you
can
see
the
district's
portion
for
this
year
and
what
we
will
be
paying
this
year
on
that
specific
Bond.
You
can
also
see
I
gave
you
a
snapshot
of
interest
rate,
which
is
also
another
reason.
Debt
issuance
has
slowed
just
in
a
year.
You
can
see
February
of
2022.
G
G
So
when
we
talk
about
some
of
the
special
offers
of
assistance,
so
the
legislature
appropriated
75
million
in
2021.
to
local
area
vocational
education
centers,
these
are
local
operated
centers.
The
sfcc
board
voted
on
these
projects,
so
just
to
give
you
an
update,
they're
all
moving
forward.
Some
are
in
the
design
phase.
A
few
have
issued
bonds
and
have
started
construction.
A
couple
of
them
are
also
doing
cash
projects
and
not
issuing
debt.
G
This
is
an
appropriation
that
is
based
upon
the
kfix
report
that
Jay
and
Robin
talked
about
it's
196
million.
All
districts
have
received
their
funding,
they
received
it
last
summer
and
they
are
also
either
in
the
design
phase.
Very
few
have
sold
Bonds
on
this
list.
G
And
again,
another
155
million
that
was
appropriated
for
local
area
vocational
centers.
This
legislation
was
a
little
different.
This
time
around,
it
did
require
districts
to
contribute.
10
percent
of
the
total
project
costs
with
local
funding,
whether
that
be
local
cash,
general
fund
or
local
bonds
that
they
can
sell
on
their
own.
All
these
projects
are
all
moving
forward.
G
Most
of
the
money
has
gone
out,
but
we
still
have
a
few
stragglers
that
we're
waiting
for
BG
ones
and
different
things,
so
we
can
see
their
sources
of
funding
to
send
that
money.
G
B
Gonna
interrupt
you.
How
many
of
these
school
districts
have
a
gap
that
you
awarded
money
to
have
a
gap
due
to
inflation
because
of
construction.
G
I
would
say
all
of
them
at
this
point.
I
think
that's
why
most
of
them
they've
received
the
money,
but
the
projects
aren't
starting.
Okay,.
B
B
G
B
Okay,
good
thank
you,
representative
Lewis,
just.
F
One
question:
maybe
a
statement
too,
but
can
you
talk
a
little
bit?
You
know
school
districts,
sometimes
you're
talking
about
bonding
school
districts
are
by
building
their
bond
may
be
four
percent
two
three
years
down
the
road
you
may
be
able
to
bond
for
2.5
or
something-
and
it's
just
another
way
for
school
districts,
to
save
on
a
project
that
they've
already
done.
Can
you
touch
a
little
bit
on
that.