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Everything's
going
on
it
happens
this
time
of
year.
Everybody
welcome
to
small
business
and
information
technology.
Meeting
me
number
three
on
our
agenda.
We
have
one
bill,
we're
going
to
hear
real
fast,
hopefully
not
real,
fast.
We're
going
to
hear
at
this
point
time
with
everyone
when
you
re,
when
you
announce
yourself,
please
let
us
know
if
you
are
in
your
annex
office
or
if
you're
at
home
up
on
truck.
Please
call
row.
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C
A
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Thank
you
committee
members,
josh
branscomb,
state
representative
district
83,.
D
D
happy
to
be
joined
here
by
representative
cole
carney,
and
I
appreciate
her
work
on
this
bill
as
well
and
her
commitment
to
serving
the
commonwealth.
Well,
we
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here.
Over
1.3
million
kentuckians
have
filed
unemployment
claims
during
the
pandemic
and
through
no
fault
of
their
own.
These
hardworking
men
and
women
lost
their
paycheck
health
benefits
motion
on
the
bill.
A
second.
C
B
Representative
beckler
aye
representative
bo
janowski,
you've
got
it
yes,
representative,
branscombe.
D
E
E
C
C
D
C
C
A
Yes,
I
want
to
thank
you
guys
for
bringing
such
a
great
bipartisan
bill
carney
and
mr
branson.
It
is
past.
Favorable
expression
expect
to
do
so
in
the
house.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Well,
our
next
guest,
please
approach,
and
we
have
members
going
to
be
leaving
not
just
they're
mad
at
us,
but
they
have
other
commitments
in
other
committees
that
they've
got
to
also
get
to
get
going.
So
I
I
realized
gotta
be
the
schedule,
then,
as
we
get
into
this,
please
address
the
approach,
a
podium
there
introduce
yourself
for
the
record,
and
I
also
would
like
to
recognize
some
of
the
guests.
We
have
also.
A
Thank
you
guys.
I
also
also
have
on
the
call
with
today
sarah
wilson
from
paducah,
if
you
guys,
wave
kate,
katie
jacobs
from
prospect
bradley
stevenson
from
lexton
maurice
and
neal
from
louisville
kelly
workman
from
hopkinsville
lately,
scott
from
louisville
kristin
david
from
campbellsville
crystal
rourkes.
I
read
that
from
flemingsburg
elizabeth
whimset,
I'm
probably
slaughtered
at
sorry
about
that
from
bardstown
susan
coblin
from
frankfurt
and
deanna
herman
from
london.
Glad
to
have
you
guys
here
today.
If
I
might
remind
you
if
you're
not
speaking,
please
keep
on
mute.
If
not
at
this
point
time.
G
Well,
thank
you
again,
mr
chairman,
for
allowing
us
to
be
here
and
for
the
members
for
for
entertaining
us
today.
We
know
that
small
businesses
are
the
backbone
of
kentucky's
economy,
but
they're
also
the
backbone
of
the
kentucky
chamber
of
commerce.
Small
businesses,
with
less
than
100
employees,
make
up
two-thirds
of
our
members
and
our
membership
on
policy
councils.
Those
policy
councils
are
where
our
agenda
is
formed
and
and
developed.
Small
businesses
involvement
in
our
policy
councils
ensure
that
our
advocacy
and
our
agenda
properly
reflect
and
prioritizes
the
needs
of
small
businesses
across
kentucky.
G
Today
we
have
with
us
sarah
davis,
wisdom
of
gli
kailyn
query,
who
is
our
small
business
council
chair
and
conrad
daniels,
who
serves
as
the
small
business
representative
on
our
executive
committee.
We
appreciate
their
leadership
in
gathering
input
from
small
businesses
and
amplifying
the
policy
needs
of
those
small
businesses
which
we
are
here
to
discuss
today
to
start
us
off.
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
the
importance
that
the
kentucky
chamber
agenda
places
on
strengthening
our
workforce.
G
Effective
workforce
training
programs
are
critical,
but
too
many
employers
continue
to
struggle
in
their
efforts
to
find
people
with
the
right
skills
for
the
jobs
they
have
available.
We
are
pleased
to
see
several
pieces
of
legislation
on
the
move.
This
session,
including
house
bill
25,
that
removes
the
requirement
that
an
eligible
high
school
student
or
an
eligible
student
not
be
convicted
of
a
felony
for
keys
eligibility.
This
prevents
one
mistake
from
essentially
keeping
students
out
of
the
workforce.
G
The
educational
attainment
of
older
workers,
those
between
25
and
64,
continues
to
be
present
a
significant
challenge
for
kentucky
the
chamber
supports
initiatives
designed
to
meet
these
challenges,
such
as
the
kentucky
adult
education
system's
effort
to
increase
the
number
of
people
earning
a
ged.
We
also
support
house
bill
253,
which
is
the
fafsa
requirement
bill
that
would
help
more
students
know
what
financial
resources
they
have
available
to
get
them
a
degree
or
certificate,
as
we
must
continue
to
upskill.
Our
workforce
in
order
to
keep
kentucky
competitive,
especially
as
we
recover
from
covid19.
H
Thank
you
all
for
having
us
and
thank
you
to
the
chamber
for
setting
this
up
and
for
advocating
on
our
behalf
for
supporting
economic
recovery
for
small
businesses.
As
mentioned
before.
My
name
is
kalyn
query
I
own
lexington
event
company,
which
is
an
event
planning
and
management
firm,
we're
based
in
lexington,
and
I
own
lex
effect
venues,
which
is
a
venue
management
company.
So
I'm
sure
you
can
imagine,
we've
been
shut
down
for
a
while.
H
To
give
you
a
little
background
between
the
two
companies
we
shut
down
march
17th,
and
we
are
just
now
starting
to
reopen
with
regulations
and
guidelines.
We
are
down
collectively
between
the
two,
a
little
over
400
000
for
2020
compared
to
the
previous
year,
which
it
doesn't
sound
like
a
lot,
but
for
small
business,
that's
a
significant
amount.
You
know:
bills
like
senate
bill,
67
that
continue
to
allow
alcohol
to
being
purchased
for
to-go
delivery
and,
in
conjunction
with
a
meal,
is
proven
to
provide
much-needed
support
for
the
hospitality
industry.
H
You
know
not
just
bars
and
restaurants,
but
catering
companies,
venues
and
other
hospitality
and
tourism.
Related
organizations
have
been
hit
like
everybody
else,
but
we
are
still
somewhat
closed.
We
can
open
currently
with
between
30
and
50
capacity,
with
a
lot
of
other
guidelines
that
changes
the
nature
of
any
kind
of
event,
and
we
want
to
do
so
safely,
but
we
also
want
to
make
sure
that
we
survive.
H
We
continue
to
face
challenges
as
small
businesses
and
we're
not
out
of
the
crisis.
Yet,
while
we've
benefited
from
federal
programs
intended
to
get
us
through
this
difficult
year,
state
policy
can
help
us
continue
to
recover
economically
and
manage
support.
That's
no
longer
in
place
this
past
year's
brought
challenges,
unlike
anything
we've
ever
seen
and
again,
it
impacts
small
businesses
more
so
than
anything
else.
Our
exposure
to
liability
claims
is
constantly
on
my
mind.
As
a
small
business
owner.
H
We
can
do
everything
right
that
doesn't
mean
that
we're
not
going
to
potentially
get
sued
and
that's,
of
course,
on
top
of
a
significant
loss
that
we're
already
facing
and
potential
added
expense
in
legal
costs
and
other
service
fees.
Protecting
small
business
from
frivolous
lawsuits
before
the
end
of
the
session
is
critical.
H
Small
businesses,
along
with
schools
and
health
care
heroes,
deserve
the
protection
from
those
lawsuits
related
to
covet
19
that
could
force
even
more
businesses
to
close
their
doors.
Advertising
for
these
lawsuits
has
already
started
throughout
the
nation,
and
so
we're
asking
for
the
passage
of
senate
bill
5,
which
has
meaningful
protections
to
provide
the
certainty
we
need
to
get
back
to
business.
H
H
One
bill
that
we
want
to
thank
you
for
is
house
bill,
278,
which
conforms
kentucky
tax
law,
allowing
deductions
for
proceeds
related
to
forgiven
loans
such
as
the
ppp
I
personally
did
receive
both
the
first
and
second
draft
of
ppp,
which
was
critical
to
keeping
my
employees
afloat.
As
I
said,
we
were
completely
shut
down
and,
unlike
other
companies
with
a
product
that
they
can
still
sell,
I'm
a
service
based
business
so
without
physically
doing
the
event.
H
There's
not
a
lot
of
revenue
I
can
bring
in
which
kept
my
10
employees
between
full-time
and
part-time
still
employed,
so
that
they
didn't
have
to
sit
at
home,
wondering
how
they
were
going
to
pay
their
bills
takes
millions
out
of
the
hands
of
small
business
leaders
that
could
otherwise
expand
their
workforce.
So
we
thank
you
for
that.
Another
tax
that
is
challenging
is
the
unemployment
insurance
tax
employers
face
a
huge
liability
of
over
1
billion
to
pay
off
our
federal
unemployment
loan
and
replenish
the
trust
fund
to
pre-pandemic
levels.
H
H
You
know
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars
being
paid
by
small
business
owners
to
refund
and
help
replenish
the
loan,
especially
when
folks
were
able
to
deduct
and
take
from
the
loan
who
have
not
contributed
and
never
will
contribute
sole
proprietors
and
others.
You
know
it's
a
lot
of
burden
on
small
businesses
when
we're
already
significantly
down
from
a
pandemic
year
and
have
a
long
way
to
go
to
get
back
to
pre-pandemic
a
place
we'd
like
to
thank
you
for
the
work
you've
done
to
tackle
substance
abuse
disorders.
H
The
chamber
is
concerned
about
the
state's
rising
drug
abuse
problem
and
its
negative
effect
on
the
kentucky
workforce.
We
talked
about
this
last
year
as
well
and
the
including
health
care
costs.
We
support
efforts
to
remove
those
barriers
for
employers
and
people
in
recovery
from
addiction.
Employment
is
the
key
to
their
success
and
to
ours.
So
we
thank
you
for
the
passing
of
the
recovery,
ready
communities
house,
bill,
7
and
hope
to
see
it
pass
in
the
senate.
Thank
you
for
your
time
today.
I
Good
morning,
chairman
pratt
and
members
of
the
committee,
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here-
my
name
is
condrey
daniels,
president
of
hji
supply
chain
solutions.
We
are
proud,
second
generation,
family-owned,
woman-owned,
minority-owned,
third-party
logistics
company
with
six
locations
across
kentucky
and
tennessee,
and
we
are
headquartered
in
louisville
kentucky.
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
We
have
some
suggestions
in
the
achieving
equity
to
build
a
stronger
kentucky
report,
let's
unearth
and
root
out
these
policies
that
continue
to
justify
the
inequality
and
in
in
and
inequities.
We
currently
realize
in
our
state
the
chamber
supports
diversity,
policies
that
enact
equal
opportunity
and
equal
access
policy
changes
are
important
to
narrow
racial
wealth
gaps
and
increase
equity
in
kentucky
improvement
in
support
of
minority
business
enterprises
is
important
to
attract
business,
to
kentucky
and
talent
to
kentucky.
I
I
know
the
legislator
is
tackling
this
issue
in
different
ways.
We
support
legislation
to
form
a
committee
to
deal
with
the
challenges
we
face.
We
hope
that
you
will
use
these
recommendations
of
our
report
to
guide
your
policy
work
in
this
space
and
view
the
business
community
us
as
a
resource
other
priority.
Small
business
value
include
investment
in
our
infrastructure.
I
I
I
Finally,
I
would
ask
that
you,
please
keep
pursuing
policies
that
support
kentucky's
signature
industries
such
as
distilling
equine
and
tourism,
so
many
small
businesses
support
our
signature
industries
and
benefit
from
their
growth
chairman
pratt
and
members
of
the
committee
on
behalf
of
the
small
businesses
and
the
minority
business
community.
Thank
you
for
gifting
us
your
time.
F
F
Small
businesses
represent
a
major
part
of
our
membership
and
they
help
us
craft
our
legislative
agenda.
This
year,
small
businesses
were
outsizedly
impacted
by
the
pandemic
and
had
several
priorities
that
we
keep
emphasizing
over
and
over
again,
some
of
them
have
already
been
mentioned,
but
I'm
going
to
hit
on
them
again.
F
A
big
threat
faced
by
small
businesses
is
the
rising
unemployment
insurance
tax.
We
appreciate
the
steps
that
were
made
as
part
of
house
bill
1,
but
we
believe
that
more
action
is
needed.
Senator
david
givens
has
filed
senate
bill
7,
which
addresses
issues
related
to
ui
benefits
that
were
provided
by
the
state
in
error.
Representative
russell
weber
has
filed
house
bill
413,
which
passed
the
house
yesterday,
which
makes
system
improvements.
F
However,
the
thing
that
will
help
the
ui
system,
the
most,
is
restoring
the
funding
and
putting
as
much
funding
in
the
system
as
possible.
We
believe
this
is
an
incredibly
difficult
time
for
small
businesses
and
it
will
take
additional
funding
paired
with
the
bills
that
I
just
mentioned
to
really
help
small
businesses.
F
I
also
want
to
mention
the
importance
of
allowing
paycheck
paycheck
protection
loans,
expenses
paid
to
be
forgiven.
This
is
very
important
and
it's
again
another
outsize
impact
to
small
businesses,
because
most
of
the
most
of
the
loans
were
forgiven
and
in
louisville
we
had
about
30
percent
of
the
ones
statewide.
F
F
I
also
want
to
spend
a
couple
of
minutes
talking
about
the
importance
of
kentucky
small
business
development
center.
The
kentucky
small
business
development
centers
have
locations
statewide
and
we
have
one
in
our
louisville
office
in
downtown
louisville.
These
centers
have
been
incredibly
impactful
in
helping
small
businesses,
get
information
on
the
triple
p
loans
on
relief
and
guidance
from
the
state,
so
we
are
urging
for
full
funding
for
these
these
centers.
F
These
centers
are
funded
by
a
combination
of
federal
and
state
dollars
and
again
we
we
support
full
funding
in
the
state
budget.
In
addition
to
these
priorities,
I
want
to
briefly
mention
that
we
encourage
lawmakers
to
continue
pursuing
legislation
that
is
beneficial
and
full
funding
for
workforce
development
and
education,
as
well
as
reforms
to
the
criminal
justice
system
that
will
allow
for
more
effective
re-entry.
F
A
J
Yes,
all
right,
thank
you
yeah,
as
a
teacher
phonetically,
it's
just
like
it's
written.
So
if
you
just
sound
it
out,
so
I'm
tina
buccinowski,
I'm
from
louisville.
We
had
a
small
business
in
my
family
from
the
time
I
was
a
senior
in
high
school
until
just
a
few
years
ago,
so
I'm
very
passionate
about
the
needs
of
small
business
owners.
Could
somebody
say
I
mean
just
help
me:
get
an
idea
on
the
increased
potential
increase
in
the
unemployment
tax
contributions?
J
H
If
I
understand
correctly,
the
proposal
right
now
is
a
hunt
potentially
a
hundred
dollars
per
employee
per
year.
So,
if
you
think
about
you
know,
I'm
on
the
small
small
end
of
small
business,
I
have
in
a
busy
year
20
people
in
our
busy
season.
H
But
if
you
look
at
you
know
companies
with
100
people,
I
mean
you're
talking
about
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars
that
they
would
have
to
pay
per
year
to
replenish
that
fund
again
a
fund
that
was
depleted
by
people
who
don't
pay
in
and
will
never
pay
in,
and
we
understand
everyone
needed
to
be
helped
and
and
we're
not
arguing
with
that.
But
that's
a
lot
when
we're
already
down
and
having
to
pay
more
for
so
many
other
things
while
struggling.
H
So
you
know
I
don't
know,
I
don't
have
an
answer
for
you
as
to
what
dollar
amount
zero.
I
don't
know.
J
H
But
some
help
you
know,
and
even
if
that's
a
delay,
which
I
think
is
what
it
says
now
delaying
that
payment
allows
us
to
get
back
to.
You
know
somewhat
of
a
pre-pandemic
state
before
that
added
expense
is
expected
of
us.
Thank.
H
Think
if
you
can
just
have
us
not
pay
anything
that'd
be
great,
that's
probably
not
an
option,
you
know
so
delaying
it
allows
us
to.
You
know
again
just
get
back
to
where
we
can
afford
that
plus
our
employees,
because
eventually
we're
gonna
have
to
start
choosing
between
employees
and
paying
that
tax
I
mean
you
know
there
are
some
businesses
that
will
not
hire.
I
Additional
tax,
and
for
us
I
mean
we
have
close
to
400
employees.
So
with
that
two
and
a
half
month,
gap
with
manufacturing
closing
down.
C
J
I
E
Thank
you
all
for
coming
and
presenting
today
as
a
new
legislator,
it's
always
great
to
get
information
and
we've
got
a
lot
of
it
in
the
last
month
or
so
so
I
appreciate
it
and
a
lot
of
the
bills
that
we're
passing
and
working
on
right
now
have
been
near
and
dear
to
a
lot
of
people
in
this
committee's
heart
and
working
with
you
all.
So
we
appreciate
that.
E
I
just
wanted
to
say
this
that
I
know
a
lot
of
times
that
y'all
get
to
come
and
and
ask
us
for
specific
focuses.
I
appreciate
you.
All's
focus
that
y'all
do
on
reentry
for
people
that
either
have
substance,
abuse
problems
or
felony
issues,
things
of
that
nature.
In
my
other
life,
I
get
the
privilege
to
run
a
transitional
living
home.
So
literally,
almost
every
day
of
my
life
is
spent,
trying
to
find
somebody
with
a
record
a
job,
and
I
would
encourage
you
all
to
continue
to
encourage
your
organizations.
E
E
They
have
to
meet
whether
it
be
a
federal
requirement
or
whatever,
but
being
able
to
help
these
people
get
back
into
job
is
vital
to
keeping
them
from
going
back
into
the
system
from
a
recidivism
rate
standpoint
things
of
that
nature,
and
so
we
appreciate
the
work
that
you
are
doing
on
that,
but
the
more
that
you
can
continue
to
support
the
industries
and
the
businesses
in
your
organizations
to
support
that
it
is
a
great
help
to
our
society.
So
we
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
F
We
are
saying
that
we
want
more
funding
for
infrastructure.
We
believe
it's
very
important
to
invest
in
ourselves
and
when
we
talk
to
companies
that
are
seeking
potential
location
in
louisville
infrastructure
sometimes
comes
up,
and
when
we
want
to
be
competitive
as
a
community,
we
know
that
we
show
up
on
more
lists.
If
we
have
strong
infrastructure
infrastructure
is
all
modes,
it
includes
transit,
it
includes
roads,
it
includes
airways,
all
five
modes,
yep,
waterways,
everything.
K
K
I'm
constantly
saying
you
might
have
heard
me
say
that
if
we
can
outsource
to
india
as
corporations,
we
can
outsource
to
rural
kentucky,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
things
that
I
would
like
to
do
is
is
to
work
with
corporations
to
figure
out
how
we
can
make
that
capability
of
moving
some
of
those
jobs
to
rural
kentucky,
and
I'm
assuming
that
that
is
one
of
the
things
that
you're
talking
about
as
well.
Just
wanted
to
to
verify
that.
F
Absolutely
we
know
that
broadband
is
very
important
and
we
talk
with
our
internet
service
providers
on
a
very
frequent
basis
about
how
we
can
increase
that
for
people
and
and
they're
very
collaborative
with
us.
So
we
understand
the
importance
of
of
broadband
and
how
it's
going
to
really
be
the
way
of
the
future.
I
think
the
pandemic
has
reinforced
that
for
us.
L
Representative
sheldon,
I
would
just
like
to
say
thank
you
to
you
guys
being
here
today.
Small
business
and
and
business
all
across
the
state
is
indebted
to
to
you,
folks
that
have
started
your
own
business.
You
use
the
creativity,
the
intuitiveness
that
you
use
to
get
in
business
through
this
pandemic
and
it's
been
unbelievable
and
our
chambers
have
done
a
great
job.
L
A
Thank
you
see
no
more
questions.
Thank
you
all
for
your
great
testimony.
Both
now.
Mr
representative,
I
may
be
able
to
answer
your
question
a
little
bit.
I
have
38
employees
and
we
were
lucky
doing
all
this
pandemic.
We
did
not
lay
anyone
off,
but
we
went
from
one
of
the
lowest
to
the
highest
unemployment
rate
and
let
me
help
qualify
this.
That
is
now
we
quick
math,
so
I
may
be
a
little
bit
off,
but
we
figured
it's
18
000
unbudgeted
dollars
on
38
employees.
A
I
can't
imagine,
what's
going
to
do
with
you
for
400
or
even
more
or
even
much
larger
companies.
So
if
a
small
company
like
myself,
is
18
000
extra
unbudgeted,
I
can't
imagine
if
we
don't
do
something
with
that
rate,
what
it
will
do
to
small
businesses
across
the
state
of
kentucky.
So
with
that,
but
I
do
appreciate
you
all
testimony
today
again,
we
I
think
most
people
on
this
committee
requested
to
be
on
this
committee.
A
Small
business
is
near
and
dear
to
our
heart
and
again
also
one
of
the
stats
I
was
looking
at
much
earlier
in
the
year
was
86
of
all
the
jobs
created
in
the
state
of
kentucky
are
by
small
businesses,
so
we
are
the
economic
driver
in
the
state.
Thank
you
guys
for
your
time.
Thank
you
for
your
testimony.
Thank
you.
C
A
You
before
we
adjourn,
we
have
some
people
who
did
not
get
to
vote
on
our
first
bill.
If
it's
point
time,
mr
freelander,
would
you
like
to
record
a
vote.