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From YouTube: Capital Planning Advisory Board (6-14-23)
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Attendance Roll Call 00:00:20
Information Items 00:01:21
Special Report 00:02:27
Review of Executive Branch Agency Plans 00:17:33
A. Department of Military Affairs 00:18:15
B. Department of Veterans’ Affairs 00:43:10
C. Kentucky Communications Network Authority 01:14:54
D. Kentucky Infrastructure Authority 01:37:38
E. Tourism, Arts, and Heritage Cabinet 01:48:41
F. Transportation Cabinet 02:02:00
A
And
gas
and
I
understand
we
are
a
couple
short
of
a
quorum,
so
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
adopt
the
minutes
just
yet,
but
I
thought
we
would
go
ahead
and
start
moving
forward
with
a
couple
of
the
presentations
so
that
we're
not
here
too
late
but
Madam
Secretary.
Could
you
please
call
the
roll
to
see
who
was
president
at
this
time.
B
C
A
D
Yes,
offers
in
on
those
briefly
the
two
information
items:
the
first
follow-up
to
May
17
2023,
meeting
board
member
questions,
details
two
outstanding
lines
of
questions
posed
by
board
members
at
the
previous
meeting
and
responses
from
the
energy
and
environment
and
education
labor
cabinets.
The
second
amended
Capital
plans
details
amendments
to
Capital
plans
presented
at
the
previous
mayboard
meeting.
There
was
one
project
deletion
from
the
justice
and
Public
Safety
cabinet,
and
that
concludes
today's
information
items.
A
E
My
name
is
Ruth
day
and
I'm,
the
executive
director
of
The
Commonwealth
office
of
Technology
and
the
Commonwealth's
Chief
Information
officer.
Thank
you
for
for
this
opportunity
to
review
and
evaluate
the
capital.
I
t
projects
of
the
executive
branch
and
to
share
with
you
the
results
of
that
review.
Today,
the
Commonwealth
office
of
technology
is
a
long-handle
generally.
The
agency
is
referred
to
as
cot,
so
with
your
Indulgence
I
will
use
the
acronym
in
my
presentation.
E
Next
slide.
Cot's
role
on
odd
number
of
years.
Executive
branch
agencies
submit
their
requests
for
capital
projects
greater
than
one
million
dollars
for
consideration
to
the
legislative
research
commission.
The
commission
provides
a
listing
of
capital.
I
t
projects
to
cot,
to
review,
to
ensure
that
these
requests
maintain
an
Enterprise
Focus.
E
This
Enterprise
focus
is
supported
by
statutes
and
administrative
regulations
that
require
one
agencies
to
create
it,
project,
descriptions
and
identify
business
goals
for
capital
projects
prior
to
authorization
of
funding
and
two
cot
to
review
those
capital
projects
from
an
Enterprise
perspective
and
Report
quarterly.
On
implementation,
progress
to
the
legislature's
capital
projects
and
bond
oversight
committee
cot
has
an
electronic
form
for
agencies
to
complete
their
specific
project
information
and
requires
that
the
agencies
attach
electronically
their
I.T
project
information,
including
total
cost
of
ownership,
which
is
a
five-year
reflection
of
ongoing
and
recurring
costs
of
the
project.
E
E
We
are
to
invite
agency
representatives
to
present
an
overview
of
their
requests
and
to
score
the
requests
that
that
has
been
done
and
filing
to
report.
Those
such
rankings
to
this
board,
which
we
are
doing
today,
cot
recruited
scores
for
the
capitals
project
scoring
committee
amongst
state
government,
Information,
Technology
professionals.
The
committee
was
made
up
of
non-scorers.
E
E
E
E
This
diesel,
this
details,
the
scoring
criteria,
are
available
on
the
cot
website
for
anyone
to
review
it
lists
the
criteria
by
business
value
and
by
risk
factors
and
provides
the
specifics
of
the
criteria
by
score
and
the
weight
of
each.
This
information
is
important
for
both
the
requester
and
the
score
to
understand.
E
E
External
requirements
examines
the
Project's
dependency
on
other
systems,
complying
with
legislation
or
required
by
litigation
or
some
other
external
factor.
In
business
case,
we
are
looking
for
quantifiable
success
as
to
strategic
alignment.
Highest
points
are
awarded
for
direct
alignment
with
at
least
one
initiative
and,
finally,
the
greater
the
total
cost
of
ownership
savings.
The
higher
the
score
business
values,
give
more
weight
than
risk
because
risk
cases
why
you
do
the
projects,
the
primary
reason
for
the
project.
However,
all
projects
have
some
risk,
and
so
we
have
to
take
that
into
consideration.
E
The
risk
factors
are
listed
on
the
right
again
less
points
available.
These
are
more
objective.
Does
the
project
involve
sensitive
data
and
the
ability
to
safeguard
that
data
implementation
cost
the
higher
the
cost?
The
greater
the
risk
complexity
of
the
solution?
Are
the
requirements
clearly
understood
next?
Is
there
a
defined
implementation
plan
with
a
clear
time
frame
to
execute
and
finally,
availability
of
skill
sets?
Is
the
expertise
to
execute
the
project
available
internally.
E
This
next
slide
illustrates
the
scoring
process
again
following
the
instructions
of
this
board
project
requesters,
submit
presentations,
typically
in
the
form
of
PowerPoint
and
then
present
to
the
whole
scoring
committee,
who
scores
the
request
during
the
presentation.
There
is
also
a
question
and
answer
part
of
the
presentation
for
scores
to
clarify
any
information
and
then,
after
all,
the
presentations
are
made
and
the
scoring
is
calculated.
E
The
scoring
committee
administrator
then
presents
me
with
the
results
of
the
scoring
committee's
work,
I
review
the
scoring
I
reviewed
the
projects
in
general
for
a
general
understanding,
the
business
case
to
consider
any
need
for
discussion
with
the
scoring
committee.
I,
look
for
anything
that
might
seem
incongruent
or
need
any
further
review
or
explanation.
E
The
two
primary
maintenance
issues
with
it
in
particular
are
one
the
ability
to
maintain
the
business
processes
that
serve
the
citizens
in
new
ways
like
replacing
in
person
with
online
and
mobile
apps
and
two
with
this
complexity.
It
is
critically
important
to
keep
up
with
the
demands
of
cyber
security
threats.
E
Legacy
applications
like
the
applications
involved
in
these
requests
for
funding,
require
modernization
to
keep
up
with
the
demands
of
modern
service
in
a
secure
environment.
Kentucky
was
early
to
the
value
of
consolidation
having
Consolidated
I.T
infrastructure
10
years
ago,
and
it
has
served
the
Commonwealth.
Well,
it's
not
easy.
Many
states
are
still
trying
to
figure
it
out.
Once
Consolidated
we
were
able
to
modernize
that
infrastructure
for
the
Enterprise,
and
so
at
cot.
E
We
are
fortunate
to
have
a
modern
infrastructure
for
compute
memory
and
storage,
and
we
are
modern
in
our
Computing
devices
like
desktops
and
laptops
that
the
staff
across
the
Commonwealth
use
to
run
state
government
and
service
citizens.
This
hardware
and
the
software
that
runs
the
hardware
are
maintained
through
agreements
with
manufacturers
and
the
product
developers.
E
Some
applications
are
so
old
that
the
hardware
that
they
run
on
can't
be
modernized
until
the
application
is
modernized
being
responsible
for
the
enterprise.
We
develop.
Mitigating
controls
for
these
Legacy
situations
to
ensure
ensure
the
security
on
our
Network,
and
so
modernizing.
These
applications
is
important
to
cot
too.
E
At
CLT
we
don't
do
the
application
development,
but
we
provide
the
infrastructure.
The
applications
run
on
so
whether
you
work
in
the
public
or
private
sector
generally,
the
infrastructure
modernization
is
the
more
straightforward.
You
know.
Most
people
don't
care
what
computer
it
runs
on.
They
just
wanted
to
do
the
functions
they
needed
to
do.
It's
kind
of
like
me
in
air
travel,
whether
Southwest
flies
at
737
or
MD80.
I,
don't
care
all
I
care
is
it
does
the
function?
It
gets
me
from
A
to
B
and
does
so
safely
in
in
it.
E
E
F
Thank
you
I
appreciate
the
presentation,
thank
you
very
much
and
on
the
slide,
where
it's
talking
about
the
12
different
projects,
which
I'm
done
so
is
there.
You
had
also
referenced
that
there
is
a
website.
Is
there
information
regarding
all
of
these
12
different
projects
on
that
website,
or
how
do
we
gain
information?
Regarding
you
know
to
me,
you
know.
F
G
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman.
Thank
you
Ruth.
Your
number
one
ranked
item
is
something
a
pool
called
Legacy
modernization
and
we've
had
in
in
very
recent
years.
We've
had
another
one
of
those.
Could
you
give
some
examples
of
some
of
the
things
that
we
already
did
you
know
using
that
type
of
financing?
Thank.
E
H
Sure
so,
as
of
right
now,
I
serve
as
a
liaison
between
the
agencies
and
Finance
in
the
office
of
the
state
budget
director
to
help
figure
out
what
areas
can
Leverage
The
Legacy
modernization
funds?
We
were
given
20
million
in
our
prior
request.
We
have
about
1.9
million
of
that
left.
10
million
of
that
was
automatically
funneled
during
covid
to
update
the
UI
systems
across
various
places
that
we
desperately
needed
some
modernization
quickly.
We
have
also
completed
some
projects
for
the
Personnel
cabinet.
H
We
no
longer
had
support
and
maintenance
with
sap,
which
is
the
back
end
for
the
Kentucky
Human
Resources
information
system,
which
serves
all
employees,
all
retirees
everyone
in
the
school
districts.
So
we
were
able
to
use
the
Legacy
modernization
funds
to
re-establish
support
and
maintenance
with
sap
get
that
system
back
up
where
it
was
compliant
with
all
the
latest
and
greatest
security
and
best
practices.
H
We've
also
done
the
same
for
the
Enterprise
business
intelligence
piece,
which
is
the
back-end
reporting
system
for
emars,
as
well
as
about
4
500
users
across
the
Commonwealth
that
use
that
for
business
intelligence,
we've
done
some
modernizations
within
the
finance
cabinet.
When
covet
hit,
you
know
the
Pines
cabinet
has
about
2
000
employees
and
we
have
20
or
30
policies
that
we
have
paper.
H
You
know
ink
signatures
that
were
required
annually
and
we
were
able
to
leverage
existing
Enterprise
solutions
to
build
a
solution
to
do
electronic
signatures
for
all
those
policies
we
can
track
those
a
manager
can
look
at
those
and
see
who
has
completed
their
acknowledgments.
Who
is
not
what
I'm
trying
to
think
of
some
others?
We've
done
one
for
the
Department
of
local
government,
the
special
purpose
government
entities
for
their
reporting.
They
had
a
very
old
system
that
actually
no
longer
worked.
H
They
went
back
to
using
paper,
so
we
were
able
to
come
in
and
create
a
new
application,
so
we
do
different
things
as
needed.
Sometimes
it's
just
a
re-platform.
Sometimes
it's
an
upgrade.
Sometimes
it's
complete
rewrite,
but
we
always
come
in.
We
look
to
see
where
we
can
leverage
existing
technologies
that
we
have
in
the
Enterprise
and
if
that
doesn't
work,
we
will
see
what
other
agencies
are
using
for
that
type
of
work,
and
if
nothing
else,
we
will
write
something
in-house
or
post
an
RFP
to
secure
a
solution
that
will
work
for
that
agency.
C
A
All
right,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation
and
next
up.
We
have
a
a
review
of
executive
branch
agency
plans.
We
have
six
State
agencies
providing
overviews
of
their
respective
person
for
the
board's
review
and
we
will
begin
with
the
Department
of
military
Affairs.
If
you
would
like
to
approach.
A
I
Good
afternoon
co-chairs
Willard
Tate
excuse
me
and
capital
plan
Advisory
Board
I'm,
a
brigadier
general
retired
Charlie
Jones,
the
executive
director,
part
of
military
Affairs
on
behalf
of
General
Lambert,
and
we
appreciate
this
opportunity
to
brief.
It
present
this
presentation
today
to
my
media
right.
I've
got
Major
General
Steve
Collins,
who
is
the
director
of
Bluegrass
station
to
his
immediate
right?
I've
got
Brigadier
General
Steve
King,
who
is
our
federal
Facilities
Management
officer
and
to
his
immediate
ride.
I've
got
Mr
Joe
Sanderson,
who
is
the
director
of
facility
management
for
Department
of
military
affairs?
I
Oh
sure,
the
department
of
military
Affairs
is
made
up
of
a
large
molar
component.
Workforce
d-a-dma
employs
95
full-time
state
employees,
446
Department
of
Defense
Contractor
State,
Employees,
dma's,
Federal
Workforce
consists
of
7
600,
traditional
and
full-time
Kentucky
guards,
Army
Guardsmen
and
air
Guardsmen
of
that
764,
full-time
military
army
and
air
members
of
that
there's,
712,
title
10
or
title
32,
AGR
soldiers
and
Airmen
in
in
the
department
of
military
Affairs.
I
We
consist
of
8
100
Personnel
total,
operates,
375
state-owned
buildings
and
is
located
on
14
152
Acres
of
state
property,
of
which
12
000
is
dedicated
to
nothing
but
train
in
areas
for
the
Department
of
military
Affairs
mission
of
supporting
the
Kentucky
National
Guard.
This
time,
I'll
be
followed
by
Mr
Joe
Sanderson,
the
state
Facilities
Management
officer.
J
So,
historically,
our
maintenance
pool
is
lacking,
but
we've
got
a
real
shot
in
the
arm.
This
biennium
and
it's
so
much
appreciated,
because
if
you
go
back
three
bienniums,
we
were
getting
about
a
million
dollars
a
year
and
we
have
over
300
buildings,
3
million
square
feet
under
roof
and
13
000
Acres
that
we
were
trying
to
maintain
with
with
a
million
dollars,
which
is
almost
impossible.
J
Even
when
we
get
Federal
support
that
matches
those
State
dollars,
it's
still
hard
to
keep
the
places
warm
and
and
the
roofs
from
leaking,
but
we
we
have
the
after
the
million
dollars
a
year.
We
end
up
getting
a
modernization
pull,
so
we
got
a
million
dollars
for
major
maintenance
and
a
million
dollars.
State
funds
for
the
modernization
pool
and
I'll
explain
the
modernization
pool
here
in
a
second
but
the
all
of
the
money
that
we've
we've
been
getting.
J
J
So
we
were
able
to
stand
a
200
Soldier
unit
from
scratch
with
with
those
funds,
and
we
have
a
very
nice
facility
just
about
complete
and
those
200
soldiers
are
new
and
it's
it's
good
for
the
economy
in
the
state
too,
but
that
still
leaves
our
our
buildings
that
that
are
are
pretty
old
out
in
the
state
that
require
upgrades
Replacements,
because
a
lot
of
them
have
the
original
systems
in
them.
So
we
appreciate
very
much.
J
This
bienniums
shot
an
arm
and
I
think
with
about
five
more
bienniums
like
this
one.
We
might
be
able
to
get
get
back
where
we
need
to
be,
but
we
have
about
2500
unfunded
work,
orders
in
our
system
and
it's
about
50
million
dollars.
That's
right
now
unfunded!
So
you
can
see
it
takes
everything
we
can
get
just
to
try
to
catch
up.
There's
also
about
a
you
know:
things
break
every
day,
so
there's
between
11
and
15
percent
annually
of
new
work
orders
that
that
get
into
that
system.
J
J
When
these
single
pane
windows
need
replacing,
we
have
to
comply
with
anti-terrorism
Force
protection
requirements
which
those
windows
cost
a
lot
more.
Of
course
you
know
in
the
in
the
event
of
an
emergency
when
the
citizens
have
to
come
into
our
facility
they're
a
lot
safer,
because
of
that
the
the
other
pool
maintenance
pool
is
for
the
Kentucky
Youth
Challenge.
These.
We
have
two
facilities
that
this
pool
takes
care
of,
one
in
Fort
Knox,
the
other
in
in
Harlan.
The
Harlan
is
a
state-owned
facility.
J
Both
facilities
are
very
old
and
need
repairs
every
day,
but
the
the
Harlan
both
facilities
are
unique
in
that
they
house
teenagers
that
require
special
conditions
and
also
they
house
the
Cadre
that
take
care
of
them.
So
we
feed
them
house
them
everything
in
those
facilities,
so
the
life
safety
and
health
is
is
critical
in
those
buildings.
J
We
also
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
secretary
Johnson
and
finance
cabinet,
because
every
year
we
lean
forward
and
we
design
these
projects
and
have
them
sitting
on
the
shelf,
because
at
a
moment's
notice,
General
King
can
get
a
call
from
National,
Guard,
Bureau
and
say:
hey
Florida
didn't
execute
their
money.
Can
y'all
execute
three
million
dollars
today?
J
Well,
with
the
help
of
the
finance
cabinet
and
being
able
to
award
those
projects,
get
them
bit
out
and
award
them
and
takes
a
lot
of
time,
but
with
with
our
partnership,
we
have
just
about
doubled
our
the
amount
of
projects
that
we
do
in
the
state
because
of
that
partnership.
So
if
I
don't
have
any
questions,
I'll
turn
over
to
General
King.
K
Thank
you
and
good
afternoon.
My
name
is
Steve
King
I'm,
the
construction
and
facility
management
officer
for
the
Kentucky
National
Guard
and
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
to
address
the
board
this
afternoon
and
following
up
on
some
of
Joe's
comments,
our
annual
funding
plan
on
the
federal
side
is
about
12
million
dollars
annually
to
support
all
of
our
facilities
and
after
you
reduce
the
operating
fixed
costs
associated
with
that
we
have
about
five
and
a
half
million
dollars
available
for
the
Capital
Construction
improvements.
K
And
if
you
look
at
certain
programs,
such
as
our
energy
program,
that
number
is
6.90
per
dollar
over
the
last
four
years,
and
that's
largely
due
to
us
being
able
to
Target
100
federally
supported
locations
and
speaks
to
some
of
their
ability
to
reach
out
and
grab
year-end
funds
and
again
thanks
to
the
finance
cabinet
for
their
support
on
that
matter.
I
couldn't
do
it
without
them
and
in
fact,
at
NGB.
K
They
refer
to
that
as
the
Kentucky
model,
and
very
well
known,
very
well
renowned
for
that
a
reference
to
modernization,
pools
and
specifically
appreciate
the
amount
allotted
dma
as
those
funds
enable
us
to
Target
our
inner
or
other
energy
projects.
I
mentioned
that
we
maximized
our
100
federally
funded
locations
and
we're
really
really.
Over
the
last
couple
of
years,
we've
turned
our
attention
toward
our
locations
that
require
State
match
such
as
our
armories
and
Readiness
centers.
K
The
good
news
about
that
is
is
that
we
are
spending
less.
We
spent
less
last
year
in
FY
22
than
we
did
in
2011
on
utilities,
after
having
added
almost
700
000
square
feet
of
facilities
and
having
seen
our
average
utility
rate
grow
from
eight
and
a
half
eight
and
a
half
cents
per
kilowatt
hour
to
12
and
a
half
cents
per
kilowatt
hour,
and
that
amounts
to
about
450
000
annually
in
cost
avoidance.
And
if
you
look
at
the
total
scope
of
that
program,
that's
been
about
2.8
million
dollars
in
cost
avoidance.
K
So
you
know
these
savings
are
directly
attributable
to
not
only
our
energy
production
efforts,
but
also
our
energy
reduction
efforts
associated
with
our
Capital
Improvement
projects.
In
short,
you
know
Joe
touched
on
the
fact
that
our
armies
and
our
infrastructure
is
aging.
We've
got
53,
armories
and
right
in
the
centers
and
15
vehicle
maintenance
shops
across
the
state.
K
With
an
average
age
of
45
years,
the
facilities
were
built
from
1948
through
the
1990s
were
essentially
built
for
an
all-male
army
and
we've
upgraded
and
added
female
latrines
and
showers
to
over
half
of
those.
But
we
still
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
so.
We've
still
got
roughly
28
armories
that
still
need
improvements
to
get
them
up
to
Modern
standards,
as
well
as
about
seven
or
seven
of
our
vehicle
maintenance
shops
and
a
focused.
K
L
Can
you
go
to
the
last
slide
in
the
deck
Steve
Collins
I'm,
the
director
of
Bluegrass
station,
and
you
know
that
thing
about
generals
it's
different
than
priests.
When
priests
are
tires,
they
still
have
power,
you
know
having
generals
retire,
they
get
another
job,
you
know
so
we've
all
got
other
jobs
and
we
appreciate
that
we're
able
to
serve
the
Commonwealth
continue
to
serve
a
commonwealth
I'd
like
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
a
proposal
for
a
public
private
partnership
to
build
an
airport,
an
air
Park
adjacent
to
Bluegrass
station.
L
The
big
takeaway
from
that
report
is
there's
an
appetite
out
there
by
the
P3
Community.
The
people
want
to
finance
this
people
want
to
invest
in
this.
They
they.
They
believe
that
it's
achievable
and
are
consultant
as
those
contacts
that
that
have
put
confidence
in
that
another
confidence
would
be
the
55
million
dollar
appropriation.
L
This
would
set
the
program
on
confident
footing
for
negotiating
with
these
P3
Developers
for
the
best
return
on
investment.
For
the
Commonwealth
now
this
money
could
be
repaid
by
the
P3
developer.
Commonwealth
could
choose
to
leave
it
in
there,
depending
on
the
arrangement
and
the
return
on
investment.
That's
that's
negotiated.
L
There's
justification
for
the
project.
There's
a
public
Aviation
need
the
business
climate
is,
is
all
in
the
proximity
to
Bluegrass
station
that
already
has
a
a
large
industrial
park
and
a
large
presence
and
the
Greenfield
conditions
all
favor
the
project,
especially
in
the
eyes
of
the
P3
investors.
L
These
attributes
are
supported
by
feasibility
studies,
the
aviation
system
by
the
Central
Kentucky
competitiveness
plan
or
initiative
and,
of
course,
by
the
consultant's
report
itself.
The
project
is
considered
a
game
changer
by
many
and
in
many
ways
for
general
aviation.
It
adds
an
8
000
foot
runway
for
economic
development.
It
adds
a
large
industrial,
Aerospace
and
Industrial
Park,
and
for
our
national
military
it
adds
Global
reach
and
an
improved
aircraft
modification
capability.
M
Instrument,
if
I
can
on
the
50
million
dollars
forget
who
mentioned
50
million
dollars
in
total
unfunded
work,
project
or
work
orders,
and
then
there
was
a
reference
to
the
annual
ruling
addition
to
that
approximately
in
the
11
to
15
range,
so
I'm
doing
math
on
that.
So
I've
got
a
single
digit
of
million
dollars
that
we
keep
adding
every
year
and
looking
through
these
projects
that
we
have
currently
pending
and
whatnot
and
I,
don't
have
the
budget
memorized.
J
Yes,
Senator
Southworth.
Thank
you
for
that
question.
We
we
got
the
million
dollars
it's
been
about
three
three
bienniums
ago,
and
that
was
for
all
of
our
major
maintenance
and
the
buying
them.
After
that,
I
believe
we
got
a
million
dollars,
major
maintenance
and
a
million
dollars
for
the
modernization
pool,
which
is
the
75-25
split.
J
The
next
biennium
we've
got
a
million
and
a
half
major
maintenance
per
year
with
no
with
no
modernization
dollars,
and
then
this
year
this
biennium
we
got
four
million
dollars
per
year
for
a
major
maintenance
and
and
then
a
million
dollars
per
year
for
our
modernization.
So
this
this
biennium
we're
catching
up,
but,
as
you
can
tell
by
the
50
million
dollar
backlog,
we
got
a
ways
to
go
to
set
answer
your
question.
M
J
J
Yeah
well,
the
actually
most
all
of
the
50
million
is
a
50
50,
because
the
major
maintenance
dollars
are
matched
by
the
federal
government
when
they
have
funds
available
up
to
50
percent.
The
75
25
is
only
for
modernization
projects
that
have
a
federal
requirement
tied
to
them,
such
as
the
expanding
the
compound
or
the
lactation
rooms
or
the
or
the
the
anti-terrorism
force
protection
windows.
That
type
of
stuff.
A
J
M
I
got
you
so
it
gets
complicated
yeah.
Now
the
list
of
the
projects,
though
in
front
of
us,
you
would
you
say,
is
a
characterization
of
the
priorities
or
of
the
total,
because
I
mean
I
see
some
stuff
here.
It's
like
new
projects
and
so
forth,
so
I
guess
I'm
trying
to
get
a
handle
on
how
much
you're
asking
for
ver.
We
just
stick
to
your
script,
on
how
much
you're
asking
for
and
not
think
for
ourselves.
Is
that
what
you're
saying.
J
Actually,
we,
you
know,
we've
asked
for
10
million
in
the
buying
and
we
got
we
had
10
this
year.
If
you
combine
the
the
modernization
and
the
maintenance,
so
I
think
what
I
stated
is
that
if
we
can
keep
the
same,
the
current
funding
for
a
few
more
bienniums,
then
we
could.
We
could
dig
very
deep
into
that.
50
million
backlog.
M
K
So,
thank
you
for
that
question.
I
I
think
that
it's
a
it's
a
combination
of
all
of
the
above,
so
you
look
at
your
requirements
and
everything
that
we've
set
out
in
our
annual
plan
for
our
minor
construction
is
outlined.
As
in
the
the
capital
plan,
and
some
of
those
projects
are
going
to
be
100
federally
funded
projects,
some
of
them
are
going
to
be
75
percent.
Some
of
them
are
going
to
be
50
50.
and
to
say
that
it
shakes
out
one
way
or
the
other.
K
Every
year,
every
year
is
different,
so
what
we
try
to
do
is
look
for
where,
where
the
opportunities
are,
whereas
the
low-hanging
fruit
to
ensure
that
we
maximize
the
money
amount
of
funding
available,
while
at
the
same
time
trying
to
leverage
all
other
capabilities
that
we
have,
such
as
existing
state
prize
contracts
under
the
master
agreement
that
are
in
place.
So
when
you
know
you
know
they
may
look,
we
may
have.
We
may
have
executed
24
million
dollars
in
federal
dollars.
K
J
K
Kind
of
an
odd
guard's,
a
kind
of
an
odd
entity.
You
know
we
we're
the
we
kind
of
consider
ourselves
the
step
children
of
the
army.
We
never
really
are
fully
funded
to
meet
our
current
or
capable
or
total
requirements
to
to
be
as
capable
as
we
can,
but
we
tend
to
prioritize
the
funding
available
to
ensure
that
number
one.
K
I
N
Thank
you.
Chairman.
Good
afternoon,
chairman
chair
persons
co-chair
persons,
member
of
the
CPA
board.
My
name
is
Lieutenant
Colonel
Whitney
Allen,
commissioner
for
Kentucky
Department
of
Veteran
Affairs.
It
gets
scary
when
all
the
generals
leave
and
leave
everything
else
to
the
field
grade
officers
and
on
that
I
would
like
to
introduce
my
team
and
allies
that
are
here
today
off
to
my
left
as
my
Deputy
Commissioner
Juan,
Renault,
retired,
lieutenant
colonel
armor
officer
and
Iraqi
and
Afghan
vet.
N
On
my
right
hand,
side
is
a
major
retired
U.S
army,
Dr
Silas
session
Iraqi
War
Afghan
veteran
as
well.
He
served
as
my
executive
director
for
veteran
services
over
to
my
far
right
as
the
Navy
guy
Mr
Mark
Bowman
who's.
The
executive
director
of
my
veteran
centers
behind
me
is
my
chief
of
staff,
Neto
Army,
veteran
retired
Balkan,
veteran
Duane
Edwards.
If
you
can
raise
your
hand
up
there,
Chief
there
you
go.
N
I
also
have
commissioner
Sam
Ruth
Department
of
facilities
and
support
services
here
as
well,
and
executive
director
Scott
Baker
office
of
facilities
and
facility
development,
efficiencies
from
the
finance
Cabinet
Great
allies
to
have
I.
Never
look
at
the
the
office.
I
just
know
the
help,
so
on
that
we
will
move
forward
to
the
second
slide.
N
All
right
bottom
line
kdva
provides
wrap
around
services
for
our
veterans,
approximately
300
000
veterans
and
their
families
in
the
state.
That's
not
even
counting
widows
of
veterans,
dependents
or
kids
of
veterans
that
are
deceased.
Our
sole
purpose
is
to
take
care
of
those
veterans
and
keep
that
promise
we
made
to
them
when
they
served.
N
We
have
over
800
employees
at
this
time
with
nine
major
facilities
and
cemeteries
across
the
Commonwealth,
so
we're
a
very
dispersed
agency
and
we
we
are
connected
to
every
veteran
in
Kentucky
and
the
surrounding
region
as
well
with
our
allies,
we
provide
Superior
long-term
care
for
those
vulnerable
veterans
in
our
nursing
home.
We
provide
dignified
internments
for
those
veterans
that
have
served,
and
we
also
provide
those
life-changing
Services,
getting
benefits
and
entitlements
and
be
lifelines
or
support
which
includes
our
homeless
veterans
program.
N
So
we
do
a
lot
a
lot,
we're
very
unique
and
we're
proud
of
what
we
do.
Moving
to
the
next
slide
slide.
Three:
that's
our
acts
here,
29
million
dollars
of
investment
into
our
facilities.
Many
of
them
are
aging
facilities
and
there's
a
couple
of
expansion
for
our
cemeteries,
29
million
dollars
for
nine
projects
and
in
the
bottom
line.
N
You'll
hear
often-
and
hopefully
a
very
quick
brief-
is
safety
for
my
people,
as
well
as
the
veterans
we
serve
and
to
continue
to
provide
the
quality
services
that
we
provide
next
slide,
please
right.
I'll
first
request
is
for
the
heating,
vitalization
ventilation
and
air
conditioning
system
replacement
for
a
Radcliffe.
N
Veterans
Center,
as
you
can
see,
bottom
line,
is
the
effort
of
maintaining
this
current
current
system
takes
away
from
other
priorities,
and,
but,
most
importantly,
by
replacing
that
system,
we
have
a
consistent
climate
control
system
in
a
safe
environment
for
my
employees
and
Veteran
Residence
at
that
Radcliffe
Cemetery.
So
once
again,
nine
million
dollars
next
slide.
Please
all
right
maintenance
pool
reaction
for
two
million
dollars
to
help
maintain
those
nine
major
facilities
that
we
have,
the
the
five
cemeteries
and
the
four
veterans.
N
N
N
Next
slide,
please,
our
Eastern
Veterans
Center
out
in
Hazard
roof
replacement,
1.5
million
dollars
end
of
his
life
cycle
as
well
as
you
can
see.
Denotes
example
in
Buckland
trying
to
prevent
further
water
damage
so
again
we're
investing
in
in
our
aging
facilities
for
the
care
and
safety
of
our
employees
and
Veteran
residents.
N
Next
slide,
exterior
lighting
replacement,
thvco,
Thompson,
Hood,
Veterans
Center
right
down
the
road
is
our
oldest
facility,
31
years
old,
so
we're
trying
to
get
it
to
21st
Cent
standard,
and
this
is
a
safety
issue
ensuring
people
drive
in
and
on
and
around
our
campus.
The
the
system
itself
has
been
around
for
30
years,
since
it
showed
that
it
needs
is.
It
has
deteriorated,
Beyond
repairs
and
shows
some
unstability
in
in
this
life.
So
we
want
to
replace
that
again.
N
Expansion
Project,
the
as
you
see
kvcc,
is
our
Cemetery
down
at
Radcliffe
Fort
Knox,
2.5
million
dollars
for
a
columbarium
wall
expansion
for
those
who
don't
know
what
that
is.
That's
where
we
do
our
internment
for
cremation
has
become
popular
over
the
years
and
cheaper
and
preferred
by
many
of
our
veterans
these
days.
So
we
we're
now
expanding
to
to
meet
that
demand.
F
O
Can
you
hear
me?
Okay?
Yes,
sir?
Okay,
thank
you.
So
we
started
experiencing
problems
and
you
know
with
any
new
building
you
ex.
You
expect
some
things
to
kind
of
break
down
and
you
keep
prepared
and
maintenance
on
them,
but,
as
time
went
on,
especially
in
2020
or
22,
especially
in
June
of
22,
it
really
piqued
our
interest
that
we're
having
a
little
bit
more
than
normal
repairs
going
on
enough
to
say.
Okay,
we
need
to
look
at
this
and
see
what's
going
on
because
the
maintenance
was
being
completed.
O
But
the
point
is:
we're
spending
a
lot
of
money
out
of
pocket
to
maintain
current
situation
for
our
veterans
and
the
uniqueness
of
what
we
have
to
do.
That's
actually
it's
not
unique
to
us,
but
it's
Unique
to
some
is
we're
highly
regulated
in
that
temperature
control
and
to
make
sure
that
those
people
are
safe
and
the
analysis
of
external
consultant
was
that
look.
We
can't
really
figure
it
out,
but
if
you
keep
putting
money
into
pots
here
and
there
it's
going
to
mount
up
very
quickly,
so
the
recommendation
is
for
that
replacement
and.
O
C
O
Our
staffing
is
showing
some
improvement,
we're
actually
trending
up
with
that,
because
the
investment
from
the
Commonwealth
and
collaboration
with
our
partners,
and
so
with
that
increase
in
Staffing
and
filling
vacancies.
This
becomes
more
as
important
because
we're
limited,
we
can't
put
our
veterans
in
a
situation
that
we
can't
assure
that
the
the
environmental
control
there.
O
So
we
have
moved
up
since
our
efforts
started
in
February,
with
putting
some
resources
toward
filling
those
vacancies,
and
this
will
be
a
barrier
if
we
don't
resolve
this
of
moving
into
and
what
we're
all
about.
And
you
all
support.
This
is
access
for
veterans,
because
that's
what
we're
there
for
that's!
What
these
Investments
are
for,
even
sometimes
unexpected
Investments,
the
the
Commonwealth's
done
a
great
job
in
investing
and
taking
care
of
our
veterans
and
that's
what
we
want
to
continue
to
do.
A
I
can
follow
up
on
that
and
I
guess
it's
just
the
inner
lawyer
in
me,
but
you
know
every
time
I.
It
seems
like
I,
constantly
hear
these
presentations
of
the
Commonwealth
building
buildings
and
for
some
reason
or
another,
within
a
very
short
period
of
time.
There's
there's
a
very
identifiable
problem
going
on.
Have
you
all
looked
at
attempting
to
get
some
compensation
or
damages
out
of
the
people
that
originally
installed
the
hva
system?
Since
clearly,
it
sounds
like
from
what
your
testimony
has
been.
A
These
problems
started
within
the
first
couple,
two
or
three
years
of
it
being
in
there
I
mean
obviously
I
think
we're
the
the
general
assembly
will
certainly
step
up
to
the
plate
to
take
care
of
our
veterans,
but
I
would
think
that
we
might
be
able
to
mitigate
those
costs
somewhat
by
going
after
the
contractor.
That
apparently
did
some
shoddy
work.
O
O
O
G
O
P
P
P
P
All
of
our
projects
are
so
it
met
the
specifications.
It
met
the
criteria
of
the
bid
documents
and
again
upon
initial
installation,
a
mission
of
commissioning
initial
operations.
While
there
were
some
issues,
it
wasn't
that
much
adverse
to
what
we
normally
see
during
that
first,
two
years
of
warranty
period,
it
was
again,
five
years
later,
six
years
later
again,
the
equipment
actually
was
started
up.
P
A
P
Manufacturers
still
providing
Parts
the
problem
is
we're
having
to
pay.
The
kdva
is
having
to
pay
to
install
those
parts
and
to
rectify
the
issue.
So
that's
an
additional
burden
to
them
and
again
probably
the
most
important
issue
is
the
fact
that
we
have
space
temperatures
that
fall
out
of
oig
compliance
very
regularly
as
a
result
of
failing
systems.
So
that's
an
issue
that
we
simply
can't
toy
with.
If
you
will
that's
why
the
replacement
system,
as
what
we've
designed,
what
our
consultant
has
brought
to
us,
is
to
totally
remove
vrf
completely.
P
Last
15
years,
no
sir,
it's
a
different
firm
that
we
had
to
go
in
and
do
the
study
on
the
remediation
of
what
needed
and
the
evaluation
of
the
system.
So
originally
when
it
broke
in
2022,
we
had
Alpha
mechanical
who's,
one
of
the
primary
service
providers
for
most
many
of
our
facilities
come
in
and
they
perform
their
evaluation
felt
as
though
they
could
get
it
working
and
they
worked
diligently
for
about
three
months
trying
to
make
that
happen.
And
then
finally,
they
said.
No
everything
is
just
failing.
It's
just
failing
everywhere.
P
So
that's
when
we
brought
cmta
in
in
October
of
22
for
them
to
perform
this
evaluation
and
study.
Their
study
came
back
in
December
and
based
on
the
outcome
of
that
said
that
while
we
can
continue
replacing
parts
and
continue
to
doing
these
things,
it's
it's
not
the
best
use
of
funds,
because
the
the
failures
are
going
to
continue
to
happen.
A
Means
you
know
I'd
like
to
know
I
mean
if
they're
at
I
mean
nine
million
dollars
and
obviously
I'm
all
about
taking
care
of
our
veterans.
This
is
not
about
that.
It's
about
the
Commonwealth
getting
the
value
for
its
bid,
and
it
sounds
like
to
me
if
we
had
a
15-year
system
put
in
and
it
started
failing
after
two
or
three
I
mean
you
know
it's
just
like
lemon
laws
and
other
things
I
mean
I.
I
would
think
that.
A
P
A
P
Not
been
participating
and
providing
warranty
services
to
date,
then
then
I
think
it
would
be
different,
but
the
fact
that
Samsung
is
still
engaged
as
the
warranty
provider
still
providing
Parts.
It's
simply
from
a
kdva
operational
standpoint,
not
something
that
we
need
to
do
long
term.
We've
got
to
get
out
and
get
the
right
system
in
so
the
vrf
system.
The
very
refrigerant
system
type,
is
going
away
completely
under
this
plan
and
we're
going
back
in
with
a
four
pipe
hydronic
system.
F
C
P
No,
no
Alpha's
a
service
provider,
they
were
not
the
original
contractor
that
put
the
equipment
in
again
when
the
equipment
went
in,
it
was
inspected,
it
was
commissioned,
it
was
all
of
those
things
happened
and
again
it
worked
per
the
standards
at
the
time.
I
I
honestly
feel
that
the
problem
is
the
Samsung
equipment.
Just
can't
take
the
demand
of
a
nursing
facility,
a
vrf,
Samsung
equipment
or
anything
any
vrf
equipment
in
a
nursing
environment
is
is
not
what.
P
And
then
these
vrf
systems
are
just
variable
refrigerants
that
sit
there
and
modulate
the
temperature
in
the
space
you're
in,
but
they
don't
have
any
outdoor
air.
These
are
independent,
so
the
outdoor
air
system,
the
primary
outdoor
air
system
at
Radcliffe,
is
fine
and
it
will
remain
and
not
be
touched.
P
F
P
They
I've
no
I've,
not
seen
any
indication
that
they
will
not
be
again.
We
had
some
concern
with
that
when
trainvers
dropped
the
line
because
trainers
who
are
who
we
primarily
dealt
with
but
again
in
Samsung's
defense,
I,
guess
and
all
of
this,
they
have
stayed
engaged
and
and
again
my
understanding
is.
We
got
Parts
Monday
from
Samsung
for
replacement,
so
they're
staying.
My
concern
there
is
is
when
that
warranty,
that
original
warranty
from
installation
expires
and
according
to
the
Samsung
website,
documentation
that's
a
seven
year,
warranty
on
on
their
part,
their
primary
parts.
P
So
we're
rapidly
approaching
that
possibly
expiring,
then
that
that's
where
my
real
concern
comes
in
with.
If
they
stop
providing
the
parts,
then
obviously
the
cost
to
the
facility
to
keep
the
facility
temperatures
maintain
doubles
and
we
still
have
a
system
that,
on
a
really
cold
day
or
a
really
hot
day,
we
can't
maintain
the
oig
required
temperatures
for
the
clients
that
live
there
and
that's
again,
first
and
foremost,
and
everybody
is
obviously
to
take
good
care
of
the
people
we're
taking
care
of.
P
F
It
seems
kind
of
interesting
to
me
that
the
use
of
the
term
warranty,
because
it
appears
to
me
like
up
to
this
point
at
this
point
in
time
when
they're
not
really
warranting
it
anyway,
even
though
they're
providing
the
parts
they're
not
if
they're
charging
us
for
installation
of
those
parts,
then
what's
the
warranty,
so
it
kind
of
seems
like
the
warranty
has
already
failed
up
to
this.
At
this
point,.
B
P
Our
standard
warranty
is,
is
a
is
a
one-year
contractor's,
Builders
warranty
and
that
one
year
warranty
covers
everything
bumper
to
bumper
I'll
labor,
everything
which
is
already
gone,
which
is
yeah.
That
was
the
first
year
so
once
that
warranty
is
expired,
the
only
warranties
that
are
remaining
are
the
manufacturer's
equipment,
warranties
and
those
warranties
will
vary
per
component
in
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
times
for
for
some
chillers
and
so
forth.
The
valves
may
have
five
years
and
the
compressor
may
have
10
years,
whatever
the
case
may
be,.
C
P
That
that
is
the
warranty
in
which
we're
executing
against
is
the
warranty
of
of
Parts.
It
is
a
parts
warranty
because
we
no
longer
have
not
had
a
labor
warranty
for
some
time
for
a
number
of
years.
Has
there
not
been
a
labor
warranty
in
place,
because
that's
not
that's
not
how
our
projects
are
be
it
or
are
awarded
or
contracted
in
any
form.
Senator
Southworth.
M
This
is
all
very
interesting
and
I'm
not
going
to
pretend
to
be
a
product's
liability
expert
by
any
stretch.
It
just
sounds
like
that
to
me,
but
really
the
bigger
question
I
have
is
I'm.
Listening
to
all
of
this
is
you
know
we
have
a
variety
of
members
on
this
board
that
know
a
lot
of
different
things
about
a
lot
of
different
things,
but
as
I'm
looking
through
the
PowerPoint
show
here,
there
was
no
any
mention
of
this
in
the
PowerPoint
show,
and
it
took
somebody
who
lives
very
close
to
that
area.
M
M
N
Not
in
this
particular
piece
other
than
what
we
put
in
our
Capital
plan
has
a
little
bit
more
details.
We
kept
a
good
lean
brief
for
discussions
and
director
baker
has
answered
a
question
as
well
as
director,
Bowman,
there's,
no
hidden
agenda
or
or
any
side
we're
not
sliding
anything
over.
It
was
straightforward,
brief,
ma'am.
N
M
O
To
brief-
and
it
does
not
go
into
the
details-
that
it
just
talks
about
systemic
failure,
the
need
to
protect
the
veterans
in
the
statutory
requirements
for
that,
and
then
certainly
you
know,
as
we've
tried
today,
we'll
answer
any
any
other
questions
to
come
up.
But
the
narrative
is
more
on
spot
to
the
the
system
and
the
necessity
of
it
for
the
function
with
which
it
was
installed
and
needs
to
be
fixed
for
access
to
Veterans.
M
You
guys
have
been
dealing
with
a
nightmare
on
your
hands
for
well
over
a
year
and
gone
before
that,
but
specifically
in
this
last
12
months,
you've
been
dealing
with
total
nightmare
and
when
we
get
a
PowerPoint-
and
you
know
10
minute
briefing
and
a
PowerPoint
with
a
few
slides
and
I
literally
sit
in
here
like
well
I,
don't
really
have
any
questions,
I
mean
I,
just
kind
of
heard
about
cemeteries
in
the
veterans
centers
and
compared
to
last
year.
Last
year
was
the
sky
is
falling.
All
of
these
nursing
facilities
are
getting
ready
to.
M
You
know,
go
to
go
to
pot
and
all
I
mean
so
I
felt
like
we
put
some
money
in
last
year
and
now
this
year,
I'm
thinking
wow.
They
don't
really
have
anything
major
going
on
and
then
this
all
happens
and
I
didn't
even
know
this
was
going
on.
So
if
you
can
maybe
think
through
our
perspective,
we
have
no
idea
everything
that
you're
dealing
with,
but
we
want
to
know
those
kind
of
details
when
you're
coming
here
and
say:
okay,
this
is
important.
Here's
why
it's
important!
It's
not
my
fault,
it's
not
your
fault!
M
N
A
F
Graph
description,
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
I
would
expect
to
see.
In
a
paragraph
you
know
we
we've
got
these
little.
You
know
just
a
sentence
or
two
when
it
would
help
me
to
understand
the
issues
that
you're
having
to
make
sure
that
that
I
am
supporting
a
project
that
really
needs
an
issue
versus
supporting
a
project
that
needs
less
of
my
support.
N
Thank
you
ma'am
and
we're
a
learning
organization,
so
we
definitely
would
take
that
in
account
pend.
Any
other
questions
like
to
thank
the
board.
I
also
like
to
thank
the
team
director
Baker.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
it
if
there's
no
any
any
other
questions
or
comments.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank.
Q
Communications
Network
Authority
with
me
is
Mitch
Powers.
He
is
our
controller
and
we
have
two
items
that
we're
going
to
bring
before
the
board
today
before
we
get
started
with
that,
though,
I
thought
it'd
be
helpful.
If
we
just
do
a
quick
reminder
of
who
we
are,
the
Kentucky
wired
project
is
a
3300
mile,
Statewide
Broadband
fiber
optic
Network,
it's
in
all
120
counties.
It's
approximately
3
300
miles
of
fiber
optic
attached
to
80,
000,
poles
Statewide
right
now
we
serve
state
agencies
and
Kentucky
Community.
Q
Our
community
colleges
I'm,
sorry
kctcs.
We
also
be
serving
the
public
Universities
at
some
point
in
the
future.
Hopefully
soon
we
have
connected
425
sites
to
date
of
39
of
those
are
kctcs
locations.
There's
764
sites
targeted
to
be
on
the
network
when
it's
when
everything
is
moved
on
migrated
is
the
term
that
you
may
have
heard
us
use
in
the
past,
but
keep
in
mind
that
that's
a
fluid
number
as
state
agencies
move
offices
closed.
So
the
number
will
go
up.
It'll
go
down.
Q
Q
So
this
is
the
map
that
we've
been
sharing
since
the
beginning
of
the
network.
Just
as
again
as
a
reminder,
the
red
lines
you
see
is
the
is
the
backbone
288
fibers
that
goes
across
the
state,
the
blue
lines
or
the
laterals
that
go
into
the
individual
counties.
So
you
see
where
we
do
have
a
point
of
presence
in
each
County.
The
shaded
areas
represent
the
geographic
areas
of
our
partners
that
we've
worked
with
that
have
constructed
and
or
and
maintained
those
areas.
Q
Q
Our
contract
recognizes
that
technology
is
always
changing
and
improving.
So
as
part
of
the
contract.
In
10-year
intervals,
we
have
to
do
what's
called
a
refresh.
We
have
to
upgrade
our
equipment
that
reflects
the
fact
that
things
are
going
to
change
and
that
we
need
to
keep
our
Network
up
to
date
and
provide
the
services
that
we
are
to
people
right
now.
Q
It
has
to
be,
as
you
know,
it
has
to
be
upgraded
so
that
we
maintain
that
performance
levels
that
are
required,
speed,
flexibility
and
and
redundancy
that
we
need.
What
we've
presented
to
you
is
the
first
of
three
projects,
this
one's
for
12.9
million
dollars.
It's
going
to
replace
all
the
equipment
that
will
operate
Statewide,
it's
important
for
two
reasons:
the
first
as
I
said,
is
we
have
to
maintain
the
performance
levels
that
we're
offering
to
the
current
state
agencies,
universities
and
community
colleges.
Q
The
second
one
is
that
if
we
do
not
upgrade
our
equipment,
there
could
be
a
relaxing
of
the
service
levels
that
our
contractor
has
to
provide.
For
us
relating
to
when
a
service
when
a
site
goes
down
so,
for
example,
if
a
site
goes
down
now
they
may
have
four
hours
to
get
it
up
and
I'm
picking
times.
But
if
we
don't
do
it,
it
can
extend
to
six.
So
you
could
have
sites
that
are
down
longer.
Q
A
Q
Q
A
Q
A
And
how
how
what
what's
the
time
span
on
that?
Because
I
mean,
if
you
purchased
all
this
equipment
in
2015,
it
didn't
come
on
until
2019
I
guess
it
was
about
sitting
in
a
box
for
four
years
getting
out
of
date,
I
mean
I,
I!
Guess
what
I'm
trying
to
figure
figure
out?
What
what
happened
there,
and
or
do
we
want
to
make
sure
we
don't
get
into
that
same
situation
again.
Q
C
Q
One
thing
to
keep
in
mind
also
I
need
to
add
into
this
what
we,
this
10-year
interval,
has
what's
called
a
market
testing
process.
So
our
contractor
is
in
the
process
now
of
determining
what
equipment
needs
to
be
replaced
and
when
it
will
need
to
be
replaced
and
how
much
it
will
cost.
So
the
price
we're
presenting
now
is
based
on
the
estimate
that
we
were
given
by
our
P3
Partners
back
in
2015..
So.
Q
M
M
M
A
technology
contract
you
know
to
me
is
just
insane.
But
what
do
we
do
when
but
speed
on
broadbands
faster
than
some
of
the
pieces
of
this
network
and
we're
talking
about
adding
Last
Mile
still
so
I?
Guess
that's
going
to
be
for
the
next
slides
or
whatever.
So
we
may
hold
our
questions
on
that
so
I'm,
going
with
that
thanks
so.
Q
F
C
Q
44
million
was
the
total
price
that
we
worked
on
with
our
P
that
our
P3
Partners
provided
to
us.
So
the
way
we
broke
it
down
is
we've.
Construction
has
flown
from
the
East
to
the
West.
So
if
you
look
at
the
map,
you
have
like
ring
1A
and
two,
and
then
we
so
those
would
be
the
first
that
would
be
replaced,
because
that
was
the
first
that
was
installed.
Then
it
would
be
1B
and
and
five
and
three
and
then
how
long
to
bring
four
so.
F
Q
Q
C
A
Q
And
again,
you
know,
anytime,
you
have
questions,
feel
free
to
stop
me
that
that
works
for
me,
just
as
well
as
as
waiting
until
the
end.
Our
second
project
we're
presenting
to
you
is
for
infrastructure
purchases.
In
layman's
terms,
we
need
to
purchase
replacement
huts,
there's
a
Statewide.
We
have
no
20
nodes
that
are
in
communication
shelters.
Q
C
Q
Equipment,
obviously
so
what
we've
done
is
we've
replaced
these
wooden
huts
with
larger,
concrete
huts,
and
we
worked
on
that
with
open
fiber,
which
is
also
known
as
a
silicon.
That's
the
wholesaler
they're,
the
ones
who
we
worked
on
to
replace
them,
so
they
purchased
and
replaced
those
huts
we're
in
them
and
they're
in
them
now,
and
we
need
to
get
them
back
into
the
Commonwealth
control.
Q
Just
so
you
know
we
did
pursue
our
rights
against
the
manufacturer,
the
distributor
and
our
contractors.
We
resolved
that,
ultimately,
the
Franklin
Circuit
Court.
We
also
explored
whether
there
was
insurance
coverage
for
this
side
for
this
issue,
but
it
was
not
a
covered
item,
so
we've
kind
of
exhausted
our
opportunities
to
bring
in
additional
money
to
make
those
payments,
and
this
is
the
cost
to
purchase
all
20
to
get
them
back
in
our
control.
Q
Q
A
Q
Q
Q
M
Yeah
I
want
to
go
back
to
the
Silicon
question,
because
I
felt
like
last
year,
we
got
asked
for
money
to
get
these
Huts
replaced.
There
was
like
I,
don't
remember:
five
out
of
nine
Huts
or
moldy
and
dilapidated
as
you
described,
and
now
I'm,
not
sure.
Maybe
all
the
Huts
have
been
replaced
and
the
whole
litigation
or
whatnot,
but
where
did
the
money
for
the
Hutt's
replacement
come
from
because
I
could
be
mistaken,
but
I
felt
like
we
were
asked
for
money
or
somewhere
I
heard
it
was
State
money.
Q
M
M
Q
M
And
just
to
clarify,
excelcom
doesn't
have
the
same
bid
requirements
and
so
forth
that
the
state
procurement
does.
So
if
we
have,
if
they're
paying
for
these
huts
and
then
we
turn
around
and
we
have
to
pay
whatever
they're
charging
do
we
have
any
idea
how
much
overage
or
profit
they're
making
off
of
us
rebuying
these
huts.
Q
I
can't
recall
there
I'd
have
to
go
back
and
look
at
it.
I
can't
recall
there
being
a
profit
aspect
to
it.
They
do
get
a
what's
called
a
rate
of
return
on
Capital
assets
that
they
are
capturing,
which
is
eight
percent
of
their
cost
other
than
that,
there's
not
like
a
skim
that
they
get
off
the
top.
We
knew
what
the
prices
were:
the
cost
for
removal
and
installation
and
those
kinds
of
things
that
were
all
included
in
that
we
can
give
you
a
breakdown
of
that.
M
M
That's
possible,
but
it's
all
coming
back
to
me
and
I.
Just
don't
remember
that
being
the
number
and
I
could
be
off,
but
it
seems
like
to
me,
as
the
capital
planning
board,
trying
to
distribute
Commonwealth
funds
that
have
been
basically
procured
at
rates
and
things
that
we
never
really
had
control
over
so
much
and
now
we're
trying
to
take
control
over
it.
M
It
seems
almost
like
a
oh
there's,
a
whole
lot
of
weird
stuff
that
could
happen
or
is
there
and
I'm
not
sure
what
it
is.
But
that's
all
I've
got
really
questions
wise.
They
are
the
only
other
question
I
had
Mr
chairman.
It
may
or
may
not
relate
specifically
to
these
two
Capital
requests,
but
it
relates
to
the
overall
budget.
So
to
me
it
does
relate
the
last.
M
We
knew
that
most
it
seemed
like
if
not
all,
of
the
staff
or
case
DNA
was
funded
through
the
general
fund
and
not
by
actual
restricted
funds
within
the
agency-
and
there
was
some
discussion
about
you
know-
is
the
silicon's
business
going
to
take
off
enough
to
be
able
to
start.
You
know
generating
funds
within
the
agency
or
whatnot.
Where
are
we
at
on
that?.
Q
Q
Q
M
Q
Q
Q
Q
A
S
And
Advisory
board
members
I'm
Sandy
Williams
executive
director
with
the
Kentucky
infrastructure
Authority
with
me
today,
I
have
Millard
Edmond
Deputy
executive
director
with
Kia
and
Jim
Carpenter.
The
Authority's
treasurer
this
year
marks
a
special
milestone
for
the
Kentucky
infrastructure
Authority.
This
is
our
35th
year
in
service
to
the
utilities
and
rate
payers,
our
citizens
of
the
Commonwealth
and
over
that
35-year
period.
Since
1988
The
Authority
has
provided
over
2.79
billion
in
funding
commitments
supporting
over
4.18
billion
in
infrastructure
projects
that
averages
out
to
just
under
120
million
dollars
of
infrastructure
projects
a
year.
S
S
We
can
then
turn
around
and
reloan
those
dollars
we
operate
just
like
a
bank
in
that
regard
and
to
date
we
have
had
zero
loan
defaults.
That's
the
good
news.
The
best
news
is,
the
majority
of
the
majority
of
these
dollars
are
federal
dollars
that
Kentucky
has
access
to
because
of
the
state
batch
provided
through
Kentucky's
General
funds.
S
Sorry
Liz
thanks.
The
general
fund
portion
of
the
plan
includes
the
required
State
match
to
receive
the
federal
grants
for
our
clean
water
State
revolving
fund,
which
we
call
fund
a
and
our
drinking
water
State
revolving
fund,
which
we
call
fund
f.
This
match
has
been
provided
to
Kia
since
our
Inception
in
1988.
S
S
This
law
provided
additional
funds
through
the
existing
programs
for
states
to
address
the
removal
of
cancer-causing
forever
chemicals
called
pfos
from
drinking
water
and
the
removal
of
lead
service
lines.
Both
public
and
private
side
water
lines,
the
final
year
of
additional
Bill
funding,
is
federal
fiscal
year
2026.
S
We're
also
requesting
consideration
of
an
additional
25
million
to
capitalize
Kia's
State
Loan
program
called
the
infrastructure
revolving
fund
or
fund
B.
This
program
provides
funding
to
projects
that
are
not
eligible
for
the
federally
assisted
programs
and
is
targeted
to
infrastructure
projects
that
support
Economic,
Development
and
growth.
S
S
S
The
agency
Bond
portion
of
the
plan
includes
30
million
each
biennium
for
leveraged
bonds
for
each
of
our
two
federally
assisted
programs.
These
bonds
are
not
obligations
of
the
Commonwealth
and
are
backed
solely
by
the
loan
repayments
of
the
underlying
loans.
This
authorization
would
only
be
used
under
two
specific
circumstances.
S
Funding
the
Kentucky
infrastructure
Authority
has
provided
low
interest
loan
funding
for
more
than
one
thousand
two
hundred
projects
covering
all
corners
of
the
Commonwealth,
from
Pikeville
to
Paducah
and
Louisville
to
Logan
Todd
projects
that
stretch
along
the
Ohio
river
in
Ashland,
Maysville,
Covington
and
Brandenburg,
and
can
be
found
locally
in
Frankfort,
Lawrenceburg
and
Lexington,
and
these
low
interest
loan
programs
help
keep
utility
rates
low
and
provide
necessary
public
infrastructure.
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
M
M
My
question
really
is
I
feel
like
there
are
a
lot
of
people
out
there
that
have
serious
needs
right
in
all
these
projects.
We
all
know
this
and
I
felt.
Like
you
know,
real
regionalization
is
just
a
tool
in
that
toolbox,
but
you're,
looking
from
what
I
can
tell
here,
looks
like
we're
talking
about
different
pots
of
money,
so
maybe
I'm
mistaken,
but
if
we
have
one
pot
of
money,
that's
specifically
on
regionalization,
a
different
pot
of
money.
That's
on
you
know
bad
infrastructure.
M
You
know
decent
needs
upgrades
and
we
get
it
up
to
85
gets
money
out
of
the
regionalization
account,
whereas
something
that's
down
in
the
15
percentile
we
need
to
get
up
to
50
doesn't
get
funded
because
there's
something
at
the
eight
percent
fund
dial
over
in
Martin,
County
or
whatever
right
so
I'm.
Just
wondering.
Is
there
a
way
to
combine
these?
So
that
the
worst
is
getting
served
first
or
does
it
have
to
be
this
way
because
of
federal
matches
and
so
forth?.
S
S
So
if
a
utility
were
operating
at
a
sub
standard
level,
whether
they
have
a
notice
of
violation
or
an
agreed
order
with
the
division
of
water
or
even
worse,
a
consent
decree
through
the
federal
government,
so
that
would
be
one
way
to
determine
they
weren't
operating
effectively
or
efficiently,
and
we
might
be
able
to
provide
funds
out
of
this.
Regionalization
account
to.
S
Let's
say
their
problem
was
inflow
and
infiltration,
so
they
let's
say
their
water
pipes
are
leaking
and
they're
producing
100
gallons,
but
they
only
sell
25
gallons
because
they're
losing
75
gallons
to
holes
in
the
pipes.
So
we
could
use
this
program
to
help
them
fix
the
holes
and
then
get
them
ready,
showing
technical.
So
then
they
would
have
technical
capacity
and
managerial
capacity
to
qualify
for
the
other
low
interest.
Loan
funds
through
our
larger
pools.
A
G
U
T
T
Our
cabinet
operations
include
44
state
parks,
including
1517
buildings,
and
this
coming
year
in
2024,
will
be
the
100th
anniversary
of
our
Kentucky
State
Park
system
and
in
that
is
17,
Resort
lodges,
14
historic
sites,
13
golf
courses,
34
pools
and
marinas
the
pools
and
beaches,
15
marinas,
32,
campgrounds,
12,
equestrian
competition,
Rings
80
horses,
including
one
Kentucky
Derby
winner
and
over
a
1.5
million
square
feet
of
event.
Space
and
55
Wildlife
Management
areas
totaling
over
161
thousand
acres.
U
All
right,
I'm
going
to
talk
about
our
maintenance
pools.
Our
maintenance
pools,
allow
us
to
address
emergency
repairs
quickly,
so
that
our
Revenue
generating
business
is
not
hindered.
Funding
our
agency's
emergency
maintenance
is
critical.
These
funds
are
vital
to
vital
to
protect
the
Commonwealth's
facilities.
U
Kentucky
state
parks
are
so
important
to
Kentucky's
11.2
billion
dollar
tourism
industry.
Our
Parks
not
only
bring
visitors
but
drive
revenue
and
create
employment
all
across
the
state.
These
capital
projects
are
a
priority
and
will
preserve
Park
lodges,
while
also
addressing
structural
and
mechanical
deficiencies.
U
U
For
example,
many
Park
Life
Safety
Systems
are
outdated
and
have
numerous
problems
at
our
lodges
cottages
and
Conference
Centers.
As
the
secretary
stated
earlier,
the
department
has
over
40
has
44
state
parks.
So,
as
you
go
through,
the
list,
you'll
quickly
recognize
the
desperate
need
for
upgrades
and
repairs.
T
Some
of
these
items
may
look
familiar
to
you:
40
million
toward
building
system
improvements,
22
million
toward
accommodation,
upgrades
and
22
million
toward
recreational
amenities
were
all
items
that
were
included
in
House
Bill
1
during
the
2022
legislative
session,
but
were
not
allocated
in
house
joint
resolution
76
during
the
this
last
legislative
session.
Without
this
funding,
Kentucky
state
parks
is
unable
to
make
the
critical
infrastructure
needs
that
infrastructure
and
the
sorely
needed
accommodation
and
recreational
improvements.
V
The
Kentucky
Artisan
Center
is
a
complex
opened
to
the
public
in
2003,
since
that
time,
20
years
has
passed
and
the
building
is
in
need
of
Renovations
and
repairs.
The
Artisan
Center
subsidized
over
850
artists
throughout
the
state
and
sells
their
products.
The
center
averages
300
000
visitors
each
year
and
two
to
three
hundred
motor
coaches
per
year.
Wear
and
tear
has
occurred
to
the
displays
kitchen
components:
appliances
as
well
as
Outdoor
Equipment.
V
This
equipment
needs
to
be
updated
and
replaced
as
repairs
have
become
so
frequent
that
they're
no
longer
financially
feasible
to
repair
to
continue
to
bring
travelers
to
the
center.
Tackling
outdoor
needs,
like
updating,
equipment
and
building
an
outdoor
venue
for
live
concerts,
will
greatly
increase
the
number
of
visitors
and
continue
to
support
Kentucky
artists.
T
Kentucky
Performing
Arts,
Kentucky,
Performing
Arts
operates
three
venues:
the
Kentucky
Center,
the
brown
theater
and
old
Foresters
Paris
Town
Hall.
In
addition
to
the
performances
in
those
facilities,
Kentucky
Performing
Arts
Outreach
programs
bring
Arts
to
children
and
adults
in
dozens
of
community
centers
health
care
facilities
and
schools
in
all
of
Kentucky's
educational
regions.
T
During
the
2122
season,
kPa
reported
an
attendance
of
over
248
000
visitors,
holding
375
events
and
collecting
over
25
million
in
Revenue.
Kpa's
Revenue
contributes
more
to
more
than
15.8
million
to
our
local
economy.
In
an
average
year
with
the
patron
spending
additional
10.5
million
annually
cultural
tourists
come,
they
stay
longer
and
they
spend
more
money
and-
and
that's
that's-
we
have
the
data
to
back
that
up
and
to
support
performances.
It
is
critical
to
invest
in
technical
equipment
systems
that
are
up
to
date
in
Industry
standards.
T
The
manufacturer
no
longer
supports
the
systems
in
Place,
replacement
parts
cannot
be
sourced
and
the
center
is
running
the
risk
of
certain
failures
during
performances.
Failure
of
these
systems
will
cause
performances
to
be
halted
and
will
be
catastrophic
to
the
reputation
and
the
financial
performance
of
the
Kentucky
Center.
Now
in
its
40th
year,
not
to
mention
the
safety
issues
for
the
staff
and
visitors,
three
projects
listed
will
greatly
enhance
the
visitor
experience
and
increase
the
visitation
in
our
tourism
experience.
V
The
Kentucky,
History,
Center
and
museums
has
welcomed
more
than
one
million
visitors
since
its
anchor
building
the
Thomas
D
Clark
Center
for
Kentucky
history
opened
in
1999..
The
Historical
Society
operates
three
buildings:
the
Kentucky
Old
State
Capitol,
the
Kentucky
Military
History
Museum,
and
the
Thomas
D
Clark
Center
for
Kentucky
history.
V
Krs-171.315
creates
a
priority
for
maintenance
of
the
Kentucky
Historical
Society
headquarters
and
the
old
state
capitol,
as
shall
be
the
highest
priority,
among
other
responsibilities
of
the
state
for
Capital,
Construction
maintenance
or
security
funding
for
the
Old
State
Capitol
will
address
issues
necessary
for
the
proper
preservation
and
protection
of
the
properties
and
those
who
visit
the
initial
scope
covers
plaster
preservation,
lighting
electrical
upgrades,
lead
paint
and
abatement,
exterior
landscaping
and
wayfinding
improvements.
The
Kentucky
Historical
Society
remaining
renovation
projects
will
create
a
modern
research
environment
to
serve
their
academic
and
genealogist
audience.
U
U
The
campground
request
is
much
needed,
the
campground
is
almost
always
booked
and
it's
a
great
Revenue
generator
for
the
park
projects
listed
include
the
entertainment
Pavilion
the
campground,
as
mentioned
earlier,
the
restaurant,
the
competition
Barns
and
the
Altec
Arena.
These
investments
will
preserve
and
increase
visitation.
U
U
U
And
lastly,
we'll
talk
about
the
Kentucky
Department
of
Fish
and
Wildlife
Resources.
Their
programs
produce
six
million
dollars
and
six
excuse
me
billion
dollars
in
total
economic
impact
and
support
over
70
000
jobs
in
the
state.
The
projects
listed
will
help
the
department
to
continue
to
conserve
and
can
enhance
Kentucky's,
Fish
and
Wildlife.
U
T
Most
of
the
leadership
of
these
agencies
are
behind
us
today
and,
as
you
can
see
by
our
our
slides
and
our
testimony,
that
the
the
influence,
the
impact
and
the
benefit
to
Kentucky's
economy
is
vast.
But
so
are
our
challenges.
So
the
the
the
capital
plan,
our
Capital
plan,
is
one
of
the
largest
in
state
government
and
it's
only
less
than
that
of
the
University
Systems.
But
but
we
feel
like
that.
T
The
requests
are
merited
and
that
in
order
to
be
competitive
and
to
continue
the
mission
of
the
cabinet
and
to
share
Kentucky
with
the
rest
of
the
nation
in
the
world
that
these
upgrades
in
this
investment
is
really
critical.
But
we
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
appear
before
you
today.
In
your
time.
A
W
In
support
of
this
Mission,
as
provided
by
Authority
and
KRS
chapter
177,
the
transportation
cabinet
is
responsible
for
the
construction,
reconstruction
and
maintenance
of
the
Commonwealth's
multimodal
transportation
system.
The
system
includes
more
than
27
600
miles
of
Highways,
which
consists
of
approximately
1400
miles
of
interstates
and
Parkways
3
900
miles
of
primary
roads.
22.
C
W
In
addition,
there's
a
maintenance
pool
request
specifically
for
renovating
and
rehabilitating
existing
District
Office
Buildings.
The
district
office
buildings
are
facing
challenges
not
only
due
to
the
high
cost
of
construction,
but
the
changing
pace
of
Technology,
smaller
Workforce
and
norms
for
daily
work,
working
space
necessary
to
conduct
the
cabinet's
business.
W
The
second
category
is
I.T.
We
have
one
it
related
need
to
update
and
maintain
existing
programs
used
throughout
the
cabinet
for
day-to-day
operations
through
the
use
of
ashtoware
kytc,
currently
subscribes
to
the
astral
Ware
project,
Bridge
maintenance,
safe
safety,
analyst
and
pavement
management
application.
W
This
project
would
allow
the
cabinet
to
stay
current
with
changes
in
federal
regulations
and
Technology
by
enabling
the
cabinet
to
implement
new
versions
of
the
ash
to
where
software
suite
on
a
regular
basis.
Many
of
these
products
are
moving
from
client
server,
based
to
web-based
requiring
a
more
in-depth
upgrade
path.
W
W
Overall,
the
Kentucky
Transportation
cabinets
Capital
needs
over
the
next
six
years,
total
approximately
242
million
in
Road
funds,
11.7
million
in
general
funds,
49.3
million
in
federal
funds
and
20.3
million
in
restricted
funds
and
I
have
some
folks
in
the
audience
that
are
from
different
areas.
In
the
academy
in
case,
you
have
specific
questions
about
anything.
G
A
X
So
the
question
was:
what
are
the
aircraft
used
for
yeah
yeah,
so
the
department
actually
has
five
aircraft,
a
three
airplanes,
Piper
Navajo
and
two
Cessna
Aircraft
and
then
two
Bell
helicopters
and
those
aircraft
are
used
for
several
purposes.
We
have
a
contract
with
the
federal
mining
agency,
and
so
the
helicopters
are
used
to
look
at
mine,
Reclamation
permits
and
the
like.
X
M
I
heard
audibly
in
your
presentation,
you
mentioned,
welcome
centers
and
rest
areas
and
I'm,
trying
to
pick
through
the
paperwork
to
find
those
and
I
see
one
like
maintenance
hidden
in
there.
But
I
thought
you
said
construction.
So
can
you
maybe
highlight
what
is
in
here
on
the
welcome
centers
or
rest
areas.
W
W
M
Okay,
follow-up,
Miss
German,
so
in
relation
to
the
overall
maintenance
and
upgrades
of
existing
rest
centers
is
that
lumped
in
somewhere
like
in
a
maintenance
pool,
or
do
we
have
that
sectioned
out
somewhere?
Because
what
I'm
kind
of
thinking
of
when
you
mention
that
is
there
are
a
few
rec
centers
in
Kentucky.
That
I
feel
are
very
embarrassing
and
it
I
don't
know
when
and
where
those
are
in
a
list
somewhere
of
getting
kind
of
re-revamped.
W
So
we
do
have
a
a
maintenance
pool
that
we
typically
receive
every
biennium
for
a
repair
of
rest
areas
and
waste
stations.
It's
it's
for
both
purposes,
currently
we're
asking
for
8
million
each
year
for
that
and
that
is
paid
for
with
Road
fund
dollars.
So
that's
just
for
a
little
bit
more
minor
repairs,
whereas
for
the
welcome
centers
and
the
expansion
of
truck
parking,
those
would
be
more
substantial.
So
we've
listed
those
separately,
but
we
always
I
I,
absolutely
agree
with
you.
W
A
Okay
well
saying
nothing
further.
Thank
you,
ma'am
productive
meeting
today,
seven
presentations
so
I
know
it
was
a
somewhat
long
meeting,
but
I
thought
we
got
some
good
information.
The
next
meeting
date
is
scheduled
for
3
P.M
on
Thursday
July
20th
in
this
same
meeting
room,
and
we
will
review
all
post-secondary
education
facilities
Capital
plan.
So
that
should
be
very
interesting.
Do
I
have
a
motion
to
adjourn
all
right
motion
Soldier.