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A
Our
first
order
of
business
today
is
secretary,
jim
gray,
welcome
to
the
budget
for
you
subcommittee
on
transportation
and
mr
secretary,
the
the,
if
you
would
just
everyone
in
the
room
knows
you,
but
for
the
record,
please
identify
yourself
and
let
me
I
forgot
one
thing:
I
have
a
guest
with
me
today.
My
grandson
david
is
back
in
the
in
the
back
there
right
behind
gay.
So
I
want
to
welcome
him
here
to
the
meeting
today.
A
He's
going
to
tolerate
me
today,
so
y'all
pass
along
your
sympathy
to
him
after
that
interruption.
Secretary
gray,
please
identify
yourself
for
the
record,
and
the
floor
is
yours.
D
All
right,
sir,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
thanks
to
everybody
on
the
committee,
and
I
always
try
to
say
when
I'm
before
you
all
thanks
for
your
public
service.
We
all
appreciate
that.
D
D
Now,
let's
talk
about,
I
want
to
talk
about
the
inflation
on
and
lettings
that
we've
had
in
the
cabinet
lettings
that
we're
experiencing
or
anticipating
soon,
and
what
we're
seeing
inflation
is
affecting
the
cabinet's
operations,
not
unexpectedly,
as
it
is
everything
else.
It
makes
it
harder
more
difficult
to
plan
and
more
difficult
to
budget.
D
Now
as
an
example,
we
recently
hosted
an
industry
forum
in
covington
for
prospective
bidders
for
the
brent
spence
bridge
the
corridor
project.
As
you
all
know,
it's
about
a
three
billion
dollar
project,
that's
what
our
estimate
has
been
and
we
had
contractors.
I
was
pleased
to
see
that
there
was
a
vigorous
interest.
We
had
contractors
from
around
the
country.
D
Many
of
these
contractors
were
saying
that
suppliers
would
guarantee
prices
for
only
30
days
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
that-
and
this
is
a
acknowledgement
to
the
legislature
for
years
ago,
for
giving
the
cabinet
the
flexibility
to
do
projects
on
a
design,
build
basis
or
progressive
design
bill
basis,
which
gives
us
the
flexibility
to
actually
adjust
and
adapt
in
this
environment
and
at
the
cabinet
the
division
of
construction
procurement.
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D
Overall
project
costs
have
been
on
the
rise,
so
it's
been
a
moving
target
now,
for
example,
the
kentucky
asphalt
price
index,
which
measures
liquid
tons
has
increased
by
46
percent
in
the
first
seven
months
of
the
year.
The
indexed
price
was
525
dollars
in
january
and
today
is
768..
That's
a
difference
of
242
dollars,
a
liquid
ton.
At
the
same
time,
the
oil
price
information
service
says
a
gallon
of
diesel
has
nearly
doubled
from
250
a
gallon
in
january
to
487
today.
D
D
I
know
that
many
of
you
all
know
about
that
project.
You've
known
about
it
for
years,
we
let
that
project,
part
of
and
part
of
which
will
take
the
highway
off
the
wolf
creek
dam.
The
cabinet
received
just
one
bid
for
that
project
of
105.2
million
dollars,
and
it
was
almost
17
above
the
engineer's
estimate.
D
So
our
awards
committee,
our
awards
committee,
declined
that
bid
rejected
that
bid
and
re-let
the
project
on
may
26th
the
net
the
may
leading
and
re-letting
sometimes
results
in
more
competition.
The
next
time
around.
That's
the
the
hope
or
the
expectation.
Well,
it
did
occur
in
this
case.
The
cabinet
received
not
one
but
two
responsive
bids.
On
the
second
try,
the
lower
of
the
two
was
105.4
million
or
200
000
more
than
the
original
offer,
and
it
was
from
the
same
contractor
that
had
earlier
submitted
the
single
bid
of
105.2
million.
D
D
D
The
cabinet
received
a
single
bid
of
23
million
and
it
was
also
almost
17
above
the
engineer's
estimate.
Ordinarily,
that
bid
might
have
been
rejected
and
re-let,
but
the
decision
was
made-
and
you
can
appreciate
this
because
of
interest
of
public
safety
and
the
condition
of
the
pavement
and
in
the
interest
of
the
public
of
the
traveling
public.
D
D
There
is
a
shortage
of
waterborne
paint
that
we
use
for
temporary
and
permanent
striping,
and
that
may
cause
some
delays
in
our
resurfacing
program.
It's
been
managed
thus
far,
but
there
is
anxiety
associated
with
that
as
well.
The
cabinet
has
temporarily
modified
paint
specifications
to
allow
the
use
of
a
broader
spectrum
of
colors,
for
example,
a
slightly
different
shade
of
yellow
than
what
we
might
normally
apply,
there's
also
a
shortage
of
cement
and
extended
lead
times
for
water
line
valves
and
some
electrical
components.
D
Our
division
of
construction
continues
to
hear
stories.
We
all
hear
stories
about
not
just
stories,
but
we
know
that
these
these
issues
are
significant
and
that
is
labor
shortages
and
truck
shortages
as
the
main
issue.
D
So
while
we
have
these,
while
we
have
these
conditions,
I
would
say
on
balance,
given
the
turbulence
and
given
the
volatility
that
the
road
program
is
being
managed
efficiently
and
effectively,
and
let
me
wrap
it
up
by
noting
that
the
cabinet
topped
1
billion
dollars
in
lettings
in
calendar
2021
that
was
up
from
about
800
million
the
previous
year
and
this
year
lettings
so
far,
are
just
under
572
million.
That's
through
may
and
as
it
happens,
our
awards
committee
is
meeting
today
to
act
on
june
lettings
prospect
on
the
june
lettings.
D
So,
mr
chairman,
that's
my
thoughts
on
on
inflation,
the
impact
of
inflation
on
the
on
the
road
fund.
I
guess,
if
I
were,
if
I
had
any
more
ability
to
prognosticate,
I
probably
wouldn't
be
sitting
here
in
front
of
you
today.
I'd
be
in
another
role
of
that.
Someone
would
expect
more
from
me,
but
that's
about
as
good
as
I
can
do
today.
A
Yes,
we'll
go
ahead
and
take
some
questions
now
and
before
you
get
into
the
the
other
things
on
the
agenda.
I
guess
would
you
if
you
don't
mind,
we
we
hear
about
design,
build
quite
often
yeah.
It's
not
used
a
whole
lot,
but
but
we
hear
the
words
design
build.
Would
you
kind
of,
I
guess
for
all
of
us
here
talk
about
the
criteria
for
design
build,
because
not
every
project
would
qualify
to
be
a
design,
build
right.
D
For
better
or
worse,
I
guess
I'll
preface
it
by
saying
that
in
a
previous
in
a
previous
life
in
the
private
sector,
I
actually
conceived
of
the
idea
because
conceived
of
the
idea
of
creating
a
what
is
today
the
design,
build
institute
of
america
and
the
reason
for
that
was.
There
was
no
advocacy
group
for
that
type
of
procurement
and
in
the
in
the
what's
called
in
the
in
the
civil
world,
I
learned
that
anything
above
ground
much
is
called
vertical
construction.
D
So,
in
the
vertical
world
design
build
has
been
around
for
some
time,
but
it's
its
growth
has
occurred
only
in
the
last.
Its
real
growth
has
occurred
in
the
last
10
15
20
years,
so
in
so
the
my
understanding
is
about
10
years
ago.
And
mr
chairman,
you
might
correct
me
on
this
because
you
were
here,
but
the
general
assembly
approved
a
design-build
model
for
procurement
for
delivery,
and
you
are
right.
D
There
are
a
number
of
criteria
that
would,
frankly
more
subjectively
than
objectively
allow
a
project
to
go
or
be
let
on
a
design
build
basis.
Now
what
I,
when
I
say
that
I
mean
that
you
have
to
take
into
account
schedule
you
have
to
take
into
account
a
competitive
environment.
You
have
to
take
into
account
the
scope
of
the
work,
especially
the
scope
of
the
work.
How
difficult
is
it
is
it?
D
30
as
compared
to
when
plans
and
specifications
would
be
developed
100
to
complete,
so
a
contractor
could
bid
on.
So
what
this
does
the
design
bill
does
is
it
requires
the
contractor
to
provide
that
70
remaining
engineering
and
develop
the
project
to
a
sufficient
level
that
the
contractor
can
bid
on
the
project
and
give
a
competitive
and
confident
bid
on
the
project.
D
D
Again,
what
it
does
is
it
allows
done
properly.
It
allows
us
to
get
the
project
to
a
bid
phase
earlier
if
we
get
it
to
a
bidding
phase.
Earlier
than
it
can
be
built
earlier
constructed
earlier
as
a
reference,
the
louisville
bridge,
one
of
the
two
louisville
bridges
that
the
that
you
know
indiana
was
responsible
for
one
of
the
louisville
bridges.
Kentucky
was
responsible
for
the
other
one
and
mike
hancock
who's.
Here,
deputy
secretary
today
was
secretary
then,
and
he
pushed
that
project
forward
and
that
one
was
done
on
a
design-build
basis.
D
At
exceptionally
efficient
and
quick
speed,
so
all
that
said
we're
looking
at
this
for
the
brent
spence
we're
looking.
We
have
also
examined
it
on
other
projects
where
it's
appropriate,
the
it's
not
always
appropriate,
because
more
often
we
have
the
time
for
developing
the
specifications
fully
and
we
can
go
through
it
and
another
another.
D
Frankly
another
issue
in
design
build
for
civil
projects.
Is
it
it's
very
costly
to
develop
the
a
a
bid
when
you
have
to
take
the
30
percent,
complete
documents
and
perhaps
estimate
from
those
or
do
more
engineering,
so
the
engineering
costs
associated
with
design
build
are
higher,
so
that
also
influ,
and
that
can
influence,
of
course,
then
the
competition
I
realize
I
said
a
lot
there
and
forgive
me
for
having.
Maybe
what
is
it
they
say
the
last
thing
a
fish
can
describe
is
water
and
I've
just
tried
to
describe
water.
D
A
A
And
I
think
there's
there's
language
in
the
in
the
budget
about
the
mega
projects
being
authorized
in
them
and
then
some
smaller
projects,
authorization
for
right,
smaller
projects-
I
don't
know
what
that
number
is,
but
it
is
a
limited
number
right.
Of
course
we
talked
about
inflation,
something
that's
important
to
all
of
us
here
as
as-
and
we
get
more
calls
about-
probably
rather
than
new
construction
about
the
paving
of
the
rural
rule
and
secondary
roads.
Can
you
give
us
kind
of
a
update?
How
that's
progressing?
A
D
D
They
will
also
receive
the
revenue
sharing
on
schedule
with
the
first
payment
at
the
beginning
of
august
and,
moreover,
governor
beshear
has
committed
that
from
the
executive
at
the
executive
level
that
he
will
propose
to
the
next
general
assembly
to
use
money
from
the
general
fund
surplus
to
restore
revenue
sharing
to
the
level
included
in
the
budget
for
the
original
budget
for
fiscal
year
2023,
which
would
take
us
to,
I
think,
354.,
371
million,
all
together.
D
A
D
A
I
know
we
we
talked
about.
You
mentioned
labor
issues,
yes
and
availability.
The
pay
raises
went
in
effect
july
1..
Well,
that
will
that
help.
D
We
sure
hope
so
and
the
next
one
that
we
hope
will
come
around
will
help
even
more.
It
is
a
you
know
when
walmart
advertises
that
they
will
pay
truck
drivers
a
hundred
and
ten
thousand
dollars
a
year.
You
can
imagine
what
that
represents
to
the
rest
of
to
others,
but
especially
to
the
public
sector,
because
you
know
this
is
nothing
new
to
you
all,
but
I
can
say
it
from.
I
remember
a
time
when
it
was
really
tough
to
hire
in
the
private
sector.
Anybody
in
the
public
sector
because
of
the
pension
benefits.
D
So
you
asked
me
this
question,
mr
chairman,
so
I
I
won't
filibuster
on
you
on
it.
I
promise,
but
I
will
say
a
couple
of
things,
but
in
the
private
sector
I'm
told
that
a
entry-level
engineer
is
anywhere
from
coming
out
of
college
anywhere
from
60
to
70
000
a
year
and
our
offers
are
at
somewhere
around
40.
I
think
in
that
right,
yep
right
so
you
can.
D
You
can
doesn't
take
any
kind
of
special
effort
to
realize
that
that
we're
at
a
disadvantage
strategically
and
in
that
area
and-
and
it's
it's
very
much
the
same
with
our
with
our
with
our
our
front
line
employees.
D
We
do
appreciate
that,
but
they
appreciate
the
the
effort
that's
made
in
the
last
session
for
sure
I
was.
A
Going
to
say
across
the
entire
cabinet,
a
lot
of
your
folks
are
working
40
hours
a
week,
but
those
engineers
are
still
37
and
a
half
and
you
can
get
them
up
to
market
value,
go
ahead
and
give
them
a
work
40
hours.
They
won't
find
a
job
in
the
private
sector
that
that
works
for
them.
They'll
be
working
50
hours
in
the
private
sector
to
make
that
kind
of
money
you're
talking
about.
But
if
you
change
them
to
40
hours
a
week,
that's
a
six
and
a
half
percent
pay
raise.
I
know.
A
Of
course,
we
understand
what
the
criticism
that
we
get
for
single
bid
contracts,
and
so
you
know-
and
I
guess
it's
good
to
hear
your
story
about
you-
know,
re-bidding
and
and
that
you
are
looking
at
that
very
seriously,
and
I
appreciate
that.
Thank.
D
You,
yes,
sir,
you
want
me
to
segue
over
jump
over
to
or
absolutely
over
to
the
mega
projects.
Yes,
sir,
all
right.
Okay,
I
don't
want
to
infringe
too
much
on
y'all's
time,
so
all
right
on
the
mega
projects,
that's
basically
as
we're
defining
those
projects,
three
projects,
it's
the
it's
the
I-69
corridor,
the
approach
and
the
bridge
in
between
evan
evansville
and
henderson.
D
The
brent
spence
corridor
project,
including
the
bridge
and
the
mountain
parkway
so
but
before
I
go
into
all
of
those,
I
want
to
acknowledge
and
thank
the
legislature
for
enacting
governor
beshear's
recommended
budget
of
250
million
in
general
fund
dollars
for
major
transportation
infrastructure
projects
that
really
re.
That
will
genuinely
help
our
competitiveness
for
the
grants,
and
so
there's
genuine
appreciation
and
recognition
for
that.
These
one-time
funds
will
give
us
the
flexibility
to
meet
the
state
match
requirements
for
federal
grants.
We
expect
to
secure
without
compromising
the
road
prop
the
traditional
road
plan.
D
I
guess
I
should
punctuate
it.
We
are
delivering
on
those
commitments.
The
I-69
project
is
the
groundbreaking
for
it
was
held
last
week
with
a
significant
presence
of
folks
it.
The
bid
of
158
million
dollars
was
actually
under
the
engineers
estimate
and
significant
and
competitive
with
three
other
bids.
D
Project
has
divided
itself
into
six
segments
and
more
of
half
more
than
half
of
the
parkway
is
complete
or
under
construction.
Now
this
is
the
entire
I-69,
and
I'm
sorry
you
all
forgive
me
we're
talking
about.
I
was
talking
about
the
mountain
parkway
you
all
should
just
I
was
talking
about
the
mountain
parkway.
Let
me
turn
back
to
the
mountain
parkway.
I
got
off
on
I-69
because
I
said
I-69
last.
Forgive
me.
D
D
D
Now
the
wolf
county
segment
of
the
parkway
expansion
is
the
final
piece
to
making
the
current
parkway
four
lanes
all
the
way
from
winchester
through
salyersville
and
that's
78
continuous
miles.
It's
the
longest
of
all
the
segments.
So
far,
three
construction
segments
are
complete.
One
is
currently
under
construction
in
mcgoffin
county
that
4.6
mile
segment
will
be
complete
next
year,
so
we
are
committed
to
seeing
the
mountain
parkway
expansion
to
completion,
extending
the
parkway
from
salyersville
to
prestonsburg,
which
is
another
14
total
miles.
D
D
D
Two
weeks
ago
I
mentioned
it
already
that
the
governor
broke
ground
on
the
first
section
of
the
I-69
ohio
river
crossing.
We
were
pleased
with
the
contractor.
That's
doing
the
project.
It
is
a
design
build
project
by
the
way
got
competitive
bids
for
it
and
a
very,
very
competitive
bids.
For
it
there
were
all
kinds
of
folks
at
the
at
the
opening.
D
I
don't
know
if
anybody
here
anybody
here
was
there,
but
it
was
a
quite
a
turnout
and
then
there
was
after
that
there
was
a
joint
rotary
and
lions
club
meeting
at
which
the
governor
spoke,
and
it
was.
It
was
all
about
pretty
much
all
about
the
enthusiasm
associated
with
I-69.
D
So
I'm
looking
at
my
notes,
mr
chairman,
and
I'm
seeing
that
I'm
talking
a
lot
about
this
I-69
project
and
I
was
planning
on
talking
about
the
brent
spence
as
well,
but
I'm
also
seeing
that
it's
1102
and
I
want
to
be
mindful
of
your
time.
The
short
the
shorthand
version
of
I-69
is
it's
underway,
it's
underway
on
schedule.
We
are
working
with
indiana
to
put
together
a
plan
where
we
may
be
able
to
accelerate
the
project
right
now.
D
The
plan
calls
for
constructing
the
actual
bridge
in
2027.,
but
both
indiana
and
kentucky
have
a
real
interest
in
working.
If
we
can
to
accelerate
the
project
now,
let
me
shift
over
to
the
brent
spence
a
lot
of
interest,
of
course,
in
the
brent
spence.
It
really
is
the
the
poster
child
of
the
infrastructure
bill.
D
This
represents
the
first
time
that
we've
had
what
I
would
describe
and
others
have
described
as
a
bona
fide
shot
at
getting
this
project
done
in
the
15
or
more
years
since
it's
been
studied
and
plans
have
been
developed
on
it.
There
is
a
clear
and
a
visible
path
toward
the
funding
that
will
enable
us
to
build
the
project
of
this
size.
D
Governors,
dewine
and
governor
bashir
met
in
covington
to
sign
a
memorandum
mou
solidifying
the
plans,
and
that
was
in
february
the
states
applied
in
may,
with
more
than
200
letters
of
support.
Our
federal
delegation
fully
support
in
full
support
of
the
project.
Our
we
got
letters
from
the
leadership
of
course
of
the
house
and
the
senate
kentucky,
and
we
got
letters
from
the
private
sector
as
many
letters
according
to
my
sources
of
that
they
have
never
gotten
as
many
letters
of
support
for
any
grant
application
at
the
u.s
department
of
transportation.
D
I
mentioned
that
we
are
also
considering
this
project
as
a
design
build
for
a
design,
build
delivery,
and
that
is
also
an
anticipation
of
the
delivery
of
the
project
in
a
design-build
basis
and
with
the
environmental
assessment
work.
That's
already
been
done
with
where
we
stand
with
with
the
project
development
working
with
ohio
and
kentucky.
D
We
should
be
on
target.
I
shouldn't,
I
won't
say
we
should
be
well
it's.
The
condition
is
when
we
get
when
we
get
grant
approval.
I
didn't
say
if
only
I
I'll
find
some
wood
here
somewhere,
but
if
there's
any
project,
that's
earning
that
has
earned
this
federal
support.
It
is
the
brent
spence.
D
D
I
do
want
to
mention
that
we're
working
on
a
second
grant
application
for
the
project,
the
bridge
investment
act
or
the
bridge
investment
program,
and
that
will
be
coming
in
in
august.
We
experi.
D
So,
mr
chairman,
that's
my
comments
on
the
that's
my
comments
on
the
mega
projects.
We've
got
some
questions
happy
to
take
them.
A
D
A
I'm
going
to
put
in
a
plug
for
the
general
assembly.
Absolutely
yes,
sir.
A
commitment
to
this
project.
Senator
mcdaniel
is
here.
Senator
mcdaniel
and
representative
petry
made
sure
that
250
million
dollars
was
was
available
plus
some
other
general
fund
dollars
to
the
roe
fund
and
we're
we're
appreciative
of
that.
A
Also,
the
general
assembly's
commitment
after
the
budget
was
was
finished
and
voted
on
and
proved
in
the
session
very
late.
A
In
the
session
we
received
a
call
from
ron
rigney
telling
us
that
you
had
the
administration
that
decided
to
just
to
make
our
chances
better
for
the
ben
spence
bridge
to
just
apply
for
this
first
round
just
for
the
ben
spence
bridge
and
not
apply
for
mountain
parkway
and
I-69,
and
they
needed
additional
funds
to
to
do
a
section
of
the
mountain
parkway
that
was
needed
to
be
and,
and
so
our
golden
rule
has
always
been
not
to
reopen
that
budget.
A
But
because
of
our
commitment
to
the
mountain
parkway,
we
did
reopen
the
budget.
We
did
another
another
bill,
a
cleanup
bill
and
included
that
and
some
other
projects
in
that
to
make
sure
that
that
was
taken
care
of.
So
we
have
we,
we
are
committed
to
to
getting
those
things
getting
those
done.
When
will
you
you.
A
Thank
you
and,
and
it
it
goes
both
ways.
So
it's
thank
you
for
so
you've
applied
for
the
ben
spence
bridge
money.
What
type
of
match
did
we
put
up
for
that?
I
know
there
was
conversations.
Last
year
we
came
up
empty-handed
because
we
didn't
do
any
additional
match
and
some
other
states
did
30
and
40
percent
matches
too.
That's.
A
I'm
you've
learned
less,
we've
learned
less
than
the
other
and
I
don't
know
whether.
D
A
When
you
have
a
round
of
funding
and
and
we
don't
get
a
single
one
to
the
state
of
kentucky-
you
have
to
look
back
and
see
what
we're
doing
wrong
right,
so
so
the
I-69
and
the
mountain
parkway.
When
do
you
see
those
being
put
forth
for
a
grant
proposal
for
them?.
D
We're
talking
with
we're
having
these
conversations
literally,
I've
had
two
conversations
with
secretary
of
highways
transportation,
equivalent
or
my
counterpart
in
indiana
in
the
last
week,
and
we
are
in
conversations
both
indiana's
indiana's
engineering
staff
and
project
management
staff
and
our
engineering
project
managed
staff
are
in
conversations
with
together
to
see.
If
we
can
accelerate
that
to
see
if
we
can
accelerate
and
if
we
can
accelerate,
then
it
would,
we
would
be
looking
at
grant
applications.
D
I
think
it's
going
to
be
tough
to
get
something
in
this
year,
but
but
next
year
for
sure.
D
Okay,
well,
that
that's
the
that's
the
the
brent's,
I'm
sorry,
that's
I-69,
right,
okay
and
then,
of
course,
we've
gotten
an
infra
for
the
for
mountain
parkway
for
the
for
the
for
the
section
underway,
the
campton
to
halichowa,
section.
A
Well,
that's
that
that's
good!
That's
all
the
questions
I
have
mr
secretary
of
senator
mcdaniel
has
a
question.
D
B
B
We
both
want
to
crawl
under
the
table
on
that
pricing.
Right
now,
I
know
yeah.
You
know
my
only
thought,
mr
secretary,
thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
the
time,
but
I
think
we
need
to
be
very,
very
careful
as
we
take
general
fund
dollars
and
look
at
shifting
them
over
to
the
road
fund.
B
First
of
all,
just
because
it's
a
matter
of
separation
in
those
dollars,
I
think
there's
a
certain
budgetary
discipline
to
not
transfer
them,
but
secondly,
especially
if
we
continue
to
see
the
advent
of
the
electric
vehicles,
we
have
a
real
potential
to
obfuscate,
a
decline
in
road
fund
revenues
when
we
really
need
to
understand
the
impact
that
it's
having
operationally
on
the
roads.
So
I
just
you
know.
B
Obviously
we
had
a
really
odd
situation,
this
last
budget
cycle,
where
that
money
was
able
to
be
transferred
one
to
the
other,
but
I
think
if
we
get
into
too
many
cycles
in
a
row
of
that,
as
you
know,
we
could
really
create
a
situation,
particularly
with
the
general
public,
where
they
aren't
necessarily
aware
of
the
disproportionate
impact
of
that
shift,
as
it
relates
to
road.
B
So
that
was
my
only
cautionary
tale,
but
other
than
that,
thanks
for
the
update.
Yes,
sir.
A
Thank
you,
that's
speaking
of
money
to
the
road
fund,
one
one
thing
that
I've
advocated
and
and
senator
mcdaniel,
always
he
kind
of
cringes
when
I
say
it,
but
I'll
say
it
yeah.
I
know
that
is:
is
move
the
property
tax
on
vehicles
that
money
now
is
going
to
the
general
fund.
The
state
portion
I'd
like
to
see
that
move
to
the
road
fund.
A
So
that's
that's
something
I
lobby,
for
that
would
would
certainly
certainly
help
not
a
great
deal,
but
it
would
certainly
help
and
look
he's
he's
cringing,
but
anyway
it
doesn't
hurt
the
lobby.
Does
it
senator
mcdaniel
doesn't
cost
a
thing
we'll
see.
No
further
questions.
Mr
secretary,
thank
you
for
being
here
today.
D
D
D
A
D
Let
me
try
to
let
me
try
to
shrink
wrap.
This
there's
been
a
I've
used.
The
word
vigorous
effort
three
times
today,
but
there's
been
a
vigorous
effort
to
try
to
con
try
to
constrain
limit
the
increase
in
the
total
increase
for
the
louisville
bridges,
a
vigorous
effort,
starting
with
starting
with
the
transportation
cabinet.
The
governor
has
had
conversations
with
the
with
governor
holcomb
of
indiana.
All
this
has
been.
D
All
of
this
has
been
reported,
but
I
just
want
to
say
I
just
want
to
say
that
that's
been
the
that's
been
the
full
intent
to
try
to
limit
the
struggle
that
the
folks
are
having,
and
the
increase
of.
We
felt
that
the
increase
of
8.3
percent
was
just
too
much
we
need.
We
were
fine
with
our
debt
service
and
our
maintenance
obligations
at
two
and
a
half
percent
increase,
which
has
been
the
increase
for
some
time
now,
so
we
appealed
to
indiana
it.
D
Of
course
it's
a
bi-state
agreement
and
for
the
tolling
body
to
make
an
adjustment
outside
of
its
business
rules
and
the
business
rules
call
for
growth
of
the
growth
of
the
of
the
toll
by
the
cpi
consumer
price
index.
Consumer
price
index
through
may
was
8.3
percent,
and
that's
where
that
number
then
came
from.
D
But
we
knew
through
our
analysis
that
we
could
certainly
deal
with
our
debt
obligations
and
our
maintenance
and
our
operations
needs
with
an
increase
of
no
more
than
two
and
a
half
percent.
Indiana
didn't
see
it
that
way.
Now
indiana
has
a
different
set
of
circumstances.
D
They've
got
private
toll
roads,
and
that
was
the
position
of
indiana.
We
are
still
advocating
through
kiptia
the
kentucky
and
the
kentucky
infrastructure
authority,
a
public
public
infrastructure
authority
which
has
a
governance
role
for
the
louisville
bridges.
We
are
still
advocating
for
a
more
modest
increase
of
that
of
that
increase
that
8.3
percent,
so
we're
still
advocating
we're
not
going
to
leave
any
stone
unturned
in
continuing
to
advocate
for
a
lower
for
a
lower
rate.
A
D
It
was
not
anticipated.
This
is
the
thing
that
that
inflation
at
this
level
was
not
anticipated
when
the
tolling
body
was
inc
was
created
and
when
the
and
when
the,
when
the
finances
of
the
on
the
project
were
developed,
financials.
A
Is
that
is
that
possible
can
can
kentucky
go
back
and
just
with
our
legislation
on
our
behalf,
put
a
cap
on
the
increases
for
the
future,
where
the
percentage
of
cpi
to
cap
it
now.
D
But
I
would
I
would
I
don't
know
that
answer
because.
A
D
D
A
Happen
again,
but
okay,
all
right.
A
D
A
Sarah
and
matt
thank
you
for
being
here
today
and
if
you
don't
mind,
introduce
yourself
and
please
proceed,
we're
talking
about
real
id
and
and
other
issues.
E
So,
thank
you
all
for
having
us.
Mr
chairman.
I
appreciate
your
comments
about
brevity
and
you'd
already
told
me
to
limit
it
to
five
minutes,
so
I'm
going
to
do
my
best,
but
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
hit
a
couple
high
points
about
where
the
program
is
now
because
I
think
that
feeds
right
into
where
matt
can
share
with
you,
where
we
are
budgetarily.
E
So
just
to
remind
you
all
house
bill
453
in
2020
created
a
new
regional
model
for
driver
licensing,
and
it
was
in
large
part
brought
about
by
the
real
id
the
federally
mandated
real
id
program.
E
So
the
new
regional
model
provided
by
the
provided
that
the
kentucky
transportation
cabinet
division
of
driver
licensing
assume
all
responsibilities
associated
with
issuance
of
the
standard
and
the
real
ids
transitioning
kentucky's
120
circuit
court,
clerks
off
driver
licensing
and
id
card
issuance
no
later
than
june,
30th
of
this
year,
2022
and
I'm
sitting
before
you
and
pleased
to
report
and
proud
of
the
team
work
that
went
into
this.
I'm
pleased
to
report
that
the
transportation
assumed
all
issuance
from
the
circuit
clerks
prior
to
june
30th
of
2022..
E
This
has
represented
one
of
the
largest
statewide
projects
ever
assumed
by
the
transportation
cabinet,
with
the
majority
of
the
time
since
the
legislation's
passage
occurring
during
a
pandemic.
So
while
we
are
still
very
much
a
work
in
progress,
I
want
to
share
just
a
couple
points
of
where
we
are.
We
have
31
driver
licensing
regional
offices
open
across
the
commonwealth,
I'm
not
going
to
list
them
they're
on
a
map
on
drive.ky.gov.
E
E
The
most
recent
adjustment
we've
made,
as
you
know,
we
offer
appointments
online
and
we
also
offer
walk-ins,
as
you
can
imagine,
the
walk-ins
fill
up
at
a
certain
point.
Each
day
we
now
are
offering
online
our
newest
feature
of
the
appointment.
Scheduler
is
a
posted
notification
each
day
relative
to
each
of
the
31
offices
that
the
walk-ins
have
filled
up.
So
someone
can
check
before
they
tend
to
want
to
go
as
a
walk-in.
They
can
probably
check
that's
something
we
can
do
at
least
to
help
offer
greater
services
remote
options.
E
We
continue
to
work
very
hard
on
remote
options
allowing
kentuckians
to
skip
a
trip.
I
just
want
to
tell
you
that
178
000
kentuckians
have
skipped
a
trip
to
the
licensing
office
and
renewed
their
driver's
license
credentials
online
or
their
id
card.
Since
june
of
2021
and
15
000,
more
than
15
000
people
have
sent
a
mail-in
renewal
or
an
address
change
or
replacement
of
a
lost
or
stolen
card.
So
those
are
that's
a
significant
offering
to
the
people
that
had
never
been
available
with
the
120
circuit
clerks.
E
I
want
to
mention
our
pop-up
events.
I
hope
you
have
heard
about
them
in
your
lo.
In
your
areas.
Our
mobile
driver
licensing
program
is
called
the
pop-up
program
and
we
visit
each
kentucky
county
that
doesn't
host
a
regional
office
by
statute.
We
go.
We
visit
a
certain
number
of
times
per
year,
it's
based
on
county
population.
E
We
had
we
started
it
in
earnest
in
january,
and
we
had
our
hundredth
pop-up
visit
in
robertson
county
on
june
30th.
I
just
want
to
tell
you
that
we've
served
2500
local
residents
with
the
pop-up
program
so
far,
and
we've
held
them
so
far
in
81
counties,
so
we're
on
second
and
third
and
fourth
visits,
so
we're
getting
great
cooperations
with
the
counties
with
the
libraries
with
county
judge
executives,
and
it
seems
that
that
the
folks
in
the
counties
are
very
very
appreciative
of
this
effort.
So
again
kudos
to
you
all.
E
That
was
part
of
the
statute
that
was
part
of
what
you
created
in
453.
Finally,
just
a
quick
word
about
real
id.
The
enforcement
deadline
for
real
id
is
may
3
of
2023,
and
I
do
want
to
share
with
you
that
kentucky's
real
id
adoption
rate,
meaning
the
percent
of
kentuckians,
who
are
choosing
to
get
a
real
id,
is
currently
at
12.7
percent.
E
Now
we
only
started
in
earnest
in
2020
and
the
adoption
rate
stood
at
one
percent.
We
are
expecting
in
this
state.
A
final
adoption
rate
of
35
to
45
percent
of
our
population
will
adopt
a
form
of
real
id
will
adopt
a
real
id
credential,
it's
not
as
high
as
other
states.
I
want
to
hit
that
right
off
and
let
you
know,
but
if
you
all
will
remember,
we
were
very
very
late
to
the
game.
E
We
were
one
of
the
last
three
or
four
states
in
the
united
states
to
enact
the
in
state
law
the
federally
mandated
program.
So
I
think
that
you're
going
to
hear
a
lot.
Our
focus
now
for
the
next.
The
next
for
for
the
foreseeable
future,
is
going
to
be
tightening
up
these
31
offices.
E
E
Let
us
know
that
they're
starting
a
big
advertising
campaign
in
the
fall,
so
we're
working
very
hard
on
our
approach
to
that,
and
I
think
you're
going
to
hear
a
whole
lot
of
real
id
because
remember
if
you
want
to
fly
or
if
you
want
to
go
to
on
a
military
base
or
enter
a
power
plant
or
in
or
a
federal
building,
that
currently
requires
a
real
life,
an
id
a
form
of
id
you're
going
to
need
a
form
of
real
id.
E
So
this
adoption
rate
just
so
that
you're
aware
some
people,
first
of
all
we're
a
voluntary
state.
We
do
not
require
folks
to
get
a
real
id,
so
we're
not
we're
never
going
to
have
100
or
even
close
to
that
for
an
adoption
rate.
And
secondly,
we
need
to
remember
that
we
had
a
pandemic
people,
weren't
traveling,
it
wasn't
on
their
mind.
We
also
have
had
the
enforcement
deadline
changed
many
many
times
due
to
the
pandemic
and
also
states
coming
on
board
late,
etc.
E
So
there
are
lots
of
reasons
that
we
will
see
a
lot
of
growth.
E
I
think
in
the
real
ids
in
the
upcoming
nine
months,
and
also
everybody
may
not
need
a
real
id
by
may
3rd,
so
I
I
urge
you,
the
only
people
will
need
an
in-office
visit
to
get
a
real
id
and
they
should
be
planning
it
and,
as
I
said,
we're
going
to
have
a
very
intense
focus
campaign,
so
I'm
going
to
turn
over
to
matt
and
let
him
share
with
you
now
that
you
sort
of
know
where
we
are
in
the
big
picture
I'll.
E
F
In
review
of
our
budget,
we
will
finish
fiscal
year
22
with
74
percent
of
our
overall
driver
license
budget
being
expended,
but
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
we
are
still
growing
into
that
budget.
We
are
just
now
finalizing
our
latest
regional
office
locations
with
those
costs
coming
on
board
now,
and
our
team
has
hired
a
little
hat
a
little
over
half
of
our
permanent
full-time
staff
fiscal
year.
23
will
show
our
budget
under
more
of
a
full
load,
as
this
program
continues
to
grow
toward
maturity.
F
For
future
technology,
as
we
identify
industry
that
continues
to
evolve
and
change,
kytc
will
evolve
with
it
later
this
year,
we'll
be
launching
our
mobile
driver's
license
program
that
will
enable
citizens
to
put
a
digital
copy
of
their
credential
onto
their
smartphone
wallets.
This
technology
will
offer
offer
more
options
for
the
citizens
of
the
commonwealth,
and
it
will
limit
the
information
shared
to
only
what's
necessary
within
those
transactions.
F
Tsa
will
be
a
leader
in
this
technology,
and
many
people
will
see
this
and
transactions
occurring
at
most
commercial
airports.
Later
this
later
this
year
as
an
option,
we
do
invent
envision
eventually
having
an
app
that
anyone
could
download
to
provide
an
update
on
driver
status,
remote
renewal,
uploading,
any
necessary
photos
or
documents
and
keeping
us
in
touch
with
all
3.1
million
of
our
credential
holders.
F
Our
kytc,
it
team,
has
begun
the
task
of
replacing
our
mainframe
kidless
database
with
a
web-based
solution
that
will
be
known
as
kindle.
This
will
produce
a
system
that
will
be
more
user-friendly
for
our
employees,
and
it
will
also
lead
to
automation
that
will,
in
turn,
expedite
the
services
that
we
provide
all
kentuckians.
F
These
items
are
on
the
horizon
are
quickly
approaching
us.
We
will
work
diligently
to
bring
these
product
products
to
the
state
as
they
come
available
as
we
find
the
best
way
to
bring
them
to
life
for
driver
testing.
Kentucky
state
police
will
still
continue
to
lead
the
way
with
driver
testing
and
I'm
glad
to
report
that
our
partnership
has
grown
even
stronger
through
this
transition
major
day
and
captain
johnson
are
great
to
work
with
and
are
consistently
working
on,
improvements
for
driver
testing
that
will
be
a
benefit
to
all
new
drivers.
F
We've
also
confirmed
that
no
ksp
post
will
be
shut
down
and
will
remain
operational
all
across
the
state
as
we
move
forward,
we'll
continue
to
solicit
and
receive
input
regarding
all
locations
in
production.
Adjusting
where
when
and
where
needed.
One
of
our
next
step
steps
will
be
to
evaluate
staffing
levels
at
all
regional
offices
to
ensure
we
can
provide
the
best
customer
experience
possible.
F
A
Thank
you
both.
I
certainly
appreciate
it
one
I
want
to
first
off
commend
both
of
you
and
and
the
secretary
and
for
the
availability
and
and
the
response
that
we
get
from
the
transportation
cabinet
when
there's
an
issue
and
I'd
encourage
all
my
all
the
members
here
today
to
make
sure
that
if
they
have
an
issue,
especially
with
driver's
license
and
they're
out
there,
we
it's
it's
an
adjustment
phase
and-
and
it's
you
know
some
tough
times
right
now.
A
Well,
we
will,
you
know,
I
know
you
all
working
and
I
talk
about
sarah
talking
too
much,
but
I've
talked
to
her
more
in
the
last
year
than
I've
talked
to
anybody.
I
can.
I
can
think,
of,
and
they've
she's
been
very
responsive
on
working
on
the
issues
that
that
constituents
are
having
with
these
regional
offices,
and
I
appreciate
that
I
want
to
emphasize
too
and
as
you
do,
your
your
public
service
announcements,
real
id
is
not
required
in
kentucky
correct.
You
only
have
to
have
it.
A
If
you
want
to
fly
on
a
commercial
flight,
you
want
to
visit
a
military
base
or
a
federal
courthouse
and,
and
you
mentioned
power
plants,
I
didn't.
A
A
A
That
will
will
help
folks
as
they
transition
through
this,
and
I
saw
the
percentage
one
time
of
how
many
kentuckians
have
passports
and
it's
quite
high
and-
and
I
tell
folks
that
I
don't
have
a
real
idea-
don't
plan
to
get
one
I'll
use
my
my
passport
card
and
they
asked
me
why
and
I
said
well,
I
voted
against
real
id,
so
I
feel
I
don't
want
to
be
a
hypocrite.
A
I'm
gonna
do
it
that
way
and
and
and
so,
but
just
I
think,
the
knowledge
to
be
able
to
talk
to
constituents
when
they
call
and
let
them
know
that
there
are
options,
absolutely
number
one
they
don't
have
to
have
it.
Grandma
doesn't
have
to
have
a
real
id
if
she's
not
gonna,
fly
or
go
to
a
federal
courthouse
or
grandad
and
online
it's
available
online.
A
It's
very
simple!
You
take
your
iphone
and
and
a
credit
card
and
renew
your
driver's
license
and
you're
forever
young.
Sarah.
You
use
the
same
picture.
That's
on
your
id
now,
so
you
don't
you
don't
age,
much
doing
it
that
way
and
they're
also
available
by
mail
and
you
can
send
cash
and-
and
I
know
you
told
me
once
I
might
share
with
committee-
about
the
the
the
mail-in
option
and
and
the
cash
that
you
receive
in
the
mail.
E
E
Really
was-
and
I
know
that
many
this
again
is
you
know
it's
a
regional
thing,
but
I
know
that
I
hear
from
circuit
clerks.
You
know
they
took
cash
for
years
for
driver's
licenses.
That's
how
people
paid
in
a
lot
of
counties.
They
didn't
use
anything
but
cash
and
we
allowed
cash
with
the
mail-in
option.
E
We
couldn't,
you
know,
can't
figure
it
out
on
obviously
on
an
online
renewal,
but
you
could
do
it
on
the
mail-in
and
we
do
have
you
know
proper
procedures,
for
you
know,
handling
the
cash
and
accepting
it
etc,
but
it's
mounds
of
it.
I
mean
people
prefer
to
send
in
cash
and
I
wouldn't
send
in
cash-
I
you
know,
but
I
I
guess
I'm
from
a
different
age
or
school
or
something,
but
anyway
it
is
amazing.
We
do
get
quite
a
few,
I
mean,
and
people
prefer
to
do,
that
those
are
for
renewals
or
replacements.
A
As
you
see,
there's
quite
a
few,
and
I
appreciate
you
all
making
those
changes
and
again,
if
any
of
you
have
issues
from
constituents
like
I
said,
they've
been
very
responsive
and
please
call
them
or
you
can
comment,
call
me
to
help
with
it,
but
we'll
we
will
get
to
get
this
done
if
the
transition
has
not
been
exactly
the
way.
You
would
like
to
see
it,
but
it's
we've
we've
gotten
through
it
with
bumps
and
bruises.
A
F
We're
hoping
to
have
that
online,
this
fall
as
long
as
the
procurement
process
goes,
but
from
what's
been
proposed,
it'll
be
additional
parking
better
layout.
Just
one
of
those
lessons
that
we
learned
along
the
way.
It
was
one
of
our
first
offices
and
going
forward.
We've
applied
that
information
with
other
offices
to
to
avoid
those
issues
and
we'll
get
this
one
corrected
as
well.
E
But
I
think
it
shows
that
you
know
that
we
are
very
willing
to
see
where
there
have
been
design.
You
know
mistakes
in
terms
of
we
didn't
anticipate
this.
We
didn't
work,
you
know
and
we've
adjusted
and
if
we
need
to
move
office
location
or
we
need
to
re-design
a
fit
up,
then
we're
going
to
do
it.
We
want
we're
going
to
make
this
a
superior
model.
It
will
be
when
it's
finished,
I'm
confident.
E
Well,
and
thank
you
all-
I
mean
you
all
made
it
stronger
with
your
comments
and
you
really
have
and
your
thoughts.
A
One
one
final
comment
to
now
be
quiet,
and
I
know
we
have
some
other
questions.
Vision
is
scheduled
for
when
next
year,
2024
25.
A
B
F
Ksp
has
decided
to
to
follow
our
regional
model.
They
feel
that's
most
efficient
because
they
can
pool
their
resources
into
one
location
and
what
they've
explained
to
us
is
they
had
so
many
examiners
driving
from
county
to
county
all
the
time
that
they
were
losing
an
effective
amount
of
their
day,
just
due
to
travel
that
some
smaller
counties
would
get
tuesday
from
9
to
11,
and
you
wouldn't
get
anything
until
next
week.
This
way.
F
B
B
Prior
to
coming
here
I
got
the
factual
data
for
my
county
alone
and
you
all
put
the
regional
office
in
bell
county,
which
is
32
miles
from
the
center
of
my
town,
and
I
hate
to
tell
you
that
I
live
in
one
of
those
areas
where
people
can
drive
a
hundred
miles
now
to
go
to
bell
county
and
the
statistics
that
they
sent
me
I'll.
Read
them
to
you
review
the
testing
numbers
in
harlan
county
over
the
three
months
reveals
because
they
had
a
local
person
that
lives
in
harlan.
B
B
B
F
F
We
continue
to
evaluate
our
needs
across
the
state
and
if
we
decide
that
a
new
regional
office
needs
to
be
established
and
if
it's
within
the
budget,
we'll
always
consider
that
some
of
the
things
that
we
have
to
look
at
is
you
know
the
size
of
the
community,
the
amount
of
people
and
traffic
that
come
to
the
community
or
go
out
of
the
community
for
for
it.
So
we
don't
set
up
a
regional
office
for
an
individual
county.
We
set
them
up
to
represent
an
entire
region.
B
F
B
A
A
Have
they
had
to
do
it
twice
my
last
meeting
with
them
they
and
they're
gonna,
be
here
morgan
september
or
october,
okay
and
we'll
have
them
in
in
this
committee
too,
hopefully,
in
september,
to
to
discuss,
you
know,
progress
that
they're
making
one
of
their
one
of
the
handicaps
that
they
had
and
and
representative
fugit
worked
with
me
and
helped
me
on
this
to
they
were
very
short
of
staff
and
they
needed
they
needed
an
additional
50
people
to
do.
A
Testing
to
you
know,
adequately
cover
the
area
and
so
out
of
the
transportation
budget
we
did
appropriate.
I
think
it's
four
million
and
each
year
for
them
for
the
state
police
to
hire
additional
staff
so
once
they
they
need
some
time
to
get
their
staff
up
and
going,
and
we
will
have
conversations
I've.
I've
asked
for
some
way.
We
could
do
online.
A
Permit
testing
try
to
figure
out
a
way
to
save
one
trip.
I've
we've
talked
about
state
police
following
the
mobile
unit
and
doing
it
in
the
community
when
the
mobile
unit
gets
to
to
because
they're
they're
supposed
to
make
every
community
twice.
I
think
in
a
calendar
year
the
mobile
units
are,
we've
talked
about
that
so
we've
and
and
we've
talked
about
state
police
coming
to
a
community,
and
because
we
have
some,
we
there's.
A
If
you
there
are
honestly
students
that
cannot
make
that
trip
it's
impossible
for
them
to
ever
get
to
a
regional
office
to
do
a
driver's
license.
So
you
know,
we've
talked
to
state
police,
about
on
occasion
to
go
to
the
loca,
to
the
school
and
and
and
have
some
students
that
that,
of
course
you
can,
you
can
probably
only
do
10
in
a
day.
A
I
don't
know
how
many
drivers
tests
you
can
do
in
a
day's
time,
but
we
have
had
those
conversations
and
they've
been
very
receptive
to
to
listen
to
us
and
but
it's
going
to
take
time
and
I
agree
with
it,
and
I
think
they
agree
too,
that
you
know
the
way
we're
doing
it
needs
to
be
changed,
but
one
step
at
a
time.
The
first
step
was
to
get
to
get
them
back
up
to
staff,
so
they
did
have
the
proper
staff,
and
so
we'll
continue
with
that.
B
B
E
Have
been
partnering
with
some
public
libraries
for
the
pop-up
program
and
we
started
out
with
the
commissioner
of
department
of
libraries
and
we
have
had
a
lot
of
interest
by
libraries
and
local
communities
to
host
the
pop-ups.
E
We
also
reach
out
to
the
county
judge
executives.
Some
county
judge
executives
have
steered
us
straight
to
the
libraries,
but
they
we've
been
partnering
with
them
for
that
for
those
purposes.
But
there
are
also
we've
also
partnered
with
libraries
by
asking
them
to
to
hand
out
mail-in
forms,
because
some
people
don't
have
access
to
computers
by
also
perhaps
even
considering
putting
an
icon
on
their
computer,
so
that
someone
can
come
in
and
renew
online
there,
and
so
far,
we've
had
quite
a
few
libraries
reach
out
to
us
and
we're
continuing
to
spread.
E
That
word,
because
I
I
think
that
that's
a
great
service,
especially
in
areas
where
people
do
not
have
that
access,
especially.
F
F
Sitting
out
front
already,
they'll
set
it
down
and
have
a
shortcut
there
on
that
computer
they'll
hand
out
mail-in
forms.
So
really
it's
a
community
effort
and-
and
we
see
community
groups
bringing
people
over
to
a
regional
office.
So
it's
fantastic
to
see
the
creative
results
that
can
come
up
when
people
pull
together
so.
B
E
The
mcgoffin
circuit
clerk
as
an
example.
Obviously
it
varies
across
the
whole
system,
but
the
mcgauffin
circuit
clerk
tells
that
she
designates
still,
even
though
she
no
longer
issues
licenses.
She
goes
and
sits
with
her
laptop
at
her
local
library
in
salyersville,
so
many
nights
a
month
and
helps
the
people
in
her
community
who
want
to
learn
how
to
renew
online
or
whatever.
We
have
all
over
the
spectrum,
with
the
help
that
we're
receiving,
but
they
can.
B
F
B
A
C
C
Stop
the
static
ken
did
you
do
that
to
my
microphone?
Thank
you
for
helping
with
that,
and
I
think
there
was
some
education
on
my
part
too.
They
were
having
issues
with
the
permit
testing,
and
so
you,
let
me
know
about
the
ksp
and
was
able
to
put
my
my
person
that
had
an
issue
in
contact
with
him
that
day.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
that.
I
really
am.
C
I
would
not
be
doing
my
constituency,
I
would
not
be
serving
them
well
if
I
did
not
bring
up
my
concerns
with
hardin
county,
yes,
and
so
I
would
really
like
from
you
all
once
we
get
in
a
better
position
with
that,
if
you
can
just
update
us,
I
think
that's
something
I
get
asked
about
a
lot
a
lot
when
I'm
at
the
dollar,
general
or
walmart,
and
a
lot
of
people
are
still
really
frustrated
about
it,
and
you
know
there's
nothing
that
we
can
do.
C
I
voted
yes
on
it
and
you
know,
after
talking
to
my
circuit
clerk,
you
know
it
was
all
right.
It
was
the
right
move
for
kentucky
a
lot
of
times.
We
don't
like
change,
and
so
it's
going
to
take
us
a
while
to
get
used
to
that,
and
but
I
respect
their
concerns,
and
so
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
hardin
county
is
in
a
good
position
with
that
because
by
where
I'm
from
in
grayson
county,
we
do
have
to
drive
35
minutes
in
order
to
go
to
the
regional
office.
C
And
so
I
do
you
know
whenever
you
all
have
the
opportunity
when
it
gets
in
a
better
position.
I
would
like
updates,
but
I
do
appreciate
just
the
open
relationships
that
we
have,
that
we
can
contact
you
when
constituents
do
have
problems,
and
then
you
all
take
that.
I
think
that's
something
that's
very
important
in
government.
So
thank
you
all
for
that.
Absolutely
thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
That's
brings
up
a
very
good
point.
We've
had
a
lot
of
conversations
about
e-town
hardin
county
being
the
highest
volume
are
serving
the
most.
There
are
more
people
in
that
region
than
than
any
other
region
in
the
state,
and
we've
had
those
conversations
so
hopefully
we'll
see
some
relief.
There
representative
pratt.
B
Thank
you
chairman
question.
I
actually
volunteer
at
the
amen
house
local
locally
the
other
day.
They
were
telling
me
that
scott
county
gave
it
up
which
they
did
not
want
to
and
would
love
to
have
it
back
put
in
a
plug
for
that
but
homeless.
How
do
they
get
an
id
they
used
to
issue
them?
You
took
away
everything
they
could
to
issue
a
homeless
id
or
an
id
you
know
with.
So
how
did
it
do
that
now.
F
We've
seen
a
lot
of
effort
with
community
services,
where
they're
putting
together
vans
that'll
help
people
travel
there.
We
have
partnerships
with
groups
in
lexington,
louisville
and
northern
kentucky
that
benefit
this
program.
So
if
anyone
has
some
concerns,
they
can
point
them
toward
us
and
we'll
be
glad
to
get
into
conversation
with
them
and
see
what
we
can
come
up
with.
B
B
Representative,
heaven
kind
of
covered
a
lot
of
what
I
was
going
to
say,
but
sarah.
I
appreciate
the
work
that
you've
done
and
the
conversations
that
you
and
I
have
had.
You
know
one
of
the
things
that
that
I
think
is
just
the
simplest
thing.
If
someone
wants
to
renew
just
get
on
your
smartphone,
and
you
hear
the
excuse
that
not
everybody
has
you
know
access
computer
access,
but
you
find
very
few
people
across
across
this
commonwealth
who
do
not
have
a
smartphone.
B
They
give
them
away
free
at
intersections
at
walmart.
I
think
they're
named
after
a
former
president,
but
with
that
being
said,
the
the
ease
and
simplicity
of
going
through
this.
I
just
renewed
my
uncles
two
weeks
ago,
three
weeks
a
month
ago,
he
was
walked
in
the
office
and
he
said
well.
I've
got
to
go
to
somerset
to
get
my
driver's
license
and
I
said,
hang
on
a
minute.
B
B
I
was
in
the
office
last
week
and
having
to
make
a
copy
of
my
father's
driver's
license
and
just
happened
to
look
and
I
said
dad,
your
driver's
license
had
expired
and
he
said,
oh
no,
no,
I
said
yeah
he's
so
I
just
logged
on
and
renewed
his
driver's
license
right
then,
and
he'll
get
them
get
them
in
two
weeks
or
ten
days
or
whatever.
B
A
E
Now
I
I
just
want
to
thank,
I
want
to
thank
all
of
you
all
for
your
support
and
help
I've
wanted.
We
we've
had
lots
of
rough
days
and
we've
had
some
good
days,
but
I
really
when
you
think
of
what
you
all
did
last
session.
You
know
upping
the
state
police
budget,
the
non-testing,
if
you're,
oh,
if
you're
expired,
and
when
you
look
at
what
representative
up
church
said
about
the
online
renewal
and
the
mail-in
kentucky
kentuckians
have
more
choices.
E
E
So
that's
all
I
have
to
say
it's
been
a
it's
a
big
we're
not
anywhere
near
that
yet,
but
I
just
you
know
I
want
you
to
know
we're
trying
very
hard
to
serve
all
kentuckians
at
every
level.
A
Well,
thank
you
all
again
for
your
cooperation
and
and
availability
like
I
said
we
will
continue
to
improve
and
and
as
we
go
forward-
and
I
agree
with
with
sarah-
that's
one
of
these
days
that
we'll
have
that
conversation,
that
regional
offices
will
that
won't
be
a
necessity
for
as
many
as
we
have.