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Motion
Viking
second
motion
by
co-chair
Cooks
second
to
buy
Central
Douglas
alsoever
wrote
I
all
opposal
vote
no
Kim.
Please
call
the
row.
C
Aye
motion
carries
we're
going
to
go
just
a
little
bit
out
of
order
this
morning
to
accommodate
an
agency
request.
So
the
first
item
on
the
pool
list
to
be
considers
with
the
Kentucky
Historical
Society
is
number
36
on
the
routine
PSC
green
list.
If
representatives
are
here
and
I
see
that
they
are
please
come
forward
and
invite
yourself
for
the
record.
E
E
First
of
all,
let
me
say
thank
you
for
for
having
us
today.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
talk
about
this
this
project
in
this
contract.
My
name
is
Scott
Alvey
I'm,
the
executive
director
of
the
Kentucky
historical
society
and
I
have
with
me
today:
Karen
Marlow
she's,
our
Director
of
Finance
and
operations,
also
with
us
at
the
Historical
Society.
Well,.
C
Thank
you,
Mr
Alvey,
very
rare,
to
the
people
opportunity
to
be
here.
We
certainly
appreciate
that
and
glad
to
have
you
company,
I.
F
Thank
you.
Well.
That
was
really
my
question
in
that
I
don't
feel
like
we
are
talking
about
Kentucky
history
with
this
I
was
trying
to
get
a
better
handle
on
exactly
the
nature
of
the
contract
and
a
couple
of
things
I'll
just
head
off,
so
you
know
kind
of
what
the
scope
of
my
question
is.
F
F
E
With
this
contract
sure
so
in
one
of
the
aspects
that
that
we
deal
with
quite
quite
often,
topics
from
and
I'm
working
on
a
project
right
now,
looking
at
the
history
of
Kentucky
women
veterans.
So
when
we
do
displays
and
Exhibits
and
things
like
that,
we
have
to
be
considerate
of
what
might
be
triggers
of
trauma
for
for
any
of
the
audience
members
that
might
come
in
again.
E
We
have
several
with
the
with
some
of
the
recent
activities
that
have
gone
on
tornadoes
out
in
in
Western
Kentucky,
the
flooding
in
Eastern
Kentucky.
So
a
couple
of
different
elements
on
how
this
comes
to
that
and
how
those
all
relate.
E
We
had
an
opportunity
to
oh
gosh,
it
would
have
been
June
of
of
2021
received
a
quilt
called
the
mass
Maker's
quilt
with
some
other
other
items
that
went
along
with
it.
One
of
the
items
that
we've
one
of
the
ideas
that
we
thought
about
doing
was
traveling
that
around
the
Commonwealth,
because
the
pandemic
had
more
to
do
with
not
just
dealing
with
the
the
virus
and
but
all
the
different
aspects
that
were
going
along
with
it.
E
So
this
tells
a
really
interesting
story
about
how
people
were
being
resilient
and
how
they
were
coming
together
in
their
communities
to
to
deal
with
this
Global
pandemic
and
all
the
things
that
came
along
with
it.
So
as
that,
as
that
was
about
to
be
traveled
out,
we
thought
it
was
a
high
priority
for
us
to
make
sure
that,
as
it
went
into
those
communities
that
that's
the
staff
that
was
going
to
have
the
exhibit
there
would
be
well
prepared.
E
In
case
somebody
did
have
a
traumatic
response
having
been
experiencing
the
displays
in
the
and
the
exhibit
that
we
were.
We
were
traveling
around
as
far
as
see
as
far
as
museums.
E
Doing
that,
I
would
say
that
that's
actually
one
of
the
things
that
we
do
deal
with
so
much
is
in
not
maybe
directly
providing
traumatic
services
to
people,
but
helping
to
prepare
our
staff
for
recognizing
that,
if
somebody
is
having
a
traumatic
response
within
something
that
we're
doing
how
we
might
best
assist
them
or
even
in
the
development
of
how
we
can
intentionally
make
sure
that
we're
not
building
triggers
into
our
displays
and
our
exhibits.
That
might
create
that
same
traumatic
response.
E
Fortunately,
it
doesn't
happen
very
often,
but
but
I
think
we
do
a
lot
of
training.
I've
done.
Museum
works
now
for
almost
30
years,
and
we
do
a
lot
for
to
just
make
sure
our
Frontline
staff
are
prepared
for,
for
example,
a
child
comes
in
and
has
some
sort
of
experience.
I
did
Science
Museum
work,
so
if
there
was
some
sort
of
experience
that
they
had
at
least
we
knew
to
pause
and
take
a
stop
to
make
sure
that
we
were
addressing
what
they
were
doing
so
I
know
that
was
a
long.
E
F
That
does
sound,
really
cool
I'm,
just
looking
at
the
actual
words
of
the
contract
and
I.
Don't
really
see
that
in
here,
so
either
it's
hidden
in
here
somewhere
or
else
I'm,
not
entirely
sure
that
it
accomplishes
the
goal,
because
I
mean
we
all
have
to
use
what
examples
we
can.
But
it
says
we're
going
to
have
these
two
two-day
trainings
and
day
two
says
you
know
each
participant
is
to
identify
at
least
one
thing.
They
need
to
engage
in
to
manage
stress,
and
so
it
sounded
more
like
a
staff,
stressful.
E
Here,
gotcha
gotcha
and
I
apologize
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
review
that
it
is
it's
a
it's.
We
did
day
one
of
the
training
and
it
was
actually
a
self
look
at
it
so
that
we
can
help
identify.
So
people
that
we
have
in
our
staff
would
see
these
examples
in
themselves
day.
E
Two
of
it
is
somewhat
of
a
in
more
simple
to
train
the
trainer,
so
they're,
currently
working
on
what
those
ideas
and
what
those
elements
are,
so
that
we
would
be
prepared
to
go
out
and
talk
to
staff
or
to
at
least
help
staff
provide
at
least
a
basic
training
when
this
exhibit
travels
into
other
communities,
but
then
also
just
as
a
as
a
piece
of
good,
just
Museum
function,
I
guess
to
be
able
to
help
other
museums
with
with
this
kind
of
training,
so
yeah
I
apologize
that
it's
not
in
there.
E
One
thing
I
would
also
want
to
point
out
that
I,
don't
know
is
in
the
material
that
you
all
have
I
apologize,
I
found
out
about
the
the
hearing
late
yesterday,
and
so
this
is
also
a
federally
funded
grant
that
we're
that
we're
working
through.
So
we
do
have
a
match
to
that.
I
don't
know
if
that
is
in
the
material
that
you
have
and
I'll.
Let
Karen
speak
more
to
that
end.
That
are
green.
H
There
you
go,
the
PSC
actually
is
one
piece
of
of
a
Federal
Grant
from
The
imls
Institute.
H
It
is
it's
one
piece
of
a
grant
that
was
applied
for
and
we
obtained
it's
a
around
76,
000
Grant,
and
so
this
this
trauma,
training
and
and
train
the
trainer
for
our
staff
that
will
be
going
into
community
outreach
for
other
institutions
that
decide
to
show
this
quilt
and
and
other
other
projects
we
have
out
in
the
community
is
to
is
to
help
and
imls
recognized
that
train.
The
trainer
was
important
for
Museum
services,
and
so
we
put
the
PSC
through.
F
H
F
And
the
match
is
not
being
calculated
on
this
part
of
the
grant.
No
correct
that
is
correct.
I
appreciate
your
answers.
I
don't
know
Mr
chairman
if
I
even
know
what
to
say,
because
sometimes
these
things
I
know
it's
hard
to
get
real
life
onto
paper.
But
it
also
concerns
me
when
we
have
all
kinds
of
activity
going
on
that
I,
don't
think
is
really
in
the
paper
and
I.
Don't
know
how
to
really
make
those
match.
But
I
appreciate
the
information.
I
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
Mr,
Albion,
I'm
I'm,
just
a
simple
guy
and
I've
listened
to
what
what
you've
said.
Could
you
help
the
people
of
the
Commonwealth
understand
a
little
bit
better,
how
you
come
up
with
the
numbers
for
these
two
days,
the
cost
I'm.
H
We
have
a,
we
have
a
breakdown
of
her
cost
representation.
There
is
a
part
of
it
that
is
I,
think
I.
Think
part
of
it
is
her
travel.
H
She
is
from
out
of
state
the
training,
the
company
that
is
doing
this
for
us
part
of
its
travel
part
of
its
supplies
each
day
is
a
customized
program
for
museums
and
our
staff,
the
staff
that
is
expected
to
go
out
and
do
community
outreach,
so
there's
a
training
cost
each
day.
I
think
it's
got
it
right
here.
Somewhere
there
was
a
cost
each
day
and
there
is
a
travel
allotment
and
then
there
is
supply
list.
H
I
think
here
we
go,
we
have
11,
we
have
eleven
thousand
dollars
per
day,
2500
for
planning
time
in
meetings
which
there
were
several
meetings
and
then
travel,
cost
and
supplies
is
three
thousand,
but.
E
Then
correct
me:
if
I'm
wrong,
the
training
per
day
costs
included
all
the
training
for
a
customized
Training
Center
South
West
Point,
to
help
make
sure
it
was
modified
towards
Museum
type
practices.
C
C
F
Mr
chairman
I'm,
even
more
concerned
now
that
I
just
heard
that
we're
getting
it
tailored
to
state
government
and
to
museums,
I'm,
afraid
or
concerned
about
the
quality
of
the
vendor.
In
fact,
if
they're
not
used
to
working
in
a
public
service
and
they're
out
of
state
I
mean
all
these
things
kind
of
Stack
up
to
kind
of
a
three
strikes,
so
I'm
gonna
vote
no
right
now.
A
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C
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C
If
you
look
at
the
dates
on
the
contract,
it
says
July
1
2022,
so
the
first
question
I
had
was:
why
isn't
this
a
retroactive
approval
and
I've
had
a
lot
of
correspondence
with
with
these
folks
over
the
last
couple
of
days,
trying
to
explain
what's
going
on
and
quite
truthfully,
I
think
the
more
we
tried
to
figure
out
what's
going
on
the
more
muddled
it
got
so
I've
asked
these
people
to
come
here
and
try
to
explain
what's
going
on
as
to
why
there
was
not
a
retroactive
approval
and
quite
truthfully
why
this
may
just
be
an
administrative
issue,
but
why
this
wasn't
presented
as
a
PSC
Amendment?
J
I
think
that,
as
Tammy
may
have
mentioned
in
some
of
the
correspondence
we
actually
would
propose
to
remove
it
from
the
list
of
new
pontus,
because
I
think
it
was
inadvertently
issued
as
a
new
pontoon,
but
one
of
our
staff
members.
It
should
have
been
an
amendment
to
the
existing
Pond,
two,
which
I
think
is
Pawn
2025
22
4546,
which
was
effective,
July
1..
So
we
are
we're
just
changing
a
little
bit
of
the
language
in
the
contract.
There's
no
modification
to
the
time.
J
There's
no
modification
to
the
dates,
just
changing
some
of
the
language
in
the
contract
and
it
should
have
been
issued
as
an
amendment
so
procedurally
going
forward.
You
know
I
would
defer
to
you
I,
don't
know
whether
we
can
pull
it
in
this
meeting
and
have
you
consider
it
as
an
amendment
or
whether
we
just
need
to
pull
it.
C
Well
again,
as
we
tried
to
figure
out
what's
going
on
with
this,
the
story
got
a
little
bit
deeper
and
I've
got
a
couple.
Other
questions
for
you
absolutely
I
understand
and
what
we're
asking
for
is
the
judicial
funds
will
be
used
for
what
purpose.
J
The
additional
well
there's
no
additional
funds
being
asked
for
there's
forty
thousand
dollars.
That's
already
on
the
contract
and
those
forty
thousand
dollars
are,
are
going
to
be
used
for
these
services
and
what
it
is
is
our
bond
Council
will
typically
handle
judicial
Center
projects
at
their
Inception
and
setting
up
the
bonds.
We
also
have
some
services
on
the
bond
Council
contract
for
them
to
take
care
of
specific
things
that
come
up
at
the
end
of
the
bond
at
the
end
of
The
Debt
Service,
like
Arbitrage
rebate,
calculations
or
those
sort
of
things.
J
That
is
because
these
projects
have
never
been
transferred
to
the
state
of
Kentucky
to
the
Commonwealth
of
Kentucky
before,
but
we
had
our
first
project
this
year
in
Hardin
County,
where,
where
the
county
took
a
vote,
passed
an
ordinance
and
said
that
they
would
not
accept
ownership
of
the
project,
which
was
how
the
original
Bond
documents
were
written.
And
so
we
needed
to
ask
our
bond
Council
to
go
back
and
redo
some
of
those
documents
so
that
it
would
then
transfer
to
the
administrative
office
of
the
courts
as
opposed
to
the
County
Government.
J
C
J
C
J
J
The
this
behind
it
is
that
the
county
didn't
actually
issue
the
bonds
20
years
ago,
when
the
bonds
were
issued.
It
was
issued
by
the
city
and
the
City
of
Elizabethtown
had
never
expected
to
take
ownership
of
the
property
and
I
think
it's
a
local
issue
is
the
best
that
I
can
understand
that
the
county
does
not
now
want
to
accept
the
ownership,
because
it's
been
owned
by
the
public
properties,
Corporation
of
the
city
of
Elizabethtown
I
think
there's
some
HVAC
issues
in
the
building.
J
Right
now
that
we
are
addressing
that
the
AOC
has
gone
in.
We've
received
an
appropriation
in
the
last
legislative
session
to
address
the
HVAC
issues
and
so
we're
working
on
those.
Now
we've
got
a
temporary
Chiller,
that's
been
put
in
so
that
they
were
made
a
little
more
comfortable
during
the
summer,
but
I
think
that
the
county
probably
saw
some
of
the
issues
that
the
building
was
having,
while
the
city
owned
it
and
was
a
little
leery
of
taking
it
over.
But
that's
you
know,
conjecture.
C
J
Once
the
county
takes
ownership
of
the
building
KRS
chapter
26a
requires
the
AOC
to
pay
the
county
for
all
of
the
operating
costs
of
the
portion
of
the
building
that
the
state
occupies,
and
in
most
of
these
building
it's
going
to
be
100.
So
we're
required
to
pay
all
the
operating
costs,
the
insurance
all
of
the
janitorial,
the
maintenance,
the
utilities
all
of
the
operating
costs
and
then
for
buildings
that
were
authorized
prior
to
the
year
2000.
There
is
a
two
percent
use
allowance
that
is
paid
to
the
county.
C
J
So
the
operating
costs
we
have
Auditors
that
audit
facilities
annually
and
they
determine
what
the
annual
costs
are
and
then
we
pay
in
advance
for
the
next
fiscal
year,
based
on
what
the
audit
shows
that
expenses
were
for
the
current
fiscal
year.
C
J
J
We
do
assessments
of
all
of
the
facilities
on
a
periodic
basis,
so
what
we
would
do
as
an
assessment
we'd
make
a
recommendation
to
the
general
assembly
about
which
projects
would
need
to
be
completed
for
that
biennium.
When,
along
with
our
budget
request
and
and
then
you
know,
the
general
assembly
would
authorize
in
our
budget
bill
which
projects
to
be
completed
for
that
biennium.
J
So
the
the
goal
is
for
these
projects
to
last,
you
know,
decades
and
decades,
and
then,
when
they're
ready
to
be
replaced,
you
know
for
us
to
have
a
new
project
and
many
counties,
I
think
are
choosing
to
use
the
location
where
their
existing
courthouse
is.
You
know
to
build
a
new
project
and
some
you
know,
have
other
plans
for
that
building
and
if
they
have
other
plans
for
that
building,
then
we
go
somewhere
else.
So.
C
J
Because
we're
amending
the
language
of
the
contract
to
include
the
new
deeds
and
and
lean
releases
that
are
required
at
the
end
of
the
project.
We
wanted
to
be
clear
for
an
audit
Trail
for
our
folks
that
those
things
are
things
that
can
be
paid
under
this
contract,
so
we
just
added
that
to
the
language
of
the
contract
and
when
we
do
that
it
pushes
it
through
as
a
modification
or
it
should
have
pushed
it
through
as
a
modification
in
emars.
In
this
case,
we
inadvertently
entered
a
new
pontoon
number.
G
C
But
it
also
looks
like
it's
an
additional
services
that
my
original
thinking
was.
There
should
have
been
a
separate
RFP
for
this
if
it's
an
extension
services,
but
you
say
it's
it's
not
so
very
convoluted
situation
and
I
always
tell
people
when
they
come
for.
This
committee
should
be
thankful
because
we're
like
the
Good
Housekeeping
seal
of
approval.
Once
we
say
it's
good,
it's
good,
but
this
one
is
a
little
bit
troubling,
even
those
forty
thousand
dollars,
but
the
bureaucracy
around.
It
is
not
as
straightforward
as
it
should
be.
So
I
just
caution.
H
J
C
K
C
Aye
motion
carries
and
thank
you
for
being
this
here
this
morning
and
thank
you
for
the
clarification
additional
information.
It's
always
interesting.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
have
a
blessed
day.
Thank
you
next
time,
I'm
on
the
pool
list
is
with
department
for
Workforce
investment
is
number
four
on
the
PSC
green
list
and
50
on
the
Moa
pink
list.
If
representatives
are
here,
please
come
forward,
then
fight
yourself
for
the
record.
C
C
Specific
to
number
four,
it's
contract
for
260
000.
and
it's
to
provide
funds
to
design
Implement
an
external
evaluation
of
the
re-employment
services,
Eligibility
Assessment
program.
That's
a
lot
of
words
for
whatever
you're
trying
to
accomplish
here.
But
can
you
explain
that
program
just
a
little
bit
sure.
L
There
are
four
purposes
to
this
program:
reduce
your
duration
through
improve
improved
employment
outcomes,
strengthen
uim
program,
Integrity,
promote
alignment
with
the
vision
of
the
workforce,
Innovation
Opportunity
Act
and
establish
receam
as
an
entry
point
to
other
Workforce
system,
Partners
like
the
office
of
vacation,
Rehabilitation,
adult
education.
Things
like
that.
The
state
participation
in
this
program
is
voluntary.
However,
I
think
it's
something
like
47
states
do
participate
in
it,
including
Kentucky.
L
The
services
provided
include
in-person
meetings
at
the
Kentucky
Career
Centers,
with
staff
eligibility
assessments
as
well
as
re-employment
Services,
whether
that's
resume
Assistance
or
job
search
assistance,
things
of
that
nature.
Pursuant
to
a
training
and
employment
guidance
letter,
we
call
those
teagles.
This
one
is
number
619
in
accordance
with
the
statutory
Provisions
for
Reese
contained
in
the
Social
Security
Act
states
are
expected
to
begin
conducting
evaluations
of
recent
interventions
and
Service
delivery
strategies
to
support
building
new
evidence
on
effective
Reese
interventions
that
that
all
states
can
rely
on
in
designing
and
implementing
this
program.
L
In
fact,
section
306
C
of
the
Social
Security
Act,
requires
states
to
use
risi
Grant
funds
for
evidence-based
interventions
and
evaluations.
States
must
begin
conducting
rigorous
studies
to
produce
new
evidence
that
helps
determine
the
success
of
the
program
and
that's
where
this
contract
comes
in.
This
contract
was
awarded
pursuant
to
an
RFP.
It
was
seeking
a
vendor
to
conduct
those
kinds
of
studies
that
we
just
talked
about.
There
was
one
solicitation
received.
It
was
from
the
company,
the
policy
and
research
Group,
which
is
of
New
Orleans
Louisiana.
L
C
Appreciate
that
clarification,
yes
upon
the
exhaustion
of
these
federal
funds,
what
happens
then?
Well.
L
It's
we
have
to
continue
if
we
want
to
continue
with
the
program.
I
think
if
there's
you
apply
to
continue
with
the
program,
show
that
you've
done
your
annual
reporting,
as
well
as
these
evidence-based
evaluations,
and
then
the
federal
government
will
approve
or
or
deny
continuation
of,
the
the
state's
participation
program.
All.
C
C
Aye
motion
carries
moving
on
to
the
Moa
agreement
list
number
50.
and
assuming
you
folks,
a
little
bit
Clairvoyant
and
you
know
why
I
asked
you
here
and
said:
you're
ready
to
retroactive
approval
request.
So
can
you
explain
that.
L
Sure
this
agreement
was
the
campaigning
agreement
to
one
that
was
on
on
the
pulled
list
last
month
that
provides
the
we
owe
of
funds
to
the
local
areas.
It
received
approval
from
the
finance
cabinet
on
September
the
morning
of
September
1st,
so
we
just
missed
being
on
last
month's
agenda.
We've
talked
about
this
for
the
past
couple
months.
C
D
C
Aye
motion
carries
and
appreciate
you
being
here
this
morning,
but
I'm
looking
forward
to
not
seeing
you
next
time.
Thank
you
all
very
much.
Thank
you
appreciate
it
next
time
on
the
pool
list
with
Department
of
Education
and
note
that
the
Department
of
Education
is
a
question
deferral
on
number
56
on
the
routine
MOA
pink
list
and
number
120
and
121
on
the
Moa
Amendment
10
list.
So
do
we
have
a
motion
to
defer
these
three
items,
just
motioned
by
co-chair
cook
seconded
by
representative
bowling
all
the
motion
about
I
all
opposed
vote?
C
Aye
motion
carries
with
that.
Our
guests
are
at
the
table.
Please
identify
yourself
for
the
record
and
we
will
proceed.
O
C
Good
morning,
I
appreciate
you
being
here
we're
starting
a
discussion
of
contract
number
five
on
the
PC
routine
green
list
and
I
request
that
this
be
pulled,
and
this
is
regarding
a
contract
with
the
Hands-On,
the
therapy
POC
to
provide
speech
therapy
services.
But
the
note
is
Not,
Practical
or
feasible,
but
bid
document
and
I
read
the
explanation
and
I.
Don't
know
that
it's
as
clear
as
it
could
be
should
be.
So
that's
why
I
request
this
contract
being
pulled.
C
O
There
was
not
right:
I
can
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
If
it
would
be
helpful,
we
actually
reached
out
to
a
couple
of
service
providers
because,
as
you
noticed,
we
we
are
in
an
emergency
situation,
because
we
have
students
who
are
required
to
have
these
speech
and
language
Services
as
part
of
their
individual
education
programs,
and
we
had
a
speech.
O
Language
path
resigned
immediately
before
the
start
of
school
I
think
around
August,
2nd
and
school
started
back
August
15th,
so
we
knew
we
were
going
to
have
students
who,
frankly,
probably
already
been
disproportionately
impacted
by
the
pandemic,
facing
a
situation
where
there
we
weren't
able
to
provide
speech
and
language
services,
and
so
you
know,
obviously
one
goal
would
be
to
comply
with
the
law.
The
second
goal,
and
probably
the
most
important,
is
that
you
know
our
students
get
the
services
to
which
they're
entitled
to
so.
P
O
Of
which
didn't
have
any
speech
therapist
two
service
hour
IPS,
so
we
move
forward
with
the
service
provider
that
did
have
boom
speech
pathologists
so
that
we
could
get
services
to
our
students
on
the
ground
as
quickly
and
as
effectively
as
possible
in
them.
Also
as
a
side
note,
we
we
had
posted
this
position.
O
Actually,
we've
excuse
me
kept
it
up
ongoing
since
I
think
July,
when
we
first
found
out
that
our
SLP
was
resigning
and
we've
not
had
any
viable
candidates,
there's
a
there's,
a
state
in
National
shortage
they're
in
the
like.
If
you
look
in
the
the
Kentucky
employment
services,
there's
a
hundred
in
in
the
120
days,
there's
been
29
positions,
I'm
remaining
available
for
speech,
language
paths,
I
mean
there's
it's
just
a
critical
shortage
area,
not
only
in
Kentucky
but
Nationwide.
O
C
O
O
Question
we
have
worked
with
them
before
and
honestly
I
think
those
two
were
the
only
ones
that
we
really
were
aware
of.
We
have
worked
with
the
Hands-On
therapy
for
a
number
of
years
at
the
Kentucky
school,
for
the
deaf
we've
had
a
contract
with
them
to
provide
other
related
services
and
they've
been
exceptional
and
to
work
with
their
students.
Unless
you
know
our
students
at
ksb
and
KSD
often
are
not
have
have
multiple
disabilities
and
are
a
unique
population,
so
they
and
they
have
done
fantastic
at
KSD.
O
We
had
actually
used
Hands-On
therapy
at
ksb
for
a
short
time,
while
our
a
year
or
so
ago,
when
our
SLP
speech
language
path,
excuse
me,
I'm
sorry
went
on
maternity
leave
and
they
they
were
phenomenal
with
their
students,
and
so
we
reached
out
to
the
two
service
entities
that
we
were
aware
of
and
the
one
didn't
have
anybody
to
perform.
The
services
and
Hands-On
therapy
did
so
we
engaged
in
that
contract.
It
is
also
important
for
me
to
note
that
we
have
a
the
position
is
still
open.
O
It's
it's
going
to
be
open
until
it's
filled.
We
are
actively
working
to
try
to
get
that
position
posted
or
to
get
it
filled,
but
we're
really
just
doing
all
that
we
can.
But
you
know,
most
importantly,
we
didn't
want
our
students
to
be
there
without
any
services
and
and
at
times
the
RFP
process,
as
you
know,
can
take
many
many
months
and
we
honestly
didn't
have
months
because
our
students,
you
couldn't
have
been
in
a
situation
where
we
had
nobody
to
provide
any
speech
language
Services.
C
I
understand
the
urgency
situation,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
there
shouldn't
be
a
stronger
process
in
place
to
try
to
identify
other
vendors
to
make
sure
that
we're
getting
the
most
value
for
the
dollar
being
expended
and
getting
if
we're
relying
on
just
one
person,
say
well
I
work
with
these
two
folks
support
with
groups
of
four
I'm,
not
sure
that's
a
category
endorsement
of
the
contract,
but
again
I'm
not
a
opposed
the
contract
I
just
not
comfortable
with
the
process
but
Central
South
Forth.
You
have
a
question
comment
regarding
this.
G
O
It's
it's
difficult
to
compare
the
two
and
the
reason.
Why
is
because,
with
a
full-time
provider,
we
would
provide
not
only
the
salary
but
also
the
French
benefits.
You
know,
in
the
same
manner,
that
a
local
District
would,
whereas
the
individuals
that
perform
the
services
as
part
of
this
contract
are
paid
hourly,
so
we
would
provide
you
know
them
that
the
hourly
rate,
whereas
and
that
could
be
you
know
it
could
be
much
more
if
they
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
the
ground.
O
It
could
be
much
less
if
they
spend
fewer
hours
on
the
ground,
whereas
with
a
with
a
full-time
employee,
we're
going
to
have
a
set
salary
rather
than
an
hourly.
G
Obviously
and
I
know
that
I'm
the
particular
situation
with
this
pathologist
a
little
bit
different
here,
but
you
would
know
what
your
expectations
are
as
far
as
time
spent
with
the
students,
and
so
you
can
and
while
the
fringe
benefits
and
salary
is
different,
you
still
would
know
if
the
129
000
is
comparable
to
that
of
the
previous
salary.
With
the
fringe
benefits
put
in
place,
I
mean
I'm,
assuming
it's
probably
within
the
same
area.
It
was
one
more
than
the
other.
Where
are
we
at
the.
O
Contract
would
probably
be
a
little
more
than
than
a
person
if
you
look
just
at
salary,
but
if
you
calculate
it
in
Fringe,
you
know
all
the
retirement
and
health
and
everything
I
would
say
it's
pretty
comparable.
Okay
Karen
may
want
to
weigh
in
on
that
from
the
physical
aspect,
but
you
know
in
The
Limited
knowledge
that
I
have
I,
think
it's
I
think
it's
relatively
comparable
I
would
agree.
Yes,.
F
Thank
you,
I
I
thought
we
were
heading
toward
the
comparison
to
the
contract
that
it
sounds
like
we
had
last
year,
while
the
others
person
was
on
maternity
leave
and
I
wanted
to
get
a
better
handle
on.
Was
that
contract
also
a
not
practical
freezable
to
bid,
or
was
it
rfp'd
because
we
knew
the
person
was
you
know
for
nine
months
we
know
they're
going
to
be
going
on
maternity
leave.
O
F
Just
I
just
don't
remember:
okay!
Well,
here's
just
a
suggestion
on
how
we
Rectify
these
issues
in
the
future.
F
If
we
have
one
speech,
language
pathologist,
who
we
know
is
going
to
go
on
maternity
leave
and
then
in
another
case
we
have
one
other
one
at
this
other
school
of
course,
they're
both
contracted
through
the
Department
of
Education,
so
I'm
not
100
sure
why
this
can't
just
be
an
amendment
if
we
have
a
long-standing
RFP
with
these
people
on
hold
like
we
have
all
kinds
of
contracts
that
come
through
here
that
say
up
to
an
amount.
You
know
we
have
a
contracted
speechling
with
past
pathologist
RFP
for
backup
Services.
F
When
we
have
somebody
who
gets
sick
goes
on
vacation,
you
know
whatever
it
is
because
we
don't
have
staff
to
cover
that
you
know.
Contract
could
be
up
to
thirty
thousand
dollars
for
the
year
or
something.
And
then,
if
somebody
gets
into
a
situation
where
it's
like
a
nine
month,
deal
why
we
can
come
in
here
pretty
quickly,
I
think
in
a
month's
time
get
an
amendment
put
together
on
the
PSE
limit
list
and
say
well
we're
going
to
need
the
services
a
lot
longer.
F
I
feel
like
that
would
go
through
all
of
the
RFP
process.
You'd
have
all
the
boxes
checked,
we
would
have
compared
all
the
speech
language
Pathologists
providers
all
over
the
state
instead
of
this
quick,
knee-jerk
type
situation,
particularly
since
we
had
this
very
situation,
not
this,
but
very
similar
situation
just
last
year.
We
need
to
maybe
be
thinking
about
those
kind
of
contingency
plans
and
being
able
to
still
check
all
the
legal
boxes.
Thank
you.
B
Senator
Southworth,
if
I
could
respond
to
that,
and
we
have
done
an
RFP
for
Hands-On
therapy.
That
RFP
was
for
the
Kentucky
school
for
the
deaf.
So
when
the
need
arose
at
ksb,
then
we
did
not
have
an
that.
Rfp
was
written
specifically
for
KSD.
So
that
is
the
reason
that
we
want.
The
not
practical
to
bid
was
to
get
the
the
services,
because
we
we
weren't
aware
the
speech
path
was
going
to
leave
with
the
maternity
leave.
B
F
F
Well,
thank
you
that
did
help
answer
some
of
my
question
that
I
had
earlier,
but
obviously
thinking
outside
the
box
I'm
all
about
it,
but
usually
in
public
service.
There's
a
box.
You
do
have
to
stay
in
so
perhaps
now
that
we've
been
through
this,
we
can
all
prepare
for
the
future
and
have
when
we
have
everything
funneling
into
one
person
and
one
person
can
let
us
down.
We
do
need
to
have
contingency
plans.
Perhaps
we
have
a
contingency
plan
now.
D
Comment
and
an
emotion
just
with
Karen's
explanation
there
about
already
having
the
RFP
process
in
at
one
place
and
then
having
to
quickly
adapt
and
Pull
It
in
the
other
place.
I
I
find
that
a
pretty
logical
and
Common
Sense
explanation
of
why
that
happened.
Therefore,
I
moved
the
proof.
C
C
Aye
motion
carries
moving
on
to
number
772
on
the
routine
MOA
pink
list
and
I
pulled
this
contract
as
well,
really
nothing
against
Caldwell
County.
A
great
bunch
of
folks
got
a
lot
of
friends
in
Caldwell
County,
but
it's
just
representative
of
these.
These
series
of
contracts
we
have
here
and
I
thought
just
best
pull
one
and
let
you
explain
it
then
didn't
have
to
pull
all
of
them,
but
we're
talking
about
federal
funds.
C
230
thousand
dollars
provide
funds
as
sub
grants
to
local
school
districts
to
assist
them
in
their
participating
Partners
in
developing
and
implementing
a
comprehensive
and
integrated
literacy
plan
from
birth
through
grade
12..
And
my
first
question
is:
is
this
consistent
and
aligned
with
Senate
Bill
9,
which
we
passed
this
last
session.
Q
Good
morning,
everyone,
yes,
it
would
be
in
line
with
Senate
Bill
9
Senate
Bill
9
specifically
starts
providing
support
at
K
through
five
and
k-3
within
the
legislation,
and
so
the
grant
would
support
the
local
districts
in
determining
how
they
would
like
to
use
the
16
of
the
funding
that
they
are
receiving
and
for
Caldwell
County,
specifically
based
on
their
local
decision.
They
are
utilizing
those
funds,
as
it
is
established
in
the
contract,
for
some
of
the
preschool
supports
and
Dana.
You
may
want
to
speak
specifically
to
how
Caldwell
County
is
utilizing
those
funds.
Q
Thank
you,
I,
clicked
it.
It
just
did
not
go
off
good
morning.
All
of
our
districts
in
the
Kentucky
comprehensive
literacy
Grant
are
focused
on
literacy
birth
through
grade
12,
but
they
work
with
collaborate
with
other
state
agencies
such
as
Head,
Start,
save
the
children,
governor's
office
of
Early
Childhood
hands
and
what
they
do
is
there.
They
promote
literacy
and
they
can
use
the
funds
from
the
grant
to
promote
literacy
within
their
district
and
collaborate
with
those
other
agencies
in
Kentucky.
Q
They
have
purchased
the
tailed
for,
or
language
screening,
for
the
pre
birth
to
age
five.
They
look
at
four-year-olds
oral
language
to
try
to
make
sure
teachers
understand
where
their
four-year-olds
are
and
how
they
can
support
them.
Increasing
that
oral
language,
because
we
know
that
that
will
help
to
lay
a
better
foundation
for
reading
for
those
kiddos.
They
provide
literacy
kits
for
the
families.
They
provide
the
matching
funds
for
Imagination
Library.
Q
They
do
baby
showers
for
the
districts
for
Caldwell,
specifically
to
provide
information
for
parents
about
how
important
it
is
to
read
to
children
and
talk
to
children
and
provide
books
for
them
to
use
with
their
their
families.
They
also
provide
materials
for
the
families
to
use
to
increase
phonemic
awareness
letter
identification
alphabet
sounds
those
type
things
in
that
birth
to
age.
Five
range.
Q
C
C
Q
Absolutely
they
have
to
work
with
birth
they
have
to.
They
have
to
have
a
plan
set
in
place
to
increase
literacy
Effectiveness
in
their
teachers
and
to
increase
the
and
to
get
a
plan,
so
they
have
to
all
create
a
literacy
plan
that
outlines
how
they're
going
to
be
spending
the
funds
to
support
literacy.
Q
But
this
grant
foremost
is
a
professional
learning
Grant
and
it
is
for
professional
learning
for
all
teachers,
not
just
teachers
of
reading,
but
all
teachers
in
the
school
to
implement
literacy
strategies
to
make
our
students
stronger
at
reading
and
writing.
Q
It
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that.
My
my
thought
would
be
that
people
would
want
that
everybody
would
so
I'm.
It
does
require
quite
a
bit
of
professional
learning.
We
used
implementation
science
when
I'm
designing
this
and
implementation.
Science
says
that
one
and
done
professional
learning
is
not
effective
in
changing
teacher
practice
that
it
takes
extensive
professional
learning
over
an
extended
period
of
time
to
actually
change
teacher
practice
and
that's
what
this
grant
is
built
around.
Q
No,
it
goes,
It
goes
through
the
the
normal
process
that
KDE,
where
we
have
people
that
are
outside
that
are
trained
to
score
those,
and
then
the
highest
scores
are
awarded
the
grant.
B
At
KDE
we
utilize
what
we
call
the
RFA
process.
We
try
to
mirror
the
RFP
process
as
closely
as
we
can
and
we've
created
this
so
that
school
districts
can
apply
for
competitive
grants
that
we
receive
either
through
from
the
general
assembly
or
from
federal
grants.
So
so
we
use
what
we
call
the
RFA
request
for
application.
My
my
division
works
with
the
program
office
to
create
the
application.
There's
a
scoring
rubric.
That's
included,
there's
of
course,
budget
information
that
needs
to
be
included
and
then
subject
matter.
C
Well,
I
go
back
to
Senate
Bill
9
again,
you
know,
I
thought
part
of
the
intent
of
passing
this
particular
legislation
was
to
kind
of
level
the
playing
field
for
all
of
our
school
systems.
We
seem
to
have
a
very
fragmented
approach
to
teaching
literacy,
and
this
was
supposed
to
consolidate
all
those
functions
and
come
up
with
demonstrated
best
practices
for
every
school
system
they
would
be
eligible
to.
Q
Senator
Meredith
I
would
say
that
this
Kentucky
comprehensive
literacy
Grant
said
this
is
in
year
three,
so
it
has
been
an
opportunity
for
districts
across
our
state
prior
to
the
passing
of
Senate
bill,
nine
prior
to
that
becoming
effective
in
law.
So
we
are
now
providing
opportunities
for
people
to
apply
for
for
this
Federal
grant,
but
also
the
re
to
achieve
Grant,
which
is
part
of
Senate
bill,
nine
that
is
in
place.
C
C
Well
again,
it
kind
of
just
my
concern.
It
looks
like
we've
got
a
lot
of
different
paths
to
try
to
accomplish
so
one
Central
goal
in
rather
than
be
centralized
in
our
thinking
and
our
philosophy
to
address
this
issue.
This
is
a
little
bit
problematic
for
me,
but
let
me
Ponder
on
it.
Senator
Douglas.
You
have
a
question
comment
regarding
this.
I
I
do
Mr
chairman,
thank
you
if
I
may,
I'll
ask
them
sequentially
and
then
and
I'm
sure
I'm
sure
our
panel
can
can
answer
them.
My
first
question
is
this
I'm
concerned
with
our
schools,
or
at
least
the
teaching
in
our
schools
becoming
more
and
more
fragmented.
I
I
My
question
number
two
is
a
concern
that
I
continually
have
again
I
I
talk
about
having
having
been
involved
with
teachers
for
38
years.
I
I
Q
I'm
gonna
ask
Dana
to
speak
to
the
the
modern
Turing
feature
first
question,
but
to
address
the
second
question,
we
are
fortunately
having
extensive
conversations
with
educator,
prep
programs
related
to
Senate
bill
nine.
There
is
a
section
that
requires
that
we
align
the
instruction
for
pre-service
Teacher
candidates
around
those
students.
I
I
apologize
for
interrupting
this.
The
problem
didn't
start
with
Senate
bill.
Nine
we've
had
we've
had
issues
with
education
for
a
long
time,
so
I'm
not
really
relating
to
Senate
bill
nine.
We
seem
to
continually
come
back
and
talk
about
our
education
system,
whether
it
is
people
who
are
teaching
in
the
education
system
or
whether
it
is
the
legislative
body,
the
general
assembly
or
whether
it
is
parents
we're
trying
to
find
a
way
to
make
our
education
system
more
efficient.
I
In
terms
of
educating
our
kids,
my
question
is
how
much
conversation
is
being
had
between
those
who
are
in
the
field
and
those
who
are
teaching
the
people
in
the
field,
because
it
seems
to
me
at
some
point:
someone
in
the
field
would
say:
it's
not
cutting
it.
What
we're
getting
in
our
colleges
is
not
cutting
it,
or
perhaps
someone
who
is
teaching
or
or
in
colleges,
would
say
or
ask
the
question:
how
are
we
doing?
I
Q
So
to
address
that
I
would
say
there
is
the
the
mandated
training
that
was
connected
to
you,
Senate
Bill,
175
2019,
where
educator
prep
programs
go
through
that
required
training
each
year
around
the
Kentucky
academic
standards.
We
also
bring
them
in
around
the
model
curriculum
framework
and
then
they're
currently
participating
in
partnership
with
the
pilot
program
that
we
have
going
on
around
designing
high
quality
professional
curriculum
as
well
as
we
have
representatives
from
universities
who
are
going
through
the
Statewide
professional
learning
program
under
the
Kentucky
reading
Academy.
F
Mr
chairman
I,
really
was
just
gonna,
try
to
call
out
my
concern
actually
during
our
Senate
bill
nine
discussions
last
year
since
we're
on
that
topic,
the
grant
funding
I
actually
started
to
dig
into
and
realize
like
everything
around
here,
it's
a
big
can
of
worms
and
it
they
all
start
crawling
out.
You
don't
have
time
the
rest
of
the
session
to
finish
it
I'm
quite
concerned
that
grants
and
education
aren't
constitutional
and
I
know.
F
We
need
to
really
be
thinking
about
how
to
get
all
of
our
kids
reading
and
not
having
these
one-off
grants
I
think
to
make
sure
we
actually
have
what
I'd
call
a
common
system
of
a
system
of
common
schools
that
aligns
to
what
the
courts
have
said
that
we
need
to
all
be
providing
this
across
the
state.
Thank
you.
G
You
Mr
chair
I
think
sometimes
we
can
get
off
a
little
bit
of
a
tangency,
because
so
many
of
our
Senators
elected
have
concern
about
you
know
the
literacy
of
our
children
throughout
the
Commonwealth
me
for
one
I
think
that
we
got
to
constantly
looking
at
Best,
Practices
and
and
I
do
agree
that,
obviously,
through
the
history
of
Kentucky,
we've
fallen
behind
in
many
ways
and
that's
for
a
number
of
factors.
But
I
do
think
that
these
particular
grants.
Continuing
education
in
different
areas
looks
at
Best
Practices.
G
What
works
where
in
that
local
control
I
was
talking
to
one
of
my
colleagues
just
recently
and
I
think
that's
very,
very
important
so
that
we
continue
to
implement
that.
But
we
know
that
trying
to
put
the
same
thing
across
to
all
of
Kentucky
in
very,
very
different
districts
that
we
all
represent
with
different
situations.
Even
in
schools,
we
have
to
be
able
to
really
micro
tailor
that
so
I
think
these
particular
grants
help.
G
C
Thank
you,
sir.
You
have
the
questions.
Comments,
irritate
a
motion
to
approve
a
second
motion
by
Central
segment
by
co-chair
cook,
all
those
favorite
emotional
I
all
opposed
vote,
no
Kim.
Please
call
the
row.
C
Aye
motion
carries
moving
on
to
number
64
through
67
on
our
MOA
for
fifty
thousand
dollars
and
under
gray
list
again
I
request
that
these
contracts
be
pooled.
C
You
make
a
reference
to
the
agreement.
Type
is
called
calming
space
round
one
and
we're
going
to
provide
funds
to
implementing
calming
space,
to
support
self-management
strategies
for
all
students.
It's
in
essence
what
it
is.
So
can
you
explain
this
program
and
when
you
talk
about
round
one,
is
there
going
to
be
around
two
round
three
round
four?
What's
What's
Happening
Here.
N
There
will
be
two
rounds
up,
but
first
good
morning,
members
of
the
government
contract
Review,
Committee
Senator,
chairman
Meredith,
always
a
pleasure
to
be
here
to
discuss
and
engage
in
conversations
with
you
all
about
programs,
initiatives
and
Partnerships.
We
have
at
KDE
to
uplift
our
students
and
improve
instruction
for
both
students
and
staff
here
and
also
I
want
to
say
a
big
thanks
to
the
Kentucky
general
assembly
and
members
of
this
committee
here
for
making
student
mental
health
a
priority.
I
did
leave
you
with
a
a
recent
article.
N
More
Kentucky
youth
are
struggling
with
mental
health.
Our
our
state
lawmakers
doing
enough
and
I
think
this
is
an
example
of
our
lawmakers
being
committed
to
providing
a
multitude
of
services
to
meet
the
various
needs
of
students.
Mental
health
and
the
common
rooms
are
just
one
example
of
a
mechanism
we're
using
to
meet
the
needs
of
students,
mental
health
and
helping
students
to
de-escalate
from
crisis
situations
they
were
experiencing
in
school.
N
Example,
as
articulate
as
it
is
articulated
in
the
memo
to
you
all
say,
a
student
is
having
a
mental
health
crisis
and
we.
C
Can
excuse
me,
but
who
determines
that
that
they're
having
a
mental
health
crisis,
there's
got
to
be
a.
N
Triage
system
here
well
absolutely
there's
a
teacher
in
the
classroom.
There's
a
school
counselor,
it's
everyone,
they're,
the
school
principal
support
staff
and
other
administrators,
and
then
we're
also
at
a
point
here
in
Kentucky,
where
students
are
feeling
comfortable.
Because
again,
our
goal
is
to
ensure
that
each
student
in
Kentucky
has
at
least
one
adult
that
he
or
she
can
report
to
if
they're
having
a
crisis
or
something
of
that
nature.
N
And
so
the
student
is
identified
and
more
than
likely
it's
with
our
school
counselors,
not
always
who
are
trained.
Mental,
Health,
Specialists
and
again
I
want
to
thank
the
general
assembly
for
passing
a
bill,
making
a
law
that
we
will
have
more
mental
health
specialists
in
schools,
as
well
as
allowing
students
to
have
more
days
for
mental
health,
and
so
the
student
is
experiencing
a
crisis
in
the
classroom
in
school
either
coming
to
school
or
in
school.
These
calming
rooms
will
allow
students
to
go
in
and
de-escalate
with
a
staff
member.
C
N
N
N
C
N
Parent
is
notified
and,
on
some
of
these
occasions,
we're
encouraging
parents
to
be
a
critical
part.
A
critical
spoke
in
this
will
of
addressing
the
mental
health
of
all
of
our
students.
It's
a
comprehensive
approach.
Lawmakers
can't
do
it
alone.
Thank
you
for
supporting
student.
Mental
health
certainly
want
to
whether
it's
you
all
members
of
the
general
assembly,
the
government
contract,
Review
Committee,
our
governor
or
lieutenant
governor
or
our
commissioner.
N
It
takes
everyone
to
help
address
the
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
students,
folks
who
have
reported
depression
and
anxiety
in
Kentucky
alone,
but.
C
You
know
I
think
we're
creating
an
environment
where,
unless
you
have
a
mental
health
issue
and
you're
not
normal,
you
know
when
you
talk
about
that.
Many
people
suffering
from
some
type
of
Mental
Health
crisis
I,
would
challenge
the
data,
as
you
know,
life's
tough
always
has
been
always
will
be,
and
if
we
don't
allow
kids
just
understand
that
you've
got
to
adapt
and
accept
it
without
the
stigma
associated
with
having
a
mental
health
issue.
C
N
Or
I
would
add,
Senator
Meredith
a
traumatic
experience,
because
it's
not
totally
about
a
mental
health
crisis.
It
could
be
a
student
who
is
experiencing
some
Mental
Health
crisis
could
be
the
death
of
a
parent,
the
death
of
a
loved
one,
the
death
of
a
student,
and
so
this
will
allow
us
to
address
the
need
to
help
the
student
de-escalate
before,
as
you
called
it
before.
It
becomes
a
behavioral
problem
and
our
job
is
to
support
our
students
and
keep
them
in
school.
C
N
I
would
if
we
do
that,
but
again,
our
folks
here
in
Kentucky
are
not
about
the
business
of
creating
psychologically
unsafe
places.
Our
goal
is
to
create
calming
rooms
where
it
is
safe
for
students
and
staff,
again
they're
working
one-on-one
with
staff
and
to
destigmatize
students
who
aren't
staff
members
who
are
dealing
with
mental
health
issues
or
experiencing
some
type
of
traumatic
event.
C
N
Absolutely
not
the
point
I'm
making
is
to
destigmatize
mental
health
issues
to
destigmatize
students
and
staff
who
are
experiencing
traumatic
issues
and
to
make
it
more
acceptable
and
I
think
we're
doing
a
great
job
here
in
Kentucky,
making
it
more
acceptable
for
us
to
help
students
and
staff
members.
In
this
case,
your
students
address
these
issues.
Our
goal
is
again
to
destigmatize
it
as
opposed
to,
as
you
just
mentioned,
making
it
appear
that
a
student
is
in
trouble
that
the
student
is
having.
G
You
Mr
chair
this
one
hits
pretty
personal
right
now:
I
have
two
young
teenage
daughters
in
public
education
and
I
love
to
talk
to
them
to
look
at
the
difference,
because
the
way
that
they
handle
these
issues
compared
to
what
I've,
maybe
is
I've
grown
up
and
other
members
here,
there's
a
different
level
of
empathy
and
understanding
amongst
our
students
and
I.
G
Mental
health
is
not
a
new
thing;
it
is
something
that
Society,
particularly
in
Kentucky,
we've
been
behind.
We've
left
undressed
for
a
long
time.
We
see
a
lot
of
people
who
went
through
school
without
them,
we've
seen
horrific
results
of
not
addressing
that
and
we've
also
seen
as
an
adult.
So
if
it's
not
treated
as
they
when
they're
young,
sometimes
they
have
trouble
becoming
part
of
society.
You
see
dual
diagnosis,
where
we
go
into
drug
addiction,
where
people
try
to
self-diagnose.
G
So
the
fact
that
we're
trying
to
get
that
into
the
school
early
on
is
really
important.
I
lost
a
very
close
relative
after
his
second
day
of
high
school
to
suicide
and
I,
look
back
and
think
maybe
had
we
been
a
little
more
empathetic
at
understanding,
not
only
within
my
family,
but
that
understanding
things
would
have
been
very
different
and
so
I
commend
the
work
that
you're
doing,
because
you
are
saving
lives.
G
There's
a
saying
in
in
non-profit
area
that
you
always
you'll
always
have
some
greedy
with
the
needy
and
and
I
think
even
in
this
you're
going
to
have
some
kids
that
maybe
try
to
take
advantage
of
that
situation.
Of
course,
I
was
the
kid
that
went
down
the
locker
room
about
once
a
day
to
give
us
a
break
I
get
that,
but
you
sometimes
making
sure
they
have.
What
they
need
is
particularly
important
also
for
the
rest
of
the
classroom,
but
I
think
that
we're
looking
for
Best
Practices.
G
We
know
that
this
has
worked
other
places
and
you
talked
about
making
sure
that
the
families
involved-
you
know
as
a
mentor
or
youth
Mentor
a
lot
of
times,
there's
not
a
parent
to
call
there's,
no
one
that
cares
or
there's
no
one
that'll
pick
up
the
phone
to
show
up
down
the
school
district
when
they
need
that
help,
but
that
one-on-one
with
that
counselor
that
one-on-one
somebody
cares
lets
a
child
know,
there's
someone
who
gives
it
to
him
and
sometimes
that's
the
difference
between
them
being
successful
or
going
down
the
wrong
path.
G
C
I
I'm
concerned
that
sometimes
we're
not
really
saving
more
kids.
You
know
a
comment
was
made:
oh
we're
saving
more
kids.
We
don't
know
that
because
we
don't
have
the
data
and
I,
don't
know
that
we're
saving
more
kids
or,
if
we're
making
them
more
vulnerable,
something
that
Senator
Meredith
had
had
been
alluding
to
I'm
concerned
that
we
use
the
word
crisis
too
easily
I'm
an
anesthesiologist
I
get
the
word
crisis.
I
Trust
me,
I
do
I,
do
and
I'm
concerned
that
we
use
the
word
crisis
far
too
often
and
if
nothing
else
to
make
it
more
emotional.
These
are
our
kids
we
want
to.
We
want
to
educate
our
kids,
we
want
our
kids
to
be
safe.
We
don't
want
them
to
be
scared
and
I
fear
that
far
too
often
we
are
scaring
our
kids
with
some
of
the
words
that
we
use.
I
I
I
We
need
that
we've
got
Bankers,
we've
got
Farmers,
we've
got
Physicians,
we've
got
all
kinds
of
people
in
the
legislature,
we're
not
Professionals
in
every
area,
but
we
need.
We
need
our
professionals,
our
teachers,
our
superintendents,
our
principals,
our
leaders
in
education
to
be
truthful
with
us.
So
we
know
what
to
do
because
again,
if
we're,
if
we
continue
to
expand
all
these
programs,
we
can't
be
addressing
the
issue,
because
if
we
did,
we
wouldn't
have
to
keep
it
expanding
these
programs.
I
So
I
guess
this
is
not
a
question,
but
it
is
a
plea.
It
is
a
plea
from
my
heart
help
us
work
with
us.
Instead
of
always
asking
for
more
money
and
more
programs,
talk
to
us
help
us
to
understand
better
what
is
going
on,
so
we
can
start
decreasing
the
numbers
and
not
increasing
the
numbers.
That's
my
plea.
R
D
You
know
Senator
Douglas,
99
of
the
places
I
go
I,
usually
come
from
the
largest
family
I'm
one
of
10
kids.
So
I'm
going
to
come
around
you
be
around
one
of
16..
So
but
I
bet
you
and
I.
We
always
had
to
grow
up
sharing
a
room
and
there
was
no
place.
There
was
no
private
place
growing
up,
you
were
always
always
in
there
and
I
went
from
being
one
to
ten
kids
and
then
in
the
Marine.
Corps
and
I
can
promise
you.
D
There
was
no
calming
place
in
that
as
well,
but
but
I
see
the
need
for
this
and
I
understand
this
and
I
Senator
Yates
I
too,
have
a
16
year
old
daughter
and
it's
different.
D
D
I
mean.
Sometimes
these
kids
are
coming
to
school
and
they're,
going
rushing
first
thing:
they're
doing
is
going
straight
to
the
cafeteria,
so
they
can
eat
breakfast.
And
let
me
tell
you:
that's
that's
more
the
norm
than
it
is
the
unusual
I
think
I
think
25
years
ago,
when
I
was
in
high
school,
maybe
that
it
was
the
opposite,
and
you
know
just
a
few
kids
are
going
there,
but
now
you've
got
kids.
D
You
can't
even
stay
awake
in
first
hour
because
they
just
went
to
the
cafeteria
and
they
stuffed
themselves
because
they
hadn't
had
anything
to
eat
since
they
left
school
yesterday,
I
mean
I,
know
in
Bourbon
County
we
packed
600
backpacks
for
the
backpack
program,
last
Wednesday
600
and
just
a
little
old
Bourbon
County.
D
So
you
have
to
have
and
I
understand
and
I
understand
the
calming
place
and
if
you
even
told
me
that
you
were
getting
a
dog
in
there
that
so
a
kid
could
go
in
and
read
a
dog
or
anything
like
that.
I
would
understand,
and
I
would
get
that,
especially
for
elementary
school,
especially
for
middle
school.
D
Okay
in
that
safe
space
that
calming
place
is
going
to
disappear
for
them,
it's
gonna
be
like
having
the
rug
jerked
out
from
underneath
them.
So
how
do
we
create
it
and
I'm
all
about
the
creation
like
I
said?
I
would
do
anything
to
help
this
I
go
in
I
talk
to
kids,
I,
Mentor,
kids
I'm!
All
in
on
this
I
get
it.
D
How
do
we
transition
to
them
to
understand
that
when
you
hit
the
real
world,
when
you
turn
18
we're
jerking
that
rug
out
and
there's
going
to
be
no
commonplace?
I,
don't
get
a
calming
place
when
I
come
up
to
Frankfurt
and
the
annex
is
full
and
you
know
whether
you've
got
teachers
filling
the
hallways
or
you
you
know
whatever
there's
there's
no
safe
calming
place
for
us
and
God
knows
we
all
wish
there
would
be
sometimes
because
we
need
it,
but
but
how
do
we
transition?
N
And
I'll
speak
briefly
to
that.
Thank
you
for
articulating
that
so
well.
A
couple
months
ago,
you
all
heard
from
the
commissioner
student
advisory
committee
and
members
of
the
student
Voice
team
here
in
Kentucky,
beautiful
articulated
particulate
students
who
really
represent
the
best
in
American
public
education,
American
education
and
what
they
said
to
your
point.
Representative
cook
was
this.
R
Sure
to
the
Senators
that
just
spoke
emotional
regulation
has
been
proven
to
be
one
of
life's
one
of
the
best
predictions
for
our
post-secondary
success,
so
whether
you're
going
onto
a
farm
whether
you're
going
into
a
business
whether
you're
going
to
the
military,
we
should
all
know
emotional
regulation
skills,
emotional
regulation
and
coping
skills.
That's
a
requirement
of
this
common
Grant
so
to
teaching
students.
Those
specific
skills
is
a
requirement.
Also
required
is
teaching
proper
use
of
these
calming
spaces.
R
So
that's
going
to
be
important
for
you
to
know,
as
Dr
Tucker
mentioned.
Another
requirement
of
this
grant
is
for
family
engagement
and
Community
engagement,
so
making
sure
our
families
and
Community
are
involved.
We
talk
a
little
bit
about
Kentucky
ranks,
37th
and
overall
youth
well-being
37th.
So
we
have
to
do
something.
We
talk
about
data
nationally.
I
think
we
can
all
agree
that
the
CDC
is
a
really
strong,
evidence-based
organization.
R
They
say
suspected
attempted
suicides
increased
by
31
percent
among
adolescents
in
2020.,
51
percent
higher
in
2021,
compared
to
2019
among
girls,
ages
12
to
17..
So
we
do
have
a
crisis.
We
have
a
mental
health
crisis
and
I
love
that
that
Senator
Meredith
believes
that
we
should
take.
We
should
destigmatize
them
into
health
and
bring
these
mental
health
issues
out
into
the
light.
More
of
our
youth
are
actually
talking
about
this.
R
They
are
pleading
with
us
and
you
as
lawmakers
and
saying
that
we
need
to
do
more
about
mental
health,
so
these
common
spaces
are
a
wonderful
way
to
approach
this
think
about
the
floods
in
Eastern
Kentucky
think
about
the
tornado
in
in
Western
Kentucky.
How
are
we
supporting
students
who
are
in
crisis
right?
This
is
just
one
option.
I
want
to
tell
you
one
other
thing.
R
The
general
assembly,
as
Dr
Tucker
mentioned,
did
a
great
job.
You,
you
yourselves
said.
We
recognize
that
all
schools
must
provide
a
place
for
students
to
feel
safe
and
supported
to
learn
throughout
the
school
day
and
that
any
trauma
student
may
have
experience
can
have
a
significant
impact
on
the
ability
of
a
student
to
learn.
Our
common
spaces
are
one
wonderful
solution
that
is
evidence-based
to
this
issue
that
you
have
addressed.
C
Thank
you
appreciate
that
and
I'll
throw
out
a
couple
statistics,
though
that
troubled
me
greatly
and
I
heard
this
a
couple
years
ago,
in
committee
meeting
from
three
Physicians
from
University
of
Kentucky
and
the
first
being
that
in
1900,
the
human
brain
was
fully
developed
at
18
years
of
age.
Today,
it's
25
plus,
which
tells
me
we're
not
allowing
kids
to
grow
up.
C
We
don't
recognize
the
resiliency
of
the
human
spirit
and
what
people
are
capable
of
doing
when
they
do
face
adversity
and
I.
Don't
have
any
problem
with
the
calming
room,
but
I
do
have
a
problem
with
how
far
we
are
we
taking
this,
that
kids
are
going
to
be
totally
shielded
from
adversity,
and
that's
where
you
learned
your
greatest
lessons
in
life.
The
second
statistic:
I
asked
the
Physicians.
We
were
talking
about
teenage
suicide.
C
The
alarming
rate
has
increased,
we've,
certainly
knowledge
that
and
I
asked
them,
and
it
was
not
a
leading
question
is:
is
there
any
particular
group
of
students
that
you
can
do
by
social
economic
strata
that
has
a
higher
probability
of
suicide
than
others
and
I
can
tell
one
of
the
Physicians
who
answered
really
struggled
with
the
answer
for
the
longest
time?
He's
thought
about
it.
C
Now,
that's
where
his
struggles
found
the
word
religiosity,
which
means
that
they
have
some
belief
in
a
higher
being.
If
that
is
statistically
relevant,
which
I
think
that
it
is,
then
why
don't
we
focus
on
that
as
well?
We
can't
we
want
to
look
at
other
avenues
ahead
of
us,
but
again
we're
not
allowing
children
or
grow
up
we're
instilling
them
from
adversity
and
then,
when
they
get
out
in
the
real
world
it
says
Cameron
chairman
chairman
cook,
mentioned
they
don't
know
how
to
function.
C
You
know
burning
Los,
Angeles
and
Detroit,
and
we
dealt
with
the
Cold
War.
We
actually
had
drills,
where
you
had
to
hide
underneath
the
desk
and
and
to
prepare
for
a
bomb
hitting
you
I
was
I
would
venture
to
say
that
in
my
generation
we
face
as
many
Adverse
Events
as
children
do
today,
but
we
learn
to
adapt
and
be
able
to
function.
Society
and
that's
my
concern.
C
I
know
we
belabor
this
too
long
already,
but
it
concerns
me
that
we're
taking
this
too
extreme
the
testimonies
you're
talking
about
those
those
articulate
young
people
who
testified
this
summer.
We
gave
two
days
of
mental
health.
Excuse
absence.
They
want
six
really
to
go
back
to
Central
Douglas
Point.
They
need
to
be
in
the
classroom
because
you
being
at
home
sitting
in
your
basement
to
contemplating
what's
going
to
happen
next,
it's
not
a
mental
health
solution
for
us.
So
again,
I
believe
this
thing
too
long,
but
it's
very,
very
disturbing
and
I.
C
F
F
One
of
my
concerns
has
been
that
we
don't
have
enough
one-on-one
interaction
in
schools,
and
it
seems
like
to
me
when
guidance
counselors
are
assigned
to
600
kids
a
piece
or
something.
How
are
we
making
sure
that
all
the
kids
that
blow
in
the
calming
space
are
going
to
have
this
enough
staff?
For
this.
N
It
will
be
a
multitude
of
staff,
not
all
school
counselors,
where
we
are
working
hard
and
again
through
your
support
in
your
vote
in
creating
a
law
for
us
to
hire
additional
mental
health
folks.
So
it
won't
be
all
of
our
stuff
of
our
school
counselors.
It
will
be
a
multitude
of
Staff,
different
staff
members
and
staff
members
trained
and
I'll
ask
Dr
Sweeney
to
briefly
speak
on
that.
Please.
R
Yeah
Senator
Southworth
hello
again
so
again,
the
Senate
has
created
a
bill.
The
safety
and
resilience
I'm.
Sorry,
Max
safety
and
resilience
act,
resiliency
act
which
suggests
that
school
counselors
should
have
school
counselor
to
student
ratio
of
250
to
one.
But
as
you
know,
it's
a
should
and
not
a
show,
and
so
we
would
love.
We
would
love
your
support
and
and
and
backing
that
bill
with
with
the
should
I
I'm
yeah,
with
the
should
I'm
sorry
with
the
shout
rather
and
requiring
more
school
counselors
in
our
state.
R
We
know
that
it
is
efficacious.
It
is
evidence-based,
there's
so
much
evidence
to
suggest
that
school
counselors
support
the
whole
child,
whether
it's
academic
development,
social,
emotional
development
or
College
and
Career
Development.
So
we
would
love
that
support
as
Dr
Tucker
mentioned.
R
Many
of
many
of
the
the
skills
that
are
being
taught
for
these
common
spaces
are
coping
skills,
emotional
regulation,
skills
and
self-management
skills.
So
if,
if
I
need
a
minute
as
an
adult-
and
we
all
do
at
times,
we
all
need
to
take
a
walk
at
times.
Don't
we?
If
we
need
a
moment
right,
we
should
be
able
to
do
that.
We
should
be
able
to
identify
when
we
are
escalated,
and
why
would
we
not
do
the
same
for
why?
Why
would
we
not
teach
our
students
to
do
the
same.
F
Let
me
pop
in
here
that
goes
to
the
second
question
I
had,
which
was.
This
is
ten
thousand
dollars
for
a
whole
Board
of
Education
and
they're,
going
to
have
multiple
schools
for
every
District,
so
I'm
trying
to
piece
this
out
to
find
out
what
can
we
afford
with
ten
thousand
dollars
so
we'd
like
Buy,
in
a
sofa
with
two
pillows
on
it
like
for
six
schools
at
Goodwill,
or
how
are
we
doing
this?
No.
R
Actually,
the
the
breakdown
of
cost
is
in
the
contract
in
front
of
you,
so
you
can
take
a
look
at
that
and
there's
a
requirement
for
a
sustainability
plan.
So
after
this
year
each
school
district
is
required
to
explain
how
they
plan
to
maintain
this.
C
C
We
don't
spend
our
dollars
wisely
and
I'm,
not
sure
how
future
Generations
are
going
to
deal
with
the
fact
that
our
economy
is
collapsing
and
if
we
see
a
depression
like
we
saw
in
the
20s
and
30s
we're
not
going
to
have
enough
calming
space
for
anybody.
But
with
that
great
discussion,
I
appreciate
it.
Is
there
a
motion
to
approve
these
contracts.
C
F
My
vote
Mr
chairman,
well,
sorry
I'm
not
against
having
a
better
place
to
go
than
the
principal's
office
when
you
need
to
talk
to
somebody
because
or
when
you
need
to
de-escalate,
because
I
think
that
we
need
to
have
more
one-on-one
interaction.
But
what's
mostly
concerning
me
here
why
I'm
going
to
vote?
No
is
we've
got
ten
thousand
dollars
on
round
one
I
just
heard
that
in
order
to
implement
this
right,
we're
gonna
need
to
pass
another
bill
next
year
and
we've
got
round
two
and
so
far
I
don't
see.
I
mean
this.
G
We've
asked
you
to
tell
us
what
you
need.
We
know
there's
a
problem:
we've
had
we
all
we're
all
elected
officials
and
we
have
our
own
areas,
expertise.
You've
brought
the
very
best
experts
in
and
and
have
that
direction.
You're
saying
these
small
inclemental
pieces
all
put
together,
make
up
the
Greater
hole
to
help
put
us
in
the
right
direction
and
our
children
should
be
our
top
priority.
I'm
a
yes,
but.
G
I'm
going
to
vote
yesterday,
it's
been.
C
D
I'm
going
to
vote
yesterday,
I'm
voting.
Yes,
because
I've
been
in
the
schools,
I've
seen
it,
and
sometimes
you
need
a
space.
We
need
a
space
because
that
one
kid
in
there,
that
is
having
that
bad
day
that
doesn't
maybe
they're
not
being
so
bad
that
you
go
to
the
principal
office
but
they're
being
bad
enough,
they're
disrupting
the
whole
class.
And
yet
we
have
to
find
some
kind
of
way
to
get
them
back
in
line,
so
they
can
be
in
class,
and
the
teacher
ends
up
focusing
on
that.
D
One
kid:
instead
of
focusing
on
the
whole
classroom
and
I
think
there's
definitely
a
use
for
these
calming
places.
I
just
looked
over
a
list
of
materials
going
to
be
in
there.
I
have
a
lot
of
questions
about
that,
and
what
they're
going
to
look
like
between
elementary
school
middle
school
and
then
I
have
very
very
great
concerns
on
how
we
make
that
transition
from
okay,
you're
approaching
18
you're,
getting
ready
to
be
an
adult
you're
going
to
lose
your
comment
space.
D
How
are
you
going
to
function
so
I
have
a
lot
of
questions
about
how
we're
going
to
do
that.
Transition
and
I
would
like
to
see
more
on
that
and
how
the
legislature
can
help
make
that
effective
to
know
that
you're
not
going
to
get
a
oh
hold
on
a
second.
Let's
stop
this
once
you
turn
18
that
that's
not
going
to
exist
anymore,
so
I
vote
Yes
today.
C
I
need
to
clarify
some
some
business
here
we
started
this
discussion
with
a
motion
to
defer
several
items
and
because
they're
on
two
different
lists,
I
need
two
different
motions.
We
had
the
56
on
the
routine
MOA
pink
list,
which
the
motion
that
we
made
is
acceptable
for
that,
but
I
need
a
separate
motion
for
120
and
121.
Then
the
Moa
amendment
10
list
to
defer
motion
representative
Hearts
seconded
by
co-chair
cook,
always
a
favorite
of
the
motion.
Vote
I
all
opposed
vote,
no
Kim.
Please
call
the
row.
C
Aye
motion
carries
and
post
appreciate
you
joining
us
this
morning
in
participating
this
some
discussion.
It's
always
worthwhile
for
all
of
us
I
believe.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you
for
joining
us
again.
You've
been
here
so
frequently
this
Summer,
that,
if
you
would,
you
know
the
routine,
please
identify
yourself
for
the
record
and
feel
free
to
proceed.
Karen.
R
C
Senator
Southwest
has
questions.
F
Thank
you
I
hope
that
if
you
guys
are
fifth
on
the
agenda,
you
would
have
been
up
close
to
the
front,
but
apparently
not.
My
question
is
on
both
Whitley
County
and
Garrett.
County.
Are
these
counties
were
they
previously
using
the
East
Lake
e-scan?
They
have
the
East
lates,
and
these
are
now
the
Verdi
systems
or
these
additional
machines
on
the
current
system.
They're
already
using
now.
F
I
D
C
Motion
by
Central
Bowling
seconded
by
co-chair
cook,
also
favor.
The
motion
vote
I
all
opposed
vote.
No-
and
this
was
just
on
number
15
Central
Southworth.
Is
that
correct?
Excuse.
F
C
F
Voting
I
because
I
want
to
get
rid
of
the
East
lights.
This
is
in
no
way
an
endorsement
of
the
Verity
I.
Think
everybody
knows
that,
but
that
is
I
know.
A
lot
of
these
counties
are
trained
to
get
there
and
we've
required
them
to
do
that.
So
at
least
there's
some
level
of
paper
to
be
seen
in
this.
Thank
you.
A
B
C
Motion
by
representative
heart
second,
by
co-chair
cook,
we'll
spend
the
motion
boat
I
all
opposed
vote.
No,
please
call
the
row.
H
C
H
F
Thank
you,
I
noticed
the
department
for
local
government
and
most
of
these
projects
uses
local
government
Economic
Development
funds
and
in
some
cases
there
are
federal
funds,
and
here
we're
talking
about
General
funds
and
I,
wanted
to
find
out.
If
you
could
explain
to
us
what
these
General
funds
are
and
what
the
differences
are
between
some
people's
projects,
I'm
a
little
struggling
and
didn't
really
see
any
Clarity
in
the
contract,
either.
P
Project
which
some
may
call
a
line
item,
this
is
a
general
fund.
H
Is
identified
as
a
community
development
project,
this
was
a
one-time
allocation
for
the
2022-2024
fiscal.
P
Biennium
and
I'll
read
this
specifically
and
the
reason
I'm
reading.
This
is
because
there
was
approximately
40
of
these
line,
items
that
were
given
to
dlg
to
administer
so
I.
F
Explainable
Mr
chairman,
yes,
I'm,
going
to
vote
Yes
because
it
is
in
our
budget.
It's
one
of
those
things
that
you
don't
really
love
about.
Our
budget
feel
like
it's,
not
really
state
government
budget
job
to
determine
that
City
in
Williamsburg
singing
at
1.4
million
dollars
for
a
splash
park.
I
would
really
prefer
that
we
be
a
little
bit
more
State
focused
and
not
like
that
in
our
budget,
but
it
is
what
it
is.
So
that's
why
I'm
voting
yesterday.
C
Aye
motion
carries
next
item
on
the
pool
list
are
with
transportation
office
and
the
secretary
excuse
me
excuse
me:
excuse
me,
got
ahead
of
myself
next
item
on
the
pool
list
with
Department
of
Public
Health
and
our
number
is
46
47
48
on
the
routine
MOA
pink
list.
If
representation
Department
of
Health
are
with
us,
please
identify
yourself
for
the
record.
C
K
Chairman
this
Astrid
Masterson
with
office
of
administrative
Services
may.
O
H
H
H
F
My
question
really
is
around
the
it
says:
federal
funds
and
I'm
trying
to
get
to
you
know
a
better
understanding
of
exactly
what
we're
doing.
It
sounds
to
me
kind
of
like
the
same
thing
that
I
go
to
that
aren't
government-run
that
are
you
know,
neighborhood
group
meetings,
that
kind
of
stuff
trying
to
move
things
around
the
community
and
I'm
just
trying
to
get
to
the
bottom
of
exactly
how
and
when
we
decide
that
the
government
agency
needs
to
organize
Community
meetings
versus
communities,
organizing
their
own
meetings,
very
kind
of
pick
and
choosy.
F
H
H
The
project
I
to
me
was
in
a
very
unique
position.
They
have
a
great
inreach
into
communities
that
we
don't
so
we're
we're
trying
to
get
that
Community
conversation
going
around
Health
and
Wellness
teaching
communities
to
be
advocates
for
their
own
health
to
be
mindful
of
information
that
comes
their
way.
How
do
they
best
receive
it?
What's
the
best
way
to
give
it
if
access
and
transportation
is
an
issue
we
can
provide
that
and
project
Ricochet
was
in
a
position
to
do
that.
H
They're
reaching
the
faith-based
community,
which
we
really
didn't,
have
our
finger
on
I,
don't
have
to
tell
you
that
a
lot
of
communities
look
to
their
pastors
and
their
religious
entities
for
information,
their
trusted
Messengers
within
the
community.
So
that's
why
project
Ricochet
came
to
us
and
said
we
can
help.
You
expand
your
reach.
We
can
touch
these
communities
and
hear
the
multiple
ways
we're
going
to
do
that.
H
C
F
C
F
My
question
on
hang
on.
Let
me
do
I
have
46..
My
question
on
46
is
exactly
what
we're
going
at
here,
because
it
says
that
we're
going
to
have
all
activities
targeted
to
promote
an
increase
in
vaccine
confidence
and
it's
you
know,
media
disseminating
educational
materials,
trying
to
push
this
out
more.
B
Okay,
thank
you
so
much
Senator
Southworth.
So
this
is
a
part
of
a
RFA
process
for
federal
funds.
A
grant
from
the
CDC.
The
immunization
branch
is
100
federally
funded
and
the
grant
calls
for
us
to
work
with
non-profits
with
community-based
organizations
to
improve
the
Public's
perception
about
their
vaccine
confidence.
F
F
This
is
a
community
program
to
have
parents
giving
Health
advice
to
their
friends
that
could
be
or
is
not
accurate
or
whatever.
In
probably,
the
reason
this
is
happening
is
because
maybe
they
have
passed
around
information,
the
CDC
doesn't
approve
of
right
and
now
we're
going
to
make
sure
we
only
pass
around
the
other
side,
even
though
we're
talking
about
parents,
that
probably
don't
know
what
they're
even
saying.
B
So
it's
not
just
parents
on
the
community
Advisory
Board,
it's
actually
Physicians
nurses
in
the
and
I
have
a
I
have
an
actual
list
from
the
cab.
Membership
will
consist
of
Representatives
of
organizations
within
the
healthcare
ecosystem,
Health
Care
Providers,
Social,
Service
organizations
and
Community
residents
of
the
target
community.
F
Okay,
that
that
sounds,
nice
I'm
just
having
a
hard
time
looking
through
this
contract.
Seeing
exactly
what
you're
saying,
because
it
looks
like
to
me
doesn't
say
anything
in
here
about
childhood.
It
doesn't
say
anything
about
parents
and
sometimes
when
we
have
ideas
about
what
things
are
going
to
be
and
then
the
contract
language
doesn't
say
that
and
then
the
contract
really
is
about
something
else.
And
it's
not
something
we're
talking
about
today.
So
that's
kind
of
where
the
disconnect
is
for
me.
F
F
Well,
we
all
know
what
that
is
because
we're
the
ones
that
wrote
it,
but
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
get
to
the
bottom
of
is
we're
talking
about
half
a
million
dollars
here
to
do
a
media
campaign
that
is
not
really
specific
in
its
contract
and
that's
a
major
issue.
F
Is
there
any
way
that
we
can
get
the
contract
language
to
more
accurately
reflect
the
grant
language
if
it
is
in
fact
the
case
or
you
just
kind
of
projecting
what
you
think
the
program
is
going
to
look
like
based
on
what
you
think
the
board
members
are
going
to
decide
relating
to
having
parents
to
give
testimony
and
so
forth.
B
F
F
In
any
event,
I
just
have
major
concerns
with
chairman
about
this
kind
of
cost.
This
kind
of
lack
of
connectivity
between
money
and
and
content,
so
I
guess
I,
would
just
move
to
disapprove.
If
that's
something
we
can
move
forward
with
them,.
C
F
Providing
me
more
information
doesn't
change
the
language
in
the
contract.
What
I'm,
trying
to
get
to
is
the
language
of
the
contract
does
not
match
the
discussion,
so
language
needs
to
say
what
the
money's
being
used
for
and
we
can
talk
all
day
long.
We
can
send
emails,
but
if
it's
not
in
the
contract,
then
nothing's
going
to
make
sure
it
happens.
So.
F
Today,
they'll
have
breakdowns
on
how
the
money
is
getting
divided
out.
If
the
board's
already
been
decided
who's
on
the
board,
what
their
each
of
their
roles
are
going
to
be,
and
some
contracts
come
sketchy
and
some
come
detailed,
and
so
when
they
come
sketchy
and
then
I
can
see
where
your
description
could
fit
in
this
contract.
But
this
contract
does
not
necessarily
reflect
your
description,
so
I
would
move
to
defer.
If
that
is
something
you
guys
want
to
consider
amending
the
language
of
your
contract.
F
More
clearly
articulate,
what's
going
on,
I
could
certainly
I'd.
C
G
A
lot
of
times
when
I
look
at
the
contracts
having
come
from
the
Metro
council,
local
body,
I,
used
to
always
frustrated
when
they
wouldn't
push
for
local
control.
I
always
say
that
so
much
of
the
state
of
Kentucky.
They
try
to
micromanage
things
that
they're,
not
experts
in
until
I
ask
back
for
local
control.
Most
the
members
of
this
body
would
always
agree.
Yes,
yes,
we're
going
to
work
on
that
with
our
project.
You
have
right
now,
Federal
money.
G
That's
come
in
place
with
certain
guidelines,
then
we've
laid
out
kind
of
the
parameters,
but
I
would
not
want
to
sit
as
a
member
of
this
committee
and
micromanage,
a
board
of
local
experts
on
how
they're
going
to
facilitate
that
I
want
to
say
within
the
parameters
of
that
contract.
But
you
want
to
be
able
to
have
that
local
control
with
those
local
experts
in
those
local
communities
in
which
they're
experts
now
I,
know
me
representing
Jefferson
County.
G
Some
of
that
going
into
it
I
want
to
make
sure
they
have
that
ability
to
be
able
to
be
successful.
Sometimes,
when
the
federal
government
micromanages
exactly
how
things
will
be
done
in
Kentucky
they're,
not
done
very
well,
we
talk
about
the
frustration
of
the
waste.
We
don't
want
to
make
that
same
mistake.
We
have
Federal
money,
that's
come
through
us
to
make
sure
it
goes
to
our
local
boards,
local
committees,
in
order
to
be
able
to
do
it
better.
G
Here,
we've
brought
experts
on
the
who
are
part
of
the
committee,
and
then
you
got
members
of
residents
or
part
of
the
committee
to
be
able
to
facilitate
this
correctly,
so
I
think
it's
it's
a
positive
thing
and
I
appreciate
it
being
done
this
way
as
opposed
to
us
trying
to
over
legislate
this
bill
that
we
do
so
often.
B
F
Mr
chairman
I,
will
make
a
motion
to
defer
if
there
is
Improvement
that
can
be
made,
but
I
don't
want
to
defer
and
just
say:
well
we're
not
going
to
do
anything
in
the
next
month.
We'll
write
back
where
we
are
so
it
kind
of
depends
on
you
know
the
agency.
If
you
all
have
improvements
you
feel
like
you
can
make,
we
can.
H
Make
some
minor
improvements,
but
what
I'd
like
to
point
out
is
that
any
type
of
advertising
that
the
that
the
board
would
want
to
do.
We
have
to
prove
that
beforehand.
So
we
would
make
sure
that
it
follows
the
guidelines
of
the
grant,
but
you
know
we
want
to
give
them
the
leeway
of
of
determining
what
type
of
advertising
works
for
the
community
itself.
F
I
feel
like
the
advertising
part
in
here
is
a
little
bit
already
kind
of
covered,
because
it
says,
conduct
a
media
campaign
to
include
100
print
ads,
Outdoor
Advertising
at
50
locations
and
eight
radio
commercials.
That's
pretty
specific.
What's
not
specific
is
what
you
well.
It
seems
specific
to
me,
they're,
going
to
disseminate
a
newsletter
quote.
Why
I
got
the
vaccination
to
communities
that
have
been
identified?
Of
course,
the
board's
going
to
identify
the
community,
so
all
that
seems
specific,
but
none
of
it
sounds
like
what
you
said
was
happening.
That's
where
I'm
sounds.
C
C
Let's,
let's
take
a
different
approach,
then
I
think
you're
desire
to
defer
is
too
contingent
on
too
many
different
factors.
What
I'd
suggest
is,
let's
entertain
a
motion
to
prove.
Should
that
motion
fail,
then,
let's
entertain
a
motion
to
defer
to
give
these
folks
an
opportunity
to
come
back
and
talk
to
it.
So
is
there
a
motion
to
approve.
C
C
I
Sir
nice
programs
over
time
seems
that
we're
having
our
community
more
and
more
and
more
and
more
educate
our
patient
population
problem
is
many
of
them.
Don't
understand
the
intricacies
of
all
of
this.
What
I'd
like
to
see
is
a
program
that
encourages
confidence
in
the
providers
who
are
treating
patients.
I
You
know,
hearsay
is
wonderful
and,
having
my
buddy
tell
me,
is
wonderful,
but
I
doubt
that
buddy
stayed
up
56
hours,
trying
to
learn
some
of
this
information
and
I
assure
you
that
many
Physicians
have
I,
don't
want
to
kill
it,
and
for
that
reason,
Mr,
chairman
I
I,
pass.
F
Let's
play
my
no
vote:
Miss
Truman,
yes,
I-
want
to
Echo
everything
that
Senator
Douglas
just
said,
because
that's
an
excellent
way
to
put
a
tip
on
this
I
have
a
number
of
issues
around
this.
But
one
of
them
is
that
you
know
if
one
person
gets
the
vaccine
and
it
worked
for
them.
The
next
person
we
don't
know
they
may
have
an
issue
and
they're
one
of
the
people
on
the
list
that
has
to
go
Sue
to
get
life
damages
from
our
federal
government.
F
You
can't
make
those
kind
of
decisions
based
on
he
said
she
said
in
fact
you're
taking
a
risk
regardless
we're
always
taking
risks
and
signing
waivers
and
so
forth
these
kind
of
things.
This
is
not
the
place
and
time
to
put
out
media
information
without
really
giving
people
the
ins,
outs
and
buts
about
things.
So
I
will
vote
no.
D
Explain
my
vote.
Yes
I
vote,
Yes
I
side
with
Senator
Yates
on
this
I
believe
the
smaller
element
that
you
can
push
those
decisions
down
to.
That's
where
the
best
decision
is
going
to
be
made
and
I
think
on
page
three,
you
clearly
lay
out
the
vaccination
intervention
and
coordination
with
Community
Partners
as
prioritized
the
community,
Advisory,
Board
and
I.
Think
that's
on
new
auto
set
that
board
up
I,
don't
think!
That's
something
the
legislature!
We
need
to
be
doing
that
on
every
single
contract
that
comes
through
here.
C
I
vote
I
and
concur
with
my
co-chairs
views
on
this,
but
I
think
today
we
may
have
identified
a
bigger
problem
and
that's
just
the
willingness
to
accept
Federal
money
without
it
really
understanding
what
the
requirements
are
associated
with
that
and
I
think
maybe
that
was
going
to
fall
out
of
the
purview
of
this
committee,
but
I
think
at
some
point
in
time.
As
a
legislature,
we
need
to
address
how
federal
funds
are
obtained
and
what
the
the
requirements
are
to
receive
those
funds,
it's
sort
of
like
I,
call
it
bureaucratic
Oxycontin.
C
You
know
we
get
hooked
on
these
funds
without
asking
why
we're
getting
them
and
then
then
we're
hooked,
but
I'm
not
interested
in
getting
the
micromanagement
of
these
things
as
well.
So
with
that
my
vote
is
I've
got
four
a
votes,
two,
no
one
pass
the
measure
passes.
So,
let's
move
on
to
number
47.
C
F
You
I'm
looking
at
the
contract
and
the
title
that
we
were
given
was
that
we
were
going
to
work
with
this
change
today,
change
tomorrow
to
work
on
racial
equity
in
providing
resources
it
seems
like
breastfeeding
support
and
food
shortage
support.
So
at
first
I
didn't
see
anything
about
racial
Equity.
F
I
really
didn't
know
where
that
fit
in,
because
if
somebody's
hungry
I
don't
really
care
what
you
look
like
or
ways
your
ancestors
are
from,
but
in
in
letter
I'm
on
page
four,
now
here
letter
b,
Services
required,
it
says
we'll
partner
with
local
black
Farmers
or
other
local
farms
to
procure
25
organic
produce
offered
to
the
community.
F
J
Point
you
bring
up,
we
with
changes.
They
change
tomorrow
are
allowing
change
today,
change
tomorrow,
to
identify
those
farmers
and
to
identify
the
amount
of
produce
they're
not
required
to
provide
the
20
or
the
farmers
are
not
required
to
provide
that
25.
But
it
is
a
goal
of
theirs
to
provide
that
25
as
part
of
the
produce
and
fresh
fruits
and
vegetables
that
they
are
going
to
give
to
the
clientele
of
West
Louisville.
J
Well,
they
we
actually
are
not
paying
for
any
of
the
produce
with
this
grant
funding.
This
just
allows
change
today,
change
tomorrow,
with
some
operational
costs
to
be
able
to
identify
those
farmers
and
try
to
get
buy-in
from
those
Farmers
to
work
with
them
with
the
local
food
pantry
to
provide
fresh
fruits
and
vegetables
that
they
might
not
otherwise
be
getting.
So
that
is
just
one
of
the
strategies
to
address
the
food
insecurity
in
that
region.
F
Okay,
I
appreciate
that
and
I
appreciate
your
thoughtfulness
and
trying
to
answer
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
it's
confusing
to
me,
because
it
seems
like
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
black
food
goes
to
Black.
Neighborhood
sounds
not
very
integrated
to
me
and
I
thought
we,
this
kind
of
goes
against
my
thought
process,
which
is
get
food
anywhere.
You
can
and
get
it
to
everyone
you
can
and
if
the,
if
we've
not
been
treating
the
black
people
right,
then
maybe
the
white
people
need
to
get
more
food
like
it.
F
J
A
lot
of
what
they're
going
to
try
to
do
is
to
get
the
excess
produce
that
the
local
farmers
and
it
doesn't
have
to
just
be
black
Farmers.
It
can
be
any
local,
Farm
or
agriculture
operation
that
has
excess
food,
but
because
change
today
change
tomorrow
is
unapologetically
black
lead
for
the
community
in
which
they
live
and
reside.
J
We
think
it's
a
really
good
opportunity
for
for
us
to
partner
with
them,
because
there's
a
lack
of
other
organizations
within
that
region
that
can
provide
the
same
Services
we're
also
providing
funding
to
food
pantries
in
Todd
County,
as
well
as
we're
trying
to
work
with
Callaway
County.
So
it's
not
just
inner
city
Louisville
that
we're
working
with
we're
also
trying
to
incorporate
Western
Kentucky
eastern
Kentucky
with
our
overall
objectives
of
our
grant.
So
this
is
just
one
of
those
areas
that
we're
trying
to
affect
that
change.
In
no.
F
Thank
you,
I
do
like
the
idea
of
not
having
food
go
to
waste
and
I
I.
Don't
like
this.
You
know
well
best
by
date,
means
rotten
on.
You
know
so
I'd
like
to
get
food
out
to
wherever
we
can
I
just
don't
want
to
end
up
with
a
bunch
of
bureaucracy
that
makes
us
not
move
it
in
the
right
place,
because
somebody
checked
the
wrong
box.
So
thank
you.
You're
welcome.
D
I'm
not
question
just
to
comment
on
I.
Just
so
everybody
in
the
committee
knows
I
have
the
contract
in
front
of
me.
I
just
want
to
read
that
line.
It
says
we'll
partner
with
local
black
Farmers
or
other
local
farms
to
procure
25
organic
produce
produce
on,
but
it
does
it
does
have
the
ore
in
there.
It's
not
a
specific
call
out.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
committee
sees
that.
C
C
I
G
P
Are
you
I'm
all
right,
I
hope
that
you're
doing
well
as
well,
I'm
Jason,
sawala,
Deputy,
State,
Highway
engineer
for
the
transportation
cabinet
here
representing
the
office
of
Highway
Safety
with
me,
I
have
our
director
of
purchases
Laura
Hagan
and
as
well
as
our
assistant
director
for
the
division
of
highway
safety
programs,
Ryan
Fisher.
C
N
C
P
Sure
unite
Corporation,
so
all
of
these
all
of
these
contracts
are
a
part
of
the
Kentucky
office
of
Highway
safety's
annual
highway
safety
plan,
which
is
something
that
is
federally
funded
and
and
we
send
an
application
into
the
national
highway
traffic
safety
administration
for,
and
so
we
take
in
applications
from
different
groups.
Well,
I
mean
it's
an
open
application
process,
so
we
have
we
take
in
applications.
They
go
through
a
a
process
within
the
office
of
Highway
Safety.
P
That's
also
participated
in
by
Nitza
and
basically,
what
we're
we're
working
on
is
items
to
improve
highway
safety
for
all
users,
not
just
vehicle
occupants,
but
also
motorcyclists,
pedestrians,
bicyclists
and
other
vulnerable
Road
users,
and
so
these
all
of
these
contracts
are
the
result
of
a
Grant
application
that
we
receive
leave
through
an
open
process
and
then
subsequently,
you
know
these
were
included
as
a
recommendation
to
in
our
highway
safety
plan
to
Nitsa,
which
was
then
approved,
and
so
when
we
go
back
through
the
the
process
to
get
these
contracts,
if
they
are
not
with
a
with
a
public
entity,
like
say
a
police
agency
or
a
public
university
or
some
of
these
other
items,
you
know
we
we
need
to
go
through
the
not
practical,
David
process
and
Laura
feel
free.
P
If
I,
if
I
missed
anything
from
the
procurement
side
that
that's
relevant
there.
C
P
So
they
they
run
a
program
called
the
arrival
live
tour,
which
is
an
educational
program
for
schools
and
communities
that
basically,
they
run
educational
programs
using
a
distracted
drunken
and
Drug
driving
simulator
to
educate
drivers
on
the
the
dangers
of
impaired
driving
and
distracted
driving,
and
also
what
the
effects
of
of
those
can
be
not
only
to
themselves
but
to
also
to
their
families
and
their
communities.
And.
P
Put
in
an
application
when
we
had
our
application
process
open
through
the
office
of
Highway
Safety
and
they
they
placed
an
application
and
it
went
through
our
our
process,
our
internal
process
within
the
office
of
Highway
Safety,
to
look
at
programs
and
to
look
at
applications
and
Ryan.
If
you
want
to
jump
in
there
and
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
process,
you're
you're
welcome
to,
but
well.
P
Well,
over
a
hundred
but
I
I,
don't
I
don't
have
that
number
specifically
in
front
of
me.
I
can
get
it
for
you,
though.
If
you'd
like.
C
C
P
That
that's
correct
and
Laura,
if,
if
you
have
any
information
on
kind
of
how
that
works
through
the
through
the
procurement
lens,
I
I
would
be
appreciative
of
that,
but
I.
What
I
can
say
is
that
we
we
do
have
these
applications
open
for
anybody
that
would
like
to
apply
that
provides
these
types
of
services
related
to
improving
behaviors
and
awareness
of
highway
traffic
safety
issues
and
opportunities
to
improve
highway
traffic
safety
each
year.
We
we
do
that
as
a
part
of
this
process,
so.
C
C
P
Correct
that
is
correct,
but
I
just
to
just
to
be
clear
in
the
Grant
application
process.
You
know
I,
didn't
you
know
the
the
office
of
Highway
Safety
asked
for
applications
to
improve
highway
safety,
not
specifically
to
run
this
program.
So
this
is.
This
is
a
vendor
that
came
to
us
with
an
application
to
run
this
program
throughout
Kentucky.
It
is
evidence-based
and
they
were.
They
were
selected
along
with
people
that
run
other
different
types
of
programs,
as
you,
as
you
saw
in
some
of
the
other
places
in
the
list
that
you
pulled.
C
P
Sure
so
and
that's
the
that's
the
same,
the
same
general
process
where
we
have
the
where
we
have
that
application
process
open
for
for
groups
to
apply
to
improve
highway
traffic
safety.
Now,
if
you
look
at
those
ones
with
the
Kentucky
associations
of
chiefs
of
police,
there's
six
of
those
that
are
for
services
related
to
what
we
would
call
law
enforcement,
Liaisons
and
four
of
those
are
Regional
and
do
General.
P
Highway,
Safety
type,
Outreach
and
liaison
activities
with
local
law
enforcement,
and
two
of
them
are
specifically
related
to
impaired
driving
drug
recognition,
expert
program
and
and
the
drug
evaluation
and
classification
program.
P
Well,
all
of
the
applications
come
in
in
a
particular
pool.
We
did
not
receive
to
my
knowledge
and
Ryan,
please
jump
in.
We
did
not
receive
to
my
knowledge
any
other
applications
for
these
particular
types
of
services.
P
C
C
B
A
C
C
Being
available
to
me
this
morning-
and
this
is
a
huge
contract.
C
C
K
So
the
contract
started
initially
to
answer
your
question
about
the
citizens
review
panel.
It
started
initially
for
that
purpose.
It
has
grown
over
the
years
and
we're
increasing
the
contract
at
the
request
of
Eastern
Kentucky
University
we're
transitioning
our
Public
Child
Welfare
certification
program,
which
is
a
pre-employment
program
that
prepares
social
workers
to
come
directly
into
practice.
So
they
they
get
that
training
before.
K
You
know
why
they're
still
in
college,
rather
than
having
to
take
the
training
once
they
are
employed
so
at
currently
they're
getting
that
through
Eastern
Kentucky
University
EKU
has
requested
not
to
be
that
provider
anymore,
so
they've
requested
that
we
transition
that
from
their
University.
So
that's
why
we're
moving
it
to
UK,
because
they're
wanting
to
only
focus
on
staff,
training
post
there's
some
management,
that's
required
for
this,
for
the
pcwcp
program,
and
so
we're
transitioning
it
to
a
new
University.
G
K
The
the
800
000
there
is
some.
It
includes
some
of
those
transition
costs.
400
000
of
that
is
tuition.
K
If
there
is
some
with
this
transition
pieces
to
cover
the
cost
of
tuition,
if
we
reimburse
these
students
for
tuition,
so
400
000
of
that
is
the
tuition,
the
other
there's
a
line
item
75
000,
that
is
to
launch
a
portal,
and
that
is
not
currently
included
in
what
in
our
programming.
So
it's
a
technology
piece
that
would
not
be
ongoing.
Once
we
get
this
once
we
transition
from
EKU
to
UK.
So
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
launch
where
we're
transitioning
universities.
C
K
Minutes
I've
actually
been
doing
this
they've.
We
were
moving
several
pieces
from
EKU
to
other
universities
so
from
to
a
couple
of
other
universities
as
well,
but
they
want
to
focus
primarily
on
staff
training,
so
we're
actually
moving
several
pieces
to
a
couple
of
other
universities
as
well.
So
you
may
you
may
see
me
again
if
you
want,
if
you
pull
the
contracts.
C
Well,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
just
a
little
bit
bewildered
by
then
that's
what
caught
my
attention
but
yeah
are
there
any
other
questions
comments,
if
not
entertain
a
motion
to
approve
representative
Hart
made
the
motion.
Second
of
my
co-chair
cook,
all
his
favorite
emotion
vote.
I
all
opposed
vote,
no
Kim!
Please
call
the
row.
A
C
M
B
C
Y'all
didn't
get
the
memo
that
I
don't
like
contracts
with
the
companies
from
California
in
this
one
is
particularly
disturbing
to
me
and
just
remind
you
again
that
the
reason
I
take
this
position
is
that
Xavier
Becerra,
when
he
was
Attorney
General
of
California,
passed
his
own
edict
that
state
employees
could
not
come
from
California
to
Kentucky
in
protests
of
legislation
that
we
passed
back
in
2018,
which
had
absolutely
no
impact
on
California
whatsoever,
but
he
took
that
action
so
he's
an
effective
boycotting
our
economy
in
California
continues
that
situation.
So
again.
C
M
Thank
you
chairman,
just
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
the
training
institute
on
strangulation
prevention,
they're,
a
program
out
of
the
alliance
for
Hope,
which
is
based
out
of
California.
There
are
non-profit
there.
They
were
launched
in
2011.
M
they're
developed
in
response
to
increasing
demand
for
intimate
partner,
violence
and
strangulation,
crimes
with
training
and
technical
assistance,
so
they
provide
Consulting
planning,
Support,
Services
technical
assistance
web-based
education
program,
a
directory
of
national
trainers,
so
not
all
based
out
of
California.
One
of
the
trainers
is
Dr
Smock,
who
is
based
here
in
Louisville,
Kentucky
and
experts,
and
also
a
Clearinghouse
of
all
research
related
to
domestic
violence
and
sexual
assault
strangulation
crimes.
M
The
reason
that
they
were
chosen,
what
they
provided
back
in
2021,
a
web-based
program
to
US
during
covid
that
our
prosecutors
and
other
Allied
professionals,
law
enforcement,
social
workers
responded
very
kindly
too.
They
very
much
like
the
information.
A
lot
of
the
feedback
we
received
was.
We
would
like
to
bring
these
folks
back
in
an
in-person
type
setting
to
spend
more
time
with
us.
So
that's
what
we
set
out
to
do
and
I
understand
completely
what
you're
saying
about
California.
They
are
the
pre
preeminent
trainers
on
this
area
of
the
law,
especially
their
Clearinghouse.
M
M
Unfortunately,
there
was
a
case
out
of
Northern
Kentucky
within
the
past
month,
where
a
13
year
old
was
a
victim
of
strangulation
so
because
they
have
this
National
Clearinghouse
of
research
and
because
they
draw
on
such
a
wide
pool
of
trainers
from
all
over
the
United
States,
and
because
we
do
have
this
Focus
very
much
on
this
newer
part
of
strangulation,
which
is
the
Pediatric
portion
of
it.
We
felt
like
they
were
the
best
fit
to
bring
the
best
possible
top-notch
training
to
our
folks
here
in
Kentucky,
and
that
is.
C
Know
I
think
that
I
would
respect
requests
that
the
Attorney
General
Cameron
maybe
send
a
letter
to
the
attorney
general,
the
current
attorney
general
in
California
and
say
we
got
a
difficult
to
deal
with
chairman
of
our
government
contract
Review
Committee,
who
always
wants
to
kill
California
contracts,
and
would
you
consider
repealing
your
ban
on
Kentucky
and
I?
Think
that's
a
reasonable
Quest
on
my
part
and
all
it
takes
is
a
postage
stamp
and
a
couple
of
minutes
to
do
it.
C
But
I'm
just
have
a
difficult
time
with
a
person
trying
to
impose
California
standards
on
Kentucky
and
that's
what
he's
attempting
to
do
and
I
don't
know
how
else
to
protest
that
action.
It
was
taken
to
hurt
the
economy
of
Kentucky.
It
is
minimal,
I
recognize
that,
but
then
I
think
it's
above
and
beyond
the
scope
and
responsibilities.
The
duty
of
a
state
attorney
general
to
do
that.
C
D
I
You
know
I
I
agree
with
with
Senator
Meredith
with
what
are
some
of
the
things
that
he
said,
but
you've
done
a
wonderful
job
and
I
think.
Thank
you
both
this
morning
for
coming
I.
Think
you've
done
a
wonderful
job
of
explaining
this
and
I
really
want
you
to
know
that
this
committee
appreciates
that.
Thank
you.
A
Yes,
I'd
like
to
explain
my
vote
well.
Certainly
thank
you,
sir.
Like
Senator
Meredith
I've
been
on
the
committee
and
been
we've
been
fighting
this
or
protesting
this.
Since
what
2018-2019
and
the
frustrating
thing
is,
it
seems
like
we
just
constantly
get
ignored
about
this.
We
have
no
other
Avenue
to
make
our
voices
heard
about
the
contracts
in
California.
A
There's
a
lot
of
good
companies
in
California,
but
when
they,
when
their
state,
takes
an
action
against
our
state,
my
loyalties
with
the
state
of
Kentucky,
not
with
California,
so
when
they
admit
or
intentionally
try
to
hurt
the
state
of
Kentucky
I'm,
going
to
vote
boat
down
every
California
contract
I
can't.
However,
this
is
the
second
time
I've
made
an
exception.
I
am
making
an
exception,
and
one
of
the
big
reasons
is
because
we
have
somebody
out
of
Louisville.
That
is
this.
A
Helping
facilitate
works
for
them,
so
I
will
make
the
exception
for
and
support
our
Louisville
doctor
there.
However,
at
some
point,
I
wish
the
executive
branch
other
committees,
other
constitutional
officers,
would
just
set
up.
You
know
we
need
to
make
a
voice
for
Kentucky
needs
to
to
make
a
stand
for
Kentucky
and
I.
Think
the
Attorney
General
out
in
California
was
completely
out
of
line
and
out
of
his
purview
to
do
what
he
did,
but
yet
we've
not
made
any
efforts
as
a
state
as
a
whole
to
combat
that.
C
I
vote
highs
because
I
think
representative,
Hart
and
I
both
want
to
extend
the
Olive
Branch
to
our
other
states
in
the
United
States
and
after
this
meeting
he
and
I
are
going
to
the
Middle
East
to
see
if
we
can't
negotiate
peace
there,
but
again,
I
vote
I
with
that.
The
motion
passes,
but
thank
you
for
being
here
this
morning
and
appreciate
your
testimony
with
that.
Please
remember
that
our
next
meeting
is
November.
C
Ninth,
because
the
Tuesday
is
what
is
two
election
day
it's
on
November
8th,
so
we
will
be
meeting
on
November
9th
at
9
00
a.m.
In
this
room
with
that
through
most
to
adjourn
motion,
Second
Law
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
all
right.
Thank
you
all.