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A
B
A
A
C
D
I
I
do
not
astrid
well.
Esther
masterson
is
with
me
from
procurement.
E
Yeah,
mr
chairman,
mark
carter
is
with
cabinet
for
health
and
family
services,
yeah.
A
A
A
Welcome
very
much
and
center
southworth.
I
believe
you
have
some
questions
for
them.
F
C
Oh
sorry,
much
better,
we
were
looking
for
a
digital
agency
that
specializes
in
what
we
call
enrollment
marketing,
which
is
basically
putting
butts
in
seats
right
and
who
specializes
in
higher
ed,
particularly
community
colleges,
and
this
has
kind
of
been
a
new
phenomenon
over
as
digital
advertising
has
grown
over
the
past
really
10
years.
The
people
have
become
very
specialized
in
specific
fields,
and
there
are
no
agencies
in
the
state
of
kentucky
that
have
the
specialization,
in
fact
they're
very
few
in
the
country.
So
the
agency
that
we
pick
this
is
what
they
do.
C
I
If
I
may
just
briefly
follow
up,
are
you
guys
familiar
with
el
toro
and
so
el
toro?
My
former
legislative
assistant,
has
been
there
from
the
union.
I
do
know
they
target
work
closely
with
a
lot
of
colleges
as
far
as
trying
to
reach
youth
and
parents
and
digital
marketing
and
they've
been
a
lot
of
rewards
really
from
like
all
throughout
north
america,
really
for
what
they've
done
something
we're
proud
of
here
in
kentucky
starting
here
and
be
able
to
keep
one
here.
J
A
A
Okay,
total
number
of
items
on
the
agenda
today,
206
the
amount
of
62
million,
967
thousand
dollars,
188
dollars
and
35
cents.
It's
a
large
sum
of
money.
The
next
order
of
business
is
consideration
of
the
agenda,
including
the
deferred
list,
personal
service
contract
lists,
the
psc
amendment
list,
memorandum
of
agreement
list,
memoranda
of
agreement,
amendment
list
and
the
corrections
list,
except
for
those
items
selected
for
further
review.
A
J
A
A
So,
if
attorney
general,
if
representatives
you
guys
could
come
forward
and
identify
yourself
for
the
record
and
we
will
get
started.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
so
I
would
like
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
details
about
the
settlement
and,
obviously
how
that
money
flows.
I
think
we've
heard
about
it,
but
I
need
to
see
a
little
bit
more
in
in-depth
detail
here.
G
G
payments
over
that
were
spread
out
over
amount
of
time.
The
amounts
that
this
moa
deals
with
are
some
of
those
legacy
payments
that
go
forward
from
year
over
year
that
the
legislature
has
appropriated
to
be
sent
from
the
attorney
general's
office
to
the
justice
cabinet
for
further
conveyance
to
operation
unite.
F
Mr
chairman
could
ask
a
follow-up,
so
is
this
an
annual
payment
or
you
said,
legacy
payments
over
time.
G
This
is
an
annual
payment
over
time.
The
way
that
settlement
was
structured,
there
was
a
lump
sum
payment
up
front
and
then
certain
amount
numbers
of
payments
to
be
made
afterwards
annually.
They
usually
arrive
in
about
january
of
every
year,
and
I
believe-
and
I
feel
forgive
me
if
I
don't
have
that
in
front
of
me.
I
believe
there
are
two
three
years
worth
of
payments
left
and.
D
I
H
G
Of
course,
our
cabinet
or
our
agency
isn't
directly
involved
with
that.
My
understanding
of
operation
unite
is
it
is
a
drug
prevention
and
recovery
program.
G
I
believe
it
was
started
by
congressman
hal
rogers
sometime,
maybe
around
2003,
I
think
is,
is
what
I
have
in
the
back
of
my
head,
but
I'm
not
intimately
familiar
with
the
program
other
than
that.
It
is
a
drug
prevention
and
recovery
program
that
the
legislature
has.
You
know
chosen
to
send
this
money
to
for
a
number
of
years
now.
H
Yes,
sir,
this
may
not
be
a
fair
question
for
you,
because
it's
more
of
an
operational
type
issue.
It
may
be
more
appropriate
for
the
finance
cabinet,
but
settlements
of
this
nature
are
they
routinely
determined
by
each
respective
cabinets
how
those
funds
are
going
to
be
used.
I
guess
more
specifically,
I'm
just
curious
why
this
particular
settlement-
the
funds,
didn't
go
to
the
general
fund
for
the
general
assembly
to
determine
how
they
should
be
used.
G
I
would
have
to
look
back
at
the
underlying
settlement
on
this
one,
I'm
not
I'm
not,
since
this
was
settled
long
before
we
came,
we
came
into
office
over
the
ag's
office.
I've
now
looked
at
the
specifics
of
that
settlement
agreement.
I
do
know
in
current
opioid
litigation,
one
of
the
things
that
many
of
the
opioid
defendants
are
concerned
with
is
that
large
portions,
if
not
all
of
the
money
in
the
settlement,
be
earmarked
for
abatement.
H
Yeah
I
appreciate
these
aren't
fair
questions
for
you
because
I'm
just
concerned-
and
I
guess
interested
in
knowing
the
efficacy
of
such
programs.
If
we're
doing
and
are
we
getting
results,
and
obviously
that's
not
within
the
course
of
this
contract,
you
can
ask
it.
But
mr
chair,
that's
a
concern
I
have
is
we're
proving
this,
but
we
don't
know
if
it's
effective.
G
I
would
say
in
prior
years
my
understanding
is,
the
justice
cabinet
was
much
more
closely
working
with
operation
unite
and
the
way
the
moas
were
were
done.
I
mean
again
we're
kind
of
a
conduit
for
the
money.
It
was
an
attorney
general
settlement,
so
the
settlement
check
comes
into
our
office
and
our
office
just
effectuates
that
transfer
to
the
justice
cabinet.
I
believe
the
justice
cabinet
is
probably
because
of
the
prevention
elements
of
operation
unite,
probably
somewhat
more
familiar
with
the
actual
implementation
and
everything
that
goes
on
with
that.
H
I'm
sure
they
are
just
it
concerns
me
that
you
know
within
chapter
45a.
Each
respective
cabinet
has
settlement
authority
when
we
bring
litigation
against
somebody
and
which
means
this
kind
of
precedent
that
even
if
they've
had
settlement
authority,
there's
no
guarantee
that
those
funds
will
come
back
to
the
general
assembly
for
your
marketing
for
whatever
purpose.
So
again,
that's
a
discussion
for
another
day,
but
that's
certainly
I
have
mr
chair
that
we
don't
have
control
over
those
funds.
That's
a
very
valid
point.
Senator
meredith.
G
H
I
appreciate
you
would
double
check
that
for
me.
Certainly
it
has
any
any
difference
in
terms
of
approving
this
contract
this
evening,
but
I
would
like
a
different
additional
information
on
that
and
be
able
to
track
the
authorization
for
that
and
how
it's
been
dispersed
over
the
years.
So
I
appreciate
that.
Thank
you,
mr.
F
Just
to
clarify,
I'm
looking
at
house
bill
352
from
2020,
it's
the
executive
branch
budget,
so
I
suggest
maybe
we
check
on
the
budget
and
see
if
we
didn't
put
a
line
item
in
there.
Obviously,
it's
a
little
much
to
do
on
a
phone
with
two
percent,
but
that's
where
we
could
look
first
as
to
the
efficacy
of
the
night
program,
I've
heard
mixed
reviews,
which
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
flagged
this
to
kind
of
check
into
what's
exactly
going
on.
Thank
you.
A
A
D
H
Yes,
mr
chair,
I
do
and
mr
carter
appreciate
you
joining
us
this
evening.
H
A
little
bit
bewildered
by
this
one,
I
wish
you
give
me
a
little
bit
more
background.
I
hope
you
appreciate
we
just
get
kind
of
capsule
summaries
as
to
what
these
contracts
are
going
for,
but
this
deals
with
the
obviously
the
mass
vaccination
of
the
citizens
or
commonwealth,
but
part
of
my
confusion
is
if
it's
coming
through
the
department
of
public
health.
D
Well,
senator
meredith,
just
to
give
you
a
little
background
on
it.
As
you
know,
you
know,
the
primary
issue
here
is
is
trying
to
do
the
best
job
we
can
to
get
as
many
citizens
of
the
commonwealth
facts
vaccinated
as
quickly
as
possible.
D
To
that
end,
governor
beshear
asked
secretary
gray
of
the
transportation
cabinet
to
assist
with
the
the
whole
distribution
process
and
that
I
think
was
primarily
done
because
of
secretary
gray's
background,
with
large-scale
project
management
and
and
logistics,
and
in
terms
of
both
his
business
background
and
and
the
job
that
he
is
doing
in
the
transportation
cabinet.
But
the
actual
vaccination
effort
wasn't
transferred
to
transportation.
D
It
was
more
of
secretary
gray
and
some
of
his
staff
has
been
loaned
to
the
department
of
public
health
to
help
organize
and
move
the
vaccination
effort
forward.
D
So
that's
that's
the
background
in
terms
of
how
we're
I
guess
the
organizational
approach
to
it.
If
that's
helpful,.
H
Well,
partly,
but
I
guess
I
have
to
tell
you-
I
have
a
real
aversion
to
emergency
purchase,
requests
and
retroactive
approval
of
requests,
because
I
think
it's
fraught
with
the
potential
mismanagement
and
again,
we've
been
almost
a
year
into
this
process
and
I'm
just
a
little
bit
disappointed
that
this
wasn't
anticipated
and
that
we
didn't
do
an
rfp
on
this.
H
You
know
take
a
little
bit
further.
The
the
company
that
you
that
you
rewarded
the
contract
will
be
awarded
to
was
the
same,
consulting
firm,
that
we
did
a
no-bid
contract
on
for
the
contract
contact
tracing.
H
So
there's
just
to
me
a
very
disturbing
pattern
here
that
we're
awarding
contracts
where
we're
not
submitting
rfps-
and
it
just
looks
a
little
bit
suspicious
to
me
that
the
firm
that
was
awarded
was
the
same
one.
They
got
the
previous
contract
that
was
no
bid
and
they
were
not
the
low
bid,
and
you
know
one
of
the
justifications,
for
that
was
something
about
their
communication
tools
were
more
adequate,
and
can
you
give
a
little
bit
more
clarification
to
as
to
why
this
was
awarded
to
this
particular
firm
when
it
was
not
the
low
bid.
D
Well,
in
this
particular
contract,
what
it
entails
senator
meredith
is:
the
contractor
is
assisting
the
department
with
the
overall
project
management
of
the
vaccination
effort.
So
this
goes
to
you
know
the
timeliness,
accountability
who's,
doing
what,
when
it's
due?
How
are
we
allocating
backs
vaccinate
vaccines
across
the
commonwealth
and
that
sort
of
thing
it?
It
was
a.
D
It
was
a
situation
and
the
reason
for
no
bid
was
that
it
was
a
situation
where
I
think
we
all
felt
a
great
deal
of
pressure
to
get
vaccine
out
across
the
commonwealth
as
quickly
as
we
could
and
into
the
arms
of
into
the
arms
of
our
citizens,
and
so
we
didn't
really
have
at
least
from
my
perspective.
We
didn't
have
time
to
go
through
a
full
procurement
process,
but
what
we
did
is
that
we
did.
We
did
invite
other
bidders.
D
We
did
review
the
responses
that
we
got
from
the
other
bidders.
It
wasn't
inside
of
a
normal
rfp
process
granted
that,
but
we
did
get
comparable
bids.
Deloitte
was
was
not
the
low
bid,
but
they
were
not
appreciably
higher
than
anybody
else
either,
and
you
know
they.
They
met
the
requirements
that
we
had
for
the
qualifications
and
they
were
already
here,
and
you
know
we
could.
We
could
start
virtually
as
soon
as
we
could
get
a
contract
signed
and
we
could
move
forward
with
the
vaccination
effort.
D
G
H
H
D
Well,
that
was
one
component
of
the
response.
You
know
it's.
It's
essentially
has
two
broad
components.
One
is
a
project
management,
what
we
call
a
project
management
office
and
there
are
a
number
of
tools
and
techniques
they
have
there,
as
well
as
human
resources
that
they
brought
to
bear,
and
then
the
other
aspect
of
it
is.
There
is
a
significant
communications
effort
that
goes
along
with
it,
so
outreach
to
communities
like
just
just
last
week.
D
I
did
a
a
session
with
about
100
people
in
the
murray
calloway
county
area
to
explain
to
them
what
we're
doing
with
vaccines,
get
them
ready
for
to
be
a
vaccine
site
and
and
so
on
and
part
of
the
scope
of
what
deloitte's
doing
is
they're
helping
us
prepare
for
those
meetings.
They
they
help
set
them
up.
They
prepare
the
materials
that
we
use.
H
H
We
knew
this
day
was
coming,
why
we
didn't
anticipate
it
and
do
an
rfp
for
this
particular
contract
and
again
it
bothers
me
that
the
same
firm
that
got
a
significant
consulting
agreement
with
no
rfp
back
in
earlier
in
the
year
gets
this
contract
as
well,
and
the
fact
that
that
your
people
have
familiarity
with
these
people
should
not
be
a
consideration.
I
don't
think
in
awarding
these
contracts,
so
this
is
just
a
little
bit
too
least
for
loose
for
me,
mr
chairman,
to
be
comfortable
with
it.
H
You
know
we're
charged
with
the
responsibility
of
making
sure
that
every
dollar
is
spent
as
wisely
and
efficient
as
possible
and
from
the
information
that
I
have
before
me
today.
I
can't
attest
to
that,
and
I
think
that
puts
us
in
a
very
uncomfortable
position.
That's
why
we
have
rfps
and
I
don't
really
think
this
should
qualify
as
emergency
purchase
request,
but
it
is
what
it
is,
but
I
just
don't
think
it's
appropriate
senator.
D
Senator
follower
meredith,
if,
if
I
could
comment,
one
thing
that
I
did
leave
out
is
that
we
we
want
to
bid
things
when
we
can.
The
issue
here
wasn't
familiarity
with
deloitte
so
much
as
a
speed
to
stand
up
the
office
and
to
accelerate
the
vaccine
effort
what
we
did
just
what
we
did
do,
though,
is
we
said
that
you
know
we're
only
going
to
run
this
through
june
30th
and
that
we
will
conduct
a
full
rfp
process
for
the
july
1
and
beyond.
D
Should
we
need
to
continue
these
services
beyond
june
30.?
So
just
you
know,
I
don't.
I
don't
want
you
to
think
we're
cavalier
with
this
we're
we're
trying
to
do
the
best
job
we
can
to
accelerate
the
vaccination
effort
and
we
felt
like
that
was
a
reasonable
action
to
take
to
be
able
to
do
that.
A
Mr
carter
follow
up.
I
still
I
don't
understand
why
we
would
turn
to
a
private
consultant
to
advise
on
how
to
effectuate
a
mass
vaccination
program.
This
is
a
once
in
a
hundred
year.
Situation
seems
logical
to
me
that
no
one
firm
would
have
the
expertise
on
what
this
rollout
should
look
like
and
how
it's
going
to
happen
or-
and
I
just
want
to
make
the
important
point-
I
guess-
ask
the
question:
was
it
ever
considered
to
use
the
national
guard?
A
D
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that.
I
can
only
answer
that.
I
didn't
consider
the
national
guard.
It
was
a
specialized
service.
I
actually
have
a
background
in
that
industry
and
you
know
the
typical
contractors
that
you
would
look
to
for
something
like
this
would
be
firms
like
deloitte
ernst,
young
accenture
firms
of
that
nature.
D
F
Near
southwark
yeah,
I
have
a
question,
mr
chairman
hln
consulting
151
thousand
dollars,
and
that
is
so
far
away
from
some
of
these
others.
In
fact,
then
you
got
this
other
one
here,
that's
half
the
price
of
the
deloitte
one.
Can
you
describe
were
these
partial
contracts
or
are
we
having
bells
and
whistles
or
what?
What's
the
big
difference
there
between
the
choices.
D
I
don't
have
those
in
front
of
me,
but
at
the
time
when
we
reviewed
the
contracts,
it
was
pretty
clear
that
those
contractors
didn't
understand
the
scope
of
what
we
were
looking
for.
We
had,
as
I
recall,
we
had
five
responses,
I
believe
astrid
masterson's
on
and
she
can
verify
that
three
were
on,
you
know
were
pretty
comparable
in
terms
of
scope
and
price,
and
two
were
outliers
that
were
significantly
lower,
and
when
you
read
the
co,
you
read
the
responses.
D
It
was
clear
that
they
were
not.
They
were
not
qualified
to
do
the
work.
F
Follow
up,
mr
chairman,
one
last
question
on
this:
so
the
list
of
seven
vendors
that
got
the
initial
email
is
that
a
list
that
you
typically
use
for
all
like
all
types
of
contracts
that
you
need
emergency,
quick.
You
know
here's
a
list
in
our
back
pocket
of
the
seven
people
we
know,
or
is
this
kind
of,
depending
on
the
type
of
projects
like
how?
How
does
that
list
of
seven?
F
Where
is
it
stored?
And
what
all
do
we
use
it
for.
E
Is
so
I'm
astrid
masterson
with
the
cabinet
for
health
and
family
services?
The
list
is
where
we
pulled
on
seven.
It
was
vendors
that
we
had
done
work
with
previously
in
the
consulting
field
and
that
we
knew
of
immediately
to
be
able
to
contact
outright.
A
B
J
H
I'm
voting
eye
on
this
contract
now
because
I
want
to
because
I
don't
want
to
be
accused
of
slowing
down
the
and
the
the
coveted
relief
effort,
but
until
you
I
don't
like
this
contract,
I
don't
like
the
process.
I
think
it
should
have
been
anticipated.
H
I
appreciate
that
mr
carter
hasn't
had
a
lot
of
experience
with
this
committee,
but
please
note
that
I
don't
like
retroactive
approval
contracts.
I
don't
like
emergencies
unless
they're
truly
emergency.
I
don't
think
it's
just
this
classification.
H
This,
I
think,
is
disrespectful
this
committee
and
the
legislature,
because
it
doesn't
allow
us
to
do
the
job
that
we're
been
assigned
the
responsibility
to
do
so.
I'm
just
very
disappointed
that
we're
having
to
deal
with
this,
particularly
when
this
should
have
been
anticipated
months
ago,
but
I
vote
mr
chair.
A
A
L
Point
out
for
this
first
item
that
has
been
pulled.
Those
folks
are
joining
us
virtually
from
the
kentucky
center
for
school
safety.
D
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Are
we
doing
13
separately
from
14
or
rolling
together
here,
13?
First,
okay,
I'm
on
13,
then
I
just
wanted
to
get
a
little
bit
of
background
on
this
training,
the
national
speakers
and
supplies
trying
to
get.
I
think
I
have
an
idea
of
what
we're
doing
here,
but
what
exactly
are
we
training
on
and
what
kind
of
national
speakers
are
we
talking
about.
D
Okay,
let
me
kick
the
ball
off
on
this
one:
real,
quick,
the
kentucky
center
for
school
safety
has
sponsored
co-sponsored
the
kentucky
council
for
children
with
behavioral
disabilities
for
about
the
last
18
years.
They
have
a
conference
every
two
years
in
our
state
and,
of
course,
school
safety
plays
a
big
part
of
this
behavioral
disability
issues
as
well,
but
with
us
we
have
the
president
of
the
group
tracy
francis,
who
is
prepared
to
answer
your
questions
on
that
tracy.
Would
you
please
answer
her
questions.
I
Yes,
I
will
answer
so
the
cost
of
the
conference.
Actually,
we
are,
we
are
using
the
funds
to
pay
for
presenters
only
we,
the
kyccbg
group
we
have
paid
for
the
cost
of
the
presentation.
I
As
far
as
the
zoom
platform
that
we
are
using
out
of
our
organization,
the
speakers,
the
national
speakers,
they
are
all
the
speakers
are
vetted
speakers
that
we
have
worked
directly
with
the
co-ops
within
the
educational
regions
in
kentucky,
and
we
have
worked
with
the
office
of
behavioral
health
and
we
also
work
directly
with
some
people
from
kde
to
identify
those
needs
within
our
districts
and
within
our
state
and
then
presenters
that
have
presented
nationally
that
have
actually
been
gone
to
and
someone
has
attended
the
presentation
or
vetted
it
through
other
means
such
as
media,
and
we
we
pull
them
in
based
on
the
vetting
process.
I
So
the
national
speakers
that
we
are
bringing
in
there's
amy
cunningham.
Actually
the
virtual
behavior
institute,
is
kicking
off
in
30
minutes
and
she
is
the
first
presenter
on
there.
So
she
is
there
we
have
so
far
up
to.
We
have
10
confirmed
speakers,
and
the
cost
of
some
of
these
speakers
were
covered
with
other
partnerships
that
we
could.
F
Contact
no
further
questions
on
number
13,
mr
chairman,
all
right.
F
Okay,
well,
I
just
wanted
to
get
it
just
an
overview
since
they
were
here
on
the
14..
Okay,
you
know
sure
testing.
It
says,
general
100,
I
don't
remember
I.
There
was
one
of
these
that
we
got
mixed
up.
That
was
actually
federal
funds.
I
don't
know
if
this
is
that
one
or
not,
I
might
be
mixed
up.
L
L
There
was
a
period
of
time
after
the
first
of
the
year
where
we
thought
costs
could
be
incurred
and
that's
why
this
contract
was
issued
with
a
retroactive
start
date.
Should
that
have
happened,
I'm
pleased
to
report
that
during
that
time
no
costs
have
been
incurred
on
this
contract
and
in
fact
yesterday
we
had
a
conversation
with
the
vendor
that
we
do
not
anticipate
any
costs
to
the
university
in
the
foreseeable
future.
A
A
Okay,
moving
forward
next
item
on
the
pulled
list
are
with
health
and
family
services.
It's
item
number
17
on
the
routine
psc
green
list
and
items
45
through
67
on
the
psc
amendment
ivory
list
we're
going
to
go
ahead.
We
want
to
talk
about
these
as
a
group.
We're
not
going
to
talk
about
these
individually
unless
a
member
needs
to
do
that,
but
if
they
could
identify
themselves
for
the
record,
please
I
believe
you're
virtually.
I
A
H
Well,
certainly-
and
thank
you,
commissioner
lee
for
joining
us
this
evening-
obviously
I'll
cut
my
attention.
First
is
under
the
contract
amount.
It
says
zero.
I
wish
we
could
have
more
contracts
like
this,
but
can
you
can
you
explain
to
me
what
the
payment
mechanism
is?
Obviously
they
aren't
doing
this
for
free.
I
H
How
many,
how
many
firms
responded
to
your
rfp
for
this
service.
I
I
would
have
to
double
check,
but
I
think
about
five
or
six.
I
can't
remember
exactly
how
many
responses
we
had
and
I'm
not
sure
if
miss
matterson
is
still
on
the
still
on
the
meeting,
invite
and
if
she
can
respond
to
that.
E
I
E
H
E
Oh
sorry,
meredith,
I'm
on.
I
believe
that
there
was
seven.
E
Sorry,
I'm
getting
some
feedback
finance
camp
cabinet
did
run
the
procurement,
but
I
believe
there
was
seven
responses.
If
memory
is
correct,.
I
I
We
had
two
protests,
but
they
were
subsequently
dropped,
but
this
provider,
this
this
contractor,
was
chosen
because
they
sport
higher
on
the
overall
contract,
even
in
the
orals
presentation,
because
we
did
do
orals
with
the
top
three
just
to
make
sure
that
we
covered
all
bases
and
that
the
individuals
coming
into
this
was
were
very
aware
of
the
importance
of
this
project,
considering
that
it
is
stemmed
from
senate
bill
50-
and
this
is
the
very
first
of
its
kind
in
the
nation.
I
In
a
medicaid
program,
we
are
the
first
to
to
mandate
that
the
mcos
use
a
single
pdm
in
which
we
administer
the
contract.
We
set
the
rates
and
they
have
to
follow
the
rules
that
we
outline
in
the
in
the
contract.
H
Which,
from
previous
committee
testimonies
that
you
and
I
both
participated
in
very
excited
about
this
development,
I
guess
the
last
question
I
have
for
you
is:
I
thought
that
the
full
component
of
senate
bill
50
would
not
be
implemented
until
july
first.
So
why
is
this
a
january
to
december
contract.
I
I'd
have
to
look
at
the
day.
Is
it
january
1st
2021,
because
we've
started
the
process
right
now
we
have
brought
them
on
board
now,
while
they
are
on
board,
they
are
not
processing
claims.
So
the
actual
payments
for
this
contract
will
begin
when
they
start
processing
claims
for
the
mcos.
I
Yes
and
we're
we're
also
pulling
in
the
managed
care
organizations
for
to
make
sure
that
all
these
systems
are
aligned
properly
again,
we
know
how
important
this
is.
We
know
that
all
eyes
are
on
us
and
we
want
to
do
this
correctly.
If
you
remember,
I
just
you
know
in
january,
we
did
move
to
the
single
preferred
drug
list
and
we
had
a
few
hiccups
in
that
got.
Those
straightened
out,
I
believe,
pretty
quickly,
and
we
want
this
to
go
off
if
we
can
without
any
hiccups
whatsoever.
I
So
we
are
definitely
looking
at
every
aspect.
We're
going
to
be
doing
some
testing
making
sure
that
that
when
we
start
with,
we
don't
want,
we
don't
want
anyone
to
lose
a
medication
or
a
delay
in
their
medication.
Once
we
implement
this
process
well,.
H
I
I'd
have
to
go,
look
back
and
look
at
their
responses,
because
there
was
a
requirement
that
the
vendor
that
we
select
would
have
to
have
a
business
and
doing
medicaid
business
pbm
in
other
states
or
with
other
like
agencies,
and
this
in
this
company,
I
believe,
was
doing
business
in
several
other
states.
But
I
can
get
that
specific
information
for
you
and
give
send
it
back
to
you,
senator
meredith,
if
you,
if
you'd
like
me,
to
tell
you
that,
yes,.
H
A
Okay,
to
keep
just
to
keep
things
clear
here
and
separate
we're
gonna
have
to
do
separate
motions,
so
this
is
just
for
simply
before
we
move
on
to
45
to
52
and
53
267.
Is
there
a
motion
to
approve
item
17
on
the
routine
recording
list
motion
by
representative
bowling?
Is
there
a
second
second
by
representative
mentor?
Madam
clerk?
Please
call
the
role.
B
J
A
Yes,
motion
carries
okay.
Now
we're
going
to
move
on
to
the
this
is
going
to
be
45
through
67
we're
going
to
talk
about
those
as
one
group
and
I've
got
two
very
probably
very
obvious
questions
here,
but
I
want
to
ask
to
start
this
off.
Why
was
it
inadvertently
not
filed
and
the
follow-up
on
that
is?
This
goes
back
to
july,
1
of
2018,
when
kovid
really
only
was
back
to
march
of
2019.
If
I
could
just
get
some
clarification
on
that,
please.
N
They
are
agreements
that
multiple
state
agencies
can
utilize
and
so
finance.
Let
these
let
these
particular
contracts
at
the
time
they
were
not
filed.
But
since
that
time,
as
as
our
letter
explains,
ops
has
developed
a
process
where
they
are
filing.
These
particular
agreements
with
the
government
contract
review
committee
and,
in
fact,
are
moving
to
a
system
where
they
will
automatically
be
followed
by
the
emar
system.
N
Senator
meredith,
you
know,
obviously
that
was
done
prior
to
this
administration,
and
so
unfortunately
I
can't
give
you
too
many
details
on
that.
But
when
ops
looked
into
it,
we
did
realize
that
they
were
not
filed
and
have
moved
moved
to
correct
that.
Since
that
point.
H
This
may
sound
like
a
rhetorical
question,
but
what's
a
master
agreement,
how
do
you,
how
do
you
define
white,
gets
purchased
under
a
master
agreement
and
what
doesn't
so.
N
N
It's
it's
generally
a
request
by
the
agency,
if
they,
if
they
want
or
if
it's
a
contract
that
makes
sense
to
be
to
be
utilized
by
by
multiple
agencies,
finance
will
we'll
let
those
contracts
as
master
agreements.
N
Yes,
the
45
a
contracting
process
is,
is
the
same.
N
Senator
meredith,
it
is,
it
is
not
again
that
term
just
arose
out
of
the
emar
system,
is
just
a
term
in
that
system.
You
know
this,
for
instance,
this
is
just
these
contracts.
Here
are
just
contracts
for
professional
services,.
H
N
Again,
master
agreements
and
and
contracts
that
can
be
utilized
by
by
multiple
agencies
are
let
by
finance
where
individual
agency,
personal
service
contracts
are
are
let
by
the
individual
agency,
cannot
be
utilized
by
other
agencies.
H
N
H
N
So
I
I'm
not
sure
about
that.
Honestly,
I
haven't
thought
much
about
that.
But
finance
is
the
agency
that
procures
you
know,
services
and
goods
for
the
entire
commonwealth.
N
Senator
your
role
is
set
forth
by
45a.
I
think
it's
795.
H
N
Senator
it's
it's
my
understanding
that
that
these
master
agreements
or
or
multiple
agency
contracts
were
filed
before
the
committee,
because
they
represent
services
that
are
under
the
jurisdiction
of
the
committee.
J
I
just
have
I
I
just
know
you
know
items
53-67,
it's
all
dealing
with
contract
tracing
and
we
we
discussed
this
at
our
june
9th
meeting,
and
I
would
just
can
you
give
me
some
fur
further
information
how,
with
the
contract
tracing
how's
it
going?
I
mean
the
fact
that
are
we
using
these
funds?
Are
these
funds
being
used
to
to
do
contract
tracing
because
you're
asking
for
an
extension
or
are
they
just
sitting
somewhere
right
now.
D
D
That
program
continues
into
this
year,
and
these
are
just
extensions
of
those
previous
contracts,
so
you
know,
but
the
the
contact
racing
effort
and
the
disease
investigation
component
of
it
are
ongoing.
D
F
Thank
you.
I
wanted
to
go
back
to
the
contact
tracing
question.
It
seems
to
me
months
ago
we
heard
reports
and
I
think
jefferson
county
maybe
felt
like
they
were
getting
somewhere
with
their
contact
tracing,
but
most
other
public
health
departments,
at
least
in
the
news,
had
pretty
much
put
their
hands
in
the
air
and
said
we
have
no
clue
how
this
thing's
moving
around
and
I
mean
I'm
not
sure
anybody
does
and
they
said
we
they
kind
of
gave
up
on
contact
tracing.
F
D
D
The
but
the
con,
but
it
is
true
that
the
contact
tracing
component
of
the
program
was
put
under
extreme
stress,
with
the
spike
in
the
in
the
spread
of
the
disease
in
november
december
time
frame,
and
what
we
did
we
had
to
do
is
we
had
to
make
some
decisions
around
how
we
would
prioritize
those
folks
that
we
did
that
we
actually
had
a
contact,
tracer
call
and
talk
to
so.
D
So
you
have
to
complete
that
portion
of
the
contact
tracing
program
in
the
in
a
perfect
world.
Then
what
part
of
that
process
would
be
to
gather
the
list
of
contacts
from
that
person
that
tested
positive
and
then
a
contact
tracer
enough?
Another
staff
member
would
call
each
of
those
individuals,
and
you
know
if
they
were
subject
to
an
exposure
that
would
require
them
to
have
to
quarantine.
D
Then
that
person
would
talk
to
them
about
the
requirements
for
quarantining
and
talk
to
them.
About
any
any
personal
needs
they
might
have
during
that
time
period,
what
happened
with
the
surge
in
the
disease
is
that
we
had
to
say
that
you
know,
for
we
would
only
try
to
contact
the
contacts
that
were
at
the
highest
risk
of
exposure.
So
if
you
know
maybe
they
had
other
health
issues,
they
were
elderly
those
kinds
of
things
where
we
would
actually
make
make
an
actual
contact
with
them
for
everyone
else.
D
So,
but
so
you
know,
if
you
heard
reports
that
people
didn't
get
called
by
the
health
department
or
reports
from
the
health
department
that
they
were
having
trouble,
keeping
up
with
the
contact.
Raising
that
that's
why
that
was
happening.
M
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
to
follow
up
on
some
of
the
contract
tracing.
I'm
new
to
this
committee
was
not
here
back
during
june,
so
I'd
say
some
of
these
are
questions
you
answered
then,
but
questions.
Nonetheless,
I
would
like
to
know
the
answers
to,
but
a
total
of
15
firms
were
awarded
contracts
and
it's
you
know
a
little
bit
under
106
million
dollars
total.
Why
did
you
decide
to
go
with
15?
What
went
behind
the
decision
making
on
that.
D
Well,
I
I
have
not
been
in
front
of
this
committee
before
on
this
topic.
This
these
contracts
were
actually
led
before
I
came
on
board.
Astrid
masterson
is
on
with
me,
but
I
will
give
you
my
understanding
and
she
she
can
fill
in
the
planks,
but
essentially
the
contracts
again.
D
This
was
at
the
start
of
the
pandemic
when
there
was
a,
as
you
well
recall,
I'm
sure
quite
a
bit
of
concern
about
the
the
disease
and
how
fast
it
was
propagating,
and
so
you
know
in
order
to
stand
up
the
contact
tracing
program
that
was
recommended
by
the
cdc
in
the
white
house
coronavirus
task
force.
We
felt
we
needed
staff
and
the
best
way
to
do
that
was
to
utilize
staffing
agencies,
because
the
these
people
would
be
deployed
across
the
commonwealth.
They
weren't
going
to
be
in
a
call
center
in
frankfurt.
D
I
think
we
probably
ended
up
primarily
dealing
with
you
know
predominantly
with
probably
about
a
half
a
dozen,
but
there
there
may
have
been
15
that
actually,
you
know
employed
staff
and
had
an
arrangement
with
with
the
cabinet,
but
that
that's
hopefully
that's
explanatory.
M
Okay,
just
a
quick
follow-up,
if
I
may,
of
those
15
contracts,
13
of
them
were
between
7
million
36
000
and
7
million
151
000.
There
were
two
contracts
that
fell
outside
those
ranges.
M
One
was
for
five
million
two
hundred
eighteen
thousand
another
for
eight
million
five
hundred
and
five
thousand
they're
for
the
same
time
periods-
and
I
just
wondered
you
know
when
you
see
13
that
are
all
right
there,
it's
very
very
similar,
and
then
you
see
two
that
are
higher
or
lower
just
wondering
the
differences
there
and
the
the
line
item
number
60,
that's
the
one
that
was
eight
million
five
hundred
five
thousand
atrium
staffing,
llc
and
then
item
number
65,
ntt
data
inc.
M
That
was
five
million
two
hundred
and
eighteen
thousand.
So
that's
my
question.
E
Sure
this
is
astrid
and
I
might
be
able
to
answer
it,
but
I'm
gonna
tag
in
tom
stratton's
on
here
as
well.
When
we
set
up
these
contracts
for
administrative
wise,
we
did
just
a
flat
a
amount
to
each
of
the
vendors,
so
we
could
administratively
get
people
hired
very
quickly
and
get
them
out
into
the
field
in
regards
to
the
difference
on
it.
Tom
are
you?
Can
you
speak
to
that.
O
Yes,
I
can.
This
is
tom
stratton,
I'm
also
with
chfs,
so
the
difference
on
the
two,
the
first
one
being
eight
million
five.
I
think
I
had
it
here
in
front
of
me.
What
I'm
that
was
a
vendor.
That's
been
used
quite
a
bit
the
services
there
you
go
atrium
the
they
just
happened
to
place
a
lot
of
people,
probably
in
a
lot
of
different
areas
of
the
state
and
as
they
got
towards
the
end
of
the
calendar
year,
they
were,
they
were
running
short
on
the
contract
amount.
O
O
A
lot
of
these
are
approaching
nowhere
near
that
half
or
less
in
some
cases
the
one
for
five
point
something
for
ntt,
so
that
one
was
they
when
we
renewed
these
to
go
through
the
end
of
june.
That
was
the
last
vendor
in
these
large
company,
and
I
guess
you
know,
through
whatever
processes
they
have,
that
was
the
last
vendor
who
signed
and
forecasting
ahead
by
their
usage.
O
There
was
no
need
to
make
that
one
seven
million,
that's
the
only
reason
is
we
didn't
predict
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
that
we're
going
to
need
to
use
that
much
money.
So
that's
the
only
reason
that
one's
lower,
because
they
came
in
probably
two
to
three
weeks
on
the
signature
as
the
rest
of
the
vendors.
So
that's
the
only
reason
that
one's
lower.
A
Any
further
questions
or
comments
on
45
through
67.
A
It's
our
motion
to
through
motion
to
consider
these
contracts
motion
by
representative
minor.
Is
there
a
second.
H
A
I'm
going
to
vote
yes
on
this,
but
I'm
going
to
need
an
education
on
master
agreements.
Look
looked
like
a
convenient
way
to
bypass
our
committee
here
and
it's
something
that
I
really
want
to
look
for
and
get
an
education
on,
but
I'm
going
to
record
a
yes
vote
on
this
today.
H
A
I
My
name
is
linda
bridwell
and
I'm
the
executive
director
of
the
kentucky
public
service
commission
and
with
me
is
karen
wilson.
Karen,
are
you
on
I'm
on
hi
karen
wilson,
I'm
the
legislative
affairs
director
for
the
public
service
commission.
H
I
Yes,
yes,
we
we
we're
looking
for
a
consultant
to
not
only
assist
in
our
staff
in
reviewing
any
applications
for
net
metering,
but
also
to
make
sure
that
we
are
looking
at
the
best
practices
across
the
country.
I
Well,
it's
obviously
a
very
it's
a
very
unique
skill
set
we
put
an
rfp
out
according
to
the
procurement
code,
we
ended
up
getting
two
responses
back.
This
one
was
the
response
that
was
going
to
not
only
be
able
to
help
us
analyze,
but
also
train
our
staff
on
how
to
evaluate
this,
the
upcoming
net
metering
options
and
put
the
methods
in
place.
So
that
was
why
we
selected
this
as
part
of
our
selection
process.
If.
I
E
E
Yes,
that
was
predated
you're
coming
to
the
psc.
E
F
I
State
of
kentucky
most
were
more
national.
E
But
I
can
double
check
on
on
how
many
were
actually
from
from
kentucky.
H
I
appreciate
knowing
that
and
I'll
just
share
with
you,
mr
chair.
This
is
just
one
of
those
things
that
much
like
retroactive
approvals,
no
big
contracts,
so
I've
got
a
problem
with
contracts
with
companies
from
california,
because
you
may
recall
a
couple
three
years
ago
the
attorney
general
of
california
prohibited
any
state
employee
to
come
to
kentucky,
and
I
just
don't
know
from
philosophical
standpoint
why
we
want
to
build
up
the
economy
of
california
when
they
don't
cooperate
with
commonwealth
of
kentucky.
So.
A
A
J
B
A
A
Motion
carries
thank
you
for
being
with
us
here
today.
Thank
you.
Okay.
Moving
to
the
next
item
on
the
pulled
list,
it's
with
the
legislative
research
commission,
their
numbers
27
on
the
routine
psc
green
list
and
number
four
on
the
10
000
and
under
goldenrod
list.
L
A
I
am
okay,
senator
southworth,
you
want
to
start
on
number
27.
F
Yes,
I
want
to
find
out-
and
I
understand
I
understand
the
retroactive
I've
been
in
this
situation
before
myself,
as
that
staff
person
trying
to
make
this
decision.
I
understand
the
hourly
rate
issue
same
explanation.
F
I
also
understand
the
idea
of
sole
source,
but
my
real
question
is:
how
did
this
one
particular
firm
is?
Do
we
have
a
list
of
people
we
kind
of
go
to,
or
how
do
we
just
pull
them
out
of
a
hat
or
what?
How
do
we
decide
that?
Because
this
is
obviously
a
big
and
important
issue
and
how
you
pick
one
person
out
of
a
whole
state
is
my
question.
L
So
I
am
not
on
the
impeachment
committee.
It
would
be
inappropriate
for
me
to
to
attend,
participate
or
listen
in
on
their
their
executive
sessions.
L
But
my
understanding
of
the
state
of
affairs
is
that
the
the
the
rules
that
the
impeachment
committee
committee
adopted
to
govern
its
operations,
provided
them
the
ability
to
retain
outside
counsel
and
this
individual.
This
lawyer
from
this
law
firm
was
the
individual
that
committee
determined
had
the
the
length
and
breadth
of
knowledge
necessary
to
provide
them
guidance
as
they
consider
facts,
options
and
courses
of
action
as
they
move
forward.
L
So
occasionally
I
do
what
you
tell
me
to
do
just
so
you
I
keep
you
guessing
about
what
I'm
actually
up
to
and
my
general
counsel
and
I
greg
woosley
who's
in
attendance
with
us.
Here.
We
received
a
directive
from
representative
nemes,
chairman
of
the
impeachment
committee,
that
this
was
the
individual
that
the
committee
had
identified
to
be
their
counsel.
L
A
H
Jay,
I
just
want
some
points
because
I
didn't
pull
this
contract
so.
L
Absolutely
I
I
always
enjoyed
representative
lee's
perspective.
Yes,.
H
And
I
appreciate
that
you
still
relatively
new
to
your
position,
but
just
as
a
way
to
make
your
job
easier
in
the
future
and
there's
nothing
in
statute
that
requires
this.
There's
no
administrative
rig,
but
what
I've
encouraged
people
to
do
when
you
know
you're
going
to
have
a
retroactive
approval
is
let
us
know
at
the
time
that
occurs
rather
than
you
know.
H
Sometimes
it's
two
or
three
months
after
the
fact
it
just
gives
us
a
heads
up
and-
and
I
think,
heads
off
the
possibility
of
the
contract
even
being
pulled,
but
my
aversion
to
retroactive
approvals
is.
H
It
looks
like
somebody's
trying
to
pull
something
over
on
us
and
sorry,
I'm
just
suspicious
of
nature,
so
not
criticizing
it
just
suggesting
that
in
the
future,
if
you
have
a
retroactive
approval,
you
know
what's
going
to
happen,
communicate
that
to
us
as
soon
as
possible,
so
that
we're
aware
of
it
and
that
allows
us
to
do
our
job
allows
us
to
move
forward
fair
enough
senator.
Thank
you,
sir
appreciate
it.
A
A
Yes,
motion
carries
not
off
the
hook,
yet
we're
going
to
move
on
to
number
four
on
the
goldenrod
list.
K
A
L
It
is
my
understanding
of
the
state
of
the
affairs.
Is
that
speaker,
osborne
determined
that
he
would
like
someone
with
appropriate
credentials
to
examine
protocol
covet
related
protocols
that
the
lrc
had
adopted
agency-wide,
but
also,
in
particular,
modifications.
L
He
was
considering
or
had
implemented
related
to
house
operations,
and
he
identified
dr
mckinney
with
the
university
of
louisville
as
someone
with
a
unique
ability
to
pro
to
look
at
what
what
we
were
considering,
what
we
were
up
to
and
to
be
able
to
provide
him
some
some
context
and
an
overview
of
how
that
fit
into
best
practices
that
that
he
was
aware
of
of
other
institutions
that
similar
to
us
that
would
be
having
folks
coming
in
and
out
of
business
in
and
out
of
their
business
or
or
in
and
out
of
their
place
of
place
of
work.
L
So
dr
mckinney
performed
that
for
the
speaker
and
as
as
I
understand
that
was
a
key
component
in
in
his
considerations
as
they
developed
the
thought
process
of
how
we
were
going
to
try
to
do
this.
L
H
Mr
chair
forward,
mr
hearts
leaves
the
table
just
want
to
commend
you
on
on
the
job
you've
done
jay.
I
know
this
hasn't
been
easy,
putting
all
this
together
and
trying
to
make
it
a
safe
environment
for
us
as
possible.
So
I
appreciate
the
efforts
you
all
put
into
this.
I'm
sure
it's
been
a
monumental
task
for
you.
L
I
I
appreciate
that
I
am
blessed
with
many
smart,
dedicated
people
and
we
are
all
committed
to
being
here
so
that
you
all
can
do
what
you
need
to
do
to
represent
your
constituents
advocate
for
bills
or
policy
positions
that
you
want.
So
I
I
will
say
thank
you
not
on
my
behalf,
but
all
the
all
the
people
who
every
day
come
in
here
and
and
and
take
this
seriously
and
do
the
sorts
of
things
that
they
need
to
do
to
be
here
to
serve.
You.
H
Well,
there's
a
lot
of
planning
went
into
this
jay,
it's
obvious
and
to
be
prepared
for
us
when
we
come
into
session
the
way
you
have
been.
I
appreciate
the
effort,
so
please
extend
my
appreciation
to
you
to
your
people
as
well.
Well,.
L
I'm
I'm
also
pleased
that
we
don't
have
to
look
at
the
one
one
screen
that
worked
in
here
a
couple
of
times
over
the
summer.
So
so
I
I
once
again
I
will,
I
will
say
thank
you,
but
but
not
on
my
behalf,
but
on
everyone
else's
behalf.
A
E
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
I'm
looking
at
number
37
here
and
it
says
that
we're
providing
funds
for
women's
health
services,
one
of
which
is
family
planning
and
I'd
like
to
get
a
little
more
detail
on
what
all
services
you
all
provide.
F
M
Thank
you
added
some
questions
on
item
38
and
39.
when
you're
talking
about,
I
think
it
has
to
do
with
cova
testing.
I
think
it's
the
temperature
temperature
check
stations
and
how
much
are
we
paying
folks
an
hour
on
that
you
know:
do
we
have
an
average
kind
of
figure?
P
P
P
P
I
think
that's
that's
a
placeholder
to
hopefully
ensure
that
we,
the
staff
that
may
be
hired
to
do
this
temporary
service.
That
would
cover
that
cost.
M
E
Yeah
or
mike,
this
is
ask
for
masters,
and
we
do
have
commissioners
and
on
and
troy
robinson
from
finance
cabinet
on
and
they're
overseeing
the
program
they
might
be
able
to
provide
those
specific
numbers
for
you.
P
Astra,
this
is
troy
finance.
I
So
we
have
a
total
of
18
employees
performing
those
functions
right
now,.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
welcome
troy
good
to
see
you
again.
I
have
a
question
about
the
temperature
checks.
The
information
that
they
collect
is
that
monitored
or
recorded.
As
far
as
like,
okay,
we
checked
103
people
and
their
temperatures
were
above
or
below
whatever
we're
looking
for.
Is
that
information
that
we're
collecting.
I
In
certain
instances
there
were
numbers
of
temperature
checks
that
were
taken,
but
not
the
actual
temperatures
that
were
taken.
So
I
don't
know
if
it
answers
your
question
or
not,
but
that's
how
we
had
to
look
at
this.
F
I
F
I
A
F
I'm
going
to
vote
pass
because
I'm
sitting
here
with
three
different
ones
and
I've
got
different
feelings
about
all
of
it
and
temperature
checks.
This
isn't
even
about
this
committee
per
se,
but
I
just
think
I
just
have
a
real
problem.
As
I
walk
in
the
door,
I
think
it's
unconstitutional
they're
stopping
legislators
on
their
way
to
session.
Take
temperatures.
J
A
Yes,
motion
carries.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here.
Department
of
agriculture.
Welcome.
Are
you
with
us
today,
next
item's
on
the
polled
list
with
the
department
of
ag
numbers,
41
and
42?
This
is
on
the
routine
moa
the
pink
list.
If
they
could,
please
identify
themselves
for
the
record.
K
Hi
good
evening
chairman,
I'm
melanie
mcpartlin,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
the
office
of
marketing
for
the
department
of
agriculture
and
I
believe
we
still
have
chad
smith
on
as
well
I'll.
Let
him
introduce
himself.
A
Okay,
welcome
senator
southworth.
I
believe
you
have
questions
on
these.
F
K
Yes,
senator
we
have
so
we
have
two
different
programs
that
are
on
these
contracts.
The
first
one
is
called
our
point
of
purchase
program.
It's
a
marketing
program,
so
the
vendors
for
that
program
would
be
farm
families.
They
have
to
demonstrate
that
they
have
farm
impact
and
we
cost
share
50
of
their
marketing
efforts,
provided
that
they
use
the
kentucky,
proud
logo.
So
for
that
one
it
would
be
farm
families
in
kentucky
and
they
are
required
to
be
part
of
the
kentucky
broad
program
for
the
second
piece:
that's
the
buy
local
program.
K
The
vendors
on
that
would
be
restaurants
that
have
demonstrated
their
commitment
to
buying
from
our
farmers
in
kentucky,
and
so
they
submit
reimbursement
off
of
those
purchases.
There
are
in
both
programs.
There
are
yearly
and
lifetime
limits,
but
with
the
buy
local
program,
it's
an
incentive
program
to
hopefully
foster
relationships
between
our
farmers
and
encourage
them
to
overcome
any
cost.
Prohibition-
if
you
know
if
local
food
is
more
expensive,
get
to
know
them
start
buying
their
food
and
then
incorporate
that
into
their
menus
long
term.
F
J
B
A
A
Q
A
Q
Sure
so,
just
a
little
bit
of
history
with
this
contract,
so
they
just
you
can
see
from
the
description
that
it
it
sort
of
discusses
the
citizens
review
panel
and-
and
it
I
don't
know
if
you
and
as
far
as
the
the
modification
and
and
it's
a
little
bit,
this
contract
used
to
flow
through
the
east
eastern
kentucky
university
and
so
and
prior
to
that
there
was
a
contract
with
the
university
of
kentucky.
For
this.
Q
Just
what
you're,
seeing
here
with
the
citizens
review
panel
description,
and
so
this
past
year
we
broke
out
a
lot
of
the
work
that
the
university
of
kentucky
was
doing
from
the
eku
contract,
which
was
being
subcontracted
with
them
to
save
on
some
of
the
administrative
costs
that
we
were
funneling
through
eku,
and
so
we
did
a
modifica.
We
broke
that
out
and
pulled
that
out
of
that
contract
and
contracted
directly
with
uk,
and
so
they
have
a
training
resource
center
themselves
and
that
we're
doing
a
lot
of
work
through.
Q
So
what
you're?
Seeing
for
the
the
spanish
translation
program
and
the
kinship
navigator
is
some
of
that
work
that
we're
contracting
with
them
now?
They've
been
already
doing
the
kinship
navigator
program
for
a
couple
of
years
now,
and
so
we
that's
the
federal
grant
that
we
received
so
that's
actually
100
federal,
funded
and
because
of
the
consolidated
appropriation
act
that
just
passed
and
then
and
this
translation
program
is
really
a
result
of
wanting
to
translate
our
foster
parent
curriculum
into
spanish,
which
we
have
never
done
historically.
A
A
A
Welcome
you
know:
we've
got
almost
15
million
dollars
here
and
I
wanted
to
talk
about.
It
says:
provide
funds
to
reimburse
university
of
kentucky
for
community-based
covid19
test
on
non-insured
non-medicaid
eligible
citizens
of
the
commonwealth,
and
if
we
could
just
get
an
explanation
on
that.
P
Yeah,
so
so
that
language
was
it's
in
there
incorrectly,
it's
really
for
any
anybody
wanting
a
test.
They
can
schedule
and
receive
a
test,
so
it
really
that
was
lanes,
I
think,
was
put
in
the
first
round
of
the
contract
that
later
got
taken
out
because
of
its
inappropriateness.
P
F
I
just
wanted
to
get
a
clarification
where
it
says:
federal
and
general
funds.
Back
to
my
question,
like
I
asked
earlier,
the
cares
funding.
That's
all
federal,
not
providing
everything
and,
what's
the
general
part
of
this
so.
P
Yeah,
so
this
contract
started
back
in
september
and
it
was
funded
with
cares
exclusively
with
cares
chronic
relief
funds.
So
so
that
happened
through
december
30th.
The
services
were
still.
We
want
to
continue
those
services
with
community-based
testing
and
we
were
hopeful
that
another
round
of
stimulus
was
was
occurring.
We
just
didn't
know
exactly
when
and
and
how
much
so
we
had
moved
forward
thinking
that
we
may
try
to
identify
some
state
funds
just
support
for
a
day
or
two
until
we
could
have
that
coveted
funding.
P
New
round
of
stimulus
come
about
so
what
happened?
There
was
state
funds
placed
on
one
of
the
modifications
we
were
trying
to
push
it
through,
but
later
with
that
cobit
funding
it
was
tightened.
At
the
same
time,
we
retracted
the
the
plan
for
any
general
fund
used
to
then
insert
federal,
so
federal
care,
crf
corona
russian
refunds
through
december
from
december
31st
ford.
It's
now
elc
federal
code
relief
through
the
it's
through
the
is
through
the
coronavirus
response
and
relief
funding,
the
one
that
was
approved
december,
the
28th.
C
A
I'll
entertain
a
motion
to
approve
motion
by
senator
meredith
seconded
by
representative
mentor.
Madam
clerk,
please
call
the
roll.