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Okay,
if
everyone
would
please
be
seated,
we
do
have
a
time
restraint
on
one
of
our
very
important
presenters.
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A
A
Second,
the
minutes
are
approved,
no
there's
no
corrections,
if
not
because
we
have
time
limits.
If
I
could
get
the
first
presenter,
which
will
be
the
secretary,
and
I
don't
know
who
else
is
coming
up
with
him
senator
higdon,
do
you
have
anything
you
like
to
say.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
appreciate
that,
and
yesterday,
secretary
gray,
you
were
you
were
here
about
the
same
spot
and
almost
the
same
time,
and
we
when
we
visited
with
you,
you
were
kind
enough
to
take
us
on
a
with
you
on
a
tour
of
eastern
kentucky,
which
was
very
eye-opening
and,
and
I'm
certainly
glad
that
representative
santoro
and
myself
were
were
blessed
to
be
able
to
do
that
and
and
to
see
firsthand
the
destruction.
D
But
as
I
as
I
wanted
to
be
very
kind
with
a
nickname
that
I
heard
about
that,
and
I
think
I'm
I'm
not
sure
that
representative
santoro
might
have
been
one
of
the
ones
that
coined
that
phrase.
But
anyway
the
master
of
disaster-
and
I
just
want
to
commend
you,
mr
mr
secretary,
you
know
since
you've
been
been
in
your
position,
the
ben
spence
bridge
and
then
the
western
kentucky
catastrophe,
and
now
the
eastern
kentucky
floods.
D
I
just
want
to
commend
you
on
your
leadership
and,
like
I
said
I
was
there
and
saw
firsthand
the
work
that
you
were
doing
and
and
the
green
light
that
you
were
giving
your
folks
and
the
army
of
state
department
of
state
department
of
transportation,
vehicles
and
manpower
that
that
you
had
brought
to
the
to
the
area
and
again
I
just
want
to
thank
you
personally,
thank
you
and
and
like
I
said,
I
kind
of
like
the
nickname
that
it
kind
of,
and
so
I
know
we
say,
and
I'm
not
saying
that
jokingly.
D
I
I
mean
it
you've
you've
faced
more
than
your
share
of
disasters
and
and
you've.
You've
handled
yourself
well,
show
true
leadership
so
and,
and
it
takes
a
team
I
know,
and
you
have
a
bunch
of
them
with
you
today
and
and
I'm
hopefully
we'll
hear
from
from
all
of
them.
So
again,
thank
you
and
and
welcome
to
the
committee
meeting
this
morning.
Thank
you,
sir.
A
E
E
I'm
jim
gray
transportation
secretary
and
I'm
accompanied
here
by
a
fellow
that
everybody
here
I
know
knows
well
because
he
does
such
a
great
job
with
what
he
does
and
that's
kenny
bishop,
as
our
legislative
liaison
and
as
senator
higdon
said,
we've
got
a
incredible
bunch
of
people,
a
with
extraordinary
muscle
and
strength
in
this
transportation
cabinet
and
that's
a
legacy
that
goes
back
of
years
and
deputy
secretary
former
secretary
mike
hancock
is
with
us
today
and
our
state
highway
engineer.
James
ballinger
is
with
us
today
and
bobby
joe
lewis.
E
Our
commissioner
of
rural
and
municipal
aid
is
with
us
today.
Yesterday
we
had,
we
had
corbett
caudle,
who
is
our
chief
district
engineer
in
tan
and
corbett?
You
know,
does
a
great
job
of
speaking
from
the
heart
and
from
the
head,
but
we
decided
that
he
needed
to
be
back
boots
on
the
ground
today,
back
home
in
jackson
and
where
the
district
office,
of
course
is-
and
I
I
do
appreciate
the
comments
and
the
acknowledgement
senator.
E
I
also
want
to
say
in
full
fairness
and
and
with
the
full
conviction
in
what
I'm
saying
that
we
have
a
governor.
Who
is
absolutely
committed
to
these
recovery
projects
and
he
I
say
routinely
that
I
wasn't
used
to
to
having
a
boss
before
this
much
in
my
life
or
my
career,
and
I
got
I
got
accustomed
to
it
and
he
keeps
us
on
our
toes
and
that's
a
good
thing,
and
I
say
that
with
great
conviction
and
appreciation
for
the
leadership
that
that
governor
beshear
provides.
E
E
Was
that
was
that
representative
stevenson?
Oh,
unless
you
were.
That
also
was
from
the
heart
we
know,
but
I
do
want
to
say
right
out
of
the
gate
that
I'm
so
proud,
senator
higdon,
chair,
higdon
co-chair.
E
You
said
it
well,
but
about
the
about
the
competence
and
the
commitment
of
the
people
on
the
ground.
One
of
my
slides
tells
the
story
of
how
many,
in
the
transportation
cabinet
alone,
the
department
of
highways
and
others
supporting
this
project,
and
we'll
come
back
to
that.
I
also
want
to
say
that,
across
across
the
administration,
there
are
so
many
cabinets
actually
working
collaboratively
cooperatively.
E
We
actually
have
a
daily,
a
daily
routine
meeting
to
catch
up,
update
plan
ahead
every
day
at
four
o'clock
and
that's
among
all
the
cabinet
leadership
and
and
then
not
just
the
cabinet
leadership,
but
the
senior
folks
in
each
of
the
cabinets
who
are
committed
to
the
project.
Yes,
transportation
has
a
big
role,
but
of
course,
couldn't
be
couldn't
be
there
without
kentucky
emergency
management
and
and
and
director
slinker
doing
an
extraordinary
job
as
well
in
the
leadership
that
that
he's
providing.
E
So
I
just
want
to
say
that,
because
you
know,
there's
no
eye
in
teamwork
and
we're
all
working
together
on
this
I'll
have
a
slide.
That
illustrates,
and
senator
you
mentioned
it-
that
you
were
at
the
a
week
ago,
friday
on
site,
along
with
chairman
santoro,
and
then
I
got
to
I-
was
in
neon
and
ran
into
senator
turner,
who
was
there
with
his
equipment
and
his
and
people
that
were
working
with
him
and
illustrating
so
well
that
you
know
neighbors
helping
neighbors
people
helping
others.
Families
coming
together,
churches.
E
Regrettably,
we're
getting
a
lot
of
practice
at
dealing
with
these
really
troubling
and
challenging
conditions
and
situations,
and
I
will
speak
to
some
of
that,
because
some
of
that
experience
has
endured
to
our
benefit
in
the
last
two
weeks,
some
of
the
experience
from
western
kentucky
as
a
newer
to
our
benefit
in
the
last
two
weeks.
So
I'm
going
to
jump
right
into
I'm
going
to
jump
right
into
the
the
presentation.
E
I
will
say
that
there
was
one
thing
that
I
mentioned
yesterday
that
I
want
to
say
and
tribute
to
the
to
them
to
those
employees
of
the
transportation
cabinet
department
of
highway.
16
of
our
employees
actually
lost
their
own
homes,
their
their
homes
were
flooded,
they
didn't
have
a
full
loss,
but
they
lost
so
much
of
their
possessions.
E
E
From
the
point
of
view
of
the
transportation
cabinet,
that's
included
the
department
of
highways
department
of
vehicle
regulation
department,
rural
and
municipal
aid,
aviation
state,
highway,
engineer's
office,
the
secretary's
office
of
safety.
I
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
john
moore,
who
was
here
yesterday.
E
He
is
assistant,
state
highway,
engineer
works
in
the
office
with
james
ballinger
and
john
is
the
project
manager
for
transportation
he's
been
at
the
at
the
emergency
operations
center
almost
daily,
if
not
daily,
and
we
get
updates
from
him
all
the
way
to
two
and
three
o'clock
in
the
morning
daily
updates
from
john,
and
we
have
a
daily
call
within
the
transportation
cabinet
itself
at
five
o'clock.
E
So
after
we
have
the
four
o'clock
meeting
with
the
cabinet
secretaries,
we
have
a
five
o'clock
or
our
cabinet
has
a
five
o'clock
internal
meeting
more
when
this
slide
was
was
created.
For
you
all
a
little
bit
ahead
of
time.
Of
course
characterize
it
is.
We
have
at
least
180
department
of
highway
personnel
from
districts,
one
through
nine.
E
That
number
is
over
200
now
that
have
been
deployed
to
eastern
kentucky,
to
support
districts,
10,
11
and
12.,
and
in
10
11
and
12.
There
are
860
employees,
so
you
put
that
together
and
more
than
a
thousand
of
the
more
than
a
thousand
of
the
3
400
employees
of
the
department
of
highways
have
been
almost
directly
and
exclusively
focused
on
turned
their
attention
to
the
recovery
efforts
more
volunteered
and
are
on
standby.
E
Now
I
want
to
also
point
out
that
more
than
300
or
that
391
000
miles
have
been
logged
and
91
000
hours
of
engine
activity
within
the
designated
disaster
area
from
july
the
28th
to
august
the
9th
the
personnel
next
slide
kenny,
the
personnel
has
included
engineers,
equipment
operators,
entire
maintenance,
crews,
bridge
specialists,
inspecting
as
as
many
as
1100
structures
and
mechanics
equipment
that
they
that
has
been
brought
to
the
to
the
effort,
has
included
backhoes
and
dump
trucks
and
semi-tractors.
E
E
Personnel
were
instrumental
in
transporting
critical
goods
and
water
critical
goods
that
included
water
meals,
ready
to
eat,
cots,
travel
trailers
for
shelter
and
work
trailers.
The
travel
trailers
is
a
is
a
key
piece
of
the
both
lessons
learned
and
and
from
the
tornado,
as
well
as
having
the
available
having
those
travel
trailers
available
for
us.
E
This
is
a
this
is
a
story
that
I
wanted
to
share.
We
we
had
the
need
at
the
opening
of
buckhorn
lake
state
park.
There
was
a,
of
course
didn't
have
water
and
tanker
trucks.
Water
were
brought.
This
was
essential,
of
course,
to
use
this
as
a
shelter
and
three
tankers
were
brought.
We
repaired
the
road
to
get
to
buck
to
the
park.
E
We
had
to
repair
that
first
and
then
the
work
was
being
done
to
connect
the
the
tankers
to
the
to
the
facilities
at
the
at
the
lodge,
and
they
were
missing
a
valve
that
couldn't
find
anywhere.
E
E
E
As
of
yesterday.
We
have
issued
1921
licenses
and
ids
to
folks
that
were
in
flooded
counties,
many
of
whom
lost
everything
I
actually
I've
been
on
site
myself,
eight
days
and-
and
I
was
there
when
we
had
the
the
pop-up
at
the
sports
plex
just
outside
of
outside
of
hindman
and-
and
I
saw
I
was
witness
to
seeing
our
folks
who
had
been-
were
quickly
dispatched
and
quickly
agreed
to
being
to
setting
up
these
licensing
offices,
along
with
the
with
the
consolidated
services,
where
fema
is
also
located.
E
So
kytc
crews
have
not
only
been
working
on
clearing
state
routes,
but
also
in
helping
overwhelmed
counties,
clear
local
roads
right
out
of
the
gate
in
and
representative
santoro
and
and
senator
higdon
were
there
when
corbett
was
talking
about
it
in
jackson,
you
know,
judge
noble
was
there
with
us
that
day,
brethren
county
judge
and
and
he
was
expressing
his
expressing
appreciation-
you
could
just
see
the
teamwork
is
my
point.
E
E
Another
lesson
learned
from
western
kentucky
is
get
on
it
quickly
and,
of
course,
if
there
was
a
distinction
between
western
kentucky
and
eastern
kentucky
any
distinction,
you
can't
can't
compare
disasters,
but
you
can
learn
from,
and
one
of
the
lessons
of
course
was
in
western
kentucky.
It
was
in
the
winter.
E
E
Corbett
did
a
great
job
yesterday
of
describing
the
conditions
of
of
15
of
highway
15
when
he
was
going
to
work
from
hazard
to
jackson
and
he
couldn't
and
he
and
he
said,
he'd
been
traveling
that
for
27
years
and
never
seen
water
over
highway
15
and
he
couldn't
get
to
when
he
couldn't
get
to
the
office
and
he
didn't
have
cell
service.
But
this
is
just
an
example
of
a
washed
out
road
condition
in
district
12..
E
This
is
just
a
shot
at
the
jackson
office.
When
representative
santoro
and
senator
higdon
were
with
us
that
day
judge
noble's
there,
corbett
caudle,
is
in
the
red
shirt
the
checkered
shirt
beside
him
is
judge,
noble,
brethren,
county
judge
and
and
james
ballinger,
and
what
we
were
doing.
We
were
looking
at
the
at
the
road
conditions:
the
roads
that
had
been
made
reasonably
passable,
both
state
roads
and
county
roads.
There.
E
This
is
a
the
chaves
school
road
in
perry
county.
It's
a
collapsed
bridge
over
grapevine
creek.
E
E
So
far,
56
have
been
identified
for
requiring
structures
have
been
identified
for
requiring
replacement
and
52.
Others
have
been
identified
as
needing
repair.
Now,
that's
as
of
sunday.
That
number
is
now
that
was
a
little
over
a
hundred
that
numbers
now
we're
up
to
145
bridges
that
have
been
identified
for
for
needing
repair
or
replacement.
E
We've
already
begun
the
process
of
replacing
an
initial
group
of
11
under
emergency
condition,
contracts
in
not
letter,
perry
and
pike
using
existing.
As
I
said
in
emergency
contracts,
in
nine
of
the
11
of
those
11
cases,
residents
lost
motor
vehicle
access
to
their
homes
when
the
bridges
were
knocked
out
and
in
those
cases
we
are
building
temporary
crossings
called
on-site
diversions
using
culvert
pipes
that
are
covered
with
a
hard
packed
road
bed.
E
That
that
picture
in
at
chavees
that's
going
to
a
community
center
used
to
be
a
school.
You
can
see
it
in
the
background
there.
Yep
representative.
That's
right!
Representative!
That's
yours!
That's
right!
Yes,
sir!
That's
your
church!
Yes,
sir!
E
So
you
know
it
well,
you
may
want
to
we're
we're.
That's
been
a
that's
been
a
that
photo
is
one
of
the
most
challenging.
I
would
say.
E
So
our
next
slides
are
just
some
that
show
some
of
the
some
of
the
conditions
on
friday
right
after
the
28th
the
friday
saturday
sunday,
our
crews
cleared
at
at
least
153
landslides
and
mudslides
and
unclogged
dozens
of
culverts
and
drain
structures.
So
far,.
E
Again,
these
are
just
illustrations
of
how
destructive,
as
corbett
caudle
said
yesterday.
I
think
I
shared
with
you
all.
He
said
when
I
talked
to
him
on
that
thursday
morning
and
he
was
trying
to
get
to
the
jackson
office
he's
a
guy
that
doesn't
mince
words
and
he
doesn't.
He
has
an
economy
of
language
and
words.
He
doesn't
talk
too
much
and
he
said
well,
jim,
it's
I
said:
what's
it
what's
it
what's
it
like?
E
He
said
it's
catastrophic
and
this,
of
course,
these
slides
just
show,
and-
and
you
know
we
live
in
a
overnight
delivery
world.
We
know
that
amazon
comes
to
the
door
almost
the
next
day
or
ups
or
fedex
any
delivery
service
and
in
in
our
world
today
there's
the
expectation
that
you
know
we
can
flip
a
switch
almost
and
get
things
done,
but
these
are
challenging
infrastructure
projects.
E
This
is
a
this
slide.
Just
shows
the
beginning
of
debris,
removal
in
downtown
whitesburg.
That
was
that
would
have
been
now.
Let's
see,
sometimes
I'm
losing
count
of
time,
so
we're
wins.
This
would
have
been
a
little
over
a
week
ago
we
had
nine
companies
that
bid
on
the
debris
contract
that
we
turned
around
in
48
hours.
E
Through
the
through
sunday
of
the
last
sunday,
ashbritt
trucks
had
removed,
911
loads
of
debris
and
breath
it
floyd,
not
letcher
perry
and
pike
and
a
second
company.
The
company's
name,
is
er
assist
by
the
way
that
grapple
arm.
On
that,
that's
that
one
of
those
double.
What
do
we
call
those
double
dumps?
What
are
they
called
a
double?
Well,
I
got
it
right:
that's
y'all
see
it
with
the
they're
they're
senator
turner,
you've
seen
a
lot
of
them
represented
fugit,
you've
seen
a
lot
of
them.
E
Those
are
what
are
coming
in
that
was
in
weinsberg
anyway.
Er
assist
is
working
in
collaboratively
with
ashbritt
in
order
to
monitor
and
get
a
good
count
or
get
an
accurate
count
on
the
debris,
removal
that's
required
by
fema
and
for
to
ensure
that
we
get
reimbursement
from
fema.
E
E
E
Oh
this,
just
to
illustrate
the
condition
that
we
had
in
brethren
county
at
the
at
the
the
property
damage
at
the
district
10
sign
shop
in
brethren
and
then
the
next
slide
shows
the
condition
in
lecture
county
our
maintenance
facility
there.
On
the
on
on
friday
morning.
You
see
that
we-
this
was
a
couple
of
days
later
when
the
water
had
receded
and
we're
trying
to
get
folks
back
to
where
they
had
a
location
to
work.
Out
of
this
is
partially
cleaned
up
again.
E
Now
I
mentioned
earlier
that
we
have,
we
have
we
had
we
purchased
outright
for
the
western
kentucky
tornadoes
we
purchased
200
travel
trailers,
we
utilized
120.
E
Within
two
days
of
the
flood,
we
were
already
already
hauling
travel
trailers
from
western
kentucky
to
eastern
kentucky
to
locations
in
east
kentucky,
which
this
illustrates
as
of
august
the
second.
Now
it
was
being
led
that
efforts
being
led
by
our
chief
district
engineer
in
district,
one
whose
name
is
kyle
pote
kyle,
led
the
effort
in
western
kentucky.
E
E
He
also
flew
down
to
with
his
team
of
two
others
to
inspect
trailers
in
louisiana
from
hurricane
ida.
They
have
4
200
trailers
that
they
have
used
there.
He
actually
and
we
identified
63
that
we
could
move
immediately
and
governor
edwards
called
governor
beshear
to
say
that
he
was
very
supportive
of
of
I
don't
know
exactly
the
commercial
conditions.
E
There
is
some
suggestion
that
they
may
be
gifted,
but
we
have
to
work
that
through
fema,
so
the
bottom
line
on
it,
though,
is
that
we're
getting
cooperation
and
quick
cooperation
and
we'll
be
able
to
move
those
trailers
without
a
cost
premium.
We
paid
about
8
to
10
million
for
the
200
trailers,
for
the
tornado.
E
Okay,
now
what
you
all
see
here,
just
where
we
installed
we
had
about
30
25
at
jenny,
wiley
30
at
mind,
made
adventure
park
just
outside
of
hindman
just
across
from
the
sportsplex
and
then
carr
creek
campground
in
perry,
we're
trying
to
find
additional
locations
for
jackson
and
for
and
for
lecher
and
the
crockettsville
campground
and
in
booneville.
E
So
all
together.
This
is
the
image
of
trailers
at
jenny.
Wiley
state
park
gives
you
an
indication
of
what
the
kind
of
the
kind
of
of
trailers
that
that
are
available.
E
I
think
I've
gone
through
everything
we
had
and
we
don't
have
corbett
here
today
to
give
his
story,
but
we're
happy
to
take
any
questions
or
any
comments
that
you
all
might
have.
Thank.
A
You
again
today,
representative
fugate.
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
thank
you,
secretary
gray,
for
all
that
you've
done
for
east
kentucky.
So
on
the
night
that
all
the
rain
was
coming.
I
think
it
was
2
25.
In
the
morning
I
text
chief
advisor
rocky
atkins,
and
I
asked
him
to
call
me
in
the
morning
or
whenever
he
could
and
five
minutes
later
he
called
me
and
he
began
to
we
talked
about
just
we
knew
it
was
going
to
be
bad
because
of
all
the
in
my
hauler.
B
I've
never
seen
water
come
up
in
my
yard,
and
it
was
a
river
I
mean
it
was.
It
was
a
river,
and
so
anyway
I
appreciate
rocky
atkins,
jeremy,
slinker
transportation,
people.
All
all
that's
been
done.
So
many
people
have
come
it's
hard
to
thank
everybody
for,
for
everything,
that's
been
done,
but
the
just
just
the
roads
and
and
everything.
There's
there's
two
things
that
I'd
like
to
just
mention
to
you
and
I've
talked
to
corbett,
who
does
an
awesome
job
and
I've
worked
with
him
since
I've
been
in
frankfort
he's
awesome.
B
Guy
kentucky
451
is
a
big
concern
because
of
the
amount
of
people
that
lives
so
451's
cut
off
on
each
end,
and
there's
only
one
other
road
that
that's
there's,
there's
a
small
back
road
that
people
can
go
through,
but
it's
not
not
really
a
good
road.
So
I've
been
getting
phone
calls
just
about
that
451.
B
If
you
could
just
give
me
an
update
on
that
road
of
when
it
may
be
one
end
of
it
be
open,
so
they
can
travel
back
and
forth
okay
and
then
the
second
thing
is
well
there's
a
road
in
in
brethren,
county
kentucky,
11,
10.,.
A
B
Think
that
that
needs,
if
you
just
give
me
an
update
on
that
road,
okay
and
then
the
airport
road,
you
know
the
president
united
states
was
was
there
in
east
kentucky,
but
I
think
they
took
him
off
the
back
way
from
the
airport.
B
E
B
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
way,
we
could
bump
up
the
construction
money
on
that
project,
just
because
there's
200
and
some
homes
up
on
top
of
the
hill.
Besides.
B
And
I
saw
one
day
a
tanker
truck
trying
to
get
fuel
up
there,
but
he
was
stopped
on
the
road
because
he
couldn't
get
around
right.
You
know
he
couldn't
get
around
up
there.
So
that's
just
the
three
issue
that
I'm
not
griping.
I
promise
I'm
not
griping.
E
B
I'm
thanking
you
for
all
that
you've
done,
but
I
think
those
are
three
issues:
those
three
roads
in
my
district
that
that
you
know
that
that's
important
for
people
to
be
able
to
get
in
and
out
of
their
homes
and
I've
never
seen.
I
was
a
state
trooper
for
22
years.
I've
never
seen
anything
like
like
we've
witnessed
the
last.
B
You
know
three
weeks,
the
it's
just
it's
a
tough
time,
but
but
I
think
that
we're
seeing
not
only
outside
people
coming
in
to
help,
but
the
mountain
people
are
gonna,
we're
gonna,
we'll
be
all
right.
It's
gonna
take
us
a
while,
but
that
we're
a
strong
people
in
the
mountains
and
and
we're
digging
out
each
other
and
helping
each
other.
We've
got
52
people
sheltered
at
our
church,
still
there
in
hazard,
and
so
is
there
is
there
like
the
travel
trailers.
I've
got
one
guy
that
had
a
double
wide.
B
It
was
washed
away.
He
got
an
old
trailer
and
he
was
told
this
week
that
he
had
mold
in
that
camper.
Trailer
that
he's
living
in
could
fema.
Let
him
move
one
of
those
travel
trailers
on
his
own
property
or
do
those
travel
trailers
have
to
be
on
like
a
state
park
or
or
property
that's
owned
by
the
by
the
government.
B
E
B
Okay,
all
right-
and
you
know
most
of
them.
B
That
are
like
that,
yes,
sir,
and
most
of
the
area
that
flooded
has
never
been
flooded
before
you
know,
and
someone
was
asking
about
building
dams
and
and
all-
and
I
I
told
them
I
said:
there's
not
a
dam
in
the
world
that
would
have
stopped
11
inches
of
rain
when
it
gets
in
them.
Hollers
it's
coming
out,
and
so
I
mean
it's
nothing
that
anybody
could
do
to
prevent
it.
You
know,
I
don't
think
so
anyway.
I
appreciate
all
that.
B
You
all
have
done,
and
you
know
if
we
can
do
something
to
help
speed
something
up
or
whatever
I
will
do
anything
we
can
do
to
help
help.
You
all
do
that.
So
I
appreciate.
B
E
B
E
Right
we
may
be,
you
know
there.
There
may
be
other
projects
that
have
similar
opportunities,
while
we're
here
to
make
some
adjustments.
E
A
B
F
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
for
coming
today.
I
greatly
appreciate
it.
I
appreciated
yesterday's
conversation
too,
with
corbett
and
thank
you
all
for
everything
that
you're
doing.
I
think
whenever
we
get
into
government,
we
don't
always
realize
what
we're
gonna
have
to
face,
and
it
takes
a
lot
of
courage
and
diligence
to
be
able
to
do
this,
and
so
thank
you
all
because
I
know
you
all
been
working
around
the
clock,
and
so
thank
you
to
your
all's
employees
too,
with
boots
on
the
ground.
F
I
have
two
questions
for
you
all
and
one
is
you
know.
I
think
a
lot
of
conversations
have
come
up
about
like
bridges
going
into
haulers
and
now
some
of
those
are
privately
owned
and
they've
been
washed
away,
and
so
how
can
you
explain
a
little
bit
of
the
process
on
that?
Is
that
something
that
fema
will
reimburse
to
them?
Is
that
something
that
the
state
will
be
taking
care
of.
E
There
representative
havren
they're,
as
we
speak,
conversations
are
underway
regarding
these
issues.
The
private
structures
we've
even
are.
There
was
a
conversation
yesterday
with
west
virginia
on
ways
that
west
virginia
had
dealt
with
a
similar
flooding
conditions
and
similar
geography,
of
course,
and
what
they'd
done.
E
There
is
there
I'll
say
that
the
work
is
being
done
to
examine
how
and
what
we
can
do.
As
you
know,
the
constitution
prohibits
the
transportation
or
road
fund
from
paying
for
any
private
structures
that
said,
fema
has
had
has
had
situations
or
conditions
similar
to
this
in
the
past,
where
I
believe
the
language
at
pa.
F
E
Public
assistance
mike
or
private
public
or
private
assistance,
public
assistance
aid
where
it
can
be
applied
for
temporary,
right
or
temporary
structures.
Now
the
question
would
be
what's
a
temporary
structure:
what's
what's
a
habitable
residence
and
those
are
the
issues
that
we're
working
through,
but
but
rest
assured
that
this
is
a
project
we
think
of
these
private
structures
as
a
significant
mission
that
we're
underway
with.
F
F
E
F
F
Yeah
no
doubt
about
it
and
then
the
other
one,
the
other
question,
and
it
might
be
more
of
a
question
for
the
rumor
of
that
we'll
be
going
into
special
session
to
help
with
this.
But
I
think
that
in
eastern
kentucky
infrastructure
is
such
a
big
deal.
You
know,
and
I
think
that
as
we're
going
through
this,
a
lot
of
it
should
be
an
investment
rather
than
just
patchwork,
and
so
I
guess,
as
you
all
are
as
you
all
are
going
through.
This
is
the
transportation
cabinet.
F
How
are
you
all
looking
at
it?
Is
it
something
that
you
all
are
trying
to
do
just
to
get
get
through
to
the
next
day,
because
I
think
in
reality
too,
you
know
representative
fugo
was
saying
they
need
a
road
open,
you
know
and
so
you're
trying
to
do
things
as
quick
as
you
can
to
make
sure
to
take
care
of
our
good
people
in
eastern
kentucky.
F
But
you
know
sometimes
I
know
that
in
in
road
projects
we
just
patchwork
things
or
you
know
kind
of
try
to
go
things
as
fast
as
we
can
and
so
kind
of.
What
is
your
roles?
What
are
your
thoughts
on
that
of
just
is
this?
Is
this
investment,
or
is
this
just
trying
to
get
through
to
make
sure
people
are
taken
care
of
as
quickly
as
possible.
E
I
think
it's
a
it's
not
an
either
or
answer
there.
It's
both
hand.
The
governor
has
said
that
we
want
to
rebuild
buildback
if,
where
we
can
build
back
better,
take
this
opportunity,
as
you
know,
as
regrettable
and
sad
and
distressful
as
it
is,
take
this
as
an
opportunity
for
improvement.
E
E
A
C
I
again
reiterate
everything
I
said
yesterday,
mr
secretary,
and
appreciate
what
your
group
is
doing.
As
you
said,
we
met
there.
C
You
took
a
lot,
you
got
pictures
from
whitesburg
and
those
pictures
show
just
pretty
much
dry
garbage
or
things
out
on
the
street
there's
a
significant
difference
in
where
I'm
at,
and
it's
got
that
gray
mud
in
every
building
of
anywhere
from
six
inches
to
a
foot
thick,
and
when
I
saw
those
three
little
children
up
there
with
their
parents
pushing
out
of
the
back
of
the
building
and
waiting
in
it.
C
The
foot
is
or
some
way
that
the
transportation
can
get
that
out
of
the
creeks
and
widen
those
rivers
up
somewhat
that
I
know
there's
some
work
already
going
on
with
that.
Are
we
going
to
try
to
make
a
plan
long
term
to
even
make
those
branches
and
rivers
that
come
out
of
there
are
somewhat
a
little
bigger
and
wider
to
carry
more
water?
C
E
Well
again,
this
is
similar
to
the
but
we're
working
on
parallel
tracks.
Those
I
know
the
when
we
were
talking
in
in
neon
and
the
mayor
was
asking
about
the
very
same
issue.
The
first
thing
that
we're
tackling
is
stream
debris
removal
and
that
we're
working
with
we're
working
with
our
energy
and
environmental
cabinet
to
ensure
that
what
we're
doing
is
appropriate
but
we're,
but
we're
working.
E
I
would
characterize
it
as
very
intentionally
and
aggressively
we're
not
wasting
time
on
trying
to
examine
these
opportunities
that
we
can
where,
where
where
we
can
now
the
role
of
again,
the
role
of
transportation
may
not
be
to
to
actually
do
the
work
in
the
in
the
stream,
but
there's
certainly
an
awareness
that
there's
work.
That
may
need
to
be
done.
Just
like
you're
describing
and
like
I
saw
james
you
want
to
or
mike
you
all
want
to
add
to
what
I've
said.
C
I
saw
a
number
of
pictures
with
roads
that
are
closed
and
that's
been
an
issue.
Do
we
have
an
as
you've
said?
I've
got
my
own
equipment
over
there
and
today
makes
the
ninth
day
that
it's
over
and
been
working,
and
I
plan
on
going
back
tomorrow,
west
friday
and
working
if
we
don't
go
in
special
session
next
week,
I'll
be
there
all
week
and
one
of
the
other
senators
told
me
in
the
passing
today
he's
going
to
bring
some
equipment,
I
think,
to
prairie
county
to
help.
C
So
the
thing
that's
I
see
I
hear
the
most
though
that's
kind
of
out
of
this
thing
is
that
fema
is
not
offering
these
people
a
lot
of
money,
and
I
hope
the
press
picks
up
on
that
and
goes
and
investigates
and
takes
pictures
of
these
people's
place.
I
know
there's
an
appeal
process:
that's
somewhat
working,
they
had
the
meeting
in
pike
county
and
I
know
transportation
is
not
directly
involved
in
that,
but
you
all
are,
through
the
media,
helping
tell
the
people
how
to
get
help.
That's
right,
yeah,
so
I
hope
we'll
continue.
C
Everybody
working
on
that.
I
personally
do
tell
them
when
somebody
comes
to
me
and
they're
coming
to
me,
they're
in
fleming
neon
how
to
help
themselves,
and
I
hope
everybody-
the
media
especially
goes
and
looks
at
what
these
people
are
getting
offered:
twelve
hundred
dollars
or
two
hundred
dollars
by
fema,
which
is
a
disgrace
to
what
they
lost,
and
I
hope
that
the
governor
and
everybody
picks
up
on
that.
C
E
A
Thank
you.
I
know
you
said
he's
got
his
own
equipment
there.
I
think
everyone's
pitching
in
helping.
Is
our
contractors
any
anybody?
You
know
I
always
hear
these
highway
con.
I
think
they're,
great
people.
Can
you
comment
on
that.
E
Well,
the
highway
contractors
and
the
consulting
engineers
that
are
familiar
with
the
with
the
region
with
the
towns
and
the
cities
and
the
counties
were
first
to
step
up
to
offer,
help
to
the
cabinet
where
opportunities
where
the
opportunities
were
and
and
even
volunteering.
So
there's
been.
This
happened
in
western
kentucky
as
well
yeah,
you
know,
and
a
lot
of
them
didn't
want
any
vis.
E
They
didn't
want
to
to
be
praised
publicly
for
what
they
were
doing,
but
they
were
right
there
with
their
crews,
because
you
know,
as
I
said,
these
are
our
people
and
many
of
their
employees
were
similarly
lost
possessions
or
they
were
flooded
and
they
wanted
to
help
and
they
did
now.
Some
of
them
are
now
under
contract
for
some
of
the
rep
for
some
of
the
remediation
work
or
the
repair
work
and
the
rebuild
work.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
again,
mr
secretary,
I
and-
and
I
I
guess
you
know,
I
feel
that
I'd
like
to
thank
your
team,
because
it
does
take
a
team
and
commissioner
lewis
and
mike
hancock
and
james
ballinger,
kenny,
bishop
and
kenny.
If,
if
anybody
here
doesn't
have
kenny's
phone
number
put
it,
I
know,
kenny's
got
it,
watch
him
he'll,
put
it
right
up
there,
that's
a
good
one
to
have
in
your
pocket
because
he's
he
can.
He
can
direct
you
to
wherever
you
need
to
go
and
I've.
D
D
Snuck
in
she
likes
to
keep
a
low
profile,
but
I
guess
my
my
question,
mr
secretary:
is
there
any
cost
estimates
a
ballpark?
Yet
if
I
know
the
day
we
were
there,
the
perry
county
judge
told
us
that
he
had
46
bridges
out
and
about
25
million.
That
was
just
a
ballpark
figure
I
think,
and
that
that
number's
probably
gone
up
since
that
day
we
met,
but
it
just
just
curious.
If
you
had
a
ballpark
figure.
E
Whatever
number
I
had
in
mind,
it
would
probably
double-
and
I
can't
it
would
be
too
speculatively
for
me
to
reveal
the
number
that
I
had
in
mind.
I
think
it's
gonna,
it's
just
gonna
be
significant,
but
that's
that's.
What
you
know-
cabinet
executive
cabinet
secretary,
john
hicks
today
and
state
budget
director
is,
is
working
to
help
the
governor
compile.
E
You
know
from
all
the
different
areas
of
state
government
that
are
involved
in
the
recovery
efforts
so
to
pull
the,
I
guess
the
main
we'd
say
in
the
construction
business.
The
main
summary
together
you've
got
to
really
pull
from
every
area.
Of
course,
transportation
is
one
of
them
and
we've
got
a
significant,
a
piece
of
it,
but
just
yesterday,
for
example,
josh
rogers,
whose
leads
our
maintenance
effort
and
is
a
bridge
inspector
and
also
he
was
describing
this
spreadsheet
that
that
has
been
developed,
which
everyone
can
work
from,
but
just
think
about.
E
The
number
is
staggering
that
there
are
a
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
issues
that
are
being
evaluated
of
being.
That
doesn't
mean
that
there's
a
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
structures
necessarily
but
issues.
You
know
where
one
structure
may
have
several
issues
associated
with
it,
so
you
can
just
imagine.
Josh
was
just
saying
this
was
a
guy
that
helped
help
me
a
lot
on
the
brent
spence
bridge.
D
D
A
number
yeah
and,
and
that
as
we
go
into
special
session
and
we
appropriate
money,
I
I
think
that
we
will
get
some
reimbursements
back
from
fema
as
we
go
forward,
but
this
is
money
to
get
them
get
this
getter
done
now,
and
I
know
that's
that's
very
important
to
change
the
subject.
Mr
chairman,
just
starting
to
hear
some
talk
back
about
some
of
the
grants
that
we
that
have
been
applied
for,
I
know
raise
grants.
D
I
I
got
from
a
call
the
other
day
from
jefferson
county
that
that
ninth
street
grant
that
they
applied
for
on
broadway
broadway,
that
that's
representative
santoro
and
I
put
money
in
the
budget
to
match
and
that
that
was,
I
think,
part
of
the
the
beauty
of
them
getting
that
grant
they
had
that
match
money
in
there,
sir
any
other
did
we
receive
any
other
good
news
on
grants.
E
We
received
some
news
on
on
transit.
I
think
it
was
seven
seven
transit
agencies,
most
of
them
were
community
action
councils
that
received
altogether
about
three
million,
and
we
are.
We
turned
in
our
application
for
the
bridges
of
national
significance
funding
or
the
the
bridge
investment
program.
E
It's
called
both
both
of
those
names,
but
anyway
that's
a
for
the
brent
spence.
It's
1.66
billion.
It's
the
second
application
that
we've
made
for
a
bucket
of
funding.
Our
first
one
was
the
same
amount
for
the
mega
projects,
1.66
billion,
and
this
one
is
1.66
billion
as
well.
E
E
D
Another
question,
mr
chairman:
any
idea
on
the
time
frame
when
those
awards
will
be
announced
we're.
E
Thinking
that
the
brid
that
the
bridge
investment
program
will,
which
is
the
last
one,
this
again
is
speculation.
You
know,
but
there's
been
some
comment
that
that
one
may
be
the
first
award
and
we
were
expecting
if,
if
it
were,
if
it
were,
if
these
notifications
were
to
fit
our
schedule
for
the
brent
spence,
which
is
to
to
have
a
groundbreaking
on
it
in
the
fall
of
next
year,
then
we
would
get
notification
soon.
E
D
E
We're
going
to
be
looking,
you
know,
this
is
not
a
one
one.
One
year
situation,
this
is
multi-year.
You
know
we,
our
funding
from
the
bipartisan
infrastructure
law
is
a
is
committed
for
five
years.
It's
given
us
something
like
210
million
dollars
a
year
more
in
total
funding
from
the
federal
program.
E
C
Just
to
clarify
the
record,
I
think
it
was
my
first
meeting
with
the
governor
rocky
adkins
and
a
group
of
us
that
the
governor
was
thanked
for
at
that
time,
telling
all
the
mayors
county
judges,
the
federal
that
just
declared
it
was
a
disaster
that
qualified
for
fema
that
they
could
then
hire
local
employees.
C
A
Thank
you.
I
just
want
when
myself
and
senator
higdon
were
there
there's
a
lot
of
vehicles
in
these
creeks
and
everything
you're
gonna
have
to
do
something.
These
people
don't
have
to
pay
for
their
registration,
renewals
or
anything
I
mean
think
about
it.
Come
on
these
guys
lost
their
vehicles,
so
you
might
have
to
do
something
on
an
emergency
order
or
something
because
they're
going
to
get
a
bill
in
the
mail.
You
owe
us
your
taxes
now
so
just
think
about.
A
E
A
Next
on
the
agenda
is
capital
budget.
I
guess
robin's
going
to
come
up
on
this.
One
she's
becoming
a
regular
here.
A
And
pat
gruen
just
brief
overview,
real
quick
on
our
capital
budget,
real
quick,
if
you
would
just
be
seated
just
we
know
who
you
are
but
go
ahead
and
for
the
record
say
who
you
are
and
then
proceed.
G
Work
with
me
all
right,
that's
better!
I
always
have
trouble
with
that.
My
name
is
robin
brewer,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
the
office
of
budget
and
physical
management
in
the
transportation
cabinet.
G
I
thought
I
would
just
briefly
kind
of
go
through
kind
of
the
the
process
that
we
go
through
in
our
cabinet
when
we're
developing
our
capital
plan,
because
I
know
that
was
part
of
the
the
question
that
the
committee
wanted
to
just
learn
a
little
bit
more
about
and
then
after
I
talk
about
that,
I'm
gonna
turn
it
over
to
pat.
You
know
to
talk
more
about
the
condition
of
our
facilities,
statewide
how
how
we
try
to
maintain
those
to
the
best
of
our
ability.
G
So,
as
you
all
know,
you
know,
every
agency
is
required
by.
I
think
it's
keras
7a
to
submit
a
six-year
capital
plan
every
two
years,
so
we
will
be
beginning
that
process
here
in
a
few
short
months
in
january,
we
typically
my
office
is
responsible
for
sending
out
communication
to
everybody
in
the
cabinet,
basically
requesting
them
to
send
in
whatever
capital
project
needs
they
may
have.
G
We
send
out
actually
a
template
for
them
to
fill
out
so
that
we
get
a
certain
amount
of
information.
That's
consistent
among
areas.
G
We
also
provide
them
the
information
in
the
statute
that
explains
or
defines
what
a
capital
project
actually
is.
So
they
understand
when
they're
requesting
what
defines
a
capital
project.
So
once
we
receive
all
that
information
back
from
each
of
the
districts
and
all
the
other
areas
in
the
cabinet,
we
compile
all
that
information
together.
G
Now,
probably
95
percent
of
the
requests
that
we
receive
are
obviously
for
structures
facilities,
whether
it's
a
maintenance
garage
district
office,
salt
structure.
You
know
we
do
also
have
occasionally
some
I.t
projects
in
there.
We
might
have
an
aircraft
request.
We
may
even
have
like
a
request
for
some
equipment,
but
again
by
and
large,
the
majority
of
them
are
for
facilities.
G
G
So
again,
that's
something
pat's
folks,
look
at
they're,
looking
at
the
biennium
that
it
was
requested.
Is
that
really
the
binam
it's
needed
in?
Does
it
need
to
be
sooner
than
that?
Does
it
need
to
be
pushed
out
farther
and
he's
also
just
looking
at?
Do
these
projects
truly
need
to
be
done?
You
know,
just
if
someone's
requested
it
pat's
area
is
responsible
for
maintaining
those
facilities,
along
with
all
the
other
facilities
across
the
state.
So
they
know
what
work
has
been
done
to
those
buildings.
G
They
know
the
condition
that
they're,
currently
in
so
their
office,
we
rely
on
them
heavily
for
input
on
trying
to
prioritize
once
we
have
all
these
requests
and
we
determine
okay.
This
is
the
list
that
we're
going
to
be
working
with
now.
How
do
we
determine
what
our
priorities
are,
because
we
do
have
to
rank
those
before
we
actually
submit
the
capital
plan?
G
G
We
have
to
submit
that
into
the
capital
plan
system
by
april
15th
and
that's
in
statute,
and
then
in
a
few
months
after
that,
when
we
start
working
on
our
biennial
budget
request,
we
that's
when
we
have
another
look
at
it.
We
get
to
look
at
what
we
submitted
in
that
capital
plan.
We
need
to
see,
has
anything
happened
in
the
last
four
to
five
months?
G
That
needs
to
change
this
capital
plan
now
that
we
weren't,
aware
of
so
it's
good
that
we
get
another
opportunity
to
kind
of
assess
our
needs
and
then
once
we
start
working
on
our
biennial
budget
request,
the
focus
really
becomes
the
upcoming
biennium
in
that
six
year,
capital
plan
and
we
look
at
do.
We
still
think
we
need
all
of
these
projects.
G
G
So
that's
sort
of
how
the
process
comes
together,
for
when
we
put
what
we
actually
put
into
our
biennial
budget
requests
and
again,
a
lot
of
thought
gets
put
into
this.
G
It's
based
on
information
that
we're
provided
from
our
support
services,
area
and
and
people
on
the
ground
and
know
what
the
condition
of
those
facilities
are
across
the
state
and
that's
pretty
much
it,
and
I
I
don't
think
I
need
to
to
probably
talk
about
the
rest
of
the
process.
You
all
are
very
very
familiar
with
how
the
budget
process
works.
After
that,
I.
A
G
B
Chime
in
some
all
right,
yes,
the
the
thing
robin
was
talking
about
when
we
get
together
and
meet
and
talk
about
our
projects
and
stuff.
The
the
only
thing
that
will
be
different
is
if
we
have
a
safety
issue
with
any
of
our
buildings
like
district
six,
we
had
a
major
safety
issue
up
there,
so
it
got
moved
it
got
pushed
forward
and
I
think
we
pushed
some
back,
I
think,
is
what
we
did
in
the
six
year
plan,
but
that
was
necessary
because
we
had
a
situation
there.
B
A
B
The
two
main
ones
is
lecture
and
breath
it.
Okay,
and
that's
where
I
met
with
state
risk
yesterday,
basically
all
day,
and
they
were
telling
me,
you
know
what
they
can
cover,
what
they
won't
cover
and
then
they
they
would
tell
me
this
is
the
process
of
it
and
me,
and
robin
have
been
talking
quite
a
bit
about
the
different
processes
that
they
have,
because
I'm
kind
of
unfamiliar
with
that
territory
right
now,
but
I'm
learning
it.
A
Good,
I'm
the
reason
I
believe
it
or
not.
I
come
to
some
of
your
facilities.
Okay
and
I
look
around
and
you
have
to
have.
C
A
Working
conditions,
you
know
we're
not
50
years
ago,
come
on.
This
is
a
new
century.
We
need
to
get
you
people,
we
finally
got
some
pay
increases.
We
need
good
working
conditions,
we,
you
know
we
have
highway
workers
that
are
going
in
some
of
these
barns
that
I
looked
at
and
thinking
come.
F
A
You
know,
and
I
it's
budget-
I
know
it's
dollars
and
cents.
You
know
you
need
to
provide
for
your
family,
but
I
also
want
you
to
have
something
good
good
place
to
come
to
every
day
and
feel
good
about
it.
A
Oh,
you
do
you
all
do
a
great
job
I
just
want
to
maybe
in
the
next
budget
cycle
or
two.
Maybe
we
can
never
know
how
funding
goes.
Maybe
they
can
start
looking.
You
know
these
buildings
matter
to
you
all
and
when
you
go
to
work
and
it
does
in
the
trucks
and
the
equipment,
you
know
myself
and
senator
higdon
saw
those
the
equipment
down
there
coming
from
all
over.
So
that's
all.
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
out.
Anyone
else
have
anything.
Yes,
sir,
represent
mcpherson.
B
B
B
G
C
E
B
Ordered
so
we
have
problems
with
that
as
well,
but
35
percent
is
conservative.
I
think
I
think
it's
going
to
continue
to
grow
supply
and
demand
basically,
but
I
think
that
would
be
a
good
safe
number.
E
A
A
Thank
you
all.
You
know
we.
We
have
some
challenges
and
I
have
not.
I
don't
ask
representatives
what
you're
feeling
about
what
happened
in
eastern
kentucky.
I
agree.
We
got
problems
and
I
think
the
general
assembly
is
going
to
be
with
you
all
to
fix
these
roads
and
highways
and
everything
down
there.
So
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you.
If
there's
no
other
matter
I'll,
take
the
motion
to
adjourn,
we
have
a
second,
I
hope
so
move.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.