Koha-US SIG - Acquisitions Special Interest Group, 16 Nov 2021

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00:15:05 Christie: RHonda, you keep cutting out
00:15:15 Christie: I couldn't hear anything!
00:18:29 Christie: bug for koha regarding this issue:
00:18:34 Christie: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=126534&action=edit
00:26:07 hakhter: Do you think Koha upgrade will help us
00:26:30 hakhter: yes
00:27:08 hakhter: Is there a way we can delete vendor?
00:30:39 hakhter: Mine either
00:32:58 hakhter: Yes
00:38:32 Monique Prive: that's what I am seeing on mine. I have delete tab if I've never ordered from that vendor. Any way to delete all inactive vendors?
00:39:02 Monique Prive: delete all vendors in report
00:39:30 hakhter: That's what we have been doing now
00:40:19 Monique Prive: I have never used a ton of them and leave them as inactive.
00:40:39 hakhter: I have one more :)
00:40:39 Christie: found this in manual: If the vendor has no baskets attached to it then a ‘Delete vendor’ button will also be visible and the vendor can be deleted. Otherwise you will see a ‘Receive shipment’ button.
00:51:29 hakhter: Hi Christie: I just send you an email :)
00:56:44 Jennifer Marlatt: We don't adjust the replacement costs in the 952$v, it shows as the same amount as the 952$g. We attach a flat $10 Processing fee through the Item Types administration. The fee is applied only when the item is marked lost. Don't know if that helps.
01:00:55 Monique Prive: ok with me
01:01:02 Jennifer Marlatt: OK
01:02:06 hakhter: Bye everyone. It is always nice meeting with everyone.
01:02:50 Daphne Hoolahan: Thanks everyone

A

Yep looks good.

B

Welcome everybody to the november meeting of the uh koha u.s acquisition seg. um I hope you all are having a great november. um I I wanted to just start out. You know, usually we wait till the end for everybody's questions. I was thinking today. We would start with people's questions and just see if anybody had anything that they wanted to ask or were curious about or have been upgraded to the newest release if you're a bywater customer and had questions about what was going on with your new release.

B

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C

I had a question: okay, thanks rhonda, so this is christy, I'm from the monterey public library. It's been a while, since I've been with you guys. um So it's a pleasure. um I have had an issue and- and some of you may already be aware of this- I've been working with my water and I just just want to ensure that none of you have found a workaround um and if so, if you have found one, that's great I'd, love to know it.

C

So um we started out outsourcing our cataloging and processing and um what's happening is um when we receive um when I'm uploading the mark records the full mark records, not the on order records, um it's actually replacing our current catalogued items.

C

So it's overlaying the bib record and we don't want it to do that. So what what I'm working out with the vendor the vendor said? Oh, you should have an append rule, which I don't see one in quahog, and so what I'm choosing is it's just replacing it? I did try to do a new matching rule um which is to look at. I think it was a 952 field, but then I realized the new records. Didn't it didn't work.

C

So I'm wondering if anyone found a new matching rule or if that's a problem, that anyone has that they have a solution for.

B

B

Does anybody have an idea.

B

I got I had some audio difficulties, so I got a little distracted in there, but.

B

I know so basically, your your stuff is when okay, you get the the brief record from the vendor and then, when you get the full record, you want it to overlay the brief record right.

C

The brief record only and not the full record, so I I was trying to in fact I see marcy's on the call. She was kind enough to have a long call with me on this um but yeah. So what I wanted to do is to look for on order records and if it finds the on order records to go ahead and overlay, but if it finds already a bib record full bib record. I wanted to ignore that if that makes sense, but I want the item to still be added.

C

So what I did is I found a new matching rule but the, but it didn't work because the only option in coho to replace the item record was. It says, replace item record only if matching bib is found, but I actually wanted to replace all of the item records, regardless of whether the matching bib was found. If that makes sense, because I want the barcode to come in, I want the rfid tag.

C

I want all that information in on the item record, but it's not giving me that option up above it gives me the option to um if matching bib is found. Ignore or overlay, but I have to put replace usually um so I found a workaround with the matching rule. I guess.

C

As far as the bib record goes, it says: oh, if you find a matching bib, it will find the ones that are already full or already ignored, but then, where, where I get stuck is at the item level it'll say replace only if matching bib is found and that it's not it's not working for my matching rule. If that makes sense, it's my matching rule is realizing that. Oh, you have a full mark record here and an on order record here and it's parsing them out.

C

But then again I want to replace all item records and it only says if matching bib was found in quahog.

C

Does that make sense.

D

Sort of, I think, ronda there's same thing happening with us, also um I'm also working with andrew, but it didn't work fully. um I think the scenario that what she explained is the same thing that similar like us. We do download on order record and then we send this on order record, it's kind of like just a fake and then not like the full one and then when we get full mark record and we upload it, but maybe some of the some of the items is not new.

D

Maybe it is already the beep record is already there. Then we don't want to overlay the beep record with the new beep record. We like to overlay only the on order, like maybe two items out of like you, know what we have seven items, but in our case um I did yesterday trying to figure that out it's I I just ignore that, and then I have to merge both biblio record and I need to see which biblio record I'd like to keep it. You know the good one or the bad one. It doesn't overlay.

D

However, if you have new one and if I choose replace it, then it works perfectly. Otherwise, I have to merge both two items. Every time one is on order record and the other one is with uh barcode and all those like you know the full things yeah.

D

Hey this is marcy.

E

And at one one solution that comes to me, and I thought there was a bug on this or maybe a future development that they were trying to get support for where you could, when you're importing records, you can select different rules for different bib records that are matched.

E

Does that ring a bell with anyone, because what it sounds like in some cases, you want to overlay that that brief on order record, but then in other cases you don't, because you have a full bid record that your consortium or your staff has already tweaked, but the vendor sends one big giant file and unless you have separate accounts, set up for duplicate orders and regular orders with your vendor, quahog doesn't allow you to handle those file, the items in the file differently or the bid records in the file with different roles.

B

Yeah, that's what.

A

B

Touched on with the different accounts for duplicates versus new items, that's the way um we do it. uh We've got we if we know that we've already got a good bib record in our system. For the item that we're ordering you know got damaged.

A

B

Want additional copies, whatever we have.

A

B

Account set up with our vendor that um and and when we order those the items we do, it.

E

Hey barbara you're, uh rhonda you're cutting out all right.

B

Okay, am is that better? Yes, yeah? Okay, I am going to get rid of this okay. So what what I was saying I'll, just repeat it in case um you didn't catch it. We we. What marcy hinted at there or mentioned is that we have two accounts set up with our vendors one for new items and one for duplicate items so that what at the time we order, we did we decide um you know. Do we have a good bib record?

B

You know that we've tweaked and we've got it all set up for our our system and um then- and we don't want to touch that um when we order the dupes we do we we do the matching rules so that it finds the existing um item of bibs in our system and just adds the item as an on order item at that point. For those and then we don't get the new bibs which we have to pay for. um We don't get those with the with the dupes.

B

You know we tell we um yeah, we just don't get the mark records with those as opposed to new ones, which we um we get. You know we do that. We that you know it.

A

B

The matching on on the existing bibs.

A

B

Doesn't find any matches, and so it creates the um brief record we put those in our system and um and then, when the new one comes in, we just overlay it that I I understand what you're trying to do and.

B

Okay, so were you able to hear what I just said or not yes, okay um does. Is that helpful at all I? I know it doesn't really solve the problem that you're you know at the time of receiving it doesn't solve that.

D

Problem rhonda: I think that our team was explaining, like that yesterday our cataloger was asking that. Can we have that, uh so you you actually open us um to think about it? Can you elaborate a little bit more like um we are using ingram at this moment so, as you said, that duplicate like, for example, whole ratio, so we order uh extra copies. In that case, do you get process uh account uh without beep.

B

Right yep: yes, everything for our dupe accounts. Everything is the same except we don't get the bib record, which is good from our perspective, because I mean they.

A

Cost like 25.

F

B

But it's 25 cents, we don't have to pay for um and then yeah we. So it's more of yeah, um okay, christy's putting a bug in there in the chat, um so the it's more of uh at time of order. We make the distinction between um duplicates.

B

You know things that should be added to an existing uh bib record versus things that we want. The brand new bib record in.

E

How has I'm sorry rhonda? I have a question about that. Do. Do you then have to finish up the item record manually when the items arrive like? Are there because you're not getting the final mark record right with the barcode right.

B

Well, no because I.

B

uh I'd have to double check that yeah, because I think they have the ability um don't hold me to this. um I think that ingram has the ability to just send us.

B

No, I don't think so. um Yeah sorry.

B

But yeah, I think, yeah when, when they come in, we have a different workflow for dupes yeah and when they you know they come in. That's one of the things that gets done is you know complete. You know it's got. The item is there. They just need to scan in the barcode.

A

B

G

The other thing you could consider- I don't know- I don't know ingrams in europe, but um you could go back to the old workflow and like rondo was saying. If you decide at the beginning, you know you have to decide which are brand new um biblios.

G

You could go and acquire the biblio record at that stage, so that you know, then, that all of your items when they're coming in are going to match to good biblios.

G

And then at least we've just got one workflow for receiving that might be worth considering. I don't know so I'm confused daphne at what you're proposing.

G

So when, when you go to order something you first of all, you go and you search on your system and you see. Oh yes, we already have a good biblio for this, so I'm just going to order some extra items.

G

So at that stage, if you don't have a good biblio, can you go and acquire the good biblio at that at the order before you order, so that when all your orders go out, you are saying we already have good biblios to receive these against.

G

So you never have the short record on your system.

G

Yeah, so in a little bit the way we used to do it long long ago when we were starting off, we catalogued the um the item. First, so you go wherever you can acquire your good biblios and you download an empty biblio, and then you place your order against that.

G

So at least then you know when everything is coming in. You already have a good biblio, so you take the option that you're just going to match against your biblios and add in the items I see.

C

You're saying, but that takes away, I think what we're trying to do is we're trying to outsource all of our cataloging, so that would take actually cataloging work in the beginning is what you're saying you've cataloged it first.

G

Right, yeah: well, that's yeah by acquiring the record from somewhere else. Now I don't know how he's as I say, we don't use ingram. So I'm not sure what their services.

C

Okay, yeah, the interesting part is we just started with brodar, which has been great but they're, very hesitant. I again I had a long, um informative talk with marcy who's. On this call, um I was asking about setting up a different account which it sounds like rhonda and marcy. Do a separate account for um dupes that we're ordering and they're hesitant to set me up saying that oh well, there's a workaround.

C

You could just depend and they're trying to give me all these ideas and again I've been working with bywater and they said well, look they think it's a bug, then it needs to be worked out and they're holding off on setting up the separate account for me for dupes and um they're, saying: oh, you need to exhaust all of your options. So here I am on the call with with all of you to try to figure out. If maybe there is another option, so thank you all.

D

I think uh christine, I don't know whether it's gonna help you or not, that we are trying to uh do that in future. We just started um broader, almost like last fiscal year and then ingram just last week, so we are pretty new in there, but our cataloger found that this is the issue happening, because we have good mark record and, as you know, that is quite hard to match it up.

D

So she suggested that is there a way we can separate it like which we have it, and she said well if we already know that, so when we receive it, we are going to not. um We are not going to say, replace, mark mark order. We are just going to say, add mark order, so she said as as long as we know that this item is not replacing.

D

Then we are not going to say replace this. We are just going to say, add items, but I think what ronda said. If we don't get the mark record, that means we are saving 25 cents, which I I'm not sure that I have no. I have to talk to them. How we can maybe there's another account set up, but if we don't wanna set up the account we have to do, uh we have to just um keep the list separately. Like you know, when you order edi, you just have to separate that.

D

Okay, we know that this order is coming only for the whole ratio, or this order is coming only for the dupe. Maybe that's one of the thing we are trying to do. I don't know we haven't done that, though mercy so christine uh yeah.

C

Okay, thank you.

B

Yeah, that's that's a um an interesting puzzle, and um so I didn't actually look at this bug.

B

Allow option to choose which record match is applied during import. That sounds like.

B

That's right on topic for this, um so um yeah, it's bug, two, two, seven. What is it? uh Seven, eight five and if this is interesting to you, be sure to comment on it and vote for it.

B

B

Not this time uh so um do you think the coho upgrade will help us? So are you still on 20 2005.

B

Okay, so there weren't a lot of changes to acquisition. I mean there was there's some, um but not in the whole processing of how things are received and things like that um so yeah, I don't think this particular upgrade is.

A

B

To help with that, I think those kinds of issues are still there.

B

B

B

Does anyone else have a question.

B

Has anyone discovered a really cool trick.

B

Okay, um well, thank you christy for for asking your question because I think more.

A

B

Wrestled with that same issue, so it'd be great. You know if we can figure out a generic uh process or something that works for a bunch of people. For that too.

F

And this bug looks.

B

Interesting, um so what right, rhonda.

A

You've gotten the question in the chat.

B

Delete vendor, yes, I think there is okay. So let me let me practice. First.

B

Oh, I wasn't in the right place, I'm just gonna quick, try.

B

E

Do this on my system.

B

um Let me go to, I think. If you go to um here, I will pull this up and then we can look at it together. Staff client.

B

Okay, all right, so let me share my screen and we will oh, I always forget to click the share button. Okay, all right! So can everyone see.

B

Which screen do you see? I can't tell um do you see the cohab homepage yeah.

A

We're seeing that.

B

Okay, super okay, all right.

B

C

Oh, no, you have a delete vendor there. Button right, rhonda, yeah, sorry about that.

B

Delete vendor is right here, um so we can. We can delete the vendor.

C

There, so I don't have that option on mine. I wonder if it's because my version of coha is not the same.

B

Let me try something all right, so I'm see these have no pending baskets the one that I picked had no pending basket. But if I pick one that has a pending basket like this one, then I don't have my delete vendor.

B

um So I I'm guessing that you need to process all of the baskets and stop ordering from them before you can delete it.

C

Yeah, actually I I ended up picking a vendor that I haven't worked with before, because I've been in acquisitions for two years and it still didn't have the delete option. So I'm wondering if it's my version of cohab, but someone else just said they didn't have that option either on the chat. Okay,.

F

We don't have that option either and we're we're on 2105.

F

But I'm not seeing it.

B

Okay, so do you think it's just if you've never ordered from them.

B

A

Ronda there is a commission yeah. Permissions is what I was going to say. There is a managed, vendor's permission. I wonder if that's what lets you see that or not.

B

Okay: let's go.

B

Oh, it permissions like in a login.

A

Yeah in the patreon yeah.

B

Okay, so let's go to there.

B

All right, so if we go over here to set permissions, so this has super librarian function.

B

Is that what everybody has.

B

Manage vendors is included in there.

B

B

So I can put out um I'm getting an echo um a.

B

Just a question: well, I suppose we could do it on slack too. Just a quick question of. Is there a way to delete vendors um that we've worked with in the past.

F

That we we've sent orders to. I finally found that option on a couple of my really old vendors that I think were imported um into quahog setup and that we've probably never really used okay, but I've got some other vendors that I don't think you know.

F

I don't know if we've ever, you know done any orders with them or not. There's there's some that I would think would be the same as these others. So I'm not sure what the difference is yet, but I did finally find the option on a couple of them.

B

Okay, that's interesting, so maybe a better question is what um what are the conditions, the conditions that need. You know that are necessary in order to.

C

Vendor I see where you could delete a contact of my vendors or make a vendor inactive, but I don't see the option to delete in the screens that we're looking at the vendor options.

B

So if you come in here edit vendor, you can put this information yeah. There's the delete contact.

C

And then right there you can see you can put vendor inactive those radio buttons. Oh the radio, okay.

B

Yep vendor is inactive, so what does that do? Does it?

B

If does it display on that? Well, let's try it. It means you can't order from them.

G

B

Can't order from them, okay,.

C

Yeah it will display, unless you pick the option, there's an option when you display the vendors it'll say, show active vendors only so you can choose which vendors you see. Okay,.

B

Okay, so I'll make it back to active.

B

Okay, interesting.

G

I think it may keep old, even old, vendor records for statistics on things, even if you haven't used them for quite a while, so it may be. If we could archive off very old orders, then you could delete the vendors.

B

A

Is a note in the template that says the delete button only appears in the template if basket count equals zero. So it could be that there's still baskets tied to some of those vendors, even if they're not in use and that's why it's not showing the delete button.

B

Yeah that makes sense to me um because they need yeah.

B

Basket so basket equals zero means. There's you've never ordered from them right, because you could have a basket, that's really old, but it would still be connected to that vendor.

B

C

Well, that would make sense, because you'd have to you would have invoices and baskets orders attached to a vendor yeah and.

B

C

If you deleted them, that would.

B

Mess up your records.

C

B

So I'm sure in the database you know they just point to the vendor in the vendor field and if you deleted that vendor it would point nowhere. At that point yeah I didn't mean to do that, but.

E

B

Yeah because I think yeah that's kind of the behavior that I'm seeing. So if you have one that you've got.

B

If we make it inactive.

B

And then go back here.

B

I guess it just shows inactive here.

C

And then at the top right it should be, but you should be able to it says, show active vendors. Only. Does it say that on yours.

B

Yes, I see it yeah, okay,.

B

So all vendors show active vendors, toggles back and forth between that, and you can see the the one vendor disappears there.

B

So if you didn't want to deal with some really old ones, you could make them inactive and then just look at the active vendors, not a perfect solution, but it's one way to do it.

B

Does that help at all.

B

If I never order from them anyway to delete all inactive vendors.

B

Yeah, I think we'd have to check with you know: buy water if you're, supported or whatever and um or you know, another support vendor or you know, mess with yourself. But I think you would lose um some data if you actually deleted the vendor. um You know and you can decide then that's important or not.

B

G

B

You maybe don't care who who the vendor is anymore.

B

Suppose you could always put the vendor in and write it in a non-public note and or that wouldn't really help you in acquisition. So in catalog, but okay.

B

Again, a great question um so any more questions. Sorry.

B

Okay, I've never used a ton of them and leave them as inactive okay.

B

Okay, hang on, I gotta get my chat here.

B

Found this in the manual.

B

If a vendor has no basket attached.

B

Okay, all right all right hasina, you had a question.

D

Yes, I have another question regarding um importing mark record, so in gram we have to use, for example, fiction collection code. We are using fiction, adult fiction, adult juvenile, but at our system we are using only fiction instead of adult fiction, uh juvenile fiction. So um I saw another um webinar type of thing. We can use matching point nine, four, six, eight in our system. I did that, but somehow um it didn't work like it didn't. Change like there is a if condition if you do that it will change it.

D

So I'm just wondering if anyone is using that um this is for in-ground vendor that we are doing.

B

So I'm not quite sure I understood the question um so when you so in your funds like this is the test system.

D

Not in the fund, um in the items like when we when we get the full mark record, yeah yeah.

B

D

You have collection code is we have to send them breakdown way like, for example, children, juvenile, we have to say juvenile fiction where else at our system, our collection code is only juvenile, so or maybe only fiction, but when we send the edi order to ingram, we have to break down, for example, adult fiction, juvenile fiction, adult biography, juvenile biography, but in our system we have only fiction or we have only biography.

D

So is there a way instead of doing every single item manually collection code, changing? Is there a way like you know, we can match it up that okay, this field, um I did change like 9, 46 8 mark record. I did change as like. You know I did change. um What does it call like match point, but somehow it didn't work when we import the mark record. um So I was just wondering: is anyone is having using that or any idea or any suggestion.

D

C

So, are you saying that your um collection codes are general fiction category or they actually like juvenile fiction, adult.

D

Fiction, they are only juvenile or they are only fiction. They are like fiction, biography non-fiction. Only this.

B

D

But we are sending them as a juvenile fiction, juvenile biography, but where else, when we are getting the items, then we have to manually change every single titles that okay, it's juvenile fiction, but it will be fiction instead of juvenile fiction because they want us to send the fiction book as a categorized like it is a adult fiction or it is a juvenile fiction.

B

So ingram is asking you to do that.

D

B

Okay, that's interesting.

B

When you say send it are you putting grids on them? Is that what you mean? Yes, yes, so you're gridding it as okay. So are you getting processing done based on that.

D

Yes, okay, spine level, we are getting processing based on that.

B

Okay, do you just have the one account then.

D

With ingram uh we have process account, we have non-process account also, but we just started with the process account. So um then we have to greet everything the collection code based on their need, because, based on that, what we are sending they are uh giving us a spine level based on that.

B

C

What we did, I don't know if this helps you at all. um We don't use collection codes in our library, so we were forced to kind of do another option and I'm wondering if this is something that you could switch so that it works for you. So um we use our shelving locations as the collection code with the vendor, and so I'm I'm thinking that if dear collection, codes, um you're, saying they're, just generic, but your shelving locations are probably more specific. Is that right, yeah.

D

So our shelving location is juvenile, adult juvenile adult young adult. So but our collection code is fiction, non-fiction, biography, yeah,.

C

So my suggestion would be to possibly do what we're doing is using your shelving code or shelving area as your collection code when gridding with your with ingram um and then that way, they'll be more specific for you, for when they come in they'll use your shelving location as your collection code, so they'll be specific, like juvenile fiction when they come in. That's what we're doing.

C

D

That's that yeah.

C

And I'm happy to if you wanted, to set up a call or something- and I could show you how we're doing it. um But that's how we figured it would work for us yeah, because.

D

That's it that's a good point, because we are also sending the shelving location, so we can, instead of changing that we can just say because that's a like you know, shelving location is much easier than um changing all the collection code. Every single title.

D

Yeah, I think I'll be happy to see um how you are um doing in your system.

D

E

B

That's exciting, I'm so happy to see this. uh These connections made that's what this is all about.

B

um Just what what we do is we have two accounts, an adult account and a children's account and, um and that way ingram could know which uh you know which, which process you know. If we just say fiction, then um they're able to distinguish based on on the account that it's on that's maybe another option, but if christie's would be way way simpler to set up um with with that, I think.

D

So do you guys have young adult, also in spanish, so how? How do you do that? So, for example, spanish has spent. We have spanish, then young, adult that's how they broke. They break down juvenile and adult for super and graphic novel. So that's how they they break down everything in a separate way.

C

Correct yeah, we have all that.

D

Okay, okay, uh christian, do you mind, like you know, uh sharing like your email or maybe in the in this email one you can also email me or I can. I can shoot you an email, I'm gonna put it in the chat. Okay, thank you.

B

B

Anybody else have a question: we've got 15 minutes left here. um I said we were going to talk about receiving items, um but people's current questions are way more important than um than you know anything. I randomly pick.

C

I have a question on taxes. Okay um again, this is all new to us. It's outsourcing, so um I our our replacement price and our actual cost used to be the same. That's how we had it in the library set up. We weren't accounting for our catalogers time and everything. So we bought the book for 10. That's the actual cost of replacement. Cost was 10.

C

So now, what we're finding is we're, adding the cnp into the replacement cost, but what's happening is the invoices aren't matching up when they're coming in, because um cohas adam it looks like cohab is automatically charging the tax on the replacement cost as opposed to the actual cost?

C

um Does anyone have any ideas, or are they having any issues or suggestions.

B

Yeah we don't pay any tax. So that's an area that I'm completely ignorant of is how how taxing works in that's.

C

What I'm finding ronda is a lot of libraries are not paying the tax, but we are so um yeah. I was hoping that someone may be on the call that does pay tax, but.

B

Yeah is there anybody here that does pay tax on your items.

B

It doesn't seem so you know, there's a few people, other people from texas.

D

B

That wouldn't have to pay tax.

B

Yeah, I don't know about that. One.

B

I did have one question myself. um I was curious if this, if anyone has used this orders by fund thing.

B

This is in the oh, you have no data. I I played around with this for a little while, okay, no data on there um on on my system- and I expected that you know orders by fund- would show you everything that had been ordered for a particular fund and then there's a total at the bottom.

B

And then I was oops.

B

um I was expecting that the total on this screen or ordered and spent would total the same thing that the orders by fund um showed and they don't match. Has anybody else played know anything about orders by fund.

C

So what I've found rhonda is. um There are some reports that I've used in the past.

C

um You know that are um canned reports, so to speak in in koha, and some of the sequels some of the identifiers and the in the sequel um are not are no longer valid, and I haven't I'm not well trained in that, um but I know that I use our tech guy sometimes and he's saying: oh, this isn't a valid identifier anymore. You have to go somewhere else and replace it.

C

So I don't know if this is one of those reports that you know it was already put in via sequel and something is not working in it anymore.

B

Okay, that's an idea. Does.

C

That make sense.

B

C

And that's been frustrating for me because I used to have these great reports and all of a sudden they're not working, and I haven't had the time to go back into the sql language and say: okay. What can I replace this with? Because this isn't a good identifier anymore?.

B

Yeah because they've made a few changes to the structure of the database behind coha and yeah. That will happen. They've changed a couple um database table names.

G

But I would think rhonda if it's offered there as a standard report you should put in a bug because they should fix it. You know it's different if it's one of your own local reports, but you can't see what's behind that so right, you can't fix it.

B

Yeah so there's no, you know edit button or whatever up here.

C

And but some of the reports I think, are added by members, so I don't know how well monitored they are. um You know like, as far as putting in a bug.

B

Yeah most most of them are but this one this particular report is new to uh I I don't know which new release it is, but now it comes standard you know kind of like the um holds ratio report um the holds to pull report some of those they come standard on this um on the whoops on the acquisitions screen.

B

B

Yeah, it's right here on the actual screen. As you know, here's the hold ratio um report, which is standard and if you go in there and if you go in there, you you can't um edit that report at all and this one is the same like.

A

Daphne said.

B

It's it's a standard report that should be working properly, um so I'm yeah I'd be curious to see what other people, what I've.

E

B

B

Let's see is a lower number than the home page or it's the other way around. I'm I'm I stared at this all morning and I'm so confused right now.

B

So yeah I I just was curious if anybody else had sort of explored the orders by fund link. That's now part of acquisitions.

F

Rhonda yeah, um I don't really use that orders by fun that often, but I just checked some and it appears to be working working. For me at least, total is a combination of what's on order and what has been spent and if I add those two together, that's the amount I'm getting. When I look at an uh a particular fund in that orders by fund report.

B

Okay and that's what I would have expected to happen, I wonder why mine isn't.

C

My reason either rhonda- I just checked my mine's off by, like I don't know, 150 dollars.

B

Yeah yeah, that's about what mine's off too.

C

Yeah- and I can look at it more if I figure something out- I can email you, but okay, yeah.

B

I'm going to look.

C

B

It more this afternoon too, just because I'm really curious um I'd feel more confident if I had one number for for the budget purposes,.

B

Okay and jennifer did put a comment in the chat.

B

About their processing fee and then things like that, we don't adjust the replacement costs, it shows as the same amount. We attach a.

A

Flat 10 processing.

B

Fee through the item types administration, okay, okay, okay, the fee is applied only when the item is marked lost. I don't know if that helps.

B

Okay, thanks um jennifer.

B

Okay, um maybe we can delve.

A

B

Receiving uh next month next month is december um and.

B

Our next meeting would be the ooh yeah. um Our next meeting is supposed to be the 21st of december.

B

um I'm guessing that's, probably not a great time for people a couple days before christmas, I'm imagining people will be vacationing, so my thought was we just meet again in january um and if you have any questions or need anything, um you know to talk to anybody. You know feel free to contact anybody on on here. um You know and we can set up a zoom. You know if you want, we can set up a zoom session with a couple of people. You know.

A

B

Address any problems I know probably there's probably some libraries that um their fiscal year will end at the end of december. I don't know how many are on the call, but um you know if you have any questions related to that anything, but does that sound? Okay with everybody that we just wait till january, because it is the week of christmas for our next. um Our next meeting.

B

F

Honda yeah, I just thought I'd, let you know I found a fund that doesn't equal on my system, uh there's a difference of 53 cents. So um so I there's yeah the ones I checked earlier were right, but this one is is off. Okay,.

B

All right, some investigation needs to be done all right. I will I'm gonna look into it and was it chrissy said hers didn't match either so um see if we can figure out where the problem is okay? Well, um if there are no other questions, um jason, if you can take us the december meeting off of the calendar.

B

He's got a coffee cup there. I guess he's awake.

B

um All right, then, I'm going to stop sharing.

C

B

Yeah you're welcome and I'm glad I I hope everybody has a great holiday season and we'll see you in 2022. If not before, then at the general meeting for koha u.s we get to elect officers and yeah. It will be.

B

Hope you all have a good holiday, so we'll talk to you soon.

B