Koha-US SIG - Cataloging Special Interest Group, 5 Mar 2020

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07:31:12 From Heather Hernandez : Hi! We'll start at the top of the hour. The session will be recorded & the group chat saved. Please feel free to unmute yourself, start your video, and chime in! Today's topic: Advanced bib editor/"Rancor."
08:01:25 From Caroline Cyr La Rose : +1
08:01:29 From Myka Kennedy Stephens : sounds good, Heather!
08:01:30 From Elena : I can hear well
08:01:31 From John : Sounds good here!
08:03:40 From arattler : Apologies! I missed how you got to where you are.
08:05:06 From arattler : Thank you!
08:05:18 From Michael (CKLS) : Note that you can only use the advanced editor if it is enabled in system settings
08:05:31 From Fred King : From me as well--we lost network access for a couple of minutes.
08:05:47 From Jennifer Howard : your share didn't switch back to the correct window I don't think?
08:06:03 From Jennifer Howard : thumbs up!
08:07:10 From John : Subfield a must be explicitly stated, yes?
08:07:36 From John : Thank you!
08:07:36 From Fred King : How are you getting the field tag symbol?
08:09:00 From Todd : Hey everyone if you’re not speaking will you please MUTE!
08:10:08 From Fred King : Did you mean a 588 field?
08:11:43 From Jennifer Howard : does Save to Catalog make it a searchable bib (in the OPAC)? Is there a way to save as draft?
08:11:50 From Fred King : Thanks--I'm not a real cataloger so I'm easily confused. :-)
08:14:23 From Abbey Holt : I like that trick! I hate switching back and forth each time.
08:16:18 From Caroline Cyr La Rose : I notice 942$2 is a drop-down menu, can you put a drop-down in any field?
08:16:46 From Caroline Cyr La Rose : No worries :)
08:17:28 From Amber B : I always check subject headings in basic editor. It’d be great if we could do it from the advanced editor.
08:18:01 From margaret.brown : Tell me again--how did you check the subject headings?
08:20:22 From marieluce : the locked field may be due to a system preference called BiblioAddsAuthorities
08:20:51 From L1COOPER : do you need an authority control system in order to check it in Koha?
08:25:01 From Fred King : How easy is it to merge authority records--let's say I have Rubin, William; Rubin, Billy; Rubin, W James--and they're all the same person.
08:31:26 From Fred King : Thanks! Is it possible to display the record number (for all the records) on the screen? That sounds like it might be useful.
08:31:48 From Caroline Cyr La Rose : I don't think it's possible Fred
08:31:52 From Fred King : Enhancement request!
08:33:57 From margaret.brown : We can 't do macros in Firefox--but they work fine in Chrome.
08:34:51 From margaret.brown : Sometimes my macros land in the wrong place.
08:35:39 From Jason Robb : Macros page on the wiki: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Advanced_editor_macros
08:37:16 From Barbara Johnson : FYI - bug 17268 addresses retaining macros when browser is cleared.
08:41:12 From marcia.butler : I haven't used MARCEdit connected to our Koha yet. Can I run a vendor file through MARCEdit and update and save directly into Koha?
08:42:01 From Fred King : Yes.
08:42:21 From marcia.butler : I will have to try our next Playaway file
08:44:34 From marcia.butler : okay
08:45:13 From Caroline Cyr La Rose : You can also make batch changes at the staging step with MARC modification
08:46:06 From Caroline Cyr La Rose : (I love that tool lol!)
08:46:57 From Fred King : (happy dance)
08:51:47 From Caroline Cyr La Rose : +1
08:51:50 From arattler : I've been working on becoming more familiar with MarcEdit, so this would be an awesome topic to cover!
08:53:15 From marcia.butler : We are using just Z39.50 here would like to hear.
08:54:05 From Fred King : Yes!!
08:54:22 From Myka Kennedy Stephens : woot!
08:55:44 From arattler : How quickly will this recording be available?
08:56:12 From Fred King : "get the champagne out of the bottle" --James Billington, Librarian of Congress
08:56:14 From L1COOPER : Thank you so much
08:56:16 From arattler : OK. Thank you!
08:56:26 From marcia.butler : lost sound
08:56:35 From arattler : This has been so great. I've already learned so much.
08:56:40 From hthai : Thank you so much
08:56:46 From Fred King : He said it as a federal employee, so I can setel it freely.
08:56:54 From marieluce : thank you!
08:56:59 From John : Thank you!
08:57:00 From Caroline Cyr La Rose : Thanks Heather! It was very interesting!
08:57:07 From Fred King : Thank you!!
08:57:20 From margaret.brown : This has been great! Thanks!
08:57:32 From Myka Kennedy Stephens : Thank you!
08:57:41 From marieluce : cheers
08:58:01 From Rhonda Alderman : Thanks!

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Okay, good morning, everyone thank you so much for joining us. I'm sharing my screen and getting things situated a little bit here. So I can see the chat.

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And please feel free to unmute yourself, chime in share your tips and tricks and questions this morning, I'm going to do a walk-through of rank or the advanced bibliographic editor, and if someone can put into the chat, if you can hear me if my sound is okay, because I'm going to try to narrate things that I'm doing as I do them, since we don't really have a lot of captioning once the videos recorded. Oh great, thank you. Thank you.

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Much folks, all right, so the first thing that I tend to do when using the advanced, buy bread, bib editor to catalog originally is I'm. Simply on this screen and I go to cataloging, you can go here or you can go here through the button. A new record and I use the default framework for everything, but you may be doing it differently in your library, and my Firefox settings are such that it always defaults me to the basic editor I simply switch.

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And when I come in that way, if you have your browser set to the advanced editor, you might have a different template here, but this works fine for me in ours,.

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The Oh photo is mandatory.

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Ctrl D gets you a subfield delimiter.

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And please stop me and ask questions at any time whenever I'm doing a record, I try to always begin with the variable field, and this is not a real record I'm, not cataloging. Anything. That's actually.

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Real at the moment, I'm doing a total fake yeah. Let's see, we've got let's see if I can take care of that.

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uh We have someone saying me missed how I got to the screen will simply shoot over here, and you can get here through the cataloging tab or through more up here and selecting cataloging.

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You can do a new record, one.

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Weird thing like oh.

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You're not seeing okay, let me do your new share. There we go okay, starting over, looks.

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Good nice, okay.

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Great, thank you Jason. You can get here through picking your cataloging button here or through more and cataloging new record, and then you can pick your framework in my library. We just always use the default framework and if your browser is set to the basic editor at this point, you can simply say switch to advanced editor and there you go ready to type.

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At this point, I'll go back to where we were and I had just began. Keying and control D gives you a delimiter, and this is going to be a fake record. So, let's see oh.

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Great great point in the chat that you can only use the advanced editor if it's enabled in the system settings and depending on your version of coha, you may have to enable your particular account to use the advanced editor since there's a new system, preference or permission setting in the patron record.

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So we're just going to have it.

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Didn't switch back to the correct window, let me make sure I'm in the correct. Thank you I'll, try to remember that here we go I, hope, you're, seeing it now. Let me know yeah.

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It's blinking now you're good, okay,.

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I'm clearly a screenshare newbie, so nuts ooh is our author. Our book doing it simple. Today it's gonna be a book and when you're keen your indicators notice that sometimes it gets a little off. So you have to do your first indicator and a space and then your second indicator and then a space and then you're all set. You don't need to put spaces around your delimiter, so while you're keying- and this is going to be what to take to eat well on your voyage around the world.

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Chocolate copy, cheese and all.

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That field, a yes, must be explicitly keyed and that's something to keep in mind if you're used to cataloging on utilities like OCLC, where it's understood that Co hub requires seeing it and we might have, let's see where would this be polished? How am I getting the field tag, symbol, good question, ctrl D gives you a delimiter and if you're not in the right place, you'll notice, it shows up gray here, it's gray that gives me a clue that I need to hit a space and go into the correct area.

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Oh now, it's red, that's not right! So a good way to do that is to just back up type your indicator again. Space I feel a there. It goes this was published in well. New York, keep it easy.

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Totally real publishing or a logging testing in 2020, and you key an underlying symbol when you don't have a particular indicator. This has. This is a short book, so you can take it along with you on your boat 34 pages, color illustrations.

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And it's kind of tiny, so it's 19 some of the heirs.

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See I might be able to take your case. There's more noise I might be able to see who that is and and give them a hand with muting the.

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Yeah- and we do have a few people have called in, so they may not be able to get themselves on.

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Hey, let's put in a couple of notes.

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Oops from cover.

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Include bibliographic references.

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And that's all we're gonna do at the moment to keep it simple, we'll go back and do some subject headings and other headings and verifying, but let's hit save just in case. One thing to always remember is save early and save often now for the fixed fields. Oh thank you. Yes, I did mean a 588 field. It's I think I did well. Let me check.

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Let's go I.

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Tend to use cataloguers desktop, but anyone can go to oh wow Library of Congress is my bookmark is dead for the mark fields, huh so I'm gonna go to cat whoops I'm just clicking all over the place here and let me share my screen again.

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And go to cowboy your desktop. Let's check that mark field.

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Source of description note: this is a pretty new field. Yep source of description.

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So I think that looks good. Let me put in something wrong to show you what it does when you have something wrong.

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Not only is it in red, but when you try to save it'll, say it's incorrect and it will put these little black bars here to show you I'm having troubles with these fields.

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No worries Fred, no one ever who's, a real cataloger I think thinks they're a real cataloger, there's all things that were less familiar with and more familiar with, and we need to check on I've been doing this forever and, as you can see, I still haven't memorized. What my 588 indicator is the way to delete a field is control X and we should be able to correctly save now, which is nice I, like that. It does a bit of validation when it's saving.

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So in order to do your fixed fields, you can simply click in here and fill them in if you're familiar with it. But my favorite way to do it is to simply go up to the top copy. The URL go to a different browser and let me make sure I share this. There we go I popped into Chrome. I can put the URL of the record I'm editing into the top and.

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Then, when that's up I can switch to the basic editor. I could also do this in my other browser, but from my workflow it makes more sense for me to have one record in the bait one version and the basic editor in one browser and the advanced editor in the other browser. And then this lets you go into that 0:08 field, a little diff Lee with a lot more cues and a lot more information.

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So you have all these prompts that I think make it a little bit easier to quickly fill in these fields in the fixed field. So we did have illustrations if I remember correctly, we have maps and.

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I think everything else can pretty much leave the way that is here and we can also double check our other fields for our purposes. I think it's good enough.

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Get a hit a save Oh in my template required those fields to be filled in it filled in default fields. Great now we can go back to our advanced editor and do my screen share there. We are, and I can even hit reload to make sure I've got the latest version of the record that I've been editing and will see that I've got those newly done fixed fields now in here.

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So let's add some subject: headings.

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Let's see misson travels.

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Now we can do some fancy things that I don't do very often like checking the authorities from right here. I know, there's a way to do it.

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Well, you know I have to confess what I usually do. Oh here we go, 9:42 subfield two is a drop-down menu. Can I put a drop-down in any field? I, don't know it's possible.

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There's a lot that I don't know about the advanced, editor and I. Haven't done a lot of experimenting with authorities? What I tend to do is have my authority file in a different tab.

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And simply double-check, my headings here.

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On the on the 942, subfield I think that's set up in your your frameworks. It's.

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Thank you, Jason yep, and these are the only two that we use in my library.

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We use the Oh 904 local.

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ah Amber chimes and says she always checks the subject headings in the basic editor. It would be great if we could do it from the advanced. Editor sounds great. Let's give that a try.

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Let me put somebody real in the author field, then.

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Margarit asks tell me again: how do we check the subject headings in the advanced editor I? Usually just have my authority file in a separate tab, but let's play with doing it from the basic editor.

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I'm going to reload the record nope I'm gonna share.

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Reload the record in my Chrome browser and go into edit and this browser set for the basic editor.

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Allen Villiers.

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Interesting that field is locked for editing right now.

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haha Here we go so the way I got. This was the little tag editor next to it gave me a new window. The.

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Editor is not popping up for us. Oh.

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Okay, well, let's see I'll probably have to do it when we do a new share. Yep I have to do a new share on the little pop-up window. Oh thank nope. Here we go where's the little pop-up window. Oh maybe I can just do this.

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Yeah that work freaking.

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Okay, everywhere great I'm, just gonna share the whole thing.

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So got here through the tag editor, here's my search options for my authority file. Let's search no results found I, think I'm, probably misspelling his name. Let's try that again.

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Let me go into my Authority file and pick a neat. Let me just.

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Aha, that's interesting when I had it mostly typed, it popped it in no results found. Oh because if this is interesting, it put the subfield e from my bib record into this search main heading field. So I had to take that out there we go now I can see. That's the author, I want I can choose, and it's now in my record, let's go to our subject. Heading.

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Voyages and travels.

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And, let's save our record and in the chat the locked field may, due to a system, preference called Biblio adds authorities. Oh, oh, let's check that. Do you need an authority control system in order to check it in Co? huh Well, koha comes with the capability to import and key in authority records, so you would need those Authority records, I think in the in coha. In order for it to perform that checking you don't necessarily need it that way.

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You could check headings against external sources like the Library of Congress or aat, but a benefit to having them linked that way in coha. Is that say, the heading voyages and travels was changed to voyages or voyages travels and journeys. If your headings and your bib records are linked to that authority record. All you have to do is update that authority record and then it automatically changes all those linked headings which saves a lot of time.

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Did you build your authority filed you import it from somewhere.

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With most of our records, when we did, our recon were imported from the Library of Congress, with a lot of local records that were keyed in manually, the the previous staff had put a lot of non-standard local headings in the bib records, and people were used to our users were used to searching those. So we, when we did our recon, we keyed those into authority records as well and I'm doing a big project right now in order to look for all those local headings, upgrade them get the bibliographic records.

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Sometimes it's automatic I can just upgrade a local heading, pretty well matching yet different Library of Congress heading and then everything that's linked upgrades and then I just double-check, a few things that don't get matched and that other times it's not really one to one and that's a pretty long project.

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One can have that done by external companies, which goes faster, goes very well, but costs a lot of money. So this way with me doing it slowly, it doesn't cost us extra money. It's a slower project. It's a high quality project since I'm familiar with our collection and our subject area. It's a balance.

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So, let's check that biblio adds authority system preference.

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Oh so, here with what we've got our catalog is set to when editing records, don't allow them to automatically create new Authority records if needed, rather than having to reference existing authorities. I remember why we chose that it was because of all of these non-standard local headings. That tend to be in our records that we're working with. We have a question here: how easy is it to merge Authority records, let's say: I've reuben, William, Reuben, Billy, Reuben, W, James and they're all the same person I've done some merging of authority records.

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You would be merging them two at a time. We can go ahead and take a look at that.

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So what I am going to do is pick something.

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Here we go beverages.

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Nice lovely heading I'm, gonna key in a new authority record.

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And there's no advanced editor yet for authority records. I would love there to be an advanced editor for authority records I'm going to make this one. Also beverages and just put in a note, save it will tell you. This is a duplicate, I'm, gonna say.

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You can go in and re-edit, it figure out the problem.

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We're simply, oh.

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Let's do that again.

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Yeah need my o4o.

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Okay, save his new authority. I now have to.

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So here are my two Authority: if I had three to merge, I would have to merge them. I believe two at a time.

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Go to merge, oh I, think that's the one I want to keep. Let's do this one merge there we go merging with Authority beverages. Oh.

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I did it backwards. I kept the wrong one. It's very very easy to pull the correct one in just one reason why I picked one that was so easier, recognized.

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Oclc authorities is where I get our headings.

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Oclc authority beverages, we can do a mark preview, yep, there's beverages.

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And let's import that.

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Is this a duplicate of drinking alcoholic beverages? No.

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Now, let's see how many beverages headings I have.

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And here's the situation where we have three these are duplicates now. One way to deal with the three like you have in your situation is: if one of them is frankly, not real, simply delete it.

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If that's the one you can do without, but you'll have to reload your screen, because it's still gonna show to you and now I can merge these Oh.

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It might I, may have only one record now and it has to wait for a script to run.

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So I'll just make myself a note to check that.

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But yeah, if I want to look at this, that's really there.

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It thinks that's really there, let's try merging it. This way.

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I haven't done a lot of Authority merging I may not be doing it correctly. Oh.

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Evidently, I didn't hmm this is a case where I would go read the manual.

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Fred asks: is it possible to display the record number for all the records on the screen sounds like that might be useful. I wish I, don't know of a way to see all the record numbers if.

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You hover over details. You can see it in the URL yeah uh yeah.

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That is a way to do it. Seven, six, nine yeah.

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Fred, citizen can't enhancement requests actually I would what I would love to see on the screen?

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Is this? Oh wow no field, because that is the field that it checks to overlay authorities when you import them, but hey it's a big screen it. Maybe we could ask for both.

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So going back to rank or let's see.

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We get into here back to the screen. One other thing is that you can put macros in which are really handy and nice, but depending on what version of coha you have, they may be being saved in your browser rather than being saved at the coha level, we're in 1905, so the macros are still saved in the browser and I. Don't have my browser settings correct to save my macros? My laptop was just upgraded to Windows 10 everything reinstalled haven't gotten the browser set yet but over in the Koga wiki.

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Let's get over there.

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Is this page on advanced editor macros and here's where you can go to get them to copy them? But you can also like I, want the three XX fields for a book. Bib record I can simply go in here and do a real low-tech copy and paste.

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And then just do a little typing.

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Great Margaret says they work fine in Chrome, but can't do them in Firefox. That is really good to know. I'll. Try that.

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Another thing I've been playing with is Mark edit, and it's really easy to get these in mark edit.

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Margaret says sometimes her macros land in the wrong place. Yeah I noticed that when I was playing with them and putting them in.

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Now I'm going to actually delete those fields, I just put in to show you how easy it is to get those in mark edit. Oh.

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Thank you Jason for putting the URL for that page in the chat. So you can configure your mark edits to work with your cup of catalog through settings.

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And down here this is over ILS integration, and here's where you would enable and put in your Co, has Z 3950 settings your login and password.

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And then we go into mark editor, Kohut search, I.

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Get this so I can see it.

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We get care actually I can do the record number I. Believe. Oh.

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There we go here, it is.

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Thank You Barbara for the bug number about retaining the macros when the browser's cleared yeah I'm. Looking forward to that one and here's our record in Marquette it marketed has a really neat tool for the RDA helper.

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You can ask it to do all of these things. It does it really pretty well when I'm using Marquette it I tend to use it for these three 3x fields. I say just please add those and it adds them beautifully.

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And then from here.

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I can update it and it will ask should the item day to be updated, not right. Now records processed one.

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And if I reload, my record I see that I've got those RDA fields.

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One thing I've also been working on is using Marquette it instead of oclc's connection, client and I'm. Taking a lot of notes on that I'm not gonna, save the changes of the record and market it because I have some volunteer catalogers who are working on Macs and oclc's connection client. It doesn't run beautifully for them on Macs I, don't know how well it does on Linux. Also the connection browser for people used to just typing in their records. The browser is a lot slower, especially over the network connections we have and Marquette.

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It seems to work really well with OCLC as well.

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So, of course, we would want to put on items from here if you click Edit items, you're gonna get a separate window with your items and you're still retaining your record. Your bib record over here.

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We don't have an advanced editor for items, which is another thing: I would love here's another enhancement request or it may already be in Bugzilla. I haven't checked, but the items are done in the normal.

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What happens if you try to add at 9:52 in the advanced editor, they just reject it. Well,.

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Okay, it has one item: let's just go: try it.

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Okay, so let me I think the O is the call number.

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Let's pretend this is a coffee.

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What is it gonna? Do it doesn't like it Oh.

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And inside item guys can't currently be saved, bummer.

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Ok, we have a question: haven't used mark edit connected to our code. Yet can I run a vendor file through mark edit and update and save directly into go? huh That's a question. I! Don't know we have not done much with vendors and acquisitions, but Oh Fred says yes, that's great.

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That might be a really great topic for one of our future meetings, if, if Fred or someone who does that would want to present on how did how to do that? So.

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I have a question Fred on Mike. We want to hear you.

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Are you talking about importing the record directly from market? Are you talking about editing the record and market it and then staging it with Co Hoss tools and importing it co hot tools? Okay,.

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I guess I won't, try it. My response.

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Your right back.

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No you're not gonna, kill me no I have to say you do have my head swim aside with all this see we get our books from Rittenhouse. Wait. Wait. Can you hear me? Yes,.

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Good and we also have online books from clinical key and r2 and I just download the batch of records and add nine four I discovered I, have to add a 952 or you can't actually download them by batch.

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Koa, at least that's what I think is going on, but I am still working on that and then just upload them into koa, so it you can do it so.

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You see you're pulling you're putting the records, then co-op pulling them out in the market it and then pushing the changes back in to go. ha No.

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I'm pulling them from the vendor files that we get from, let's say clinical key download that open it and market it add whatever I need and then upload it to koa directly. For my now I see if it is MRC file and then go to upload are.

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You staging and beige.

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Yeah: okay, okay,.

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It's just that when you search for let's say I added I'm 42 was it see eBook, but then I try to search it in, say the search, advanced, search, search for eBook. They don't come up, I think that's because I need to add a 952, even though they don't actually have items. This has been really confusing me for the last couple of months, as you can tell.

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We put dummy items on our records. It facilitates a lot of searching for for records that don't have a physical presence. Okay,.

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What fields, actually you should probably ask you about email, because they won't be able to write it down. What fields are you putting in? Oh really, I need to do that too. Okay,.

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Let me pull up some of them. Let's look for our shelving location of online and.

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Well, that'll go up a lot of them. Let's just do that. Oh.

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Yeah and chat Carolyn made a good point that you can make your batch changes at the staging step with mark modification. That's something I haven't played with, but I want to play with more and.

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Ok, so here's an example of an online resource that we catalogued and let's go ahead and take a look at edit. This item records, so you can see everything we have a we're sure to have a shelving location of online. We are sure to have a call number in case people are doing a shelf list browse that a lot of these things were put in on our batch load. We don't consciously put in the prices, but- and we also put in item types- whether it's an online book or.

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Something like music, that's online. A lot of these are old online spoken word and that's what we tend to put in I'm glad you have a happy dance spread, and these these options are useful for some of our researchers, because if they are in the OPAC.

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And a lot of our researchers are remote users of our catalog who who never ever visit. They could very well say I, I'm, looking for books that are online and hit a search.

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And we do our best to create cataloging records for items that are available online. That are very, very essential for us very in scope that sort of thing to facilitate the sort of discovery we also turned on the connecting with the online library.

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So if people are looking for something general, it will do found results in the open library collection, and this connects to openlibrary.org.

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And let's take a look at one of those and it'll go. You can click that and head straight over here.

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And if there are open library results, they show up here and we're not seeing many of them with this search, but when they do show up it's it's a very. It can be very handy for our researchers, because if you have an open library account, even if the book isn't digitized and available for download it Kim, there can be a digital copy at the open library that's available for anybody. Who's created a free, open library account to actually borrow that online copy for a period of time.

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So I'm, looking at my list of things that I thought would be useful and that we're on the list to double-check and rank, or the only other thing I have to mention- is that unless you consciously close this window out, it's gonna stay here, because when you hit you, it launches a separate record or a separate window or a separate tab depending on how your browser set. In order to view your record, you're and I noticed it. Let's see nope, but there your edit window will stay here.

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So one thing to always keep in mind is to close out that window. If you want to avoid some inadvertent editing and you can always go back, the browser tends to remember whether you had it set to advanced editor or not, so it will launch whatever editor you have. If you go into the advanced editor by mistake, you can of course hit the back button. Nothing's been saved.

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So is thinking maybe for our next meeting topic.

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We could build off of what we've done here and perhaps either look at some more authorities, but those tend to be pretty straightforward or we could do some more experimenting with mark edit I I've, been working with Micah in Pennsylvania, she's, been really really open, with her workflow and tips and tricks and hints and I'm hoping to generate some useful documentation on how to catalog with OCLC and coha, using mark at it and coha in an OCLC connection freeway- and it's it's pretty fast- it's pretty easy, it's a little difficult to set up, but once you've got it set up and working.

A

It's really nice, oh, and uh we have some some plus ones and some positive comments for that in the chat so yeah. Let's, let's make our next session then on mark at it I'm.

B

Gonna unmute myself to say that for Co Athan that it's happening on April 23rd I have somehow been volunteered. Okay, I did it to talk for about market it for half an hour or so so I couldn't be asking a lot of questions such as. What do you think I should be? What do you think I can talk about for half an hour, I.

A

B

And I'm, most working on a few other projects which would involve building a library not using OCLC, which I understand, wants money but Z 3950, which doesn't including library.

C

B

S martini Africa is the Swaziland. It's going to be an interesting project that.

A

Sounds fascinating that sounds really cool and Heather.

B

I think you just volunteered to be the cataloging consultant.

A

Well, one thing that I really really enjoy about talking about cataloging and engaging with other catalogers and catalog cataloging positive folks and cataloging. Curious folks is that I learned so much so I get a lot out of it. So that would be fantastic, and one thing that might be really really helpful to Fred is at least you and I. Perhaps you and I and mica to get together on zoom and do some do some chatting and sharing and see what we can learn and develop.

A

I'm, really looking forward to the co Hakan I'm going to be tuning into that as much as I can so that sounds terrific.

B

Okay and then I can get up on my soapbox and say I think it'd be a good.

B

Creating a library from nothing using Z 3950 would be a good use for a co-op or resource-poor libraries, not just in Africa that elsewhere and if Co a u.s. can be a driving force behind. That would be a nice thing.

A

Definitely I'm a big advocate of that, not only because, of course, I love getting free records, but also since I'm, a federal employee in the u.s. everything I do is in the public domain.

A

All our records are in the public domain and anything that I can do to get our records out there and shareable and useful for people is furthering that mission for us and I know our library's really really specialized, but if there are any of our records that can help anybody I'm happy to get them out there, and that would be a great thing for us to talk about, especially since KOCO us is so. Supportive of this thing is how we can get the records out there.

A

We have about five more minutes on the clock. If there's anything else, let me go ahead, I think and stop my shares. Anybody have any other questions or would like to chime in with anything I'll.

C

Jump in on Sally your question about the recording: it depends on how fast it's a cloud, but I should hopefully have it up on our YouTube page by the end of today tomorrow, at the latest. So.

A

Terrific and I will be saving the chat, Oh.

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Fred I love that quote, get the champagne out of the bottle. Yes,.

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Well, thank thank you all for joining us and for chiming in.

A

I still have our original list of topics that we generated at our last meeting, but yeah we'll do the next one we'll do mark at it. Probably after that, we'll look at authorities and until next time, I'll see y'all on our email group and thank you all very much I think I'll go ahead and end this a few minutes early and everyone can get back to their days. I have a great day and happy cataloging, bye.