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A

Okay, we're now recording welcome to the NCW EU 2020 meeting. This is the NA meeting, so I'm just going to pop the link to the docs in the chat over here who wouldn't like to be the note-taker for this session.

A

B

Can take notes thank.

A

You very much Josh and um okay, so that that's one thing done: is there anyone new to this meeting? Who, who hasn't, who would like to introduce themselves or is? Do we have I, think I, think everyone here we've had before in the previous meeting.

C

A

Okay, so just diving into Rommel in the EU meeting and there they said the slide decks life now.

A

So the only thing that's left is the the content proposal and I think from the look of the content proposal and just going to pull that up pretty much the young. The only thing that we haven't decided on for the for the content proposal is the 201 local building test, but the the rest, the rest of it I, think we're ready to kind of put most of that content into the schedule with. Does everyone agree with this or do we need to flesh it out a little bit more.

D

I think in general, the.

D

Flushing out would would be up to the person presenting the local building test right.

D

Do we have so so in a sense, I think this is kind of connected to who's running which part of the workshop, um just because it's kind of hard to do like a demo when you you're kind of like I'll I, don't know what this is, can I just hit play somewhere.

A

So local building test, we live the definition for that. Just we're going to build something locally. If you leave it vague and fuzzy, and then you know the person who's doing the session will decide on the content for that, because if we try and decide it right here, it's just not gonna be a good time. Yeah yeah.

D

So um so maybe then maybe then I misunderstand your question when you're asking if this is too fuzzy or because I think it's I, think it's good.

A

I was just my question was like this: does this look good to check this stuff into sched, because I think that's the fell thing with the content proposal? Is we check it in? We check the content of the content proposal and it's good.

D

In that case, we should probably rewrite that that section, that's highlighted right now, because we probably shouldn't put, could we do something else here into the sketch.

A

Yeah I think there's there's like there's some notes there are. There is three sets of notes. We have. We had the meeting notes, the content proposal and there on the day slash. You know the run book kind of notes like what is this and that so I'm just going to share my screen actually with the content proposal, and we can just go through that.

A

Where is contact personal share y'all can see my share.

A

So dude dude there is the overview.

A

Do we need to have like an overview here or because I feel, like we've, captured this and descriptions over here.

A

Cw topics, 101 and 201: there's a bulb description underneath each of them, so an overview for, like the whole NCW workshop might be a bit overcome.

A

Hello, any anyone.

A

Let me just check the zoom check, cuz.

A

Okay, I'm just going to sing.

D

They're not gonna make it.

A

I just started hearing you good. Oh sorry,.

D

Just a couple folks saying they weren't gonna, make it okay.

A

So I was just gonna cut this chop out cuz. We cover this down over here and topics 101 in duo. One.

A

There's this bit over here where I'm gonna just leave a comment, because this is over here a kind of a guideline of the content. But it's not the description that we're going to chuck in the schedule and is that what the content proposal is. The descriptions were checking in the schedule. I.

D

I don't know I.

A

I I'm gonna look into this, but um yeah I think we've got both kubernetes binaries locally and do some fun things with them.

D

Alison, are you still sharing, am.

A

I still sharing, is it sharing you.

E

Are definitely still sharing also, finally, at a computer.

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A

Yeah I think the content proposal. We've got all the descriptions for the schedule. We can track it all in sched. The the descriptions I can write an email with the descriptions and send it to the relevant people who are looking after the sketch. Does this sound like what we need to do from here, or what do we need to discuss team.

D

um So so, so, even so, if we are going to send the content and I think what needs to happen is that each section of the of the schedule needs to have its own description right so, including the introduction communications on community. Do we just want to make that in 90 minutes lot, which is fine and then just say and and then just say what? What what and then in just write a short description like hey. This is a welcome to the community community context.

D

How the community works, how you should communicate what you, what you all need to get set up with the community stuff like that, so that needs to have that needs to have a blurb right.

D

Do we want to leave it at 90 minutes, total I think that's fine. That allows us to have some flexibility, I.

E

Personally, like the 90 minute block I feel like that's a that time box. Is it enough where you're gonna hit all they're like really big points and some of the finer points, but it gives enough time for the rest of the workshop yeah.

D

It's you can like have a welcome. You can have a PRA demo and then you can have people just set up with all the communication options.

D

One thing that I would really love for some folks to spend time on, for this is to make the slack and discuss set up interactive like actually have a welcome channel actually have like, maybe like almost like a little like a treasure hunter or something like you know the first, the first five people to like introduce themselves to each other in slack or something like that. But that's probably not on topic for the content proposal, so I'm, sorry, I'm,.

A

Just going to add it into the list, because.

E

I think the way.

A

Let's put a list of what's going to be here: mmm I do.

E

Actually like that idea was slack, maybe like one thing that comes to mind, is spinning up a slack channel just for MCW EU 2020 and like yeah yeah, that's their little space yeah.

D

And that just makes it more workshopping rather than luxury, but it does mean that we do have to have people in the sidelines, monitoring that channel and and like you know, interacting with people. It's like, hey like if some of us hang out there and be like yay, welcome, ask questions here. So we do need to have that. You know it takes more work and and preparation who's in charge of slack channels. Who can add us a slack channel ah I.

E

Can't actually, anyone can as long as they PR it against the like slack, config and community, but like Bob and I are approvers, so we can get that there all.

D

Right, that's a sign! Jeff Bob! That's my channel.

E

Isn't it Bob Jeff, no.

D

F

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D

Mean I would I wouldn't know I.

G

Have a quick question about the slack channel.

E

G

You need to open it now on the day of the got a bit of sunny.

E

So we can open it now or like a week in advance. There's the only people that really see new slack Channel requests, I mean unless someone's watching Kay community are the slack admins and yeah I would I wouldn't worry too much about opening it up early, but I, wouldn't do it this early? If that makes sense, I would almost like stage the PR and then hold it until a week before.

E

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G

Was kind of concerned about communication like when do you need to communicate this lecture to attendees I thought.

E

We were going to be doing that as part of the like intro communication. Saying like here is your introduction to slack and here's your own personal slack channel yeah.

D

Then we can have like little games like how many sake slack channels are there or like find find as user handle, with like three numbers in it or something like that. I, don't know and then give out stickers for the first person, like slack.

E

Fire stickers, I was.

D

Thinking honks tickers, but you know.

A

We need we need slack sparkles, sticky, you know the sparkles emerging, combine the slack positivity, you know, I know that's another set of stickers. I knew got one okay, we need sparkles yeah, um so scavenger hunt idea and creating a separate slide channel for the NCW workshop thanks. That's a.

A

F

We can do the same for for disgust as well.

E

Actually believe I think it was Barcelona. We did actually spin up a discus thread just for the new contributor workshops and then had people interact in there.

D

Yeah yeah I I, just I, just really wanted yeah make people make people get involved.

A

D

A

Okay, just this is good I'm just going through the. What else are things that we need to cover I? Think we've we've done the github slides raised. The I need to check the link for the slides into the.

A

Where is the link for this copy link? I'm just gonna go slides.

A

So if you haven't checked out the slides already I'm just going to be linking to them now slides.

A

And we've created the slides, and so now we've got this content proposal and we have the slides.

A

Well, it's um I think the next thing is a we need to just work on the slides and then figure out who's going to be presenting what I'm kind of unsure about the order to do all these things so going. If you can shed some light, yeah.

D

I have a couple of suggestions, so I think what we should do is.

D

So we can, we can. We can go uh sorry, sorry, I, keep thinking of new and more famous. Let me get my. Let me get my video on, so you could you all can see me pulling my hair great, so um I think it would be really good to assign individuals for each presentation slot.

D

That's a little bit tricky for the 90 minutes morning session, but the 90 minute, combined or like the combined content session, because there's a couple different things going on in there, but for especially for the afternoon workshops. I think it'll be really good to basically just assign the content, as people can just be like hey I'll.

D

Do this I'll do this keeping in mind that we'll probably want extra presenters, slash TAS for some of this stuff and but that would allow people to control their slides a little bit better and to control their content a little bit better, because it's really frustrating to deal with slides that aren't yours.

A

Absolutely yeah because I feel like if we, if we end up like Oh like going ham at the slides and then we assign the people, you know what are these slides I didn't I didn't make them so.

D

I think really good is to make sure that currently, the slides matched content layout in the content proposal that we have big sections lives, and so then people who are doing parts of the content can go over and be like. Okay, does this make sense to me? Do I need to just like toss them all out, redo them stuff like that.

A

There's a the the sites, the cause of the content proposal will kind of shifted a bit and we've added some new stuff yeah. We do need to revisit this by deck and update it. So.

A

I'm happy to I'm happy to look over that today to just go through the slides and cache that out everything what we also yeah, what we also need the and there NCW leads rail and I and and Tim Tim. We need to work on.

A

We need to assign people I feel like I feel, like there's a slight sense of urgency, because we need a lot of time to practice as well um like so the sooner we like how four slides the more time we can spend practicing and just making sure the things all the all the little things around the presentation like Oh does like. Does the steps in this demo like the hard box, all those things fall into place right, everybody.

E

On top of that, the more that you practice, the more that you'll, probably wind, up, fine-tuning the slides anyways that you're trying to power through so it. That is a good path forward.

D

Do we think we're ready to assign people today, I think the sooner that somebody can take ownership of a chunk of slides?

D

The sooner stuff is going to happen if I know that I'm running to pay our demo for one of the workshops, I can go ahead and get that started and like sign up with somebody else for you know and team up with the person who's doing it in the other room. If I'm reading this correctly we're doing just two separate rooms but with the same content so.

E

For the welcome yes, like that whole introduction, and for unfortunately, there was no way to get two rooms that could be joined and then separated.

D

Dr. fire in San Diego, so.

D

It's fine yeah.

E

So the the intro stuff- yes, that's going to be the same content in both rooms, but then, after you know, once you get into the separate tracks, yeah.

D

Yep so, but that doesn't mean to two presenters doing the same presentation, but anyway.

E

D

I was saying, is if I'm gonna do that, then I can find the other person who's doing it in the other room and we can like figure out something awesome together, or you know stuff like that.

D

I wasn't volunteering but attention, but like actually yeah, you should go through this list and see like and just assign people, and it doesn't have to be one person, but it could be just you know.

D

Playing who wants to do the introduction of.

A

How part with the introduction so.

B

We need to, we need to introduction teams, one free, true.

H

A

It's a bit quiet, Rob,.

A

Where am I capturing this and I'm gonna capture this under here, I'm gonna, put two Oh ones and the one oh I'm, just gonna put a giant list of people I'm putting the who I'm putting this in the content proposal right now, but we're going to shift a lot of the stuff out into a working document. So we're gonna have I I. Imagine we're going to have a document which is like a run run through document with who's doing what?

A

What like some of the extra details but for now is checking it all or the same dog. So there's an introduction that.

D

Will work for that because we'll have the communications and the community stuff which isn't you know and, like you know, what's a cig and how do I join a cig and what even is like? Where are all the repos, and what do they mean kind of thing? Okay,.

A

Eeehm, would it be a good idea to like crate, like some sort of Paulo forum, thing, that we can send out to everyone and see what they would be willing to present or something like that cuz I feel like we could. We could assign people in this cool, but not everyone's here.

F

E

Today is Tuesday, I feel like we should know who is doing what, by the end of the week, and we.

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E

A blanket asked out in Summit staff because.

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E

Be there might be some people that are summit staff that aren't necessarily NCW SEF but could take on a thing. You know they get.

D

There's somebody there to do it awesome, because that that codebase walkthroughs.

F

People ask kena the hard questions and that one.

H

That that could be a an opportunity to more savage scavenger hunting to see and to use the code search, UI I.

D

Want to hear more about that! Well,.

H

If, if we were to maybe describe something to find in the code and using using either gifts, github and or the UI to to a search, the CS okay, so I owe you I owe.

D

Like hey, who can tell me, let's give everybody five minutes? Who can tell me where the cube CDL code lives exactly.

H

D

Yes, I, like it I love it. That's crazy, I.

H

Sort of capture the flag, competition, if you will almost.

A

Should I just share this duck with sig contrabands, so everyone can edit it.

E

I

Gonna go ahead.

E

And say yes, because I have run into several instances of my own Docs, that I've created and then like people need access to it. I'm.

A

Just gonna go share it. If you refresh it, you can no type. Oh, look. It even sent myself an email.

A

So if you refresh the dog, you can now either suppose.

A

So yeah in slack we're going to figure out a way, so we can poll everyone for who can support and assist with what? Let's.

D

Let's try and assign as many people as we can, that I hear yeah.

E

D

Know, there's wait, there's only five of us right now. No I thought I was doing an important amount of cropping, but maybe slightly less so cool. So.

D

Who has experience doing the workspace set up? I have not run that one very often at all, but I know where Al has and I know. Tim has, shall we just go ahead and put them in there and just make it. You can.

B

I suggest annotating these with approximately what time they're! Oh yes, yes, because a lot of us are doing other things that the contributor summit also.

A

Because I yeah I'm just still trying to get the time we needed those time frames and actually like how many minutes each thing's gonna be and hey I. What I've got like how many hours on some of the 201 stuff but the 101 stuff? If someone could help help me out.

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D

I can see what we planned I can look into what we planned last time. Yeah I'll do that. Thank.

A

You going yep I.

E

Have to hop off soon, but it's almost going to be a seamless transition of Bob Jeff Jeff Bob, because Bob's bought a bomb so mm-hmm.

D

So what can we use? Anyone.

E

Anything in the middle of the day, I want to keep myself free for the end and the beginning in case there. Any fires, so I would have happily done the welcome, but I have my own welcome to do so.

E

Anything anything like between 10:00 and lunch, I think.

E

Yeah Bob will be home in a minute: bye, y'all, okay,.

D

Let's put him on find your first issue: yeah.

A

I was just thinking that too yeah.

D

Do you know how I waited until he signed off.

F

It's a surprise.

D

Josh, how are you feeling about the pull request exercise and what's your time frame.

B

What time is it gonna be approximately probably.

D

Right after lunch, yeah.

B

That's the same time as the LTS session, which I'm hoping we'd, okay.

D

Then um I would recommend Tim and Ralph for workspace setup and local building tests on the 101. hmm Wait.

B

B

Now, boy, what Kim Vallez name is: Tamara pepper, it's in pepper, because Tim peppers in the same LTI session, so that's 1:30 to 2:30, okay, so only to work around that time.

A

The workspace setup in the local builder for the 101 would that be during the morning.

D

And that would be after the that would be right after the welcome, so would that might actually be before lunch, because.

A

Then welcomes like 90 minutes, I mean what what time is things I? What I need another notepad, but I have no nope. That's from me because that's one thing like I've just got 90 minutes, but I also I have to look at. When do we start when it's like? When did the welcome finish, and is there a break between the welcome welcome and the session starting yeah.

A

Cubans not sure to summit year, 2020.

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F

Second, nine.

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A

I found I found the schedule yeah, so nine all right starts at 9:30 9:30. So.

D

9:30 10:00 11:00, so that would be at 11:00 for a separate topic start at 11:00.

A

So yes, so all the separate topics they started, 11 so 11 a.m.

A

And so yeah because 9:30 10:00 then I'll live yes, don't things.

I

Yeah I just put blanket placeholders for time in there this morning, yeah.

A

I was just browsing. The sketch Oh Bob.

D

That that sounds great. Can you, since you have seen variance with with San Diego and you are to sketch master, can you do you think you can go through the content proposal and assign slots.

I

Yeah, the the only thing a sketch was like breaking for me earlier today, like I, had to ask Buddha to update it, because it would.

D

You're breaking up is.

A

That just me you're frozen Bob. Oh there you go is.

D

It that cold in the Midwest.

I

It's actually like pretty it's warm out right now, like 40 degrees. Oh my.

D

Gosh, just like here.

D

Ya know what I was asking is just if you could throw some times and durations on to the content proposal that, because, if you are going to add things to sketch later, then that makes you kind of the perfect person to create those slots am I making sense, I'm, probably not making sense. I.

A

I

And I can chop it up it's to be. You know, however, much time is needed if I want to mimic San. Diego I can essentially just replicate it. Yes,.

D

That would be awesome. The.

I

Only thing just a reminder that, like do you beginner intro, we cannot share the room for the first part of it like they are separate rooms, yeah.

D

We we went over that and that's totally fine, because that's part of what broke the things with the screens and everything last time anyway. So um and I am okay. With this.

D

Let's see, no, we are just trying I'm sorry to to catch you up, Bob we're just trying to get like a rough feel for assigning teams for each section and each topic. So the beginning. The introduction communications community is kind of like a big blob, so it makes sense to assign more people, especially because we're going to have to duplicate it, and the person who does the Welcome doesn't have to be the same as the person who does the PR demo. That sort of thing so.

D

But let's go into the 101 topics and we're trying to work around people, skill Jules as well, so workspace set up in local building test, I sort of volunteered, rile and Tim. For that pull request exercise that would probably be after lunch.

D

Who wants to who wants to do the pull request exercise using the contributor playground, I.

D

Could I could I could do it? It's fun. We can honk at people I like that and I haven't done any 101 stuff at all. So will.

A

Be wonderful to have you doing the 101 stuff, yeah yep.

D

So that's cool um I want I want to reach out to the community at large. If we can to maybe get.

D

Who is it somebody I think Wojtek does a really good um kubernetes codebase walk through, um so that would be fun but like if but I also liked Rob's idea of doing a scavenger hunt, so that might actually be a contradictory, but anyway, yeah I can do the pony quest exercise, which basically means that we have like.

D

We have the setup for the 101 topics all covered. If you put my name down for the pull request exercise- and we can, we can ask folks who aren't here to help us out um I, you know I might reach out and get some help here.

D

I know that I can't yeah, so I know that some people can't do that time. I'm assuming pull request exercise will be after lunch and then find your first issue and that'll be the last one right for the 101 and find it for issue might take a little bit of extra thought.

D

All right, let's look at the 201 topics. We have the kubernetes walks through. It would be people really like that. One um I like making it a little bit I like the I like the the scavenger hunt. If we could add that as a as a point there mm-hmm.

A

Scavenger hunt yeah I'm happy to I'm happy to do the cake, a walk through this time round. Yes,.

D

F

Very cool, so, let's assign you fine, aren't I was Chuck, my name.

D

Nice and then, who wants to do the 201 build a test. I think that's done. I was.

A

Thinking so from from last week's discussions and then I think talk talking to Ben I think he would be a good person to ask to do the bullying test. That I think he's got a meeting clash at the moment. So he's not here so and.

D

The other yeah.

I

Nice, he is responding in slack. If you have specific questions.

A

Okay, I will I, will I'll ping him I'll ping. Him I've got this and we'll just go through to the label spots and get workflow mm-hmm so, and so this there's free sessions after lunch labels, but wasn't it yes, you can review you. Yes, you can review here and finding your first issue kind of closing remarks there. So um it's oh I am so sorry.

A

Somebody tried to have a meeting.

A

So we have we: where was I labels Watson get work, though, who would like to who would like to volunteer? For that I mean this is really fun. You can slash honk yeah.

B

What time is that likely to be that's.

A

Right, that's going to be in the afternoon, so I'm thinking the cake, a walk through. We have the 11 a.m. to lunch, yeah and then afternoon sessions local board and test that's going to take about an hour. So after lunch do we kick off at 1:00 p.m. after lunch? Do you know about.

I

Lunch I think is at 12:30 and sketched keeps literally putting me out after any time, I try and save something.

A

Ok, so I see everything else starts off at 1:30 again, so.

A

So this is one 1:30 till I feel like it's going to take, and maybe it might take an hour to do local dentist and because I you have these work space issues and pulling things from docker there's a lot of things that like can like, vary so then the labels BOTS and get workflow that might be longer than 15 minutes. I I just chucked something random in there. We can definitely do 20 there. Maybe.

B

Yeah speaking from experience, you can cover more or less content, depending on how much time we want to take on that segment. Bang is that wait for 101 or 200.

J

B

Going for the two on I kind,.

C

Of feel like four to one, we want to spend a little bit more time on that on the labels, but singlet works like Oh.

A

What happened to my screen? Sorry, I.

B

Mean we might be covering some of the same content and some of the other segments, though yeah.

A

That was one of the things cuz in the introduction.

D

Workflow I kind of built into the contributor plate exercise 101, but for the 201 we got rid of the contributor playground and just walk through the labels. So.

D

One of the things like it's literally just pure the quad commands here's a pod command reference. This is what happens. You've got to collect all the Pokemon to pass, go and collect $200.

D

Yeah sorry I didn't get enough. Sleep loss, I.

A

Love your analogies.

D

Yeah, hey Josh, let's put you on the morning. Welcome I can't hear you, but it sounds like you're kind of out for the afternoon. So.

B

Yeah I mean the problem is that we don't have an exact schedule and so I'd hate to put myself down for something and then have it end up moving to a time. I can't be there yep.

D

For sure, um I, just kind of want to have a point of contact for each of these sections so that somebody can own it get help ask people to help out.

F

A

I'm trying to chuck vague time frames in there yeah so I put 1:30 to 2:30. Then I was like to 32 to 50 ish, give or take, but I'm.

D

Happy through the timeslots with you and just like, assigned time slots, because honestly, a lot of this content will just have to fit how much time we have does that make sense. Yeah.

I

And I'm right now, I'm just duplicating what I can well sketch keeps me logged in, and then you know we can. You can go through and play it like anything after the fact. Okay.

D

Sounds like we'll have times signed up, okay, what still needs we have ten minutes left. What else do we talk about and who do we need to assign looks like there are some 201 topics in the afternoon that are still up for grabs.

A

So local golden test I was going to ask Ben about there. Then the elder and labels Watson get workflow. We need to assign that I put some times down for things. I put 20 minutes for this slot, we're gonna add more bull. This.

F

Will have brakes as well so.

D

F

A

That's right: we should.

F

Probably put brakes in there too, but but we can yeah, but just in general, the content.

D

I think I can't do the most thoughts and get workflow, because I think it'll be at the same time as a pull request exercise. Oh.

A

A

So would like to help out with the labels Watson get workflow.

A

I think I think everyone on the call might be busy at that time as well, and we only have we don't have the whole time here. Yeah.

B

So so I mean it's fine for some, so be open, we'll throw in on Summit staff. We have a whole bunch more people who volunteered to help yeah.

I

I push slack communication there as much as possible and asking people to sign up.

A

F

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D

Didn't quite hear what Bob's intention was.

I

Mostly just try and like you know, we have two meetings and there's gonna be people that aren't gonna be able to make them they'll, be communication missing from one or the other.

I

If we can push a lot more decisions, just like in slack or like when understand things are needed there and.

A

I'm happy to send out nothing into the slack saying this is what we need, because I yeah, because there's so many people who aren't on the call. But no. This is good us now going through an assigning that we can to.

D

And I am very happy to help morning.

D

Sounds like we've got good coverage there. We need to double check with Tim and Rael, of course, and with Jeff on find your first issue Bob. When are you available to do stuff.

D

So I'm not gonna label spots and get workflow because it doesn't take a whole lot of preparation.

H

Yeah I'd be happy to volunteer for that.

A

Means I'm going to put I'm gonna put in.

J

A

I can't I can't.

J

A

Okay, there's another session called you. Yes, you you you. Yes, you can review yeah. It.

D

Was that I have I have no concept? This is that.

A

Was that was my idea, I was I was like I wanted to do something different, so we can get new people into reviewing PRS, like is. Is there like, like a way to introduce them to the PR review process? How do you review yeah? What is it? What's? A good review, look like and kind of breaking down like barriers of. Oh, you need to be like three years of kubernetes, contributing like any kind of barriers that people might put up for themselves like when it counts or BMPs like because it's easier to say.

A

Oh, I might not be good or experienced enough to review something, but that may not always be true. Does it I think a good idea, I think.

F

That's a great kid: you should do it I.

A

Just wanted I also want like help from people who have actually reviewed quite a few ps2 because, like I mean myself, I haven't done here, she's reviewing that a voice I'm like I'm, a kubernetes Lorca like I I, was a community's looker for a while. So yeah I need help with this I. Just I just kind of wanted to this yeah well I'm. Turning to works out right now, but have.

H

You have you, looked us and Tim's talk from San Diego I.

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Would suggest that you take a look at that talk and because it's a it's a very it's it's it's a very good talk about reviewing POS from the point of view from Tim's point of view in terms of where he is with busyness, etc, and certainly it he would like to raise an army of people who can review POS and but but there are some caveats and that so in order to become a PR, reviewer and I would start from that.

H

Talk and review that token and see what you think Allison that there's that the one of the warnings that he puts in there is that you have to be careful about.

H

You know rubber, stamping and all requests and the the the the the way which you avoid being a rubber Stamper is to guess you know if you don't have the deep knowledge of the codes you have to acquire it, and in that talk he explains how to acquire that knowledge and- and sometimes that means so he has been two or three steps of what to do, to acquire the knowledge to authoritative, Lee review, a PR and and the backstop is that you talk to somebody who has who has and garnered the knowledge through knowing that part of the code base, and so it's a good idea and and I think that it Tim's talk will be a good starting point to springboard off of.

A

Thank you very much Rob yeah I'll. Definitely I'll definitely have a look at that today.

H

It's a very good talk, very good talk and Tim will be a good person to talk to about this I think wait.

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Go Gwen, can you go going I'm so sorry for cutting you? Oh.

D

No, no, no, no worries. This is Tim Hawking, right, yeah,.

H

Absolutely yep yeah.

D

Maybe he can give the presentation, especially if you say hey it's like a 20 minute thing: do you wanna? That would be really cool if he's around, if he's available, I don't know if he is so.

I

He actually asks me how he could help more, so I know he's giving a thing would be he's giving another talk sometime throughout the day like the 15 commands, I wish I do.

D

It's at noon. This would be towards the end of the day boom.

A

I'm going to ping him, this would be great, oh well, you can think of someone I just.

A

Okay, I think we've run out of time.

A

Well we're running over time.

A

The last thing we have is finding your first issue in closing remarks. I think there's going to be like the group of us in 201. Probably do you want to lead any of these.

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Mean what if we really really want you I.

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G

Let me check quickly, sorry.

D

To put you on the spot, take your time. I just want to make sure that we don't just forget.

G

How they feel something later cut I put myself in there in the back.

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So yeah I think we've probably pretty much everything. Thank you so much for turning up this is really good meeting and so our action items I just want to recap on those. So there's the slide so I'm going to go through and make sure those reflect content proposal and there's the assigning people.

A

Going to ask in about the the local building tests going to chase Tim Tim Hawking about the reviewing PR and.

A

And yeah and you go sorryy great.

D

No I interrupted, did you mention just putting like placeholders in the slides yeah.

A

Placeholders in the slides.

D

Or breaks or something I mean we should reuse them as much as we can, but presenters need to make them. There's.

I

Rail copied the the deck and applied the new template this morning, yeah some.

D

Of these need new new slides, and some of them will just basically need to be like. Why is this here and I would never say it that way, you know things and then we should Bob. We should have like a matching content to time slot by the end of the day, you think.

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That like, if someone else can get in the sketch and actually not have a problem.

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D

Have sketched things what I can do is I can go over and like ads, like estimates for the time next to each just fill that in I can do that for the rest of the day, and that might help with the sketch.

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For interrupting, I I.

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I think we've I the meeting recordings gonna be up. I'm gonna go through those action items, I just said: cuz I'm a bit hazy, I think I. Just forget we go my whole previous sentence, but yeah I think we're gonna cut it here because we're running a bit over time and I, don't wanna hold everyone's day out. um But thank you very much for coming and see you next week see you in next week or the week after we're meeting next week.

A

So there's a contributor summit, main meeting that happens every week and then there's the NCW meeting happens bi-weekly. So, okay.

F

Great, that's right. Nice I missed all the Monday's, because no because.

D

Hi I am much less fun and realized.

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Would disagree with that.

D

This is great, I think we're we're gonna like. Let's make sure we have everyone own, a thing by the end of the week. This is, of course, this feels like super duper chaos right now, but this will make for a wonderful experience for everyone involved with this workshop. I think it's just so much nicer. If you only have to make one thing awesome. Instead of ten.

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A

Thank you, Thank You Gwen. Thank you, Rob. Thank you, Bob. Thank you. Honored I really appreciate the old turning up and thank you. Josh who's like this and and Giff I feel like I'm, like I, was receiving like an Oscar or something and I need to thank everyone. Today, I'm really grateful for everyone. Who's like turned up and contributed towards this effort, so see y'all soon in the next meeting. So thank you very much. I'm going to hang up I.