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K8s ContribSummit Core Planning: Amsterdam for 3/2/2020
A
We
will
record
to
the
cloud.
Yes,
please
generate
some
energy.
This
is
going
to
be.
This
is
gonna,
be
interesting.
All
right,
we're,
recording,
contributor
summit
staff,
meeting,
I
love
you
all
I
must
start
us
off,
so
I
usually
have
this
subconscious
need
to
keep
like
personal
and
professional
opinions
separate.
My
professional
opinion
has
been
that
we
are
a
CNCs
sponsored
event
for
contributors
and
unless
cube
con
itself
is
cancelled,
we
should
go
on.
My
personal
opinion
is
a
bit
different
than
that.
A
So
Bob
and
I
had
lunch
on
Saturday
and
hammered
out
a
plan
B
doc,
and
then
we
sent
it
to
Dawn
for
consensus
and
revision,
and
then
we
let
Deb
know
that
we
have
a
cube.
Kahn
has
canceled
what
do
plant
I've
been
on
the
fence
about
the
summit
since
early
last
week,
and
this
was
kind
of
my
way
of
coping
trying
to
prepare
and
also
grab
lunch
while
ranting
to
a
friend,
though
yesterday
they
said
something
that
kind
of
struck
a
chord
with
me.
I
was
and
I'm
gonna
quote
this.
A
If
you
and
Bob
are
convicted
in
not
wanting
to
go,
then
it
sends
a
bad
message
to
fall
on
your
sword
and
go
anyways,
because
others
see
that
as
a
signal
and
pressure
that
they
need
to
do
the
same.
So
there
are
two
things
that
I
want
to
say
right
off.
It's
my
personal
opinion
that
we
should
cancel
the
summit
and
second
I
actually
am
going
to
pull
out
of
Amsterdam
I,
don't
want
anyone
to
feel
pressured
subconsciously
or
otherwise
that
they
need
to
do
something
that
they're
uncomfortable
with
so
before.
A
We
even
look
at
the
agenda.
I
want
anyone
and
everyone
that
has
concerns
or
feelings
one
way
or
the
other
to
voice
them,
we're
all
friends
and
we're
all
part
of
the
same
community
if
anyone
feels
uncomfortable
speaking
their
peace
here.
That
needs
to
be
addressed
just
as
much
as
what
I
just
threw
out
so.
A
I
am
foreign
p.m.
for
anonymous
comment:
PM
Bob,
PM,
whoever
you
feel
comfortable
with,
and
yes,
that's
me
now
that
I've
said
all
of
that
by
the
way,
I
will
link
the
doc
that
Bob,
Don
and
I
worked
on
in
the
chat
and
in
the
doc,
but
I
am
going
to
beat
myself
because
I've
said
a
lot
more
then
I've
said
a
lot
yeah.
C
C
We
should
consider
postponing
and
maybe
investigating
doing
an
online
event
and
like
a
month's
time,
wait
because
we
don't
know
how
long
this
is
going
to
go
on
for,
like
I,
don't
mean
to
cause
any
panic.
But,
like
you
look
at
the
news
and
they
say
that
their
months
years
days
from
finding
a
vaccine
or
something
for
this
yeah
so.
A
A
So
I
do
not
want
to
like
spout
out
facts
or
information.
I
want
other
people
to
go
and
find
their
own
thing
and
find
their
own
sources
of
truth,
like
I,
don't
want
to
be
anyone's
source
of
truth.
Any
time
I've
talked
with
my
friends
about
stuff,
like
this
I
am
citing
what
I
am
reading
and
not
just
leaving
them
blind.
D
So
I
I
have
some
comments,
go
for
it.
Thank
you.
So
I
was
gonna
write
like
an
actual
statement
at
one
point:
I
had
so
much
written
down,
but
I
think
Jeff.
You
kind
of
highlights
on
some
of
my
like
concerns
immediately
right
off
the
bat
if
we
say
we're
going
than
other
people
that
perhaps
maybe
aren't
in
a
position
to
say
yes
or
no,
we'll
still
go
regardless
of
their
risk
factors,
so
that
is
always
a
concern
of
mine
any
time
any
of
us
do
anything
in
this
community.
D
D
The
the
one
thing
I
don't
want
to
see
is
like
the
community
like
harm
itself,
somehow
right
and
my
think,
playing
with
infectious
diseases
as
a
way
to
do
that
in
a
way
that
we
never
would
have
considered
as
normal,
like
community
organizers
until
recently,
so
I
have
an
experience
in
the
field
of
just
disaster,
preparedness
and
so
forth
and
emergency
response.
We
have
a
responsibility
here
as
leaders
on
this
call
to
make
a
decision
whether
or
not
this
should
continue
forth
as
a
in
person
event
or
a
virtualized
event.
D
Sorry
sorry
I
didn't
mean
in
a
review,
but
I
had
one
more
point
that
I
forgot
to
write
down
and
I
need
to
mention
it.
So
as
far
as
like
I
am
willing
to
travel
wherever
Red
Hat
allows
me
to
travel
to
facilitate
a
virtual
event
like
I,
will
pack
up
gear
and
go
someplace
to
help
us
out.
If
that
helps.
So
that's
it
sorry,
my
bad.
E
E
A
Please
PM
any
any
any
person
that
you
feel
comfortable
with
PM.
If
you
don't
feel
like
speaking
publicly,
because
this
is
recorded,
please
PM
them,
so
your
voice
is
at
least
heard.
That
being
said,
there
is
not
really
a
playbook
on
how
to
propose
cancelling
an
event
and
in
fact,
like
I,
don't
know
what
we
do
next.
As
far
as
I
know,
I
as
the
event
lead
would
then
go
to
the
event
sub
project
owners
and
like
escalate
up
the
chain.
A
I
also
want
us
to
do
it
as
not,
probably
not
a
unified
voice,
but
a
pretty
darn
close
to
majority
voice
like
I
am
one
opinion.
If
everyone
else
is
agreed,
oh
heck,
yeah
we're
going
up,
but
I
need
some
guidance
and
I
want,
like
I,
said
everyone's
possible
opinion,
I'm,
not
sure
if
we
even
like,
if
this
would
be
a
lazy
consensus
thing
where
we
email
contributes
or
we
email,
the
event
leads
kind
of
no
I'm
saying
also.
This
is
the
first
of
literally
everyone
but
Bob
hearing
about
this
idea.
F
As
a
community
and
as
leaders
within
this
and
having
the
event,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
you
know
we
don't
have
a
bunch
of
groupthink
going
on.
We
don't
have
a
bunch
of
you
know
things
like
that
going
on,
and
so
it
does
need
to
be
open
to
the
community
or
larger
groups
of
people.
I
think
that
you
know
when
we
are
in
community
and
we
are
doing
things
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
stick
by.
F
You
know
best
practices
of
how
community
decisions
get
made
and
and
stick
to
that
and
stick
to
those
types
of
communications
and
because
people
are
going
to
look
to
you
and
others
on
this
phone
call
for
how
things
are
handled,
or
you
know
they're
gonna
say
well.
This
is
how
contributor
summit
did
it,
so
it
must
be
best
practice
and
now
I'm
going
to
as
out
to
my
events
and
so
I
think
we
need
to
be
cognizant
about
that
and
just
making
sure
that
we
do
that.
F
I
am
NOT,
going
to
Amsterdam,
wasn't
going
anyways
cuz,
it
wasn't
connect,
free
I
wouldn't
go
if
it
was
had,
was
peanut
free
right
now.
I
have
a
21
year
old
daughter
and
the
risk
of
not
being
able
to
get
back
into
the
country
or
the
risk
of
you
know
being
quarantined
somewhere
or
the
risk
of
being
a
single
mom
and
and
her
you
know
not
being
able
to
have
the
parent.
There
is
not
a
risk
I'm
willing
to
take,
but
I
think
more.
That
is.
F
Think
as
as
far
as
like
an
online
type,
a
that
goes,
I
do
agree
with
Allison
in
the
stance
of.
If
we
are
gonna
do
online,
we
should
do
it
right
and
we
should
open
it
up
to
as
many
people,
and
we
should
take
the
time
to
plan
it
so
that
we
put
on
a
kick-butt
event
and
it's
not
driven
by
dates
of
something
that
means
everybody's
scrambling.
F
B
A
Vent,
yes,
one
of
the
other
things
that
I
thought
I
called
out
in
that
proposal
is
the
fact
that
we
could
actually
then
open
up
the
NCW
and
one
of
the
biggest
concerns
we
have
for
NCW
is
conference.
Venue
infrastructure,
which
we
now
no
longer
have
to
worry
about.
I
was
just
I,
was
just
kind
of
trying
to
look
at
the
glass
half
full
in
that
situation.
A
G
B
G
G
E
A
I
I
mean
I,
guess
I
guess
maybe
maybe
I
have
a
absolutely
opposing
view.
I
think
that
you
know
a
lot
of
people
have
have
planned
to
come
to
this
event
and
I
think
that
I
think
that
if
the
CNC
F
goes
ahead
with
with
cube
con,
that
it
would
be
nice
for
us
to
go
ahead
with
the
contributor
summit
as
well
without
people
feeling
pressured
to
go.
I'll
be
honest.
Unless
VMware
slash,
pivotal,
says:
I
can't
go,
I
will
probably
go
I
mean
for
me.
I
It's
a
really
short
trip,
but
on
the
other
hand
like
I,
don't
want
other
people
to
feel
pressured,
but
I
think
we
also.
You
know,
you
know
people
talk
about
the
community
leadership
from
the
you
know
like
setting
a
good
example
standpoint,
but
we
also
need
to
think
about
it
that
there
you
know
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
have
spent
a
lot
of
money
planning
to
attend
this
event.
Individual
people
and
so
I
feel
I
feel
like
I.
Don't
want
to
put
them
in
the
lurch
either.
G
You
know
we
might
be
increasing
the
pressure
on
CNC
after
even
if
we
don't
want
to
just
by
by
saying
we
are
out.
Basically,
it
does
increase
the
pressure
and
might
even
lead
to
more
people
pulling
out
of
queue
cone
because
they're
like
okay.
If
the
contributors
are
not
coming,
why
should
I
even
go
to.
J
Not
necessarily
my
opinion,
but
I
would
kind
of
echoed
on
the
one
thing
that
I've
heard
other
people
saying
is
the
money
spent.
Can
we
do
deferred
commitment
and
decide
to
manage
risk,
I
think
from
a
planning
perspective,
it's
important
to
be
talking
about
the
plan
B,
at
least
in
the
meantime.
If
stuff
is
going
on,
what
are
the
the
plan
B's?
If
there
are
people
who
are
gonna,
be
there,
what
could
they
coalesce
together
and
then,
which
things
could
we
proactively
start
shifting
off
to
virtual?
J
J
It's
if
things
are
seeming
safe
enough
to
go,
then
I
probably
would
so
I
could
help
with
things,
but
I
also
think
that
it's
important
to
recognize
like
just
doing
the
math
numbers,
they're
they're,
so
little
data
right
now,
but
it's
reasonable
thing
to
think
that
somebody
may
die
as
a
result.
Through
these
choices
and
that's
serious,
you
we
there
was
a
joke
earlier
about.
Is
this
a
sword
to
die
on
well
like
for
somebody?
It
may
be
theirs
and
that's
serious
that.
A
D
I
I
I
mean
this
is
an
individual
risk
discussion
decision
that
people
need
to
make
like
you
know,
I'm
in
a
I'm
in
a
different
position,
right
I
already
live
in
Europe,
I
I,
don't
have
any
kids
like
my
decision
to
go
is
much
different
than
what
other
people's
decisions
to
go
are
and
I
should
be
able
to
make
my
decision,
but
not
pressure
other
people
into
making
similar
decisions.
200.
B
So
I
actually
have
two
things
one
from
p.m.
is
just
if
most,
the
staff
is
not
actually
able
to
attend.
That
puts
more
pressure
on
the
people
that
aren't
actually
tuning
to
be
able
to
host
the
event.
If
something
is
going
to
happen-
and
we
might
not
be
able
to,
you
know,
actually
put
on
a
good
event
if
if
it
does
go
forward,
the
second
was
like
just
to
let
you
know
Jeff
and
I.
Don't
always
have
the
same
opinion
like
over
the
weekend.
You
know
I
was
more
agreeing
with
Don.
B
Just
because
you
know
element
I
did
feel
that
responsibility
to
especially
be
no
European
contributors
and
people
that
know
can't
make
it
to
the
US
event
or
something
like
that.
We
are
trying
to
be
more
accessible
to
the
global
community,
but
that
same
thing
is
also
somewhat
of
a
negative
right
now
and
one
of
the
big
attempts,
at
least
when
you
know
we're
going
Jeff
and
all
this
making
like
the
staff
selections.
I
Yeah
and
I
think
a
lot
of
this
comes
down
to
I
mean
a
lot
of
this
just
comes
down
to
risk
one
way
or
the
other,
and
not
necessarily
just
personal
risk
too.
But
you
know
if
I,
if
I
say
that
you
know
I'll
go
as
the
lead.
If
Robin
Jeff
can't
make
it
and
then
VMware
says
nope
no
travel
you're,
you
can't
you
can't
go.
H
Feel
like
with
a
lot
of
these
summits,
when
we
have
everyone
on
hand
like
it's
kind
of
a
lot
of
work
to
make
it
happen
at
the
level
of
quality.
I
know
behind
the
scenes
were
like
suffering,
but
like
the
contributors
are
always
like
wow.
This
is
such
a
smooth
run.
Events
I
can't
believe
what
a
great
job
you're
doing
and
stuff
and
a
lot
of
people
work
really
hard.
H
I
can't
go
because
my
wife
reminded
me
of
immuno
compromised
stuff
in
my
family
that
wasn't
think
enough
and
I
don't
know
I
kind
of
feel
like
as
a
group.
You
know,
I've
said
this
on
Twitter
for
the
weekend,
I'll
just
feel
people
and
I
feel
like
we
either
put
on
our
high
quality
event
where
we're
a
hundred
percent
or
we
don't
do
it
because
I
feel
like
it
would
be
lower
quality.
H
You
know
like
I,
would
hate
if
the
people
that
do
go
find
themselves
in
a
stressful
situation
and
not
enough
staff
and
I,
don't
know
I,
just
kind
of
feel
like
well.
Maybe
the
better
choice
is
just
call
that
and
put
a
hundred
percent
effort
into
a
virtual
thing
where
we
know
we
would
at
least
be
in
some
kind
of
control,
of
the
quality
of
the
thing
that
we're
putting.
You
know
what
I
mean.
A
So
I
totally
I'm
a
hundred
percent
with
you.
The
thing
that
I've
been
thinking
about
is
well
two
things
one.
If
we
try
doing
something
like
all
right
people
who
actually
can
go,
we
still
put
on
like
a
summit,
but
it
is
not
a
large
summit.
I
feel
like
it
sends
me
a
mixed
messages
to
the
attendees
and
B.
It
would
be
extraordinarily
confusing
to
coordinate,
for
example,
if
for
right
now
say
we
for
this
example,
we
know
there
are
like
three
people,
plus
all
the
Googlers
that
aren't
coming
that
we're
speakers.
A
So
we
have
like
a
list
of
five
sessions
that
we
could
maybe
turn
into
virtual
and
then
the
other
like
15
that
aren't,
but
then,
like
every
other
day,
someone
may
go
I,
don't
feel
comfortable
and
they
pull
out
and
we're
just
constantly
shuffling
a
schedule
around.
Meanwhile,
we
don't
know
what
rooms
we
may
or
may
not
need
from
the
CN
CF
and
from
the
venue,
because
things
are
getting
shuffled
around
I
feel
like
from
a
messaging
standpoint
and
just
from
a
sanity
standpoint.
It
would
be
easier
to
plan
one
way
or
the
other
and.
H
D
J
J
E
E
D
A
J
C
A
Switzer
I
don't
mean
to
interrupt
Switzerland,
did
it
when
they
had
three
cases:
the
Netherlands
right
now
last
I
saw
I
have
16.
So
that's
that's
one
thing
I
also
want
someone
p.m.
to
me
if
people
are
paying
money
and
then
we
put
on
a
crappy
summit,
is
that
worse
signa,
worse
than
signaling
now
and
then
people
can
change
plans
and
maybe
get
refunds.
G
F
L
Happy
Monday,
everyone
yeah,
you
can
keeping
an
eye
on
this
for
three
months
now,
two
months
now
so
currently
cube
con
is
still
a
full
go
ahead.
We
have
not
changed
our
messaging
around
that
we
will
continue
to
keep
everyone
updated,
should
anything
ever
change,
but
for
now
that
is
your
going
ahead
as
planned.
A
L
So
one
of
the
questions
in
here
was
around
budget
and
how
does
budget
change
should
it
turn
into
a
virtual
event?
So
there
are
two
ways
to
look
at
the
budget.
For
this
we'll
start
with
the
current
most
plausible
way,
which
is
cube.
Con
is
still
scheduled
and
all
of
our
funds,
not
all
our
signs.
Majority
of
our
funds
have
already
been
contracted
and
signed
and
paid
for
the
event.
So
we
cannot
recoup
any
so.
L
You
will
have
minimal
funding
to
no
funding
should
you
switch
to
a
virtual
event
now,
if
this
is
again,
if
cube
comes
somehow
does
get
cancelled,
all
the
sponsorship
funds
will
be
returned
to
sponsors,
which
means
the
contributor
summit
budget
gets
wiped
out
to
$0
as
well,
because
all
the
contributors
summit
budget
comes
from
sponsorship,
some
of
the
top-level
sponsorships,
as
agreed
upon
last
year,
between
contributors
and
CNCs.
So
either
way
you
are
looking
at
minimal
to
no
budget.
B
We
already
have
the
zoom
licenses
and
things
like
that.
For
the
most
part,
a
virtual
event
will
be
free.
It's
just
time
in
terms
of
people.
The
the
big
thing
would
be
potentially
other
things
like
you
know.
We
have
all
the
the
shirts
made
and
how
do
we
get
those
to
people
and
then
there
are
other
like
couple
little
ideas
and
on
possibly
doing
you
know,
shipping
people
swaggered
or
giving
them
like
a
gift
card
for
food
for
for
lunch.
But
you
know
those
are
all
sort
of
you
know
secondary
got
it.
Thank
you
so.
A
A
Wow,
you
know,
I
wrote
this
and
now
I
completely
forgot
everything,
because
I've
been
focused
on
everything
else.
So
really
the
first
paragraph
is
just
us
talking
out
ideas
about
the
fact
that
we
may
have
to
cancel
and
what
do
we
do
in
the
event
that
we
cancel?
It
makes
total
sense
for
us
to
just
shift
to
using
a
zoom
webinar.
The
CNC
F
holds
webinars
that
have
like
three
or
four
hundred
people
in
them
like
every
week
and
having
hosted
a
few
of
them.
That's
actually
a
pretty
easy
format.
It's
moderated
Q&A.
A
So
one
of
the
ideas
that
we
had
was
we
would
pop
everything
into
that
moderated
Q&A
mode,
and
then
we
would
have
existing
summit
staff
be
the
ones
to
moderate
all
of
the
talks,
while
the
people
that
are
actually
presenting
can
just
focus
on
content.
So
we're
not
throwing
someone
that
was
going
to
you
know
talk
at
a
podium
to
the
Wolves
of
you
know
whoever's
online,
but
instead
we
actually
make
sure
that
they
are
focused
solely
on
content.
So
we
can
make
sure
that
this
is
really
high
quality.
A
So
in
that
regard,
we
turn
every
single
session
into
its
own
little
individual
zoom
webinar
people
can
join
as
needed.
Leave
as
needed.
Ask
questions
as
needed
and
an
additional
benefit
is
we
can
like
already
stream
it
to
YouTube,
because
between
short
George
and
I
and
other
people
that
can
easily
spin
this
up.
We
can
stream
all
of
these
individually
with
multiple
YouTube
links
and
that
will
automatically
record
everything
first,
as
well.
A
The
next
points
that
I
had
were
we
have
all
the
contributor
shirts.
Those
are
already
made
so
figuring
out
a
way
to
get
them
to
the
contributors,
because
I
know
everyone
loves
their
shirts.
I
wasn't
sure
if
that
would
be
a
thing
that
we
have
to
tackle
now
or
if
that
is
something
that
we
could
later,
but
it's
something
that
I
did
want
to
call
out.
A
A
Exactly
but
Lake
over-communicate
to
almost
annoying
degree
and
then
the
last
thing-
and
this
was
one
of
those
like
silly
ideas-
was
if
there
was
some
way
if
we
could
recoup
a
budget
and
reallocate
budget
to
just
buy
everybody.
Lunch
somehow
I
know
like
that.
That
was
like.
How
can
we
try
and
make
this
up
to
people
and
also
kind
of
make
people
interested
and
happy
and
still
like
I
am
a
kubernetes
contributor?
You
know
that,
obviously,
is
just
an
idea.
A
Most
of
this
is
just
an
idea,
but
there
are
other
bonus
things
that
we
can
do
with
a
virtual
event
like
we
can
do
trivia
in
between
you
know,
during
the
breaks
and
even
over
lunch,
we
can
do
other
kind
of
you
know
fun,
happy
activities
that
aren't
necessarily
things
that
are
easy
to
do
in
the
middle
of
them.
You
know
in-person
conference.
A
D
A
So
again,
sorry
I
forgot
to
point
out
a
very
key
thing
about
this
was
we
would
still
use
the
same
day?
We
would
use
the
Monday
of
the
original
contributor
summit
to
do
this.
So
back
to
my
original
train
of
thought,
the
Sunday
before
we
would
do
another
half
hour
meeting
with
all
the
speakers
and
staff
and
make
sure
that
they
are
good
to
go
again.
A
They
can
stream
their
AV
is
set
because
doing
it
a
week
ahead
of
time
is
good
idea
in
case
they
don't
have
things
that
they
need
or
they
need
to
sort
something
out,
but
there's
still
a
whole
week
for
something
on
their
laptop
to
change.
Doing
it
like
the
evening
before
is
a
good
way
to
make
sure
that
they're,
solid
and
ready
to
rock
on
Monday,
then
the
day
of
we
have
the
people
that
are
streaming.
A
We
have
the
people
that
our
moderators,
we
have
a
schedule,
and
we
just
execute
like
day
of
the
differences
we're
at
our
desks
instead
of
in-person,
one
of
the
cool
things
that
we
can
do
is
we
can
actually
still
try
and
achieve
a
sort
of
hallway
track.
Zoom
has
this
concept
of
breakout
rooms,
one
breakout
room,
absolutely
is
going
to
be
sig
Docs,
because
I
think
them
focusing
like
having
a
day
to
focus
on
a
doc.
A
A
Could
we
potentially
shift
the
new
contributor
workshop
a
day
early,
that's
a
little
drastic,
but
by
doing
that,
we
actually
then
can
let
the
new
contributors
attend
to
the
current
content
workshop
and
also
the
presenters
of
the
new
contributor
workshop
can
then
participate
in
the
current
contents.
That
gives
us
some
flexibility,
but
not
sure
who
all
could
actually
do
Sunday
and
a
Monday
like
that.
But
another
point
about
that
is:
we
can
actually
then
open
up
the
new
contributor
workshop
to
whoever
the
heck
wants
to
join.
A
A
Right,
but
what
I
wanted
to
say
was:
is
that
something
that
gets
the
axe
because
of
how
this
event
is
shaping
out
or
do
we
try
and
do
the
breakout
rooms
next
thing
is:
do
we
keep
it
in
the
EU
time
zone
or
do
we
shift
to
a
median
time
zone?
I
promise
I
am
NOT,
saying
this
to
be
me
centric,
but
the
times
that
George
and
Bob
and
I
have
done
office
hours.
A
Or
do
we
just
point
it
at
like
stay
on
the
netherlands
time
zone
and
be
like
this
is
literally
the
contributor
summit
we
would
have
had
in
the
netherlands,
including
the
time,
and
everyone
is
just
going
to
do
that
and
last
but
not
least,
one
thing
that
we
should
do
is
investigate
closed
captioning.
All
of
the
events,
after
the
fact
I
believe
George
had
said
that
there
was
a
service
that
he
knew
about
and
we
could
close
caption
everything
I
haven't
paid
attention
to
any
chat
and
I
have
a
bunch
so
talk.
K
So
one
thing
I
will
say
with
respect
to
the
meeting
great.
We
can
definitely
try
to
do
something,
but
I
have
a
feeling
that,
without
that
in-person
kind
of
guilting
of
existing
contributors
as
they
try
to
head
towards
the
door,
we
might
have
trouble
actually
getting
people
to
come
in
and
actually
sit
in
the
zoom
rows
to
meet
with
new
contributors.
That.
C
A
So
the
one
thing
that
I
will
say
on
that
from
my
perspective
and
please
tell
me
I'm
wrong
discord,
doesn't
do
desktop
sharing
nearly
as
well,
let
alone
video
conferencing,
it's
really
good
for
just
audio
chatting
and
kind
of
a
slack
alternative,
but
as
far
as
like
doing
zoom,
where
I
am
looking
at
you
Ellison
and
I'm,
pointing
at
you,
discord
doesn't
really
do
that,
especially
not
at
the
scale
of
like
potentially
having
a
hundred
people
in
a
room.
I
think
there
is
actually.
B
A
B
D
H
Way
and
share
to
moved
away
from
physical
conferences
to
virtual
ones.
We
did
this
for,
like
three
or
four
years
back
when
hangouts
on
air
would
automatically
archive
on
YouTube
and
stuff
like
that,
and
what
we
used
to
do
is
we
would
have
tracks
and
here's
how
I'm
envisioning
it
here
is
like
we
figure
out
what
we
want
to
do
and
then
we
would
have.
We
would
create
the
sessions
in
like
YouTube
right,
it
would
say,
like
I,
don't
know,
say:
cluster
lifecycle
status,
update
or
whatever
they
are
right.
H
Then
we
would
generate
like
a
little
schedule
right
and
it
will
be
on
a
webpage
and
then
people
would
see
that
or
they
just
subscribe
to
the
channel
or
whatever
that
way,
when
the
event
is
over,
the
schedule
still
works,
but
when
they
click
through
instead
of
a
live,
show,
they
get
the
archive
and
they'll
be
able
to
see
everything
in
order
and
stuff
and
that's
awesome
and
then
what
we
did
at
the
end
for
a
social
thing.
When
so,
after
that
the
sessions
were
finished
or
whatever
is
we
kind
of
had
just
a
random?
H
Hey
everybody
we're
just
gonna.
Hang
out
on
the
zoom
meeting
or
whatever
and
with
a
few
people,
and
then
we
got
like
drinks
and
stuff
or
whatever
we
kind
of
made
it.
Alright.
All
the
sessions
and
stuff
are
over.
Work
is
finished.
Let's
hang
out
and
have
a
good
time.
Then
the
audience
would
do
things
like
ask
questions
like
silly
things
like
that's
when
you
could
do
trivia,
it
kind
of
becomes
sort
of
like
a
live
stream
like
on
Twitch.
At
that
point,
you
know
where
it's
like
you
know
all
right,
Tim.
H
What's
your
favorite
feature
in
1.2
that
no
one
ever
used,
you
know
and
then,
like
you,
kind
of
get
the
famous
people
joking
around
a
little
bit,
you
know
brain
and
why
don't
you
tell
us
about
the
first
prototype
of
whatever,
so
it
was
like
stuff
like
that.
You
know
what
I
mean
and
we
could
do
things
like
give
out
t-shirts
and
stuff
cuz.
We
still
have
the
CNC
F
t-shirt
codes
that
we
do.
We
could
do
at
the
end.
We
can
add
in
office
hours.
H
We
can
add
a
meet
our
contributors
for
that
month,
right
because
we
have
to
do
those.
This
month,
anyway,
you
know
what
I
mean
so
at
the
end,
we
could
like
kind
of
tie
it
in
all
together.
The
thing
I
would
like
to
say,
though,
is
adding
discord
or
other
software
and
stuff.
We
had
news.
I
feel
like
this
is
our
first
one.
We
know
how
do
you
zoom
and
we
know
how
to
stream
to
YouTube.
M
H
You
know,
and
then
you
know
at
the
end
we
could
say:
hey,
let's
you
know
if
people
want
to
hang
out
and
go
to
disk
or
to
play
video
games
where
everyone
that's
what
we're
gonna
be,
but
officially
you
know
we'll
call
it
there
and
then,
if
people
want
to
hang
out
and
kind
of
you
know,
I
got
a
replicate,
staying
up
all
night
hanging
out
with
my
friends
and
they
do
it
over
video
games
and
that's
great
you
know,
I
can't
commit
to
doing
a
weekend
thing.
I
have
a
kid.
H
So,
oh
em,
the
other
thing
I
do
want
to
say
is
the
streamers.
If
we
do
do
this,
when
we
do
meet
our
contributors
and
office
hours,
I
can
host
and
stream
and
stuff
at
the
same
time
and
do
a
whole
bunch
of
things.
There's
no
way.
We
can
pull
that
off
with
multiple
sessions.
We're
gonna
have
to
make
sure
you
know,
like
everything
is
like
all
the
roles
are
kind
of
a
line
in
the
sand,
and
then
we
have
people.
You
know
dedicated
to
listening.
You
know
and
we'll
have
to
do.
H
The
thing
like
we'll
have
mobile
phones,
so
we
can
see
the
quality
of
the
feed
like
we'll
have
to
figure
all
that
stuff
out.
So
I
just
wanted
to
to
remind
everybody
that
there's
a
lot
of,
because
if
we
wanted
to
go
back
to
back
to
back
I
can't
stream
for
three
hours
straight
I'll
have
to
stream
and
then
Chris
will
have
to
like
I'll
stop
and.
G
A
The
original
proposal
was
yes,
we
would
literally
do
it
the
day
of
as
if
it
were
yeah
as
if
it
were
the
contributor
summit,
because
this
is
also
the
original
proposal
was
also
assuming
cube.
Con
got
cancelled
and
they
moved
to
virtual,
so
we
would
just
be
doing
the
same,
and
then
it
would
just
be
virtual
cube
con.
A
B
A
A
H
George
had
his
hand
raised
first
also
wanted
to
point
out.
We
have
enough
streamers
and
people
I
think
that
the
time
zone
thing
we
could
start
in
Europe
and
then
just
keep
going.
If
there's
someone
on
the
west
coast
that
can
keep
you
know
what
I
mean
like
it
doesn't
have,
we
don't
have
to
start
so
we
could
start
at
early
in
Europe
and
as
long
as
we
have
enough
people,
the
entire
event
could.
H
A
H
I'm,
you
know
I'm
just
saying
the
reminder.
Is
we
don't
we're
not
limited
by
that
right
like
if,
if
you
had
a
cig
or
something
that
when
I
do
a
session
and
one
person
is
in
Europe,
they
could
do
it
in
Europe
and
then,
when
the
West
coaster
wakes
up
eight
hours
later
or
whatever,
and
we
have
the
streaming
capacity,
they
could
do
it
again
if
they
want
I.
Would.
H
Yeah
I'm
not
saying
it's
good
or
bad
I'm,
just
saying
it's
an
option
because
yeah
we
can,
we
can
hold
it
for
as
long
as
we
want
lucky
and
I
had
talked
about
doing
a
24-hour
like
crazy
thing
like
that.
But,
like
you
know,
I'm,
not
saying
that's
an
idea,
but
what
I'm
saying
is
we're
not
artificially
limited
when
we're
stopping.
J
The
brainstorming,
but
if
we're
talking
about
the
same
day,
we're
it's
a
month
from
today,
we
got
to
figure
out
how
to
pull
something
off
good,
then
scope
reduction
dramatically
might
come
in
handy
and
and
if
we
do
this
first
one
kind
of
minimal
viable,
we
figure
out
maybe
how
to
grow
from
there
and
do
more
cuz.
There
is
a
lot
of
great
community
possibility
by
having
a
virtual
event,
I.
I
A
C
I
feel
like
if
we
want
to
do
a
virtual
thing,
there's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
nuance
like
trying
and
practicing
things
like
I
said
before.
The
we're
gonna
need
to
like
have
this
little
setup
with
mobile
phones
and
see
the
quality
of
the
stream
like
I.
Think
two
weeks
out
might
be
a
bit
ambitious,
but
that's
just
me
being
overly
cautious.
That's.
I
About
is
people's
schedules
so
right
now,
I'm
totally
blocked
off
for
the
contributor
summit.
So,
if
cube
con
doesn't
happen,
that
day
is
still
blocked
and
I
could
easily
do
a
virtual
event
all
day.
If
you
just
push
it
out
for
two
weeks,
a
bunch
of
other
people
aren't
going
to
be
able
to
fit
it
into
their
schedules,
and
so,
if
we,
if
we
decide
to
cancel
it
and
push
it
out,
I
think
we're
gonna
have
to
give
people
a
little
more
lead
time.
I.
D
Want
a
second
that
for
Dawn
he
has
like
right
now:
I
can
do
whatever
I
need
to
that
week,
because
I
already
have
travel
book
and
I
can
just
read
book
that
that
would
include
picking
up
all
the
gear
and
going
someplace
here
in
North
America
to
go
stream
from
someplace
else
or
geographically
friendly.
For
somebody.
A
For
for
what
it's
worth,
I
am
in
the
mindset
of
trying
to
explore
options.
My
personal
opinion
was
we
run
of
the
day
of
regardless,
because
the
lake,
if
people,
if
there
is
still
a
cube,
con
and
people,
still
go
to
cube
con,
but
they
were
going
to
come
to
the
contributor
summit.
They
have
a
free
day
and
there
there
are
places
with
Wi-Fi
now
I'm
saying
this,
knowing
that
it
is
not
going
to
be
ideal,
and
it
is
probably
going
to
be
painful
for
some
if
they
are
stuck
in
that
situation.
A
But
the
other
positive
is
everything
is
going
to
be
recorded
and
if
they
are
found
in
a
position
where
they
don't
have
internet,
they
can
at
least
then
go
and
watch
the
sessions
anyways,
but
because
we
all
have
these
days
blocked
off
and
because
we
were
already
advertising.
This
is
the
day.
I
would
personally
want
to
keep
it
that
day,
but
I
could
also
see
us
pushing
it
out,
but
that's
not
what
I
would
do.
A
G
E
E
does
it
feel
right
to
put
something
out
to
the
community
and
see
what
the
temperature
is
there
I
would
hate
to
either
way
depending
upon
what
the
CNC
F
does
to
make
a
decision
where
we're
making
it
just
us
and
well
I,
think
we're
all
being
very
mindful
of
the
community,
we're
just
not
asking
them.
Yeah
I
just
didn't.
K
D
A
No
need
to
apologize,
never
apologize
for
voicing
your
opinion,
so
this
kind
of
goes
back
to
what
I
said
way
in
the
beginning.
I
am
personally
proposing
that
the
contributor
summit
gets
canceled.
I
am
also
the
lead,
but
do
I
even
have
the
authority
to
actually
cancel
the
summit,
or
does
that
have
to
go
to
the
event
sub
project
owners,
regardless
of
like
what
is
the
path
forward?
The
one
thing
I
do
know
is:
it
doesn't
go
to
steering.
H
A
While
you
do
that,
there's
another
point
that
I
do
want
to
make
I
used
to
be
a
web
designer
and
designed
by
committee,
makes
me
want
to
do
very
horrible
things.
At
the
same
time,
I
understand
that
we
are
community
but
we're
a
community
of
the
entire
reason.
Let
me
back
up
the
entire
reason
why
lazy
consensus
came
up
was
because
I
became
a
thing
is
because
we
can
be
wishy-washy.
A
We
can
also
like
take
forever
to
respond
to
something
so
while
I'm,
okay
with
the
idea
of
pulling
the
community
I
at
least,
want
to
come
out
of
this
meeting
with
a
single
message
and
then
based
on
that
message
is
what
we
can
then
go
forward
with
whether
that
is
going
to
the
event
sub-project
donors,
whether
that's
going
to
contributes
as
an
emailing
list
and
going
hey,
you've,
got
72
hours
to
complain.
Otherwise
this
is
happening.
You
know,
like
I,
still,
don't
actually
know
how
we
would
do
this
transition
we're
a
new
ground
here.
A
I
A
J
G
I
Cf
cancels
we
would
cancel,
but
we
might
move
to
a
virtual
event
on
the
same
day.
So
that's
that's
one
so
one.
Let
me
just
let
me
sout
line
this.
So
one
possible
decision
is
cube.
Con
is
cancelled
and
we
decide
to
hold
a
virtual
event
on
what
would
have
been
day.
Zero.
That's
one
option.
Another
option
is
we
decide
to
cancel
out
right,
regardless
of
what
cube
con
decides
to
do
and
at
that
point
I
suppose
hold
a
virtual
event
at
some
point
in
the
future.
A
A
K
A
A
D
D
I
D
H
H
A
Thank
you,
George.
Alright,
it
is
almost
2
o'clock.
I
am
going
to
create
an
issue
when
I
create
the
issue.
I
will
ping
in
Summit
staff
beforehand
just
go
ahead
and
decide.
The
event
leads.
I
absolutely
will
and
keep
in
mind
my
opinions
on
this,
though
personal
and
somewhat
professional
I,
really
just
care
about
y'all
and
I.
Don't
want
anyone
to
get
sick,
let
alone
me.
I
was.