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A
Good
morning,
everyone
we
are
we're
on
a
live
webcast.
So
let's
get
the
meeting
started.
So
welcome
to
this
morning's
licensing
committee.
My
name
is
councilor
James
Gibson
I'm,
chair
of
the
committee
and
I'm,
going
to
go
around
please
and
invite
attendees
to
introduce
themselves.
If
we
go
from
left
and
work
our
around
please
good.
H
I
Morning,
Lucy
kinsella
event
manager
for
Leeds
Festival,
Republic.
I
Morning,
Jeannie
leech
licensing
coordinator,
Leeds,
Festival,
Republic.
K
A
Thank
you.
Everyone
and
good
morning,
I'll
now
hand
over
to
the
clerk
please
to
go
for
a
gender
items
number
one
to
five.
P
Thank
you,
chair
under
agenda
item
number
one.
There
are
no
appeals
against
refuse
of
inspection
of
documents
under
agenda
item
two.
The
agenda
contains
no
exempt
information
on
this
occasion,
but
members
will
note
that,
although
the
report
on
the
agenda
today
contains
no
exempt
or
sensitive
information
which
may
require
the
press
or
public
to
be
excluded
from
the
meeting,
members
May
seek
to
discuss
some
information
which
is
currently
not
in
the
public
domain
and
paragraph
two
of
the
report
does
allude
to
that.
P
So
at
that
point,
if
the
members
do
wish
to
discuss
something
in
private,
we
will
be
asked
to
resolve
that
the
meeting
goes
into
private
session.
Thank
you
under
agenda
item
three.
There
are
no
formal
late
items
added
to
the
agenda,
but
members
are
in
receipt
of
a
supplementary
pack
of
information
which
contained
a
submission
from
public
health
and
from
traffic,
and
those
officers
have
submitted
their
apologies
for
today
under
agenda
item.
Four
could
I
ask
members
to
make
any
Declarations
of
Interest
please.
P
A
Ellen
and
gender
item
number
six,
then
please,
which
is
a
meeting
of
previously
held
meeting
held
on
the
29th
of
the
November
2022.
Do
members
accept
these
as
a
true
and
accurate
record,
so
no
objections
so
I'll
accept
those,
and
we
shall
move
on
to
agenda
item
number
seven,
please
so
before
I
invite
officers
from
the
entertainment
licensing
section
to
introduce
this
item
can
I.
A
A
J
J
J
The
license
contains
condition
that
requires
the
event
management
plan
and
any
revisions
to
it
to
be
approved
by
the
licensing
committee
prior
to
each
event,
and
the
report
gives
details
on
agency
engagement
through
the
safety
advise
of
a
group
process
for
both
pre-event
planning
and
post
event.
Debrief.
J
J
Paragraphs
three
to
nine
of
the
report
provides
a
commit
with
the
event
history
and
information
regarding
the
delegation
of
approval
of
the
event
management
plan
for
the
last
for
last
year's
event
to
help
identify
improvements
for
subsequent
events.
Paragraphs
10
to
12
of
the
report
touch
on
agency
engagement
and
the
working
group
created
by
whether
being
award
Ward
and
Parish
councilors.
J
Finally,
the
committee
will
not
a
supplementary
item
to
the
agenda,
which
is
two
statements
providing
feedback
from
public
health
in
the
highways
Department.
No
representation
on
behalf
of
those
departments
is
available
for
today's
meeting
and
should
members
have
any
questions
on
those
subjects
which
remain
outstanding,
I'll
make
a
note,
seek
answers
and
provide
feedback
by
email.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
Q
Joe,
thank
you
very
much.
I'll
go
through
really
I
think
on
the
agenda
items
as
they
are
really
and
I'll
start
with
fire
safety.
Q
Therefore,
one
of
the
areas
that
we
spoke
about
before
the
festival-
and
in
fact
you
know,
spent
quite
a
bit
of
time
with
your
offices
on-
was
the
the
worry
around
the
Netflix
program
that
was
Woodstock
99,
where
there
were
where
there
was
fairly
significant
disorder
and
setting
fire
to
tents
and
other
infrastructure
items
and
the
concern
that
I
had
that
there
may
be
a
copycat
activity
at
Leeds
Festival
because
it
was
net.
Q
Q
You
know
it
had
been
a
drive
period
as
well,
but
it
was
principally
because
of
that
that
that
issue
and
that
didn't
materialize,
I'm
pleased
to
say
there
were
an
increase
in
campfires
and
campfires
reported
Etc,
but
that
that
deliberate
vandalism
and
or
damage
that
we
may
have
expected
as
a
result
of
Woodstock
99
being
shown.
So
you
know
so
widely
didn't
materialize,
albeit
there
was
an
increase
in
tent
set
on
fire
on
the
campsite
compared
to
previous
years.
Q
You
know
for
many
years
actually
to
that
end
well,
I
mean.
Certainly
in
respect
of
that.
You
know
we
I
think
we've
submitted
all
the
the
reports
there
on
the
numbers,
but
we
did
apply.
You
know
provide
two
additional
appliances,
an
additional
Footwear
4x4
response
and
11
000
tank
response
units.
Q
So
you
know
we.
We
really
did
you
know
gear
up
and
we
are,
as
you
know,
I
think
we're.
We
saw
what
was
in
22
29
large
rubbish
fires
versus
17
in
21..
It's
it's,
it's
a
you
know
reasonable
increase.
There
was
eight
tent
fires
versus
two
in
21,
so
again
an
increase
and
seven
fires
involving
gas
canisters.
So
you
know
we
did
see
an
increase.
Q
Q
We
are
Banning
that
from
2023,
principally
on
the
environmental
grounds
of
you,
know,
burning
toxic
waste
Etc
and
we
think
that
will
carry
some
good
favor
with
the
with
the
audience
that
are
here
that
come
to
the
festival
and
campfire's
no
longer
been
allowed
very
much
in
line
with
what
is
our
green
Nation
Charter,
it
will
I
hope,
have
an
added
benefit
of
of
reducing.
You
know,
potential
tent
fires
and
things
like
that.
Q
But
the
principal
reason
is
very
much
in
in
terms
of
the
green
Nation,
Charter
welfare
and
safeguarding.
A
Sorry,
Mr
Ben
can
I
just
just
stop
you
just
there
just
very
quickly
on
on
items
two
on
the
report.
It
does
actually
say
that
medical
will
be
moved
to
close
session.
We
did
have
a
conversation
this
morning
with
with
legal
and
with
the
clerk,
and
we've
decided
that
medical
can
be
included
in
in
item
number
one
on
the
report
so
I'm
just
giving
you
a
heads
up
that
you
might
want
to
address
that
it
will
be
some.
A
There
will
be
further
discussion
around
David
in
in
the
closed
session
under
medical
and,
obviously,
given
that
there's
an
inquiry
ongoing
that
would
be
appropriate
to
do
so,
but
the
wider
medical,
if
you
like
him,
you
know
sort
of
medical
provision.
Etc
can
be
discussed
under
part
one
in
an
open
session.
Q
Of
course
yeah.
Thank
you
very
much.
Safeguarding
and
Welfare.
We
had
spent
a
lot
of
time
doing
a
lot
of
work
to
promote
the
large
variety
of
safeguarding
services.
We
have
on
site
at
Leeds,
including
promo
video
that
was
played
on
the
main
stage
screens
throughout
the
weekend.
Q
Second
year
of
running
the
lookout
for
each
other
campaign
created
by
you
know,
the
festival,
advice
campaigns,
teams
that
was
set
up
in
2021,
and
it
is
it's
chaired
by
Dan
burn
Daniel
Ben
here
from
Leeds
city
council
and
the
group
meet
regularly
to
update
messaging
and
comms
again
23.
We
will
continue
with
that.
Q
We
will
engage
additional
people
and
we're
looking
at
additional
people
to
engage
already,
and
we've
asked
some
of
your
counselors
to
check
out
a
particular
group
that
were
Council
officers
to
check
out
a
particular
group
that
we
want
to
work
with
to
see
whether
they
have
the
relevant
credentials
that
we
believe
that
they
have
safeguarding
coordinator
and
assistant
appointed
to
liaise
with
all
safeguarding
organizations
on
site
and-
and
you
know,
to
coordinate
a
cohesive
response
to
safeguarding
incidents
and
I.
Do
think
that
that
worked.
Q
Q
A
little
more
safeguarding
organizations
involved
in
Leeds
Festival
in
22
Brooke
advice
with
a
festival,
Angels
Salvation,
Army,
Samaritans,
Narcotics,
Anonymous,
safe
Geeks
for
women,
sexual
assault,
reference
referral
center
and
forward
leads
providing
advice
on
drugs
and
alcohol
numbers.
Q
2022
we
saw
within
the
safeguarding
areas
as
such.
We
saw
8
400
people
2020
one.
We
saw
at
19
just
short
of
20
000
people,
a
drop
of
57
principal
reasons.
Are,
you
know,
Sun
cream
water,
signposting
sitting
and
resting
some
food
charging
under
18
wristbands,
some
Sexual
Health.
Obviously,
with
people
like
Brook
there
earplugs
toilet
issues,
hand,
sanitizer,
accessibility,
support.
Q
Q
Two
additional
safe
hubs
were
provided
in
22,
seven
throughout
the
festival
they
they
were
effectively
friendly
and
supportive
people
in
campsites
to
be
able
to
provide
welfare
and
a
sympathetic
here
and
supported
the
as
well
as
a
reporting
service
back
into
event.
Control.
If
that
was
needed,
plan
for
2023
is
the
to
replace
the
safe
homes
has
been
called
safe
and
be,
you
know,
really
refocused
them,
what
they
should
be,
probably
as
campsite
campsite
welfare
points,
welfare
and
safeguarding.
Q
We
introduced
the
ask
for
Angela
campaign,
which
I
did
at
all
of
my
festivals.
Last
year.
It
was
pretty
comprehensively
rolled
out,
it
wasn't
massively
used,
but
it
was
pretty
comprehensively
rolled
out
and
audited
by
some
of
my
teams.
Q
The
ask
for
Angela
I'm
sure
everybody
is
aware,
but
it
is
that
a
a
campaign
around
being
able
to
go
to
a
bar,
a
security
person,
a
welfare
person
Etc
and
ask
for
Angela,
and
that
is
the
only
three
words
that
you
need
to
utter
and
my
stewards
and
bar
staff
Etc
at
that
point,
know
to
take
you
to
a
safe
place,
because
the
person
asking
for
Angela
feels
that
they
are
being
harassed
or
stalked
or
followed.
Q
Q
So
that's
a
new
thing
for
us
spiking.
It
was
very
much
on
the
agenda
for
many
people.
Last
year
we
purchased
2
000
drinks,
spiking
check
tests
from
check
your
drink
and
made
them
available
to
purchase
from
the
welfare
tent.
We
also
purchased
100
urine
tests
for
the
Medics
statistic.
Patients
have
been
spanked
and
you
know
those
urine
tests
were
a
a
small
number
were
sent
away
for
testing.
Q
There
were
reports
of
25
potential
spikings
in
total
of
these
10
were
reported
to
the
police
and
six
consented
to
do
a
urine
test
of
the
of
the
six
one
was
reported
as
potentially
likely
to
have
been
spiked.
The
other
five
came
back
as
unlikely
to
have
been
spiked
or
unknown
traffic
management.
Q
I.
Think
in
general,
the
the
traffic
was
significantly
better.
I
think
the
new
Road
system
has
certainly
helped
that
and
I
think
the
in
general.
The
response
from
the
community
around
the
festival
felt
that
the
new
road
system
had
benefited
them,
as
well
as
the
traffic
Ingress
and
egress
to
the
festival.
Very
significantly.
Q
The
the
new
a64
closure
eastbound
for
the
duration
of
the
success
of
the
festival
was
successful
and
we
plan
to
replicate
that
for
23.,
the
elor
used
as
diversion
route
for
local
residents
worked
really
well
at
the
Pudo
area,
set
up
and
managed
by
then
people
positive
feedback
from
the
public.
On
that
there
were
three
traffic
collisions
between
Thursday
and
Friday
outside
the
fox
and
grapes.
Pub
decision
to
make
kiddle
lane
closure
a
hard
closure
which
we
think
will
help
reduce
that
Collision
opportunity.
Q
The
plan
for
23
is
very
much
to
replicate
at
what
we
did
and
discuss
additional
closures
on
Paradise
way.
Bramham
Junction,
full
AAA
sign
each
plan
to
be
reviewed
and
there
was
some
access,
some
access
issues
for
the
number
seven
bus
that
we
need
to
get
on
top
of,
but
we
do
think
we'll
get
that
rectified
for
the
year
and
the
traffic.
Some
subgroup
meetings
continuing
to
take
place
and
next
scheduled
meeting
is
the
beginning
of
March.
Q
This
year,
public
transport
taxes,
taxi
pickup
and
drop-off
area
located
within
Redgate,
as
in
previous
years,
managed
by
the
Pluto
managers
to
pick
up
and
drop-off
managers.
New
company
contracted
to
manage
Pluto,
we
think
worked
pretty
well.
Q
Three
bet:
three
pens
designated
for
private
hires
signage
for
each
bin
wasn't
clear
enough,
and
we
will
certainly
do
better
on
that
next
year
and
include-
and
we
you
equally
will
increase
the
number
of
VMS
within
the
village
and
campsite
areas
to
direct
to
taxi
pickup
and
the
bus
stop
earlier
engagement
with
taxis,
licensing
needed
to
ensure
ample
opportunity
for
taxi
back
to
to
be
widely
circulated.
Q
Q
We
had
a
a
re-look
at
the
Acoustics
and
had
a
new
acoustic
modeling
report
carried
out
for
the
orientation
of
main
Stage
West
to
reduce
any
impact
on
residents.
This
and
again,
the
weather
does
play
a
part
in
this,
but
this
did
result
in
a
a
reduction
of
knowledge,
complaints
in
21
of
40
to
1,
just
one
in
2022.
Q
Thank
you
generally,
on
Public
Safety.
The
security
plans
shared
with
all
the
sac
partners
and
just
discussing
detail
with
West
Yorkshire
police
covert
security
plan
will
be
enhanced
for
2023.
It
was
pretty
successful.
We
felt
in
22,
but
can
we
think
we're
working
very
closely
with
their
structure,
police
and
I
think
it
would
be
even
more
so
in
2023,
and
we
Salvage
and
cleanse
in
yeah,
pretty
I
mean
again
pretty
an
improvement.
Q
I
think
in
general,
Salvage
operation
took
place
on
Monday
post
show
coordinated
by
the
sustainability
team.
Q
Salvage
operation
specifically
was
an
overall
increase
of
69
percent
in
the
items
that
were
salvaged
and
that's
obviously
a
a
sort
of
increasing
the
sort
of
waste
diversion
really
because
that
stuff
that
was
potentially
going
to
to
not
be
recycled.
As
such,
the
we
increased
the
the
number
of
people
who
pre-registered
for
salvaging
in
a
very
significantly
up
to
700
people,
and
we
had
around
100
people
walk
up
on
the
day.
Q
Q
It's
a
challenge
to
be
as
tarry
as
we
hoped
they
would
be,
and
the
the
Eco
campsite
did
get
incredible
feedback
and
we'll
it
will
grow
there'll
be
a
point
at
which
it
gets
to
a
fairly
substantial
element
of
the
campsite
attendees
I
I
think
you
know,
based
on
other
events,
that
we're
we're
doing
General
Waste
Management
I
think
was
was,
you
know,
was
positive,
zero
waste
to
landfill
and
a
is
where
we
are
and
where
we
want
to
continue
to.
Q
Q
They
are
principally
a
an
irish-based
company,
Main
Medical
tent
located
an
irish-based
ownership,
uk-based
paramedics
and
Medics
and
nurses
Etc
with
all
the
relevant
UK
qualifications.
But
the
ownership
was
based
in
Ireland,
the
main
medical
tent
was
located
in
the
village
additional
medical
points
located
in
the
arena.
We
did
unfortunately
have
a
last
minute
changing
Key
Personnel,
namely
the
medical
coordinator,
which
resulted
in
a
new
management
team
running
things
on
the
ground
and
the
CQC
registration
and
purchase
of
the
on-site
x-ray
was
not
achieved.
Q
Instead,
local
Private
Hospital
was
contracted
to
provide
the
x-ray
off-site.
We've
moved
quickly
for
23
and
confirmed
Elite
TMS
rather
than
code
blue
for
2023,
who
are
a
Midlands
based
CQC
registered
for
Ambience
transfer.
Etc
they'll
also
be
able
to
provide
on-site
x-ray,
either
through
direct
ownership
or
indirect
ownership,
and
we're
very
confident
that,
and
we've
spoken
to
Yorkshire
Ambulance
Service
about
them,
they're
very
confident
about
that.
Q
Overall,
medical
in
general
was
relatively
similar,
I.
Suppose
alcohol
intoxication
is
always
the
largest
number,
but
it's
a
consistent
number
between
21
and
22.
drug
overdose.
Again
is
you
know,
usually
second,
and
that
was
quite
a
significant
reduction
between
21
and
22
bikes.
Q
Stings
Etc
are
a
a
reasonable
proportion
and
people
that
have
had
one
too
many
and
are
sleeping
it
off
tend
to
get
called
for
medical
assistance
as
well,
and
that
tends
to
be
a
reasonable
number
again
that
one
was
a
slight
increase
on
on
22
versus
21,
but
in
the
main
everything
went
down
as
opposed
to
went
up
in
terms
of
that
total
transfers
to
the
medical
facility
to
the
hospitals
was
in
2021.
Q
It
was
31
and
11
x-rays,
quite
a
significant
increase
in
transfers.
We
intend
to
reduce
that
obviously,
because
of
the
pressure
on
the
Health
Service
very
significantly
for
2023
numbers
of
patients
seen
actually
was
a
little
lower
in
2022
than
21
and
dropped
by
about
16
percent.
Q
A
Thank
you
for
that
Mr
Ben,
so
I'll
open
up
now
for
members
to
ask
questions.
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
we
are
live
on
webcast
and
in
paragraph
two
of
the
report
there
are
some
restricted
areas
for
discussion,
crime
and
disorder
and
security.
So
please
use
your
judgment
and
and
bear
that
in
mind
that
those
two
particular
topics
will
be
closed.
In
sorry,
we'll
be
discussed
in
closed
session.
As
I've
said,
medical
will
be
discussed
in
this
Open
Session,
but
nothing
pertaining
to
David
celino.
C
Yeah,
first
of
all,
thank
you
for
that.
Just
on
the
spiking
tests
did
I
hear
right
that
they
were
available
to
purchase
and
if
so,
how
many
were
purchased.
Q
I,
don't
think
I've
got
the
number
of
how
many
were
purchased,
not
very
many.
We
we
only
actually
I'm
just
I'm
gonna
go
back
to
the
number
I
think
we
bought
a
hundred.
What.
I
I
Apologies
yeah
and
we
bought
a
thousand
of
them,
but
like
Melvin
Said,
there
wasn't
many
sold
at
the
festival
we
had
them
available
from
our
welfare.
Tent
I
haven't
got
the
exact
number
to
hands,
but
it
wasn't
even
in
the
triple
figures
it
was
under
100
that
were
actually
sold.
I
I
think
it
was
quite
a
last
minute
we
were
able
to
get
them
from
check
your
drink
and
we'd
probably
do
more
to
let
people
know
and
communicate
that
we've
got
them
there
for
sale
for
next
year.
If
we
continue
to
do
that-
and
it's
agreed
that
we
should
have
that
facility
in
place,
but
we
bought
a
thousand
and
there
was
less
than
100
sold.
What.
Q
Counselor
that
that
was
also
replicated
across
quite
a
number
of
my
other
camping
festivals
here
and
here
and
abroad,
where
we
bought
the
tests
we
made
them
available,
but
the
take-up
was,
you
know,
was
really
quite
low.
C
Thank
you.
I
just
want
to
move
on
to
what
you
said
about
the
pick
up
and
drop-off
areas,
and
you
said
that
there
were
three
pens
designated
for
private
hire
now
I
remember
asking
about
a
specific
private
hire
company
and
whether
they
were
given
prior,
whether
they
were
to
be
given
priority
at
the
2022
festival
and-
and
you
made
the
point
well
what's
wrong
with
that
now
I've
heard
of
of
reports
that-
and
you
said
it
worked
quite
well
this
year.
C
However,
I
have
heard
reports
that
some
of
the
private
hire
drivers
were
parking
up
and
going
on
to
the
site
and
Outing
for
business
which,
as
you
know,
is
illegal.
Only
only
Hackney
Carriage
drivers
can
do
that,
so
they
were
going
on
to
the
site.
They
were
causing
congestion
by
leaving
their
cars
parked
out
in
outside
the
site,
going
onto
the
site
touting
for
business
and
then
charging
quite
exorbitant
rates
to
take
people
into
Leeds.
Q
That
that
I
have
to
say
that
isn't
something
that
has
been
reported
to
us.
It
isn't
something
that
our
traffic
management
teams
picked
up
on
on
site.
The
budo
team,
the
pickup
and
drop-off
managers
didn't
didn't
pick
up
on
that
on
site,
so
that
I
I'm
definitely
be
interested
in
hearing
a
bit
more
detail
on
that,
but
that
that
wasn't
something
that
we
noticed
or
were
aware
of
in
that
sense
of
it
and
I
think
it
would
be
very
I
mean
I,
just
I!
Q
Guess
there's
always
if
you
know,
wherever
you
arrive,
you
arrive
at
King's
cross
who
I
arrive
at
Garden,
or
you
arrive
at
airports,
Etc
and
there's
always
people
standing
outside
saying
you
know,
can
I
give
you
give
you
a
taxi,
Etc
I'm,
always
very
I,
noticed
them
very
easily
I.
Didn't
nobody
really
reported
that
at
all
here
at
Leeds,
Festival
counseling.
C
Yeah
so
we'll
pick
that
up
with
you
later,
but
you
do
understand
the
difference
between
Hackney
carriages
and
private
hire
100.
They
can
and
can't
do
I
mean
being
a
criminal
offense
to
town
100.
A
N
Right,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
report
just
make
to
make
a
few
very
brief
comments
and
then
just
a
couple
of
questions.
First
of
all,
it's
good
to
know
that
you're
intended
to
ban
the
fires
for
2023,
and
it's
not
just
about
the
fire
safety,
that's
also
about
health
and
air
quality
and
the
so
it's
that
as
well.
Yes,.
N
Absolutely
good,
thank
you.
I'm
also
glad
to
hear
you're
talking
about
Challenge
25
from
from
next
year
as
well.
You
know
to
increase
the
safeguarding
I'd,
be
interested
to
know.
What
proportion
of
those
attended
actually
used
the
Eco
campsite
and
it
was
obviously
successful
and
therefore,
if
you
like,
what
are
your
plans
overall
for
making
it
more
eco-friendly
and
I'll
link
back
now
to
about
the
public
transport
really
and
about
I
mean?
N
Has
there
ever
been
I'm
quite
new
to
this,
by
the
way,
the
idea
of
any
sort
of
Park
and
Ride,
or
possibly
even
giving
I'm
wondering
about
the
ones
who
were
camping
on
the
Eco
campsite,
whether
they
actually
came
by
public
transport,
rather
than
being
brought
on
whether
you've
thought
about
any
ticket
price
reduction
or
refund
for
those
who'd
actually
came
by
by
public
Transporters
or
increase
the
the
environmental
impact
of
that
I?
Think
that's
it
really.
Thank
you.
Q
The
Eco
campsite,
I'm,
going
to
say,
is
I
was
probably
well
certainly
less
than
two
percent.
It
was
quite
a
small
amount.
Q
It
gives
it
a
lot
of
room
to
grow
counselor,
but
it
and-
and
it
was
as
big
as
the
demand
effectively
for
this
year
for
2022
I
apologize
and
because
it
is
something
that
we
can
Flex
in
that
sense
of
it,
I
mean
to
a
certain
extent,
we
can
Flex
it
because
it
obviously
has
to
be
staffed
and
and
provisioned
in
that
sense,
so
it
can
grow,
it
will
grow.
Q
It
is
a
major
Focus,
we've
seen
quite
good
levels
of
growth
that
other
festivals,
but,
of
course
the
public
have
to
take
it
up.
We
can't
force
that
in
that
sense,
as
for
evidence
of
whether
those
in
the
Eco
campsite
drove
or
use
public
transport,
we
have
none
and
again
you
know
it's.
Q
You
know
a
such
a
large
proportion
used
public
transport
because
they're
not
of
an
age
to
have
cars,
or
they
are
a
lot
of
young
people,
as
you
know,
are
you
know,
have
less
cars
than
we
did
at
our
age
in
terms
of
proportion,
I
think
so
we
don't
have
that
and
no,
there
is
no.
There
is
no
price
reduction
for
Eco
versus
non-eco.
That
isn't
something
that
I
would
anticipate.
F
Thanks
Chad
I've
got
a
number
of
questions
about
the
Salvage
and
I'm
a
waste,
but
I'd
like
to
come
onto
those
later.
If
it's
okay,
because
we
were
talking
about
personal
safety,
really
I-
think
that's
probably
the
most
important
thing
for
us
to
consider
and
not
something.
F
I've
got
personal
experience
of,
but
from
hearing
some
from
some
of
the
people
who
went
and
about
how
they
felt
a
lot
of
them
felt
unsafe,
and
there
seems
to
be
a
a
bit
of
a
difference
between
what
we're
hearing
about
the
festival
from
young
people
and
what
we
hear
about
it
officially.
F
So
what
I'd
really
like
to
ask
is
how
you
intend
to
work
with
the
people
who
went
in
2022
and
perhaps
also
the
volunteers,
some
of
whom
I've
also
heard
from
about
the
festival
and
their
concerns
about
it,
to
figure
out
how
we
make
it
better
and
and
in
particular
I'm
I'm
thinking
about
you
talked
about
the
spiking
kits
earlier.
F
It
sounds
like
they
were
distributed
from
a
welfare
tent.
You
know
a
pound,
a
piece.
Maybe
there
could
be
a
more
proactive
way
of
getting
those
out
to
people
and
making
sure
that
people
are
okay,
but
also
working
with
young
people.
To
even
look
at
questions
like
how
do
we
increase
the
number
of
people
and
packing
up
their
tents
and
going
home
with
them?
F
Not
not
leaving
so
much
waste
and
all
other
aspects
of
the
festival
really
I
think
in
a
way
this
this
committee
can
look
from
the
outside,
but
it
would
be
good
to
have
a
commitment
to
actually
working
very
thoroughly
with
the
people
who
went
to
find
out
more
about
that
experience
and
what
they
think
could
be
done
to
improve
some
of
these
issues.
I've
got
some
more
specific
questions
about
Recycling
and
Salvage,
but
I'll
come
to
those
later
in
the
meeting.
If
that's
okay,
yeah.
A
So
what
would
you
like
to
ask
them
after
Mr
Ben's
answered
this
first
question,
yeah.
Q
I'm
I'm
staggered
that
you
think
we
don't
work
with
our
customers.
Quite
frankly,
I'm,
absolutely
staggered
that
you
think
we
sit
there
in
some
sort
of
high
chair
looking
over
them
rather
than
engaging.
That
makes
quite
the
opposite
and,
of
course,
people
will
come
back
with
varying
levels
of
whether
they
felt
safe
or
unsafe
or
whatever,
and
that's
people's
personal
experiences,
and
they
will
differ
my
social
media
teams.
My
my
internet
teams
Etc
talk
and
monitor
people
and
chat
with
people
all
of
the
time.
Q
Social
media
is
an
incredible
way
of
engaging.
It
is
a
it
puts
you
in
the
spotlight
all
of
the
time
and
it's
an
incredible
way
of
engaging.
In
addition,
we
talk
to
local
schools.
We
talk
to.
We
talk
to
groups
of
people
about
that.
We
obviously
talk
up
to
the
the
festival,
Angels
teams
about
their
perception
of
you
know:
safety
on
site.
Q
We
talked
to
the
security
teams,
about
their
perception
of
safety
on
site
and
I
would
refute
any
suggestion
that
Leeds
Festival
is
anything
other
than
a
safe,
Festival
counselor.
F
Sure,
thanks
well
I
appreciate
it,
but
your
firm
view,
that
is
to
say,
festival
and
that's
good
good,
to
hear
I
didn't
say
that
you
are
sitting
in
an
eye
chair,
but
all
I
was
really
looking
for
specifically
is
just
how
you
and
and
you
started-
and
you
started
to
answer
that-
how
you
work
with
people
who
attended
the
festivals,
so
yeah
really.
F
Just
an
explanation
of
how
it
is
you
go
about
working
for
people
who
attended
the
festivals?
How
does
that
work?
Is
your
planning
around
things
like
recycling
rates,
things
like
how
to
distribute
spiking
kits
all
of
those
issues
is
that
worked
out
with
the
people
who
attended?
How
do
you
do
that
great?
If
it
is
I'd
just
like
to
hear
about
how
that
works,
it.
Q
It
isn't
worked
out
with
the
people
that
attend,
of
course,
in
the
same
way
that
the
layout
of
a
supermarket
isn't
worked
out
with
the
people
that
shop
there.
No,
it
isn't
worked
out,
it's
provided
by
us
in
the
way
that
we
think
best.
Yes,
that
is
the
way
it's
the
only
way.
We
can
do
it
quite
in
my
view,
it's
the
only
way
we
can
do
it.
Q
The
idea
that
the
festival,
layout
and
and
distribution
would
be
designed
by
the
kids
by
the
festival,
girls
or
by
Shoppers
in
general.
That
is
not
the
way
that
things
work
in
that
sense,
but
we
do
have,
as
I
said
book
advisory
out
there
talking
to
people
all
of
the
time,
feeding
back
in
real
time.
Whether
there
are
concerns
Festival
angels.
Are
there
Salvation
Army?
Are
there
Samaritans?
Are
there
Narcotics
Anonymous?
Are
there
safe
gigs
for
women?
Are
there
sexual
assault,
referrals
Center
there
and
forward
leads
there?
Q
We
and
numerous
numerous
welfare
points.
In
addition,
we
have
our
campsite
assistant
teams,
the
cats
teams
working
on
the
campsite.
They
are
peer
group
people.
They
are
the
same
generally,
the
same
or
very
close
proximity
of
age
to
the
festival,
girls
themselves.
They
are
listening
themselves
talking
to
people
all
the
time,
feeding
back
into
event
control
all
of
the
time.
Yes
and
and
yes,
we
do.
Q
We
talk
relatively
openly
and
extensively,
albeit
at
relative
short
notice,
about
the
about
the
the
the
drink
checking
kits,
but
we
certainly
gave
people
a
week's
notice,
10
days
notice
in
general,
every
single
one
of
our
customers
engages
with
our
social
media
in
that
seven
to
ten
days
leading
up
to
the
festival,
and
so,
although
it
was
short
notice,
it
was
unlikely
not
not
to
have
been
noticed
by
people
that
were
attending
the
festival,
so
I'm
always
open
to
more
engagement,
no
I'm
not
open
to
the
kids
running
the
festival
themselves.
A
E
I
was
going
to
pick
up
on
the
spiking
test,
kids
issue,
which
which
councilor
Wilson
raised
it's
good
to
hear
they're
at
such
a
low
price
point
just
a
pound,
but
as
the
take-up
was
so
low
for
next
year,
would
you
consider
giving
them
away
for
free?
You
wouldn't
do
at
all.
Well,
okay,.
Q
I
think
it's
unnecessary,
I
think
very
few
people
are
concerned
about
it.
I
I
think
if
the
amount
of
people
and
again
I
it's
very,
very
limited
but
struggle
among
my
staff,
who
are
of
a
younger
age,
wouldn't
consider
purchasing
one
generally.
How
often
does
one
use
one?
Do
you
use
one
before
you
have
every
single
drink?
It's
unlimited
how
many
May
possibly
get
used
in
that
sense
of
it
really
so
I
think
a
pound
price
point
is
very
reasonable.
Q
D
Thanks
Jay,
my
question
is
regarding
the
NHS.
You
said
that
you're
going
to
help
to
reduce
the
pressure
on
the
NHS
going
forward.
Can
you
give
us
a
bit
more
information
how
you
plan
to
do
that.
Q
To
have
on-site
x-ray
facilities
principally
to
reduce
the
amount
of
transfers
into
the
local
hospitals.
D
I'm,
just
coming
back,
I
mean,
apart
from
just
the
x-rays.
What
else
I
are
you
going
to
increase
the
first
aid
Etc?
That's
why
I'm
asking
you
know
with
regards
to
it's?
Not
they
don't
just
go
down
to
the
NHS
for
x-rays.
Q
Councilor
we
we,
we
had.
Q
I'm,
just
looking
at
the
figures
so
that
I
have
the
figures,
foreign.
Q
Q
1445
people
came
into
the
medical
facilities
in
2021,
we
had
1729,
most
of
them
come
in
with
headaches
and
cuts
that
need
plasters
on
Etc
and
we
we
transferred
16
people
in
21
and
we
transferred
31
in
2022,
and
it's
that
transfer
into
really.
That
is
where
the
contact
with
the
NHS
comes
is
via
the
transfers
from
side
to
an
NHS
facility.
Q
Everything
else
is
then
dealt
with
on
site
and,
yes,
I
want
to
reduce
the
numbers
that
transfer
into
any
medical
facility
that
we're
not
not
doing,
and
we
will
gear
up
for
that.
Accordingly,
we
work
with
the
Yorkshire
Ambulance
Service
in
particular,
but
obviously
with
Leeds
city
council,
to
address
the
medical
provision
and
they
feel
we
need
more.
I
will
definitely
provide
more.
A
Okay,
well,
I
have
a
couple
of
questions:
Mr
Ben,
if
that's
okay,
as
the
chair
and
just
bearing
in
mind
that
we
have
had
a
a
debrief
from
partner
agencies
as
well,
do
you
do
you
think
there
was
enough
Security
on
site
this
year.
Q
I
think
overall
security,
the
security
provision
not
just
at
Leeds
Festival
but
across
the
UK
and
all
sorts
of
events,
dropped
pre-covered
to
post
covid
I.
Think
covid
had
a
bigger
impact
on
the
security
industry
than
certainly
anything
else,
High
touch
or
deal
with
chair,
and
that
is
something
that
I
want
to
address
in
the
closed
session
with
you,
there
was
enough.
There
is
no
question
that
there
was
enough.
Q
Was
it
yeah?
There's
no
question:
there
was
enough
I.
A
A
I
think
given,
given
the
context
of
you,
know,
we've
seen
recruitment
issues
across
every
industry.
I
think
that's
that's
understandable,
but
obviously
you
know
welcome
that.
You
acknowledge
that
that
moves
me
on
to
medical
provision
would
you
obviously
this
was
a
new
provider
that
you'd
used.
Would
you
say
that
they
had
had
enough
experience
of
working
in
Festival
environments
and
were
prepared
in
terms
of
the
challenges
that
working
in
the
very
unique
environment
would
offer?
A
Q
I
did
I
did
actually
chair
and
I,
wouldn't
have
put
them
in
place
if
I
didn't
I,
wouldn't
have
put
them
in
place
if
I
hadn't
have
used
them
before
as
well.
Q
They
are
my
medical
provider
at
my
principal
festival
or
my
largest
Festival
in
the
Republic
of
Ireland,
which
is
a
similar
size
to
Leeds
Festival,
and
they
do
it
perfectly
well.
They
do
all
of
my
shows
in
the
Republic
of
Ireland.
They
do
perfectly
well
and
I
yeah
I
I,
don't
I
mean,
although
we
are
changing
them,
I'm,
not
changing
them,
because
they're
their
service
was
inadequate,
I'm
changing
them,
because
I
think
I
can
make
it
better.
A
We'll
certainly
welcome
you
doing
anything
you
can
to
improve
services
and,
if
you're
engaging
with
somebody,
you
think
it's
better
and
that's
all
all
to
the
good.
Why
do
you
think
the
new
provider
is
better?
What
will
the
offer
that
perhaps
this
the
previous
provider
didn't.
Q
I
think
principally
a
CQC
registration
here
in
the
UK
chair
and
they're,
a
very
large
medical
provider
to
the
National
Health
Service
and
they
are
Keen
to
protect
their
CQC
status.
A
Oh
okay,
sorry
yeah
again
my
events
mixed
up,
that's
fine!
That
leads
me
on
to
the
provision
that
they
had
with
them.
So
you
know
we
did
hear
that
there
was.
A
You
know
that
there
was
a
lot
there
in
terms
of
what
they
were
able
to
offer
on
site
for
medical
assistance,
but
I
wondered
if
they
were,
if
there's
if
they
had
any
attention
to
dealing
specifically
with
serotonin
syndrome
and
making
sure
that
people
had
the
appropriate
ice
wraps,
and
things
like
that
and
I
didn't
realize
that
there
is
very
specific
ways
that
the
medic
that
a
e,
for
example,
would
deal
with
that
specific
and
specific
issue.
Were
they
geared
up
to
be
able
to
deal
with
that?
A
Q
A
A
Q
Under
18's,
wristband
principally
had
the
and
the
sorry
the
over
18s
respond
and
those
that
didn't
take
it
up
and
they
check
at
The
Wristband
exchange.
When
we,
when
people
arrive.
A
So,
okay,
so
there's
obviously
been
a
discussion
in
the
past,
hasn't
been
around
16
17
year
olds,
having
specific,
wristbands
and
and
potentially
leaving
them
vulnerable.
As
a
result
of
that
so
I've
seen
I.
Think
we've
understood
the
arguments
as
to
why
you
you've
not
pursued
that
course,
but
there
is
I
mean
so
from
what
you've
just
said
there.
There
is
a
specific
over
18's
wristband.
Q
There
there
is
sure
if
you
are,
you
know
18
19,
look
like
you
will
be
challenged
every
time
you
go
to
a
bar
or
anything
like
that.
There
is
a
specific
over
18s.
Q
You
may
even
be
22
23
and
still
be
of
have
a
face
that
constantly
gets
challenged
and
there
is
a
specific
wristband
for
those
people
to
go
to
register.
They
bring.
You
know,
passport,
ID,
Etc,
proper
ID.
They
get
an
additional
wristband
so
that
when
they
are
being
challenged
at
the
challenge,
21
Now
The,
Challenge
25.
They
can
show
their
wristband
to
demonstrate
that
they
have
gone
through
the
process
of
establishing
their
age.
A
Okay,
that's
understandable,
but
I
presume
that
anybody
that
doesn't
look
sort
of
you
know
younger
than
their
age
they're
not
going
to
take
up
that
wristband.
So
there's
but
you've.
You've
said
that's
how
you've
qualified
that
20
of
the
festival
were
under
18,
but
I
presume
that
80
of
the
festival
didn't
have
the
over
18
wristband.
So
I'm
going
to
ask
you
again:
how
do
you?
How
did
you
qualify
that
it's
only
20
of
people.
I
I
that
so
we
do
ID
checks
at
the
gate
and
I
think
it
was
widely
recognized
and
understood
that
although
we
are
giving
out
those
wristbands,
those
people
weren't
going
to
put
the
wristbands
on,
they
were
discarding
them,
and
so
we
took
account
of
those
and
it's
that
figure
then
combined
taking
away
the
over
18s
wristband.
A
I
mean
I
know
you
can't
be
entirely
accurate.
With
these
things,
I
mean
you
know,
there's
I
recognize
that
there's
no
provision.
Oh
sorry,
I
understand
that
there's
no
provision
on
on
purchasing
tickets
to
indicate
whether
you
are
or
not
over
18,
and
it's
the
same.
If
you're
book
buying
tickets
as
well
you're,
not
asked
whether
or
not
you
have
under
18s
with
you.
But
my
my
point.
The
reason
why
I've
asked
the
question
is
obviously
under
18
year
olds
are
particularly
vulnerable.
A
So,
given
that
there
is,
it
is
a
festival
that
has
a
reputation
for
having
a
significant
number
of
under
18
year
olds.
Is
it
not
really
important
that
we
understand
just
how
many
under
18
year
olds
go
in
there
and
that
way
would
be
able
to
or
you'd
be
able
to
sorry
be
able
to
create
provision
that
meets
the
needs
of
what
is
essentially
a
younger
demographic.
A
I've
certainly
welcome
that
Mr
Ben,
but
then
obviously
we'd
have
to
look
at
how
if,
if
there
is
a,
if
there
is
a
larger
proportion
of
people
under
the
age
of
18,
perhaps
more
than
you
estimated,
so
it's
a
festival
of
80,
000
and
you're
suggesting
20
times.
So,
what's
what's
that
16
000?
If
it's
much
more
than
that,
do
you
think
that
potentially
would
have
to
address
how
you
get
organized
the
festival
if
it
is
something
closer
to
perhaps
say
50
of
people
that
are
under
18.
H
Q
I,
don't
believe
it
is
closer
to
50,
but
we'll
come
back
with
what
we
think
is
a
more
a
more
verifiable
number
and
we'll
address
it
from
there.
My
view
is
that
we
would
address
it
around
safeguarding
issues.
Etc
again,
I,
don't
think,
there's
an
automatic
assumption
that
a
person
under
18
is
more
vulnerable.
Q
A
F
Thanks
Jay,
just
so
on
the
environmental
and
and
waste
side
of
the
festival,
I'm
interested
in
how
you
can
spread
the
leave,
no
Trace
concept
further
beyond
the
camp,
I
think
I
might
be
wrong.
I
think
I
heard
the
camp,
the
Eco
campsite
was
around
700
people
or
so,
which
it
is
I
think
definitely
less
than
two
percent.
So
it's
it's
a
start,
but
even
if
you
kind
of
made
that
10
times
bigger,
it's
still
quite
a
small
percentage
of
the
people
going.
F
So
how
can
you
spread
for
kind
of
things
that
you
did
there
just
to
the
ordinary
attendees
and
then
just
on
the
some
of
the
numbers
you
mentioned,
46
of
waste
collected
was
recycled,
but
do
you
know
what
percentage
of
waste
was
left
on
the
ground
and
I?
Think
I
think
also
that
recycling
figure
probably
excludes
larger
items
like
tents
sleeping
bags
duvets?
F
F
Do
you
know
what
number
that's
what
the
Baseline
number
for
that
is
I
think
it
must
be
quite
low.
I
was
part
of
the
salvaging
volunteer
group
and
there
was
a
sea
of
of
tents
and
and
many
items
that
looked
like
they
could
reasonably
be
taken
and
reused,
but
we
just
were
not
able
to
you
know,
get
to
them
and
take
them
away
and
I
think
the
kind
of
factors
behind
that
were
the
amount
of
time
we
had
to
salvage
the
amount
of
space
in
the
transport.
F
Taking
those
items
away
and
I
guess
the
fundamental
part
of
that
is.
We
were
volunteers
coming
in
cars,
sometimes
quite
small
cars
occasionally
attend.
You
know
we
were
lended
a
tent
by
seagulls,
for
example,
which
was
great,
but
the
capacity
really
is
incredibly
limited
to
take
stuff
away
combined
with
the
time
and
the
number
of
volunteers,
it's
a
drop
in
the
ocean.
F
The
Salvage
felt
really
good
because
we
could
redistribute
some
of
those
items
to
people
who
needed
them,
but
it
it
most
of
us
felt
sort
of
pretty
pretty
appalled
by
how
much
there
was
and
and
what
little
difference
we
could
make
really
in
terms
of
salvaging
so
I'm,
particularly
interested
in
how
we
decrease
the
number
of
wastes
left
behind
I.
Think
that's
the
most
important
thing
and
I
think
the
Salvage
I'm
also
interested
in.
F
Do
you
have
specific
plans
to
improve
the
capacity
of
Salvage
proactively
working
with
people,
but
also,
and
in
particular,
how
you
increase
the
rate
of
people
taking
the
larger
items
away.
Q
Apologize
chair
in
terms
of
communicating
the
message
we
we
worked
with
an
organization
called
no
music
on
the
on
a
dead
planet,
you'd
see
that
it
was
spread
across
the
Leeds
Festival
logo.
It
pervaded
every
message
that
we
put
out.
Q
It
was
key
to
every
message
that
we
put
out,
and
it
is
it's
very
much
at
the
heart
of
everything
that
I
tried
to
do
councilor,
so
I'm
I'm,
as
committed
as
getting
the
message
out
and
trying
to
persuade
people
as
I
can
be
and
again
I
will
stop
at
nothing.
In
order
to
try
and
improve
that
commitment,
we
had
organizations
on
the
ground
that
were
communicating
the
environmental
message
at
the
festival
as
well.
Q
As
you
know,
the
non-stop
social
media
attention
that
we
provided
for
it,
the
Eco
campsite
I
I
did
say,
was
less
than
two
percent
I
didn't
say
it
was
two
percent,
it
was
less
than
two
percent
and
you
have
the
numbers,
and
you
confirmed
at
the
calculation
with
a
little
more
time
than
I
did
had
to
respond.
Q
It
was
less
than
two
percent
if
it
was
ten
times
that-
and
it
was
20
quite
frankly,
I'd
be
very
pleased,
because
that
would
be
an
enormous
number
and
it
would
be
a
huge
step
forward.
It'll
be
a
while
before
it
is
20
because
in
general,
people
are
not
embracing.
Leave
no
Trace
to
the
level
that
you
and
I
would
like
them
to
that.
Q
Isn't
about
my
customers
that
isn't
about
the
festival
it's
about
Society
in
general,
unfortunately,
and
but
nonetheless,
I
will
continue
to
work
tirelessly
to
try
and
improve
it.
I
hope
that
I
will
double
the
size
of
the
Eco
Campsite
in
2023,
but
I
can't
force
people
into
it.
It
has
to
be
voluntary
in
terms
of
the
Salvage
again.
Q
Q
So
it
isn't
that
I
have
a
desire
for
you
and
others
not
to
take
things
away,
but
I,
and
so
there
isn't
a
limit
on
that
counselor.
There
really
isn't
a
limit
limit
on
it.
F
Thanks
and
please
there's
not
a
limit
and
I
I
I
I,
guess
from
from
what
you're
saying,
I'm,
clearly
you're
putting
an
awful
lot
of
work
into
the
comms
around
it
and
I
know
you
do
things
like
getting
celebrities
on
board
and
things
like
that?
That's
all
brilliant,
but
I!
Suppose
there
is
a
limp.
There
is
a
limit
to
comms
and
yeah.
Have
you
explored
more
practical
on
the
ground
things
that
can
be
done?
F
Beyond
comms,
so
around
I'm,
not
gonna,
I'm,
not
gonna,
give
examples
because
I'm,
not
a
professional,
Festival
organizer
but
I,
don't
think
it's
just
about
increasing
the
size
of
the
Eco
campsite.
Then
there
might
be
things
that
you
can
do,
whether
it's
about
making
bins
more
accessible
or
whether
it's
about
having
stewards
who
are
helping
people
pack
down
tents,
or
you
know
whether
it's
about
a
kind
of
people
being
able
to
as
counselor
Force
I've.
F
You
know
mentioned
getting
discounts
for
arriving
on
public
transport
or
similar
things
like
that
for
bringing
stuff
back
in
that's
almost
kind
of
waste
reduction
side
of
it,
but
and
then
on
the
kind
of
Salvage
side
of
it
again.
F
Is
there
anything
more?
You
can
do
to
support
that
so,
whether
that's
in
terms
of
the
comms
to
people
who
might
be
able
to
come
and
help
out
if
they
knew
about
it,
providing
more
time
for
people
to
be
on
site,
even
supporting
people
with
with
transport
to
to
get
the
items
out
of
there
it
just
it
seems
like
it
could
be
a
really
big
opportunity
to
improve
the
environmental,
environmental
impacts
of
a
festival
if
there's
more
dedicated
support.
So
beyond
comms.
F
Are
there
other
practical
auction
options
you
thought
about
and
explored,
and
what
are
they.
Q
Well,
in
terms
of
persuading
people
comes
as
effectively
our
only
tool
because
they
can't
force
so
comms
is
our
principal
tool
in
terms
of
persuasion
and,
and
it
should
always
remain,
that,
the
on
the
ground,
we
have
a
large
number
of
people
employed
as
green
Messengers
and
they
live
and
work
around
the
bins,
the
bin
areas
in
the
campsites
and
in
the
arena.
Q
In
order
to
try
and
discuss
and
and
debate
with
people
about
the
need
to
to
be
environmentally
better,
we
put
very
hard
to
try
and
ask
people
to
take
their
their
rubbish
away,
and
it
falls
on
deaf
ears
to
a
much
greater
extent
than
I
would
prefer.
Q
That
said,
I
would
be
delighted
for
you
to
sit
down
with
with
my
sustainability
team
and
with
Lucy
and
Jeannie,
and
actually
just
review
every
single
thing
that
we
do,
because
if
you
can
make
it
better,
I
will
thank
you
and
and
I'm
sure
you
can
make
it
better.
I'm,
not
suggesting
you
can't
I
genuinely
will
thank
you
because
the
the
more
eyes,
the
more
energy,
the
more
brain
that
is
put
into
this
the
better.
Q
The
result
now
I'm
not
obliging
you
to
obviously
I
can't
oblige
you
to
but
I
am
I,
am
literally
transparent
in
trying
to
make
this
better,
and
if
you
can
add
more
trust
me
I
will
I
will
embrace
it.
Foreign.
A
F
To
say,
my
suggestion
would
also
be
doing
that
with
some
of
the
people
who
attended,
but
I
don't
want
to
be
accused
of
letting
the
kids
run.
The
festival,
but
I
have
met
with
some
of
your
team
before
and
had
a
short
conversation
and
I'll
be
I'll,
be
happy
to
again
yeah.
N
Thank
you,
I
was
just
picking
up
on
something
from
earlier.
We
were
talking
about
The
Wristband
issues
among
Russians,
thinking
that
the
festival
goers
put
on
their
own
wristbands
hoard.
You
you
put
them
on
for
them.
It's
just
something.
It
was
the
way
you
said
that
a
festival
that
I've
attended
I
have
been
to
ones
where
they
give
you
a
wristband
and
then
nowadays
they
don't.
They
fix
it.
On
the.
Q
The
the
wristband
authorizing
you
to
attend
the
festival
to
be
allowed
into
the
festival
we
put
on
a
wristband
being
given
to
someone
that
has
identified
as
being
under
18
is
a
voluntary
additional
wristband
that
they
choose
or
choose
not
to
put
on
that's
where
we
got
the
20
number,
the
amount
that
we
handed
out.
Q
We
probably
collected
off
the
floor,
19
of
that
20
percent,
because
they
they
were
voluntary,
counselor
because
they're,
not
they
don't
give
you
access.
They
just
identify.
N
So
perhaps
a
question
that
needs
to
be
asked
is
from
a
safeguarding
point
of
view,
especially
for
the
you
know:
the
other
welfare
services
and
things
if
I
think
I
wonder
whether
going
forward
that
question
needs
to
be
to
be
asked
whether
whether
those
wristbands
should
be
could
be
put
on.
A
I,
don't
know
the
answer
to
us
Mr
Ben
now,
and
it
must
have
been
to
comment
but
obviously
later
on.
In
the
as
we
introduce
the
other
partner
agencies,
you
can
ask
that
question
again:
Council
apostle.
M
Thanks
chair
just
picking
up
on
the
point
the
councilor
Wilson
raised
and
your
kind
offer
to
meet
with
people
I
wonder
chair
whether
it
would
be
possible
to
have
a
formal
sort
of
like
subgroup
meet
on
that
particular
issue
formally
through
the
licensing
committee.
So
we
can
actually
meet
with
Festival
Republic
to
discuss
the
environmental
impact
of
it.
I
think
that
would
be
useful,
certainly.
A
G
Thank
you
share.
I
just
wanted
to
ask
a
more
specific
question
about
spiking.
What
is
the
evil
that
you're
trying
to
prevent?
What
does
the
test
measure
and
is
it
effective
in
in
dealing
with
the
problem.
Q
The
the
only
test-
that's
absolutely
100
effective-
is
the
urine
test
counselor.
That,
unfortunately,
is
not
an
on-site
test,
which
is
you
know
unfortunate.
As
I
say,
it
would
be
much
better
if
it
was
an
immediate
test
and
the
immediate
test,
which
is
the
test
kits
that
we
give
out
and
use
ourselves
within
the
welfare
system.
Q
I
think
they
have
a
97
accuracy,
but
not
100
accuracy
and
the
the
the
I
I
guess
the
evil
is
two
things
really,
and
certainly
one
would
be
an
expectation
that
if
someone
had
been
spayed
that
they
would
be
less
capable
of
looking
after
themselves
and
I
put
that
in
a
fairly
General
sense,
but
less
capable
of
looking
after
themselves,
male
or
female
and
spanking
does
happen
to
male
males
as
well
as
females,
and
so
that
would
be
the
the
the
first
thing
and,
and
the
second
thing
would
be
to
try
and
have
a
a
better
understanding
and
handle
on
whether
there
was
a
a
proactive
person
or
a
proactive
group
of
people
that
were
intent
on
spiking
in
order
to
take
advantage
of
people
that
were
their
subjects
effectively.
Q
It
it
it,
it's
I,
believe
it's
testing
for
a
substance
that
I
think
is
commonly
referred
to
as
gbh
or
something
it's
a
particular
drug.
That
I
guess
makes
you
less
conscious
and
less
able
to
make
a
decision,
but
it's
also
testing
to
see
whether
there
are
anything
other
than
essentially
anything
other
than
alcohol
in
the
system.
A
Questions
members
now
just
a
couple
more
from
me,
then
Mr
Ben,
if
that's
okay,
so
this
this
question's
with
regard
to
the
stewards
that
that
support
your
Festival,
obviously
they're,
not
official
security,
the
volunteer
stewards.
Of
course
they
don't
provide
any
security,
but
they
do
provide
sort
of
reassurance
and
support
for
people
if,
for
example,
if
they
were
overly
drunk
or
whatever
it
might
be,
so
they
do
have
an
important
role
to
play
in
sort
of
General
sphere
of
safety
for
the
for
the
festival.
What
training
do
they
receive?.
Q
The
students
all
receive
a
basic
training:
they
don't
carry
an
Sia
badge
that
has
a
a
security
industry
standard
in
that
sense
of
it
and
most
organizations
all
organ
I,
don't
know
any
organizations
that
do
anything
other
than
employ
a
mix
of
stewards
and
students
and
Sia
security,
and
they
receive
a
an
instruction
pack.
They
receive
something
that
they
signed
to
say
that
they
understand
their
roles
and
duties
and
they
get
a
basic
training.
Q
They
usually
come
from
security
and
stewarding
companies
that
have
provided
them
with
a
in-house
basic
training,
but
not
on
an
external
adjudicated.
Training
like
the
Sia
provide
and
a
apologies.
There
are
additional
people
that
actually
have
in
the
sense
of
it
no
training
at
all
the
Samaritans.
Q
They
don't
operate
as
stewards,
but
they
do
provide
a
service.
Nonetheless,
you
know
would
be
an
example
of
it,
for
you
know,
for
instance,.
A
Thank
you
and
look.
We
do
understand
that
these
are
the
volunteers,
obviously
get
paid
with
a
with
a
ticket.
Essentially-
and
you
know
it's
not
their
primary
profession
to
like
security
staff
but
obviously
have
to
register
there
for
the
Sia
card.
So,
of
course
their
knowledge
and
experience
is
going
to
be
limited.
We
factor
that
in
but
the
you
know
and
anecdotally.
A
Some
people
have
it's
been
suggestions
that
some
of
the
stewards
weren't
as
supportive
as
as
they
should
have
been
now
I,
don't
know
whether
that's
of
course,
I,
don't
know
whether
that's
true
or
not,
but
I
wondered
and,
of
course,
as
you've
said,
you
do
offer
some
training,
but
I
wondered
whether
or
not
you
would
consider
Perhaps
Perhaps
some
mystery
shoppers
being
able
to
test
out
whether
or
not
those
stewards
are
actually
absorbing
that
training
and
therefore
be
able
to
perform
a
function.
That's
actually
got
some
utility.
Q
Jack
could
I
just
clarify.
We
employ
quite
a
large
number
of
stewards
that
are
not
Volunteers.
In
fact,
we
employ
almost
no
volunteer
stewards,
almost
no
volunteer
stewards
and,
to
my
knowledge,
we
employ
no
volunteer
stewards.
Q
Actually,
within
the
festival
environment
we
employ
volunteer
stewards,
let's
say,
for
instance,
at
the
North
End
of
the
site
outside
the
site
where,
for
example,
Bremen
Cricket
Club
provide
volunteer
traffic
stewards
at
the
North
End
of
the
of
the
site
so
that
people
don't
come
down
the
wrong
entrance
into
Brahman
Park
that
isn't.
That's
could
be
classed
as
a
stewarding
duty.
Q
It
is
a
volunteer
function,
but
it's
external
to
the
site
and
it
it
really
carries
no
Public
Safety
role
in
that
sense
of
it.
All.
The
stewards
that
carry
a
public
safety
role
are
paid
stewards
and
come
through
organized
companies
and
paid
companies
and
have
some
in-house
training
from
those
paid
companies.
There
are
a
number
of
other
people,
but
they
don't
work
in
Steward
roles
and
those
people
like
the
Samaritans.
Q
The
festival,
Angels
Etc
they're
not
employed
as
stewards
they're
employed
as
additional
support
staff,
so
it
would
I
I
just
wanted
to
correct
the
that
assumption
that
that
that
that
suggestion
that
volunteer
stewards
were
doing
the
work
of
the
the
the
sort
of
Public
Safety
work
in
some
respects
in
that,
because
that
that
that
wouldn't
be
quite
right
in
terms
of
mystery
shoppers,
the
Morgan
area
I
mean
genuinely
the
mother.
I
employ
them.
Q
I
have
mystery
shoppers
myself.
They
tend
to
be
at
mystery,
shopping
on
numbers
and
locations
rather
than
I
mean
they
do
do
some
checking
of
do
you
know
what
your
role
is
here
you
know.
Do
you
understand
what
your
function
is?
You
know
it
when
you
are
working
in
this
particular
position,
they
do
do
that.
They
don't
do
it
from
a
point
of
view
of
being
a
festival.
Goer,
that's
a
slightly
different.
That
would
be
a
slightly
different
Mystery
Shop
I'd
be
very
open
to
it.
A
A
Thank
you
for
that.
Council
Hamilton,
you've,
sort
of
the
wind
out
my
sales.
There
can't
say
I
was
going
to
say
something
else.
My
mind's
gone
okay,
so
I
think
we'll
it
do.
If
members
don't
have
any
other
questions,
no
any
other.
Obviously
other
questions
can
be
asked
in
the
closed
session.
A
In
that
case,
then,
we
will
start
with
responsible
agencies.
I
think
we
should
take
a
quick
break
before
we
do
that.
So
let's
have
a
quick,
quick,
five
minutes
and
then
return
for
that
section.
Thank
you,
Mr
Ben
and
Festival
Republic
team.
For
that.
A
Okay,
welcome
everybody,
Welcome
Back,
everybody
we're
back
up
and
running
okay.
Everyone
sat
okay,
sat
comfortably
I'm
going
to
start,
please
I
know,
there's
a
particular
order
and
our
agenda
packs,
but
I'm
going
to
change
it
around
a
little
bit.
I'm
going
to
look
at
traffic
management
first
I'm
going
to
invite
Mr,
utting
and
Andrew
up.
A
A
And
this
members
is
sort
of
update
if
you
like,
from
a
taxi
and
private
hire
licensing
and
the
trade
with
a
trade
rep
Mr
otting.
S
S
Mr
Ben
has
already
spoken
with
regards
to
lighting
and
signage.
That
was
one
of
the
points
I
was
going
to
mention.
It
would
be
a
lot
better
if
we
had
better
lighting
and
more
signs.
To
be
honest,
directing
customers
took
the
taxi
ranks,
etc,
etc,
and
also
better
lighting.
So
people
could
see
where
they
actually
want
to
be,
and
one
of
the
issues
that
that's
taking
place
that
was
was
mentioned
by
the
councilor
Catherine
Miller's
name.
S
We
think
ours
till
certain
private
higher
touting
for
business.
That
happens,
you'll,
never
stop
it.
It
happens,
Wherever,
You,
Are,
the
problem
being
is
when
people
tout
for
private
hire.
S
The
issue
is
that,
because
the
private
hire
at
the
front's
middle
and
where
at
the
rear,
the
problem
being
is
that
they
tend
to
walk
towards
the
customers
when
they're
leaving
the
festival
and
which
is
a
dangerous
practice
which
has
been
said
that
people
don't
realize
and
don't
know
which
vehicles
are
getting
into,
because
private
hire
have
to
take
a
bookie.
S
They
have
to
accept
your
booking
through
the
system
through
all
the
signals
webs
through
the
website
of
that
particular
company
and
there's
a
there,
is
a
risk
of
people
who
get
into
private
Highway
vehicles
that
don't
know
which
company
is
they
don't
know
who
it
is?
They
don't
check
any
numbers
whatsoever.
S
They
don't
have
the
system
on
and
the
problem
being
is
our
belief
is
that
private
hire
because
they
can
tell
and
because
there's
a
possibility
of
a
poor,
Wi-Fi
signal
or
poor
signal
for
that
particular
company,
whatever
the
area
is,
which
is
not
Mr
Lynn's
fault,
but
it's
just
an
aerial
site
problem
that
we
believe
that
probably
possibly
that
they'd
be
better.
If
Black
and
Whites
were
at
the
front,
because
we
don't
need
to
book
a
job,
we
can
actually
pick
up
off
the
street.
S
Also,
the
signage
needs
to
be
improved,
and
we
said
we
feel
as
though
in
the
past
it
will
be
a
lot
better.
If
it's
possibility
to
have
illuminated
signs,
I
mean
round
leads
when
you
have
the
inner
Ring
Road
closed,
you
put
illuminated
signs,
and
now,
if
there
was
some
sort
of
a
signage
Arrangement
at
the
festival
to
be
able
to
direct
people
where
the
taxes
were
cited,
that
would
be
better
for
everybody
and,
as
I've
said,
a
better
lighting
facility.
S
Those
are
the
things
that
we
feel
would
possibly
improve
the
transport
system
for
the
customers
and
also
for
the
people
providing
vehicle,
private,
hierarch
accessories
and
Black
and
Whites
to
get
people
home.
Those
are
the
comments
that
we
prefer
to
try
to
improve
a
system
which
is
working.
We
try
to
improve
the
system.
That's
it
basically,.
A
T
The
council
received
about
half
a
dozen
complaints
following
the
festival,
primarily
about
overcharging
or
double
charging,
or
putting
more
than
more
than
one
group
of
pastors
into
the
same
vehicle
and
then
charging
both
both
groups
of
passengers.
Exactly
exactly
has
been
discussed.
My
point
of
view:
that's
a
lower
level
of
complaints
that
have
come
to
the
council
than
we've
had
in
previous
years
from
a
broader
point
on
traffic
management.
T
More
generally,
if
you're
looking
to
get
tens
of
thousands
of
people
away
from
that
site
quickly,
it
is
very
helpful
if
the
the
vehicles
can
get
back
into
the
festival
site
relatively
easily
and
the
passengers
can
get
to
those
I
think
we
call
them
pens,
don't
we
and
the
various
pens
and
to
to
follow
Mike's
Point,
really,
the
difference
between
taxis,
Hadley
carriages
and
private
hire.
T
T
The
traffic,
the
more
those
drivers
will
probably
say
I
can
I,
can
work
in
Leed,
City,
Center
I,
don't
need
to
service
the
festival
if
they're,
not
pre-booked,
they're
not
refusing
a
journey,
and
we
want
to
mix
of
of
people
to
make
sure
that
so
a
mix
of
vehicles
to
make
sure
that
those
those
people
all
get
home
as
as
quickly
as
they
can.
But
it's
more
a
traffic
traffic
Point
than
it's
actually
a
licensing
point.
S
Mrting,
just
just
make
a
comment:
really
vehicle
licensing
do
not
have
an
unlimited
amount
of
Enforcement
Officers.
They
cannot
be
there
at
all
times.
Now,
one
enforcement
officer
there
they
would
enforce
the
regulations
of
Hackney,
carriage
and
private
all
licensing.
You
know
because
they're
not
there
at
all
times,
it's
impossible
to
be
able
to
regulate
the
to
and
fro
of
the
vehicles
and
the
situation
that
that
is
that
takes
place
with
flagging.
Now
you
know
these
are
the
facts
of
life.
S
It's
people
will
always
try
to
take
an
advantage
when
the
law
or
the
security
measures
are
the
school.
The
people
who
enjoyed
to
try
to
make
sure
that
the
enforcement
is
taken
place.
People
always
take
advantage
of
it.
These
are
the
things
that
we're
trying
to
start
we're,
trying
to
make
sure
that
the
public
safety
is
Paramount,
that
they
get
home
safely.
They
get
home
in
a
legally
provided
vehicle
and
we
can
track
the
vehicle
to
make
sure
if
there's
any
issues
we
know
who
it
is
which
car
it
is,
etc,
etc.
Thank
you.
A
You
I've
got
councilor
Martin,
please.
C
T
The
way
that
the
the
way
the
council
approaches,
that
is,
if
we
deal
with
a
driver
who
has
taken
a
a
passenger
without
a
booking,
the
council
would
consider
Prosecuting
that
driver
for
both
applying
for
hire
and
and
working
without
being
properly
insured,
so
that
that's
definitely
the
starting
point.
Council
Martin,
whether
then
some
information
might
come
out
in
in
the
case
more
specifically,
but
we
would
certainly
consider
Prosecuting
for
both.
Yes,.
S
Thank
you
as
Andrew
said,
there's
a
slight
difference.
S
A
private
hire
company
is
owned
by
one
or
two
individuals,
and
it's
that
particular
company
that
owns
the
license
for
that
company,
whereas
a
Hackney
Carriage
is
licensed
individually
by
the
actual
driver.
So
the
driver
has
that
ability
to
build
a
pickup
off
the
street
and
he's
licensed
at
all
times
to
be
able
to
pick
up
off
the
street
when
the
tax
is
hail
by
the
member
of
the
public,
which
is
not
the
case
for
private
hire.
Q
Certainly,
on
the
positive
lighting
and
signage,
we've
acknowledged
that
we
will
definitely
do
better
it'll,
be
a
big
priority.
I
think
the
point
that
you
mentioned,
not
necessarily
with
a
great
deal
of
intent
to
mention,
but
that
getting
into
cars
that
are
unknown
where
people
don't
know
about
who
who
the
driver
is
that
sort
of
stuff.
Q
I've
made
a
point
there
where
we
will
certainly
alert
people
to
getting
into
cars
that
are
not
pre-booked
or
licensed,
or
that
they're
aware
of,
if
they're
on
their
own
in
particular,
and
that
that's
something
that
I
will
certainly
raise
up
the
profile
in
terms
of
the
Black
and
Whites
versus
the
pre-booked.
At
the
front,
I'm
really
clear
about
this,
unfortunately,
and
and
a
pre-booked
needs
to
be
at
the
front
a
because
we
should
reward
those
that
have
made
the
effort
to
pre-book
a
taxi
to
get
themselves
home.
Q
They
shouldn't
have
to
walk
further
B
if
the
Black
and
Whites
are
at
the
front.
Those
that
have
pre-booked
and
see
a
black
and
white
may
be
inclined
to
jump
into
the
black,
might
and
lead
the
pre-book
high
and
dry,
and
that
will
reduce
the
desire
for
the
pre-books
to
come
back
in
the
future,
so
I'm
pretty
clear
on
it.
You
know:
that's
that's
how
I
want
to
organize
it.
Q
Unfortunately,
you
know
the
I
do
think
that
we
should
reward
those
that
have
organized
themselves
and
got
a
pre-booked
taxi
set
up
foreign.
S
I
understand
what
he
said:
Mr
Ben,
but
as
I
say,
the
problem
is
that
certain
individuals
don't
always
follow
the
rules
and
regulations,
and
that's
the
that's
the
problem
which,
let's
let
your
side
down
when
private
hire,
can't
get
a
signal
for
whatever
reason
and
it's
a
documented
fact
that
we've
seen
private
I
walk
into
the
front
of
the
public
cherry
picking
the
people
and
I.
Don't
know
how
you're
going
to
stop
it
other
than
swapping
around
the
locations
of
the
taxi.
So
that's
that's
a
problem
that
you're
gonna
have
to
look
at.
C
Just
quickly,
do
you
take
payment
from
any
private
hire
company
for
giving
them
priority
of
space
rather
than
the
Hackney
carriages?
Thank
you.
Q
A
Okay,
if
there
aren't
any
other
questions,
thank
you
for
your
reply.
Mr
Ben.
If
there
are
any
other
questions,
then
we
shall
move
on.
Thank
you,
Andrew
Mistral
Tink.
For
your
time,
we'll
stick
with
the
theme
of
traffic
management
Helen,
who
do
we
have
traffic
management,
I,
I'm,
sure
I
saw
highways
England
there
yeah.
L
You
Chad
Dave
skubski
operations,
manager
from
National
highways
and
I
lead
on
the
planning
for
Leeds
Festival
to
give
an
overview,
I
think
the
report
that's
been
provided
by
Mr
Gardner
from
Lead
City
Council
in
relation
to
the
the
traffic
management
is,
is
very
accurate,
including
the
points
there
that
he's
made
from
National
highways
point
of
view,
I
think
for
2022.
We
were
very
happy
around
the
level
of
Engagement
between
ourselves
or
the
members
of
the
traffic
subgroup
and
Festival
Republic.
L
Following
the
debrief
from
the
2021
Festival.
There
were
particular
elements
and
aspects
that
we
wanted
to
see
improved.
L
L
The
the
only
real
issues
that
we
saw
for
2022
were
during
the
the
egress
period,
the
the
Ingress
throughout
sort
of
Wednesday
onwards.
We
felt
all
worked
well,
the
Sunday
night,
the
the
traffic
was
slower,
which
impacted
back
onto
the
the
a1m,
but
we're
already
working
with
Festival
Republic
sort
of
for
the
planning
for
the
2023
event,
and
there
are
additional
elements
that
we
feel
can
be
improved
for
this
year
to
manage
that,
as
as
best
as
possible.
It
is
always
going
to
be
more
difficult.
L
Getting
people
out
than
it
is
for
getting
people
in,
as
some
of
has
already
been
discussed
in
terms
of
sort
of
taxi,
pickup
and
pickup
is
slower
than
drop
off,
because
people
have
to
be
reunited
with
the
vehicles
that
they
are.
People,
who've,
potentially
dropped
them
off,
and
it's
just
naturally
a
slower
process.
L
A
A
We'll
go
on
to
fire
safety.
Please
do
we
have
Chris
Hargreaves
here.
A
A
R
A
Don't
know
okay,
unfortunately
members
we
won't
be
able
to
hear
from
the
Fire
Authority,
so
fire
safety
will
have
to
address
another
meeting,
welfare
and
safeguarding.
So
who
do
we.
P
A
Yorkshire
Ambulance
Service
would
like
to
like
to
join
us,
we'll
be
able
to
talk
about
welfare
and
Safeguard
about
under
medical
as
well.
Is
that
okay.
A
U
Service,
emergency
preparedness,
resilience
and
response.
U
U
So
that
said,
the
the
clinical
aspect
of
the
cover
that
was
provided
was
good
and
what
you'd
tend
to
find
in
an
NHS
setting
anywhere
I
did
receive
a
breakdown
of
the
conditions
that
were
sent
into
hospital
and,
in
answer
to
some
of
your
questions
around
decreasing
those
transports,
as
a
clinician
myself,
all
on
that
list
would
be
something
that
need
further
review
from
an
A
E
setting,
regardless
of
whether
you've
got
the
a
e
doctors
on
site.
U
So
what
labor
around
the
clinical
aspect,
because
clinically
the
the
staff
that
were
there,
are
all
registered
to
UK
State
authorities,
the
practice
that
they
did
on
on
the
day
around
the
certain
incidents
there
were.
There
were
no
complaints
from
us
or
from
other
clinical
backgrounds.
U
So
the
majority
of
our
feedback
is
around
the
the
preparedness
and
planning
going
into
the
event
and
so
issues
beyond
your
control
at
Festival
Republic
around
the
medical
coordinator
and
the
the
sort
of
lack
of
provision
and
short
notice
uptake
on
that
in
the
14
days
going
into
the
festival
we
found
during
the
14
days
running
into
it,
that
the
medical
plan
had
some
gaps,
all
of
which
we
fed
back
in
and
met
with
yourselves
and
was
rectified
going
into
the
event.
U
We
did
an
inspection
during
the
weekend
and
we
covered
a
few
points
there
around
major
incident
and
the
command
and
control
aspect
of
the
company.
So
it's
worth
noting
that,
in
terms
of
CQC
registration,
although
code
blue
weren't
registered
the
the
Republic
of
Ireland,
probably
has
a
better
spec
than
the
CQC,
which
is
a
pre-hospital
emergency
care.
Registration
So
within
their
own
geographical
area
in
Ireland
they've,
probably
got
the
same
quality
as
what
you
get
from
the
CQC
over
here.
U
That
said,
the
command
and
control.
For
this
event,
the
provision
that
they
brought
to
site
in
terms
of
major
incident
equipment,
the
triage
for
mass
casualty,
was
lacking
and
their
awareness
of
the
site
where
certain
areas
could
be
formed.
Should
there
be
an
incident
whether
that
have
been
a
crush,
an
MTA
which
is
a
modern
terrorist
attacker.
U
These
were
things
that
were
highlighted
and
there
were
very
little
answer
and
that
comes
back
to
the
planning
stage.
A
lack
of
engagement
at
the
tabletop
exercise
would
have
covered
some
of
these
issues.
We
as
Yorkshire
Ambulance
Service
there
as
part
of
the
SAG
process
to
inspect
we
put
a
commander
in
and
that
Commander
is
there.
U
Should
they
be
required
to
to
reach
out
into
further
NHS
Provisions
in
times
of
of
major
incident
critical
incident,
so
the
the
control
of
those
medical
resources,
if
solely
down
to
that
medical
company
to
begin
with,
until
we
as
a
statutory
were
to
arrive
on
scene
and
take
over
the
infrastructure
within
the
site
set
up
the
medical
center,
probably
a
little
bit
on
the
small
side.
U
Given
the
attendance
we
fed
back
in
around
this
round
having
a
waiting
area
where
patients
coming
forward,
if
it
had
been
raining,
I
mean
it
was,
it
were
ridiculously
hot
that
weekend,
and
so
it
was
both
ways
having
a
cool
environment
for
him
to
wait
in
off
sheltered
from
the
elements
if
it
were
to
be
in
the
opposite
again,
points
that
were
noted
and
have
been
picked
up
since
The
Specialist
triage
areas,
that's
side
of
stage.
U
Again
it
comes
down
to
the
planning
and
preparedness
of
of
the
company
that
were
that
were
tendered.
There
was
some
difference
in
opinion
and
of
how
the
ways
of
working
should
have
been
done.
Splitting
resources
between
sites
once
we
highlighted
that
it
wasn't
feasible
what
what
they
had
in
place.
U
The
company
rectified
that
immediately
and
they
did
have
other
Staffing
where
they
were
able
to
put
that
extra
stuff
in
at
each
side
of
stage,
as
requested
by
us
around
the
X-ray
provision.
This
this
was
sourced
very
late.
U
It's
been
a
little
bit
of
a
frustration
for
the
last
few
years,
given
that
the
event
happens
every
weekend.
We
we
feel
that
it's
something
that
can
be
got
on
top
of
early
and
pleased
to
say
that
Festival
Republic
have
started
their
medical
planning.
Early
we've
had
correspondence
since
the
middle
of
December
I
think
it
was
from
yourselves
with
these
assurances
foreign.
U
Think
that's
about
it.
So
the
top
lines
from
Us
is
around
that
major
incident
and
command
and
control
aspect.
The
early
planning,
the
preparedness
as
I
say.
That's
already
started.
We've
been
approached
to
give
some
pointers
of
assurances
that
Festival
Republic
should
be
seeking
out
of
a
medical
provider.
U
We
can't
suggest,
because
we've
got
our
own
interests
in
terms
of
Yorkshire
ambulance
service,
commercial
services,
so
we
do
have
to
sit
on
the
fence,
but
we
have.
We
have
given
advice
on
what
we'd
look
for
the
company
that
they've
gone
with,
have
worked
for
York
Chamberlain
Service
as
part
of
our
subcontracting
regime,
so
they
are
well
versed
with
NHS
working
practices
and
large-scale
events.
O
A
That's
that's
great
Mr
Senate
was
really
competitive.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
time
you've
taken
to
put
that
report
together.
Members.
O
Explain
what
you
did
you
did
suggest
that
the
the
medical
team
there
reacted
to
the
suggestions
that
you
actually
made
for
improving
the
shortcomings
that
were
identified
are
more
interested
in
the
command
and
control
and
the
the
management
that
you
you
sort
of
commented
on,
which
you
really
can't
effect.
O
I
would
imagine
these
are
things
that
you'll
be
done
in
advance
of
the
of
the
vessel
rather
than
at
it,
and
I
just
wondered
what
your
what
Your
views
were
on
I
mean
with
City
management
available
on
site,
or
was
it
were
there
junior
staff
or
was
there?
Were
they
composition
to
actually
do
what
they
were
supposed
to
be
doing
in
terms
of
command
and
control
management,
rather
than
the
first
aid
side?.
U
U
If
something
were
to
have
happened
that
triage
ability
in
how
we
in
the
UK
prioritize
medical
emergencies
at
a
major
incident,
they
probably
wouldn't
have
been
able
to
that
said,
there
are
ad
hoc
ways
of
doing
it,
which
I'm
sure
they
would
have
improvised
with
and
they
had
a
coordinator
or
a
Commando,
maybe
going
forward
that
stronger
word
of
a
medical
Commander
needs
to
be
used,
and
so
they
do
have
that
Authority
to
them
in
terms
of
qualification
in
the
UK,
we're
very
Jesse
LED,
the
Republic
of
Ireland
I'm
unsure
what
they
have
as
an
equivalent
and
when
we
talked
about
Jessup
to
them
it
wasn't
a
familiar
term
or
a
work
in
practice.
U
U
The
their
sort
of
lead,
I,
think
who
was
Tom
he's
got
an
extensive
background
in
pre-hospital
care
and
other
emergency
major
incident
roles.
But
that's
Republic
of
Ireland
based,
so
it's
not
just
about
the
ambulance
provision.
It's
about
the,
how
that's
integrated
into
the
other
blue
light
services
and
The
Wider
wider
category,
one
Community!
U
U
What's
the
right
word
expectation
might
it
might
have
differed,
which
is
again
why
we
are
on
site
as
a
backup
so
to
speak
and
that
Gateway
into
the
The
Wider
NHS,
but
they
were
overstaffed.
They
were
able
to
make
changes
as
requested
and
for
the
majority
of
things
that
come
through
the
clinical
environment.
Slips
trips
falls
breaks
the
the
more
than
capable
of
doing,
and
then
they
demonstrated
at
that
higher
end
of
resource
care,
the
ability
to
do
that
with
with
the
drug
overdose.
O
U
The
provision
that
they
had
yes
in
terms
of
being
able
to
categorize
those
patients
effectively
And
Timely
the
awareness
of
the
site
and
where
they
could
have
set
up
different
provisions
on
that
site.
So
we
look
at
casualty.
Clearing
casualty,
collection
points,
the
site
knowledge
was
quite
lacking
in
terms
of
controlling
of
their
resources.
I
think
that
I
have
no
doubt
they
would
have
been
able
to
do
that.
They
do
it.
U
Other
events
and
they're
well
versed
in
that
it's
just
the
the
provision
and
the
planning
that
they
came
with
was
inadequate
and,
as
planning
is
a
major
part,
then
it
may
have
fallen
down.
Should
that
have
occurred.
C
Just
thinking
of
going
forward
and
that
that
point
that
you've
made
on
planning
and
I
think
you
mentioned
that
it
would
have
been
useful
if
the
company
had
been
there
for
the
tabletop
exercise.
Is
that
something
that
you
would
like
required
from
the
company
for
this
year
for
20
yeah
for
this
year?
Coming.
U
Yeah
so
I
believe
company
engages
with
the
table
topic
size,
it's
the
medical
provider
that
wasn't
there
on
this
occasion,
so
the
the
expectation
fell
down
to
what
would
the
medical
provider
do
and
that
was
asked
to
York
travel
and
service
were
not
there
as
a
medical
provider.
So
we
couldn't
comment
on
that.
U
Going
forward.
Lucy
and
Jeannie
have
taken
on
the
comments
of
making
sure
that
whoever
they
employ
is
at
the
table
topic
size.
We've
also
recommended
a
clinical
exercise
and
to
give
Assurance
around
that
level
of
of
care
that
can
be
provided.
It's
something.
U
That's
done,
pre-hospitalized,
something
that
we
we
do,
specialist
teams
that
will
exercise
week
in
week
out
against
certain
scenarios
such
as
a
in
the
in
this
case
it
would
be
pertinent
to
do
a
drug
resource
scenario,
so
the
these
points
have
been
taken
on
board
as
part
of
the
early
planning
for
this
year.
Q
I
think
the
the
summary
is
accurate,
I
think
that's
fair.
Just
for
clarity
of
reason
of
change,
because
I
think
it
is
important.
Really
we
changed
from
Elite
in
2021
to
code
blue
in
2022,
because
the
lead
person
from
Elite
left
Elite
to
join
code
blue
and
he
had
been
the
lead
liaison
person
with
Yorkshire
ambulance
at
Leeds
festival
for
as
many
years
as
I
can
remember
and
being
the
lead
Planet
for
as
many
years
as
I
can
remember
and
so
and
I.
Q
You
know,
we
I
know
Yorkshire
ambulance,
valued,
that
relationship
with
him
and
somehow
the
planning
and
undertakings
that
he
provided
when
he
was
with
Elite
didn't
materialize
when
they,
when
he
moved
to
code
blue,
which
is
why
we've
moved
back
to
Elite.
Q
That's
just
a
by
way
of
reference
and
Clarity,
because
I
do
think
it
I.
Imagine
a
number
of
people
were
wondering
why
we
had
gone
to
code
blue,
and
that
was
the
reason
the
principal
person
had
moved
from
one
company
to
another
and
he
had
been
the
lead
person
for
medical
provision
on
Leeds
festival
for
maybe
not
since
1999,
but
certainly
for
as
long
as
I
can
remember,
I
think
other
than
that.
The
summary
is
accurate.
Q
I
would
have
no
concern
about
it
other
than
to
raise
the
point
in
terms
of
command
and
control
in
a
major
incident.
My
team
and
operate
no
command
and
control
and
the
blue
light
Services
operate
command
and
control
in
a
major
incident
and
my
team
offer
Support
Services
as
opposed
to
the
command
and
control.
Q
It's
a
small
but
I
do
think
it's
an
important
point
just
to
raise
and
to
clarify
and
my
team
I'm
certain
would
have
been
very
capable
of
sitting
into
that
support
service
structure
and
it
taking
instruction
as
required
from
the
command
and
control
of
Yorkshire
ambulance,
in
that
circumstance
really
other
than
that
genome.
No
further
points.
A
And
I
invite
up
our
LCC
environmental
health,
please
to
look
at
noise
nuisance
if
there
are
any
other
partner
agencies
that
that
feel
that
they'll
be
able
to
contribute
to
that
discussion.
Please
come
up.
V
Oh
hi
return:
it's
a
manager,
environmental
health.
My
team
deals
with
complaints
in
relation
to
noise
nuisance
and
also
we
feed
into
the
public
safety
from
a
work
perspective,
so
crowd
management
and
stuff
like
that.
So
we
have
offices
on
site
over
the
whole
weekend
and
we
are
well
involved
with
the
planning
of
the
event
and
we
attend
the
SAG
groups
and
we
work
closely
with
Festival
Republic
and
their
experts
and
so
Public
Safety
experts
and
their
noise
Consultants.
V
So
we
have
cover
for
through
the
night
for
noise,
nuisance
and
officers
are
on
site
from
ten
to
six
a.m.
So
for
the
duration
of
the
licensable
activities
this
year
we
didn't
receive
any
complaints
in
relation
to
noise
nuisance,
which
I
think
is
a
first
and
we
work
closely
with
the
crowd,
Dynamics
Team,
to
make
sure
that
any
issues
around
movement
around
the
site
from
crowds
was
dealt
with
and
we
have
good
working
relationship.
C
C
V
V
We
had
extra
patrols
extra
monitoring
sites
around
the
site.
The
weather
obviously
does
play
A
Part.
V
There
was
some
controls
put
in
this
place
because
in
previous
years
we've
had
issues
with
noise
from
the
fairground,
so
some
controls
are
put
in
place
around
that
this
year
by
Festival
Republic
and
basically,
they
utilize
the
red
card
system.
So
if
any
complaints
were
received
and
the
gets
a
warning
and
if
it
continued
and
it
continued
to
cause
noise
nuisance,
this
is
post
11
o'clock,
11
p.m.
V
Then
they
would
be
us
to
live
site
and
it
it
seems
to
have
worked
really
really
well
to
be
honest
and
we
have
a
good
relationship
as
Festival
Republic
have
their
own
reporting
line
and
details
go
out
to
the
local
communities
and
we
also
have
the
noise
nuisance
line,
so
the
city
Lisa
to
cancel
one
and
they
can
contact
officers
on
site.
A
Out
onto
both
of
you,
no
complaints,
that
is
a
first,
isn't
it
fantastic
anything
to
comment
on
or
members
would
like
to
ask
questions
to
to
e
to
either
parties
around
health
and
safety
no
probably
address
those
in
a
closed
session
more
so,
okay.
Thank
you
very
much.
That
was
great.
Thank
you.
B
Good
afternoon
everyone,
my
name's
Matthew
Davis
and
I'm,
a
superintendent
from
oyster,
Yorkshire
police.
Thank
you
very
much
for
this
opportunity.
I
know.
I
got
the
opportunity
also
to
address
members
previously,
so
I
won't
take
up
too
much
time
just
to
offer
the
the
chance
for
you
to
ask
any
questions
of
me
from
my
perspective
is
lead
silver.
Obviously,
events
in
2022
were
overshadowed
by
the
death
of
David
celino
and
from
a
policing
perspective.
B
98,
offenses,
recorded
and
50
arrests
is
the
the
the
work
that
my
staff
and
teams
were
undertaking,
and
it
feels
remiss
not
to
point
that
out
before
I
go
on
to
say
that
actually,
in
terms
of
invent
of
this
magnitude
and
size,
and
in
my
experience
as
a
silver
Commander
going
back
over
a
number
of
years
to
do
in
many
in
varied
events,
the
event
was
largely
very
successful.
B
I
agree
with
a
number
of
the
submissions
and
questions
that
have
been
asked
to
this
point
and
clearly
is
the
political,
social
and
economic
landscape
changes
so
do
or
does
our
approach
to
managing
a
safe
festival
and
every
year
we
come
to
these
meetings
and
undertake
to
read
double
our
efforts.
What
I
would
say
is
that
I'm
very
grateful
to
all
Partners
on
the
table.
I
think
everybody
pulls
together
very
very
well.
B
We
are
improving
things
particularly
to
Festival
Republic
and
we're
always
extremely
receptive
to
any
recommendations
that
we
make
from
counter-terrorism
measures
through
to
safeguarding
young
people,
and
hopefully
we
can
build
on
that
going
forwards.
Obviously,
as
a
responsible
Authority,
there
are
four
areas
in
which
I
can
submit
information
and
evidence
I'm
aware
of
the
fact
that
there
is
another
meeting
coming
up
so
I'm
not
going
to
take
up
too
much
time
by
doing
that,
but
I
will
take
any
questions.
A
A
No
I
think
it'll
wait
until
the
closed
session,
then,
but
thank
you
for
that
public
report.
So
next
on
the
list
I
have
Salvage
and
cleaning.
Is
there
any
anybody
in
the
in
the
benches
that
wants
to
come
up
and
discuss
that?
Is
there
anybody
that's
not
been
up
yet
that
deserves
something
to
add
to
the
Open.
Session
can't
see
anybody
indicating
now,
in
which
case
then
I
think
we
shall
move
to
the
the
closed
session.
Please
Clark.
R
A
Right,
thank
you.
Everyone
I
know.
It's
been
a
long
meeting,
but
it's
been
very
worthwhile.
I
do
want
to
extend
my
fan
thanks
to
to
Mr
Ben
and
the
festival
Republic
team
as
well,
especially
if
you
responses
today,
I
think
you've
you've
shown
that
you
you've,
listened
to
what
responsible
of
agencies
and
the
licensing
committee
have
had
to
say
in
our
learning
lessons
from
the
festival
that
took
place
last
year.
So
thank
you
for
your
comments
and
your
contributions.
A
Members
can
we
please
accept
recommendation
number
a
also
recommendation
B,
which
we
have
been
into
closed
session.
So
can
we
acknowledge
that
you're
all
happy
with
that
A
and
B?
Please,
if
you
can
indicate
thank
you
very
much
and
in
that
case
I'll
just
say
as
well.
So
thank
you
to
everybody
that
attended
today.
You've
all
been
fantastic
and
and
put
in
a
lot
of
work
to
be
here
and
make
sure
you've
been
able
to
make
a
meaningful
contribution.
So
thank
you
very
much.
A
I
will
now
move
to
agenda
agenda
item
number
eight,
which
is
the
date
and
time
of
the
next
committee
meeting,
which
is
the
Tuesday,
the
14th
of
March
23
at
10
o'clock,
and
that
concludes
today's
licensing
committee
meeting.
Thank
you
again
to
everybody.
Who's
attended
and
contributed.