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A
With
applications
from
City
Center,
as
well
as
the
largest
and
most
significant
applications,
this
Council
receives,
the
aim
of
the
panel
is
to
hear
all
the
relevant
information
from
applicants.
Members
of
the
public
Council
officers
to
help
members
of
the
panel
make
their
decisions,
could
I
now
invite
members
and
officers
to
introduce
themselves
and
mute
your
microphones
once
you
have
done
so.
If
I
start
on
my
left,
please
does
it
good.
K
Good
afternoon
Stephen
Valley
design
officer.
J
A
Thank
you
for
that,
and
welcome
can
I
move
on
to
agenda
item
number
one
then
Andy.
L
Please,
thank
you,
chair
under
agenda
item
number
one.
There
are
no
appeals
against
the
refusal
of
inspection
of
documents
under
item
number
two.
We
have
no
items
which
require
the
exclusion
of
the
press
in
public
under
item
number
three.
We
have
no
late
items
of
business
today.
Moving
on
to
agenda
item
number
four
could
ask
members
if
they've
got
any
interest
to
declare
nope
moving
on
to
agenda
item
number
five:
we've
got
apologies
from
councilors
Brooks,
Garth,
West
and
Khan,
and
we
have
councilors
Renshaw,
Thompson
and
walshaw
in
attendance
and
substitutes
today.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
To
Andy
and
thank
you
for
our
substitutes
today,
Council
Renshaw,
Council
Walsh.
What's
another
one,
Andy
councilor
Thompson
councilor,
Thompson
councilor,
Thompson
hi!
Thank
you
for
that
we'd
be
lost
without
a
substitute.
So
thank
you
for
stepping
up
to
the
breach
moving
on.
Can
we
go
to
the
minutes
of
the
8th
of
September,
please,
which
is
on
page
number
seven
and
if
I
go
through
it
in
my
usual
way,
page
seven
there's
never
much
on
the
first
page.
Is
it
page
eight.
A
Page,
nine
and
finally
page
10.
A
is
there:
can
we
agree
to
that
as
a
correct
record?
Those
who
were
there
yep
I
see
all
around
nods?
Is
there
any
muscles
arising
from
members
no
well
with?
In
that
case,
may
we
move
on
to
page
11,
then
agenda
item
7
are
only
item
on
the
agenda,
which
is
a
pre-up
Tim.
Do
you
want
to
say
anything
by
way
of
introduction,
or
we
can
go
straight
to
the
Developers.
E
Just
just
briefly,
then,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
chair
as
members,
probably
why
this
is
a
key
site
at
the
Western
Gateway
into
the
city
center,
immediately
immediately
to
the
west
of
Lisbon
Street
and
the
former
International
pool
site,
which
is
now
on
site.
E
We've
had
some
really
productive
meetings
and
discussions
with
the
developers
team
over
recent
months,
but
I
think
Now's
the
Time
the
times
right
to
to
gauge
and
learn
members
members
comments
on
the
proposals,
particularly
in
particularly
in
relation
to
the
scale
and
layout
of
the
scheme
and
the
the
general
setting
of
The
the
proposals.
Thank
you
so
shall
I
pass
to
Andy
to
sorry
Adam's
going
to
introduce
the
team.
Thank
you.
M
Hi,
yes,
I'm
Adam,
desperate
from
Glen
House
access
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
applicant.
A
Okay
Adam,
when
you're
ready.
Please
welcome
to
this
afternoon's
meeting
and,
as
you
know,
you
have
10
minutes,
you're
the
only
item
on
the
agenda,
so
we
might
be
a
bit
more
flexible
than
that,
because
members
will
want
to
gain
as
much
information
from
this
session
as
we
can
so
yeah.
A
Please,
don't
worry
Tim
will
give
you
a
couple
of
minutes
over
okay.
So
if
you
introduce
here
on
your
colleagues,
if
they
come
in,
please
would
they
introduce
themselves
too.
Thank
you
when.
M
You're
ready,
of
course,
thank
you
very
much
chair.
Yes,
so
thanks
so
much
for
this
opportunity
to
talk
you
through
our
schemas
that
Adam
does
from
glenhouse
Architects
here
on
path,
the
applicant,
so
thanks
so
much
yeah,
we've
got
a
fair
few
slides
to
get
through
so
I
mean
I.
Think
I'll
I'll
wrap
through
this
and
try
and
keep
the
10
minutes.
But
you
know
we've.
We've
got
ample
time
after
to
come
back
to
any
of
this.
M
If
need
be
so
I
think
you'll
you'll
all
be
familiar
this
side
as
Tim
introduced.
You
know
key
sites
here
at
the
Western
Gateway
of
the
city
system
between
Weddington
streets
and
the
a58.
M
So
you
know
for
us:
I
think
you
know
again
contests
have
been
introduced,
but
you
know
at
the
moment
it's
a
collection
of
low-scale
existing
buildings,
but
you
know
really
fundamental
strategic
position
and,
as
has
been
pointed
out,
you
know
this
is
certainly
you
know
one
piece
of
the
jigsaw
you
know
in
in
a
number
of
sites
which
are
coming
forward.
M
The
ass
for
poolside
and
the
Cooper
Gates
can
escape
stream
scheme
as
well,
which
is
currently
in
you
know
under
decision
it's
not
on
this.
This
slide
as
well,
but
also
the
castle
house
and
West
one
as
well,
are
very
soon
going
to
be
on
site.
So
you
know
real
collection
and
for
us
you
know
it's
an
opportunity
to
you
know
really.
You
know
bring
all
these
Collective
developments
together,
really
connect
them.
M
You
know,
through
fantastic
public
spaces,
improve
ability
and-
and
really
you
know
together-
it's
about
creating.
You
know
fantastic
mixed-use
scheme
and
then
for
us
as
well.
You
know
we'll
happily
talk
about
architectural
day,
but
you
know
it
was
really
a
collection
of
really
distinctive
buildings
worthy
of
this,
this
important
site.
M
M
You
know,
we've
we've
been
reviewing,
scale
massing
design
and
you
know,
architecture
and
highways.
You
know
in
lots
of
detail-
and
you
know,
over
the
past
four
or
five
pre-apps
we've
really
refined
and
evolved.
The
scheme-
and
you
know
today
we're
just
going
to
present-
you
know
what
we
think
is.
M
You
know
fantastic
and
bold,
ambitious
vision
for
this
part
of
the
city
and
the
the
three
buildings
we're
talking
about
a
bit
more
detail
to
say
is
two
Office
Buildings
and
a
residential
building
as
well,
but,
most
importantly,
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
you
know
a
new
green
space
and
fantastic
landscape
scheme
which
kind
of
ties
this
all
together.
M
So
yeah
that
connectivity,
you
know
bringing
on
all
the
adjacent
site,
support
site,
West,
End,
Village
and
Winston
Square
below
and
also
to
the
north
as
well
to
all
the
universities.
You
know
this
kind
of
West
End
connectivity
has
been
really
important
in
kind
of
bringing
together
all
these
all
these
developments,
some
in
plan
fairly
hard
to
see,
but
you
know
I
hope
you
can
pick
out
the
red
line.
M
You
know
we're
bringing
very
soon
a
full
detailed
application
comprising
the
three
buildings
with
associate
public
realm,
and
you
know,
as
part
of
that,
you
know
we
we
think
we've
got
fantastic
strategy
for
movement
which
puts
pedestrians
first.
M
M
All
the
red
areas
you
can
see
on
screen
are
front
doors,
so
you
know
it's
trying
to
activate.
You
know
these
new
public
spaces
and
routes
with
with
activity
at
ground
floor.
M
M
We've
had
extensive
consultation
with
highways
and
we
think
we've
got
a
really
great
strategy
which
doesn't
compromise
on
the
kind
of
quality
of
the
public
realm
but
allows.
Obviously
you
know
these
buildings
to
be
serviced
and
the
public
realm
design.
M
You
know,
as
well
as
a
fantastic
Central
space
which
we'll
talk
about
a
bit
more
in
a
moment.
You
know
actually
number
one
and
five
at
the
North
and
South.
You
know
we're
facilitating
and
upgrading
existing
and
future
routes
as
well
for
pedestrians
and
cyclists.
M
So
you
know
so
the
the
new
space
at
the
heart
of
of
the
scheme
you
know,
offers
fantastic
varieties
place,
to
sit
and
dwell
and
we'll
be
surrounded
by
active,
Frontage
and
lots
of
trees.
M
And
you
know
this
is
a
very
generous
space
actually
as
well,
so
you
know
very
comparable
to
Sovereign
square
and
some
other
schemes
which
are
you
know
in
the
pipeline
as
well,
so
very
generous
space
at
the
heart
of
the
scheme
and
just
Satan
a
bit
of
a
journey
or
new
kind
of
arrival,
so
Wellington
streets,
we're
you
know
we're
looking
to
kind
of
upgrade
grows,
Grove
Street
itself.
M
It's
to
the
back
of
that
retain
the
existing
trees
and
upgrade
the
the
landscape
there
and
provide
a
segregated
cycle
foot
way,
as
well
as
a
new
Colonnade,
which
is
double
height
and
you
know,
provides
activity
and
spill
out
directly
onto
Wellington's
Wellington
Street.
M
Just
between
the
two
buildings,
you
just
about
to
see
a
new
kind
of
dedicated
cycle
and
cycle
out
route
as
well
between
the
two
Office
Buildings
down
to
the
basement
main
arrival
from
the
city.
Then
we'll
be
you
know
via
Lisbon
Street
generally,
and
you
know
that
that
will
be
surrounded
by
active
advantages
on
the
corner
of
the
the
office
building
on
the
left
and
the
residential
building
on
the
right
again,
with
places
to
dwell
and
new
Greenery
and
your
arrival
from
the
West
on
crop
Brigade.
M
You
know
just
ask
give
you
an
idea
of
you
know
the
size
of
this
new
Central
space,
the
shared
pedestrian
privacy
route
between,
and
you
can
just
see
the
the
kind
of
proposals
for
the
pool
site
just
between
the
two
buildings
as
well.
So
really
green,
active
and
you
know,
with
people
coming
in
from
the
north
on
the
future
cycle
route.
Then
you'll
be
greeted
with.
You
know:
a
lovely,
generous
lawn
space.
M
M
You
know
the
number
of
trees
as
well,
so
really
significant
approach
in
terms
of
the
of
the
landscape
and
for
the
buildings
you
know
with
the
three
buildings
you
know.
The
idea
here
was
to
actually
you
know
for
them
to
read
as
a
family
of
buildings,
so
obviously
very
distinctive.
But
you
know
the
the
intent
for
softer
Corners
and
it's
horizontal
language
allows
them
to
be
really
unified,
and
you
know
we're
looking
at
using
similar
material
palette
as
well.
M
We've
got
some
samples
at
the
funds
as
well
we're
happy
to
spend
some
time
afterwards
discussing,
but
really
the
horizontal
damage.
This
building
not
only
maximizes
the
panoramic
views,
whether
you're
working
one
of
The,
Office,
Buildings
or
living
in
one
of
the
residential
buildings.
You
know
it
helps
to
kind
of
enhance
the
light.
M
You
know
hide
away,
some
of
the
clutch
you
get
at
low
level,
actually
and
and
really
kind
of
maximize
and
balance
from
an
energy
point
of
view,
the
light
versus
you
know
trying
to
mitigate
overheating
as
well
and
in
terms
of
materials.
M
You
know
we
really
wanted
to
work
with
a
material
which
you
know
was
obviously
favorable
in
in
the
city,
but
also
something
which
gives
us
the
opportunity
to
have
texture
and
color,
and
you
know
for
us:
we've
we've
been
exploring
the
use
of
glazed
terracotta
in
different
tones
and
textures,
and
you
know
we're
looking
at
using.
You
know
various
shades
of
red
for
the
Office
Buildings
at
the
front
and
lighter
shades
of
white
contrast
with
some
of
the
the
neighboring
developments.
M
So
the
two
office
builds
at
the
front.
So
you
know
it's
completely
intentional
that
these
are
read
as
a
pair
of
buildings
and
the
the
massing
with
the
alternating
steps
in
The.
Terraces
is
kind
of
further
offset
by
the
the
different
shades
and
gradients
of
of
the
red
terracotta,
and
you
know
the
intent
is
that
these
can
be
fully
used
overall,
probably
up
to
three
and
a
half
thousand
people
could
work
across
both
these
buildings,
and
you
know
the
intent
is
that
these
are
the
best
in
class.
M
Healthy,
sustainable,
Office,
Buildings
and
you
know,
they've
been
designed
from
the
ground
up
to
kind
of
you
know,
hit
all
those
all
those
targets
in
terms
of
low
embodied
carbon
from
when
it's
built.
You
know
through
its
kind
of
operation
as
well-
and
you
know,
aside
from
that,
you
know
as
much
for
a
sense
of
cycle
facilities
and
making
sure
we
hit
the
kind
of
best-in-class
kind
of
accreditation
as
well
and
The.
M
Terraces
of
these
not
only
helps
to
kind
of
manage
the
scale
which
steps
up
towards
the
the
scheme
on
on
the
left,
but
also
you
know,
these
are
fully
kind
of
usable
and
green
Terraces
as
well,
which
offers
some
incredible
workspace
for
the
city
gives
that
true
sense
of
kind
of
inside
outside
working
the
residential
building.
So
you
know
this
isn't
only
unique
in
terms
of
the
height
of
it.
You
know
we
think
this
could
could
be.
M
The
topless
billion
leads
once
it's
completed,
but
also
the
form
as
well,
and
you
probably
asked
why
why
hexagon
I
mean
it's
it's
a
pure
form,
but
it
was
largely
a
result
of
a
kind
of
a
wider
Mass
planning
exercise
in
terms
of
Street
pattern.
M
And
then
you
know,
the
residual
in
terms
of
symmetrical
form
actually
allows
us
to
create
a
very
efficient,
360
degree
building
which
doesn't
have
a
back
to
it.
So
everyone
gets
a
fantastic
view
out
when
you
live
there,
and
this
provides
over
400
apartments,
fantastic
immunity,
space
which
I've
touched
in
a
moment,
and
you
know
the
the
idea
with
tool.
Building
of
the
scale
you
know
with
the
horizontal
language
is
really
to
kind
of
emphasize.
M
You
know
the
long
distance
views
as
well
and
then
the
closer
you
get
to
this
you'll
really
start
to
appreciate
the
kind
of
design
and
detailing
of
this,
and
the
lighter
buildings
then
start
to
contrast
with,
with
some
of
the
office
buildings
and
the
scheme
to
the
right
as
well.
It's
a
very
efficient
building.
You
know
and
designed
democratically
around
central
core.
M
M
You
know
obviously
operational
keeping
bills
down,
so
you
know
using
high
efficiency
systems
TVs
and
providing
you
know
natural
ventilation
and
extensive
Community
spaces
as
well-
and
you
know
these
will
all
be
designed
for
rentals,
so
they'll
come
fully
furnished
and
you
know,
will
be
incredibly
High
spec
and
offer
fantastic
views
across
the
city.
M
You
know
really
made
possible
by
those
panoramic
windows
the
top
floor,
as
mentioned
you
know,
as
well
as
the
lower
floors
in
terms
of
providing.
You
know
fantastic
Community
spaces
for
the
residents
in
terms
of
gym
on
the
top
of
the
building,
we're
looking
to
provide
a
fantastic
Skylanders
as
well,
so
rescules
really
benefit
from
those
fantastic
city
views
and
that's
it
for
me.
Hopefully
that
was
just
just
over
10
minutes
appreciate
that
was
fairly
quick
to
go
through
but
happy
to
take
any
questions.
M
We've
also
got
a
model,
a
scale
model
at
the
front
as
well,
which
we're
happy
to
come,
spend
some
time
discussing
after
and
we've
got
some
material
samples
as
well
of
the
Terracotta.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
A
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Adam.
Do
you
think
it's
necessary
for
members
to
have
a
look
at
the
model
and
they
could.
A
Can
we
come
back
to
order
please
we're
about
to
re-switch
on
the
TV,
please
Adam
when
Andy,
when
you're
ready.
J
A
We're
on
now,
okay,
thank
you
for
that.
Adam
I
think
the
model
was
very
useful.
I
certainly
enjoyed
looking
at
it,
gives
you
an
idea
to
scale
and
design
in
in
a
closer
up
form
than
a
picture,
but
I'm
sure
we'll
have
many
many
comments
from
members
and
I
thought
with
that.
Can
I
invite
members
to
ask
questions
at
this
stage.
Please
show
the
usual
way
and
Peter
you're.
First.
H
Thank
you,
a
couple
of
ones
to
start
off
with
we've
got
I
think
this
is
there's
a
real
positive
with
this
design
than
what
we
had
previously
that
there's
a
lot
of
additional
ways
through
the
site
and
rewriting
the
road
I
think
is
a
is
a
positive
to
make
that
more
of
a
continuous
route.
H
What
we've
had
a
lot
of
discussion
on
of
the
other
sites
nearby
is
the
shared
use
and
cycleway
that
goes
alongside
the
the
a58
there
when
to
just
a
bit
of
a
touch
on
there
about
making
it
a
welcoming
space,
I
think.
But
when
we
looked
at
where
your
entrances
were,
you
didn't
have
much
around
that
side
of
the
residential
building,
but
I
think
that
shared
use
cycleway
around
the
edge
would
benefit
from
a
lot
of
natural
surveillance
and
and
a
feeling
of
being
safe.
H
Otherwise,
the
work
that
you've
put
into
it
I
think
will
it
will
be
somewhat
lost
if
people
feel
it's
a
it's
a
bit
of
a
danger
for
themselves
to
go
through
that
way.
So
I
wonder
if
you
you
could
touch
on
that
and
whether
it's
possible
to
have
to
make
sure
there
is
some
active
Frontage
on
on
the
other
side
of
that
Residential
Building.
H
The
other
point
I
wanted
to
come
on
to
was
just
in
terms
of
the
design
really
and
looking
at
what
we've
got
so
far
on
the
cgis,
the
the
Office
Buildings
I'm,
reasonably
happy
with
and
I
really
like
the
look
of
those
on
the
cgis
from
ground
floor
as
well.
I
think
with
the
Colonnades
that
leads
to
a
lot
of
extra
space.
H
You've
got
a
lot
of
greenery
and
trees
around
there,
but
the
Residential
Building
I'm
a
bit
concerned
about
really
at
close
to
view
it's
okay,
but
I
I,
just
have
and
and
I
apologize
that,
obviously
my
architectural
knowledge
isn't.
It
doesn't
doesn't
equal
those
who
may
have
studied
it
in
depth,
but
I
think
it
might
be
the
white
appearance
of
it
or
others.
It
just
makes
me
look
at
it
like
it.
It's
some
kind
of
a
bit
of
a
dated,
look
to
it
and
it.
H
It
does
remind
me
of
probably
more
exciting
than
some
of
the
things
we'd
have
built
in
the
70s
from
the
hexagonal
approach,
but
those
kind
of
1970s
buildings
which
are
now
looking
a
bit
tired,
I,
think
some
of
that
might
be
in
the
color
that
we
see
on
the
on
the
cgis.
We've
got
that
it
looks
like
that
kind
of
off-white
style
that
could
be
a
concrete
building.
A
Thank
you,
Peter
very
useful,
beginning
to
our
conversation,
I'm
I'm
sure
we
will
explore
that
a
bit
more
from
Members
I
can
tell
you
Adam
on
the
side
visit.
That
was
one
of
the
comments
the
the
visiting
Council
has
made
as
well
I'm
a
bit
I'm
unsure
about
it,
I
think
in
some
ways
you
know
it.
The
white
does
show
up
very
well,
but
I'll
be
certainly
interested
in
your
comments
on
that
and
we'll
see
how
we
develop
on
that
one.
M
Thanks
very
much
I'll
respond
to
query
on
landscape
and
the
activity
then
I'll
pass
over
to
DAV
to
respond
on
the
art
test.
I
think
that's
a
fair
point
on
you
know
natural
surveillance
on
the
on
the
Northern,
Edge
I
think
it's
something
we'll
certainly
consider
there
is
the
ability,
certainly
around
the
corner,
to
provide
more
glazing
around
there
to
provide
some
activity.
M
So
that's
something
we'll
certainly
take
away
and
we'll
probably
need
to
you
know
through
the
application,
provide
some
additional
detailing
so
there'll
be
first
floor
where
there'll
be
residential,
so
there'll
be
a
bit
of
surveillance
on
there,
but
I
think
we
could
certainly
do
better
at
ground
floor.
So
we'll
certainly
take
that
point
away
and
review
that.
C
Hi
Dave
bansal
partner
at
glenhouse
Architects
in
terms
of
the
the
language
to
the
building.
C
You
know,
first
and
foremost,
it
is
that
pure
hexagon
form
and
we
were
Keen
to
ensure
that
from
a
distance,
the
graphics
of
this
building
are
appreciated
and
you
can
read
the
hexagon
form
so
having
that
Purity
was
to
make
sure
we
didn't
then
sort
of
plaster
a
lot
of
things
onto
it
and
that
you
read
it
and,
as
you
get
closer
to
the
building,
the
detailing
of
the
the
sort
of
metal
work
on
the
sales,
the
the
sort
of
the
as
you
can
see,
the
sample
on
the
Telecaster
having
a
sort
of
scalloped
shape
to
it
the
profile
and
we're
gonna.
C
You
know
we
will
be
testing
the
size
of
those
scallops
to
sort
of
see
at
what
distance
do
they
start
to
be
seen
in
a
closer
or
so
on,
but
also
in
the
glaze
aim,
and
so
what
it
will
do,
and
it's
very
hard
to
sort
of
I
guess
capture
the
sin
in
in
images.
It's
like
it
will
have
a
sort
of
very
interesting
reflectivity
to
it.
C
C
So
we
felt
that
we
wanted
to
keep
the
language
simple
and
you
know,
and
but
so
they
can
be
read
from
it
fed
from
a
distance,
but
as
he
got
closer
to
building
got
more
interesting
because
he
started
to
read
the
skin
on
the
building
and
I
think
the
color.
You
know
there
are
already
some
there's
a
there's,
a
big
big
building
on
the
on
the
ridgeback
site.
Then
you've
also
got
some
variety
of
buildings
on
the
pool
site.
So
we
did
test
a
number
of
variety
and
colors.
C
You
know
it
could
have
been
red
terracotta,
but
we
felt
that
that
would
tie
probably
get
lost
and
diluted
within
the
in
the
office
buildings
and
the
red
burnings
around
it.
So
go
for
something
that
was
light
and
Tall
meant
that
you
sort
of
read
the
graphics,
because
the
windows
would
always
pair
darker
they'll.
Always
you
know,
wind
is
always
darker
in
in
the
daylight,
but
so
that
being
a
dark
band,
if
we
could
have
the
bands
in
white
you'd
read
the
contrast
of
that
black
and
white
part
of
it.
C
You
mentioned
about
the
glazing
and
I
think
you
know
it's
obviously
important
that
we
don't
create
departments
that
will
overheat.
That
was
one
aspect
of
it.
That
would
be
important
to
make
sure
we
wanted
to
create
a
still
Level
so
that
any
furniture
any
back
of
TVs
and
all
that
clutter
that
we
all
we
all
actually
live
in
proper
homes
is
not
seen
on
the
facade
and
compromises
those
buildings
there.
So
that
was
all
set
at
800..
C
We've
got
to
cover
the
floor,
so
there's
a
sort
of
a
there's,
a
sort
of
environmental
aspect
to
it,
but
also
a
buildability
aspect
to
it
as
well.
But
when
you
are
at
that
cell
level,
at
750
800,
it
means
that
when
you
sit
on
your
dining
table
on
your
on
your
chair,
you
can
still
see
out
and
you're
not
looking
up
at
the
sky,
so
you
know
that
proportion
has
been
tested
and
we
feel
what
we've
got
now
is
the
right
proportion
in
terms
of
glazing
and
and
solid,
solid
banding.
A
You
for
that
explanation,
Dave
moving
on
Council
wall
show
please.
B
Thanks
yeah,
it's
it's
actually
to
be
honest,
it's
been,
it
was
the
same
point
since
councilor
Carlos
made
it's
been
covered
in
some
detail,
but
just
I
mean
there's
an
awful
lot
of
good
in
this,
and
it's
it's.
It
is
just
the
it's
just.
What
the
out
turn
look
of
the
building
will
look
like
I
think
the
hexagon
shape
is,
is
I,
agree,
it's
a
good
pure
shape,
and
it
would
be
a
landmark
building
and
it's
just
the
combination
of
the
materials,
the
Terracotta
materials.
B
And
what
will
the
glazing
look
like
in
more
detail.
I
think
is
what
we
need
to
see,
but
I
do
take
your
point
about
the
sill
height
and
about
not
looking
up
at
the
sky
from
various
aspects
and
then
but
then
not
having
deeper
windows,
so
you've
seen
people's
backs
of
TVs
and
things
I
think
that's.
That
is
a
good
architectural
Foundation,
I
think
for
the
start
of
a
building,
but
just
to
say
just
to
wrap
up
chair
I,
think
on
the
in
terms
of
its
it.
Its
approach
to
carbon
and
sustainability.
A
Thank
you,
Neil.
Any
more
questions.
I
haven't
seen
any
hands.
Perhaps
I've
missed
them.
Karen.
Please.
F
Thank
you,
Chan
I'd,
just
like
to
ask
what
safety
elements
are
Incorporated,
especially
within
the
residential
property
and
I,
wouldn't
like
to
think
that
somebody
was
on
one
of
those
really
high
tall
residential
areas
couldn't
escape
if
there
was
a
fire
in
there,
so
I'm
just
wondering
what
circuit
aspects
of
being
Incorporated
and
whether
or
not
you've
been
in
touch
with
West
Yorkshire
Fire
Authority
to
check
that
anything
would
be
safe,
especially
for
families
and
young
children.
N
Hi,
it's
Oliver
here,
development
director
at
McLaren,
yeah,
very
good
point
and
and
five
for
us
is
especially
on
a
tall
tower
like
this
is
extremely
important
for
us.
So
to
answer
a
question,
we've
got
a
fire
engineer
on
board
to
the
fire
engineer
from
pretty
much
the
concept
design
has
been
feeding
in
to
ensure
that
the
safety
of
residence
is
Paramount.
N
Following
this
meeting,
we've
already
set
up
a
meeting
with
the
HSC,
particularly
around
and
fire
safety,
and
as
per
our
previous
schemes,
we
will
sit
down
with
the
fire
brigade
as
well
to
make
sure
that
they're
fully
happy
with
it.
But
at
the
moment
we
are
as
well
as
sustainability.
Fire
is
very
much
the
the
Forefront
of
our
concept
scheme,
foreign.
J
Two
or
three
three
points:
councilor,
green
and
I-
were
standing
on
the
Wellington
Street
Frontier.
What's
there
at
the
moment,
shouting
at
each
other,
because
they're
nice,
the
traffic
and,
notwithstanding
your
colonnaded
arcade,
we
did
think
that
it
might
be
useful
to
have
a
conversation
with
perhaps
Metro
and
the
city
council
about
that
whole
of
that
Frontage
area,
because
it's
a
fairly
unpleasant
environment
at
the
moment
and
I
think
we
were
of
the
opinion.
J
If
you
perhaps
move
the
Footwear
back,
the
the
roadside
Footwear
back
and
increase
the
planting,
it
might
actually
produce
a
nicer
environment
for
people
who
are
walking
up
and
down
so
I'd
like
you
to
have
a
comment
on
that
or
have
a
think
about
it.
J
Can
you
just
tell
me
actually
how
much
space
will
there
be
between
buildings,
A
and
B?
We
only
say
that
because
again
on
site
today,
the
space
between
the
existing
buildings
is
a
bit
narrower
and
unpleasant.
Quite
frankly,
and
so
I
think
a
wider
space
might
be
more
appropriate.
J
The
other
one
is
is
there's
a
reference
to
on
your
assigned
to
electric
heating
via
sustainable
sources.
I
think
the
question
we
might
ask
is
not
so
much:
where
does
the
electricity
come
from,
but
these
days
about?
How
much
do
you
use
and
so
I
think
we'd
be
interested
to
know
just
how
energy
efficient
the
flats
will
be
with
regard
to
the
the
ongoing
increasing
price
of
fuel
and
our
Desiring
to
to
minimize
or
get
down
to
nothing
power
use.
J
C
Nuclear
in
terms
of
the
the
front
of
Wellington,
Street
I
think
it's
important
that
we
do
maintain
the
building
lines
along
the
historic
Wellington
Street
and
therefore
the
actual
building
front
facade
does
sit
in
line
with
I
guess
the
character
of
Wellington
Suite,
but
making
a
point
about
the
the
Landscaping.
We've
got
a
very
double
height,
generous
Colonnade,
on
the
ground
floor
of
the
building
which
pushes
that
ground
floor
glazing
back
by
six
meters
hit
by
six
meters.
So
there's
an
additional
six
meters
of
public
well
and
it's
covered
space
as
well.
C
There
is
opportunities,
obviously,
for
that,
for
that
Colonnade
to
be
landscaped,
you
know,
and-
and
there
may
be
opportunities
where
people
may
even
want
to
sit
out
onto
that
because
of
the
south
facing
aspect
to
it.
But
we
feel,
like
you
know,
that
that
allows
for
the
breathing
space
on
the
ground
floor
and
having
that
covered
Colonnade
gives
it
a
certain
Civic
presence
onto
Wellington
Street
as
well.
C
The
the
gap
between
the
buildings
is
is
a
daily
for
bringing
Cycles
into
into
the
development,
so
in
in
respect,
you've
got
the
cause
of
the
buildings
being
back
to
back.
There
is
a
six
music
gap
between
between
the
buildings
which
allows
for
that
sort
of
shaft
of
light,
but,
more
importantly,
it's
a
way
of
cycling
in
and
out
of
the
building.
C
These
buildings
have
been
shaped
very
much
around
the
huge
constraints
in
terms
of
distances
between
buildings,
also
between
you
know,
maintaining
copper
gate
as
an
access
into
the
development.
So
there's
been
a
lot
of
sort
of
tweaking
and
churning
in
terms
of
the
shapes
of
these
buildings
to
get
them
to
work
efficiently.
M
I
think
this,
the
the
plan
on
screen
shows
it
quite
well
so
I
think
in
you
know
just
to
add
to
what
Dave
said
on
on
the
Frontage
I
think
you,
you
probably
put
into
the
additional
footway
as
well,
which
is
immediately
north
of
the
road,
so
I
mean
at
the
moment
on
the
diagram
on
the
screen.
We
were
actually
suggesting
that
people,
you
know,
walk
through
that
generous
Colonnade
rather
than
along
the
road.
M
So
if
there
is
an
opportunity
to
you
know
change
change
that
that
footpath
to
additional
landscape,
you
know
that
could
be
something
we
can
explore
if
it's,
if
it's
feasible
and
then
yeah
I
think
that
they've
covered
the
gaps
between
the
building
is
is
proposed
to
be
six
knees.
I
think
at
the
moment
the
existing
Gap
is
very
narrow,
I
think
it's
two
meters.
We
measured
it
out.
M
So
it's
three
times
the
width
of
that
and,
as
dad
said,
you
know
that
that
you
know
very
much
serves
as
a
route
to
the
basement
and
we
could
probably
answer
some
on
electricity
as
well
think
together.
Only
but
I
think
you
know,
in
terms
of
you
know,
making
sure
that
all
the
systems
are
very
energy
efficient
is
is
at
the
Forefront,
so
it's
fully
electric.
M
Obviously
the
the
grid
is
on.
You
know
currently
and
continually
being
decarbonized.
So
you
know,
electricity
is
much
Greener
and
you
know
is
based
on
a
lot
more
Renewables
than
it
used
to
be
historically
and
in
terms
of
the
ventilation
system.
M
Whilst
there
is
ability
to
open
the
windows,
there
is
within
each
apartment,
heat
recovery
as
well,
so
you
know
it's
very,
very
efficient
to
to
kind
of
run
and
and
he
these
these
apartments.
So
then
there's
anything
you
want
to
add
Ollie.
N
It's
just
this
is
this
is
going
to
be
a
build
Trend
scheme.
This
can
be
managed,
and
obviously
we
know
at
the
moment
there's
a
cost
of
living
crisis.
Dare
I
say
at
the
moment
so
far
residents,
you
know,
saving
their
money
and
making
sure
buildings
as
efficient
as
possible
is
is
Paramount,
so
you
know
we'll
very
much
invest
in
in
smart
technology
and
this
is
going
to
be
managed
professionally
on
site.
J
Can
I
just?
Can
we
just
explore
how
efficient
I
know
you
talk
about
the
the
the
grid
being
decarbonized,
but
it
if
you're
still
using
a
lot
of
electricity?
That's
not
much
benefit
to
people
who
live
there.
J
I
know
we
constantly
talk
about
effectively
costing
nothing
to
run
these
places.
Now
that
might
be
a
an
aspiration
too
far,
but
I
think
well.
I
won't
ask
you
to
answer
the
question
now,
but
I
think
when
you
come
back
with
the
full
planning
permission,
I
think
we'll
want
to
know
exactly
how
energy
efficient
these
flats
are,
and
in
particular,
what
steps
you
take
in
to
ensure
that
they're
future
proof.
A
G
Which
I
didn't
think
I
would
be
so
quick.
The
the
improvements
to
the
the
highway,
particularly
on
Wellington
Street
and
the
cycle,
where
are
much
needed
and
other
members
have
talked
about
that
so
I
guess
you'll
come
back
with
detail
about
the
full
application.
G
But
my
real
comment
is
about
the
residential
building
and
the
what
you
would
technically,
because
private
outdoor
space,
all
the
old-fashioned
balcony,
are
there
any
and
where
they
are
I'm
sure
you
don't
want
to
hear
my
friend's
story
of
three
years
ago
and
we
couldn't
mix
because
you've
all
heard
it
before.
But
if
you
haven't,
you
can
ask
her
later.
But
ultimately,
you
know
a
very
small
balcony.
G
Nine
floors
up
can
actually
be
a
lifesaver
if
you're
locked
down
for
six
months
or
so
shielding
I
hope
we
never
go
back
to
that.
But
you've
got
to
Future
proof
these
things,
foreign.
M
I
mean
we,
we
appreciate
the
you
know
the
argument
and
the
benefit
of
balconies
I
think
you
know
was
certainly
something
we
we
discussed
very
early
on.
You
know
when
we
were
kind
of
you
know
bringing
you
know
the
brief
together
for
this
scheme.
I
think
you
know
from
you
know
kind
of
collective
experience.
They
can
sometimes
be
empty
underutilized,
particularly
into
all
the
buildings.
I
think
you
know,
you
know
people
fearful
of
heights.
M
M
G
I'm
about
brief,
with
your
private
outdoor
space
is
fine
if
you
can
mix,
but
when
we're
not
able
to
mix
our
only
mixing
sixes
or
in
tears
or
whatever
I
might
think
about
next
time
around.
That
won't
necessarily
be
a
big
help
to
people
who
are
locked
down
or
shielding
or
anything
else.
A
Look
at
this
common
and
certainly
the
applicants
can
give
consideration
to
that
before
they
come
back.
Caroline
councilman,
please.
D
Thank
you
chair
as
I
was
saying
when
I
was
looking
at
the
model
over
there,
I
I
do
think
the
the
shape
the
proportion,
the
massing
and
the
way
the
buildings
look
at
each
other
work.
Well
for
me,
I
think
it's
a
good
structure
for
a
city
and
I
do
like
the
Terracotta
Finnish
and
the
shading
as
it
goes
up.
My
thoughts
about
the
Residential
Building
mirror.
D
Those
of
my
colleagues,
I,
must
say,
I
think
the
proportion
of
it
is
absolutely
fine
and,
as
I
was
saying
to
you
privately
on
the
cgis,
it
doesn't
seem
to
work,
but
looking
at
the
material,
it
might
look
different
when
it
in
in
reality
the
first
observation
I'd
make
about
that
cladding
or
whatever
you
call
it
is
that
the
Terracotta
cladding,
for
example,
on
page
19,
is
textured
in
bigger
segments
and
therefore
more
perceptible
from
the
distance
that
the
supposed
camera
is
on
here,
whereas
the
white
one,
it
looks
a
bit
more
like
corrugated
iron,
because
the
sections
are
smaller
and
I
think
we
need
to
think
about
how
it's
going
to
look
from
a
distance.
D
My
other
thought
was
when
I
looked
at
the
materials
if
they
were
glazed
even
more
highly
until
they
were
shiny.
Would
that
not
give
it
a
more
reflective,
modern
feel
because
I
I
share
The
View
with
my
colleagues
that
this
looks
it
looks
as
if
it
needs
more
glazing
somewhere.
It
doesn't
look
modern
enough
somehow
that
the
proportion
is
absolutely
fine
but
I'm
sure
you'll
see
what
I
mean
if
you
look
at
slide,
19
that
that
that
particularly
the
bottom
base,
where
there's
a
lot
of
that
white
cladding,
does
look
like
corrugated
iron.
D
From
from
this
CGI
and
I.
Think
you
need
to
think
about
how
that
works
from
a
distance.
I
also
feel
that
nowadays
building
any
sort
of
apartment
or
flat
without
a
balconies
backward
looking
I
think
you
should
give
some
thought
to
that.
I'm.
Looking
at
the
balustrades
across
the
top
of
the
patches
of
cladding
on
the
on
the
residential
and
wondering
if
that
couldn't
be
a
sort
of
divided,
walkway
or
somewhere,
that
people
could
come
out
of
their
apartment
and
be
in
the
fresh
air.
C
I
think
I
think
with
the
a
good
point
you
made
about
the
reflectivity.
You
know
we
still
need
to
test
the
the
sort
of
the
profile
of
that
terracotta.
So
you
know,
and
as
I
said
earlier,
we
will
do
that
and
we'll
test
it
from
a
number
of
you
know
distances
to
to
sort
of
see.
When
do
you
start
to
see
it
I
guess?
C
The
other
thing
is
that
each
of
those
each
of
those
sort
of
profiles
will
create
Shadows
shadows,
will
slightly
give
it
a
slightly
different
variation
and
that
that
that's
what
usually
happens-
and
maybe
maybe
a
good
thing
to
show
some
other
buildings
where
we
do
have
cladding
like
this,
so
you
can
actually
see
the
real
impact
of
it.
I
mean
that's
important.
C
We
in
terms
of
glazing
the
way
to
have
a
cottage
Glazier.
It's
it's
fired,
so
it
has
a
sort
of
Sheen
to
it.
We
want
to
give
it
a
you
want
to
give
it
a
Sheen
rather
than
a
glossiness
to
it.
If
that's
important
go
to
aspect,
also
making
it
more
glossy
or
making
more
more
reflective
is
firing
it
again
and
again,
you
know
as
many
times
as
we
fire
it.
This
has
an
impact
on
the
in
on
this
sort
of
embodied
carbon
on
the
building
as
well.
So
we
want
it,
we
absolutely
right.
C
We
want
to
make
it
reflective,
but
we
want
to
get
the
right
level
of
reflectivity
and
doesn't
it
doesn't
feel
too
too
glossy,
but
more
of
a
sophisticated
Sheen
and
and
with
with
balconies
I,
think
we
especially
with
tall
buildings
it's
they
are.
They
are
very
much
underutilized,
they're,
very
difficult
and
I
think
being
a
very
windy
City
compared
to
many
of
the
Cities.
It's
also
a
real
danger
of
having
these
balconies
and
what
they
end
up
becoming
then
are
Winter
Gardens.
C
They
end
up
having
been
being
closed
as
part
of
the
facade
in
order
to
to
manage
to
manage
wind
and
so
and
so
in
some
way,
what
we
want
to
do
is
be
able
to
have
these
windows.
I
can
open
above
that
safety
level
above
11
at
a
safety
level
and
allow
people
to
have
a
good
level
of
natural
ventilation
into
their
into
the
apartments,
but
but
again
being
a
bill
to
rent
model.
C
It
means
that
the
level
of
amenities
that
is
provided
here
compared
to
a
conventional
residential,
Market
sale
building
is
far
far
greater
I.
Think
is
it
about
three
three
square
meters
yeah
up
to
a
three
to
yeah,
yeah,
so
yeah
just
about
three
square
meters
of
immunity
per
per
apartment,
whereas
in
residential
you
get
a
reception,
a
desk
and
then
a
lift
Lobby.
This
has
got
plenty
of
amenities
where
people
can
work
spend
time
together,
there's
also
spaces
where
they
can
be
alone
and
also
spaces
where
they
can
socialize
and
interact.
C
A
Thank
you,
Dave
can
I
bring
in
Karen
again.
Please.
F
Thank
you,
chair
I,
do
admire
all
the
health
and
well-being
facilities
which
are
Incorporated
within
the
plans,
but
I
think
that
one
thing
that's
missing
is
a
play
area
for
young
children
and
I.
Don't
think,
there's
enough
of
that
Within
the
development
to
accommodate
for
the
number
of
children,
young
people
that
might
be
living
in
those
apartments,
so
I
just
wonder
if
it
was
anything
that
you
could
maybe
add
or
because,
like
because
the
city
center
always
likes
playing
facilities
for
young
children.
So
I
would
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
M
It's
certainly
something
we
can.
We
can
take
away
in
an
earlier
iteration.
We
had
some
small
level
of
kind
of
informal
play
actually
with
within
that
square.
We've
kind
of
redesigned
it
since
around
the
kind
of
servicing
that
strategy,
but
I,
think
it's
certainly
something
we'll
take
away
and
see
if
we
can
get
some
kind
of
small
level
of
of
play,
which
is
probably
appropriate
to
you
know
the
the
size
of
the
square
and
and
the
city
center
location.
So
yeah
good
point
thanks
for
for
that.
A
Thank
you,
Adam
fine
replacement
for
Council
gas
weight,
I'm
sure
she
would
have
raised
that
question
so
well
then,
moving
on
Peter,
please.
H
Thanks
chair
and
I
was
just
coming
back
to
the
same
point
around
the
design
of
the
Residential
Building,
because
I
think
that
was
really
useful
to
give
some
context
around
yeah.
Absolutely
that
point
around
making
sure
the
form
is
able
to
be
you're
able
to
see
that
hexagon
shape
from
wherever
you
are.
H
That's
really
really
useful
and
it's
useful
to
understand
that
bit
around
the
cells
I'm,
just
still
not
sure
about
it
and
I
want
to
share
whether
it
would
be
possible
to
get
a
comment
from
the
design
officer
around
what
you
think,
because
I
know
Steven's,
never
Steven's.
Never
shy
of
letting
me
know
when
I'm
wrong
or
when
I
haven't
considered
it,
but
I
think
that'll
be
really
useful
input
to
find
out
whether
I'm
barking
up
the
wrong
tree
on
this
foreign.
K
This
is
a
difficult
one,
because
I
hear
and
fully
understand
what
members
are
saying,
particularly
about
the
residential
units,
but
I
have
to
acknowledge
that
the
applicants
have
worked
hard
and
it's
one
of
those
awful
ones
as
I
keep
telling
my
colleagues
in
the
service
and
I'm,
not
paraphrasing
Star
Wars,
he's
been
around
in
architecture
for
a
lot
longer.
You
look
for
certainty,
do
or
do
not.
K
If
you
do
it
halfway,
it's
gonna
be
a
mess,
so
you're
left
with
this
White
Tower,
which
is
classic
modernism.
It
is
classic
modernism.
It's
going
to
end
up
nicknamed
the
Wingnut.
Of
course
you
know
the
note
in
a
hexagon,
but
you
can't
or
fortunately
really
one
of
the
things
of
modernism
is
the
machine.
Aesthetic.
K
K
You
know
in
the
1930s,
the
Delaware
Pavilion
and
others
it
was
the
color.
We
can
look
at
changing
color
and
varying
things
like
that
here.
What
I
have
to
say
the
applicants
are
right
above
eight
stories.
A
balcony
is
dangerous,
in
my
mind,
never
mind
putting
it.
You
know
I,
wouldn't
step
out
on
a
balcony.
K
There's
no
messing
about
with
it.
That
I
will
say
that
a
strict
modernist
would
not
have
rounded
the
corners
that
will
soften
it
tremendously
it
will
visually
softener
and
a
split
model.
This
would
you
know
you
get
a
member
of
the
core
Beauty
in
society.
Goldman,
you
know
rounding
the
corners.
What
wasn't
you
know
but
they've?
You
know
it
says
near
and
positive,
I
think
as
we
can
and
if
you're
minded
to
support
it
when
it
comes
back
I
think,
ultimately
it
will
be
I.
Think
you're.
Right
though
I'll
give
in
to
the
rightness.
K
K
A
To
keep
you
there
for
a
minute,
I
was
about
to
ask
him
to
come
in
and
comment
as
well,
but
thank
you
for
doing
that.
Peter.
It
shows
you
that
we
popped
on
the
same
lines
that
we
we
did
need
an
expert
opinion
and
the
master
class.
As
usual
from
Stephen
I
am
concerned,
the
building
I'm
not
so
concerned
about
the
coloration
that
can
be
sorted
out
one
way
or
the
other
and
at
the
moment
I
quite
like
the
way.
A
I
actually
just
stand
there
more,
but
that's
just
a
difference
of
opinion
and
easily
altered,
but
that
if,
if
we
go
back
our
Lewis,
please
to
slide
19.
foreign.
A
The
Residential
Building
there
doesn't
seem
to
be
enough
glazing,
as
unless
cancer
grown
said
it
does
give
the
distinct
impression
impression.
There
is
corrugated
iron
and
iron
at
the
bottom,
so
I
I
get
a
feeling
and
I'm,
not
an
architect,
but
I
I'll
value
your
opinion,
but
maybe
we
need
to
do
more
work,
ground
floor
level.
K
Thank
you,
Chad
I'll,
give
you
an
opinion,
you're,
absolutely
right
and
the
same
way
we
can
take
the
ground
floor.
We
can
do
something
where
there's
lots
of
things
you
could
do
with
the
ground
floor
turn
it
into
glazing
with
columns,
basically,
in
architectural
terms,
a
solid
void
ratio.
The
solid
ratio
is
far
too
high,
but
we
can
architecturally
do
fiddling
with
the
bottom.
Isn't
messing
the
whole
thing
up
you
with
me,
so
we
can
take
it
back
with
the
applicants.
K
The
applicants
will
no
doubt
have
heard
your
comments
and
we'll
see
what
we
can
come
up
with.
Thank.
A
You
chair,
thank
you
for
those
comments.
I,
don't
ask
you
to
respond
just
to
take
on
board.
You
will
remember
when
we
had
Beulah
Council
groom
Peter
on
here.
He
used
to
say
very
often
that
the
higher
the
building
goes,
the
better
quality.
We
expect
our
ground
floor
level.
So
maybe
that's
something
to
consider
wise
word
then
wise
words
then,
are
necessarily
as
wise
word
now.
Well,
would
you
not
agree
Stephen
keep
him
on
the
spot.
A
B
Thanks
the
I've
got
I've
got
to
say
your
comments
about
Delaware
Pavilion
and
that
I
never
actually
Associated
this.
This
element
with
the
Delaware
Pavilion,
if
anybody's
been
there
but
I
support
cause
the
same,
but
I
think
that
there
is
an
issue
with
the
color
and
there's.
Certainly
an
issue
with
the
with
the
bottom
of
the
building
being
General
I've
got
to
say,
I'll
welcome.
B
What's
there,
the
office
building
looks
really
good
as
it
changes
as
it
goes
up
and
now
I
think
that
will
be
rather
attractive.
B
I
think
you've
still
got
some
work
to
do,
but,
as
I
say,
with
materials
on
on
the
on
the
housing
part
of
the
development,
I
think
we
need
to
see
more
of
that
and
I
think
what
would
be
helpful
instead
of
having
these
sort
of
images,
if
we
can
have
a
walk
through
or
something
like
that,
if
you
could
manage
to
to
do
that
because
I
think
that
would
give
us
a
better
impression
overall,
but
generally
speaking
and
I'm
supposed
to.
I
Thank
you
Joe.
It
must
be
quite
frustrating
for
the
marketing
department
who
will
be
looking
to
come
up
with
a
really
funky
name
for
this
development
spending.
Thousands
and,
of
course,
Mr
Valley's,
just
named
it
the
wing
nuts,
and
that
is
absolutely
going
to
be
what
it's
going
to
be
refer
to
for
time
immemorial.
You
could
save
some
money
there.
That
is
now
what
we're
all
going
to
refer
to
and
I
have
to
say,
I
think
the
Wingnut
will
be
an
ace
addition
to
the
lead.
I
Skyline
I
I,
like
it
very,
very
much
I.
Think
personally,
I'm
not
concerned
about
the
color
I
think
as
you
she
rightly
say,
as
you
approach
you'll,
get
that
texture
and
feel
I
absolutely
agree
with
councilor
Guru
in
the
Bottom's
awful
and
certainly
needs
opening
up.
Far
more
but
I
think
it's
a
great
development
I'm
delighted
to
see
it's
coming
along
and
long,
we'll
leave
the
wing
knot.
A
We've
had
a
succession
and
new
words
of
the
Wingnuts
and
the
Delaware
Pavilion.
We
haven't
got
a
clue
what
that
means.
Stephen
we
just
had
a
conversation
at
the
top.
Could
you
explain
it
to
us?
Please:
okay,.
K
Sorry
because
I
I
think
I
was
going
to
say
counselor
the
in
architectural
terms.
This
has
a
very
strong
whiff
of
Art
Deco
about
it,
particularly
the
offices
and
the
Della
world
is
the
well-known
art,
art
deco,
stroke
modernist,
and
it
is
pitch
white
Markum.
If
I
think
I'm
right.
I
can't
remember
myself.
B
A
J
I
think
we're
quite
happy
with
the
principle
of
a
building
of
this
size
and
and
shape
I
suppose,
but
we'd
like
to
get
it
just
right,
because
it
is
a
key
building
on
the
entrance
into
the
city.
So
we
need
we
need
to
get
it
right,
so
that
needs
a
bit
of
a
tweak
and
I.
Think
probably
you
you
you're
about
there
with
the
the
stuff
onto
Wellington,
Street
I
would
raise,
though,
and
I
will
continue
to
raise
it.
J
You
spent
the
first
half
of
the
presentation
telling
us
how
fantastic
the
green
space
is,
but
actually,
if
we're
brutally
honest,
there's
almost
no
green
space
whatsoever.
If
you
have
400
plus
apartments
in
this,
this
block
we're
talking
about
600,
plus
people
and
I
use
and
I,
say
this
every
time.
J
If
it
was
a
nice
hot,
sunny
July
day,
where
would
you
go
and
it
seems
to
me
not
unreasonable
that
the
people
who
live
in
that
block
should
be
able
to
go
and
sit
out
somewhere
far
enough
away
from
the
the
ruler
of
the
inner
Ring
Road
to
be
comfortable
and
I.
Suppose
the
same
is
true
for
the
people
who
work
in
the
office.
So
at
lunchtime
you
might
want
to
take
your
sandwiches
outside
okay.
They
do
have
a
few
balconies,
but
I
do
think
that
the
green
space
is
inadequate.
J
I
think
you
need
to
look
at
the
layout
the
site
again
to
see
if
you
can
get
more
on
there,
because,
quite
frankly,
in
a
modern
with
a
modern
twist,
it's
it's
really
not.
There
really
isn't
enough
Green
Space
on
that
site
for
the
the
amount
of
development
you
put
in
in
there
and
I
think
we've
got
to
accept
that
we
need
that
sort
of
Green
Space
within
the
city
center.
So
that's
my
big
concern
about
the
hall
saying
check.
A
F
Thank
you.
Yes,
just
to
Echo
what
council
Campbell
said,
they're
they're
about
the
Green
Space
to
make
sure
we
maximize
it,
make
it
that
it
is
maximized
and
made
to
work
as
well
as
possible,
really
pleased
to
see
the
active
travel
measures
encouraging
and
priorities
like
prioritizing
cyclists
and
pedestrians,
and
that
cars
will
be
shoved
well
out
of
sight,
also
really
appreciate
the
use
of
the
Terracotta
mirroring
what
Leeds
has
done
for
such
a
long
time.
Thank
you.
A
J
You
Colin
sorry
Chad,
just
remembered
something
else
you
mentioned.
This
is
a
a
built
to.
Let
I
would
just
remind
you
that
we
have
a
policy
in
relation
to
affordable
housing
and
I'd
love
you
to
take
that
into
account
before
you
come
back
with
a
full
application.
G
Just
just
very
quickly
because
Council
Renshaw
mentioned
it
about
the
park,
I
think
you
should
do
think
about
that,
because
you've
actually
got
the
two
and
three
bedrooms
right
here.
Looking
at
it,
but
you
haven't,
got
the
immunity
for
the
park
and
although
we're
getting
the
bee's
knees,
Park
I
believe
at
some
point
in
time
it's
I'm
about
to
believe
a
long
way
away
across
the
city
center.
So
you
need
to
look
at
the
park
in
with
the
green
space.
A
Kill
all
useful
comments
for
developers
to
take
on
board
can
we
move
on
then
we
have
a
couple
of
questions.
If
we
move
on
to
item
seven
there's
two
questions
that
planning
officers
would
like
us
to
answer
and
the
first
one
is
subject
to
further
analysis
of
key
viewers.
Do
members
support
the
proposed
massing
and
design
of
the
building?
I?
Think
that's
a
general!
Yes!
Isn't
it
hell?
Yes,
okay
and
the
next
one.
Do
members
consider
that
the
emerging
approach
to
Landscaping
is
acceptable?
A
A
They've
had
what
we
said
and
when
we
have
a
planning
application,
we'll
consider
it
very
carefully
and
it
might
be
useful
to
to
know
there
are
other
developments
that
will
be
constructed
in
that
area
and
they
will
also
provide
public
open
space
and
it
might
be
worth
looking
at
the
whole
so
that
we
we
get
the
whole
picture
added
in
one
segment
of
it.
David
is
nodding
so
I'm
sure
that
will
happen.
Yeah.
C
C
You
know
so
I
think
I
think
it's
important
that
we
consider
the
entire
sort
of
context
and
there
are
parks
nearby
so
again
making
sure
that
people
have
a
variety
of
choices
to
to
sort
of
enjoy,
and
that
is
part
of
an
urban
grain
in
the
city
center
living
aspect,
but
you
know,
take
we'll
take
it
away
and
we'll,
obviously
you
know
just
more
work
to
be
done
in
developmental
Landscaping.
A
You
Dave
yeah
exactly
what
I
thought
would
be
it'd
be
good
to
see
the
whole
picture
where
and
it
is
public
open
space.
None
of
it
is
restricted,
so
people
can
move
around.
Okay,
then
I
think
we've
got
sort
of
human.
F
Thank
you
Chuck.
You,
you
I'd
just
like
to
comment
on
what
you've
said
about
Urban
spaces
within
the
city
sensor,
and
if
there
are
other
developments
going
to
be
applying
within
the
city
center,
then
surely
we
need
to
ensure
that
within
this
one
is
for
a
starter,
there's
going
to
be
adequate
play
areas
for
the
families
that
are
rare
because
we'll
need
adequate
play
areas,
but
then
the
other
ones
as
well.
D
F
A
I
know
you've
got
you've,
got
teenagers,
yes,
I
know
that
was
very
useful
and
I
think
there's
a
a
lot
of
thoughts
there
too
for
the
developers
to
take
back.
So
thank
you
for
that
presentation.
It
was
an
excellent
presentation
and
I
think
all
the
the
model
was
very
useful.
Members
did
enjoy
it
and
walked
around
and
they
give
us
a
sense
of
how
I
fitted
in
and
I
have
to
say.
First
presentation
you
presented
in
my
opinion
anyway
and
I
can't
speak
for
everybody.
An
excellent
scheme.
A
I
was
really
I,
was
really
very
pleased
when
I
had
my
chairs
briefs
some
weeks
ago,
when
I
saw
it,
but
there
are,
you
know,
tweaks
here
and
there
and
I'm
sure
you're,
aware
of
them
as
we
are,
and
we
look
forward
to
coming
back
in
near
to
that
form
only
much
improved
and
do
please
take
on
board
the
idea
of
public
open
space,
that's
available
for
children
and
some
children
and
young
people
that
there
are
facilities
available
available
that
they
can
use
it'd,
be
very
useful
for
the
families
and
it
is
going
to
be
10
three
bedrooms.
A
A
Thank
you.
It
only
reminds
me
to
tell
you
that
the
next
meeting
will
be
on
Thursday,
the
3rd
of
November
I.
Hope
to
see
you
all
then
and
I
hope
substitutes
have
enjoyed
it
I'm
sure
you
built
out
actually.