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A
It's
a
great
honour
for
me
to
be
the
the
new
chair
of
this
committee
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
the
work
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
getting
to
know
you
all
better
and
your
contributions
and
the
nature
of
your
thinking.
So
thank
you
very
much
indeed,
although
I
do
want
to
acknowledge
that
counselor
richie,
who
previously
chaired
the
panel,
was
an
exceptionally
good
chair.
So
I
realize
I've
got
big
shoes
to
step
into
so
please
be
patient.
A
So
welcome
to
the
plans
panel.
I
think
you
all
know.
My
name
is
councillor
caroline
gruen
and
I
will
be
chairing
today's
meeting.
A
A
E
Thank
you
good
afternoon,
council
gore
and
gore
almost
from
beeson
holby
quad.
Thank
you.
F
Good
afternoon,
councillor
dawn
collins
from
warswithward.
Today,
I'm
substituting
for
councillor
barry
anderson.
I
Hello,
david
newbury,
I'm
the
lead
planning
officer
for
the
panel.
D
A
Thank
you
toby,
so
over
to
agenda
item,
one
debbie.
C
Sorry,
chair
under
agenda
item
one:
there
are
no
appeals
against
the
refusal
of
inspection
of
documents
under
a
gender
item.
Two,
there
are
no
items
which
require
the
exclusion
of
the
press
and
the
public
gender
item.
Three.
There
are
no
late
items
of
business,
a
gender
item.
Four.
Could
I
ask
members
to
declare
any
disclosable
pecuniary
interests.
C
A
A
Do
members
accept
these
minutes
as
a
true
and
correct
record
under
the
circumstances,
I'll
assume,
correct
and
less
indicated
otherwise,
and
I
don't
see
any
indications,
so
we
can
proceed
straight
to
our
main
agenda
item.
Oh
sorry,
I
haven't
I
haven't
raised
matters
arising.
Are
there
any
matters
arising
from
the
minutes?
Please,
councillor,
nash,.
B
Yes,
on
page
seven
minute
80,
these
are
the
steps
leading
up
to
saint
mary's
and
is
the
council
going
to
adopt
these
steps?
I
see
them
as
a
feature
in
the
area
like
the
199
at
whitby.
I
Yes,
thank
you
very
much.
We've
we've
actually
got
some
news
on
this
today
and
that's
that
the
the
steps
are.
I
So
the
public
rights
away
team
who
created
have
advised
that
they
can
create
a
a
public
path
creation
order
under
section
26
of
the
highways
act.
It's
quite
lengthy
process
apparently
and
as
it
includes
consultation
and
they
say
they've
advised
that
they
would
look
to
trigger
such
an
order
if
the
mount
mary's
scheme
was
implemented.
I
Now
I
assume
I
haven't
spoken
to
them
about
this,
but
I
assume
that's
the
case,
because
at
the
moment
the
steps
are
closed
off
at
the
top
end,
so
they
don't
actually
lead
anywhere.
So
if
they're
opened
up
and
I'm
assuming
that's,
why
they're
saying
that
they
would
create
such
an
order
that
would
bring
it
create
a
puppet
right
away
on
definitive
map
and
after
that
they
would
become
publicly
maintainable.
B
Yes,
I
have
the
next
item
on
84..
It
was
about
the
potential
flooding
at
cullingham.
Have
we
any
further
news
on
this?
Please.
A
H
Thank
you
chair
before
I
start
I'll.
Just
give
you
a
couple
of
updates.
Since
the
publication
of
the
report.
An
additional
letter
of
objection
has
been
received
I'll
be
from
a
resident
who
has
previously
commented.
H
The
letter
raised
concerns
regarding
greenbelt
ham,
lack
of
very
special
circumstances
and
traffic
impacts.
These
issues
have
already
been
covered
within
the
report
and
then,
in
addition
to
clarifying
supplement
paragraph
57
of
a
report,
some
financial
information
relating
to
the
farming
enterprise
has
previously
been
submitted
to
the
council's
agriculture
agricultural
surveyor
back
in
2018
he's
in
attendance
today.
If
you
want
to
ask
him
any
specific
questions,
however,
this
information
doesn't
alter
our
overall
conclusions
on
the
proposals.
H
So
in
terms
of
the
proposal
in
front
of
us
next
slide,
please
tell
me
yeah
and
next
slide
if
you
want
so
it
relates
to
the
construction
of
a
new
four-bedroom
detached
property
for
a
to
be
used
by
a
rural
worker.
H
The
property
will
be
constructed
of
stone
with
a
pan
tile
roof,
and
if
you
just
look
at
that
plan
there,
the
red
line
highlights
the
proposed
curtailage
of
the
dwelling,
the
dwellings
within
that
red
line
with
the
black
outline
there.
So
you
can
see
it's
set
back
slightly
from
triple-a,
which
runs
to
the
south
of
the
site.
That
building
to
to
the
west
is
a
current
agricultural
building,
and
then
the
land
outlined
in
blue
is
owned
by
the
applicant
and
that's
currently
arable
farmland
and
next
slide.
H
H
It's
got
a
large
detached
sorry
attached
garage
to
the
side
and,
as
you
can
see
from
the
from
the
plans,
the
south
elevation,
which
is
to
the
front,
has
got
some
solar
panels
on
the
on
the
front,
roof
slope
and
next
slide.
Please
tell
me
so
for
further
context
here.
The
red
dot
highlights
the
position
of
the
proposed
dwelling
with
the
agricultural
building
to
to
the
west,
and
you
can
see
that
it
sits
to
the
to
the
western
side.
H
Some
200
250
meters
from
the
built
edge
of
the
village
of
of
linton,
the
the
surrounding
fields,
are
all
arable
in
nature
as
well.
It
lies
within
land
defined
as
greenbelt
in
a
special
landscape
area.
Can
we
just
have
the
next
slide?
Please
tell
me,
and
then
this
is
further
context
here.
H
So
if
you
look
towards
the
the
bottom
right
hand,
corner
of
that
plan,
there's
a
purple
dot
where
it
says
walt
valley
stoves
and
that's
where
the
applicant
currently
resides
in
the
farmhouse
there
and
the
the
farm,
roughly
200
acres
of
land
around
the
column
area,
as
well
as
the
previous
site,
with
the
blue
edge
that
I've
shown
you
before
and
that's
that's
roughly
a
a
five
to
six
minute
card,
you're
only
betw
between
those
two
locations.
H
Next
slide,
please
tell
me
so
this
is
looking
from
the
access
of
the
site
to
work
towards
where
the
proposed
dwelling
would
be
next
slide.
Please.
H
This
is
looking
eastwards
towards
the
village
of
lincoln,
so
you
can
see
some
some
dwellings
in
the
distance
there
next
slide,
please
this
is
looking
northwards,
so
it
shows
how
open
the
farmland
is
around
there
next
slide.
Please
tell
me-
and
this
is
a
better
look
at
the
access,
so
you
can
see
the
agricultural
buildings
to
the
left
hand
side
there
now,
like
modern,
modern
band
structures,
quite
large
and
the
the
new
driveway
had
come
off
just
after
that
telegraph
pole
and
to
the
right
hand
side.
H
Next
slide,
please,
so
this
is
trick
plane.
So
at
this
point,
triplane
is
akin
to
a
country
lane
and
further
down.
That
way
is
all
it
leads
to
is
a
wood
hall,
hotel
and
spa
so
so
there
is
some
traffic
that
goes
down
there
already,
but
it
is
a
cul-de-sac
next
slide,
please,
and
this
is
just
looking
the
other
way.
So
this
is
towards
linton.
It
is
a
tarmac
road,
there's
just
a
lot
of
mud
on
it.
The
day
that
I
visited
next
slide,
please.
H
So
moving
on
in
terms
of
the
the
key
planning
considerations
and
the
site
situated
within
land
defined
as
green
belt,
and
as
you
will
be
aware,
the
construction
of
new
buildings
within
the
greenbelt
constitutes
inappropriate
development,
except
for
a
few
limitations
as
I've
outlined
within
the
report.
The
proposed
development
does
not
meet
any
of
these
exceptions
within
the
mppf
and,
as
such
is
considered
to
constitute
inappropriate
developments.
H
The
proposal
didn't
introduce
a
large
four
bed
property
in
a
place
currently
void
of
developments,
and,
as
such,
it
would
reduce
the
openness
of
the
green
belts
encroach
into
the
countryside
and
hand
the
character
of
the
special
landscape
area
and
the
mppf
advises
that
inappropriate
development
should
not
be
approved,
except
in
very
special
circumstances.
H
In
terms
of
the
the
very
special
circumstances
arguments,
it
is
noted
that
the
proposal
has
been
submitted
for
use
as
an
agricultural
workers
dwelling
and
that
paragraph
79a
of
the
mppf
permits
the
development
of
isolated
homes
in
in
the
countryside,
provided
there
is
an
essential
need
for
a
royal
worker
to
live
permanently
at
or
near
the
place
of
work.
H
However,
as
discussed
within
the
report
based
on
the
evidence
submitted,
there
is
not
considered
to
be
an
essential
need
for
a
rural
worker
to
live
on
the
site,
namely
because
of
the
nature
of
the
farming
which
is
arable
in
nature,
with
no
nearby
vulnerable
livestock
or
perishable
crops,
for
instance,
which
require
a
24-hour
presence
on
the
site,
and
the
applicants
also
have
an
existing
farmhouse
in
cullingham,
which
is
considered
to
deal
with
any
need
which,
which
does
exist
and
there's
not
considered
to
be
any
evidence,
likelihood
that
the
current
farmhouse
will
be
lost
in
the
near
future
and
on
another
point,
the
existing
dwelling
at
culinary
is
better
placed
geographically
in
relation
to
the
the
farm
holdings.
H
As
such,
it's
concluded
that
the
proposal
would
constitute
inappropriate
development
in
the
greenbelt,
leading
to
a
loss
of
openness
and
failing
to
assist
the
countryside
from
encroachment,
whilst
also
harming
the
character
of
a
special
landscape
area.
No
special,
no
very
special
circumstances
have
been
evidenced
which
are
considered
to
outweigh
this
harm.
H
As
such,
it's
considered
that
their
proposal
is
contrary
to
policies
m33
and
n37
of
the
udp
guidance
within
the
mppf,
and
as
such,
the
application
is
not
recommended
for
approval.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much
steve.
We
do
have
a
two
speakers
on
this
item
as
well
in
objection
to
the
application
we've
got,
mr
julian
holmes,
hello.
Would
you
like
to
come
forward
please
to
the
spare
seat
at
the.
A
K
Hello,
my
name's
julian
holmes,
with
coin
with
linton
parish
council,
I'm
here
primarily
to
respond,
if
necessary,
to
any
any
information
provided
by
the
the
applicant
I
responding
as
a
responder
to
the
applicant's
presentation,
but
I
can
I
can.
I
can
say
a
couple
of
words
now,
if
that's
appropriate,
I
think
okay,
collingwood
linton
parish,
council,
fully
support
lilac
farm
and
all
their
operations
that
they
have
within
culling
and
within
linton
and
also
within
the
wider
northeast
area.
K
K
An
example
was
twenty
zero,
eight
four
two
four
friars
crag
on
on
linton
common,
that
was
for
a
small
extension
to
the
rear
of
property
on
linton
common
attached
to
the
property
that
was
refu
was
refused
due
to
the
impact
on
green
belt
and
another
one
referenced
twenty
zero
six
one,
seven
eight
called
the
barn
on
linton
common
that
was
refused
by
elite
city
council
officers.
K
I
think
it
probably
went
to
plans
panel
too,
that's
been
through
the
appeal
process
and
the
appeal
inspectors
upheld
the
refusal
based
on
loss
of
openness
of
the
green
belt,
so
exactly
the
same
arguments
as
put
forward
for
refusal
for
for
this
application.
A
F
Thank
you
chair.
I've
got
a
few,
but
it
might
be
better
if
I
do
them
one
at
a
time,
rather
than
just
verbally
say
them
all
at
once.
I
managed
to
find
the
neighborhood
plan
online
for
linton,
and
so
so
my
question
sort
of
stem
around
that
a
little
bit
really.
The
first
one
is
in
the
neighborhood
plan:
chapter
16:
you
refer
to
the
importance
of
supporting
businesses
and
agriculture,
but
but
actually
in
chapter
16.
F
The
only
thing
you
mentioned
is
trying
to
get
broadband
introduced
to
the
village,
so
under
that
banner
of
agriculture,
how
are
you
trying
to
support
agriculture
within
the
village?
Is
that
something
that
needs
to
be
expanded
on
in
the
neighborhood
plan
or
you're
working
separately?
On
that
or
or
do
you
do?
You
have
any
comments
regarding
that
point?
Yeah.
K
The
point
is
really
that
that's
the
linton
neighborhood
plan
and
there
are
no
providers
of
business
specifically
with
premises
in
linton
that
are
affected
by
policies
in
the
neighborhood
plan.
The
the
land
is,
I
agree,
but
the
the
the
application
is
by
people
whose
premises
are
in
cullingham.
So
at
the
time
of
writing
the
neighborhood
plan,
it
was
very
difficult
to
to
to
to
know
what
might
come
forward
in
the
in
the
future
and
therefore
how
can
we
be
specific
about
any
specific
proposals.
F
K
It's
the
that's
the
kind
of
thought
process
we
had
when
we
were
preparing
the
neighborhood
plan
that
the
business
is
in
cullingham
and
then
calling
them.
Neighborhood
plan
were
actually
referenced
as
lilac
farm,
but
the
linton
neighborhood
plan
doesn't
because
the
the
business
was
outside
the
business
focal
point
and
address
and
everything
was
outside
linton.
F
Yes,
mr
collins,
go
ahead
right
and
the
second
one
again
is
referencing
the
neighborhood
plan.
It's.
It
says
that
on
page
25
that
the
village
survey
you've
got
60
of
the
people
who
responded
to
your
survey
said
that
they
would
accept
one
or
more
or
potentially
more
houses.
If
there
was
some
improvement
to
the
village
and
also
in
the
neighborhood
plan,
you
show
a
footpath.
F
I
can't
remember
what
page
it's
on
page
33
that
you
would
like
to
introduce
into
the
village
if
possible.
If
officers
could
put
up
the
plan,
please
where
it
shows
where
the
property
is
relative
to
the
field.
F
Have
you
got
the
black
and
white
one
just
the
plan
version
that
one
perfect
and
I
believe
from
the
neighborhood
plan,
it's
it's
the
line
that
runs
parallel
to
the
northern
edge
of
that
plan.
That
you've
you've
said
that
there
is
a
desire
for
the
parish
to
have
that
as
a
public
right-of-way
and
then
you've
got
60
of
the
people
within
the
parish
saying
if
something
could
come
forward
for
the
parish.
K
A
K
Right,
thank
you.
We've
approached
the
landowner,
mr
tyndale,
with
regard
that
potential
public
right
of
way
and
not
had
opportunities
to
pursue
it
whatsoever,
landowners
against
the
idea,
quite
significantly
against
the
idea.
F
K
F
And
then
also
in
the
neighborhood
plan,
it
shows
what
the
important
views
I
think,
they're
all
highlighted
in
blue
and
show
vistas
that
that
the
parish
wants
to
maintain.
But,
interestingly,
where
the
applicant
is
proposing,
the
farm
isn't
actually
covered
by
one
of
those
blue
blobs.
So
and
just
isn't
there
for
the
applicant.
F
K
I
would
I
would
disagree
that
I
think
the
site
is
impacted
by
the
footpath
from
lincoln
common
people.
Walking
up
the
path
will
have
a
very
good
view
of
the
property,
as
they
do
now,
the
current
barns
and
again
referring
to
the
cullingham
neighborhood
plan.
There
is
a
view
specifically
from
the
collingum
neighborhood
plan
across
across
the
fields
to
the
bars
which
says
that
that
has
to
be
protected.
K
I
just
sorry
I
didn't
come
back
back
with
regard
to
people
would
accept
small
development
in
linton
if
it
provided
some
some
benefits.
There
is
a
proviso
on
that
that
it
was
developed
within
the
built-up
area,
not
outside
the
built-up
area,
which
this
proposal
is.
A
Thank
you,
councillor,
collins.
I
know
you
want
to
come
in
council
lamb.
I
I'm
just
apologizing
for
the
noise
interruption.
I
hope
it's
not
too
distracting,
I'm
afraid
it's
a
product
of
having
to
have
the
windows
open,
but
we'll
make
a
point
of
checking
what's
happening
next
time
outside.
Thank
you,
councillor,
lam.
G
Yes,
thank
you
very
much
before
I
ask
my
question:
I'm
not
sure
if
you
caught
what
mr
holmes
said
at
the
back
of
the
room,
so
I
thought
it
would
be
helpful
because
I
think
you
were
suggesting
your
main
intention
was
to
respond,
and
I
don't
know
if
you're
aware
the
rules
don't
allow
that.
So
this
will
be
your
only
opportunity
to
to
speak
and
address
the
panel.
G
So
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you've
had
the
opportunity
to
say
everything
that
you
wanted
to
say
because
you
won't
be
able
to
come
back
after
the
applicant.
So
with
that
in
mind,
my
my
question
really
is:
I
totally
get
your
argument
about
the
green
belt
and
that's
the
principal
issue
for
for
you
here,
but
I
just
wonder
if
you'd
consider
that
there
is
any
other
harm
that
the
development
would
cause
outside
of
its
impact
on
the
green
belt.
K
Oh
absolutely
when
we
were
drafting
the
linton
neighborhood
plan,
we
were
extremely
concerned
by
potential
development
of
trip
lane.
K
We
we
weren't
in
a
position
to
allocate
any
sites
in
linton
because
they
were
all
green
belt,
but
when
we
were
reviewing
the
sites,
it
was
a
massive
concern
of
of
the
committee
and
the
residents
that
any
any
potential
traffic
on
trip
lane
would
create
a
hazard
and
would
cause
improvements
to
be
acquired
at
the
junction
with
main
street,
where
we
have
a
feature
called
the
triangle
and
the
triangle
we
we
feel
is
is
worthy
of
protection.
K
None
of
these
none
of
these
are
policies
within
the
linton
neighborhood
plan
because
they
wouldn't
conform
with
the
strategic
policies
of
the
core
strategy
and
the
site
allocations
plan.
These
are
the
kind
of
issues
that
were
cropping
up
during
the
development
of
the
plan,
and
I
apologize
for
my
misunderstanding
earlier
I
was
I
was
under
an
impression.
I
I
went
next
and
was
a
responder.
A
I'd
like
to
thank
council
alam
for
his
assistance
there,
because
I
couldn't.
I
couldn't
hear
your
remarks
from
the
back
of
the
room,
so
you
are
clear
now
that
this
is
your
opportunity
and
after
after
this
questioning,
you
will
not
be
able
to
be
brought
back
into
the
debate.
G
A
That's
lovely.
Thank
you
very
much
indeed,
thank
you
for
wiping
your
mic
down
in
line
with
covid
regulations
and
when
you've
done
that,
could
I
ask
you
to
go
back
to
the
public
gallery.
Please
thank
you
and
we
now
have
a
supporter
of
the
application
salyan,
who,
I
think,
is
the
edited.
If
you,
if
you
would
like
to
come
forward,
please.
L
A
L
A
L
My
name
is
sally
ann
kilby,
and
I,
along
with
my
husband
jeff,
are
the
applicants
for
this
new
farmhouse
at
trip
lane
linton
on
land
we've
owned
for
over
40
years,
we've
lived
in
cullingham
and
operated
out
of
lilac
farm
on
jewett
lane
for
54
years.
We
currently
have
in
excess
of
468
acres
of
land
in
collingham,
linton
and
shadwell
with
a
further
248
acres
in
york.
L
L
L
Neither
would
this
solve
many
of
the
problems
we
experience
after
50
plus
years
of
being
a
tenant,
the
opportunity
for
us
to
build
our
own
farmhouse
on
land.
We
own
would
be
a
relief,
as
many
people
will
appreciate.
Working
in
agriculture,
as
we
do
is
not
ideal,
and
it's
not
a
traditional
form
of
employment.
We
effectively
work
every
day,
sometimes
12
hours
a
day
involving
visits
to
the
site.
L
L
We
were
made
aware
that
our
landlords
intend
to
pursue
the
redevelopment
of
our
yard,
which
has
meant
that
we've
been
unable
to
plan
and
grow
our
agricultural
business
confirmed
again
this
week.
Understandably,
in
view
of
this
intention,
the
landlords
are
reluctant
to
bring
our
farmstead
up
to
fit
for
purpose
area.
L
L
A
A
L
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
indeed,
and
you
may
be
able
to
give
more
information
in
response
to
questions.
Are
there
any
questions
from
panel
members?
Please?
Yes,
councillor,
collins.
F
Thank
you
first,
could
you
finish
what
you
were
saying
if
there
is
more
to
say,
but
also
the
the
building
in
green,
build
is,
is
usually
only
permitted
when
there's
very
special
circumstances.
F
So,
first
of
all,
what
do
you
think
the
special
circumstances
really
are
the
fundamentals
and
secondly,
if
officers
were
to
or
if,
if
panel
were
to
grant
you
planning
permission
to
put
this
house
up,
would
you
be
adverse
to
there
being
a
condition
on
that
planning
permission
that
it
can
only
be
used
for
agricultural
families
that
it
wouldn't
be
a
normal
home?
It
would
just
be
one
for
agriculture,
so
please
finish
your
sentence,
special
circumstances
and
the
condition.
L
Thank
you,
okay.
Well,
the
special
circumstances.
We
have
had
significant
thefts
and
one
night
alone
recently
we
had
over
a
hundred
thousand
pounds
worth
of
equipment
stolen
which
is
devastating
to
us.
We've
had
anti-social
behavior,
which
the
parish
council
have
noted
on
their
minutes.
So
we
know
of
that.
L
L
We
can't
increase
our
capacity
and
therefore
increase
our
financial
viability
without
extending
the
equipment
that
we
have
in
the
shed,
which
is
similar
to
any
farmer,
growing
grass
or
pressing
seed
to
make
feed
for
their
cattle.
It's
no
different
to
that.
So
it
is
an
agricultural
process
that
we
are
doing
to
do.
That
means
that
jeff's
going
to
be
on
site
every
hour
for
12
hours.
If
we
were
lived
on
site
he'd
got
a
three
minute:
walk
across
the
yard.
L
If
he's
in
cullingham
he's
got
to
get
in
the
car,
it's
seven
minutes
to
get
there
seven
minutes
to
get
back
every
hour.
The
increased
traffic
on
trip
lane
is,
you
know
incredible
because
of
that,
and
so
therefore
it
really
is
added
to
the
fact
that
we
can't
get
any
car
vehicles
out
of
our
yard
at
collingham.
L
I
have
to
stand
in
the
middle
of
the
a58,
as
does
my
husband
and
stop
the
traffic
so
that
we
can
get
vehicles
onto
the
main
road
to
get
them
out
of
our
yard,
because
we
can't
there
isn't
the
space
in
our
yard
to
turn
them
round.
Vehicles
over
the
last
40
years
have
extended
in
size
tremendously
the
last
vehicle
we
had
in
our
yard.
L
We
had
to
cut
off
the
exhaust
pipe
because
it
couldn't
get
out
of
the
shed
it
had
got
in
with
the
grain,
but
because
of
the
grain
came
out,
the
vehicle
rose
up
and
we
had
to
cut
off
the
exhaust
pipe.
He
wasn't
very
happy.
It
was
a
brand
new
vehicle,
so
you
know
there
are
all
sorts
of
things
that
make
it
so
important.
L
L
A
G
Thank
you
chair,
so
I've
just
I've
got
a
few
questions
I'll
try
and
get
them
quickly,
some
conscious
on
time,
but
I'm
also
conscious.
This
is
a
really
important
issue
for
you
and
for
the
community.
Obviously,
the
green
belt
is
the
big
issue
and
demonstrating
there's.
A
very
special
circumstance
is:
is
the
key
so
there's
a
couple
of
questions
that
I'd
just
like
to
clarify
in
my
own
mind
that
I
think
will
help
members.
L
That's
correct,
but
the
situation
is
that
the
landlords
are
desperately
trying
to
they.
We,
I
had
an
email
this
week
they
are
wanting
to
get
planning
for
our
yard,
which
is
right
in
the
center
of
cullingham.
They
have
not
been
able
to
increase
our
sheds
or
make
our
yard
more
viable.
Every
time
it
rains
we're
underwater
because
it's
flooded,
we
can't
use
any
of
the
buildings
in
the
yard
at
collingham
for
agricultural
purposes,.
G
Thank
you.
So
could
you
tell
me
how
old
the
agricultural
buildings
are
at
linton.
G
Thank
you
and
then
I
just
wanted
to
explore.
You
say:
there's
no
option
to
get
an
alternative
accommodation
anywhere
else
in
collingham,
lincoln,
wetherby
area.
Can
you
just
just
expand
on
that,
and
so
just
give
us
a
rough
idea
of
the
the
cost
comparison
from
building
this
new
house
in
the
greenbelt
versus
getting
an
alternative
somewhere
else?
Well,.
L
We
anticipate
that
the
cost
of
building
the
new
house
in
in
linton
would
be
around
about
150
000,
because
we
own
the
land.
You
can't.
We
can't
buy
an
ex-council
house
for
less
than
300
000
and
where
can
you
park
a
tractor
or
a
navara?
There.
E
Thank
you
chair.
I
think
council
lamb
asked
part
of
what
I
was
gonna
ask
from
yourself
coming
from
a
farmer's
background.
I
totally
understand
where
you're
coming
from,
but
did
I
hear
it
right?
It's
seven
minutes
drive
from
where
you
are
currently
to
to
the
to
the
yard.
You're
talking
about
seven
minutes.
Okay,
thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
chair,
I'd
like
to
go
back
to
traffic
movement
on
trip
lane.
I
believe
it's
called.
So
if
you
were
to
relocate
to
the
trip
plane,
new
home
and
most
of
your
work
was
taking
place
in
collingum.
L
It
would
relieve
the
movement
of
the
ford
transit
and
the
vehicle
that
we
send
up
every
one
to
two
hours.
It
would.
You
would
probably
get
one
tractor
every
two
days:
movement
because
you're
not
spraying
every
day,
you're
not
drilling.
Every
day
we
have
contract
sprayers
that
go
in
so
they
wouldn't
come
from
us.
They
would
come
from
different
places,
so
it
wouldn't.
You
know
if
I
said
one
tractor
every
two
days
so.
A
I
think
we
have
actually
exhausted
them
this
time.
So
can
I
thank
you
very
much
indeed
salian
for
coming
along
this
afternoon
and
being
so
clear
with
us
about
the
reasons
for
your
case.
Thank
you.
Could
I
ask
you
to
wipe
the
mic.
A
C
Thank
you
chair.
I
just
wondered:
if
officers
had
undertaken
a
traffic
survey
on
trip
lane
and
whether
or
not
they
feel
that
the
traffic
movements
would
be
reduced
on
on
that
very
narrow,
looking
country
lane,
should
this
be
granted.
Thank
you
thank.
M
Thank
you
chair.
No,
we
haven't
undertaken
any
traffic
surveys
on
trip
lane,
but,
as
the
applicant
just
indicated,
they
are,
they
are
intending
to
move
there,
thereby
reducing
the
existing
vehicular
trips
between
the
site
and
where
they
currently
reside.
M
Overall,
this
would
be
betterment
to
the
operation
of
trip
lane
and
the
highway
network
and
that
triangle
on
main
street.
So
therefore
there
isn't
that
there
wouldn't
be
continuous
any
highway
safety
or
capacity
issues.
Thank
you.
A
F
Thank
you
chair.
I
think
in
the
presentation
that
officers
mentioned
that
the
nature
of
the
the
farm,
the
agriculture
that
this
this
family
is
undertaking
means
that
would
it
would
be
inappropriate
to
have
a
house
on
this
site,
because
the
nature
of
the
farming
was
not
livestock.
F
I've
never
read
that
anywhere
and
I'm
just
wondering
why
it
wouldn't
be
just
as
important
for
this
family
to
be
able
to
protect
its
equipment
and
any
other
facilities.
They
have
just,
as
importantly
as
livestock,
because
as
we've
heard,
if
tens
of
thousand
pounds
of
piece
of
equipment
is
stolen,
it's
not
easy
to
replace
and
that
can
be
even
more
devastating
than
potentially
losing
a
couple
of
animals
because
they're
not
being
monitored
regularly.
H
Yeah
and
I'll
start
off
and
roger
might
need
to
come
in
afterwards
to
provide
a
bit
of
extra
information.
If
you
turn
to
paragraph
33
of
the
the
panel
reports,
there,
I've
outlined
that
the
government's
guidance
in
the
mppg,
which
is
supplementary
to
the
to
the
mppf
and
the
key
test,
we're
looking
for
here,
is
essential
rural
workers
and-
and
this
paragraph
here
explains
how
that
test
is,
is
looked
at
and
some
of
the
instances
there.
H
So
the
top
one
says
considerations
that
it
may
be
relevant
to
take
into
account
when
applying
paragraph
79,
which
is
the
rural
workers.
One
is
evidence
of
the
necessity
of
a
rural
worker
to
live
at
or
in
close
proximity
to
their
place
at
work,
to
ensure
the
effective
operation
of
agricultural,
forestry
or
similar
land-based
rural
enterprise.
H
Now,
when,
when
we've
looked
at
this
application,
we've
looked
at
various
appeal
decisions
and
you
know
other
guns
which
is
available
and
in
the
majority
of
instances
it's
a
very
tough
test
to
meet
in
terms
of
needing
to
be
an
essential
worker
and
needing
you
know
proving
that
you
need
to
be
on
that
site
a
particular
time
and
the
guns
there
says
attention
24
hours
a
day,
and
I
think
when
we
looked
at
the
evidence
that
was
submitted
and
given
that
it,
you
know
the
the
nature
of
the
the
crops
which
are
a
rape
seed
oil.
H
We
don't
believe
that
it
meets
this.
This
test
and
most
of
the
appeals
are
when
applications
of
this
nature
are
granted
is
generally,
where
you
have
livestock
considerable
levels
of
livestock
where
you
need
to
be
on
site
at
birthing
times,
and
things
like
that,
and
maybe
raw
chicken
add
a
bit
more
in
on
on
that
he's.
The
expert
in
that
area.
J
Yes,
thank
you,
chair
yeah,
the
the
the
essential
need
is
usually
vulnerable
livestock,
which
would
tend
to
be
young
breeding
animals.
It's
an
animal
welfare
issue
that,
if
you,
if
you
are
breeding
pigs
and
you
have
young
pigs
or
if
you
are
breeding
calves-
and
there
are
young
calves,
then
something
can
happen
during
the
night.
If
there's
not
somebody
in
attendance
or
close
by
who
can
monitor
things,
the
other
alternative
that
we
have
come
across
is
where
they've
been
valuable
plants.
I
Yes,
thank
you
chair.
I
think,
there's
probably
just
one
point
to
note
that
this
report
and
the
advice
that's
been
given
is
in
the
context
that
there's
an
existing
house
which
serves
the
needs
of
the
of
the
farm.
Now
we've
heard
the
the
applicant
speak
about
that
and
that
they've
had
fresh
information.
Well,
it's
new
information
to
us
they've
received
information
that
the
landlord
is
coming
forward
with
the
proposal
to
redevelop
or
plans
to
redevelop
that
particular
yard.
We
haven't
seen
that
we
don't
we
don't
know
about
that.
I
We
don't
know
what
merit
that
that
carries
what
the
time
scale
is.
We
don't
even
know
what
the
nature
of
that
proposed
development
is,
but
the
advice
that
we're
actually
giving
is
in
the
context
well,
there's
an
existing
property
there.
There
may
well
be
that
and
that
serves
the
needs
of
the
farm,
so
the
application
that
they've
got
before
us
is
for
a
new
farmhouse
and
we've
got
no
certainty
that
the
existing
farmhouse
will
go
to
the
best
of
our
knowledge
at
the
present
time.
I
I
I
I
think
you
just
need
to
bear
in
mind
so
that
six
seven
minute
drive
time
which
was
referred
to
earlier,
and
that
comes
down
to
that's
important
in
terms
of
the
speed
of
reacting
and
then
to
any
problems
that
may
exist
on
site
and
the
nature
of
what
carries
on
on
the
linton
is
continued
on
the
linton
sites.
I
think
members
just
need
to
bear
that
in
mind.
I
I
F
I'm
just
amazed
really
about
what
officers
have
said
about
the
mppf
and
the
mppg
that
if
there
was
evidence
a
question,
yeah
yeah.
If
there
was
evidence
of
plants,
expensive
plants
being
vulnerable,
then
then
it
would
be
okay,
but
farm
equipment
which
is
even
more
expensive,
doesn't
doesn't
warrant.
F
Doesn't
warrant
any
sort
of
consideration
and
and
can't
therefore
allow
this
this
building
in
the
greenbelt?
It
just
seems
very
strange
to
me
that
plants
are
okay.
Expensive
plants
are
okay,
but
expensive
plant
isn't
earthquake,
so
I
mean
what
how
do
offices
consider
what
is
acceptable
when
it
comes
to
the
vulnerability
of
farm
equipment
from
crime,
because
it
does
say
crime
in
there,
but
seven
minutes
is
a
long
time
if
your
burglar
alarm
goes
off
to
actually
get
to
your
property,
to
see.
A
So
I
think
the
question
there
was
was
additional
to
what's
already
been
answered,
which
is
how
do
officers
make
those
decisions
about
what
is
and
isn't
vulnerable
under
the
crime
bracket?.
I
Okay,
thank
you
jer.
If
I
I
can
start
and
then,
if
steve's
got,
some
can
can
pick
up
or
roger
can
help
as
well.
If,
if
possible,
we
have
it's.
It's
dealt
with
a
paragraph
61
of
the
panel
report
and
I
I
take
your
point
fully.
Counselor
collins,
you're
right,
it's
crime
is
one
of
those
considerations
that
we
would
have
regard
to.
But
what
we're
saying
is,
in
the
circumstance
that
we've
got
this
particular
site
crime
by
itself,
wouldn't
necessarily
lead
to
us
granting
planning
permission
for
dwelling
on
on
this
site.
I
The
fact
that
the
dwelling
that
we
had
that
dwelling
there
is
a
is
a
key,
important
issue,
because
if
we
were
to
accept
that
argument
on
face
value,
we
could
have
a
circumstance
where
we
could
have
people
coming
forward
with
agricultural
land
wanting
to
put
quite
reasonably
cultural
buildings
up
on
there,
but
use
that
as
a
vehicle
as
it
were.
Excuse
us
to
then
secure
another
dwelling
by
virtue
of
the
fact
that
you're
saying
well
we're
storing
important
and
expensive
equipment
here.
Therefore,
we
need
a
dwelling.
I
So
it
is
a
very
high
bar
and
a
high
test,
and
it
does
put
the
applicant
through
a
lot
of
hoops
as
it
were,
to
to
get
to
that
to
get
to
a
permission
through
that.
A
B
B
When
I
first
read
the
report,
I
thought
it's
an
open
and
shut
case.
It's
an
individual
building
in
the
middle
of
greenbelt.
No
way
can
we
agree
that,
but
we
heard
the
applicant
say
that
there
are
certain
difficulties
which
mr
newberry
says.
We've
got
no
evidence
of
that
and
I
would
just
like
to
move
that
this
item
be
deferred
for
further
information,
because
I
don't
think
we
can
really
take
a
decision
today.
B
It's
awful
to
say
this,
but
we
have
had
applicants
in
the
past.
That
will
tell
you
a
real
sub
story.
We
go
with
them
and
it's
nothing
of
the
sort.
So
we
have
to
be
very,
very
careful.
So
if
we,
if
we
could
have
this
application
deferred
and
further
investigations
made
we'll
all
be
clear
in
our
own
mind
what
we
are
voting
for,
if
what
the
resident
of
the
applicant
has
said
is
is
correct,
then
I'm
quite
sure
that
we
will
come
to
a
different
conclusion
to
what
the
report
says.
A
G
G
The
other
two
will
be
a
bit
more
detailed
answers,
I'd
just
like
a
bit
of
expansion
on
the
planning
history
of
the
proposed
site.
In
recent
times,
officers
have
given
permission
for
agricultural
buildings
in
the
greenbelt,
just
be
useful
to
get
some
help
on
the
policy
position
on
that
and
why
that
was
okay,
an
officer's
view
and
the
dwelling
would
not
be
okay.
H
Yeah,
so
so
the
recent
consents
at
the
trip
lane
site
relate
to
the
modern
style
ban
that
you
saw
and
bear
not
dealt
with
through
a
a
planning
application.
It's
it's
done
through
an
agricultural
determination.
It's
like
a
prior
approval
situation,
so
officer's
input
into
that
is
significantly
restricted.
Providing
the
development
meets
certain
criteria
so
in
in
relation
to
that.
H
They'll
have
had
to
put
in
some
some
basic
information
relating
to
the
use
of
the
buildings
and
how
it
relates
to
the
surrounding
land,
and
if
it
was
just
for
the
storage
of
machinery,
for
instance,
to
to
service
that
field
adjacent,
then
providing
the
the
building
met
the
the
criteria
of
the
height
size,
and
it
was
recited
okay,
you
know,
but
the
council
couldn't
really
reject
it,
but
I
I
didn't
deal
with
application
myself,
so
I
don't
know
be
the
ins
and
outs
of
it,
but
that's
that's
a
basic
overview
of
how
those
are
dealt
with.
A
J
Yes,
just
a
quick
point.
Unfortunately,
I
can't
turn
to
the
section
in
nppf,
but
agricultural
buildings
are
or
what's
the
phrase
appropriate
development
in
the
green
belt.
A
dwelling
is
not
an
agricultural
belt
is
not
an
agricultural
building.
G
Yeah,
I've
just
got
one
more
question
on
highways,
so
with
a
bit
of
local
knowledge,
the
the
area
is
very
familiar
to
me
because
I
spent
more
time
than
I'd
like
to
remember
stuck
in
traffic
on
the
a58
because
of
the
the
issues
at
the
jewett
lane
junction
with
the
a58
and
also
with
the
junction
with
harewood
road
which,
both
of
which
you
would
need
to
travel
through
to
get
from
the
current
farm
to
the
existing
farm.
G
It
is
not
uncommon,
as
I
commented
to
cancer
collins
earlier
today,
when
I
leave
from
weatherby
to
come
here.
I
need
to
allow
an
hour
if
the
traffic's,
clear,
it'll,
take
me
25
minutes,
it's
not
uncommon
to
sit
for
20
or
25
minutes
through
that
short
section
of
road,
so
the
seven
minutes
that's
referred
to,
which
sounds
very
quick,
could
easily
be
20
minutes
or
half
an
hour.
G
M
Thank
you,
chair
the
based
on
what
the
applicant
has
said,
based
on
the
number
of
movements
they'll
have
to
do
throughout
the
day
that
it
comes
to
about
24
trips
a
day
so
over
12
hour
period.
Now,
if
they
move
in
and
that
will
significantly
reduce
their
mark
traffic,
so
overall
they'll
be
betterment
to
the
capacity
and
safety
of
the
highway
network,
and
this
is
why
there's
no
highway
objection
to
that
planning
application.
H
H
So
even
you
know,
even
if
it
is
if
it
does
take
longer
than
than
the
six
to
seven
minutes
which
is
considered
to
be.
You
know
the
standardized
time.
There's
still
gonna
have
to
be
other
journeys
to
the
other
land
holdings.
So,
overall
we
didn't
give
significant
weight
to
reduction
in
traffic
at
trip
lengths.
It
could
well
have
impacts
elsewhere,.
A
G
I
don't
think
my
questions
were
answered
and,
depending
on
the
answer,
I
may
well
support
cancer
nash's
proposal.
Okay,
so
I
didn't
get
a
response
to
whether
or
not
there
has
been
any
traffic
survey
or
information
provided
about
the
impact
on
that
junction
or
whether
we're
basing
it
on
just
what's
been
said.
H
There's
been
no
traffic
information
submitted
with
the
application.
We've
not
assessed
any
ourselves,
because
we
just
assessed
this
as
a
new
dwelling,
we
should
associate
a
few
movements
with
with
per
day.
We
didn't
really
have
any
technical
highway
documents
submitted
by
the
applicant
that
we
could
respond
to
in
that
manner.
A
F
Thank
you
chair.
I
would
actually
like
to
support
what
counselor
nash
has
said
about
deferment.
I'd
also
be
like
to
encourage
officers
to
try
and
get
the
applicant
to
to
have
some
sort
of
communication
with
the
parish
council.
The
parish
council
have
written
a
very
good
neighborhood
plan
and
in
it
that
they
have
made
proposals
about
other
footpaths.
F
So
there
is
on
page
33,
I'm
expecting
officers
to
write
this
down
by
the
way,
not
everyone
to
understand
what
I'm
on
about,
but
on
page
33,
there
is
a
footpath
path,
labeled
number
one,
which
is
a
track
which
runs
parallel
to
the
applicant's
land,
and
I'm
just
wondering
whether
the
applicant
and
the
parish
council
could
actually
move
this
proposal
for
this.
This
track
to
be
converted
into
a
footpath
onto
the
applicant's
land.
F
I
do
think
it
from
looking
at
the
plan
in
the
neighborhood
plan.
It
would
benefit
people
walking
in
the
area
if
that
top
edge
of
the
field
could
actually
be
be
used
by
people.
And
the
second
thing
is
you
get
some
very
nice
farms
and
you
get
some
very
ugly
farms.
You
get
some
farms
where
they
just
the
straw,
that's
got
damp
and
they
just
leave
it
in
piles
to
rot.
You
get
broken
farm
equipment.
F
They
generally
look
a
mess.
Then
you
get
other
farmers
who
are
very
considerate
and
like
to
make
sure
that
their
homestead
is
actually
very
attractive
as
well.
So
I
didn't
know
whether
officers
could
explore
a
little
bit
more
about
I'm
going
to
call
it
landscaping,
but
I
don't
mean
landscaping,
it's
just
just
what
will
happen
to
the
the
area
around
this
building?
What
will
it
look
like?
What?
What
will
it
be?
What
impact
visually
will
it
have
on
people
walking
up
and
down
that
lane?
F
Would
it
become
an
eyesore,
or
would
it
be
something
that
would
blend
naturally
into
the
background
after
it's
been
built
for
a
few
years?
Thank
you.
A
Chair,
thank
you
for
those
thoughts.
I
know
you're
waiting
to
speak
ellen,
but
I'm
going
to
come
to
councillor
flint,
who
hasn't
had
a
chance
yet
to
get
her
work.
C
Yes,
I
think
that
nash's
suggestion
is
a
sensible
one.
I
think
the
the
bar
is
very
high
to
me
to
build
on
greenbelt
land
and
so
with
david,
suggesting
that
the
new
information
heard
about
the
landlord's
proposal
might
change
what
the
officers
suggest.
Then
it
feels
like
we
can't
really
make
a
like
long-term
decision
today
and
as
I'm
new
to
plans,
I
just
wondered
if
we
were
rejected
this
today
on
the
fact
it
hasn't
met
the
bar
for
green
belt.
How
soon
can
the
applicant,
like
reapply.
A
It
wouldn't
it
wouldn't
be.
I
don't
think
it
would
be
rejected
today
it
would
be
deferred,
which
would
mean,
I
think,
david,
that
we
would
want
to
come
back
to
the
same
report
again,
but
with
additional
information
that
we
haven't
got
today,
that's
how
it
would
work,
and
I
think
it
would
be
just
as
long.
It
would
certainly
be
a
cycle
until
the
next
meeting,
but
it
would
be
as
long
as
it
took
to
get
that
information
together.
That's
how
it
would
work.
Counselor,
lam.
G
Thank
you,
chair
I'll,
be
brief,
I
think.
Given
what
we've
heard,
I
would
be
inclined
to
support
what
counselor
nash
has
put
forward
a
bit
like
council
than
when
I
first
read
the
report.
It
was,
it
seemed
quite
black
and
white.
The
more
we've
heard
my
my
viewers,
let's
kind
of
move,
but
I
don't
feel
we
have
all
of
the
information.
We
need
to
be
able
to
make
an
informed
decision
today,
and
I
think
that
the
key
things
that
we
do
need
are
information
about
highways.
G
We
need
information
about
what
the
position
is
around
the
the
lab.
My
instinct
is:
if
they
move
it
makes
it
more
likely
that
that
site's
developed,
rather
than
rather
than
less,
but
we
need.
We
need
to
understand
that.
So
I
think
they're,
the
two
key
things
that
we
need
to.
We
need
a
bit
more
information
and
I
have
to
say
my
reading
of
the
the
nppg
and
they're.
Actually,
it
seems
to
read
differently
to
what
the
officers
have
concluded
that
actually
it
makes
the
case
rather
than
defends
it.
A
Thank
you
for
those
comments.
Councillor
smith.
C
Thank
you
chair.
I
I
would
support
councillor
nash
with
the
with
the
defer
of
this
application.
C
Until
we
get
well
confirmation
on
the
status
of
the
current
farmhouse
and
home,
I
believe
we
need
to
support
our
agricultural
workers
in
any
way
we
can,
but
we
also
need
to
safeguard
the
green
belt.
That's
absolutely
paramount
and
I
think
we're
all
in
agreement
on
that.
C
So
if
we
were
to
come
back,
I'd
like
to
see
a
condition
on
the
home
that
it's
for
agricultural
use
only
never
to
be
sold
for
private
ownership
with
no
further
development,
and
I'd
also
like
to
see
some
form
of
traffic
survey
to
either
prove
or
disprove
what
each
party
is
currently
telling
us
please.
Thank
you.
Thank.
D
Thank
you
chair,
we're
looking
at
special
circumstances
this
afternoon
regarding
the
actual
farming
enterprise,
but
the
report
also
mentions
that
the
applicants
are
involved
in
other
business
activities,
not
farm
related.
D
So,
whilst
I
agree
with
the
deferment,
I
think
I'd
also
like
more
investigation
into
the
other
business
activities
and
what
percentage
is
actually
given
over
to
farming
and
what?
How
much
is
giving
over
to
the
commercial
activities,
because
we're
actually
basing
on
farming.
So
I'd
like
a
bigger
picture
on
that.
Thank
you.
A
E
You
just
just
a
quick
one,
I'd
totally
kind
of
second,
the
the
proposal
by
council
nash
in
terms
of
deferment.
However,
I
would
also
like
to
look
at
some
of
the
exceptional
circumstances
where
there
is
precedence
where
the,
where
the,
where
the
planning
was
permitted
previously,
apart
from
just
considering
the
the
livestock
and
and
and
plants
only
so
if
there
is
another
precedence,
I
would
like
to
see
if
the,
if
the
planning
was
permitted,
why
and
how
that
would
differ
so.
E
A
I
Okay,
thank
you
chair.
Hopefully,
I've
noted
everything
down,
but
if
I've
missed
something,
then
please
let
me
know
so:
we've
got
council
nasha's,
move
to
firmament
for
further
information
and
further
information
that
I've
got
noted
down
to
bring
back
to
members
is
in
respect
to
the
prospective
redevelopment
proposals
for
the
collingham
site
in
terms
of
the
status
of
those
what
they
are
in
the
time
scale
for
those
coming
forward.
I
I
I'm
not
sure
that
we've
actually
had
all
of
those
being
put
to
us
before
so
we'll
revisit
that
and
bring
back
more
information
on
that
for
you,
council
collins
point
about
the
footpath
delivery
discussion
between
the
applicants
and
the
parish
council
to
see
if
that
will
happen,
and
also
the
point
about
what
will
happen
to
the
land
around
the
new
building
or
the
new
dwelling.
If
that
were
come
to
be
and
then
further
informations
in
respect
of
highways,
now
councillor
smith
mentioned
something
about
a
mentioned
traffic
survey.
I
A
I
would
add
to
that
david,
the
the
displacement
factor
as
well,
so
whether
other
journeys
would
be
required
if
the
if
the
residents
were
living
at
the
new
building,
whether
that
would
actually
result
in
in
travel
in
the
opposite
direction,
so
to
speak.
C
Sorry
check
can
I
just
come
in.
It
makes
mention
in
the
report
as
well
in
the
objections
to
the
number
of
traffic
journeys
on
trip
lanes.
Specifically,
so
will
it
will
it
improve
that
or
will
it
will
it
not?
So
that's
for
one
of
the
objectives.
Thank
you.
I
Yes,
that's
fine,
I
of
moving
the
and
what
the
traffic
journeys
will
be
and
then
noted
a
point
from
councillors
about
conditions
in
respect
of
agriculture
and
occupancy
in
terms
of
no
further
development.
I
That's
not
something
that
we
could
actually
condition,
but
we,
if
members
are
minded
to
put
such
con
a
condition
on
it,
would
have
to
be
in
respect
of
removing
permitted
development
rights
for
the
right
to
put
up
agricultural
agricultural
buildings
simply
mean
they
would
need
planning
permission
for
those
buildings,
and
they
would
need
to
come
to
us
for
those
rather
than
having
the
right
to
to
to
put
those
up.
So
we'll
look
at
all
of
those
and
bring
a
report
back
to
to
members.
Hopefully.
A
So
I
think
we
better
formally
put
councillor
nash's
motion,
which
is
to
defer
this
report
for
how
long
david,
at
least
a
cycle
or
do
you?
How
long
do
you
think
it
would
take.
D
Thank
you
chair.
I
didn't
so
if
I
missed
it
david,
but
I
don't
think
you
included
the
business
activities.
I
A
A
Is
there
anything
else,
you'd
like
to
say
david
before
we
close,
I
know
okay.
Well,
thank
you
all
very
much
for
this
meeting
in
the
flesh,
so
to
speak
14
months.
I
think
it
must
have
been
since
you
were
gathered
around
this
table
last.
So
thank
you
very
much
indeed,
and
we've
managed
it
within
the
time
scale
as
well.
So
thank
you
very
much
see
you
next.