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A
So
we
have
a
number
of
apologies
so
against
a
few
empty
seats,
but
that
will
come
out
when
debbie
informs
us.
Can
I
welcome
you
all
to
today's
meeting.
I
know
a
few
of
us
didn't
get
our
papers
until
tuesday,
but
it
it
wasn't
electronically
circulated.
A
A
B
C
B
I'll
take
silence,
as
there
are
none
under
agenda
item.
Five.
Apologies
for
absence
have
been
received
from
councillors,
campbell
and
david
blackburn.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
Thank
you.
Debbie
we've
skipped
a
few
stats,
but
you
know
what
it
is
anyway.
Don't
you
so
we'll
move
straight
on
to
item
number
six,
which
is
minutes
of
the
previous
meeting
24th
of
february.
A
Page
15
finally
page
16.,
can
we
agree
them
as
a
true
and
correct
record,
okay
moving
on
then
what
is
arising.
A
And
we
then
go
to
agenda
item
number.
Eight
we've
got
seven
here.
Where
is
that?
Is
it
seven?
Is
it
yeah
yeah?
I
haven't
skipped
it
item.
Seven,
you
doing
this
come
in
when
you're
ready.
Please,
and
can
I
say
that
we
do
have
brian
here
so
obviously
you
will
have
questions
for
him
and
I'll
bring
him
in.
When
I
told
you
this
introduced,
it.
D
Okay,
thank
you.
Chair
members
will
recall
this
proposal
from
september
last
year.
It
was
an
application
for
322
flats
to
be
provided
in
four
blocks,
with
undercroft
car
parking
and
landscape
to
meet
space
and
there's
a
visual
on
the
screen
showing
the
development
from
e
street
next
to
the
the
listed
church
building
there.
D
Now
at
the
time,
members
will
will
note
from
the
report
and
recall
that
the
proposals
had
been
the
subjects
of
a
financial
viability
case.
D
This
offer
was
to
form
the
basis
of
an
overage
clause
in
the
section
106
agreement,
and
the
decision
in
september
last
year
was
to
defer
and
delegate
the
approval
subject
to
completion
of
the
section
106
agreement.
Unfortunately,
since
last
september,
we
have
not
been
able
to
conclude
the
section
106
agreement.
D
The
the
reasons
are
detailed
in
the
report,
but
but
in
summary,
the
the
position
put
to
us
is
that
the
the
anticipated
building
construction
costs
have
increased
significantly
since
last
year
and
they
are
predicted
to
increase
further
this
year.
D
D
D
Officers
have
taken
advice
from
brian
mcguire,
who
represents
the
district
valuer
and
he's
here
to
answer
any
questions
that
members
may
have,
and
brian
has
advised
that
the
offer
of
18
affordable
units
still
remains
an
acceptable
viability
position.
D
D
I'd
like
to
advise
members
that,
although
an
overage
clause
was
offered
by
the
applicant
and
accepted
in
this
case,
the
council's
planning
policy
does
not
require
such
and
such
a
clause
within
the
agreement.
So
in
conclusion,
it
is
considered
that
the
insistence
on
the
ovaries
cause
is
now
likely
to
hamper
attempts
to
deliver
the
overall
development.
D
This
is
a
site,
that's
been
vacant.
For
a
long
time,
it's
had
previous
iterations
for
planning
which
haven't
come
forward.
D
There
is
a
prospect
because
of
the
current
economic
climate
that
this
will
come
forward
because
we're
in
a
development
cycle,
as
members
will
be
aware,
so
therefore
officers
are
recommending
that
we
agree
to
completion
of
the
section
106,
but
without
the
previously
offered
overage
clause.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
Thank
you
dolce.
It
might
be
good
to
bring
this
district
valuer
in
at
this
stage
and
he
will
be
available
for
further
questions,
as
will
officers.
Brian,
please.
E
Thank
you
just
just
to
add
a
couple
of
other
points
on
to
what
garget
said.
We
first
started
looking
at
this
scheme
in
2019,
and
I
don't
know
if
any
of
you
recall,
but
we
did
have
a
meeting
where
we
did
feel
that
there
was
there
was
a
potential
to
get
more
affordable
out
of
it
and
that
that
was
achieved
by
increasing
the
density.
Wasn't
it
downgraded.
So
we
the
developer,
went
away.
E
There
was
some
design
issues
as
well,
where
the
council,
the
members
weren't
too
happy
with
the
look
of
the
building
and
one
thing
in
another.
So
I
think
there
was
a
design
meeting
anyway.
The
outcome
of
that
was
that
they
came
back
with
a
new
scheme
which
I
have
reviewed
and.
E
E
E
We
did
enter
into
discussions
and
negotiations,
but
when
it
came
to
the
the
the
level
of
profit
at
which
the
scheme
would
generate
an
overage,
we
couldn't
reach
an
agreement.
I'd
always
appraise
the
scheme
at
eight
percent
profit
on
cost
and
the
applicant
had
a
had
a
higher
figure
in
mind
at
15.
E
A
Thank
you,
brian
invite
questions
from
members.
I
saw
down
sound
first
thank.
E
E
Yes,
I
think
you're
correct
if,
if
all
things
remain
the
same,
if
the
costs
remain
the
same
as
they
were
yeah
yeah,
I
think
it's
very
very
fairly
put
that
in
a
way
you
could
consider
it
that
way
as
an
average.
H
A
I
see
no
hands
okay.
Is
anybody
prepared
to
move
officer's
report
then,
or
do
you
want
to
make
a
comment?
I
think
the
comment
says
thank
you
and
there's
a
secondary
okay,
all
those
in
favor
and
removing
the
overage
clause
from
the
application.
Please
show,
I
think,
that's
clear,
that's
unanimous!
Thank
you.
A
A
Okay,
no,
I
didn't,
but
I
thought
was,
I
couldn't
see
you
behind
caroline,
actually,
okay,
so
is
that
an
abstention
then
kaylee.
Is
that
an
abstention
on
and
against?
Okay,
that
will
be
recorded
moving
on
then
to
pre-app
agenda
item
number
eight,
and
that
will
be
a
surprise.
I
guess
to
developers
that
we've
got
through
here
so
quickly,
so
we'll
give
them
a
couple
of
minutes.
A
A
B
Skinner
street
some
members
visited
site
this
morning
and
had
a
good
look
around,
but
I
don't
want
to
steal
afghans.
Thunder
we've
got.
I
Thanks
tim
thanks,
chair
members,
tom
cook,
from
zerum
planning
consultants,
who've
been
working
with
ridgeback,
who
are
the
owners
of
the
sites.
I've
got
christian
gillam
here.
The
architects
from
liege
road,
leach,
rhodes,
walker
and
christian
will
take
you
to
the
the
scheme
that
we're
putting
before
you
today.
F
So,
unfortunately,
now
our
clients
aren't
able
to
be
with
us
today
they're
they
are
very
busy
and
very
active
built
to
rent
and
development
and
operating
company.
I'm
just
going
to
do
their
very
quick
intro.
F
They
are
working
across
the
country
on
multiple
schemes.
They've
got
a
fantastic
track
record
in
delivery,
so
they're
they're,
not
just
there
to
to
buy
us
by
site,
get
planning
and
then
move
on.
They
deliver
and
operate
they're
very
well
funded
by
various
funding
sources,
so
the
funding
is
already
in
place
and
they
also
jv
with
contractors
who
we've
been
working
with
to
develop
the
scheme
to
present
to
you
today.
F
So
what
we're
presenting
to
the
best
of
our
knowledge
is
is
completely
deliverable,
so
I
won't
dwell
on
their
slides.
I
can
come
back
and
answer
any
questions,
so
our
our
design
proposes
obviously
for
a
bill
to
rent
scheme
mix
of
apartment
types,
one
two
and
three
bed
and,
as
you
know,
the
site,
I'm
sure
you
will
know
very
well.
It's
on
a
major
gateway
entry
point
into
the
city
centre
from
wellington
street
I'll.
F
Come
on
to
this
a
bit
later
in
the
presentation,
but
we've
we've
obviously
tried
to
achieve
and
have
achieved
all
of
your
benchmark
standards
across
a
whole
range
of
categories,
so
that
includes
energy
sustainability,
accessibility
and
ndss
compliant
the
building
is
a
tall
building.
It's
just
30
there.
I
think
it's
a
31
on
the
presentation
in
a
in
a
location
that
has
previously
had
a
consent
for
a
for
a
tall
building,
but
we
think
there's
justification
for
the
proposal
that
we're
presenting
today.
F
So
some
key
principles
are
brought
up
on
the
the
slide
there.
As
I
say
said,
the
slide
is
on
that
junction
from
I
call
it.
The
inner
ring
road
have
been
corrected,
can't
remember
the
road
number,
but
that
entry
point
as
you
come
down
wellington
street
into
the
city
centre.
So
we've
looked
to
put
a
focal
point
on
that
corner
that
addresses
that
arrival
and
gateway
into
the
city.
F
F
So
this
I've
got
a
series
of
floor
plans
and
I'll
try
and
be
very
brief
on
these.
So
the
key
active
area
in
the
main
entrance,
the
building
is
in
the
red
corner,
which
forms
this
sweeping
curve.
That
brings
you
in
around
the
site
and
into
the
city,
and
then
the
ancillary
facilities
these
days
there's
a
lot
of
them.
Sprinklers
cycles
bins
are
sort
of
tucked
away
on
around
onto
skinner
street.
F
In
the
gray
and
the
blue
areas,
the
building
do
have
does
have
two
entrances
and
two
cores
which
access
the
upper
floors
independently,
but
the
idea
is
that
people
enter
via
build
to
rent
ancillary
facilities.
F
The
red
area
first
floor
that
accommodation
to
give
you
that
two-story,
dynamic,
active
frontage
looking
out
and
seeing
people
inside
doing
things
is
the
red
area
on
the
corner,
so
that
built
around
amenity
is
in
the
red
cycles,
are
in
the
in
the
yellow,
so
we're
fully
compliant
with
the
cycle
provision
and
then
the
apartments
start
on
the
upper
floors.
They're
color-coded
for
the
different
apartment
types,
so
green
is
three
beds.
F
Blue
is
two
and
then
there's
a
turquoisey
color
in
for
the
one
beds,
so
the
buildings
and
all
the
apartments
face
out
they
address
the
boundaries.
We've
been
very
careful
in
terms
of
our
relationship
with
ebook
core.
We
don't
have
windows
overlooking
that
boundary
on
the
basis
that
something
could
come
forward
on
there,
but
there's
opportunities
to
look
out
there
if,
if
that
became
an
area
of
open
space,
so
our
buildings
passively
survey
all
the
outward
streets
from
the
upper
level.
F
What
I
should
have
said
on
the
previous
slide
is:
there's
a
there's,
a
route
over
10
stories
at
the
lower
level.
This
cut
through
so
an
extension
of
skinner
street,
where
we
can
come
underneath
the
building
and
through
and
out
onto
west
gate
and
then
on
the
upper
levels.
That
then
joins
and
completes
the
building
form
quite
hard
to
describe
this
on
plan,
so
we'll
come
through
to
the
the
visuals.
F
So
our
design
of
this
building
has
taken
in
several
factors
but
wind,
as
well
as
our
outlook,
we've
also
completed
tvia
views,
we've
been
two
wind
tunnel
tests
and
but
our
design
really
was
to
we've
done
this
whole
series
of
massing
views
and
I'll
fly
through
these,
because
these
are
fairly
hard
to
work
out,
but
we've
analyzed
the
site
from
a
range
of
viewpoints
and
now
looking
at
all
the
principal
approaches
and
identifying
this
building
as
a
gateway
building.
F
So
this
is
wellington
road
and
then
we've
looked
at
the
cumulative
development
that
could
happen.
So
these
are
all
white
card
views
as
you
approach
the
site
down
wellington
road,
then,
with
new
development
coming
forward
the
building
as
you're
coming
over
the
dual
carriageway
and
then
those
buildings
that
are
currently
consented
that
will
happen
around
our
site
and
then
looking
from
the
other
direction.
F
So
these
approach
views
on
the
on
the
dual
carriageway
were
quite
important
to
us.
Here
you
can
see
the
cumulative
development
the
chart
starts
to
shield
our
building
and
then
we're
very
mindful
of
the
approach
from
the
west
that
our
building
didn't
appear
overly
wide
because
it's
quite
a
long
slender
building-
and
I
think
you
can
see
here
on
these
approach
views.
Whilst
it
is
a
it's,
it's
got
its
widest
side
to
this
approach.
These
sweeping
curves,
take
you
around
the
site
and
in
into
the
approach
into
the
city.
F
F
So
if
anyone
could
spot
the
building
appearing
there
just
behind
those
buildings
in
the
background,
so
this
is
from
park
square
east
and
then
some
of
the
cumulative
work.
Now
our
model
is
missing
some
of
the
new
cumulative
schemes
that
are
around
us,
but
I
don't
think
it
makes
any
difference
to
the
the
impact
that
we
see
on
these
views.
F
So
our
view
outside
the
bank
of
england
park
place
building
appearing
cumulative.
F
So
we
don't
it's
not
a
building,
that's
significantly
rising
above
its
context.
Whilst
it's
a
tall
building,
it's
not
affecting
the
the
character
of
some
of
these
important
views.
F
F
F
Now,
obviously,
it's
going
to
be
most
visible
from
those
open
aspect
approaches
from
from
the
west
and
on
that
route
into
the
city,
but
equally
that
we
wanted
to
form
that
arrival
as
you
come
into
the
city
centre,
so
you're
getting
a
bit
of
a
taster,
obviously
of
the
the
architectural
styling
before
we've
got
to
that.
But
our
approach
to
that
design
was
that
we're
looking,
obviously
at
a
contemporary
design,
building
high
quality,
robust
materials.
F
So
we've
got
what
you
can
see
on
these
views.
Obviously
the
one
from
westgate
and
the
one
looking
directly
from
wellington
street
those
active
ground
floor
levels.
You
see
the
cut
through
the
building,
this
dynamic
form
of
the
building
which
sort
of
addresses
the
routes
around
the
site
and
then
stepping
the
building
as
well.
F
You
see
this
building,
this
exciting
dynamic,
building
wrapping
around
viewer
eye
level-
and
this
is
the
area
we're
hoping
it's
going
to
be
improved
new
cycle
network.
We
can
get
this
connection
through
the
building
and
into
the
the
site
beyond
down
skinner
street
materials.
Wise
I've
mentioned
brit
work
very
high
quality.
We
can
do
amazing
things
with
bricks.
These
days
deep
window
reveals,
and
we
are
looking
at
a
high
quality
metallic
panel
for
for
window
opening.
F
So
briefly,
on
the
mix,
I
was
looking
at
the
timer,
which
I
don't
know
if
it
stopped
got
to
10
and
started
again.
I
think
it
did
a
glitch
halfway
through.
So
I
don't
know
where
I'm
up
to
it's
a
mix
of
one
two
and
three
bedroom
apartments,
as
I
said,
we're
fully
compliant
with
space
standards
and
we
meet
the
accessible
housing
standards
within
your
policy
for
part
m
four
one.
F
Two
and
three:
we
are
ten
percent
three
bed,
fifty
six
percent
two
beds
so
we're
predominantly
the
upper
end
of
the
the
larger
units,
400
units,
we're
100,
70
percent,
rather
cycle
provision.
F
F
Thank
you
and
then
we've
looked
at
potential
to
take
that
to
the
edges
of
the
footpaths
and
we're
aware
that
the
route
around
westgate
may
be
closed
off,
so
we're
looking
at
some
really
exciting
landscape
design
that
creates
really
permeable
routes
and
how
that
can
be
extended
to
create
a
really
green
edge
to
this
building.
So
your
arrival
is
not
just
the
building.
It's
the
landscaping
space
that
people
are
going
to
move
through.
F
A
Thank
you,
tim
open
up
to
members
for
questions.
B
Thank
you
for
that
presentation.
I've
got
I've
got
two
questions.
One
is,
I
think,
on
slide
35.
Can
you
help
me
dologies?
Is
that
where
we
were
standing
this
morning
on
the
ground
level
there
in
the
centre
of
the
picture,
is
that
where
we
were.
B
It's
slide:
35,
yes,
no
slightly
different.
Anyway.
The
question
is
the
the
area.
That's
currently
had
car
the
cars
parked
in
it
and
they
took
on
the
outside
of
the
red
line
surrounding
the
building.
We
did
feel
when
we
looked
at
it,
because
this
site
affords
very
little
opportunity
for
green
space,
that
it
was
pretty
important
that
you
worked
with
ourselves
on
highways
on
greening
that
bit
up
a
little
bit,
and
I
think
you
alluded
to
that
in
the
presentation.
B
I
I
completely
agree:
we've
been,
we've
been
working
with
your
highways
officers
with
your
region,
officers
about
westgate
in
particular,
and
that
there's
a
real
opportunity
here
to
to
really
enhance
that
part
of
the
city.
As
you
come
in,
it's
quite
a
barren
space,
it's
quite
a
hard
space.
It's
not
overly
pedestrian
friendly.
We've
obviously
got
the
intentions
with
the
council
part
of
the
cycle
super
highway
network
as
well.
So
I
think,
there's
some
real
opportunities.
Now.
I
We've
shown
kind
of
a
potential
super
idea
on
here,
which
I
know
christians
just
skimming
through
to
get
to
quite
quickly,
hopefully
is
at
the
end
our
landscaping
proposals,
but
but
yeah
we've
tabled
this
with
your
highways
officers,
your
landscape
officers
and
your
regen
team,
and
we
think
this
is
something
that
could
be
really
exciting
in
terms
of
that
pedestrian
arrival
point.
So
it's
beyond
that
yep
this
one
here.
So
all
of
a
sudden
we've
got
the
dedicated
cycle
network
linking
in
and
around
the
site.
I
B
Can
I
just
ask
who
would
maintain
that
with
it
being
outside
the
red
boundary,
it
depends
whether
it
will
be
stocked
up
as
highway
there'll,
be
very
various
mechanisms
that
it
could
be
deemed
to
still
be
highway
and
be
maintained
by
ourselves
or
it
could
be
stopped
up
and
and
maintained
by
the
developer,
but
that
could
be
by
you
know:
there'll
be
some
kind
of
legal
mechanism
or
license
to
do
that.
B
B
F
I
haven't
got
a
plan
up
there
at
the
minute,
but
ground
amenity
is
at
ground
of
the
first,
which
addresses
the
wellington
wellington
road
street.
Oh
brilliant!
Thank
you!
So
let's
go
back
one.
Can
we
go
back?
One
slide
so
yeah,
sorry,
so
the
ground
floor?
We've
got
this
perimeter
the
green
space
around
the
perimeter
which
you
can
see
on
here
and
then
the
the
lap,
the
the.
F
If
you
did
nothing
and
we
just
improve
the
footpaths
around
without
any
green
space.
We
get
the
sort
of
buff
space
wrapping
around
the
building.
The
principal
entrance
for
amenity
is
on
that
junction
of
proper
gate
where
the
the
road
sweeps
around
from
westgate
and
so
that
we've
got
our
steps
in
there.
There's
a
level
change
across
the
site
of
about
a
meter.
You
come
in
at
that
corner
point
which
is
sort
of
a
direct
connection
back
into
the
city
center
for
pedestrians
and
then
that
red
space
is
amenity
area.
F
I
describe
areas
of
quantums
of
space
in
terms
of
comparisons
with
numbers
of
costas,
because
we
all
get
how
big
a
costa
is.
So
this
amenity
space
is
something
like
two
and
a
half
costas
in
overall
area,
so
it's
quite
a
big
area
over
two
levels.
So
you
get
this
animated
corner
greeting
you
from
westgate
all
the
way
around
on
wellington
street.
F
What
we
then
have
is,
if
you
go
to
the
far
end
opposite
e-board
court,
there's
another
entrance
into
the
scheme
with
another
entrance
hall,
but
we're
assuming
that
most
residents,
when
they're
going
to
go
in
and
pick
up
anything
from
the
concierge
or
or
anything
we
use
the
red
area.
But
if
you
want
to
just
go
to
your
apartment
and
you're
at
that
end
of
the
building,
you'd
go
through
the
other
entrance,
that's
adjacent
to
eport
core,
then
in
between.
F
We
need
our
other
facilities.
We
have
commercial
sprinkler
tanks.
We
have
miss
tanks
for
sprinklers.
We
have
bins
what
I
didn't
touch
we
have
substations.
What
I
didn't
touch
on
is
the
build.
The
floor.
Level
has
been
set
at
a
level
that's
resilient
to
any
flood,
and
we
can't
put
any
immunity
space
that
that's
needed
for
emergency
operations
such
as
sprinklers
or
lifts
or
entrances,
or
anything
like
that
below
that
level.
So
that's
why
they
need
to
be
at
the
ground
floor.
F
That's
that
wraps
all
the
way
around
the
red
area,
and
then
we
will
look
to
maximize
any
opportunities
for
glazing
where
we
can
obviously
the
things
like
sprinkler,
tank
rooms
and
things.
You
know
you
don't
want
glazing
looking
in,
but
we're
going
to
break.
The
building
is
broken
up
at
those
levels
to
take
the
architectural
design
down
to
ground.
A
I
Yeah
absolutely
sure
it's
a
zero
car
parking
scheme
so
obviously
we're
all
aware
of
climate
emergency,
sustainable
location
and
the
kind
of
the
encouragement
to
get
people
out
of
use
of
the
private
motor
vehicle.
That's
not
to
say
that
we're
not
supporting
the
council
in
delivery
of
disabled
parking
in
the
vicinity
of
the
site
and
that's
a
conversation,
that's
ongoing
with
highways
and
our
highways
consultants.
At
the
moment.
A
I
think
we'd
like
to
see
a
bit
more
of
that
I
mean
clearly
there
will
be
disabled
people
living
in
this
building
and
connectivity
is
a
problem
that
you
know
that
they
do
will
they
will
need
a
car
to
get
about,
and
it's
something
that
you
really
you
need
to
reconsider.
I
think
before
it
comes
back
to
us.
I
Yeah
absolutely
absolutely
chair,
I
think
also,
we've
been
in
close
dialogue
with
the
landowner
next
door,
mclaren
as
well.
Obviously,
they've
got
some
plans
in
terms
of
what
they
can
do
with
their
sites
and
their
buildings.
So
I
think,
actually
it's
a
piece
of
a
jigsaw.
This
site,
obviously
which
then
follows
on
from
the
the
former
international
pool
development
as
well.
So
it's
a
it's
a
real
changing
and
emerging
and
part
of
the
west
end
of
the
city
centre.
I
think
I
would
call
it
so.
K
Well,
it's
different,
I
think
it
it
will
grow
on
one
once
you
get
used
to
it,
but
it
it
certainly
is
a
statement
piece
on
one
of
the
slides.
I
I
probably
should
have
pointed
this
out
at
questions
at
the
top
of
the
building,
there's
quite
a
blank
wall
where
there's
no
fenestration
but
around
the
corner.
K
F
I
think
that
that
side,
I
need
to
double
check.
It's
going
to
that.
Actually,
that
view
is
slightly
out
of
date.
There
are
windows
on
there
now
that
is
the
edge
of
an
apartment
on
the
upper
floor,
so
we
have
some
windows
wrapping
along
there.
Previously
it
was
a.
It
was
a
corridor
that
went
between
two
apartments,
so
apologies
there
should
be
some
windows
on
that
view,
so
that
will
be
broken
up.
K
K
F
K
F
Yeah,
the
the
the
the
building
has,
I
call
it
three
typical
floors
so
broadly
ground
to
10,
where
we
have
the
cut
through,
which
is
that
route
that
will
pass
underneath
the
building
has
an
arrangement
of
apartments
on
it
that
we
then
have
the
middle
section
and
then
the
top
section
that
middle
section
has
a
corner
window.
I
need
to.
I
need
to
check
whether
there's
an
opportunity
to
add
an
additional
window
in
there,
but
we
couldn't
run
the
line
of
windows
above
down
there.
F
We
have,
we
have
a
fairly
substantial
column,
because
that
cantilever
is
out
over
the
corner
with
that
canopy.
So
I
think
we
can
get
some
windows
in
there,
but
it
won't
be
a.
We
won't
continue
the
floor
plate
when
the
wide
window
from
above.
F
I
I
would
just
add
that
I
quite
like
I
think,
brickwork's
a
lovely
material
and
some
wider
areas
of
brickwork
are
not
a
problem
and
we're
looking
at
doing
like.
I
said,
a
really
interesting
brick
blend,
so
we
want
to
get
something.
That's
got
some
reference
to
the
history
of
of
leads
in
terms
of
its
color
and
texture,
but
I
don't
know
if
you've
seen
all
these
brick
blends,
where
you
can,
we
can
match
various
bricks
to
corrupt,
provide
sort
of
quite
a
textured
finish.
A
F
Sorry,
I
think
there
was
a
request
about
a
week
ago
for
some
samples
and
we're
we're
spending.
You
know
this.
Is
this
building's
predominantly
brickwork,
so
we
need
to
get
that
brickwork
right.
I've
bought
a
brick
blend
with
me,
which
isn't
the
brick
that
I'm
proposing
to
use,
but
I've
also
bought
where
we
have
the
large
window.
Openings
we've
got
a
double
window
and
then
a
panel
next
to
it
we're
looking
to
put
a
polished
metal
vent
panel
in
there,
which
is
quite
reflective
and
we're
looking
for
quite
an
earthy
anodized
color.
F
A
A
And
I've
got
council
of
also
next.
H
H
I
think
there's
a
lot
here
to
commence,
especially
there's
a
lot
of
attention
to
detail
as
well.
So
I
think
this
is
a
pretty
positive
pre-op.
Really
I
like
the
access
way
through.
That's
a
nice
touch,
the
shape
the
structure,
how
it
aligns
the
various
elevations
are
provided.
Give
me
a
lot
of
trust
and
confidence.
This
is
going
to
be
a
good
proposal
when
it
comes
to
fruition.
I
don't
know
knocking
apart.
No
parking
spaces
is
bulb,
but
I
think
it
is
a
really
sustainable
location.
H
If
you're
going
to
go
no
parking
spaces,
this
is
a
place
to
try
it
certainly
so
yeah.
This
is
really
positive,
provided
the.
If
the
the
surface
boundary
treatments
can
be
got
right,
the
the
cycle
provision
that
kind
of
thing
all
that
detail
that's
coming
that
can
be
got
right.
I
think
it
could
be
really
positive,
chair
so
yeah
happy
to
be
very
positive
about
this.
One.
A
G
Yes,
I
I
like
this
development.
I
think
there
needs
to
be
something
on
that
site
and
this
looks
good
to
me.
I
think
that
looking
at
the
expanses
of
brickwork,
I'm
also
thinking
about
the
experience
of
the
people
who
are
living
inside,
not
just
how
it
looks
from
the
outside.
But
I
take
your
point.
I
like
the
fact
you've
gone
into
safety
and
security
quite
a
lot
and
the
biodiversity
is
probably
about
as
good
as
you
can
get
in
such
a
harsh
environment,
surrounded
by
roads.
G
But
that's
not
your
fault,
and
I
think
that
it
would
be
nice
to
see
a
bit
more
about
diversity
and
green
walls
and
green
roofs
and
so
on
when
it
comes
to
full
panel.
But
on
the
whole.
Yes,
it's
okay.
L
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I'm
rather
sorry
I
won't
be
here
to
see
this
one
go
through
because
I'm
sure
it
will
go
through.
L
Not
totally
literally
there,
no,
I
do
I
do
like
this
and
I
I
do
hope
that
you'll
resist
any
temptation.
It
might
be
to
sort
of
do
what
what
some
counsellors
ask
and
put
more
windows
in
you
know.
If
you
get
total
symmetry,
you
can
kill
a
design
totally
so
resist
that
I
think
you've
got
a
nice
building
here.
I
think
one
thing
that
hasn't
been
mentioned
at
all
and
I
didn't.
L
M
Well,
council,
what
is
stolen?
My
my
first
comment,
which
was
around:
do
we
want
the
windows
to
run
all
the
way
down
or
does
that
break?
Well,
I
know
I
know
you're
yes,
but
I
was
wondering
what
the
rest
of
the
panels
are
to
run
it
all
the
way
down.
My
view
is
that
we
do
want
some
open
brickwork
and
the
symmetry
is
not
always
what
I
want,
but
I
was
actually
going
to
ask
the
developer
when
I
looked
at
the
bricks
chair,
but
you
brought
me
back
just
to
the
point.
M
I
was
gonna
ask
this
the
shiny
brick.
Putting
that
in
randomly
does
that
give
you
a
shimmering
effect,
because
they,
the
photographs
that
we
see
does
make
it
look
as
if
it's
shimmering
is
that
is
that
your?
Is
that
your
intention
of
it
and
does
putting
a
shiny
brick
in
randomly
give
that
effect
to
the
eye,
because
obviously
you're
not
going
to
put
that
in
every
brick
or
is
that
part
of
the
blend
that
you're
getting
to.
F
You
only
put
the
glaze
brick
in
obviously
in
a
random
pattern.
The
the
the
effect
is
more
of
one
that
you
see
from
a
distance
that
you
just
don't
have
this
constant
blend
of
one
color,
so
you
get
more
texture
to
it.
I
can
get
some
photos
of
the
project
we've
completed
with
this,
with
a
similar
sort
of
blend
with
a
black
brick
in
it.
When
you
say
shimmering,
I'm
not,
I'm
I'm
not
fully
clear.
Obviously
the
bricks
won't
be
shimmering.
There'll
only
be
one
gloss,
brick
in
let's
say
every
50.
M
I
think
a
lot
a
lot
of
the
brick
effect
is
very
matte,
isn't
it
that
we
see
yeah
and,
and
that
looked
on
the
on
the
pictures
it
was
going
to
be
a
more
smoother
shinier
type
of
texture
which
I
like
and-
and
that
was
that
was
my
comment.
Is
it
going
to
be
like
that?
Does
that
does
the
does?
This?
Does
the
gloss
brick
every
so
often
give
that
to
the
eye
over
a
distance.
F
I
think
it
does,
but
it
won't
make
the
whole
thing
clearly
look
glossy
and
I
I
mean
I'm
a
fan-
I'm
not
a
fan
of
smooth
bricks
personally
but
the
because
I
think
they
give
a
very
monochromatic
colour
to
to
brickwork.
I
like
to
see.
Excuse
me,
I
like
to
see
the
texture
and
that's
what
I
think
we
can
generate,
but
the
brick
choice
can
will
clearly
come
down,
I'm
assuming
to
a
planning
condition
that
we
present
and
we'll
present
full
panels.
M
It's
besides
that
chair,
I
like
it
and
that's
been
one
of
the
people
that
comes
in
from
the
west
of
the
city,
we're
the
ones
we're
going
to
see
it
as
a
gateway
building,
and
sometimes
I
come
into
the
sat
from
the
south
of
the
city
and
bridgewater
place
is
the
gateway
building.
I
assume
you
are
trying
to
replicate
that
that
view
as
you
come
in
from
the
west,
so,
but
not
without
the
building
but
the
but
there's
the
statement.
The
other
thing
is
with
the
disabled
parking.
M
I
think
the
developer
did
say
was
working
with
the
council.
He
can
only
work
with
the
council.
I
didn't
know
whether
the
highways
officer
wanted
to
comment
on
the
disabled
parking
mister,
whether
you
thought
that
was
achievable,
because
I
think
we
do
need
some
disabled
packing.
I'm
happy
with
council,
while
she'll
say
no
parking,
because
it's
city
centre
location,
I'm
happy
with
that,
but
I
think
we
do
have
to.
We
get
criticized
a
lot
of
criticism.
I
get
from
my
residents
generally
there's
not
enough
disabled
parking
in
the
city.
M
It's
always
full,
and
I
think
that
for
disabled
residents
is
going
to
be
a
big
thing
if
there
isn't
sufficient.
So
I
just
wonder
whether
she
had
a
comment
or
not.
B
Thank
you.
Yes,
I
mean
there's
a
difference
between
on-street
disabled
parking.
The
visitors
into
the
city
would
use
in
residential
disabled
parking.
We
wouldn't
usually
have
one
street
and
disabled
parking
for
residential
use,
but
we
we
do
think
there
may
be
an
opportunity
to
you
know
to
work
with
the
developer,
to
identify
some
space
within
because
we're
we're
taking
we're
going
to
take
out
the
sort
of
the
the
road
running
around
the
building.
You
know
we
potentially
have
some
space.
B
So
I'm
hopeful
that
there
is
a
you
know,
there's
an
opportunity
we
can
provide
some
just
also
to
add
in
our
draft
transport
spd,
which
is
out
for
pre-adoption
consultation,
the
you
know
we
we
are
requiring
in
our
policy
disabled
parking
for
car
free
developments
where
there's
no
other
general
parking,
and
that
is
a
change
from
the
previous
policy.
J
Thanks
chair,
I
think
I
I
agree
mostly
what
with
what
everyone
said
so
far,
but
I'd
like
to
see
a
bit
more
regard
given
to
how
residents
will
get
to
green
space
on
foot.
J
So
when
it
comes
back
like
just
have
a
think
about
where
all
the
green
space
is
and
like
what
what
that
journey
would
be,
I
suppose,
and
whether
whether
any
of
those
routes
need
any
improvement.
Thank
you.
B
Well,
I
just
want
to
echo
what
people
have
said
about
the
size
and
form
of
the
of
the
building.
I
very
much
welcome
it
and
I
think
it's
a
very
inventive
use
of
the
space
that
you
had
available
and
I
think
the
building
echoes
the
the
shape
of
the
land
very
well,
and
I
think
it's
got
all
the
makings
of
being
a
landmark.
B
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
all
that.
Just
my
comments
really
is
the
road
and
I
know
it's
not
in
the
red
line,
but
it's
looking
at
highways
here
and
the
slide
you
showed
towards
the
end,
which
is
not
part
of
at
the
moment,
looked
very
attractive
and
indeed
provided
a
lot
more
green
space
and
a
lot
more
interest,
just
as
council
brooke
has
indicated
and
needed,
so
I'd,
I'd,
hope
somehow
or
other
that
highways
and
yourself
can
come
together
and
produce.
Something
like
that.
A
I
understand
that
it's
not
in
your
control,
but
it's
a
sterile
road
that
goes
nowhere
and
it
seems
to
be
all
there
is-
is
tarmac
and
parking
which
you
know
you
you've
gone
and
made
a
very
convincing
case
that
we
don't
need
parking
in
this
area,
we're
very
close
to
all
the
facilities
in
town.
Well,
I'm
sure
we
don't
need
a
line
of
10
or
12
cars
that
I
don't
know
who
would
belong
so
it
must
be
highways,
but
it'd
be
much
better
if
we
had
some
type
of
landscaping.
A
A
Next
question:
do
members
consider
that
the
emerging
approach
to
a
landscape
in
a
public
realm
is
acceptable?
Well,
I
think
we
could
do
better
on
that.
You
know
with
cooperation
with
highways,
but
in
general,
yes,
it's
a
limited
spotlight.
Our
members
are
green.
What
any
opinions
okay
and
do
members
support
the
approach
to
a
car
free
development
subject
to
no
adverse
impact
on
highways
being
demonstrated.
A
Yeah,
I
think
that
sums
her
up
and
it
isn't
part
of
the
questions.
But
clearly
there
is
an
issue
about
housing
mix
has
been
raised
before
here.
Are
members
happy
with
the
proposed
housing
mix.
A
J
I
would
always
like
to
see
more
three
beds,
but
I
mean
you
know
if
we
could
get
up
to
20
I'd,
be
delighted.
A
I
Thank
you
totally
appreciate
the
position.
I
think
I
was
here
at
the
january
plans
panel
meeting.
I
always
refer
to
it
as
the
the
free
trade
hall
event.
If
you
get
the
the
music
reference
over
in
manchester,
when
certain
people
said
that
they
were
there,
but
when
policy
moved
on-
and
rightly
so-
I
think
in
our
view-
and
so
the
client
is
keen
and
committed
to
delivering
10
on
here,
and
we
will
obviously
of
course
look
at
it.
I
We
are
continuing
to
work
on
the
scheme
and
evolve
on
that
as
well.
I
think,
from
our
perspective
as
well,
we
we
probably,
I
think
it
was
a
comment
you
made
councillor,
brooks
at
the
last
plans
panel
meeting,
that
there
are
some
sites
in
the
city
that
could
deliver
more
three-bed
housing,
given
proximity
to
green
space,
the
canal,
the
towpath,
but
also
the
local
primary
schools
are
in
the
area
as
well,
and
the
emerging
schools
are
coming
forward,
so
yeah
completely
live
to
it
and
we'll
have
to
do
a
housing
market
needs
assessment.
I
Anyway,
I
think
tim
tim
will
be
asking
me
for
that.
That
report
to
a
company
application
and
I
think
from
our
point
of
view,
we
feel
that
10
is
kind
of
the
right
amount
in
this
location
given
where
it
is
on
the
in
the
city
centre
close
to
the
close
to
the
station.
But
I
think
ultimately,
we'll
continue
to
kind
of
evolve.
A
Thank
you
for
that
response,
tom,
and,
can
I
say,
you've
done
an
excellent
job
of
designing
the
building
we've
looked.
Some
of
us
today
walked
around
that.
We
can
see
why
you've
come
to
that
shape.
It's
very
imaginative
and
it
fits
in
beautiful
it
is.
It
is
a
building
if
it's
completed
as
on
plans,
it's
something
that
leads
canon
should
be
proud
of.
So
let's
hope
it
does
develop
and
come
out
to
look
even
better
than
it
is
on
paper.
But
thank
you
for
that,
and
can
I
wish
you
good
afternoon.
A
Hey
members,
we're
waiting
for
the
applicants
and
the
clients
to
come
so
they're
on
the
way,
so
it
seems
like
we
will
are
they
here?
Are
they
no?
No,
no,
no
they're,
sure,
okay,
so
a
break
might
be
advisable.
Please
have
a
cup
of
tea.
A
We're
live,
okay,
moving
on
then
agenda
item
number
nine
pre-op.
I
will
ask
the
developers
to
introduce
in
a
minute,
but
in
the
meantime
a
few
words
from
belgium.
D
Thank
you,
chair
I'll,
keep
it
brief.
The
the
applicant
developer
and
their
team
will
we'll
take
you
through
the
details
very
shortly.
I
just
want
to
remind
members
that
the
the
the
form
yorkshire,
pulse
site
has
had
previous
planning
permission,
and
that
was
part
implemented.
That
was
for
a
mixed-use
scheme
of
residential
and
office
development
and
for
those
members
that
were
on
site
they've
noticed
that
the
residential
building
has
been
delivered,
but
the
the
office
buildings
have
not,
and
and
and
since
that
consent
was
granted.
D
Those
offices
that
the
office
approvals
have
now
fallen
away.
The
site
has
now
been
acquired
by
the
the
the
current
developers
who
have
come
forward
with
a
a
residential
scheme,
so
it's
a
different
use,
but
but
it's
it's
something
that
we're
supportive
of
as
officers
and
and
I
think
from
from
the
previous
presentation
and
from
the
presentations
on
the
former
international
pool
site.
This
area
is
changing,
so
it's
within
that
context.
I
would
like
you
to
consider
the
proposals
that
are
about
to
be
presented
to
you.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
Well,
thank
you
darjit.
Can
I
wish
you
all
good
afternoon
and
we've
seen
each
of
them
any
time
you.
You
will
know
that
you
have
up
to
10
minutes
to
present,
but
I
often
let
you
have
a
few
minutes
extra
if
it's
worth
listening
to
and
I'm
sure
it
will
be
so
when
you're
ready.
Please
make
start
your
presentation
and
if
you
would,
if
you'd
introduce
speakers
one
at
a
time
when
they
come
on.
Thank
you.
N
My
name
is
tim
waring
quad,
we're
the
planning
advisors
to
overnight
and,
as
you
may
recollect,
I've
been
the
planning
advisors
on
this
site
for
quite
a
few
years
now,
today,
I'm
going
to
pass
over
to
sue
from
dla
who's
going
to
talk
you
through
the
scheme,
I'm
here
to
answer,
questions
on
planning
aspects
who
can
answer
schemes
on
architecture
and
design,
and
we've
got
terry
shaw
as
well
from
the
developers
who's
here
to
answer
any
operator
related
questions
so
I'll
pass
straight
over
to
sue
and
she'll
talk
you
through
the
the
proposals.
C
C
Since
its
inception,
the
site
we've
looked
at
maximizing
the
place
making
and
public
realm.
We
have
approximately
two-thirds
of
the
site
given
over
to
public
realm.
The
scheme
is
operator-led
and
deliverable,
subject
to
the
positive
outcome
of
the
planning
process,
we'd
like
to
be
on
site
in
early
2023.
C
This
the
scheme
will
meet
the
the
differing
housing
needs
of
leeds
it's
designed
to
lead
standards
in
terms
of
the
draft
co-living
in
terms
of
the
sustainability
policies,
but
also
in
terms
of
the
nationally
described
space
standards
as
a
practice.
We're
committed
to
riba
2030
climate
challenge,
so
sustainability
has
been
embodied
since
the
start
of
the
project
and
a
key
part
to
us
is
making
sure
the
scheme
is
designed
for
future
adaptability
to
respond
to
changing
needs.
C
C
C
The
building
front
to
the
left,
which
fronts
onto
wellington
street
is
building
a
which
is
40
stories
and
designed
as
purpose-built
student
accommodation
in
the
middle.
We
have
building
b,
which
is
30
stories
and
designed
as
purpose-built
student
accommodation
and
the
building
front
in
the
river
is
built
in
c,
which
is
25
storeys
and
designed
as
built
to
rent
we've
been
working
with
planning
officers
and
design
officers
for
over
six
months.
C
C
We
then
show
on
the
next
slide,
just
one
example
of
the
assessment
that
we've
undertaken
on
all
of
those
historic
views.
This
obviously
covers
the
existing
context.
Our
scheme,
within
that
existing
context
on
the
bottom
left
and
then
our
scheme
in
the
cumulative,
the
evolving
context
on
the
bottom
right.
C
So
on
the
next
next
slide,
we
start
to
introduce
the
master
plan.
As
I
said
earlier,
the
site
we
are
looking
at
approximately
two
thirds
of
the
site
given
over
to
high
quality
public
realm.
At
the
heart
of
the
scheme.
We
look
to
complete
the
public
square
which
sits
between
the
headline
building
and
building
a
that
public
square.
C
Then
links
through
to
the
river
park
and
the
riverside
walk
we're
proposing
to
integrate
active
play
within
both
of
those
spaces
for
both
adults
and
children
in
terms
of
urban
wellness
in
the
bottom
left
hand,
corner
we're
looking
to
introduce
a
micro
forest
which
I'll
come
on
to
later
and
then
fronting
onto
wellington.
Bridge
street
we've
got
two
public
art
structures.
C
One
of
those
public
art
structures
will
be
the
reinvented
yorkshire
post
tower.
The
idea
of
that
structure
is,
it
helps
deal
with
the
microclimate
we're
on
the
southwesterly
winds,
but
also
allows
the
ability
for
us
to
relocate
the
temperature
and
clock
gauge
from
the
existing
tower,
which
is
seen
by
many
as
a
city
icon
for
leeds
and
then
just
on
the
corner.
On
wellington
street
on
wellington,
bridge
street
we've
introduced
biophilic
structures
which
I'll
come
on
to
later.
Those
biophilic
structures
are
designed
to
deal
with
microclimate,
but
also
have
a
reference
to
nature.
C
C
C
There
are
always
other
areas,
such
as
back
of
house
in
terms
of
refusing
cycles
and
plan,
but
we're
ensuring
that
we
have
natural
surveillance
over
those
key
routes
and
the
riverside
then
onto
the
design
narrative.
A
key
driver
for
our
scheme
has
been
the
site
history,
originally
a
woolen
mill
and
latterly
a
paper
mill
as
in
the
terms
of
the
yorkshire
post.
We
illustrate
a
few
precedent
images
of
the
manufacturing
process
on
screen
how
the
printing
presses
had
the
folds
and
weaves
we're
looking
to
bring
through
in
the
facade
and
both
in
the
public
realm.
C
Well,
we've
also
been
keen,
since
the
start
of
the
project
that
the
material
palette
responds
to
leads
in
terms
of
the
red
terracotta
which
I'll
come
on
to
on
the
next
slide
in
the
top
left.
We're
illustrating
the
color
palette.
There's
some
examples
for
members
here
in
terms
of
materials
to
look
at
we're.
C
C
On
screen
now,
we
just
have
some
concept
elevations.
They
are
quite
early
stage,
but
we've
been
working
with
officers
on
the
proportion
of
the
towers.
The
scheme
is
designed
as
a
family
of
units
and
they
have
a
subtle
reference
in
terms
of
color
to
one
another.
So
this
illustrates
to
members
just
where
we
are
in
terms
of
that
evolving
design.
C
The
images
on
the
left
hand
side
give
an
idea
of
the
color
tone
and
detail
on
building
a
building
b
in
the
middle
and
building
c
in
the
bottom
left
and
then
on
the
right
of
the
screen
for
members.
We've
just
illustrated
how
that
appears
in
terms
of
a
4-bay
height,
we
have
integrated
a
perforator
panel
within
that
facade,
we're
designing
the
scheme
so
that
people
have
the
ability
to
open
windows.
C
C
So
in
terms
of
connectivity,
the
scheme
will
deliver
a
major
piece
of
infrastructure
in
terms
of
the
riverside
walk
at
the
moment.
It's
not
possible
to
connect
under
the
bridge
to
our
east,
but
it
facilitates
the
connection
back
to
coastal
road
and
then
through
once
we've
broken
through
to
the
mepc
site.
As
that
site
comes
forward.
C
C
C
C
C
So
then,
on
the
next
slide.
These
are
very
preliminary
views
of
the
landscape.
Just
to
give
members
an
idea
of
how
the
river
park,
which
is
in
the
top
image,
and
how
the
riverside
walk,
which
is
in
the
bottom
image
to
the
left,
will
feel.
We've
knocked
the
buildings
back
to
white
because
it
is
a
conceptual
model,
but
we
were
keen
to
give
id
an
idea
to
members
of
how
those
public
spaces
were
evolving.
C
C
C
C
So
we're
on
the
micro
forest,
the
micro
forest,
that's
located
in
the
southwest
corner
of
the
site,
is,
is
designed
to
establish
over
a
20-year
period.
The
micro
forest
can
be
established
in
an
area
as
small
as
100
meters
squared
they
have
the
benefit
of
enhanced
biodiversity
in
providing
increased
oxygen
levels
within
an
urban
environment.
C
Carbon
sequestering
benefit,
obviously
we're
right
next
to
the
ring
road
in
terms
of
storm.
Water
management
obviously
is
in
terms
of
suds,
improved
acoustics
again
because
we're
fronting
onto
the
rim
road
and
helping
mitigate
the
urban
heat
island
and
we're
committed
to
delivering
the
micro
forest
next
slide.
Please.
A
Thank
you.
So
I
certainly
didn't
want
to
stop
you,
because
I
wanted
to
hear
more
about
the
minecraft
forest
and
I'm
sure
you'll
have
questions
on
that.
Can
we
invite
questions
from
members
neil.
C
C
M
I
mean
it's
in
the
most
polluting
part
of
the
of
the
site.
The
top
of
that
slip
road
is
where
is
where
there
is
the
most
congestion
from
people
who
don't
know
what
it's
like
to
be
in,
so
how
much
carbon
will
it
take
up?
And
secondly,
you
say
it's
zero
management.
After
three
years
we
we
had
a
bit
of
a
conversation
yesterday
in
full
council
about
things
like
the
dark
woods
where
this
gets
out
of
hand
and
hasn't
been
maintained
in
certain
areas
of
the
city.
M
C
I'll
come
on
to
the
carbon
saving
first,
and
I
because
I
can't
quite
go
from
memory.
I've
got
them
in
front
of
me
the
figures
the
consultant's
given
us.
Obviously,
the
full
establishment
of
the
micro
forest
is
over
a
20
year
period,
but
over
over
10
years,
we'll
have
based
on
a
400
meter
square
350
to
400
meter
squared
area
of
micro
forest
which
we're
proposing
on
our
site.
C
When
we
come
into
the
particulate
matter
in
terms
of
air
quality,
there's
a
2.5
kilogram
saving
the
micro
forest
also
because
of
the
different
species
of
tree,
obviously
plays
to
enhancement
in
terms
of
insects,
so
it
actually
creates
a
home
for
over
500
different
insects
within
that
woodland,
but
also
animals
as
well.
In
terms
of
that,
the
structure
of
the
micro
forest
itself,
the
consultant
has
advised
it
because
forests
have
designed
forests
happen,
they
can
be
managed,
but
they
can
happen.
C
Naturally,
the
idea
is
that
there's
a
shrub
there
at
the
low
level
there's
a
subtree
layer,
because
it's
all
about
different
canopy
heights
to
ensure
that
they
do
thrive
and
that
they
will
work
together,
there's
the
tree
layer
and
then
there's
a
canopy
layer.
So
if
we
went
back
to
the
slide
on
the
micro
forest,
there's
a
diagram
on
that
slide
which
hopefully
might
help
members
there,
we
go
in
the
middle
at
the
bottom,
there's
a
diagram
that
indicates
that
the
strategy
in
terms
of
those
different
species
of
tree
again
this
is
an
early.
C
There
are
examples
of
the
micro
forest
in
the
uk
in
the
bottom
left.
You
will
see
an
example
of
a
micro
forest.
That's
been
planted
in
london
and
I
think
a
key
part
of
this
is
leads
could
have
this
as
a
an
exemplar
in
terms
of
what
others
should
be
doing
in
urban
environments.
C
We
are
obviously
we're
engaged
with
a
consultant
about
the
detail
because
we've
not
directly
implemented
a
micro
forest
before,
but
we're
committed
to
actually
taking
this
idea
forward
and
we
can
see
a
lot
of
benefit
so
the
tests
will
be.
They
have
tested
the
program
in
terms
of
zero
maintenance.
The
test
will
be
our
situation,
but
what
we've
been
told
by
the
consultants
is
they
will
look
at
shrubs
and
trees
within
a
certain
radius
of
the
site
and
see
what
thrives
well
and
what
works
to
establish
the
specific
planting
plan
for
our
site.
N
M
Where
in
london
is
that
and
I'll
take
a
look
and
second
and
secondly,
what
stops
the
the
lower
species
being
crowded
out
by
the
canopies
of
the
higher
stuff,
because
in
a
natural
forest?
That's
that's
what
would
happen
and
what
excavations
are
you
gonna
have
to
do
to
establish
it
because
you've
got
no.
M
I
guess
no
soil
there,
because
it
was
the
previous
print
works
and
what
you
need
to
do
is
get
a
good
establishment
for
particularly
the
torah
species,
to
expand
their
roots
and
get
their
water,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
street
trees,
particularly
in
the
city
that
don't
have
the
right
excavations
and
don't
thrive,
particularly
well.
I
think
liz
would
agree.
C
Well
the
example
in
the
bottom
left
is
the
forest
for
change
as
part
of
the
london
design
biennial.
We
can
obviously
provide
members
with
a
specific
location
if
you
did
want
to
go
and
view
it.
I
mean
we'd
love
to
visit
it.
We
haven't
yet
but
we'd
love
to
see
how
it's
actually
worked
in
terms
of
the
soil.
Yes,
they
do
import,
there's
a
specific,
growing
medium
and
I
have
to
say
this
is
not
my
specialist
area
we
are
in
bet.
A
David,
I
said
it's
so
much
a
house
and
on
the,
if
you
okay,
can
I
will
your
permission,
bring
liz
in
here
it's
about
trees
and
then
paul's,
more
or
less
introduced,
and
then
I'll
come
back
to
the
list.
I've
got
in
in
front
of
me:
okay,
liz.
K
Right,
well,
it's
a
very
nice
idea,
but
I
I
can
see
problems
there,
somerset
house,
I
don't
see
any
major
roads
running
past
it
and
some
tree
species,
as
you
know,
are
not
tolerant
to
traffic
pollution
oak,
especially
and
the
number
of
times
I've
seen
applications
for
oak
trees
or
for
field
maples,
which
will
just
not
survive.
K
Having
said
and
and
this
site
is
immediately
adjacent
to,
what
do
you
call
it
not
wellington
place
it
they
that
the
road
that
goes
over
the
bridge
and
leads
to
the
gyratory
I
mean
that
is
very
heavily
trafficked.
K
C
The
example
I've
been
given
by
the
consultant
is
just
an
example
as
it
stands,
because
they
have
actually
got
an
oak
and
field
maple,
but
it
is
an
example.
What
they've
told
us?
We
actually
met
them
on
site
last
monday
and
that's
where
they
would
look
at
areas
where
existing
trees
are
close
to
roads
to
see
what
does
actually
thrive.
I'm
relying
on
their
expertise
in
this
implementation,
but
obviously
it
is
something
that
they
wouldn't
be
promoting
if
they
couldn't
get
the
specific
species
to
work
and
the
test
is
the
microclimate
locally.
C
Both
traffic
water,
urban
environment
and
they'll
they'll
write
a
specific
species
of
tree
to
suit
our
site
around
that.
I'm
quite
happy
to
share
this
with
councillor
nash,
just
as
the
example.
O
The
parking
spaces
that
you've
got
first,
so
there's
16
spaces,
so
I'm
happy
with
no
spaces
being
available
for
the
student
one,
I'm
pretty
happy
with
no
spaces
being
available
for
for
the
for
any
residents
that
don't
need
a
space
in
the
residential
apartment.
O
I'm
assuming
then,
in
some
way
that
they're
going
to
be
a
mix
of
maybe
visitor
or
disabled
parking,
and
I
was
just
wondering
how
we
how
they
would
be
managed
because
of
that
the
only
people
that
will
need
cars
are
those
that
may
need
them
due
to
a
disability
or
visitors
to
the
site.
The
other
question
I'm
guessing
kaylee-
might
come
into
this
as
well.
O
We've
only
got
it
it's
good
to
see
more
than
50
two
beds,
because
that
that
gives
us
a
good
housing
mix,
but
I
think
the
numbers
on
the
three
bed
at
seven
percent
are
lower
than
we'd
like
to
see
in
this
kind
of
area.
We
are
a
bit
closer
to
the
city,
but
really
our
target
is
a
minimum
of
20.
So
we're
happy
to
to
give
some
leeway,
but
not
quite
that
much
in
all
the
the
last
point
I
have.
O
I
see
that
on
building
a
you've
got
mostly
clusters,
but
building
b,
there's
quite
a
large
number
of
studio
apartments.
I'm
always
a
bit
worried
about
the
studio,
apartments
and
students
living
on
their
own
in
that
environment,
especially
when
they
might
be
new
to
the
city.
So
I
just
wondered
around
the
explanation
for
that.
I
think
we
have
a
worry
that
that's
a
lot
of
people
living
on
their
own,
not
necessarily
seeing
people
every
day
and
why
we
feel
students
might
be
preferring
that
than
the
clusters.
A
N
Thank
you,
councillor
hill
I'll.
Let
so
answer
the
latter
two
points
I
think,
just
on
the
car
parking
issue.
The
intention
would
be
that
this
would
be
a
managed
building,
so
a
managed
bill
to
rent
scheme
in
much
the
same
way
as
the
headline
building
is
managed
by
granger
and
it's
fair
to
say,
subject
to
today's
pre-app
views
from
your
cells,
we
have
three
very
keen
built
rent
operators
who
wish
to
take
the
building
assuming
that
today
goes
well,
so
obviously
not
all
three
of
them.
N
One
of
them
will
take
it,
but
they
will
manage
the
the
block
in
the
same
way
as
going
to
do
theirs
and
granger.
As
you
may
recollect
has
got
car
parking
provision
which
is
less
than
one
per
unit
which
is
fairly
standard.
These
days
around
the
city
and
obviously
down
to
zero
parking,
it
will
be
managed.
N
We'd
expect
your
council
to
impose
some
form
of
management
regime
condition
on
the
planning
consent,
and
it
will
be
primarily
for
either
falloccated
to
specific
or
sorry
specific
occupants
and
disabled
are
they
all
the
disabled
will
hit
your
council
standards
for
for
disabled
provision
I'll
pass
over
to
sue
in
relation
to
to
the
the
unit
sizes
and
the
studio
apartments
in
the
student.
C
Thank
you
tim.
I
know
I'm
wondering
about
the
benefit
of
youtube
at
the
moment,
but
I
can
pass
this
round
members.
Hopefully
everybody
can
see
on
the
question
about
flexibility
because
we're
more
than
aware
of
the
the
look
towards
providing
more
three
beds
and
attracting
more
families
into
the
city,
which
is
a
key
part
of
any
design.
Our
part,
as
architects
is
looking
at
design
and
inflexibility.
C
C
Obviously
they
want
to
attract
people
to
live
in
these
spaces
as
well,
so
they
can
introduce
additional
work
to
actually
provide
for
more
families
and,
as
members
have
said
at
the
moment
generally,
I
think
the
target
is
10,
but
there
may
be
30
of
families
living
in
leeds
in
30
or
40
years
time.
We
want
this
scheme
to
be
adaptable
to
respond
to
those
needs.
C
I'm
happy
to
pass
this
board
round
if
members
would
like
to
have
a
further
look,
but
hopefully
that
starts
to
address
the
question
about
flexibility
and
accommodating
those
three
bed
units.
C
So,
regarding
studios
in
terms
of
building
a
we've
got
65
studios
in
building
a
and
we've
got
a
thousand
cluster
beds
in
building
b,
we've
got
55
studios
and
we've
got
494
cluster
beds.
We
are
a
cluster
bed
led
the
report's
wrong.
I
think
that
that's
where
I
was
just
it's
the
other
way
around
yeah.
O
C
O
Yeah
thanks,
so
the
point
of
7.1.7,
then
is:
it
is
just
the
wrong
way
around
in
the
report,
so
it
should
say
494
cluster
beds
and
55
studios,
which
is
a
pretty
good
percentage.
I'm
very
happy
with
that.
I
guess
that
was
really
useful
in
terms
of
the
the
two
layouts,
because,
obviously
then
you
could
add
a
new
wall
at
any
point
and
then
let
that
out
to
a
family
with
two
children
or
three
people
sharing,
if,
if
they
so
wished,
I
guess
the
opposite
being.
You
could
also
remove
that
wall
at
any
time.
O
Am
I
guessing
on
this
scheme
that
you've
got
seven
percent
of
them?
Therefore,
there?
Where,
where
that
would
be
a
permanent
wall?
And
we
wouldn't
be
expecting
you
to
go
below
that
at
any
time
and
rent
them
as
two
beds,
for
instance,
you'd
always
be
renting
them
as
three
beds,
but
you
would
have
the
capability
that
if
somebody
that
needed
three
bedrooms
came
in,
you
would
be
able
to
adapt
that
for
them.
Okay,.
N
O
Thank
you.
I
think
that's
a
really
interesting
and
innovative
way
to
allow
it
through
and
to
allow
that
growth.
I
guess
that's
just
something
for
us
to
consider
that.
Obviously
we
would
want
10
to
be
in
there
now.
You
would
be
able
to
gain
that
if
the
audience
was
there,
but
that
that
does
then
depend.
O
I
guess-
and
this
is
the
point
for
officers
really
on
how
that's
marketed,
because
it
could
you
could,
with
all
the
best
intentions
market,
that
as
three
bedrooms
or
with
with
intentions
different,
you
could
market
it
as
just
two
bedroom
properties,
and
so
that's
something
maybe
to
consider
in
some
of
the
agreements
of
of
how
that
would
have
to
be
marketed
and
see
whether
it
could
be.
We
could
ensure
that
that
option
of
a
three
bed
was
there
for
people
that
wanted
to
come
through.
D
I
think
the
idea
of
adaptability
going
forward
is
actually
a
very
creative,
very
good
idea.
The
only
thing
I
would
advise
members
is
that
we
need
the
space
from
the
start,
to
be
able
to
then
ensure
that
if,
if
a
two
bed
unit
becomes
a
three
bed
unit,
it
still
meets
our
space
standards
because
space
standards
is
is
based
on
occupancy.
L
O
Yeah
and-
and
they
were
yeah,
so
it's
quite
far
so
they're
as
far
as
I'm
understanding
it,
the
two
beds
will
be
built
to
the
three
bed
space
standard
size
within
the
particular
scheme
and
therefore,
when
we
would
normally
be
requesting
that
10,
I'm
quite
happy.
O
Personally,
I
don't
know
what
others
think
to
allow
lower
than
that.
As
long
as
we
know
that
within
the
marketing
of
the
scheme,
they
will
be
the
that
offer
for
three
beds,
because
obviously
the
agent
could
go
away
and
then
market
it
purely
as
two
red
departments.
Without
then
that
flexibility
being
available.
H
Look
at
the
building
b,
so
some
reservations
about
the
color,
but
not
the
design.
So
when
this
comes
for
a
full
application,
if
there
could
be
accurate
samples,
that'd
be
really
helpful
for
members,
I
think.
Oh
do
you
know
I
was
I
was
so
taken
by
councillor.
Garthwaite
broke
your
model,
I
didn't
notice.
H
No
most
okay,
so
I
will.
I
will
look
at
the
samples
thanks
for
that.
Obviously,
when
it
comes
forward
to
a
full
application,
you
want
to
see
a
very
strong
story
regarding
carbon
and
renewables.
It's
really
important
to
as
a
city.
You
know
the
local
plan,
what
we're
doing
at
the
moment,
which
is
essential
to
what,
where
we
are
as
a
city
I
just
council
carl,
has
already
covered
the
the
mix
and
the
flexibility.
H
H
What
are
your
thoughts
on
reaching
those
other
parts
of
the
student
population,
because
that
could
really
be
quite
a
game
changer
for
some
communities
around
the
city
centre
and
I
think
it'll
be
important.
Here's
some
views.
If
you
can't
answer
now,
that's
fine,
but
some
thoughts
on
that
would
be
interest
interesting
to
hear
not
strictly
a
planning
condition.
I
appreciate
chair,
but
I
think
it's
an
important
philosophical
question
to
ask
and
that
that's
me:
don't
yeah
thanks.
N
I
think
council
will
show
there
is
some
evidence
now
that
is
emerging
which
is
demonstrating
that
years.
Two
three
four
at
universities
are
now
starting
to
look
at
pbsa,
rather
than
necessarily
looking
at.
You
know,
hmos,
and
the
reason
being
is
that
this
generation
of
students
are
all
starting
to
feel
that
they
are
used
to
getting
going
on
holiday,
with
her
parents
to
mel
mason
or
wherever
it
may
be,
and
perhaps
hmos
aren't
the
thing
of
of
the
future.
N
So
there
is
evidence
that
is
emerging
and
I
think
that's
what
what
is
driving
to
an
extent
the
the
scale
of
pbsa
in
the
city
center.
It
isn't
about
the
growth
in
students.
Necessarily
it's
a
it's
about
that
changing
expectation
and
demand
for
the
future.
So,
yes,
that
that
is
a
something
that's
happening
now,
whether
I've
got
any
evidence
that
I
can
point
to
specifically,
it's
certainly
qualitative
at
the
moment,
but
we'll
certainly
bring
it
out
if
we
can
in
the
planning
application.
A
J
Thanks
chair,
I've
got
a
bit
of
a
stack
of
questions
actually,
so
in
the
presentation
you
said
that
the
windows
are
open
of
all,
I'm
just
wondering
if
that's
a
good
idea
right
next
to
that
busy
main
road,
that's
the
first
one
with,
and
I
know
obviously
you've
got
examples
of
the
wind
bafflers
just
over
there,
but
I'm
assuming.
That
means
that
the
wind
studies
you've
done,
have
shown
that
it's
it's
potentially
at
the
very
least
uncomfortable,
if
not
dangerous
like
on
on
the
ground.
J
So
I
was
just
going
to
ask
a
bit
around
that,
I
suppose
the
clock
and
thermometer.
What
exactly
will
you
be
doing
with
it.
J
Yeah
marketing
speak,
that's
the
one
yes
agreed
on
the
the
studios
and
three
beds,
and
thank
you
for
the
explanation
on
that.
I
wouldn't
just
like
to
say,
though
it's
it's.
It's
not
just
about
families,
it's
also
about
like
people
having
the
the
choice
to
be
able
to
live
in
a
group
and
share
and
just
be
able
to
have
that
sort
of
flexibility
as
well
as
as
well
as
like,
maybe
over
time.
You
could
then
start
a
family
if
you
choose
to
in
that
same
flat,
yeah.
So.
J
N
N
I
think
when
we
first
started
planning
on
this,
and
and
as
has
terry
as
well
and
the
wind
issues
affecting
this
site,
given
where
it
sits
in
the
city.
You
know
it's
the
first
part
of
the
city
centre
that
really
hits
is
hit
by
the
south
westerlies
and
therefore
it
is
it's
a
tricky
site
to
deal
with,
but
we
have
taken
as
part
of
the
design
process.
N
Wind
advice
from
the
very
start,
because
we
know
of
the
issues
that
affect
this
site
and
as
a
consequence
of
that,
the
scheme
has
been
designed
and
I'll.
Let
sue
explain
to
an
extent
how
the
scheme
has
addressed
the
wind
issues,
both
in
terms
of
its
design,
but
also
in
terms
of
the
mitigation
that
we're
proposing
and
some
of
that
work
is
mitigation,
as
you
rightly
point
out
in
order
to
create
the
right
comfort
levels
and
safety
levels,
but
I'll
pass
over
to
on
that.
C
Thank
you
so
I'll
start
on
the
wind
mitigation.
The
site
is
designed,
as
tim
said,
we've
been
involved
with
the
wing
consultant
literally,
since
we
first
put
pen
to
paper.
The
scheme
is
designed
on
an
east-west
access
axes.
Obviously
the
south
westerlies
are
the
most
dominant.
So
you
can't
stop.
The
wind
you've
got
to
work
out
how
you
actually
move
it
through
the
site
or
then
deal
with
localized
microclimate
in
terms
of
pedestrian
comfort,
so
the
orientation
of
the
site
has
been
a
key
driver
in
terms
of
the
south.
C
Westerlies
we've
also
created
a
faceted
tower
on
either
end
because
you
can
get,
but
the
wind
consultant
calls
positive
pressure
on
flat
surfaces.
The
wind
hits
it
doesn't
know
where
to
go
so
the
faceted
towers
allow
the
wind
to
move
round
the
towers
and
then
release
so
that
deals
with
the
design
as
a
overall,
but
regarding
pedestrian
comfort,
we've
run
the
initial
models.
We've
done,
cfd
tests
so
far
and
subject
to
the
outcome
of
today
we're
looking
to
move
to
a
wind
tunnel
test
and
the
cfd
shows
that
we're
achieving
the
comfort
levels
on
site.
C
We
haven't
got
safety
safety
issues
in
terms
of
offsite.
The
wind
mitigation
features
we
have
a
few
through
the
site.
I
don't
know
whether
the
master
plan
can
be
brought
back
up
which
may
help
members
rather
than
just
me
talking
at
the
moment.
Obviously,
we've
got
the
biophilic
structures
which
are
on
the
junction
of
wellington,
street
and
wellington
bridge
street,
because
that's
funnelling,
basically
that
access
road
is
funneling
the
wind
down
onto
wellington
street.
C
So,
and
it
does
at
the
moment,
if
anybody's
gone,
when
it's
like
it's
windy,
so
actually
bringing
in
these
structures
will
help
that
comfort
level
because
then
you're
into
where,
where
can
you
stand
and
sit
within
the
site?
So,
as
I
say
in
the
top
left
of
the
screen,
we've
identified,
where
those
biophilic
structures
sit
they're
designed
to
vary
in
height
between
three
and
seven
meters,
because
that's
how
it
deals
with
bringing
the
wind
through
one
flat
height,
doesn't
help
the
wind
based
on
the
cfd
model.
C
The
two
public
art
structures
that
we've
got
one
shown
between
a
and
b
is
the
reinvented
tower
and
the
one
on
the
access
road,
junction,
they're,
basically
funneling
the
southwesterlies
at
high
levels
through
through
the
site,
and
we
have
a
few
wind
mitigation
features
distributed
through
the
site.
C
On
the
southeast
corner
of
block
c,
we've
introduced
pergola
structures
that
help
the
downdraft
is
trying
to
make
wind
mitigation
attractive
within
the
public
realm
because,
as
tim
alluded
to,
it
is
the
fact
that
we
have
to
deal
with
where
the
first
sight
that,
as
we
hit
the
city
center
on
the
south
westerlies,
I
think.
Obviously
we
can
give
members
more
detail
around
that
once
we've
gone
through
as
well.
The
wind
tunnel
test,
but
everything
we've
undertaken
so
far,
shows
the
scheme
works.
P
Hi,
my
name's
terry
shaw.
I
work
for
the
developer
tim
and
I
have
been
involved
with
this
scheme
since
the
start
of
when
the
original
evening
post
buildings
were
demolished
and
were
responsible
for
the
granger
building
that
has
been
built,
and
we
are
so.
We
were
responsible
also
for
them.
Dealing
with
the
wind
consultants,
with
bureau,
apple
and
they've,
been
engaged
on
this
scheme
that
we're
now
looking
at.
P
P
We've
undertaken
over
35
win
studies
already,
since
the
start
just
to
make
sure
that
we
have
no
wind
issues
on-site
or
off-site.
So
it
is
something
that
we
know.
We've
got
to
do
not
only
for
safety,
but
for
comfort
for
pedestrians,
and
we
we've
done
a
lot
of
work
and
we
will
do
further
work
before
we
submit
for
planning
just
to
prove
that.
C
So
shall
I
come
in
on
the
other
points,
if
that's
okay
with
members
about
wind,
yeah,
okay,
the
reference
to
the
openable
windows,
we're
designing
the
facade
to
allow
both
openable
windows
and
mechanical
ventilation
heat
recovery.
So
if
we
have
an
acoustic
issue
and
an
air
quality
issue,
the
scheme
can
be
fully
supply
and
extract,
and
it's
integrated
we're
not
going
to
end
up
with
pepper
potted
vents
on
the
facade,
but
even
if
there's,
even
if
there
is
an
acoustic
issue,
people
can
choose
to
open
the
window.
C
People
are
living
in
these
spaces,
so
we've
designed
it.
So
you
can
make
a
choice
and
open
that
window.
But
what
we
wanted
to
do
because
of
the
towers
is
make
sure
there
was
an
integrated
guardian,
because
sometimes
everybody
has
different
body
temperatures.
Don't
they,
and
sometimes
you
just
need
the
element
of
fresh
air.
So
it
is
we're
designing
a
facade
that
allows
for
a
robust
solution,
but
we're
not
relying
on
those
opening
windows.
If
acoustics
and
air
quality.
N
I
think
also
just
in
terms
of
the
ensuring
that
we
look
to
future
proof
this
we're
in
a
situation
at
the
moment
where
we've
got
a
very
busy
road,
we'll
probably
have
a
very
busy
road
in
10
years
time,
but
actually
we'll
be
looking
at
electrification
of
vehicles.
N
So
we
will
have
quieter
vehicles,
we'll
also
have
zero
emissions
from
those
vehicles,
and,
as
a
consequence
of
that,
we
need
to
look
to
the
future
rather
than
essentially
close
off
the
opportunity
for
people
to
open
those
windows
when
in
the
future
it
might
be
more
attractive
to
do
so
than
it
is
today.
So
it's
all
about
adaptability
and
flexibility.
J
P
I'm
completely
with
you
yeah
when
the
architects
and
marketing
say
whatever
it
is.
There's
a
this.
This
forest,
I
look
at
it
and
go
in
my
world.
It's
a
wood,
so
there's
an
existing
wood
on
the
corner
of
wellington,
bridge
street,
with
with
the
river
and
for
ecology
purposes.
We
want
to
retain
that.
It's
it's
well
established.
It's
been
there
for
the
last
30
40
years.
It
thrives
and
we're
really.
What
we're
doing
is
extending
that,
and
yet
it's
got
the
term
it
has.
P
But
the
levels
as
well
there
on
wellington
bridge
street
are
the
top
where
this
this
wood
will
be
are
way
higher
than
the
river
as
well.
So
that's
that's
on
the
top
of
wellington
bridge
street,
where
the
site
is
say
three
meters
higher
at
least
than
the
rest
of
the
site,
so
we've
got,
we've
got
no
issues
as
well.
When
people
are
worrying
about
having
to
cut
down
trees
along
the
riverside.
C
Yeah-
and
I
I
wholeheartedly
agree
with
terry
here-
I
suppose
consultants
do
give
things
names,
but
I
think
the
key
part
here
is
you,
don't
often
often
get
forests
in
urban
environments
to
this
degree.
So
there
normally
you
get
more
tailored
landscapes
in
city
centers.
So
that's
why
the
name's
been
given
as
a
micro
forest,
but
the
key
is
dense
tree
planting
in
the
same
way,
and
I
think
on
the
last
two
we
had
about
the
clog
and
the
the
temperature
gauge.
C
C
So
we
want
to
maintain
that
as
part
of
the
evolving
scheme
design-
and
I
think
that
was
the
point
about
sharers
and
as
you
say,
the
the
example
we've
handed
around
today
could
equally
be
occupied
by
three
different
people
in
different
bedrooms
that
are
actually
just
groups
and
sharers.
They
don't
have
to
be
families,
but
again
the
bill
to
rent
is
a
scheme,
that's
managed,
so
they
will
respond
to
what
people
want,
because
they
need
to
get
people
to
want
to
live
in
those
spaces.
C
P
Just
on
the
clock
tower
as
well,
the
whole
of
the
team
live
in
what
it
leads
the
developers
living
needs.
We,
even
though
it
is
a
new
company
that
owns
this
site,
it
is
still
the
original
developers
and
from
when
we
bought
the
evening
post,
it's
just
under
a
different
company
name.
That
is
now
doing
the
the
different
type
of
work,
which
is
the
student
accommodation
this
bill
to
rent,
but
the
architects
from
leeds
the
planning,
consultants
from
leeds
and
developers
from
leeds.
We
all
know
how
iconic
this
tower
is.
A
Sorry,
it's
council
latte.
Now,
please.
L
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Just
a
couple
of
points.
The
the
tower
you've
just
been
referring
to.
I
trust
that's
going
to
come
back
as
part
of
the
whole
application.
L
L
The
other
point
is-
and
I
suppose
it's
a
bit
unusual
for
me
this
to
worry
about
what
goes
on
inside
buildings
because,
generally
speaking,
I'm
not-
I
don't
go
that
way.
But
last
night
council
finished
a
bit
late
and
it
was
a
nice
evening
and
as
I
drove
home,
I
go
through
a
student
area
and
you
couldn't
move
for
the
beggars.
They
were
they're
walking,
cuddling
skateboarding,
you
name
it
in
the
road
and
so.
L
We're
here
we're
going
to
have
an
awful
lot
of
students,
a
very,
very
big
building,
a
big
building
full
of
students
and
they're,
not
quite
a
big
building
full
of
people.
So
I
should
say
people
who've
press
moved
beyond
being
students.
L
You
know
I
did
correct
myself.
I
know
I
have
some
sensitive
colleagues
at
that
side.
So,
on
a
night
like
last
night,
all
these
students
aren't
going
to
stay
in
their
tower
blocks.
L
Are
we
happy
that
the
space
we've
got
and
I'm
not
being
frivolous?
Now,
I'm.
You
know
I'm
quite
serious
about
this,
that
the
space
we've
got
for
people
to
mix
mingle
do
the
sort
of
things
that
they
do,
bearing
in
mind
that
what
students
do
is
slightly
different
from
what
some
older
people
might
want
to
do.
L
Are
we
happy
with
what
we've
got
on
the
ground
there,
because
to
me
the
bit
that
everybody's
going
to
head
towards
is
the
riverbank?
That's
where
you
want
to
be,
and
that's
where
the
fun
is.
That's,
where
you
can
throw
things
in
you
know
you
can
see
things
float,
past,
etc.
You
can
sit
and
look
at
it
and
it's
not
a
very
big
area
for
all
these
people.
L
Students,
perhaps
yeah
so
yeah
simple
question:
are
you
happy
with
with
the
space
the
availability
of
places
for
people
to
relax
within
the
site.
N
N
Sorry
rather
flippant,
but,
but
I
think
there's
there
are
two
issues
cancel
that
you
raise
there
and
and
in
terms
of,
I
think,
the
compatibility
of
students
with
people
who
are
you
know
not
not
students.
This
will
be
a
managed
public
realm
area.
N
There
will
be
a
management
company
that
manages
the
entirety
of
it
and
therefore,
as
a
consequence
of
that,
though,
not
only
is
that
maintenance,
but
that
is
managing
it,
so
that
will
be
a
managed
space
as
a
consequence,
anti-social
behaviour
etc
will
be
managed
in
much
the
same
way
as
anywhere
else's
purpose
built
like
mepc
scheme
or,
alternatively,
lisbon,
the
the
swimming
pool
site,
which
will
all
be
a
managed
area,
so
we're
very
confident
that
they
can
live
side
by
side
in
that
managed
environment
in
terms
of
is
there
enough
open
space,
as
sue
mentioned,
62
61
of
the
site
is
given
over
to
public
realm
and
appreciate
that
the
the
riverside
will
be
a
very
popular
space,
but
that
riverside
actually
isn't
just
in
front
of
our
site.
N
It's
actually
going
to
be
seamlessly
blended
into
the
rest
of
the
riverside
and
that
is
going
down
into
mepc
scheme,
so
the
scheme
itself
will
interact
and
will
actually
operate
as
part
of
a
wider
piece
of
city
realm
here
and
it'll
go
down
into
the
pocket
part
that
groundwork
trust
are
delivering
down
by
the
don't.
I
call
it
kevin
linfott's
place,
but
it's
not
anymore,
but
down
just
off
whitehall
riverside.
So
there's
a
whole
area
here
that
we
think
will
be
utilized
by
the
the
residents
here.
N
So
I
think,
in
answer
to
that,
yes,
and
also
the
roof
terrace
is
proposed
within
the
scheme
as
well.
So
there'll
be
external
areas
built
to
rent
area.
I
don't
know
if
we've
got
the
image,
but
that
shows
the
roof.
Terrace
that
sits
on
that
southern,
so
yeah,
perhaps
those
who
don't
want
to
mix
with
the
students
they'll
be
able
to
sit
up
on
the
roof
terrace.
N
N
It
was
dressed
up
on
a
temporary
basis
to
keep
the
tower
in
place.
Sorry
to
keep
the
clock
in
place
whilst
the
rest
of
the
scheme
was
developed,
but
the
intention
will
be
that
that
will
be
incorporated,
not
that
in
that
position,
but
we'll
be
incorporating
either
the
clock
and
the
the
monitor
or
something
that
references
that
within
the
scheme.
I
think
the
issue
is
whether
it's
actually
retrievable
in
terms
of
operationally
retrievable
and
there's
no
point
having
something
that
doesn't
work.
But
if
we
can
we
that's
what
we
want
to
do.
N
We
want
to
keep
that
piece
as
a
as
a
reference
back
and
and
through
then,
the
design
which
we've
talked
about
in
terms
of
the
mill.
You
know
the
textiles
through
to
the
the
the
newspaper
industry
and
that
folding
there
will
be
very
strong
references
here
and
we've
obviously
got
the
reference
now
to
the
headline.
Building
headline,
obviously,
is
the
headline
of
the
yorkshire
post.
A
Okay,
can
I
just
raise
a
few
points?
You
you
talk
about
the
new
artwork
celebrating
the
industrial
heritage
of
the
site,
which
is
good.
The
yorkshire
house
obviously
springs
to
mind,
but
it
actually
was
beanings
woolen
mill
beforehand,
even
more
famous
than
the
yorkshire
post,
I
hesitate
to
say
in
this
room,
but
it
was.
A
It
was
one
of
the
first
fully
integrated
clock
processings
in
the
world.
You
know
and
I'd
like
to
see
somehow
that
that's
celebrated
as
well.
So
something
to
consider
you
can
read
all
up
about.
I
was
demolished,
I
believe,
in
the
mid
60s.
Well,
incidentally,
when
I
first
come
to
leeds,
I
actually
remember
it.
It
clearly
wouldn't
be
allowed
to
be
demolished
today.
A
You
know,
but
at
the
time
perhaps
we're
not
as
enlightened
as
we
are
now,
and
the
other
thing
is
when,
when
we
were
on
site,
members
walked
the
site
near
the
headline
building
and
we
noticed.
Although
the
headline
building
had
limited
car
parking,
there
was
a
lot
of
unauthorized
parking.
That's
not
planning
permission
along
the
wall,
which
means
there's
a
lot
more
cars
on
that
site
than
we
ever
envisaged
with
the
headline
building.
So
terry
did
say
it
was
owned
by
one
site,
but
you've
taken
over
you've
worked
with
since
2014.
A
So
I
I
think
that
needs
to
be
looked
at
closely.
It's
no
good
of
us
agreeing
to
a
small
number
of
cars
and
then
suddenly
they're
parked
on
roadways
where
they
shouldn't
be.
I
think
members
on
site
was
very
disappointed
in
that,
and
I
know
we'll
be
taken
up
by
planners
for
enforcement
on
it,
but
it's
really
got
to
stop.
It
could
have
been
nicely
landscaped
instead
of
having
all-day
parking,
it's
totally
against
our
policy
anyway
for
long
parking
things
like
that
and
it
boots
multi-story
car
park.
A
So
there's
absolutely
no
need
for
that.
So
it
was
very
enlightening
visit
for
a
number
of
us
today
to
walk
and
see
that
so,
and
we
will
have
to
investigate
that.
So
you
might
pull
that
message
across
and
you
might
give
us
insurance
that
when
you
say
the
number
is
small,
that's
the
number
we
get
and
not
additional
unauthorized
parking.
P
On
then,
can
I
just
answer
that
question
for
you
yeah
when
we
first
completed
the
development
of
that
first
building,
though
there
wasn't
such
an
issue
with
fly
parking
as
there
is,
but
I
think
people
in
leeds
have
started
to
realize
that
it
is
unenforced,
so
we're
already
putting
measures
in
place
to
prevent
that.
So
we've
we've
got
an
ampr
system
going
in
for
vehicle
recognition,
which
will
prevent
all
of
that.
A
It
we
did
see
a
sign
in
there
that
said,
permit
holders
only
from
the
residents
of
the
headline
building.
P
B
I
I
think
you
might
have
written
dan's
name
down
instead
of
mine
chair,
so
yeah
yeah,
no
problem
at
all
yeah.
Just
on
on
the
on
the
chairs
last
point,
somebody
is
set
up
a
business
that
is
making
money
out
of
permits
there,
so
it's
clearly
needs
dealing
with
the
people
parking
there,
probably
under
the
impression
they're
doing
so
perfectly
legally
having
purchased
a
permit.
B
It's
just
just
a
point
to
act.
Most
of
my
questions,
I'm
very
pleased
to
say,
have
been
dealt
with,
but
I'd
just
like
to
raise
building
b
and
say
it
seems
to
me
that
there's
there's
less
active
frontage
on
that
building
than
the
other
two
and-
and
I
guess
that
might
impact
on
the
ground
level
experience
if
you
have
ever
walked
behind
a
building
like
a
supermarket.
That's
got
inactive.
You
know
three
sides
inactive
as
it
were.
B
My
second
point
was:
we
walked
down
to
the
riverfront
and
looked
along
the
frontage
that
would
become
that
riverside,
walk
and
some
of
the
existing
trees
there
appear
to
have
suffered
damage
in
the
recent
storms
and
didn't
look
to
be
particularly
in
a
good
condition.
I
just
wondered
if
you'd
looked
at
that
and
whether
you
could
carry
out
any
works
to
improve
the
condition
of
those
trees
and
put
them
up
a
little
bit,
but
they
weren't
looking
too
good
to
me
and
it's
a
very
important
part
of
that
experience.
B
You've
clarified
the
yorkshire
post
clock
issue.
I
think
I
understand
now,
but
your
first
intention
is
to
restore
the
clock
and
temperature
gauge
if
you
can
and
the
second
plan
b,
if
you
can't
do
that,
is
to
reimagine
it
so
yeah.
I
get
that
and
a
lot's
been
said
about
wind.
C
Hi
members,
we
have
just
passed
around
a
board
that
shows
the
location
of
the
biophilic
structures.
The
wind
mitigation
features
again
just
so.
Hopefully
it
gives
you
a
better
view,
but
on
the
plan
that's
on
screen
now
we
the
circle
in
the
top
left
we've.
I
don't
put
an
arrow
to
where
the
biophilic
structures
will
sit.
The
intention
is,
they
do
sit
on
the
corner
of
wellington,
street
and
wellington
bridge
street,
so
they're
on
a
very
prominent
front
frontage
as
well.
C
So
we're
keen
that
they're
well
designed
as
we
say,
we
need
to
obviously
do
the
final
wind
tunnel
test,
because
the
key
is
making
sure
they
do
address
the
microclimate.
But
the
intention
is
to
bring
those
structures
through
as
a
reference
to
nature.
They
look,
they
have
a
tree
canopy
and
where
we
can
bring
climbing
plants
from
low
level
to
give
some
green
and
enhance
biodiversity
on
the
building
b.
C
If
we
could
just
go
to
the
next
slide,
when
we
talk
about
active
frontage,
we've,
we've
there's
always
the
necessary
bins
by
things
that
we
need
at
ground
level.
So
what
we've
tried
to
do?
Building
b
is
probably
the
one
because
we
did
not
see
that
as
a
major
pedestrian
route
when
people
are
moving
through
the
site.
We've
addressed
the
north-south
access
in
terms
of
coming
from
coaxial
road
down
to
the
riverside
coming
from
the
city
centre.
C
We've
got
the
active
frontage
on
the
corner
of
building
a
on
the
right
hand,
side
coming
down
to
the
riverside.
We
were
very
concerned
about
the
end
of
sea
because,
obviously,
in
effect,
because
you
can't
get
under
the
bridge,
it
is
a
dead
end.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
there
was
active
frontage
on
there.
I
mean
we've
all
I
do
it.
We've
all
moved
through
the
city,
you
choose
your
routes
as
well,
and
you
want
to
make
sure
that
you
feel
safe.
C
But
if
someone
did
go
down
the
river
side
by
accident,
we're
trying
to
make
sure
we've
got
active
frontage
on
the
area.
Building
b
is
the
part.
We
do
not
see
a
lot
of
pedestrian
movement
around,
but
there
isn't
a
barrier
to
wellington
bridge
street,
so
there's
not
a
high
fence
along
there.
So
there
should
be
natural
surveillance
between
those
two
parts,
but
part
of,
as
we
say
it
is
being
able
to
get
the
cycle
provision
and
the
refusing
at
low
level
and
trying
to
maximize
active
frontage
wherever
possible.
C
Hopefully
that
addresses
the
active
frontage
part.
I
think
we've
talked
about
the
clock
tower
and
then
it's
the
trees.
Obviously
we
are
undertaking
an
agricultural
survey
as
part
of
our
supporting
documents
for
the
planning,
submission
and
obviously
we'll
pick
up
those
trees
that
you've
mentioned
in
the
riverside.
At
that
point,.
A
Tim
just
for
the
sake
of
clarity,
the
highway
officer,
lisa,
isn't
sure
what
we
decided
on
this
disabled
park,
and
I
thought
you
were
saying
that
we
could
accommodate
it.
So
could
we
have
some
clarity
on
that?
Please.
N
So
we
we
will
accommodate
the
relevant
level
of
disabled
car
parking
according
to
your
standards
within
the
scheme,
that'll
be
within
the
bill
to
rent
and
anything
that
needs
to
be
provided
for
the
the
student
accommodation
that
will
be
at
grade
and
the
bill
to
rem
obviously
will
be
within
that
building.
Sorry,
that's.
L
Yes,
I
I
think
we've
gone
through
over
recent
just
recent
years,
we've
had
a
bit
of
a
sort
of
a
dull
time
we
haven't
had
some
of
the
super
buildings
that
we
were
getting
today
has
been
a
bit
like
a
renaissance.
You
know,
we've
we've
had
a
couple
of
really
nice
applications,
and
I
congratulate
you
on
this.
L
In
spite
of
the
questions
and
things
that
might
have
been
directed
at
it,
I
think
that
here
you've
got
something
which
is
going
to
really
enhance
an
important
spot
in
leeds
it's
a
real
gateway
site
is
this,
and
I
can
see
this
being
being
something
really
special,
I'm
not
too
thrilled
with
the
the
little
trees
to
dissipate
wind.
They
look
lovely
on
their
own,
but
when
you
showed
us
the
picture
of
those
alongside
the
building,
I
think
they
do
rather
detract,
but
you've
got
to
steal
the
wind.
L
A
Thank
you,
council,
latte
councilworld
shop.
Please.
H
Thank
you,
cher
yeah.
I
very
much
agree
with
council
lati's
comments.
Actually
I
think
that
we've
seen
two
really
thoughtful
presentations
this
afternoon
that
this
was
excellent.
It
was
a
really
clear
lots
of
answers.
Even
this,
it's
not
really
a
relatively
early
stage,
there's
an
awful
lot
of
work
going
into
this,
and
that
was
that
was
clear
for
all
see.
I
actually
do
like
the
the
wind
battling
trees.
I
think
they're
a
really
really
interesting
idea.
H
There's
an
awful
lot
of
good
work
being
done
here,
just
really
rather
keen
to
see
come
forward
as
a
full
application,
with
an
appropriately
strong
story
to
tell
on
the
climate
emergency.
That's
going
to
be
essential
for
us,
but
apart
from
that
chair,
I'm
really
really
pleased
with
what
we've
seen
today.
G
Yes,
I
like
it
all
as
well.
I
like
the
trees.
I
like
the
ideas
about
the
public
art.
I
like
the
openable
windows,
and
I
was
going
to
make
the
point
that
you
made
about
in
10
years
time
a
lot
more
cars
will
be
electric
and
that
bridge
street
will
not
be
quite
so
hideous
as
it
is
now
because
it
really
is
awful.
And
yes,
I'm
happy
with
this,
but
obviously,
and
look
forward
to
more
detail
when
it
comes.
A
Thank
back
all
don't
see
any
more
comments.
Can
I
I
know
it's
a
bit
early,
but
can
I
thank
you
for
bringing
and
providing
us
with
so
much
detail.
A
The
model
was
extremely
useful
and,
like
members
have
already
said,
I
do
like
to
saw
the
wind
baffling
trees
that
can
be
planted
up
and
greened
and
when
I
compared
that
to
when
I
compared
that
to
bridgewater
place
where
they've
got
sort
of
airplane
wings
that
look
horrible
over
the
pavement,
I
think
it's
much
improvement
and
you
might
have
set
a
standard
that
we'd
be
looking
to
see
in
future.
But
thank
you
for
that
and
thanks
for
all
the
all
the
samples
you
provided,
it's
been
extremely
useful.
A
A
A
I
think
it's
two
different
reports,
but
anyway
the
answer
was
yes,
so
we'll
settle
for
that.
Can
I
thank
you
for
that
presentation.
Most
interesting,
very
thought
provoking
particularly
around
the
micro
forest.
I'm
I'm
really
thrilled
to
see
how
that's
going
to
develop.
I
shall
be
watching
it
very
closely
and
if
I
get
down
to
london,
I
will
visit
summerheads
house
and
thank
you
for
telling
us
that
david,
so
can
I
wish
you
a
good
afternoon.
A
Yeah,
that's
truly
dude.
Aren't
they
okay,
so
we'll
have
to
get
down
the
summer
before
the
winter
comes
in.
The
next
meeting
is
on
the
21st
of
april
and
I'll
see
you
all.
Then.