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B
B
City
plans
panels
deal
with
applications
from
the
city
center,
as
well
as
the
largest
and
most
significant
application
the
council
receive.
The
aim
of
the
panel
is
to
hear
all
relevant
information
from
applicants.
Members
of
the
public
and
Council
officers
to
help
members
of
the
panel
make
their
decision.
Could
I
now
invite
members
and
officers
to
introduce
themselves
and
mute
your
microphone
once
you
have
done
so.
Could
I
start
on
my
left
John.
Please.
A
Right,
thank
you.
Chair
under
agenda
item
number
one.
There
are
no
appeals
against
the
refusal
of
inspection
of
documents
under
item
number.
Two.
There
is
no
exempt
information
on
today's
agenda
agenda.
Item
number
three:
there
are
no
late
items
of
business
today.
Moving
on
to
a
gender
item,
number
four
could
ask
members
if
they've
got
any
interest
to
declare
nope
moving
on
to
agenda
item
number
five:
we've
got
apologies
for
absence
from
councilor
Maloney.
Thank
you,
chair.
B
Thank
you
for
that
Andy.
If
we
can
move
on,
then
please
to
agenda
item
six
minutes
of
the
meeting
held
on
the
22nd
of
June.
If
I
go
through
my
usual
way,
starting
up
page
seven.
B
B
Finally,
page
10.,
could
we
agree
them
as
a
two
record?
Please
can
I,
therefore
invite
Council
Khan
please
to
come
in.
He
has
a
question
which
I'm
sure
will
interest
you
all
regarding
the
next
meeting
due
to
be
held
in
August.
Thank
you.
So,
yes,
it's
broadly.
K
Related
to
the
part
of
the
minutes
that
says
next
meeting,
so
our
next
meeting
is
scheduled
for
the
10th
of
August.
After
this
meeting,
there
is
a
proud
tradition
in
City
plans
panel
that
about
three
days
beforehand.
K
We
get
an
email
that
says
that
we're
not
having
this
meeting
and
I
am
conscious
that
it
would
be
far
more
helpful
both
to
officers
members
applicants
if
we
had
some
absolute
certainty
as
to
whether
it
was
or
more
realistically
wasn't
going
to
happen,
I'm
quite
happy
if
it
does
happen
and
those
who
were
away
with
organized
substitutes
but
I'd
much
prefer
that
we
have
the
certainty,
the
definitive
certainty
and
take
perhaps
the
more
pragmatic
approach
and
determine
that
it's
not
going
to
happen,
which
is
what
generally
transparents
to
be
the
case.
B
Thank
you,
Dan
I'm
sure
you
speak
for
us
all
as
it
was
on
that
I
had
a
Sly
conversation
with
John,
so
John
you
might
want
to
come
in
and
give
us
some
information
on
that,
and
then
we
can
invite
David.
C
Yes,
thanks
Charles
things
stand:
there
will
be
business
for
that
meeting.
We
can't
say
for
certain
until
about
two
weeks
before
the
date
of
the
meeting.
Unfortunately,
so
it
may
be
a
case
that
we
email
all
members,
hopefully
next
week
with
some
updates
on
that,
but
we
will
endeavor
to
do
that
as
as
quickly
as
we
possibly
can
to
give
that
level
of
certainty
for
the
next
meeting.
If
that's
satisfactory,
chair.
P
B
H
Thank
you,
chair,
just
follow
on
from
councilor
Corin
I
know,
we've
been
having
a
single
item
agenda
on
meetings
recently
and
previously
I've
been
on
City
plans
kind
of
a
long
long
time,
and
you
know
we
always
used
to
have
a
quite
a
few
items
on
the
gender.
Would
it
be
possible
depending
do
we
know
how
many
items
will
it
be
added
on
to
the
next
me,
you
know.
Is
there
going
to
be
one
single
item
agenda?
Please.
C
At
this
stage,
by
aware
of
three
possibly
four
items
for
that
meeting,
clearly
things
do
change
on
a
daily
basis
in
terms
of
what
might
come
forward.
C
But
at
this
point,
because
we
have
a
number
of
offices
and
telling
me
that
items
are
not
quite
ready
and
weren't
quite
ready
for
this
meeting,
but
they
are
expecting
them
to
come
to
the
August
meeting
but
as
I
say,
I'll,
be
able
to
confirm,
perhaps
in
a
week's
time
with
what
certainty
as
to
what's
coming
forward,
or
certainly
how
many
items
may
be
coming
forward
at
that
meeting.
B
Council
come:
we
did
have
another
meeting,
another
agenda
item
that
I'm
sure
you'd
have
all
loved
to
see
and
our
Barry
has
raised
it
with
me.
You
will
recall
that
when
we,
when
we're,
we
get
a
affordable
housing
money.
B
I'm
sure,
that's
something
we'd
all
love
to
see,
because
it's
a
question
that's
often
asked:
where
does
the
money
go
to
and
when
are
we
going
to
use
it
constructively?
So
it
doesn't
always
start
out
that
when
I
get
my
brief.
Sometimes
there
are
two
two,
two
even
three
but
the
applicants.
If
they
feel
it's
not
right
for
them,
they
may
have
the
same
problems
that
we
have
in
the
summer
holidays,
keyword,
career
members
on
plan
on
holidays
such
like,
but
you
know
at
the
end
of
the
day.
B
B
We
leave
it
there
please
and
you
will
be
informed
by
John
soonness.
Possibly
we
know
what
it
is.
Officers
do
take
the
holidays
this
time
as
well
and
we're
often
short
of
officers
to
proceed
with
meetings,
but
we'll
let
you
know
as
soon
as
you
can
moving
on,
then.
Can
we
go
to
agenda
item
seven
page
11.
B
F
Can
I
just
say
chair
that
in
the
papers
it's
listed
as
being
Huntsville
and
Riverside,
but
it's
actually
a
little
London
and
what
else
Ward.
C
C
So
thanks
Jay.
Thankfully
this
is
just
a
pre-application
item
as
you'll
be
aware.
So
hopefully
there
won't
be
too
much
of
a
grilling
for
the
case
officer,
but
so
this
is
a
pre-application
inquiry
relates
to
the
so
your
development
south
of
York
development
at
Quarry
Hill.
It
relates
to
block
a
of
that
scheme
where
members
may
recall
previously
approving
a
multi-story
car
park
on
the
site.
C
B
B
I
I
got
Lee
Savage,
Here,
Andrew,
Garner,
Andrew,
windrus,
Tim
McDonald,
please
introduce
you
when
you're
ready
and
if
you
introduce
yourself
as
you
speak,
would
be
helpful
to
the
panel.
Thank
you.
I
Thank
you
chair,
yes,
Andrew
Windrose
planning,
consultant
from
ID
planning
and
I'll
just
quickly
start
off
presenting
this.
Yes,
I
think
you
all
know
where
the
site
is
went
there
this
morning
and
you'll
be
aware
of
a
planning
history
on
the
site.
That
includes
an
outline
approval
that
was
granted
in
2017..
So
this
under
that
approval,
there
were
a
number
of
residential
units
approved
in
addition
to
offices
with
students
having
an
option
to
offset
some
of
the
residential
provision.
I
However,
the
full
residential
provision
is
has
been
and
is
being
delivered
on
site.
Therefore,
this
is
brought
to
you
today
as
a
pre-app
for
what
will
be
a
full
planning
application
for
a
student
development,
so,
whereas
this
outline
history,
this
is
out
with
that
point
and
it's
it
comes
on
the
back
of
stakeholder
engagement
with
with
other
Quarry
Hill
and
the
support
from
the
playhouse
and
I'll
hand
over
to
Andrew
Garner,
the
architect,
who
will
present
the
scheme
in
full.
Q
To
the
presentation
I
understand,
you
visited
the
site,
so
I
don't
label
this
too
much,
but
you
can
see
the
six
blocks
that
form
the
Solio
development
blocks,
enf,
which
are
the
mode
of
New
York
square
development.
Q
Vehicles
come
along
St
Celia
Street,
creating
a
new
turning
head
and
a
service
Bay
to
the
northeast
corner
of
the
building
and
car
traffic
access
will
come
along
Again,
State,
Sealy
street
from
the
north
to
access
the
accessible
parking
Bays
EV
parking,
Bays,
we're
proposing
and
to
get
to
the
lay-by
pedestrian
movement
through
the
site.
Q
I've
indicated
the
existing
pedestrian
movement
around
the
site
and
the
idea
is
that
block
a
will
Connect
into
that,
the
red
dots
being
the
primary
pedestrian
route,
leading
to
the
entrances
and
block
a
on
soyo
Square.
You
can
also
see
to
the
north
The
Pedestrian
route
will
now
link
up
to
formally
to
the
a64
Footbridge
which
links
over
so
that
connects
into
the
pedestrian
Route
Around
the
site.
Q
Very
quickly,
looking
at
the
concept
of
the
building,
it's
a
very
simple
c-shaped
building.
It
follows
the
approach,
a
master
plan,
principles
in
height
and
massing
very
similar
in
form
to
block
b.
In
fact,
it
mirrors
it
symmetrically
along
the
central
axis.
Q
It's
a
robust
plinth
masonry
plinth
and
a
mixture
of
brick
and
metallic
aluminum
panels
above
and
the
southern
elevation
which
you
can
see
with
the
darker
Tower
forms
a
symmetrical
facade
to
blocks
B
opposite,
which
creates
a
Vista
to
Quarry
house
when
you're
walking
along
that
Central
Street.
Q
Looking
at
some
context,
elevations
they're,
quite
small
scale,
but
you
can
see
block
a
elevation
on
the
top
left
mirroring
to
the
right,
the
Block
B
elevations,
and
they
they
form
that
symmetrical
view
to
Quarry
house,
which
is
slightly
ghosted
out
in
the
background
on
the
screen.
But
it's
that
symmetrical
view
which
really
forms
as
a
sort
of
end
point
to
the
hedro
Eastgate
East-West
axis.
That
leads
through
the
site.
Q
Q
North
south
context
elevations
the
elevation
at
the
top,
which
would
be
the
elevation
facing
north
to
the
a64
Saint
Celia
Street,
and
to
the
South
the
Central
Street
elevation.
So
you've
got
the
lower
block
forms
of
the
mode
in
New
York
square
building,
forming
the
street
height
and
block
block
a
following
on
that
lower
height,
leading
up
to
the
DWP
Quarry
house.
Q
Looking
at
landscaping
and
general
surroundings
to
the
building,
you
can
see
there,
the
turning
head
and
the
loading
Bay
service,
Bay,
we're
creating
on
the
northeast
of
the
building,
the
connection
to
the
Footbridge
with
the
route
across
the
saint
Celia
Street,
Spur
Road,
which
we'll
be
creating,
and
then
the
landscape
bordering
the
courtyard,
which
is
a
is
a
a
deep
band
of
sort
of
lead,
Landscaping,
which
creates
privacy
and
security
for
the
courtyard
for
the
student
immunity,
but
gives
that
extra
amnesian
streetscape
as
you're
walking
along
Saint,
Celia
Street
and
then
the
lower
image.
Q
There
shows
the
soyo
square
with
the
X
continuation
of
the
landscape
that
will
spread
throughout
so
yeah.
There's
the
different
phases
come
to
fruition,
which
gives
these
sort
of
informal
seating
areas
and
some
more
formal
areas
of
seating
where
the
little
cafes
would
occur.
It's
actually
a
very
sunny
aspect,
this
element
of
the
square
it's
south
facing,
so
it
will
be
a
very
well
used
public
space.
Q
Foreign
moving
on
to
the
ground
floor.
Just
to
give
an
indication
of
uses
there,
you
can
see
the
two
little
red
arrows,
one
indicating
the
entrance
to
the
small
Cafe
unit,
the
other,
the
main
entrance
to
the
student
use
on
the
ground
floor.
All
the
amenity
areas
for
the
students
are
gathered
around
that
ground
floor
and
surrounding
and
opening
onto
the
internal
Garden
Courtyard
Courtyard
Terrace
area.
Q
Q
But
then
the
whole
yellow
area
is
a
further
amenity
and
they'll
have
a
whole
range
of
things,
including
private
dining
areas
which
will
open
up
onto
the
Terrace
workspace
and
study
rooms,
games,
room
areas,
TV
rooms,
meditation
prayer,
room
areas
also
located
throughout
the
building
laundry
rooms.
Q
Key
key
aspect
for
students
clearly
and
other
smaller
spaces
which
are
taken
up,
are
interesting
aspects
that
have
just
been
looking
to
be
introduced,
which
we
karaoke
virtual
reality
and
even
podcast
Studios.
So
a
real
mix
of
the
means
just
to
to
bring
all
the
students
together.
This
will
be
managed
space
and
there'll,
be
community
events
generate
in
the
program
events
to
to
be
inclusive
for
all
the
students
on
the
Northern
or
it's
the
Eastern,
but
to
the
top
of
the
plan,
the
gray
areas
that
are
basically
the
plant
and
support
areas.
Q
So
there's
the
Leeds
pipes,
District
heating,
incoming
service,
various
areas
of
generator
and
substations
plant
rooms,
the
bin
stores
and
then
to
the
right.
The
bike
store
area,
which
is
secure,
bike
storage
for
the
students
and
outside
of
that
there's,
a
small
little
area
indicated
for
the
EV
bike,
Hub,
which
we
hope
to
introduce
as
part
of
the
the
Leeds
cycle
bike.
Hub,
that's
proposed
in
the
coming
years.
Q
You
also
on
the
the
southern
Saint
Celia
Street.
You
can
see
the
eights
accessible,
EV,
accessible
spaces
that
have
been
produced
in
have
been
introduced,
which
are
the
for.
The
use
of
the
whole
cellular
site,
so
it's
not
specific,
only
for
the
students
it'll
be
available
for
all
of
the
users
and
and
particularly
for
the
playhouse
use.
Q
Looking
at
the
upper
levels,
this
is
a
typical
student
Arrangement.
This
repeats
for
seven
floors
effectively
above
the
amenity
plinth.
The
lighter
color
rooms
are
the
studios.
The
darker
color
are
the
Clusters,
and
the
Clusters
are
arranged
around
their
kitchen
Lounge
areas,
there's
also
some
small
amenity
spaces
to
the
right
of
the
the
right
hand
core
which
of
her
study
rooms
as
well,
which
appear
through
the
building,
a
simple,
simple
Arrangement,
the
twin
core,
three
lifts,
which
gives
good
good
travel
distances
and
speed
of
access
for
all
students.
Q
Jumping
ahead
typical
cluster
room,
which
is
based
on
just
over
15
square
meters
and
a
typical
Studio,
which
is
21
22
square
meters,
which
are
good
sizes
there
so
well
in
advance
of
the
sort
of
pbsasdp
standards,
if
you
like
so
the
very
generous
rooms
and
in
addition
to
that,
there's
a
over
2020
turning
accessible
already
rooms
in
both
the
Clusters
and
the
studios.
Q
Table
I
won't
read
the
table
because
I'm
sure
you
can
all
do
that,
but
the
key
takeout
from
this
is
really
the
amenity
space
per
student.
It's
Circa,
2.2
internal
immunity,
space
per
student,
which
is,
is
more
than
double
the
sort
of
standard
requirement
that
you
might
be
looking
at
and
in
addition
to
that,
there's
an
external
immunity
area
per
per
room
of
over
one
meters,
1.1
meters
square.
So
it's
well
served
by
a
meansy
space
for
the
students.
Q
Some
sections
to
sell
the
context.
This
is
a
section
through
the
Garden
Terrace
of
the
building,
so
you've
got
Quarry
house
to
the
right
and
blocky
of
the
New
York
square
motor
building
to
the
left.
Q
You
can
see
the
Landscaping
of
the
the
Garden
Terrace,
which
helps
separate
the
space
and
provide
that
bit
of
privacy
and
additional
Landscaping
to
the
street
between
block
a
and
and
Quarry
house
itself.
So
there's
existing
Landscaping
there,
but
we're
building
that
up
and
developing
that
landscape.
Further.
Q
Reverse
section
looking
into
the
Terrace
the
Courtyard
area,
with
the
amenity
spaces,
opening
onto
it
student
accommodation
above
Garden
in
the
center,
and
you
see
the
start
of
the
landscaping
for
the
soyo
square
to
the
right
leading
up
to
Quarry
house.
Q
Some
contextual
aerial
views
really,
obviously,
the
red
dotted
line
showing
block
a
is
quite
a
good
showing
the
the
relationship
with
Block
B.
You
can
see
the
form
of
the
facade
there
as
it
steps
forward
there's
a
small
sort
of
tower
element
created
facing
Block
B,
which
frames
the
entrance
and
Vista
to
to
Quarry
house
itself.
Q
Q
Material
wise
there's
a
well
rehearsed
and
used
Palace
of
materials
already
as
part
of
the
Solio
development,
which
is
a
is
a
Portland
masonry
for
a
robust
plinth,
a
red
brick
facing
brick
with
decorative
details,
projecting
headers
and
a
metallic
gold,
honeycomb
aluminum
panel
system
and
then
darker
Windows,
bronzed,
colored
window
frames
and
with
this
particular
scheme,
we're
introducing
a
fretted
decorative
side
panel
to
the
windows
which
acts
as
the
ventilation
for
the
windows.
Q
So
this
is
the
elevation
be
facing
motor
block
e
below
the
elevation
addressing
Quarry
house,
which
shows
the
plinth
and
then
the
simple
order
of
the
windows
where
we
split
it
into
a
five
plus
two
just
to
give
a
middle
and
a
top
to
that
elevation
and
that's
something
which
is
carried
over
from
Block
B
adjacent
so
similar
in
in
approach
to
massing
and
and
how
the
design
is
approached
quickly.
Looking
at
the
southern
elevation
facing
the
soyo
Square,
the
new
soyo
Square,
you
can
see
the
darker
element
there.
Q
Q
Finally,
some
cgis,
which
bring
that
all
together.
Hopefully
this
is
looking
from
Saint
Celia
Street
back
into
the
site.
So
as
you
look
along
Saint
Celia
Street,
you
can
see
Block
B
in
the
distance
and
and
actually
Northern
ballet,
just
poking
its
head
out
at
the
End
of
the
Street,
the
accessible
parking
Bays
new
pedestrian
route
connecting
into
the
the
general
pedestrian
route,
Within
soyo
and
then
the
projecting
brick
wins
the
on
the
gables.
Q
You
can
see
the
projecting
brick
headers,
the
brick
detailing
which
is
being
introduced
in
various
elements
and
then
the
simple
five
plus
two
format
of
the
windows
and
all
of
the
ground
floor.
Plinth
at
that
point
is
all
amenity
space,
so
opening
up
to
and
looking
into
and
blurring
the
sort
of
in
inside
outside
for
the
students,
so
I
think
that'll
be
a
very
well
used
area,
extended
area.
It
also
gives
very
good
surveillance
from
a
security
point
of
view
around
the
building.
Q
Q
And
finally,
a
view
looking
back
from
the
south
facing
north,
so
we're
looking
across
the
new
cellular,
Square,
clearly
Quarry
house
to
the
right,
the
motor
building,
which
is
popping
in
in
the
left-hand
corner,
and
you
can
see
the
projecting
brick
Wings
forming
the
courtyard
on
the
left
and
the
stepping
in
of
the
darker
Tower
to
enclose
and
create
the
view
to
Quarry
house
at
the
base
of
that.
Tower
is
the
little
cafe
and
at
the
base
of
the
the
first
brick
Wing
is
the
is
the
main
student
entrance.
Q
The
bike,
bikes
store
and
hub
would
be
addressed
just
around
the
The
Dark
Tower
there.
So
off
the
Central
Street,
the
the
Landscaping
is,
is
a
continuation
of
the
landscape
and
it
started
at
the
Gateway
Gardens
Playhouse
Square
and
he's
sweeping
up
through
the
Central
Street,
as
the
different
phases
develop
particularly
important
here
because
of
the
sunny
aspect
of
this
area.
So
creating
all
the
informal
seating
spaces
has
been
key
to
how
that
will
have
worked
and
and
the
the
slightly
more
open
area
of
stone.
Q
Paving
that
you
can
see
that
that
will
afford
the
opportunity
to
do
some
events
at
various
points,
so
there'll
be
an
event
program.
They
could
be
sort
of
Marquees
or
food
Vans
and
things
that
can
happen
at
various
different
times
of
the
year.
Band
stands
and
things
like
that.
Perhaps
okay.
Thank
you.
B
E
Thank
you
jet
all
in
all
I'm,
reasonably
happy
with
the
the
premise
of
the
scheme
and
and
what's
proposed
looking
at
it,
there
doesn't
look
to
be
a
lot
of
studio
apartments
in
there,
which
I
do
personally
prefer
clusters.
So
I
wonder
if
you
could
talk
a
bit
about
the
mix
and
how
you've
come
to
that
that'd
be
useful.
E
My
biggest
concern
really
just
looking
at
that
and
looking
around
some
of
the
areas
is
where
some
of
the
potential
areas
that
you
might
walk
to
at
night
to
get
a
taxi
or
to
get
your
bike
out
a
place.
So
I
know
the
lay-by
at
the
top
of
sorry
to
the
North
End
of
the
site
and
get
my
bearings.
It
seems
to
be
quite
a
distance.
E
So
if
you're
getting
picked
up
in
a
taxi,
I'm
not
sure
I'd
want
to
come
out
of
the
entrance
and
walk
all
the
way
around
the
building
to
an
area
that
looks
a
bit
that
doesn't
look
as
much
overlooked.
I
imagine
you'd
ask
to
be
picked
up
near
where
you've
got
your
accessible
parking,
which
I
I'll
take
you'd,
probably
prefer
not
to
have
to
happen.
So
I'm
just
a
bit
concerned
about
that.
E
It's
a
bit
if
you're
getting
a
taxi
home
from
visiting
somebody
late
at
night,
I'm
not
sure
I'd
want
to
stand
there,
let
alone
I'm
sure
many
other
people
who
may
be
more
concerned
and
then
I've
got
the
same.
E
I
think
it
looked
a
bit
better
in
the
in
the
CGI
just
showed,
but
the
where
the
bikes
Cub
will
be
placed
and
where
the
cycle
store
entrance
is
is
then
just
nipped
in
behind
that
cafe
and
I'm
just
a
bit
concerned
that
that's
a
bit
of
a
dark
corner
as
well
and
I
just
wondered
whether
you'd
looked
at
where
there
was
opportunities
for
those
elements
to
be
more
front
and
center
near
the
front
door,
so
people
weren't
coming
out
with
the
front
door
and
having
to
walk
all
the
way
around
those
dark
Corners.
Q
Yes,
certainly
we
don't
see
the
the
Central
Street
finishing
at
the
at
the
edge
of
the
building.
It
will
continue
on
to
dwbp
and
all
the
Landscaping
at
that
point
will
be
equally
sort
of
treated
to
the
same
quality.
So
in
terms
of
lighting
and
certainly
CCTV,
all
those
areas
around
the
building
will
be
welcome.
Well
considered.
Q
J
I
I
think,
in
addition,
just
to
with
regard
to
the
labor
at
the
North
there
there's
the
the
overlooking
windows
from
those
ground
floor
as
apartments
that
are
in
there
as
well.
In
addition
to
that
CCTV
and
all
the
management.
So
this
is,
we've
got
Tim
and
Tim
and
Lee
from
Cory
Hill
developments
here
who
are
actively
managing
this
whole
site
of
course.
So
it's
it
is
a
very
much
a
managed
site
with
a
security
presence
and
the
concierges
and
all
those
other
elements.
So
there
may
be
bits
that
they
wish
to
expand
on
as
well.
I
There
is
the
development
site,
of
course,
which
may
come
forward
and
then
the
routes
which
go
through
to
Quarry
house
as
well.
So
yes,
not
the
busiest
at
the
moment,
but
it
will
get
busier.
There
will
be
that
overlooking
from
both
ground
floor
and
Upper
Floor
Windows.
Q
Yeah,
the
the
the
mix
of
Studios
to
clusters
is
is
something
which
is
a
standard
mix
that
we're
finding
in
terms
of
how
the
buildings
work
well
and
what
the
need
and
requirement
is
from
students.
So
we
are
looking
at
the
currently
looking
at
the
cluster
sizes,
seeing
what
we
can
do
with
those
and
whether
there's
any
sort
of
movement
on
those
areas,
but
I
think
the
60
40
splits
is,
is
a
a
trusted
approach
to
the
viability
in
these
areas.
E
Thank
you,
yeah
I,
think
that
makes
sense
in
terms
of
the
the
split
and,
if
it
worked
elsewhere,
then
I
I
mean
that's
your
that's
your
call
to
make
from
a
commercial
point
of
view,
obviously
I
think,
based
on
the
the
cgis.
E
We
saw
I'm,
probably
okay,
with
things
like
the
cycle
store
and
where
the
bike
Hub
is
I,
think
that
you
are
going
to
find
that
most
taxis,
just
drop
off
at
those
removable,
bollards
and
I
think
it
might
be
better
that
we
accept
that
and
look
to
build
that
in
otherwise,
you
may
find
you've
got
a
queue
of
four
or
five
taxis
along
there
that
are
trying
to
negotiate
their
way
out.
I
certainly
would
rather
it
were
there
anyway
for
a
safety
point
of
view,
but
I
I,
imagine
that
might
be
something
that
said.
K
Thank
you
very
much
indeed
chair.
Could
you
do
me
a
favor?
Could
you
zip
back
on
the
presentation
to
one
of
the
first
slides
showing
the
area
between
the
accessible
parking
and
the
building
itself.
K
Yeah,
actually
it's
that
one
is
it
yeah?
So
thank
you
for
that
question.
One
I'm,
assuming
is
this
going
to
be
public
amenity
space
about
or
is
that
private
immunity,
space
question
mode
question
two,
looking
at
the
picture
underneath
you
made
a
really
interesting
point
about
that
being
predominantly
it's
self-facing,
it's
going
to
be
very
well
used.
K
Have
you
looked
at
the
opportunity
of
creating
more
grass
land
there
and
less
concrete
there
in
terms
of
water
flow
off?
That's
going
to
be
better
in
terms
of
just
generally
more
pleasant.
So
just
wonder
what
thought
was
given
to
that.
Q
And
that
the
Landscaping
it
as
I
say,
is
a
continuation
of
the
landscaping
and
the
design
which
has
been
developed
as
part
of
that
master
plan.
So
there
are
quite
large
areas
of
soft
landscape
within
that
I
mean
looking
across
it
at
this
position
in
terms
of
rain,
Gardens
and
and
water
runoff.
That's
all
been
considered
as
part
of
that
wider
landscape,
certainly
looking
within
the
immunity
area
for
what
areas
of
green
grass
areas
and
Landscape
we
can
introduce,
that
is
in
terms
of
the
amenity
space.
Q
It
is
a
private
provision
of
emergency
landscape
for
the
students.
So
there
is
a
level
of
security
we
need
to
consider
there.
So
it
is
student
amenity
space
in
the
courtyard.
R
You
hear
me
now
yeah,
it's
a
huge
Shirley
Savage
director
of
caddock
group,
the
applicant
just
back
on
the
the
management
and
the
taxi
drop-off
will
take
counselors
previous
comments
on
board,
and
we
look
at
that.
If
this
obviously
processes
of
feedback
and
we'll
take
that
on
board
and
have
a
look
at
it,
the
Public
Square,
which
is
part
of
the
main
public
realm
to
off
this
plot.
R
It's
not
in
the
red
line
being
considered
today,
I
believe
it's
already
approved
and
there's
been
many
temporary
Arrangements
installed
through
the
life
of
gory,
Hill
and
and
soyo,
and
the
approval
of
this
application
will
allow
us
to
complete
our
interest
in
in
immediate
interest
in
soyo
and
bring
forward
and
complete
all
those
temporary
spaces
to
the
previously
permitted
permissions.
K
B
I'll
bring
you
in
when,
when
we
go
on
Council
card,
please.
H
Thank
you,
Joe
just
nicely
follow
on
from
Castle's
coins,
question
I
know
at
the
beginning
of
the
report.
Council
Brooke
did
say
it's
not
in
Onslaught
Riverside,
it's
in
little
Underwood
house,
but
the
world.
You
know
next
door
to
where
it's
burnt
off
Richmond,
in
other
words,
I
represent,
and
it
will
have
a
quite
a
bit
of
an
interest
and
effect
on
residents
in
birmingtos,
Richmond
Hill.
H
So
if
it's
I
mean
the
site
has
been
developed
around
cardiacas
developer,
you
know
the
site
on
there,
but
we
do
have
some
public
space
as
well,
and
how
we're
going
to
be
managing
this
site
is
going
to
be
fenced
off
for
residents
for
other
users.
That's
question
one
and
on
the
connectivities
connectivity.
We
don't
want
this
to
be
it's
Island
on
its
own.
The
local
other
areas
need
to
connect
with
this
site.
One
is
particularly
the
a64
the
bridge.
My
question
also
is
on
the
bridge.
H
R
Should
I
pick
out
the
future
in
order
of
order
of
the
questions
when
you
refer
to
the
site
and
stuff?
Do
you
mean
this
plot,
specifically
the
the
only
the
only
Security
will
be
of
that
private
Garden
area,
and
that's
obviously,
is
you
know
for
safeguarding
students
Etc.
They
need
to
be
that
that
private
space
The
Wider,
so
your
development
doesn't
have
a
fence
around
it.
R
The
connectivity
and
the
links
to
The
Wider
areas
such
as
the
walls
you
represent,
we're
all
debated
and
established
in
the
outline
application
that
was
permitted.
So
this
is
merely
a
plot
within
that
wider,
wider
outline
and
the
context
in
which
that
has
been
already
been
considered.
It's
very
important
that
all
those
links
that
Andrew
talked
about
earlier,
both
vehicle
and
pedestrian,
are
maintained
and
the
car,
the
bridge
I
can't
answer.
The
question
about
when
the
bridge
will
be
delivered.
R
I
can
confirm,
is
the
kind
of
group
of
have
made
their
required
contributions
to
that
already
I
think
the
last
payment
was
over
a
year
ago,
so
that
that
is
unfortunately
knocked
out
in
our
control.
I
think
colleagues
could
probably
expand
on
the
type
of
landscaping.
I
It's
in
essence,
has
been
touched
on.
The
Landscaping
follows
that
that
palette,
that's
already
been
agreed
for
locks
BC
enf,
so
it
comes
through
slightly
different
approach,
with
the
the
student
space
again
that
that
will
have
a
slightly
different
use
to
some
of
the
others,
but
it's
also
not
too
dissimilar
to
a
build
to
rent
internal
Courtyard
type
approach
as
well.
I
Just
touching
on
the
the
previous
comment
about
the
public
private.
Yes,
it
eats
only
that
space
when
we
had
the
two
images
above
and
below
each
other,
essentially
that
that
top
image
was
showing
the
Landscapes
areas
that
were
private
and
then
when
we
saw
the
lower
image
with
the
hardest
service
area
in
the
center.
That's
that's
the
public
bit
which
we
say
is
part
of
the
previous
outline
applications
and
other
approvals
through
Reserve
matters.
R
R
It
isn't
easy
to
do
when
you're
doing
a
multi-plot
development
as
some
of
these
spaces
change
over
time,
but,
as
you
probably
saw
on
your
walk
around
today,
that
lots
of
activity
around
there,
some
commercial
uses
going
in
at
ground
floor
which
would
provide
natural
surveillance
as
well,
but
the
management
company
is
funded
and
will
manage
the
common
areas.
H
Yeah,
thank
you
and
the
other
one
is
when
you're
going
to
be
going
out
for
consultation,
it'll
be
nice
to
consult
with
the
neighboring
Ward
as
well.
So
please
do
get
in
touch
with
us
and
we
will
be
happy
to
signpost
you
to
Residence
groups
and
the
community
in
in
neighboring
worlds,
and
also
you
mentioned,
there's
going
to
be
some
commercial
units.
H
H
And
and
the
other
is
the
public
health
wise?
What
conversation
have
you
had
with
the
public
health
on
regarding
GPS
and
you
know,
and
because
the
GPS
on
Shakespeare
is
already
under
stress
and
where
will
those
residents
will
be
accessing
those
provisions.
I
We
will
certainly
contact
yourselves
as
Jason
Ward
counselors,
and
then
we
can
take
that
further
from
there
that
the
public
consultation
has
started.
There's
a
website
for
running
in
local
stakeholders
certainly
been
engaged
in
that
and
sent
information
and
say
we
spoke
with
the
playhouse
another
Quarry
Hill
stakeholders
as
well.
So
we'll
expand
that
immediately
with
regards
to
the
public
health
discussions.
Yes,
that's
something
that
I'll
sort
of
pick
up
and
take
away
from
here.
I
Obviously,
students
are
often
registered
at
their
home
address
in
that
sense,
but
there
clearly
will
be
a
need
and
there
are
the
sort
of
centralized
facilities
with
the
university
and
the
connections
there.
But
again,
that's
not
something
that
I'll
pick
up
with
the
wider
team
to
make
sure
a
lot
will
be
through
the
management
through
the
operator
again
of
directing
them
where
they
need
to
go
for
those
certain
facilities
and
then
they're,
obviously
linked
with
the
universities
as
well.
So
I'll
find
out
a
little
bit
more
on
that.
B
And
I
say:
Council
Khan
I
had
an
excellent
sandwich
in
the
sainsbury
express
which
I
had
for
my
lunch,
and
it's
already
there
on
another
block
so
and
I
I
seem
to
recall
the
bridge
wasn't
a
new
bridge.
It
was
an
upgrade
for
50,
000
and
I'm,
not
sure
if
it's
related
to
this
particular
armor.
It's
related
to
the
scheme,
and
it
will
happen
you
know,
but
at
the
moment
we're
waiting
up.
F
F
I
know
I
know
that
you've
spoken
a
little
bit
about
natural
surveillance
and
things,
but
obviously,
with
the
with
the
student
accommodation
block,
that's
not
going
to
be
in
use
all
of
the
time
so
like
that
there
are
gaps
and
concerns
around
that
I
mean
it's
not
it's
not
just
for
the
residents
of
this
block.
It's
also
The
Wider
side
and
anyone
moving
through
it
and
then
on
on
the
delivery
side
of
things.
F
I
There
is
the
slide
with
The
Pedestrian
Roots.
Would
you
mind
just
showing
that
one?
So?
Yes,
the
The
Pedestrian
Roots,
which
have
been
identified
on
this
on
this,
this
slide
shows
both
vehicular
in
blue
and
then
the
red,
pedestrian
Roots,
primarily,
and
then
there's
the
the
one
going
over
the
Footbridge
as
well
to
the
north,
which
is
identified
so
that
that's
been
part
of
the
understanding
and
the
analysis
of
this
site
for
some
decades
now
to
be
honest,
yeah
for
an
awful
long
time.
I
So
it's
all
flowed
through
the
outline,
so
it
was
2014
application
approved
2017.
I
thought
through
all
that
process
and
these
building
blocks
are
in
effect
in
the
same
positions.
Those
routes
are
the
same
as
they
were
then,
and
we've
also
had
an
access
consultant
involved
throughout
that
ensuring
level
access
is
obviously
been.
The
the
main
changes
to
the
just
to
the
west
of
the
playhouse,
of
course,
with
the
the
enhanced
landscape
in
there
and
the
level
routes
which
follow
up
level
routes
to
the
South
as
well,
and
we
touched
on
that
with
block
D
when
that
was
presented.
I
Last
Auto,
so
they've
been
thoroughly
thought
through
this
red
line.
You,
you
may
just
my
account
from
that
plan.
It
goes
right
up
to
that
Footbridge.
So
there
are
the
enhancements
on
primary
the
hard
surfaces
up
to
that
Footbridge,
including
the
crossing
to
the
Footbridge,
where
we
see
the
dotted
line,
that's
where
the
ownership
ends
and
that's
where
to
confirm
councilman's
comment.
I
Previously,
it
says
the
50
000
pound,
that's
already
been
paid
for
that
Footbridge
improvements
along
with
the
previous
Highway
contribution,
so
that
that
goes
some
way
to
certainly
enhancing
that
that
bridge.
Yes,
we
do
know
is,
is
not
ideal,
so
hopefully
that
will
get
improved
hopefully
soon,
rather
than
later,
with
the
the
various
contributions
that
were
coming
from
different
parties
and
the
application
will
be
accompanied
by
the
usual
Highway
statement
and
again
pre-application
with
officers.
I
We've
been
uttering
out
queries
on
on
that
with
regard
to
the
deliveries,
a
lot
through
the
student
management
plan,
of
course,
in
terms
of
drop
off
and
how
you
get
the
slots
for
when
you
can
drop
off
so
that
not
everybody
turns
up
on
the
final
Saturday
before
the
term
starts
and
there's
lots
of
cars
there.
It's
all
managed
through
that
process
and
there's
only
so
many
slots
available,
which
likewise,
that
Highway
statement,
of
course,
fully
looks
into
the
laborers
deliveries.
I
We
put
all
the
tracking
for
the
Turning
there
in
terms
of
the
numbers.
The
management
also
helps
with
regard
to
those
deliveries
in
terms
of
storing
them,
not
waiting
for
the
student
themselves
just
to
come
down
and
pick
them
up
again.
There's
this
concierge
and
management
that
can
undertake
that
process.
F
When
we,
when
we're
talking
about
pedestrian
Movement,
we
also
need
to
take
safety
into
account
with
that
so
like,
if
is
any,
is
any
sort
of
dark
spots
being
identified
where
you
know,
visibility
might
be
low,
especially
with
it
being,
as
I
said,
before,
a
student
development.
Why
it's
it's
really
important
that
all
of
that
is
covered
and
everything
has
been
taken
into
account
in
in
your
answer.
You
just
talked
about
movement
and
not
so
much
about
the
the
safety
aspect
of
that
movement.
F
So
I'd
like
to
hear
a
bit
more
about
that.
Please
and
in
terms
of
the
the
delivery
things
again,
I
didn't
really
hear
any
numbers
in
terms
of
how
how
much
how
many
like
hot
food
takeaway
deliveries
you're
expecting
a
day
how
many
online
shopping
deliveries
you're
expecting
a
day
you
you
seem
just
to
be
talking
about
pick
up
and
drop
off
in
terms
of
moving
in
and
then
also
so
taxi
taxi
yeah
tax
season
Yeah
by
they.
Don't
they
don't
seem
to
be
much
by
way
of
detail
there.
I
I
say
that
is
all
analyzed
in
Highway
statement:
I
couldn't
quote
the
numbers
out
yet
today,
sorry,
we
haven't
got
the
highway
consultant,
whether
we
want
to
drill
down
into
that
that
detail
necessarily
in
this
presentation,
but
that
is
all
within
the
highway
statements.
That
is
analyzed
and
I
say.
The
highways
consultant
with
with
Lisa
is
reviewing
all
of
that
exact
data,
and
it
may
be
expanded
on
by
others.
In
regards
to
The
Pedestrian
safety,
the
the
police,
architectural
liaison
officer
will
be
involved,
certainly
when
the
full
application
comes
in.
C
R
Sorry
just
to
expand
on
that
as
part
of
the
design
process,
the
the
dark,
Corners
I
think
you.
You
refer
to
dark
areas.
You
referred
to
that's
all
part
of
the
analysis
during
the
design
process,
and
that
is
echoed
in
the
external
lighting
design,
the
CCTV
design
and
indeed
the
need,
in
this
instance
to
separate
the
the
Garden
area
for
the
for
the
students
from
The
Wider
public
areas.
Unfortunately,
because
of
the
society
we
all
live
in
today,
so
it
is
very
much
part
of
the
design
process.
R
It
will
be
backed
up
in
the
application
and,
as
Andrew
said,
as
will
the
analysis
on
the
highways
which
has
to
be
done
as
part
of
the
application
and
your
highways
colleagues
will
review
that
fully.
No
Doubt.
D
Just
on
the
lighting,
it's
always
been
an
intention
that,
since
the
seal
Street
will
become
an
adopted
road,
so
it
should
have
Street
lighting
so
that
you
know
obviously
the
the
main
sort
of
central
landscape
here
that
that
we
walked
up
through
today
that
remains
sort
of
private
but
Public
public
realm
and
that
that
is
lit,
but
the
road
that
goes
along
the
Northern
end
of
the
site
that
that
should
be.
You
know,
public
Highway,
which
will
have
Street
lighting
as
part
of
that
I
hope
that
reassures
you
somewhat.
B
F
Kelly,
do
you
want
to
come
back
yeah?
Thank
you.
It
doesn't
with
you
know
we
is,
is
a
is
a
CCTV
going
to
be
operational
all
through
the
era
only
during
term
time
is
the
the
security
going
to
be
on
site
only
during
term
time,
or
is
it
going
to
be
there
all
the
time
like?
Definitely
in
terms
of
the
natural
surveillance
and
the
the
residents
in
in
that
ground
floor
they
won't
be
there
over
summer
or
over
Christmas
like
I
I
I
feel
like
not
enough.
F
Thought
has
been
given
to
to
that,
and
also
in
terms
of
aspect,
I,
suppose,
I
suppose
it's
it's
kind
of
to
do
with
the
fact
that
it's
so
so
far
up
and
like
across
and
like
right
on
the
edge
of
on
the
edge
of
the
site.
F
I
can
just
see
that
there's
potential
for
for
issues
up
there
and
I
do
I.
Do
wonder
if
a
more
traditional
residential
use
might
be
better.
For
that
reason,
or
whether
there
could
be
some
active
Frontage
along
that
top
side.
I
I
think
so
there
is
the.
There
are
the
apartments
of
course.
On
the
top
side
the
student
uses
there
I
can
confirm
the
CCTV
will
be
all
year
round,
as
will
the
site
management,
because,
as
we
say
it,
it
is
a
holistic
site
with
permanent
residents
elsewhere,
also
just
to
add
in
a
lot
of
student,
buildings
do
become
occupied
in
the
summer.
So
when
the
students
moved
out,
the
do
go
into
some
short-term
terminal.
I
That's
for
that
for
that
period,
so
that
there
is
a
strong
chance,
it
will
be
occupied,
but
it
will
be
fully
managed
and
of
course
we
do
see
the
the
adjacent
block
with
this
overlooking
both
of
censor
Celia,
Street,
the
point
to
the
north,
just
which
will
be
adopted
and
then
also
looking
East.
So
there
is
quite
a
lot
of
permanent
natural
surveillance,
permanent
management
throughout
the
year
and
then
the
potential
for
that
occupation
in
the
summer
also.
B
Thank
you
for
that.
Andrew
Colin,
please
Kelsey
Campbell.
J
Thank
you
just
what
about
three
points
you
you
touched
on
the
I
think
on
the
issue
the
disabled
bears
and
access
to
them.
Now
we
we
appreciate
that
there
may
be
students
with
disabilities
who
need
a
bay
I
suppose
there
are
two
questions.
Therefore,
will
the
rest
be
available
for
the
public
and
I
think
in
particular
the
playhouse,
because
if
you
are
not
so
good
on
your
feet,
it's
quite
hard
to
get
to
the
playhouse.
J
The
other
question
is:
is
how
do
you
come
up
with
that
particular
number
of
disabled
Bears,
because
I
I'm,
trying
to
visualize
where
all
the
disabled
bears
are
on
that
site?
There
are
some
near
the
entrance
to
the
playhouse,
but
I
can't
visualize,
where
any
more
are
and
there's
quite
a
lot
of
residential
development
over
and
above
this
particular.
So
that's
that's
first
question.
J
The
second
question
is
the
thing
that
we
noticed
on
site
this
morning
was
how
drafty
it
was
so
I
think
we
will
be
asking
you
to
do
some
sort
of
win
study
because
I
think
we
all
commented.
We
were
we
weren't,
expecting
it
to
be
quite
like
that
and
I
suppose.
J
The
third
point
and
members
who
know
me
will
say
that
we're
expecting
this,
but
I
I
have
a
something
of
being
my
Bonnet
in
relation
to
accessible
greenspares
for
the
residents
and
I
know
you
talk
about
the
1.1
square
meter,
but
once
you
get
the
planting
everything
in
it
goes
down
considerably
and
439
people.
It
will
be
difficult
for
them
all
to
get
in
there.
J
I
With
respect
to
the
disabled
base,
yes,
the
availability
of
those
that
will
be
also
for
for
public
use
and
primarily
the
playhouse,
the
the
engagement
which
has
been
going
on
from
Quarry
Hill
developments
for
for
a
number
of
years,
or
so
through
the
up
prior
to
the
outline
and
through
that
and
then
more
recently,
as
really
focused
on
that
provision
and
that
requirement.
So
so
that's
been
closely
reviewed
with
them
in
terms
of
the
number
which
is
partly
driven
purely
by
the
size
of
the
site
as
well,
and
then
also
that
demand.
I
So
there
are
others
in
Playhouse
Square
which
again
will
get
used
up
because
they're
right
outside
the
front
door
of
the
playhouse,
then
this
there
is
level
access
from
there
to
the
playhouse.
So
yes
slightly
further
away,
but
it
is
level
access,
at
least
in
terms
of
the
win.
Yes,
100
of
the
wind
study
has
there's
already
been
some
work
on
it
already.
You
will
recall
block
D
was
reviews
with
respect
to
the
win,
study
and
block
a
absolutely
helps
a
lot
of
the
wind
issues
in
the
area.
I
So
there's
some
mitigation
which
goes
in
as
part
of
the
other
build,
but
that
could
actually
be
taken
away
when
this
building
comes
in,
because
it
obviously
starts
to
shelter
that
area
and
improve
things.
But
that
will
go
full.
It's
full
assessment
in
terms
of
the
2m
fire
I
made
it
different
to
Andrew
and
others
who
will
have
worked
through
this
with
a
fire
engineer.
Q
Yeah
the
the
two
calls
of
the
buildings,
obviously
firefighting
lifts
and
the
escapes
Escape
call
and
then
from
those
calls,
there's
direct
Escape
out
to
the
outside
space
and
in
terms
of
gathering
points.
R
Just
to
add
to
that
for
major,
obviously,
it's
a
very,
very
important
subject.
The
building
has
had
to
be
redesigned
from
initial
concept
to
comply
with
the
emerging
building,
safety
act
and
the
new
British
standards.
The
way
as
a
company
take
in
credit
and
our
funders
take
incredibly
seriously.
R
We've
always
sprinkled
down
our
residential
buildings,
even
in
advance
of
such
regulations
coming
in
the
the
access
for
the
the
fire
fire
department
is
that
americanism
I'm
not
sure
the
access
to
the
fire
department
is
always
considered
in
the
design
of
of
these
schemes
and
the
muster
point
where
the
residents
will
congregate
to
answer
a
direct
question
will
be
determined,
but
it
will
be
agreed
and
determined.
B
So,
okay
Colin
Council,
groom,
please
Caroline.
G
Thank
you
just
building
on
some
of
the
points
that
have
been
made
about
Green
Space
I
mean
we
are
very
keen
to
get
as
much
green
space
as
we
possibly
can
out
of
every
development
and
I
must
say,
I
did
feel
on
the
site
visit
because
you
were
saying
it
has
been
designed
really
as
part
of
the
whole
development
in
a
similar
style.
I
did
feel
it
to
be
a
bit
hard
and
better
to
be
honest
with
you.
G
So
if
there
was
any
way
of
squeezing
a
bit
more
green
in
and
in
particular
trees,
I
know,
trees
can
be
a
nuisance
because
they
drop
leaves
and
their
Roots
push
hard
surfaces
up.
But
if
they're
sensibly
planted
and
sensibly
watered
councilor
Campbell,
they
can
grow
and
we
are
very
short
of
tree
canopy.
So
it
is
one
of
our
jobs
to
try
and
get
as
many
trees
out
of
the
development
as
possible
and
I
could
see
trees
working
on
that
hard
surface
actually
very
well
and
breaking
it
up
quite
nicely.
G
So
if
you
could
think
about
that
area,
I
think
that
would
be
really
helpful.
G
The
second
thing
is,
can
you
just
take
me
through
the
materials
again?
Are
they
identical
to
the
surrounding
buildings,
or
are
they
in
any
way
different?
Can
you
just
bring
up
our
CGI
and
just
explain
what
each
of
them
is?
Please.
Q
Yeah,
sorry,
looking
to
see
you
guys
it's
easy
and
just
looking
at
this
sort
of
sample
sheets.
So
yes,
the
intention
is
that
the
the
brickwork
will
be
a
similar
brickwork
to
the
existing
buildings.
The
buildings
have
been
constructed
and
completed.
Q
Q
So
the
brickwork
will
be
similar,
there'll
be
different
detailing
on
it,
but
different
forms
of
projecting
headers
different
banding,
but
the
brickwork
itself
will
be
the
same.
The
aluminum
metallic
panels
we're
looking
at
something
which
is
in
there's
a
there's,
a
range
of
probably
five
or
six
honeycomb
gold
panels
that
are
used
across
the
site.
Some
of
them
are
all
also
included
in
the
college,
building
at
the
entrance
to
the
site
so
that
family
again
is
going
to
be
used
throughout.
Q
So
the
idea
is
that
they're
family,
but
they're
not
exactly
the
same,
so
the
the
gold
will
be
slightly
different,
slightly
different
tint.
That
again
in
the
courtyard
area,
I
think
is
important
because
it
does
give
more
reflectance
and
get
some
more
light.
Bouncing
around
gives
that
little
splitter
variation,
but
one
of
the
things
is
part
of
the
design
development.
Q
When
we
were
talking
with
officers,
was
the
actual
Tower
itself,
the
darker
Tower,
whether
that
should
be
different
or
the
same
as
Block
B
and
collectively
we've
we've
agreed
that
that
should
match
Block
B,
just
as
the
final
bit,
giving
the
Symmetry
as
you
approach
Quarry
house,
so
that
will
be
similar
in
color.
Q
Although
the
window
pattern
and
fenestration
pattern
slightly
different
because
of
the
different
uses
from
BTR
residential
to
students,
so
the
windows
typology
is
different
and
again,
with
this
building,
we've
got
a
different
ventilation
system
which
allows
us
to
introduce
the
different,
the
perforated
decorative
panels
to
the
side
windows,
which
are
the
natural
ventilation
for
the
rooms
the
base.
The
plinth
is
a
is
a
masonry
plinth,
similar
to
materials
that
we'll
be
looking
at
on
B
and
C.
Q
G
Thank
you
for
that.
What's
the
purpose
of
it
being
slightly
different,
I
mean
I'm,
I'm,
totally
open-minded,
but
but
I'm
just
interested
to
know
why
you've
made
certainly.
Q
Just
so
well,
it's
variation,
it's
it's
that
this
is
a
different
building.
It's
for
a
different
owner.
It's
a
different
use
just
to
give
that
variation,
but
it's
part
of
the
family.
It
was
always
been
the
concept
from
the
outset
that
the
buildings
are
I
say
within
within
that
overall
concept
of
a
family.
Q
Well,
the
approach:
it's
been
a
low
energy
Sustainable
Building
to
try
and
reduce
running
costs,
there's
some
obvious
things
that
we
would
do
without
fabric
first
approach,
so
we're
looking
at
low
values
and
low
air
permeability,
epca
rate
is
accommodation,
is
what
we're
targeting
and
higher
high
efficiency,
low,
Energy
Services,
so
obvious
things
like
100,
LED
lighting,
low
water
consumption
aiming
at
100,
100
leads
per
person
a
day
or
under,
but
one
of
the
the
main
things
is.
Q
This
is
the
intention
to
connect
to
leads
pipes
in
the
district
heating
system.
So
collectively
that's
that's
the
fundamental
approach.
G
Thank
you,
I'm,
not
sure
where
we
are
with
League's
pipes.
Can
anybody
advise
me
where
we've
got
to
with
it.
O
O
It
is
really
you've
talked
about
the
energy
of
the
building
construction
materials,
I
I
think
I
might
put
in
my
plea
for
more
green
space.
Please
I
mean
I
was
going
to
ask
about
construction.
O
You
know
with
a
view
to
climate
change,
but
we
are
expecting
our
summers
to
get
warmer
and
all
of
that
concrete
and
glass
might
provide
an
area-
that's
nice,
to
sit
around
in
in
the
spring,
but
certainly
not
in
the
summer,
and
it
will
be
good
to
take
note
of
that
and
and
if
we
are
expecting
it
to
be
a
well-used
area
to
provide
shaded
seating
areas
for
places
to
sit
for
people
to
sit,
sorry
and
and
possibly
grass
areas
rather
than
lots
of
concrete
I
guess
the
only
thing
that
I
possibly
would
want
a
bit
more
detail
on
is
you
talked
about
traffic
management
drop
off
and
pickup
times
at
the
beginning
of
end
of
term
they're,
going
to
be
several
hundred
students
there
and
you
you're
going
to
manage
the
times
I
understand.
O
I
Thank
you.
Yes,
it
will
be
managed
in
a
number
of
places.
I
think
and
it
will
be
using
the
lay
by
there
are.
There
is
the
Turning
area
around
the
back
and
again,
that
will
be
something
which
he'll
be
focused
up,
that
particular
time
there'll
be
engagement
with
Quarry
house
and
others
as
to
you
know.
What
are
they
expecting
to
be
to
need
in
that
area
at
that
certain
time
if
they
need
something
that
won't
be
used
in
that
space?
I
So
it's
very
much
with
the
other
stakeholders
to
see
what
is
available
on
that
certain
time
during
the
week
it
will
be
different
again
because
we've
got
the
wider
management.
We
know
that
the
building
managers
for
blocks
efbc
Etc,
whether
they've
got
an
event
on
right.
It
won't
be
on
that
day
or
it
won't
be
using
that
certain
space
that
type
of
thing,
so
it
is
very
closely
managed
with
with
the
time
slots
and
things
exactly
what
that
is.
It's
normally
with
a
planning
application.
H
Just
briefly,
I
mean
I
love
the
way
you've
broken
up
the
blocks
on
the
site,
it's
welcoming
and
just
on
the
it'll
be
nice.
Actually,
if
you
can
bring
some
samples
on
materials
when
this
comes
back
to
the
full
committee,
that
would
be
nice
to
visualize
the
samples
and
also
you
know
other,
where
the
Leeds
city
colleges,
we've
got
some
green
Walls
and
they're
really
attractive.
And
you
know
it's
just
really
nice
and
you
know
welcoming.
Is
there
any
way
we
can
explore?
Some?
H
You
know
green
Walls
within
this
development
place.
I
I'll
just
touch
on
the
first
bit
on
on
samples,
and
it's
also
the
point
of
perhaps
bringing
it
back
there.
There
is
a
question
in
the
report
as
with
block
D,
the
officers
are
asking
the
question
that
could
this
be
delegated
if
members
were
generally
comfortable
with
a
lot
of
the
principles,
I'm
sure
there's
a
mechanism
where
we
could
still
show
you
the
materials
or
separately.
But
there
is
that
question
about
it
being
been
delegated
as
well,
which
we'll
wait
to
see
what
people
say
with
the
guards
at
green
Walls.
I'll.
Q
Yeah
in
respect
to
green
Walls.
In
reality,
we've
got
such
active
ground
level
space
that
there
isn't
really
the
opportunity
to
introduce
green
Walls,
where
we,
where
we've
got
that
opportunity,
for
example,
on
Block
B
to
the
South
and
on
on
Block
C.
We've
introduced,
green
Walls
and
and
but
on
on
this
particular
Block.
It's
generally
fenestration
or
active
spaces,
overlooking
so
there's
limited
opportunity,
but
we
do
have
quite
significant
landscape
banding.
You
know
to
the
street
Edge
along
Saint,
Celia
Street.
Q
We've
got
landscape
and
hedging
and
landscaping
around
the
northern
face
of
the
building
where
IT
addresses
the
Footbridge
and
around
that
particular
corner.
So
where?
Where
possible,
we've
introduced
green
spaces
again
against
the
building,
but
not
actually
green
walls,
because,
as
I
say,
that
means
that
opportunity.
I
And
I'll
just
touch
on
again
because
it
was
repeated
that
the
request
for
more
green
space
and
more
trees
I
do
know
the
Landscape
Architects
he's
watching
the
stream
at
the
moment.
So
they'll
pick
up
on
that.
We'll
pick
up
that
with
them
and
we'll
look
to
incorporate
and
acknowledge
those
comments
here,.
N
And
click
here,
I
think
the
members,
it's
a
very
subtle
design
and
I
do
think
we'll
be
moving
yeah,
it's
post-modernism
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
all
very
suitable.
The
only
thing
I
would
mention
is
that
we
will
be
moving
towards
conditioning
to
give
you
some
Assurance
the
reveal
debts
so
that
the
model
the
facade
is
modeling
the
the
light
and
the
shade
we've
had
some
sort
of
buildings
of
this
scale.
N
Where
did
or
didn't
condition,
it
was
an
argument,
but
we
will
be
you
know,
you'll
be
getting
a
decent
reveal
depth
with
this
one,
usually
well.
It
will
certainly
be
going
for
a
minimum
of
a
brick,
probably
more
so
I
just
thought:
I'd
try
and
offer
that
reassurance
with
the
elevations
as
well,
that
were,
we
won't
be
offering
you
a
flat
facade,
that's
featureless,
Etc.
Thank
you.
Members.
B
Thank
you,
Stephen
I've
just
got
one
question
quick
question.
Before
we
move
on
to
comments,
the
bicycle
storage:
will
there
be
electric
charging
points
for
it?
More
and
more,
you
see
electric
bikes
on
the
road
and
although
students
are
usually
young
and
fit
some
of
them,
perhaps
it's
all
uphill
to
University,
I
guess
and
will
that
happen?
I
I
really
don't
know
so,
quick,
yes
or
no,
really
answer.
Q
Certainly
something
what
we're
looking
at,
but
also
taking
on
board
sort
of
safety
concerns
about
the
EV
charging
internally,
because
that's
also
something
which
is
kind
of
part
of
the
sort
of
news
at
the
moment.
So,
yes,
we
have
the
safe,
secure
bicycle
storage,
say
external
to
that
we're
looking
at
introducing
the
EV
bike
club
as
part
of
the
Leeds
Network,
something
we'll
be
looking
at.
B
Well,
that's
useful,
but
you
know
I
mean
if
they
were
to
take
it
into
their
rooms
and
be
more
dangerous,
wouldn't
they
you
know
yeah
for
charging,
so
you
know
I,
think
really
they're
best
in
a
in
a
bike
storage
area
where
you
often
incorporate
and
other
schemes
bike,
repairing
schemes
for
changing,
tires
and
such
for
maintenance
and
provide
a
tooling
for
that
as
well.
So
I
think
that's
really
a
consideration.
You
should
take
on
board.
The
last
thing
we
want
to
do
or
I'd
want
to
do
is
have
an
inside
my
home.
R
Should
I
pick
up
on
that
picture,
the
the
capability
for
electric
bike
charging,
the
the
the
asset
will
be
future
proofed
to
for
to
allow
for
that
there,
as
as
Andrew's
just
referred
to
as
quite
a
lot
of
it's
a
Hot
Topic
at
the
moment
about
charging
cars
and
bikes
within
buildings,
and
the
insurance
Market
has
reacted
to
to
that
very
topic.
So,
no
doubt
suitable
strategies
will
be
devised
over
the
coming
months.
R
That
will
that
will
allow
that
to
happen,
it's
easier
with
the
car
charging,
because
it's
a
standard
type
of
equipment
with
in
this
currently
in
the
Cycle
Electric
cycle
World,
there
are
a
number
of
different
types.
Therefore,
it's
less
standardized
so
as
soon
as
the
we
need
to
deliver
a
scheme
that
is
obviously
safe.
So
as
soon
as
we're
comfortable
with
that,
we
can
install
the
provision.
D
And
thank
you
just
to
add
into
that,
and
it
is
a
requirement
in
the
transport
SPD
for
provision
Pro
Electric,
about
charging
and
to
be
provided
in
in
bike
storage,
and
so
we
will
be
working
with
the
that
plants
to
meet.
You
know
sure
that
we
have
some
provision.
E
The
only
thing
I
was
going
to
add
is
quite
a
lot
of
the
bikes
that
are,
electric
bikes,
have
a
removable
battery
I,
take
mine
off
and
take
it
into
the
house,
and
what's
important
about
that
is
the
battery
is
worth
probably
half
the
cost
of
the
bike
about
500
pounds
probably
use
the
battery,
so
I
always
take
the
battery
out
of
mine
and
put
it
in
the
house
rather
than
leave
it
in
the
shed.
So
then,
all
you're,
taking
is
one
chunky
device
that
you
plug
into
the
wall
at
home.
B
Certainly
raised
a
an
issue:
I'm
not
sure
we
have
a
have
a
policy
on
it
actually
from
from
talking
to
John,
but
maybe
it's
something
that
we
need
to
consider
more
carefully
around
this
table.
Okay,
I
think
that
exhaust
questions
can
we
move
on
to
comments
now
on
Dan
yeah
I
promise
you
coming
could
come
in.
First,
that's
very
kind.
If
you.
K
Check
I
feel
like
a
bit
of
a
broken
record,
but
I'm
going
to
say
this
anyway,
because
it's
another
student
development,
yet
another
student
development
and
I
have
nothing
against
students
or
student
developments,
but
I
am
becoming
increasingly
concerned
that
every
significant
development
in
the
city
center
is
precisely
that
students
are
around
for
about
30
weeks
of
the
year.
That
means
for
just
under
half
of
the
year
they're,
not
there.
K
Yes,
during
the
summer,
sometimes
there
is
some
usage
of
student
accommodation
that
the
plethora
of
availability
means
that
that's
certainly
not
all
the
case,
and
it
is
certainly
not
for
the
anything
approaching
the
20
weeks
that
these
are
vacant.
It
means
that
where
these
are,
when
the
students
are
not
there,
it
feels
like
a
ghost
town.
K
Yes,
it's
managed,
but
that
just
means
it's
safe
inside
it
doesn't
do
anything
for
the
outside
and
we
are
shortly
going
to
be
asked
whether
we
support
the
proposed
use
of
block
a
for
student
accommodation
and
personally
chair
I.
Don't
there
comes
a
point
where,
for
me,
I
have
to
start
saying:
I
can't
just
keep
supporting
time
and
time
again
more
and
more
student
accommodation
when
there
is
an
oversupply,
it
would
seem
to
me.
Thank
you.
Chuck.
P
Thank
you
chair
just
on
the
student
Point
Council
Cohen,
just
to
to
help
at
the
moment.
Our
understanding
from
a
policy
point
of
view
is
that
there's
still
opportunities
and
there's
still
a
need
to
be
met
more
strategically.
The
work
we're
doing
through
the
local
plan
review
is
looking
at
a
strategic
housing
market
assessment,
which
is
reviewing
the
full
extent
of
housing
need
across
the
district
as
part
of
Leeds
2040
plan,
so
that
will
provide
an
assessment
in
terms
of
an
empirical
piece
of
technical
work.
P
Looking
at
all
sorts
of
housing
needs,
including
students.
So
hopefully
that
will
give
us
a
little
bit
more
clarity
for
this
panel
and
then
just
on
your
point
about
student
of
this,
this
site
just
to
remind
members.
This
is
part
of
a
mixed
development
more
widely,
and
this
is
just
one
component
of
that
wider
mix
on
that
site.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
David
could
I
come.
K
Back,
you
do
you
say
I'm
funny
in
many
ways,
because
if
I
asked
a
question,
I
expect
that
there's
a
capacity
within
that
to
give
a
yes
or
no
answer,
but
the
chief
planning
officer
is
essentially
saying
well,
you
might
not
agree,
but
actually
councilor
Cohen.
It
doesn't
matter
what
you
think
you
have
to.
You
have
to
support
the
proposed
useful
student
accommodation
because
you've
no
alternative,
in
which
case,
why
bother
asking
us
the
question?
Don't
bother
with
that?
Don't
insult
our
intelligence
with
it
just
say.
K
B
B
Colin.
Please.
J
I
think
that
Dan
has
a
point
in
in
some
way
in
that
there
is
a
discussion
to
be
had
about
how
much
of
the
city
center
or
how
wide
an
area
across
the
city
is
only
occupied
by
students
and
sorry,
if
I
ramble
a
bit
before
we
come
back
to
you
and
if
you
remember
those
are
long
enough
in
the
tooth.
The
headingly
argument
that
that
headingley
effectively
died
as
a
community,
because
for
30
weeks
of
the
year
it
was
full
of
students
and
then
for
the
other
20
audits.
J
J
So
I
look
at
the
the
Debenhams
development,
which
is
happening
at
the
moment
and
I.
Think
actually,
if
we
get
people
into
there
into
that
thing,
it
will
put
people
on
the
ground
during
the
evening
in
what's
currently
a
pretty
dead
area.
J
But
I
do
accept
that
if
the
only
things
that
we
ever
built
in
a
circle
around
the
city's
head
to
a
student
Flats,
there's
a
problem
this
this
one
I
speaking
in
your
defense-
is
slightly
different.
In
my
opinion,
in
that
on
the
original
master
plan,
this
was
the
multi-story
car
park
which,
if
you
remember
I,
said
I,
don't
think
we
should
get
rid
of,
but
there
we
are-
and
there
was
residential
accommodation
around
it.
Now
that
residential
accommodation
has
or
is
being
provided.
E
J
Yeah
all
right
young
people,
then,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
there
isn't
it
the
the
residents
as
in
full-time
residents,
will
be
on
that
side,
and
this
is
like
an
extra
group
of
people,
so
you
will
achieve
I.
Think
a
balance
there.
J
Just
on
a
couple
of
straight
points:
I
we
waffled
a
bit
around
Mike
charging,
but
I
think
I
would
be
hoping
that
when
you
come
back,
if
we
agree
all
the
rest
of
it,
you
will
have
a
scheme
because
I
worry
we're
the
best
will
in
the
world
that,
if
you
say
well
sometime
in
the
future,
we
might
we
will
be
able
to
we'll,
never
know
whether
it
happens
so
I
think
a
bank
charging
scheme
is
important.
It's
not
a
complicated
thing.
J
There
are
various
developments
that
have
already
got
this
in
place
and
I
think
the
point
in
regard
to
pick
up
and
drop
off
and
deliveroo
and
all
the
rest
of
it
is
a
really
valid
one
of
the
things
that
we've
noticed
if
we've
ever
been
out
to
look
at
sites
where
student
Flats
have
are
already
in
place
is,
and
if
you
notice
it
particularly
over
here.
J
If
you're
walking
around
the
corner,
you're
always
running
into
a
deliveroo
driver,
an
Uber
driver
Etc,
so
there's
actually
a
substantial
amount
of
vehicle
traffic
associated
with
student
accommodation,
probably
more
so
than
normal
residential
because
of
their
lifestyle
and
I.
Think
it's
very
important
that
we
you
recognize
that
and
make
provision
for
that,
because,
if
not,
it
pushes
the
problem
somewhere
else.
C
Well,
I
suspect
it's
been
lies
of
being
covered
in
the
subsequent
comments
made,
but
as
councilor
Campbell
alluded
to,
there
is
a
significant
element
of
residential
accommodation
within
this
particular
development.
C
Notwithstanding
the
certainly
my
view
very
valid
comments
about
an
overconcentration
of
student
accommodation,
perhaps
in
other
parts
of
the
city
and
the
impact
that
has
during
the
summer
months,
but
yes,
this
is
part
of
a
mixed
development.
I
think
we've
asked
the
question
here,
because
this
is
moving
away
from
the
master
plan
that
didn't
envisage
such
amount
of
student
accommodation
in
this
location.
C
C
We've
now
moved
away
from
that
to
student
accommodation,
so,
as
councilor
Campbell
said,
it
wasn't
envisaged
to
be
residential
in
any
event
and
we're
actually
getting
more
residents,
albeit
some
of
them
here
not
full
year
round
on
the
development
itself.
So
it's
basically
that's
why
we've
included
that
question
in
the
the
number
of
questions
that
we're
asking
today,
but
certainly
understand
the
querying
of
that
point
by
councilor
Cohen.
B
G
Yeah,
it's
it's
on
the
issue
of
student
accommodation,
again,
I
I
am
getting
nervous.
G
Several
years
ago
now
we
had
a
session,
didn't
we
where
we
invited
the
University
and
higher
education
providers
and
our
planners,
and
we
went
through
the
research
and
studies
that
have
been
carried
out
in
order
to
identify
need
and
at
the
end
of
that
session,
to
my
surprise,
I
was
I
was
satisfied
that
there
was
sufficient
need,
at
least
for
the
for
the
schemes
that
we
were
considering
and
that
were
coming
through
at
the
time
that
was
several
years
ago
and
I
am
astonished
at
the
amount
of
student
accommodation
that
we
are
approving,
I
mean
I,
know,
we've
got
to
look
at
what's
in
front
of
us
and-
and
you
know,
judge
it
on
it's
merits
for
what
it
is.
G
But
I
am
very,
very
nervous,
because
if
it's
not
student
accommodation,
it's
going
to
be
co-living,
so
we're
really
recreating
we're
redesigning
our
city
without
the
the
design
being
generated
from
us
as
as
a
city,
it's
being
done
to
us
and
I
still
think
it's
a
lot
student
accommodation
I
really
do
think
it's
a
lot.
I
mean
these
circumstances
can
change
so
quickly.
Can't
they,
you
know,
are
some
of
our
over
student
overseas.
Students
might
have
good
reason
not
to
come
anymore
and
not
not
not
use
our
accommodation.
G
All
sorts
of
things
could
happen
to
change
the
profile
and
then
what
would
we
have?
A
lot
of
student
accommodation
that
was
not
not
in
use,
so
I
am
really
worried
and
I
think
we
need
to
organize
another
one
of
those
sessions
to
re-look
at
the
data
and
reassess
our
position.
I
mean
I
know
that
developers
wouldn't
develop
something
they
didn't
think
they
could
either
sell
or
occupy.
Obviously,
but
it
just
doesn't
feel
right
and
I
think
we
need
to
have
another
look
with
regard
to
this
development.
G
B
Thanks
Carolina
you're,
quite
right,
we
did
look
at
this.
I
seem
to
remember
when
Peter
was
a
question
he
frequently
asked
and
we
did
have
a
session
and
I
know.
Dave
has
listened
very
carefully.
It
might
be
something
that
we
might
need
to
revisit
and
look
at
the
Now
situation
rather
than
three
or
four
years
ago.
But
I
agree
with
you.
You
can't
really
say
too
much
in
In
Praise
of
a
multi-historic
car
park,
Casey
I'll
get
a
feeling
you
want
to
come
in
on
this
ski
on
this
issue.
O
Thank
you,
yeah,
just
three
things
really.
The
first
one
is
as
a
new
member
I
would
most
definitely
welcome
the
session
that
you
outlined.
I
I,
think
that
would
be
really
helpful
and
then
two
questions
really
one
is
about
the
policy.
I
was
just
picking
up
on.
You
know,
councilor
Cohen's
points
that
has
brought
us
to
this.
O
The
discussion
and
just
re-looking
at
policy
h6b,
which
is
in
our
papers,
talks
about
taking
pressure
off
the
need
for
private
housing
land
to
be
used
to
avoid
the
the
loss
of
existing
housing
suitable
for
family
accommodation.
In
do
we
have
evidence
that
building
more
blocks
of
student
accommodation?
Does
that
or
do
they
just
spend
a
year
in
there
and
still
want
to
go
out
to
a
family
house?
So
you
you
kind
of
I
I
and
then
the
second
one
was
just
thinking
about
the
use
of
the
space
and
I
guess.
O
This
is
directed
back
at
that
end
of
the
room
that
students
come
in
different
shapes
and
sizes.
Don't
they
so
they're
they're
undergraduate
students
who
will
largely
come
and
do
their
three
terms
and
your
right
will
be
not
there
for
most
of
the
year
yeah
three
terms,
three
or
four
years,
then
they're
done.
O
But
you
know
they're
also
PhD
students
will
there
be
the
opportunity
for
students
who
maybe
are
doing
I,
don't
know?
Are
you
in
industry,
or
you
know,
post-grad
study
or
who
may
want
a
longer
term,
let
to
say
actually
I'd
like
to
be
in
Leeds
for
the
whole
year.
O
B
We
are
in
comments,
but
I,
don't
mind,
I,
don't
mind
the
response,
but
I
don't
want
to
reopen
questions
again.
Obviously,
old
comments
are
captured
and
they
will
be
addressed
when
it
comes
back.
If
it
comes
back
and
members
will
decide
off
pretty
soon,
but
if
you
want
one
quick
comment
on
that,
then
just
to
remind
it
to
everybody,
we
are
on
questions.
We
are
on
comments.
I
Yeah
absolutely
the
answer
is:
is
yes
to
the
PhD
students
and
those
others
up
that
you
touched
on.
That
would
be
open
and
one
thing,
perhaps
just
to
flag
up
and
we'll
discuss
further
with
officers.
The
6106
legal
agreement
often
requires
full-time
occupation
by
sorry
occupation
by
full-time
students
and
that's
to
avoid
it
turning
into
a
typical
residential
use
and
that's
a
bit
to
do
with
affordable
housing
and
other
elements.
So
that
might
be
just
something
that
we
look
at
in
the
106
agreement.
I
B
Okay:
okay,
no
we'll
sort
of
get
back
to
Commerce,
but
thank
you
for
that
answer!
Can
I
bring
in
Ascot
please.
H
Thank
you,
chair,
I'm,
going
to
really
be
brief,
because
a
lot
of
comments,
what
I'm
going
to
say,
has
been
already
expressed
or
really
thoroughly
productively
by
councilor
coin
and
also
coloring
gluing,
as
as
the
plants
panel
can
remember,
I've
been
asking
for
a
long
time
for
a
report
on
especially
on
the
student
accommodation
and
the
strategy
where
we
need
to
go
forward
and
before
me
was
councilor.
Peter
Gruen
who's
been
asking
all
these
kind
of
questions
and
with
not
getting
anywhere
but
I
agree
with
your
cancer
coin.
H
You
know
when
you
go,
especially
when
the
students
go
back
and
those
areas
become
like
a
ghost
areas
and
I
think
we
need
to
move
away
from
there.
Just
coming
back
to
this
development,
I
want
to
see
more
green
space,
less
concrete
slabs
on
the
ground
and
also
I.
Think
chair.
I
think
this
application
needs
to
come
back
because
there's
a
few,
you
know
valuable
questions
we
will
have
asked
and
there
needs
to
be
go
through
the
plans
panel
as
well,
especially
with
the
wind
report.
H
We
need
to
see
that
wind
report
and
also
the
other
question
we
have
asked
previously.
M
I
just
came
to
kind
of
deja
vu,
because
every
time
I
come
to
Japan
I'm
meeting,
we
ask
for
a
report
to
be
brought
to
development
plans
panel
on
the
need
for
student
accommodation,
and
we
keep
being
told
yes
it's
in
preparation.
Well,
when
is
it
going
to
be
in
preparation,
because
we've
also
had
quite
a
lengthy
debate
on
cool
living
this
year,
where
we
didn't
reach
any
great
conclusion?
M
If
we
to
the
truth
be
told,
but
you
know
so
everything's
coming
together
and
it
we
can't
keep
it's
just
taking
it
on
a
short-term
basis,
all
the
time,
our
role
here
at
least
I
thought
my
rule
here
is
to
look
at
things
strategically,
not
necessarily
to
get
involved
in
the
minutia
of
it.
There
are
greater
minds
in
mind
that
can
deal
with
that,
and
my
job
is
to
be
a
Nations
and
say
well.
What
about
the
impact
of
this
and
I
am
being
a
bit
worried,
nothing
against
what
you're
planning
to
do
baby?
M
P
Thank
you,
I
was
just
speaking
to
council
McKenna
about
it.
The
work
I
mentioned
before
the
Strategic
housing
market
assessment
is
a
piece
of
work
that
we've
commissioned
in
support
of
Leeds
2040,
which
is
the
local
Plan
update,
essentially
that
we're
working
on
that
piece
of
work
is
in
production
as
we
speak,
so
we'd
hope
we
can
bring
that
back
to
development
plan
panel
before
the
end
of
the
year,
at
least
some
initial
findings
from
it.
P
M
What
my
point
is
that
cancer
Gruen
pointed
out
a
number
of
years
ago.
She
was
that
satisfied
at
that
particular
point
in
history,
and
at
that
time
there
would
have
been
a
figure
mentioned.
I,
don't
know
what
the
figure
was
of
the
potential
need.
That's
been.
If
we
then
from
that
look
at
how
many
planning
applications
have
been
submitted,
how
many
have
been
approved,
generating
X
number
of
units
as
a
result
of
that
you've
then
got
to
see
if
there
is
a
balance,
a
deficit
still
in
the
going.
M
We
then
can
get
some
basic
information
from
University.
What
sort
of
growth
and
student
numbers
there
has
or
hasn't
been
over
that
same
period
of
time,
and
even
if
you
just
give
us
a
basic
figure
that
were
2
000
short
for
example,
then
at
least
we've
got
something
to
play
with
by
saying
right:
okay,
this
is
going
to
go,
contribute
to
10
of
that.
That's
quite
good
right.
Why
can't
we
do
that?
Go
back
to
the
information
that
councilor
Gruen
mentioned,
because
that
must
be
minuteed
somewhere.
M
B
We
we
do
have
a
DPP
on
on
Tuesday.
Is
it,
but
we've
also
got
a
meeting
of
the
chairs
of
the
three
panel
and
I
I
think
we
will
raise
it.
We'll
ask
David,
and
the
officers
to
there
might
be
an
interim
update
that
we
could
do
quickly
rather
than
the
end
of
the
year.
I
think
it's
perfectly
feasible
and
I'm
sure,
as
councilor
groom
and
his
chair
of
DPP
she'll
ensure
that
it's
going
to
come
before
as
quickly
as
possible
comment.
Please
well.
G
G
G
Panel
members,
it's
a
it's
an
item
for
perhaps
even
all
members
actually
so
I
would
I
would
bill
it
as
training
rather
than
a
DPP
meeting,
although
I'd
be
very
happy
to
discuss
it
at
DPP
and
to
decide
how
this
should
be
presented.
I
don't
think.
Dpp
is
particularly
wide
enough
for
those
things
to
be
registered
by
as
many
people
as
possible.
So
yes,
let's
mention
it
at
DPP,
let's
discuss
where
it
needs
to
go
by
when
but
I
think
this.
G
G
I
would
hope
we
can
report
as
soon
as
practicable
on
that
and
does
that
in
that
includes
the
land
analysis
as
well
as
the
housing
needs.
P
M
In
that
case,
Jonathan,
are
there
any
applications
in
the
pipeline
where
we
need
to
get?
You
know
of
a
similar
nature
that
we're
going
to
have
over
the
next
two
or
three
months
so
that
we
don't
keep
repeating
that
I
mean
it
is
a
bit
just
Deja
Vu
every
time
we
have
the
same
discussion
every
time.
So
if
we
know
that
there's
six
applications
coming
in
the
pipeline,
we
need
to
be
aware
of
that,
so
that
we
can.
J
Think
so
I'm
I'm
sitting
here
getting
increasingly
frustrated
and
forgive
me
for
saying
it
boom.
What
we're
discussing
now
is
nothing
to
do
with.
What's
on
the
agenda
now,
I
think
it's
quite
happy
I'm
quite
happy
to
sit
and
have
this
discussion,
but
I
think
you
know
we're
the
best
rule
in
the
world
I'm
sure
it's
really
entertaining
for
you
for
I'm
sure
you're
sitting
there
thinking.
J
Oh
this
goes
on
for
another
half
hour,
but
can
I
suggest
that
we
actually
deal
with
what
we're
supposed
to
be
dealing
with
and
then
I'm
quite
happy
to
stay
behind
and
have
a
long
knock
about
about?
J
B
I
think
we
have
had
a
way
forward.
You
know
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
can't
stop
members
from
raising
an
issue
that
stated
hard.
I
do
apologize
to
the
applicants,
because,
obviously
you
didn't
come
here
to
listen
to
that
that
debate,
but
it
has
been
a
concern
for
members
for
over
the
years
as
Andrew
certainly
will
know
that
from
East
his
time
sitting
around
the
panel
on
both
sides
of
the
table.
But
let's,
let's
move
on.
Yes,
we
have
a
plan
and
we
will
look
at
it
and
it.
B
L
Yeah
well
I'm
I'm,
not
going
to
mention
numbers,
but
I'll
just
make
a
point:
I'll
be
much
more
confident.
If
something
came
to
us,
we
plan
B.
If
you
know,
if
the
mark,
you
know,
we
have
loads
and
loads
of
applications.
Although
we've
passed
a
lot
of
numbers
coming
in,
some
of
them
will
will
never
see
the
light
today,
but
I'll
be
much
more
confident
if
there
was
within
that
a
plan
B
what
you
do
if
Market
changes,
because
and
that's
really
all
are
we
well
how
you
know
what
is
Plan
B
again.
B
Apologies
right:
we
do
have
a
plan
B
and
we
do
have
a
plan
C.
It
can
be
converted
into
residential
fairly
easily.
It
could
become
offices,
so
there
isn't
there,
but
hopefully
people
would
not
want
developers
would
not
want
to
build
a
student,
a
residential
accommodation
if
they
weren't
quite
sure
there
was
a
market
for
it.
But
there
is
a
plan
B
and
there
is
a
plan
C.
Can
we
move
on?
Please
I
saw
your
hand.
E
Thank
you,
chair,
I
was
going
to
move
us
on
I
mean
my
thoughts.
Are
that
probably
some
people
down
the
end
of
the
table
have
spent
a
bob
or
two
working
out
whether
there's
feasibility
for
a
student
development
on
this
site,
and
they
will
have
to
see
if
it's
empty,
I'm
sure
they
will
have
to
do
something
to
move
on.
It
is
yeah
and
I.
Don't
know
whether
at
the
moment,
they
probably
know
better
than
we
do
I'd
say
some
reasonably
happy.
E
What
I'm
happy
with
in
this
is
is
that
mixed
development,
the
concerns
I've
had
over
when
we've
had
student
developments
have
been
when
there
has
been
purely
a
student
development
on
its
own
in
a
commercial
or
Industrial
Area.
E
This
looks
like
a
nice
mixed
Development
Across,
the
the
Landscaping,
a
number
of
things
we've
already
approved
it
outlined
so
I
know
that
doesn't
really
come
into
it,
but
I'm
reasonably
happy,
given
that
it's
noted
that
my
concerns
around
where
the
vehicles
are
going
to
go
and
and
the
taxi
pick
up
and
the
28
different
delivery
companies
that
follow
each
other
to
every
building
will
be
covered.
So
I'm
reasonably
happy
with
with
this
as
it
is
and
and
happy
to
see,
progress
to
to
coming
back
to
us.
B
Peter
I
think
we
can
move
on
then.
So
if
we
can
turn
now
to
page
25,
there
are
four
questions
to
be
answered
by
members.
If
I
go
through
them
one
by
one
first,
one
subject
to
confirmation
of
detailed
proposal:
do
members
support
the
probe
proposed
end
use
of
block
a
for
student
accommodation.
B
Yes,
I
think
that's
a
general,
yes
yep
I'm
sure
that's
a
relief
to
the
developers
at
the
back
two
do
members
agree
that
the
appearance
on
scale
and
setting
of
the
proposed
building
is
acceptable.
B
B
Very
good
point:
Thank,
You
Colin
and
the
fourth
one
I'm
sure
I
know
the
answer
to
sorry.
B
I,
assume
and
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
the
next
question,
although
if
I
was
a
betting
man
which
I'm
not
I'm,
pretty
sure
I
do
that
will
be
addressed
when
it
comes
back
to
us,
I'm
sure
I
mean
the
points
have
been
made
by
members
and
they're
here
to
listen
to
members.
Opinions
I
know
that
okay
on
the
crucial
one,
then
on
the
basis
of
officers
and
the
appla
applicants
addressing
any
matter
raise
that
panel.
Our
members
agreeable
to
the
full
planning
application
being
determined
on
the
delegated
powers.
B
No,
that's
a
general!
No
does
anybody
think
you
should
come?
We
should
do
that.
No
I
think
that's
unanimous.
That's
what
I'm
trying
to
to
send
a
powerful
message
to
you.
I
know:
Andrew!
You
tried
hard.
Okay,
I!
Think
that
concludes
our
business
today
and,
as
usual,
it's
always
exciting
around
this
table.
Isn't
it
yeah,
but
thank
you
for
your
time
and
safe
journey
home
and
I
will
share
before.
J
We
go
I
really
I'm,
sorry
about
this,
but
we
really
do
need
to
bottom
what
in
God's
name,
we
want
the
officers
to
do
in
relation
to
all
this
we've
had
about
students
now,
I
think
I.
Think
we
accept
Caroline
that
that
that
meeting
that
you
and
I
and
various
other
people
went
to
with
the
universities
was
a
very
valuable
meeting.
It
really
opened
our
eyes,
I,
think
and
I
think
it's
important
that
somebody-
maybe
it's
this.
Maybe
it's
yourself
I'm
looking
up
at
the
top
of
the
table,
girls
out
and
we
organize
another
one.
J
So
we
understand
what
the
current
market
is
and
once
we
understand
what
the
current
market
is
I
think
that's
the
point
where
we
have
to
sit
down
and
we
have
to
make
a
policy
and
it
can
be
a
temporary
policy
and
then
linked
into
the
development
plan
about
how
we
deal
with
the
the
agglomeration
I
suppose
of
student
blocks
and
that
I'm
saying
I
I
think
that's
what
we're
asking
officers
to
do
at
the
moment
and
if
we're
not
doing
that,
can
somebody
tell
me
I.
B
Think
we
are
as
well
and
I
I
just
like
to
say
to
the
developers
as
far
as
I'm
concerned
the
meeting
concluded
a
minute
ago,
but
these
nevertheless
are
valuable
points
because
they
will
come
up
again.
We
know
that
next
time,
there's
a
student
lock,
so
I
would
ask
David
to
consider
that
take
it
away
and
and
get
back
to
as
soon
as
we
can,
we
maybe
be
able
to
have
an
interim
update
and
we'd
be
valuable
to
member
to
members
to
actually
know
that,
and
the
other
thing
I'd
ask
them
to
consider.
B
Is
electric
charging
for
bicycles
and
thank
you
for
pieces
telling
us
how
much
these
batteries
cost.