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The
rooms
have
been
set
out
to
maximize
ventilation
and
it's
measuring
co2,
but
the
reason
we're
not
opening
the
windows
is
because
that
has
an
effect
on
the
measuring
capacity.
I
am
told,
but,
and
also
I'm
all
advised,
that
it
city
center
plans
the
other
day
one
of
the
windows
either
smashed
or
fell
in
or
as
a
result
of
it.
A
I
A
G
A
Formally
record
our
apologies
in
that
case
right
item
six.
The
minutes.
Are
we
happy
to
formally
approve
the
minutes?
The
the
only
update
I've
got
is
minute
nine.
I
did
attend
the
strategy
and
resources
scrutiny
board
the
other
day
to
look
into
the
terms
of
reference
for
the
joint
review
that
we're
carrying
out
and
more
will
be
advised
to
members
as
and
when
we
are
meeting
right
now.
A
The
next
item
is
meant
was
meant
to
be
the
deputy
mayor
for
crime
and
policing
who
is
still
coming,
but
in
order
to
keep
the
meeting
moving
along,
I
accept
tensor
of
feet's,
not
here,
but
we'll
move
on
to
item
eight.
We
will
move
on
to
item
eight,
which
is
the
report
on
housing
activity.
Update
is
monday
still
meant
to
be
coming.
I
accept
that
she
probably
thought
she
didn't
need
to
come
as
early
as
this.
A
I
I'm
happy
to
give
a
brief
overview
of
the
housing
activity
council
and
then
yeah
and
then
take
questions.
If
that's
okay,
that's
good
morning,
everybody,
I
think
the
first
thing
when
you
when
you
look
through
the
report,
is
rent
collection
and
on
the
whole,
as
a
service,
we
would
still
be
performing
extremely
strong.
I
I
Their
rent
would
have
been
paid
direct
out
of
that,
whereas
now
they
need
to
pay
it
and
if
they
don't,
we
need
to
take
action
to
bring
that
money
in.
So
it's
just
really
sharing
with
the
panel
that
we
think
this
year
is
the
rest
of
this
year
is
going
to
be
a
challenge
for
us
around
collection,
but
we're
hoping
that
we
communicate
levels
at
least
96.
I
I
We've
got
a
lot
more
of
a
staff
out
on
the
estates
now
going
around,
carrying
out
walkabouts
and
actually
crossing
the
threshold
with
people's
properties
and
talking
to
them
and
and
you'll,
just
not
in
the
report
that
we
carried
out
about
237
walkabouts,
just
in
quarter
one
to
give
you
an
assurance
that
that
work
is
now
happening
as
annual
tenancy
contact
program.
That's
changed
from
the
annual
home
visits
that
we
used
to
do
previously.
I
We've
started
that
figures
refer
in
the
pack
to
about
two
percent
complete
in
the
first
quarter.
That's
two
percent
of
those
that
we
said
we
would
continue
to
do
via
face
to
face,
rather
than
other
telephone
or
by
other
means,
and
we're
expecting
that
to
increase
considerably
before
the
end
of
the
calendar
year.
I
Responsive
repairs,
as
he's
noted
in
the
purple,
we
we're
continuing
to
reduce
the
backlog
that
we've
got
at
speak.
We
had
a
backlog
of
just
over
20
000,
we've
reduced
that
now
to
just
under
nine
thousand,
but
we
still
have
some
challenges
and
and
the
main
challenges
there,
which
are
covered
in
the
paper,
is
around
the
supply
chain
and
the
ability
for
us
to
get
materials
to
carry
out
works
is
also
a
challenge
around
the
labor
force
as
well,
and
getting
trades
people
in
to
repair
our
properties.
I
So
we'd
have
an
action
plan
in
place.
We're
working
through
that
with
our
contractors
and
our
goal
at
this
moment
in
time
is
to
have
that
backlog
reduced
down
to
similar
levels
pre-pandemic
by
the
end
of
the
financial
year.
So
the
end
of
march
next
year,
obviously
that's
dependent
on
things,
improving
and
supply
chains
easing
over
the
next
few
months
and
we'll
keep
screwing
up
to
board
as
we
progress
through
that.
I
I
We
also
mentioned
a
previous
scrutiny
that
we
were
looking
at
a
blank
canvas
approach
for
our
voids
as
well,
and
that's
to
get
them
into
a
better
condition
for
when
our
customers
move
in
and
we've
started
doing
that
now
with
our
empty
properties.
But,
of
course,
that's
more
work
that
we've
got
to
do
so
that
potentially
delays
a
little
bit
longer
before
they're
available
for
customers
to
move
in
have
spoke
to
a
number
of
members
separately,
and
there
is
cases
where
we
still
think.
I
I
In
terms
of
asset
management,
there's
a
further
further
management
going
next,
which
nahin
is
going
to
deliver
so
more
points
on
that
customer
contact
and
engagement.
I
think
the
main
thing
to
pull
out
of
the
report
for
members
is:
the
service
has
seen
an
increase
in
complaints
coming
through
and
that's
predominantly
around
the
delay.
We've
got
in
being
able
to
get
out
and
improve
our
properties
or
carry
out
repairs
and
the
same
reasons
for
that
apply
to
the
repairs
and
and
voids,
but
again
we've
we've
tweaked
our
service.
I
We've
now
got
a
particular
team
in
place.
That's
dealing
with
those
inquiries
we're
hoping
to
keep
those
customers
better,
engaged
and
updated
about
when
the
work's
going
can
happen
for
retirement
life.
We've
now
re-mobilized
our
service
we've
now
got
staff
going
in
and
speaking
to
our
elderly
customers
on
a
regular
basis.
We've
also
opened
up
the
communal
rooms
as
well.
I
One
of
the
challenges
we've
had
in
that
area
is
how
we
could
help
those
customers
that
were
suffering
from
social
isolation
because
of
the
pandemic
and
not
being
able
to
use
the
facilities
that
we
have,
but
I'm
glad
to
say
that
that
has
now
been
resolved
in
terms
of
homelessness.
That's
still
a
strong
area
of
work
for
the
service,
we're
still
preventing
homelessness
for
people
that
contact
us
of
about
90
and
to
remind
you,
the
national
figures,
just
under
60
percent.
I
So
so,
ladies,
is
doing
it
extremely
well
there
and
our
temporary
accommodation
numbers
continue
to
remain
low
at
round
about
the
50
mark.
At
the
moment,
that's
jumped
up
slightly
from
last
scripting
at
30,
because
we
have
brought
a
hotel
in
now
to
help
us
support
some
of
the
real
vulnerable
customers
that
we've
got
particularly
some
of
the
rough
sleepers
that
we've
been
unable
to
engage
with,
with
the
offer
that
we
have
around
the
private
sector,
housing
again
we're
being
able
to
re-mobilize
there.
I
We've
now
got
staff
that
are
going
out
and
crossing
the
thresholds
in
those
areas,
identifying
issues
and
raising
those
either
with
other
agencies
or
landlords.
In
terms
of
improving
the
properties
of
picking
up
on
potential
asb,
and
we
we're
strengthening
the
links
with
plays
and
laws
back,
for
example,
to
make
sure
that
we
work
through
that
much
more
efficiently
in
the
future.
I
I
think
just
finally,
council
is
just
that
housing
strategy
review
and
that's
due
for
renewal
work
is
taking
place
around
this
with
a
view
to
have
a
final
update
strategy
by
march
next
year.
Consultation
is
is
continuing.
A
paper
is
going
to
be
brought
to
the
next
scrutiny
panel
in
november
monday,
so
we'll
be
delivering
that-
and
I
don't
know
we're
looking
at
setting
up
some
workshops
very
early
in
the
new
year
and
they're,
covering
the
main
themes
around
climate,
older
people
and
homelessness.
I
A
A
B
Thank
you
chair.
It
was
just
around
the
delays,
because
I've
had
a
few
residents
complaining
that
they're
not
being
updated
on
delays,
and
I
wondered
if
there
was
a
process
in
place
that,
if
I
mean
obviously
a
lot
of
the
delays
are
beyond
your
control,
but
is
that
being
fed
back
to
residents
because
from
from
some
of
the
complaints
I've
had
it?
J
We
are
also
very
much
attempting
to
contact
customers
on
an
individual
basis
where
repairs
are
outstanding.
I
think
that's
that's
the
area
that
we
are
experiencing
the
most
challenged
with
we're
extremely
mindful
of
the
fact
that
the
communications
is
is
a
vital
element
to
keeping
customers
kind
of
on
board,
with
with
our
strategy
and
understanding
the
challenges
that
we're
facing.
J
We
have
kind
of
consistently
try
to
ask
customers
to
be
patient
with
us,
and
we
will
get
to
you,
but
kind
of
our
part
of
the
deal
is
is
making
sure
that
customers
are
kept
informed.
So
the
numbers
are
proven
a
challenge
as
far
as
that
is
concerned,
and
obviously
we're
not
able
to
contact
customers
by
telephone
in
all
circumstances.
J
A
F
B
F
B
You
yeah
and
the
particular
residents
that
have
been
in
contact
are
older
residents
and
I
think,
obviously,
for
them
a
phone
call
or
a
letter
probably
would
be
the
best
form
of
communication
and
and
obviously
they
worry,
because
they're
they're
expecting
things
in
a
certain
time,
so
it
would.
I
think
it
would
help
relieve
a
lot
of
the
stress
that
they
have.
You
know
worrying
about
when
this
works
going
to
be
completed.
K
Thank
you,
chair
first
off.
Thank
you
very
much
for
all
you're
doing
guys.
I
know
it's
difficult
times
out
there
for
you.
I've
got
a
couple
of
points,
so
the
first
one
I
understand,
there's
been
an
upgrade
to
your
systems
and
a
lot
of
the
old
repairs
have
dropped
off
and
again
it
comes
down
to
a
communication
piece
where
the
resident
doesn't
know
that
their
repair
has
dropped
off,
so
they
don't
know
to
re-report
it
and
that's
leading
to
frustrations.
K
So
if
we
could
possibly
look
into
that
and
maybe
think
about
how
that's
going
to
work,
that
would
be
great.
The
other
thing
is,
I
know
that
I've
been
dealing
with
you
separately
on
a
couple
of
a
couple
of
particular
cases,
and
that's
really
coming
down
to
issues
with
me
as
I
believe
now.
I
know
that
we've
got
a
new
contract
with
them.
I
know
that
the
t's
and
c's
there
are
are
more
stringent
and
that
we're
hopeful
that
that
will
pull
things
back
into
a
more
manageable
line.
K
However,
that's
causing
a
lot
of
pain,
and
so
I
you
know,
I
really
do
think
that
they
they
need
to
make
sure
that
they
they
turn
up.
They
do
what
they
say,
they're
going
to
do,
and
you
know
in
as
many
cases
as
at
all
possible.
They
get
it
right
first
time.
So.
I've
had
several
conversations
with
my
residents
in
particular,
where
they've
turned
up,
had
a
look
and
gone
away.
I've
got
the
right
job.
K
J
Thank
you,
councillor,
yeah,
on
the
first
point
around
the
new
systems.
Just
I
guess
for
some
reassurance
all
the
outstanding
repairs
that
were
on
the
old
system
were
migrated
across.
So
absolutely
nothing
has
been
lost
as
far
as
they
all
into
the
new
again.
There
may
be
some
exceptions
to
that,
but
I
would
I
would
very
much
hope
that
they
are
by
exception.
J
All
the
data
was
migrated
across
at
a
point
in
time,
so
so
nothing
was
lost
at
that
point
in
time
we
did
have
a
a
two-week
crossover
period,
but
everything
was
recorded
outside
of
the
system
during
that
period
and
should
now
have
been
entered
into
the
system.
So
certainly
in
the
vast
vast
majority
of
cases,
I
can
confidently
say
that
that
data
was
migrated
across.
J
Obviously
we
have
spoken
on
a
number
of
individual
cases
around
me
is
it
I
will
kind
of
talk
more
generally.
Obviously,
the
new
contract
with
me
is
went
live
on
the
1st
of
october
of
this
year
and
we
are
in
that
mobilization
phase
with
the
with
the
new
contract,
as
I'm
kind
of
using
every
opportunity
to
to
say,
that's,
not
a
continuation
of
the
arrangements
that
have
been
certainly
in
the
west
of
the
city
and
obviously
previously
in
the
south
as
well.
J
J
It
needs
to
be
about
an
outcome
for
a
customer,
not
not
making
a
spreadsheet
look
good,
but
an
outcome
for
the
customer
and
that
focus
on
outcomes
is,
is
absolutely
critical
to
us
and
a
massive
focus
for
us,
not
obviously
just
in
in
with
the
mayor's
contract,
but
across
the
city
when
it
comes
to
things
like
repairs,
but
also
about
customer
contacts,
as
well
with
the
introduction
of
our
intervention
team.
So
so
I
wholeheartedly
agree
around
the
first
time
and
I
am
extremely
confident
that
we
are
going
to
see
those
improvements.
J
G
And
then
it's
the
feedback
from
from
the
contractor
is
more
important
and-
and
it's
frustrating
for
yourself
for
us
as
elected
members,
and
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
better.
So
understanding
with
the
contractors
like
me
is,
which
are
also
our
residents
are
complaining
about
the
contractors
more
than
more
than
anything
anything
else.
As
I
said,
mr
communication
is
the
issue
and
and
and
professionalism
as
well,
so
something
I
think
we
need
to
watch
out
for
especially
if
it's
a
new
contract.
J
Yeah,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
council
yeah,
just
to
respond
to
you
to
your
points.
There,
certainly
around
our
preparedness
and
understanding
that
there
was
going
to
be
a
backlog.
Clearly
it
was
always
something
that
was
going
to
happen.
We
did
see
over
the
course
of
the
the
last
financial
year,
2021
a
reduction,
an
overall
reduction
of
around
15
in
the
number
of
responsive
repairs
that
were
recorded,
we're
often
talking
around
numbers
around
200
000,
responsive
repairs
on
an
annual
basis.
J
We
saw
about
a
15
reduction
in
that
last
year
and
it
was
clear
to
us
at
that
point
and
that's
not
because
the
demand
was
going
away.
That
was
a
direct
link
to
people's
potential,
nervousness
around
reporting
repairs,
for
example,
and
we
have
seen
that
that
come
back
now
in
terms
of
the
kind
of
normal
runway
run
rate
we're
about
eight
percent
up
now.
So
we
have.
We
are
seeing
that
that
that
demand
return.
So
we
did
anticipate
that
these
backlogs
would
be
generated.
J
I
think,
anticipating
it
and
being
able
to
to
acquire
that
additional
capacity,
it
has
been
extremely
challenging.
Obviously,
across
the
country
we've
seen
returns
in
the
construction
sector
in
the
house
building
sectors
and,
of
course,
all
our
peer
groups
in
local
authorities,
when
it
comes
to
responsive
repairs,
are
very
much
in
in
a
similar
position.
Unfortunately,
the
capacity
that
exists
in
the
marketplaces
is
finite
and
our
ability
to
attract
that
additional
capacity
has
been
very,
very
challenging.
J
We
do
obviously
have
our
principal
contractors
or
principal
service
providers,
mayors
in
the
in
the
west
of
the
city
and
and
late
building
services
in
the
east
and
the
south.
Our
subcontractor
network,
that
supports
that
is
always
been
designed
about
being
able
to
flex
to
to
accommodate
that
that
additional
capacity,
the
existing
arrangements
of
flex
beyond
beyond
breaking
point
really.
So
it's
that
ability
to
to
attract
more,
that's
been
particularly
demanding,
and
we
continue
to
attempt
that
on
an
ongoing
basis.
But
it
has
been
extremely
challenging
for
us.
J
The
point
that
you
raise
around
communication
again
as
as
responded
to
councillor
smith,
absolutely
recognize
that
that's
that's
one
of
the
critical
elements
in
terms
of
managing
the
expectations
of
our
customers,
and
indeed,
and
indeed
members
damp
issues
in
particular-
is
something
that
we
are
continually
aware
of.
Damp
is
often
a
symptom
rather
than
the
cause
of
the
repair
and
again,
I
think,
with
the
new
arrangements
that
we've
put
in
across
the
city,
both
both
with
mirrors
and
with
lbs.
J
So
we
have
developed
what
we're
calling
a
minor
works
team
now
as
well,
which
is
more
about
not
necessarily
worrying
about
getting
this
repair
fixed
immediately
or
within
three
hours,
but
making
sure
that
we're
spending
the
time
diagnosing
correctly
and
resolving
the
more
complex
repairs,
because
we
are
seeing
more
complex
repairs
becoming
kind
of
our
core
activity.
So
we
are
responding
to
that.
We
are
developing
strategies
around
that
and
we
have
put
actions
in
place
to
to
to
respond
to
that
as
well.
G
G
Just
on
a
final
note,
how
long
will
it
take
roughly
before
the
9
000
backlog
of
jobs
which
are
waiting
to
be
to
be
addressed
because
those
9
000
could
have
been?
Someone
could
be
a
vulnerable
person
in
in
in
our
in
our
community,
so
I
think
it's
important
to
know.
When
will
you
be
able
to
convince
the
contractors-
and
I
absolutely
understand
about
the
supply
chain?
J
Absolutely
counsellor-
and
I
would
just
like
to
emphasize
that
the
backup
of
repairs
is,
is
what
we
are
kind
of
deeming
non-essential
repairs
now
we're
we're
quite
deliberately
quite
loose
with
what
our
definition
of
essential
means.
So
it's
not
emergencies.
Only
it's
not
emergencies
priorities.
Only.
J
We
are
projecting
that
it
will
take
us
to
the
first
week
in
april
for
us
to
clear
that
backlog,
but
I
would
just
like
to
caveat
that
with
obviously
as
we're
heading
to
the
winter
period,
we're
not
sure,
what's
going
to
happen
with
with
kobe
rates
in
the
city,
for
example,
or
indeed
nationally,
and
that
could
have
an
impact
on
potentially
if
restrictions
are
reintroduced.
So
our
current
projections
are
the
first
of
april,
but
there
are
some
some
variables
that
we
do
need
to
consider
around
that.
Okay,
thank.
F
Thank
you,
my
question's
on
damp
as
well.
You've
provided
some
assurance
there
about
how
you
do
going
to
deal
with
it
with
the
minor
work
scene,
but
I
just
wondered:
if
you
had
any
idea
of
proportion
of
properties
we
have
with
chronic
dam
issues
and
if
there's
any
property
types
that
are
related
to
it
and
then
added
to
that,
it
does
make
us
vulnerable
to
these
disrepair
claims.
So
do
we
keep
an
eye
on
on
those
as
well
and
make
sure
we're
being
proactive
on
down
because
a
lot
of
constituents
feedback?
F
J
Yeah
thanks
guys
thanks
councillor
richie
yeah
around,
I
guess
around
the
trend.
Analysis
is
something
to
do
an
awful
lot
of
work
on.
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
when
we're
looking
at
areas
where
damp
is
is
a
particular
issue,
it
tends
to
be
on
our
traditional
brick
properties
and
pre-1919
properties,
so
things
like
the
back
to
backs
in
the
city,
but
particularly
around
the
the
traditional
brick
properties.
J
I
guess
the
difficulty
is
that
the
traditional
brick
properties
account
for
around
about
sixty
percent
of
the
total
of
the
stock
in
the
city.
So,
although
we
are
there
and
I'm
sure,
nahim
will
be
able
to
update
better,
we
do
have
a
number
of
strategies
in
place
investment
strategies
in
place,
particularly
on
the
back-to-backs,
the
tip
investment
schemes,
for
example.
J
J
So
we
we
do
have
that
trend
analysis
in
place
and
and
the
work
that
between
my
team
and
naheem's
team,
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
identifying
that
trend
and
then
developing
investment
strategies
to
link
the
two
together
is,
is
absolutely
critical
for
us
and,
of
course,
that
links
into
the
the
disrepair
claims
that
we
do
see
as
well
and
making
sure
that
we
are
linking
the
dots
between
the
the
causes.
The
causation
of
disrepair
claims
what
that
means
in
terms
of
behavior.
J
For
for
ourselves,
I
don't
mean
necessarily
of
the
tenants,
the
behaviors
of
ourselves
and
and
where
we
need
to
improve
to
to
avoid
those
claims
moving
forward,
but
equally
how
we
can
transition
from
that
being
a
reactive
thing
for
us
into
proactive
investment
strategies
and
preventative
strategies,
rather
than
reacting
when
they
do
come
in.
I
would
like
to
just
pick
up
on
the
point
that
you
made
around
kind
of
advice
about
it
being
behavioral
the
creation
of
damping
in
properties.
J
There
is
a
small
proportion
where
that
is
the
case,
but
I
think
we
do
recognize
that
that
is
a
very
small
proportion.
In
the
vast
majority
of
cases
we
are
looking
at,
potentially
structural
defects,
be
rain,
water
goods
or
drainage
issues,
for
example.
So,
although
that
does
exist,
it
is,
it
is
a
very
small
proportion
and
I
think
it
is
more
more
to
do
with
the
structure
of
the
of
the
properties.
In
most
cases,.
D
D
I
know
there's
cases
where
they
supposed
to
turn
up
and
then
suddenly
say
no.
We
can't
and
put
it
forward
another
two
weeks
and
I
just
get
the
feeling
that
they
just
don't
really
always
say,
don't
care,
but
they
don't
seem
to
bother
about
the
fact
that
the
messing
people
about
when
they
do
that.
So
people
then
are
saying
well
will
they
turn
up
in
two
weeks
or
whatever
to
do?
D
They
said
you
can't
rely
on
them
actually
coming
and
carrying
out
a
job
they
had
to
come
and
then
can't
carry
out
the
job
or
to
say
no
we're
coming
in
two
weeks
time.
They
don't
seem
to
be
able
to
go
like
if
you-
and
I
you
know,
obviously
pay
for
somebody
to
come
to
do
a
repair
the
comeback
day
and
to
do
it
with
me
as
more
often
than
not.
That's
not
the
case.
D
eight
days,
it's
making
77.8
days
to
let
a
property.
I
I
just
think
that's
far
too
long.
Far
too
long
I
mean
you
know:
you've
got
loads
of
people
putting
in
for
every
property,
because,
let's
be
honest,
not
that
many
come
up
anyway.
People
hold
on
to
them,
even
if
they're
overcrowded
to
hold
on
to
them,
because
getting
the
council
house
these
days
is
like
getting
gold
really
isn't
it
landing
gold,
so
I
think
that
definitely
wants
to
be
looked
at.
It
shouldn't
be
that
long
and
I'll
leave
it
there.
Thank
you.
J
Thanks
councillor,
I
guess
on
the
first
point
again
just
just
a
recognition
that
things
do
need
to
improve.
We
absolutely
recognize
that
and
that's
that's
why
we
redesigned
the
the
the
contract
and
the
the
specifications
and
all
that
I'll,
not
repeat
myself
again.
What
I
would
say
is
if
things
don't
improve
and-
and
we
need
to
give
it
sufficient
time
and
particularly
under
the
the
circumstances
to
to
improve
to
a
level
that
we
need
it
to.
J
Frankly,
that's
not
a
mere's
feeling,
that's
that's
a
feeling
of
my
service,
so
that's
one
that
I
very
much
need
to
be
need
to
be
managing
and
need
to
be
on
top
of,
and-
and
I
I
assure
you
we
are
in
relation
to
the
lettings
times-
I
would
just
emphasize
that
the
vast
majority
of
that
that
time
period
is
is
the
works
element.
It's
not
the
kind
of
the
the
specific
lettings
period
around
housing
management.
J
Colleagues,
finding
an
appropriate
tenant,
for
example,
and
moving
them
in
the
vast
majority
of
that
time
is
around
the
works
and
again
those
delays,
particularly
around
a
lot
of
the
coveted,
safe
practices
that
we've
got
in
place.
Traditionally,
we'd
have
potentially,
between
four
and
six
trades
operating
in
parallel
within
a
property.
J
Kitchens
are
a
particular
issue
for
us
at
the
moment,
and
while
we
are
looking
at
our
specifications
and
looking
for
opportunities
to
fit
alternative
products
to
those
that
we
normally
would,
we
are
finding
the
majority
of
cases
with
kitchens,
for
example
the
material
shortages
around
chipboard.
It's
not
about
symphony
kitchens,
for
example,
it's
about
the
chipboard,
the
raw
materials
that
are
used.
J
So
while
we
are
looking
for
alternatives
to
accelerate
those
programs
again,
there
are
challenges
associated
with
with
with
a
number
of
areas
around
there,
but
yeah
just
to
emphasize
the
lettings
element
is
is,
is,
I
think,
I'm
right
in
saying
jesus
has
recovered
to
to
pre-covered
levels
for
the
time
scales.
It
is
the
works
element
that
that's
massively
contributing
to
those
extended
time
scales:
okay,.
I
I
It
is
very
much
about
getting
the
properties
in
a
fixed
state
to
allow
our
new
customers
to
move
in,
but
we're
still
advertising
the
properties
now
we're
still
speaking
to
our
customers
and
advising
them
that
they're
being
allocated
that
property
and
we
are
trying
to
keep
them
involved
so
that
they
know
when
they're
gonna
be
able
to
move
into
that
property
as
well.
So
in
terms
of
that
the
housing
management
side
around
the
allocation
of
the
property.
With
back
to
speed
on
that,
it's
just
recovering.
A
F
F
I
I
Sometimes
we
need
to
go
through
the
courts
to
get
possession
of
that
property
and
end
that
tenancy
before
we
can
put
it
to
the
void
process,
and
we
do
that
as
quickly
as
we
can
obviously
we'll
rely
on
and
getting
into
court
and
doing
that.
But
there
is
other
methods
that
teams
can
use
as
well.
We
can
we
can
serve
notice
and,
if
we're
absolutely
confident
as
a
service
that
that
customer
is
abandoned
and
there's
no
intention
to
return,
we
can
very
quickly
then
turn
that
property
around
and
get
it
into
the
right
team.
A
D
When
you
say
about
customers,
obviously
being
able
to
contact
the
housing
office
many
times
delay
with
that
my
local
housing
office,
what
they've
been
doing
is
the
housing
officers
have
been
giving
their
phone
numbers,
so
they
can
contact
housing
office
direct
which
tends
to
work,
but
we
do
have
a
problem
now,
where
there's
some
vacancies,
which
are
being
told,
are
going
to
be
sorted
out,
so
the
residents
don't
necessarily
have
the
right
contact
number.
If
the
person's
work,
you
know
if
the
person
is
off
work,
etc.
So
it
it's
not
necessarily
work.
D
D
E
I
E
Thank
you,
enforcement
on
these
landlords
that
don't
have
their
license.
How
robust
are
we
going
to
be
because
other
areas,
other
departments
where
there's
enforcement,
don't
seem
to
have
the
capacity
to
be
robust?
So
can
you
just
talk
me
through
how
long
you
think
these?
Where
have
you
got
you've
found
evidence
against
147
and
109
have
had
a
civil
penalty?
What
sort
of
time
scales
are
we
looking
at
before
this
escalates.
I
I'd
have
to
check
with
the
team
counsellor
in
terms
of
time
skills,
if
I'm
honest,
but
I
know
the
team
work
extremely
quickly
and
where
they
need
to
go
through
the
court
process.
They're
doing
that,
I
would.
I
would
estimate
you're,
probably
looking
at
a
matter
of
months,
but
the
most
to
do
with
those
that
we've
already
identified,
or
I
would
have
to
come
back
with
a
more
accurate
time.
Skill,
okay,.
E
G
E
I'm
I
will
work
on
the
assumption
that
people
have
had
a
chance
to
look
at
the
reports,
I'll
just
pull
out
a
few
key
areas
and
then
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions.
Yeah.
I
think
it's
important
to
point
out
that
the
annual
investment
program,
which
sounds
like
a
huge
amount
of
money
at
80
million,
has
to
serve
many
purposes
alongside
the
carbonization
of
the
housing
estate,
and
that
includes
ensuring
that
we
invest
in
fire
safety
in
health
and
safety
in
ensuring
that
we
undertake
life
cycle
replacement
activity
as
well.
E
We're
often,
I
think
in
just
in
the
section
above
the
above
table,
a
I've
outlined
the
drivers
that
underpin
our
investment
program.
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we're
transparent
and
we
can
explain
both
to
yourselves
and
also
to
tenants
how
we
arrive
at
our
investment
decisions
and
they
are
driven
by
a
number
of
of
key
considerations.
E
First
of
all,
we
we
have
a
worst
first
approach,
so
we
will
invest
in
the
stock
that
needs
it.
The
most
when
need
is
the
greatest,
and
one
of
those
considerations
is
around
the
current
energy
performance
rating
of
those
buildings.
So
energy
performance
rating
can
be
anything
from
a
to
g,
and
so
we
will
focus
our
investment
on
the
lowest
performing
properties.
We
also
consider
where
we
can
hand
in
hand
undertake
health
and
safety
work
at
the
same
time
as
improving
the
thermal
efficiency
of
a
building.
E
We
will
also
consider
what
the
criteria
is
that
it
has
been
set
by
funders
in
terms
of
bringing
inward
investment
into
the
local
authority.
So,
quite
often,
our
investment
decisions
are
driven
by
the
the
criteria
and
we'll
also
consider
whether
the
properties
are
in
privacy,
neighborhoods,
and
so,
where
do
tenants
need
the
investment?
The
most
the
table
at
1.1
sets
out
some
of
the
projects
that
we
have
underway,
including
the
status
of
those
projects.
E
E
There's
some
more
information
about
the
funding,
that's
coming
in
to
support
housing,
decarbonisation
projects,
and
we
work
very
closely
with
police
team
to
bring
that
investment
into
into
the
local
authority
and
to
benefit
our
tenants
and
there's
reference
in
1.322,
a
bid
that
went
in
last
week,
which
was
for
wave
one
of
the
social
housing
decarbonisation
fund
and
we
have
put
a
bid
in
for
9.5
million
and
that's
in
addition
to
the
funding.
That's
already
coming,
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions
at
this
stage.
I
think,
rather
than
talking
to
anybody.
B
B
So
I
was
just
wondering
if
you,
if
you've,
got
any
information
and
sort
of
data
about
what
the
running
costs
are
in
comparison
to
other
well
like
the
more
traditional
heating
systems
and
then
the
the
well
any
any
of
the
other
any
of
the
other
things.
What
we've
got.
We've
got
the
district
heating
and
ground
source,
and
things
like
that
haven't
we.
So
I
was
just
wondering
if
you've
got
if
you've
got
a
breakdown
in
running
costs
per
per
household.
Please.
A
A
E
Thank
you
for
the
question.
I
have
a
team
that
have
a
lot
more
detail
on
the
actual
technical
side
of
the
technology
that
we
install
and
also
on
the
impact
in
terms
of
running
costs.
I've
got
some
high
level
figures.
I
don't
know
if
it
will
necessarily
answer
your
question,
but
if
there's
anything
further
that
you
want
to,
we
can
then
make
sure
we
get
that
through
to
you
in
terms
of
the
cost
per
unit
in
a
high-rise
building
to
install
ground
source
heat
pump
technology.
E
It
costs
somewhere
between
17
and
20
000,
and
the
running
costs
are
the
lowest
for
tenants
in
terms
of
air
source
heat
pumps
in
a
high
rise
building.
The
installation
cost
is
higher
between
21
and
25
k
and
the
running
costs
are
the
highest
for
tenants,
and
so
there
is
a
within
a
high-rise
building.
It
makes
makes
more
sense
to
install
ground
source
heat
pump
technology
in
in
a
non-high-rise
building.
The
air
source
heat
pumps
can
be
comparable
to
ground
source
heat
pumps
in
terms
of
the
running
costs.
E
So
we
will
look
at
the
asset
type
before
we
decide
what
type
of
technology
to
cook
to
put
in,
and
we
will
consider
what
the
impact
is
on
tenants.
We
haven't
installed
many
air
source
heat
pumps.
At
the
moment
we
did
a
pilot
with
only
14
properties
and
we
are
about
to
start
a
larger
scheme
with
160
properties
being
affected
by
air
source
heat
pumps.
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I'm
family
meet
you
in
person
today.
I
I
totally
agree
100
with
worst
first,
but
there's
there's
nothing
in
my
ward
here
and
I'm
just
curious
as
to
whether
there's
some
way
you
can
send
counsellors
reports
on
what
the
assessment
of
their
ward
properties
shows.
So
you
know
if
you
have
looked
at
lots
of
different
properties
that
aren't
on
the
list,
it'd
be
useful
to
know
where
they
actually
stand
with
regards
to
refurbishment
and
carbon
usage,
and
things
like
that.
E
Yes,
there's
quite
a
lot
of
detailed
work
that
goes
on
in
the
background
and
in
terms
of
the
the
team
that
manage
the
data
that
comes
in.
There
are
many
different
types
of
data
that
we
look
at,
including
stock
conditions
data
both
collected
internally
by
my
team
and
also
commissioned
and
brought
in
externally
from
specialists
depending
on
you
know,
on
the
asset.
Sometimes
we
need
to
bring
in
specialists.
E
E
A
E
E
So
one
of
the
considerations
is
around
whether
what
the
repairs
data
tells
us
but
stock
conditions
data
is
collected
proactively.
So
it's
not
reactive.
We
don't
go
out
to
just
where
there's
a
problem,
so
we're
gathering
data
about
the
condition
of
our
assets
all
the
time,
including
what
the
epc
rating
is.
E
D
Yes,
thank
you
chair,
I'd,
just
like
to
say
that
when
you're
talking
about
the
work
done
on
the
high-rise
buildings,
the
the
first
blocks
to
to
be
done
as
far
as
the
ground
source
heat
pumps,
it's
down
on
page
three
on
the
report.
Here
were
heights,
east
and
west,
and
it
has
saved
the
tenants
money
there
and
I'm
pleased
that
they
have
done
those
because
they
they
are
two
of
the
older
type
of
blocks
and
and
the
tenants
are
really
pleased
with
the
work
that's
been
done.
D
K
Thanks
chair
mine's,
actually
a
word
of
thanks
as
well.
I
know
that
we've
been
speaking
separately
and
managed
to
pull
investment
forward
hugely
into
my
ward
for
for
the
rycroft
estate
and
that's
been
very
welcomed,
and
the
residents
are
very
very
impressed
with,
with
with
everything
so
far
slight
lack
of
communication
with
them.
But
you
know
we
can
get
over
that
and
the
fact
that
you've
managed
to
pull
the
investment
so
far
forward
for
us
has
been
appreciated.
So
thank
you
very
much.
E
I
probably
should,
but
I
would
just
like
I
would
just
I
would
just
like
to
add
that
the
blocks
were
already
in
the
program.
What
we
managed
to
do
was
accelerate
delivery
on
the
ground,
and
that
means
that
staff
are
working
faster,
and
so
they
were
already
in
the
program
they'd
been
identified.
We
just
managed
to
bring
them
forward
on
the
timeline.
A
Anybody
get
any
other
questions
on
this
particular
paper.
In
that
case.
Thank
you
all
for
your
attendance
introspect
of
these
particular
papers.
So
it
must
be.
You
can
stay
and
listen
to
the
rest
of
the
debate
if
you
wish.
But
if
you
wish
to
go
back
to
do
your
day,
jobs,
we
won't
be
offended
in
any
shape
or
form.
If
you
walk
away
from
us
happens
to
me
all
the
time.
A
I
apologize
councillor
defeat
because,
when
the
the
first,
when
we
in
order
to
when
the
meeting
started,
unfortunately,
the
deputy
mayor
wasn't
present,
so
I
had
to
bring
forward
another
agenda
item
in
order
to
keep
the
meeting
going
along.
So
I
do
apologize,
but
it
was
where
the
the
quality
of
the
reports
we
had
before
us
meant
that
there
were
yes,
there
were
questions,
but
they
were
because
they
were
of
such
high
quality.
It
meant
the
members
did
have
the
information
they
needed
in
order
to
move
forward.
A
Okay,
so
so,
if
we
go
back
now
to
item
seven
and
I
keep
referring
to
his
counselor
law,
because
that
was
the
only
way
I
knew
allison
in
the
past,
but
welcome
to
allison
lowe
in
her
role
as
deputy
mayor
for
crime
and
policing
and
I'll
ask
you
to
do
yourself
in
a
minute
and
also
mr
money.
So
if
mr
money
could
introduce
himself
first,
I
will
then
hand
over
to
alison.
A
C
Yeah,
my
name
is
alison
lowe,
as
many
of
you
know,
and
I'm
the
deputy
mayor
for
policing
and
crime,
can
I
apologize
for
being
late.
I
was
in
a
meeting
from
8
30
to
10
o'clock
and
I
was
told
to
get
here
for
11
by
the
office,
so
I
shall
have
words
so
there's
obviously
been
a
misunderstanding,
but
I
do
apologize
that
you
were
made
to
wait
for
me.
So
I
understand
that
we're
here
to
talk
about
the
police
and
crime
plan,
which
is
brilliant,
because
we
need
as
much
engagement
as
possible.
C
We
won
both
councillors
and
the
people
that
you
represent
to
take
part
in
the
consultation
process
which
has
been
extended
to
the
29th
of
october,
and
we
also
want
to
understand
what
the
priorities
are
hearing
leeds,
because
without
understanding
that
we
can
deliver
a
plan
that
addresses
those
priorities.
So
please
do
as
a
body
feedback
and
as
individuals
feedback.
C
C
I've
been
wanting
to
estimate
later
on,
but
I'll
focus
on
the
police
and
crime
plan
and
the
process
that
we're
undertaking
to
get
it
right
for
west
yorkshire
and
for
the
people
of
west
yorkshire
and
a
note
that
in
your
papers,
you've
got
a
copy
of
the
individual
consultation.
That's
been
sent
out
and
is
on
lots
of
websites,
but
also
the
partner
consultation,
because
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
our
key
partners
and
obviously
the
scrutiny
board
because
of
your
role
representing
lead
city
council.
C
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
all
partners
could
contribute
from
their
partnership
perspective
as
well
as
their
individual
perspective,
but
I'll
just
go
through
the
key
bits
of
the
plan.
So
currently
our
vision
is
keeping
west
georgia
safe
and
feeling
safe.
But
we've
just
had
a
a
session
with
the
partnership
executive
group
and
we're
looking
to
change
that,
because
that's
mark's
old
vision
statement
and
obviously
our
mayor
wants
to
have
her
vision
statement.
So
we're
not
quite
there.
Yet.
C
And
so
we
have
four
priorities
contained
within
the
consultation
document
and
they
are
supporting
victims
and
witnesses,
keeping
people
safe
and
building
resilience,
safer
places
and
thriving
communities
and
then
finally
responding
to
multiple
and
complex
needs,
and
each
of
these
priorities
have
both
a
description
of
what
that
means.
But
then
areas
of
focus
sitting
underneath
so,
for
example,
supporting
victims
and
witnesses,
has
areas
of
focus,
helping
people
get
justice
with
positive
outcomes,
children
and
young
people,
services,
specialist
provision
tailored
for
individual
need
and
increasing
trust
and
confidence
within
the
criminal
justice
system.
C
So
that
they're
just
some
of
the
areas
of
the
focus
that
we've
included,
because
that's
about
how
we
not
just
support
victims
and
witnesses
but
give
them
justice.
Bearing
in
mind
that
we're
one
part
of
the
the
partnership
where
the
policing
part
and
obviously
the
partners,
the
the
crime
partners,
the
criminal
justice
system,
the
youth,
offending
teams,
the
cps,
all
those
other
partners-
have
got
a
role
to
play
too,
under
keeping
people
safe
and
building
resilience.
C
That
includes
areas
such
as
stalking
and
harassment,
rape
and
sexual
offences,
honour-based
abuse,
domestic
abuse,
human
trafficking
and
slavery,
child
sexual
abuse
and
exploitation,
fraud
and
cyber
crime,
and
the
consultation
is
asking
people
if
they're
the
right
areas
or,
if
there's
more
or
different
things
that
we
can
come
up
with
the
third
area.
Safer
places
and
thriving
communities
have
recovery
from
impact
of
coverage
as
one
of
the
areas
of
focus,
drugs,
misuse,
asb.
Clearly
in
neighborhood
crime,
road
safety,
apparently
world
safety
always
comes
top.
So
everyone
trusts
me
about
road
safety.
C
They've
got
something
to
tell
you
about
that
too.
It
includes
countering
terrorism,
serious
and
organized
crime,
serious
violence
amongst
others,
and
then
the
final
priority,
responding
to
multiple
and
complex
needs
has
at
its
heart
and
understanding
that
the
vast
majority
of
offenders
in
our
communities
are
themselves
victims
of
crime.
Of
trafficking
of
exploitation
in
the
main
you'll
see
that
aces
have
been
something
that
affected
many
of
the
people
involved
in
criminality.
C
I
mean
we
know
that
there
are
some
evil
people,
but
in
the
name
many
of
the
people
that
are
offending
in
our
communities
have
been
victimized
at
some
point
in
their
lives,
and
so
that's
trying
to
address
that
and
look
at
things
like
mental
health.
For
example.
Look
at
drug
and
alcohol
misuse
look
at
csea
and
also
understand
the
impact
of
positive
solutions
like
restorative
justice,
as
well
as
the
priorities.
C
We've
got
three
cross-cutting
things
which
I
know
is
in
the
report,
women
and
girls,
which
is
obviously
something
that
the
mayor
campaigned
on
as
part
of
her
election
equality,
diversity
and
inclusion.
West
georgia
is
incredibly
diverse
and
leeds
is
incredibly
diverse
and
we
don't
want
to
lose
the
assets
that
that
diversity
brings
to
the
communities
that
we
serve
and
to
the
opportunities
for
creating
solutions
for
those
communities.
C
So
I'm
really
happy
to
answer
any
questions
about
the
areas
of
focus
in
the
plan.
The
timetable
is
that
the
consultation
process
is
up
until
the
29th
of
october.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
as
many
people
and
interested
groups
as
possible
were
able
to
feedback,
we've
had
thousands
of
people
completing
the
farm
in
different
forms.
So
that's
brilliant.
The
consultation
document
is
is
printed
in
five
main
languages,
but
you
can
ask
for
it
in
any
language.
We've
also
got
an
easy,
read
version.
C
C
In
december
and
we
will
take
their
views
at
that
meeting,
we
have
already
had
a
separate
meeting
with
the
police
and
crime
panel
first
time
ever,
that's
being
done
as
I
understand,
and
hopefully
they
will
sign
it
off
in
the
main
in
december,
and
then
it
will
be
agreed
before
the
first
of
april.
So
that
will
be
the
plan
that
the
the
mayor
has
written.
C
C
C
They
one
of
the
jobs
of
the
pcc
is
then
to
write
the
plan
that
will
help
to
deliver
that
statutory
requirement.
So
I
think
in
the
beginning,
the
introduction
to
the
plan.
There
might
be
some
statement
that
that
refers
to
obviously
better
outcomes
for
people,
so
it
needs
to
be
clear:
it's
a
bit
too
late
now
because
it
has
gone
out
and
it
has
been
out
since
the
first
september
so
helpfully.
C
If
you
went
back
to
your
your
constituent
and
telling
that
obviously
catching
the
criminals
is
the
number
one
priority
of
west
georgia
police.
But
this
is
about
understanding
the
priorities.
The
local
priorities
of
the
communities
of
west
georgia
and
obviously
catching
the
criminals
is,
is
number
one,
because
if
we
don't
catch
the
criminals,
then
none
of
this
gets
delivered.
E
G
Thank
you
chair
and
congratulations
to
alison
publicly
for
being
appointed
as
a
deputy
mayor.
Just
I
mean
how
what
process
have
you
used
to
circulate
this
plan
to
heart,
reach,
communities
and
being
a
counselor
in
this
city,
and
you
know
how
difficult
it
was
to
get
through
to
some
of
the
communities
that
we
all
represent?
What
work
has
your
department
has
done
to
make
sure
how
how
we
really
go
into
those
communities
will
never
ever
take
part
in
consultation.
G
C
For
example,
they
were
one
of
the
groups
I
wanted
to
ensure
were
included
other
bme
and
lgbt
groups.
I've
had
personal
contact
with
women's
aid
together
women,
so
lots
of
all
the
rape
crisis
organizations
across
west
yorkshire.
We
also
had
a
a
round
table
event
in
september,
which
was
all
about
women
and
girls
safety
and
over
140
individuals
representing
organizations
attended.
C
We
consulted
with
them
at
that
juncture
and
then
sent
them
all
at
the
planning.
The
format
that
they
requested
as
part
of
that
meeting
we've
also
got
individual
days
where
we're
coming
to
where
I'm
coming
to
all
parts
of
west
arches.
I
think
I'm
in
leads
on
the
11th
of
november,
because
the
the
group
consultation
ends
in
the
middle
of
november,
so
the
groups
and
organizations
can
still
feed
back
until
the
middle
of
november,
so
I'm
coming
to
leads.
Then
I've
already
been
to
bradford.
C
C
Wakefield,
I've,
er
I've
got
a
day
in
colderdale
and
kirkley's
book
team,
so
we're
going
to
we're
doing
face-to-face
meetings,
we're
meeting
lots
of
groups
we're
talking
to
the
yachts,
we're
talking
to
youth
services,
we're
talking
to
a
very
wide
range
of
individuals
and
groups
that
we've
been
involved
with
for
years
and
years,
and
I'm
talking
to
you
because
obviously
you've
got
lots
of
connections
in
your
constituencies,
and
I've
also
asked
the
police
and
crime
panels.
Similarly
to
ask
people
that
they
work
with
and
represent
to
also
engage
those
constituents.
C
So
it's
a
very
difficult
process
to
be
able
to
include
everybody
and
that's
why
that
partnership
approach
is
so
important.
So
all
the
partners
that
we've
been
working
with
for
years
and
years
and
years
they've
all
been
asked
to
get
that
information
out
to
the
people
that
they
know.
We've
offered
to
print
things
off.
We've
offered
to
post
things
out,
we've
offered
to
do
with
things
in
different
languages
and
different
formats,
as
long
as
just
they've
just
got
to
ask
us
for
what
they
want
and
then
we'll
send
those
those
things
out.
G
Chair
the
reason
I
asked
this
was
because
I
am
quite
pleased
that
the
the
mayor
and
the
deputy
mayor
has
put
the
women
and
girls
on
on
on
the
on
the
heart
on
on
the
central
point.
But
my
concern
is
that
the
the
the
bme
community,
and
especially
the
south
asian
community,
they
don't
normally
highlight
the
domestic.
G
Domestic
issues
in
into
public,
if
you
can
understand
so
it's
a
stigma.
The
reason
I
asked
this
question
was
what
exactly
we
have
done
to
make
sure
that
we
include
those
communities.
There
is
a
still
stigma
attached
to
young
girls
or
other
women
will
not
complain
because
of
the
shame
they
will
bring
to
the
families.
Now.
One
of
the
thing
I
would
have
said
that
I
would
have
been
quite
keen
to
hear
that.
G
Yes,
we
have
included
the
faith
groups
in
in
our
city,
the
imams
and
the
and
the
local
mosques,
because
we
have
one
of
the
biggest
gatherings
within
the
muslim
community
every
friday,
where
thousands
and
thousands
of
muslims
take
part
in
the
prayers.
Also,
the
one
of
the
other
thing
I
would
suggest
if
we
can
use
the
the
older
media,
for
example
the
local
asian
state
stations
we
go
one
in
in
leeds
and
one
in
bradford,
and
there
will
be.
G
I
would
be
quite
pleased
if
someone
would
have
listened
a
woman
or
girl
who
might
have
been
suffering
silence
and
she
would
have
tuned
into
that
radio
and
say
wow.
The
police
is
doing
give
her
the
confidence
to
make
sure
that
we
are.
We
are
addressing
those
if
you
can
understand
the
point
I'm
trying
to
make.
G
Is
this
not
only
talking
to
those
partners
we've
already
spoken
to,
but
giving
the
confidence
to
those
victims
who
were
suffering
at
the
moment
gave
him
some
sort
of
voice
and
and
and
the
support-
and
I
think
the
best
way
to
do
that
is
to
use
the
not
only
the
social
media
which
is
not
accessible
to
old,
all
all
the
communities,
but
you
know
speak
to
the
language.
They
understand
local
radio
stations,
television
channels
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
and
if
you
need
any
support,
listen,
you
know
where
we
are.
C
I've
been
on
it
for
tv
I've
been
on,
I
was
on
two
days
ago
on
it
was
a
national
muslim
channel
and
I
find
it
the
name
of
it.
I've
been
on
bradford
radio,
I've
been
on
lead.
Radio
we've
also
got
a
as
part
of
that
consultation
framework
that
they've
got
in
the
office
and
engagement
team,
that
they've
got
mosques,
temples,
churches,
so
a
range
of
different
denominations
that
are
also
included.
C
I
mean,
obviously,
it's
not
possible
for
everyone
to
be
included,
because
it's
about
people
agreeing
to
have
their
names
held,
because
we've
actually
lost
7
000
on
the
transfer
from
the
opcc
to
the
new
arrangements.
We've
lost
the
contacts
of
7
000
individuals
and
groups
because
they
haven't
consented
to
being
transferred
across
or
the
other
thing
I
should
have
said
is
that
because
we're
now
part
of
west
georgia
combined
authority,
we've
got
the
consultation
out
on
the
buses.
C
So
we've
used
all
the
consultation
mechanisms
that
west
georgia
combined
authority
have
developed
over
years
and
years,
so
that's
sent
out
online,
but
we've
put
things
out
on
buses,
so
we've
put
the
link
out
on
buses
and
and
on
trains.
So
the
things
that
wiker
have
got
responsibility
for
we've
extended
our
reach
using
all
that
mechanism
as
well.
A
B
You
jeff
hello,
allison,
lovely,
to
see
you
again,
hi
paul,
so
I
think
I've
spoken
to
you
both
before
about
my
strongly
held
views
about
women's
safety
and
as
a
health,
well-being,
board
chair
and
the
health
lead.
I
was
sort
of
interested
in
you
know
the
managed
approach
and
other
issues
affecting
women
from
a
health
point
of
view
and
making
women
safer
in
general.
I
think
I
just
I'm
stepping
down
in
may,
and
I
think
one
thing
I
just
like
to
reflect
on
is
over
the
last
11
years.
B
So
there's
that
just
any
views
on
that
would
be
very
welcome.
Why
has
it
got
worse-
and
you
know
at
the
moment,
with
the
issues
about
women
being
targeted
with
date,
rape,
drugs
in
with
needles
in
in
nightclubs?
It's
just
terrorizing.
It
feels
really
scary.
I
feel
scared
as
a
woman-
and
I
think,
if
I
was
a
young
woman,
I'd
feel
really
scared
and
you
know
what's
happening
in
leeds.
Is
that
happening
right
now
for
us?
Why
is
this
happening
and
what
can
we
do
about
it?
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
so
all
those
lap
dancing
clubs
that
took
you
to
court.
As
you
know,
I
came
to
licensing
and
spoke
against
every
single
one
stayed
for
hours
and
hours
and
hours
to
make
sure
that
my
voice
got
heard
and
we
succeeded
in
some
cases,
but
not
all.
Unfortunately,
so
I'm
with
you
there
in
relation
to
the
the
spiking
so
obviously
immediately
that
that
became
a
a
concern
that
was
raised
yesterday.
C
Police
spiking
is
not
a
crime
on
its
own,
but
paulo
confirmed
that
that's
so
it's
really
hard
to
do
it,
but
what
they've
done
is
done
a
search
of
all
the
database
where
needles
have
been
used,
there's
only
one
k
in
a
non-domestic
setting
and
there's
only
one
case.
That's
been
recorded
on
the
systems
in
leeds
in
the
last
three
years.
So
I
suspect
that
the
spiking
with
needles
is
not
a
leads
thing,
but
obviously
we
need
to
understand
where
the
women
from
leeds
university
from
all
the
universities.
Whoever
is
this
matter.
C
What
what
their
experience
is
so
we're
going
to
meet
them
to
understand
because
it
could
be
that
women
have
experienced
they
are
our
men
have
experienced
this
and
not
reported
it
to
police.
So
we
need
to
understand
the
genus
of
that
claim
in
terms
of
spiking
again,
it's
not
it's
not
captured
as
a
crime,
but
we're
we've
asked
the
police
to
have
a
look
through
their
systems
and
they're,
using
some
key
words
to
try
to
understand
how
prevalent
that
is.
C
So
we
haven't
got
that
data
yet
because
we
only
asked
him
yesterday
afternoon.
So
when
we
have
it,
we're
really
happy
to
share
it
with
this
body,
I
think
you're
right
that
the
it
feels
less
safe
for
women
and
girls
than
it
ever
has
and
it's,
let's
be
honest.
It's
never
felt
safe
for
women
and
girls.
As
somebody
who's
experienced,
you
know
a
child
of
sexual
abuse
and
domestic
abuse.
C
I
can
attest
to
the
fact
that
life
has
never
been
safe
for
women
and
girls,
and
I
think
that
it's
very
complex
why
that
is-
and
you
know,
I'm
not
a
researcher.
I've
not
got
that
academic
knowledge
around
what
the
source
of
that
is,
but
it
just
feels
as
though
more
predators
feel
safe
to
act
out
their
worst
behaviors
and
I
think
misogyny
is
at
the
heart
of
that.
I
think
those
misogynistic
behaviors,
we've
we've
given
permission.
C
We
in
society
have
given
permission
for
some
of
that
misogyny
to
thriving
to
prosper,
and
the
impact
of
that
is
that
obviously
there
are
more
serious
violence
and
sexual
assaults
against
women
and
girls,
but
probably
against
men
as
well.
We
haven't
got
the
data
for
men,
but
I
know
that
victims
are
definitely
increasing
across
all
harm
areas
and
west
georgia.
Police
do
this
assessment,
so
it's
called
the
try
to
remember.
C
C
So
what
tracy
and
I
are
doing,
obviously
we're
naming
it
we're
putting
the
center
of
our
plan
we're
holding
the
chief
constable
to
account
for
how
west
church
of
police
supports
victims,
and
I
don't
think
that
we've
always
done
everything
that
we
could
have
done
and
that's
that's.
That's
come
out
over
the
last
few
days
from
some
victims
who
have
spoken
about
their
experiences.
C
I'm
not
saying
that
the
police
don't
work
really
hard
and
they
don't
try
the
best
that
they're
overworked,
there's
not
enough
police
officers.
The
cuts
are
really
well
rehearsed,
but
that
human
contact
that
we
give
to
victims
needs
to
improve
and
we're
all
tired
out
with.
But
we
need
to
talk
to
each
other
in
we're
using
compassion
and
empathy,
and
I
think
sometimes
in
extremis-
that's
not
always
there,
so
we're.
C
Definitely
putting
that
mirror
up
and
we're
asking
the
right
questions
about
rape
outcomes,
for
example,
which,
ironically,
even
only
nine
and
a
half
percent
positive
outcome,
puts
us
at
the
top
quartile
of
performers,
which
is
a
shock
to
think
that
ninety
percent
of
victims
are
not
getting
justice.
Ninety
cross
percent,
of
which
teams
are
not
getting
justice,
but
we're
top
performers
we're
one
of
the
top
farmers
in
the
country
and
that's
just
part
and
parcel
of
the
terrible
situation
that
we're
in.
But
it's
also
about
it's
not
just
about
policing.
C
There
are
so
many
other
partners,
so
many
other
bits
of
society
that
are
contributing
to
the
state
that
we're
in
and
also
contributing
to,
the
lack
of
justice.
And
I
would
point
to
why
the
criminal
justice
partners,
too,
and
for
some
of
the
things
that
they
do
and
don't
do,
do
and
don't
do
so.
I've
written
to
apc
the
association
of
police
and
crime
commissioner
leads
on
victims
and
criminal
justice
to
really
question
the
national
cps
policy
on
charging.
C
So
it's
completely
changed
and
it
means
it
puts
the
right
of
the
decision
around
charging
on
the
cps,
and
I
sometimes
think
that
maybe
cps
are
judging
jury
in
making
that
decision
and
they're
thinking.
Will
this
be
found
guilty
by
a
jury
and
if
not,
why
we're
going
to
bother
even
trying,
and
so
sometimes
things
don't
get
to
call
that
should
get
to
cart,
because
it's
actually
up
to
the
jury
to
decide
not
cps,
so
I've
written
to
the
apcc
leads
asking
them
to
look
into
that
as
a
matter
of
urgency.
C
B
One
of
the
things
we're
going
to
be
looking
to
promote
and
raise
awareness
around
is
the
ask
angela
campaign
that
we're
doing
which
links
to
vulnerabilities
for
some
women
in
the
nighttime
economy,
both
in
the
city
centre
and
and
more
widely
across
district
centers
as
well.
So
there's
quite
a
lot
of
operational
stuff
working
and
progressing,
but
I
do
think
there's
a
fundamental
thing
about
listening
to
the
voices
of
women
and
understanding
exactly
what
the
nature
of
this
issue
is
in
more
detail.
B
We
are
doing
quite
a
lot
of
work
with
both
main
universities
and
the
students
there
who,
to
some
degree
in
and
amongst
others,
have
been
quite
vulnerable
to
some
of
this,
particularly
this
the
drink,
spiking
issue.
So
maybe
it's
certainly
something
that
we
could
come
back
to
talk
about
in
more
detail
as
work
develops.
J
F
Thank
you
and
good
to
see
you
again
alison.
I
know
that
diversity,
equality
and
inclusion
is
one
of
the
core
ambitions
for
the
plan,
which
is
good
to
see
and
there's
a
reference
to
hate
crime
as
well.
I
just
want
to
highlight
some
issues
around
disability
hate
crime-
if
I'm
here
and
obviously
there's
some
intersectionality
around
that
as
well,
so
other
sected
characteristics
as
well.
F
If
you're
disabled,
you
may
be
a
woman
of
course,
etc
and
again
it
ties
into
the
resource
and
the
commitment,
I
think,
from
tracy
to
increase
frontline
policing
by
seven
thousand.
Is
it
seven
half
thousand
or
seven
hundred
sorry
all
right,
yeah,
yes,
yeah
yeah.
I
put
an
extra
note
on
so
there's
been
a
reduction
in
hate
crime
coordinators,
for
example,
and
I
think
that
is
having
a
an
impact
on
on
service
delivery
at
one
of
the
groups.
I
I
visit
leap
one.
F
You
mentioned
us
to
not
necessarily
implement
the
plumber,
give
give
regard
to
it.
I
think
for
easy
use.
So
hopefully
you
can
push
that
how
important
that
is
for
for
the
officers
to
deal
with
that.
The
other
side
of
things
is:
we've
established
some
good
schemes
to
help
and
support
people
with
disabilities,
but
we
need
them
to
be
sustainable,
so
I'm
thinking
about
the
safe
places
scheme
and
the
auditing
of
those
etc
and
the
retraining
of
of
staff
as
a
staff
change.
F
There
is
a
resource
issue
with
that
and
it's
been
sort
of
grant
funded
through
the
pcc,
and
I
think
the
struggling
aspire
lead
on
that
for
us,
but
they
are
having
to
fund
it
out
of
their
own
sort
of.
You
know
current
budgets,
as
it
were
so
again
looking
to
put
some
and
ask
about
funding
for
those
things
so
I've
I've
got
your
email
now
and
I'm
hoping
to
have
a
meeting
with
you
with
with
some
of
the
people
from
leap
one
just
to
so
that
their
voices
are
heard.
So
thank
you.
C
And
also,
can
I
say
that
I
closed
united
responses
hate
crime
conference
last
week
and
they
they
spent
a
whole
day.
Talking
about
the
issue
of
disability,
hate
crime
and
particularly
learning
disability,
hate
crime
and
they've,
come
up
with
lots
of
recommendations,
they're
going
to
send
them
to
me
as
part
of
the
police
and
crime
planning
process,
which
is
brilliant
and
obviously,
through
that
process.
C
So
it
is
a
major
major
issue
which
we're
very
alive
to
and
if
you
look
at
my
apcc
comment
because
I
chair,
I'm
the
lead
for
equality,
diversity,
human
rights
on
the
association
of
police
and
crime
commissioners
and
when
asked
to
make
a
comment,
I
made
a
comment
about
learning,
disability
and
disability
hate
crime
as
a
priority,
because
I
know
that
that
is
something
that
we
need
to
address.
The
grant
funding
that
you
suggested.
C
There's.
Obviously,
there's
been
a
bit
of
a
moratorium
because
the
courts
were
closed.
So
most
of
the
grant
funding
the
the
safe
communities
fund
that
usually,
where
you
were
able
to
ask
for
the
six
thousand
pounds
they.
The
majority
of
that
came
through
pockets,
are
proceeds
of
crime,
act
monies
and
they
were
linked
to
courts.
C
So,
obviously,
if
someone
was
found
guilty
in
car,
you
got
their
proceeds
of
crime
and
then
50
goes
to
the
police
and
the
police
give
us
50
percent
our
officers
to
disperse
into
communities
by
the
safe
communities
fund.
So
the
mayors,
therefore
community
fund,
will
launch
again
on
the
19th
of
november,
so
there's
going
to
be
comms
coming
out
of
the
next
couple
of
weeks.
So
please
do
look
out
for
those
and
please
do
encourage
all
your
groups
locally
to
apply
for
that
money.
K
K
Piece
of
work,
I
think
we
need
to
push
the
consultation
collectively,
which
you
know
I'm
happy
to
do
when
we
leave
the
meeting
we'll,
certainly
get
that
out
on
social
media,
etc.
I
think
what
you're
doing
is
great.
I
think
you
know
from
from
my
point
of
view
my
sort
of
perspective
we
and
what
I'm
seeing
daily.
We
need
to
bring
it
right
down
to
grassroots,
the
justice
section.
How
many
times
have
we
seen
people
with
multiple
arrests
out,
walking
the
streets
the
very
next
day
to
keeping
people
safe?
K
Drugs
are
a
real
blight
and
I
think
that
you
know
they
almost
underpin
a
lot
of.
What's
going
on
the
multiple
and
complex
needs,
I
absolutely
applaud
early
intervention.
You
know
if
you
can
catch
them
when
they're
that
you're
not
dealing
with
them
when
they're
up
there.
So
I
guess
I've
kind
of
written
that
you
know
crime
is
very
circulatory
based
on
those
four
things
very
circulatory,
that
kind
of
almost
breeds
a
lack
of
respect.
C
Yeah,
thank
you
so
much,
and
particularly
around
the
the
the
example
you
gave
of
somebody
committing
multiple
crimes
and
then
being
seen
walking
the
streets
the
next
day.
The
chief
constable,
john
robbins,
would
be
impassionately
telling
you
now
about
how
he,
how
he's
so
frustrated
with
with
that
situation,
because
the
charging
decision
is
not
west
yorkshire
police's
the
charging
decision
is
criminal.
C
Justice
is
a
cps,
and
so
even
though
locally
I
chair,
the
local
criminal
justice
board,
our
partners
are
amazing:
fantastic
flexible,
really
wants
to
make
these
things
work
nationally.
The
policy
has
changed,
or
there
used
to
be
solicitors
who
were
embedded
within
policing
who
would
give
charging
decisions
there
and
then
then
the
funding
was
cut,
so
they
made
a
decision
to
have
a
telephone
triage
service
which
worked
quite
well.
C
Police
would
form
the
triage
service.
They'd
say
yes,
yes,
yeah,
you
can
charge
cuts
came
again
so
now
what
happens
is
there's
a
central
team
at
cps
the
police
have
got
to
prepare
the
whole
file.
I
mean
the
whole
files
as
though
it's
trial
ready
that
takes
weeks
and
weeks
and
weeks
so
that
person
could
be
walking
the
streets
for
three
months
while
they're
trying
to
get
that
file
together
and
if
there's
multiple
witnesses,
cctv
cameras.
C
The
cps
then
said
nationally
not
locally,
then
said
you
have
to
disclose
everything
whether
that
is
relevant
to
the
case
or
not,
and
that's
all
got
to
be
redacted.
So
I'm
just
paying
the
picture
of
every
crime.
They've
got
to
build
a
file.
They've
got
to
redact
everything:
they've
got
to
disclose
everything.
If
anything's
missed
off
that
disclosure,
the
whole
case
falls,
and
that
might
just
be
a
thing,
a
simple
error
or
information
that
they
don't
know
about
to
to
include.
But
if
it
comes
out
later
on
that
information
is,
is
there
and
haven't
included?
C
70
percent,
which
meant
70
70
of
work
months
and
months
and
months
of
work
rejected.
So
the
system
does
not
work
for
victims.
The
system
is
a
disgrace,
because
that
cannot
be
right.
Oh
and
by
the
way
they
the
the
the
cps
nationally,
have
agreed
a
few
concessions.
So
if
two
men
are
having
a
fight
in
the
street,
the
police
locally
can
say:
let's
charge
them
on
section
39,
because
we've
got
power
to
do
that.
If
that's
in
a
domestic
situation
and
a
man
hits
a
woman,
that's
a
domestic
abuse.
C
The
police
cannot
charge
in
those
circumstances,
it
has
to
go
back
to
cps
and
all
that
trial
file
has
got
to
be
collated,
bloody
glad
blah.
If
you're
intending
to
send
someone
to
prison.
You
know
you
romantic
in
custody.
You
can
charge
then,
but
again,
you've
still
got
to
go
through
a
whole
load
of
process.
So
I
think
I'm
describing
to
you
the
ridiculous
ridiculous
situation
that
they're
facing-
and
this
is
why
the
public
said
the
police
have
a
wish.
C
They
don't
listen,
they
don't
do
anything,
but
their
hands
are
absolutely
tied
and
until
we
get
a
national
system
that
works
for
victims,
we
will
be
in
this
situation.
Forevermore
and
just
on
the
digital
question
that
you
raised:
we've
just
recruited,
68
new
digital
forensic
officers
or
not
police
officers.
They
are
staff
who
have
got
that
especially
specialism
and
expertise.
C
So
hopefully
that
will
help
us
here
in
west
yorkshire
to
download
information,
so
I
think
we're
much
faster
than
most
of
our
most
similar,
similar
forces
in
terms
of
downloading
the
information
from
phones
and
tablets
and
all
the
rest
of
it,
because
we've
got
that
capacity.
But
it's
it's.
It's
a
it's
a
pressure,
because
if
you
can't
download
it
fast
enough,
you
can't
build
that
file.
You
can't
get
someone
charged.
C
A
So,
if
nobody's
got
anything
else,
they
would
like
to
add.
I
mean
I
think,
the
important
one
of
the
many
important
messages
we've
got
today
is
we
need
to
try
and
communicate
this
out
to
our
communities
so
that
as
many
people
respond
so
that
we
can.
You
know
that
the
mayor
can
genuinely
say
it
was
a
genuine
consultation
and
a
large
percentage
of
people,
because
well
certainly
on
this
side
we
often
criticize
consultations,
because
you
get
one
or
two
percent
of
the
population
returning
and
is
that
you
know
statistically
relevant.
A
So
the
more
people
we
get
to
put
the
comments
in,
I
think,
will
help
in
terms
of
the
validity
of
the
plan.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
the
more
people
have
contributed
because
at
least
it
shows
there's
been
engagement,
and
there
is
no
doubt
that
there
has
been
a
great
attempt
to
engage
with
as
many
people
as
possible.
It's
how
you
get
the
hard
to
reach
people,
and
that
has
been
highlighted
by
some
of
the
questions
that
have
been
asked
today
as
to
how
you
get
this
hard
to
reach
people.
A
A
I
think
that
hopefully
some
people
in
the
public
will
take
in
the
spirit
that
it
was
given
by
you.
Okay.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank
you
all
right.
Where
am
I
now?
Oh
dating
me
all
right,
jumping
through
this
agenda,
it's
up
it's
down.
It's
it's
all
over
the
place.
Isn't
it
right?
The
next
one
is
reducing
carbon
emissions
across
the
council
estate
item
10.,
the
new
person
that's
coming
since
then
is
polly.
Do
you
want
to
introduce
yourself
paulie?
Please.
L
A
H
Thanks
chair,
hello,
everybody
very
interesting
scrutiny
board
so
far,
there's
quite
a
variety
of
topics
covered.
Don't
worry,
I'm
just
going
to
do
the
the
brief
just
a
brief
introductions
and
just
counselor
helen
hayden
sends
her
apologies.
Whilst
I'm
not
a
councillor
hayden's
deputy,
I
am
sort
of
deputizing
first,
so
you've
got
a
committee
chair
and
a
chief
officer,
I
think
we're
providing
value
for
money
as
a
as
a
team
for
your
scrutiny
board.
So
this
covers
our.
This
paper
covers
our
work
to
reduce
carbon
emissions
across
the
council's
estate.
H
What
hopefully
you've
read
and
enjoyed
it-
and
I
use
that
word
deliberately
chair,
there's
a
lot
that
we
can
be
very
proud
of
as
an
authority.
What
we're
demonstrating
here,
I
think,
is
a
a
range
of
practical
measures
to
reduce
our
carbon
emissions
and,
as
you
can
see,
from
the
contents
which
polly
will
cover
they're,
really
really
starting
to
have
a
very
profound
and
beneficial
effect.
H
It's
important
that
we
do
this
not
only
for
our
own
operations
chair,
but
it's
important
that
we
demonstrate
to
to
the
city
at
large
what
we,
what
we
can
do
and
what
can
be
done
and
what
can
be
done.
More
importantly,
under
the
the
most
rather
dire
of
economic
circumstances
with
regard
to
our
budget.
Imagine
what
we
could
do
if
we
didn't
have
a
austerity
chair
and
would
particularly
drop
your
attention
to
practical
benefits
of
things
like
the
electric
vehicle
fleet,
which
is
from
around
paragraph
13
onwards.
H
L
Thanks
so
I'll
just
give
a
really
brief
summary.
Hopefully
people
have
read
so
I
won't
repeat
what's
in
the
report,
but
I
think
if
we
look
at
the
corporate
estate,
we
almost
had
our
plans
turned
a
little
bit
on
their
head
over
the
last
year
or
so
and
in
a
positive
way,
in
the
sense
that
we've
managed
to
secure
a
significant
amount
of
funding.
L
The
impacts
of
that
are
quite
significant,
so
it's
really
important
that
we
start
to
speed
up
some
of
this
retrofit,
where
some
of
the
business
cases
will
change
where
we
may
have
struggled
with
business
cases.
I
think
there's
opportunities
now
to
start
to
look
at
different
technologies
and
things
that
will
start
to
actually
provide
some
benefit
and
also
to
look
at
our
energy
strategy
going
forward.
So
we
plan
in
february
to
come
back
with
an
energy
strategy
to
executive
board,
setting
out
not
only
how
we
buy
our
energy,
but
actually
our
whole
approach
to
energy.
L
As
a
council
in
terms
of
things
like
solar
farms,
that
are
mentioned
in
the
report-
rooftop
solar,
pv
and
other
options-
so
that's
a
summary
of
our
corporate
estate.
Our
fleet
contributes
a
kind
of
much
lower
proportion
to
our
overall
carbon
budget,
but
in
some
ways
is,
is
probably
as
tricky
as
the
heat
decarbonization
issue,
and
so
we
are
kind
of
leagues,
ahead
of
most
of
say,
all
local
authorities
across
the
uk.
So
we
have
more
electric
vans
than
any
other
local
authority.
L
We've
made
substantial
progress
on
our
smaller
end
of
fleet.
The
big
challenge
for
us
now
is
actually
what
we
do
with
our
our
bigger
fleet,
where
those
vehicles
don't
really
exist,
there's
not
a
definite
answer
at
a
national
level
about
the
way
that
market
will
go.
Will
it
be
electric?
Will
it
be
hydrogen
which
can
make
the
decision
making
process
much
more
tricky,
we're
in
a
kind
of
vhs
b
to
max
point,
but
we
are
doing
a
lot
in
terms
of.
L
Yeah,
but
we
are
doing
a
lot
in
terms
of
looking
at
the
the
infrastructure
and
looking
at
what
what
we
can
do
to
support
things
like
hydrogen
as
a
fueling
infrastructure,
so
that
we
we
have
got
options,
but
also
with
things
like
our
refuse
vehicles,
the
waste
depots
being
built
with
charges
in
place,
and
we
are
start
we're
aiming
to
have
our
first
electric
refuse
vehicles
in
when
that
depot
opens
in
about
next.
I
think
it's
due
next
november
and
so
again,
there's
still
work
being
done
and
then
the
other
element.
L
So
this
report
really
focuses
on
what
we
call
scope,
one
and
two,
which
is
our
our
real
director
missions.
We
are
starting
now
to
do
more
work
on
scope,
three,
which
is
the
things
that
we
buy
from
others,
and
that
includes
things
like
briefly
or
or
food,
for
example.
So
when
we
come
back
to
executive
board
in
february,
we
will
start
to
pull
together
an
action
plan
on
certain
aspects
of
that
scope,
3
as
well,
and
so
that
our
overall
carbon
plan
for
the
council
becomes
more
extensive.
D
D
Again,
which
I
think
is
very
good,
of
course,
with
the
solar
panels,
some
buildings,
depending
on,
where
strategically
they
are,
the
solar
panels,
don't
say,
don't
work,
but
you
wouldn't
put
solar
panels
on
them,
but
I
believe
that
solar
panels
are
a
good
thing
and
certainly
where
we
can
put
them
on
houses.
We
should
be
doing
so,
and
I'd
like
to
know
more
about
that.
B
L
Sure
say
in
terms
of
what
we've
done
in
terms
of
solar,
so
we
had,
I
think,
842
kilowatt
peaks
pre-covered
and
during
covid
we
have
put
more
than
double
of
that
on,
so
we've
now
got
about
two
and
a
half
thousand
kilowatt
peaks.
That
still
probably
only
represents
two
to
three
percent
of
our
electricity
consumption
and
we
have
covered
a
fair
amount
of
our
roofs.
Now
with
solar,
so
rooftop
solar
has
limitations.
L
There
have
been
quite
a
few
buildings
that
actually,
for
different
reasons,
we've
not
been
able
to
put
solar
on
so
we
started
with
a
long
list
and
discounted,
but
our
aim
is
to
continue
to
put
sailor
on
all
the
buildings
where
it's
feasible
and
in
terms
of
solar
farm.
We
have
got
a
number
of
different
sites
that
we
are
looking
at,
we're
in
quite
early
stages
and
we're
hoping
to
work
with
west
yorkshire
combined
authority,
and
to
do
some
of
that
initial
feasibility
work
with
us.
L
That
probably
has
the
potential
of
adding
anywhere
up
to
about
10
of
our
electricity,
depending
on
how
many
of
the
sites
were
successful
and
feasible
from
planning
and
all
the
other
constraints,
and
and
then
that
leaves
us
with
the
the
kind
of
the
end
part
which
is
probably
about.
I
don't
know
anywhere
between
85
to
90
of
our
electricity,
and
with
that
we
we
have
a
few
options,
so
we
we
could
buy
green
electricity
as
a
lot
of
consumers
do,
but
it
doesn't
create
much
additionality.
L
L
However,
the
reason
that
we,
so
we
were
planning
to
do
that
in
2020,
obviously
covered
came
along
made
that
more
tricky,
but
also
we
secured
this
25
million
pound
fund
entering
into
a
ppa
isn't
as
quick
as
just
switching
your
supply
over,
and
so
we
took
the
decision.
We
would
focus
on
delivering
the
25
million,
which
provides
the
energy
efficiency
as
well
as
the
solar
generation,
as
well
as
the
move
away
from
gas
to
electric,
and
so
that
that
was
kind
of
the
change
of
priority.
L
So
it's
not
that
we
won't
do
it,
but
we've
just
had
to
manage
within
the
resource
and
part
of
the
the
report
that
comes
in
february
will
set
out
actually
what
proportion
we
look
to
buy
through
the
ppa
and
what
we
just
do
through
our
standard
electricity
purchasing
and
that
will
come
back
in
february,
but
we'd
be
looking
at
actually
kind
of
sponsoring
a
new
facility,
not
necessarily
within
leeds
and
so
beyond.
What
we're
doing
in
terms
of
the
sale
of
farms
ourselves.
F
Thank
you.
It's
a
very
interesting
report
and
lots
of
good
work
going
on
there.
I'm
going
to
be
a
bit
picky
about
how
we
report
things
and
how
we
at
the
proud
boast
about
the
number
of
electric
vehicles.
We
are
one
of
the
biggest
councils
with
one
of
the
most
vehicles.
So
really
we
should
have
the
most
electric
vehicles,
so
surely
the
measure
should
be
the
percentage
of
our
fleet
that
has
been
converted
to
electric
or
hybrid
that
we
should
be
quoting
and
we
should
be
proud.
F
You
know
rightly
proud
of
as
well,
because
I
know
we
are
ahead
of
other
local
authorities
and
just
to
highlight
again
particularly
things
like
this
leasing
car
leasing
scheme
that
you're
looking
to
introduce.
I
think
that
that's
could
be
hugely
beneficial
and
I
hope
our
staff
to
take
you
up
on
that.
I
imagine
it
will
be
controversial
when
the
changes
to
the
allowance
petrol
allowance
diesel
allowance
coming,
but
I
think
the
important
thing
is
that
we've
got
viable
alternatives
for
people
in
place
when
it
comes
to
those
discussions.
L
So
I
think
there's
something
about
how
we
drive
down
the
mileage
in
the
first
place,
because
it
helps
you
know
some
people
to
be
more
efficient
in
what
they're
doing,
if
they're
not
traveling,
all
around
everywhere
as
well,
but
there
are
obviously
some
jobs
that
that
is
necessary.
So
it's
just
trying
to
make
sure
we
provide
alternatives
to
staff,
so
we'll
be
looking
at
all
options
on
that.
L
B
Thanks
so
much,
and
just
I
thought
about
the
green
investment
bank-
that
I
think
we've
now
got
in
needs,
or
it's
happening
soon
or
it's
emerging
or
growing
and
just
wondering
about.
We
are
well
placed
to
have
a
good
strategic
relationship
with
them
potentially
and
I'm
sure
they're
out-
and
I
know
there
are
lots
of
very
emerging-
exciting
businesses
around
yorkshire.
B
Some
in
sheffield
homicide,
doing
really
interesting
work
that
we
could
have
synergy
with,
and
you
know,
provide
a
bit
of
an
institutional
partner
to
which
kind
of
helped
both
of
us
us
to
realize
our
green.
You
know
ambitions
and,
but
also
be
first
adopting
lots
of
things
and
if
we
could
use
the
green
investment
bank
to
help
us
provide
synergy
for
some
of
those
I
mean
some
of
those
organizations
are
looking
to
create
sustainable
aviation
fuel
out
of
municipal
waste.
B
L
So
we've
met
with
the
uk
infrastructure
bank.
Personally,
I
think
I've
met
with
them
twice
and
I
know
that
others
have
also
met
with
them
and
talking
about
different
investment
opportunities
and
within
our
own
work
and
but
also
helping
to
break
some
of
those
discussions
with
other
organizations
so
that
that
is
already
starting.
I
think,
but
they
are
at
quite
an
early
stage
in
their
process
at
the
minute,
they're
not
fully
up
and
running
and
fully
staffed,
and
we
are
working
with
businesses
that
are
approaching
us.
L
K
Thank
you,
chad,
so
a
couple
of
things,
it's
great
that
you're
continually
bidding
and
that
there
are
funding
pots
available
to
bid
into
so
that's
a
good
thing.
I
liked
the
scheme
that
was
recently
introduced
where
households
with
an
income
of
under
30
000
pounds
per
annum,
got
free
solar
panels
on
the
house.
That's
great
now
a
couple
of
my
residents
have
benefited
from
it
and
they
think
it's
amazing
with
regards
to
the
future
and
our
staff
and
even
residents
to
a
degree,
have
you
considered.
K
Cards
where
you
could
you
know
that
they
could
pay
monthly.
I
know
in
a
in
a
previous
role
that
I
worked
in.
We
had
that
option
for
staff
primarily
in
london,
because
travel's
so
expensive
and
they
they
applied
for
a
card
and
paid
for
it
over
the
the
course
of
the
the
year,
and
I
wondered
whether
that
would
be
once
confidence
returns
to
sort
of
public
transport,
whether
that
might
be
an
option
for
our
staff.
K
H
Yeah,
thanks
just
to
respond
to
it.
Probably
gonna
cover
travel
cards.
It
is
a
great
tribute
to
polly
and
her
team
and
other
teams
in
the
council.
We
heard
from
housing
colleagues
earlier
that
they've
been
very
successful
in
bidding
for
the
pots
of
funding
that
do
come
up
and
that's
very
much
to
be
welcome.
However,
I
would
say
that
small
pots
of
funding
being
available
to
bid
for
very
tight
windows
of
opportunity
is
frankly,
chair,
no
way
to
run
a
railroad.
H
It
is
genuinely
no
substitute
for
secure,
sustained
sources
of
local
government
funding
and
it
shouldn't
be
entertained
that
it
is,
but
I
have
a
fantastic
team
that
is
fantastic
at
winning
these
bids,
but
it
is
no
substitute
and
none
of
these
pots
of
money
are
remotely
close
to
being
commensurate
the
scale
of
the
problem
we
face
as
a
whole.
To
give
you
some
examples
here,
the
government
announced
its
boiler
program
the
other
day.
H
I'm
sure
you
also
on
the
news,
the
scheme
that
will
be
available
with
a
grant
for
replacing
gas
boilers
with
air
airsoft
heat
pumps,
90
000
homes.
Wonderful
problem
is
the
grant
only
covers
around
a
third
of
the
cost
of
an
air
source
heat
pump
and
it's
only
90
000
homes
across
the
uk
across
england.
Rather
because
they're
in
scotland,
it
will
be
in
wells,
it
would
have
devolved
matter.
There
are
400
000
households
in
england,
sorry
in
leeds
alone,
90
000.
H
It's
we're
in
great
danger
of
well,
I
don't
think
actually
we're
in
great
danger
as
an
administration
but
more
widely
in
the
country,
we're
in
great
danger
of
not
realizing
this
sheer
scale
of
mobilization
of
resources.
That's
needed
and
I
think
it's
typified
at
the
moment
in
the
government's
approach
to
bidding
where
you've
got
again:
small
pods
for
money
shot
windows
to
bid.
Everyone
goes
crazy
to
bid
for
them
and
there's
a
small
win.
There's
nothing
like
the
sustained
scale
of
mobilization
of
resources
and
a
change
of
mindset
from
government.
A
You've
got
to
start
somewhere,
you've
got
to
start
somewhere,
and
you
know,
let's
give
them
credit
for
at
least
accepting
the
issue,
because
if
you
look
at
countries
throughout
the
world,
it
is
britain
that
is
currently
being
at
the
forefront
of
most
of
the
leading
things
that
are
being
done.
We
are,
as
a
country
can
be
very
proud
of
what
we've
done
so
far
because
of
activities
of
people
like
the
council
in
terms
of
what
they've
been
able
to
do.
So
there
are
two
sides
to
your
cut
your
coin.
A
We
know
you
keep
wanting
money
for
everything
all
the
time,
but
you've
got
to
make
sure
that
it
works
you
how
many
other
times
you
we've
invested
as
a
country
in
things
that
haven't
worked
and
we've
had
to
come
back
and
retrofit.
It
look
at
the
design
of
some
of
the
houses.
We've
been
having
a
debate
the
last
few
days
about
airy
houses
throughout
the
city.
Well
in
retrospect
that
wasn't
necessarily
the
correct
way
to
build
the
houses,
because
it's
led
to
problems.
A
So
I
accept
what
you're
saying,
but
let's
have
a
degree
of
unanimity
about
this-
that
we
and
unless
we
work
together,
we
won't
get
anywhere.
You
know
unless
we
work
together.
If
we
start
taking
polarized
political
views,
then
that
will
just
cause
problems
for
the
community,
because
the
community
then
don't
get
access
to
funding.
I
was
at
a
seminar
the
other
day
where
some
of
your
colleagues
were
talking
about
getting
access
to
green
funding
to
green
up
their
areas
at
it
was
a
scrutiny
board
inquiry.
A
We
were
doing
about
the
park
strategy
and
about
the
need
to
top
slice
some
of
the
money
that's
coming
in,
so
that
some
of
the
communities
can
get
access
to
it,
which
I
support.
I've
got
no
problem
with
it,
but
that
shows
you
how
we
need
to
work
across
the
council
and
try
not
polarize
arguments,
because
it
doesn't
do
anybody
any
good
at
all.
The
government
are
doing
what
they're
doing.
A
Because
again
we
could
have
a
wonderful
debate
about
what
some
of
the
things
the
money
gets
spent
on,
but
let's
try
and
keep
scrutiny
non-political.
If
we
possibly
can.
We
are
very
good
as
a
scrutiny
board.
Yes,
occasionally
we
do
go
into
political
things,
which
is
fine,
but
let's
not
put
it
we're
working
together.
Scrutiny
is
about
the
council
working
together
as
a
whole,
not
just
party
politics
in
what
we're
doing
you
know,
because
nobody
is
without
sin.
Everybody's
got
a
lot
to
do.
Why
have
we
waited
so
long
to
get
where
we
are
today?
A
We've,
not
I've,
certainly
known
about
climate
change.
Since
the
mid
2000s,
I
was
one
of
the
few
people
when
I
was
in
charge
when
we
were
in
power
and
actually
long
ago,
that
was
that
started
to
get
the
climate
emergency
action
group
up
and
going
and
it's
evolved
since
then,
so
that
was
when
there
was
a
labor
government.
Should
they
have
done
more
at
the
time
and
set
setting
precedence
put
in
something
into
legislation
like
we've
got
for
overseas
aid,
that
is
a
part
of
the
gdp
gets
allocated
directly
to
it.
A
So,
let's
be
fair,
let's
not
because
I
do
not
enjoy
the
political
banter
at
scrutiny.
If
we
want
your
political
banter,
let's
do
it
in
the
council
chamber
where
we
can
have
it,
but
in
scrutiny
we're
meant
to
be
working
together.
So
it's
welcome
what
you're
saying,
but
let's
try
and
keep
it
collegiate,
because
we
need
to
work
together,
officers
and
members
alike,
because
we
can
all
do
our
bit.
But
thank
you.
H
Chair,
if
I
may
just
to
very
very
brief
to
come
back
on
that,
I
mean
merely
highlighting
the
problems
of
structure,
scale
and
process
within
how
our
relationship
with
central
government
is
occurring.
At
the
moment.
I
don't
think
there's
any
problem
with
scrutiny
of
that
being
raised
at
scrutiny
and
that's.
L
Too
I
hadn't
forgotten
I've
got
it
written
down
and
so
in
terms
of
travel
cards,
staff
can
get
like
an
annual
card
for
the
metro
card
through
the
their
salary
scheme,
so
that
that
is
in
existence
and
there's
also
something
called
the
corporate
metro
car.
So
if
I
was
going
outside
and
wanted
to
use
the
bus
or
the
train,
I
could
pick
up
a
card
and
use
it
and
there's
money
on
that.
So
that
does
exist
as
well
and
I
think
pre-covered.
L
I
think
we
were
there.
We
decided
that
there
needed
to
be
a
bit
more
work
about
people
making
people
aware
of
those
and
also
looking
at
what
sites
held
them.
So
things
like
saint
george's
house
and
civic
and
marion
have
them
not
necessarily
places
that
were
kind
of
further
out
and
coming
in.
So
there
was
some
work
to
look
at
that
which
has
obviously
not
been
happening
because
there's
been
no
mileage
recently,
but
we
will
pick
that
back
up
because
it
is
a
valid
point.
L
K
A
Okay
on
that
note,
I
have
no
further
questions.
Thank
you
very
much
to
council
wallshot
and
to
paulie
for
presenting
the
paper
to
us
today,
because
it
does
show
how
we
are
moving
along
to
meeting
our
target
of
2030,
and
it
is
welcome
the
initiatives
that
have
been
put
in
place
through
the
hard
work
of
not
the
largest
team
within
the
council,
but
by
people
who
are
committed
and
to
reaching
this
goal
and
helping
us
reach
there.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
A
I'm
suggesting
that
we
just
note
this
paper
just
now
and
at
the
next
meeting
we
will
get
an
update
from
mr
money
and
the
anti-social
behavior
team
as
to
how
mischief
night
and
the
fireworks
went
this
year
and
I
think
we'll
be
able
to
reflect
back
as
to
whether
or
not
our
recommendations
are
correct
and
the
department
have
responded
in
the
spirit
that
it
was
meant
so
to
attract.
Take
that
we
were
happy
to
note
that
yes,
consider
richie.
Yes,.
F
Yeah
forgive
me:
can
I
just
ask
a
question
on
sort
of
procedures
on
these
things?
Does
the
government
have
to
formally
respond
to
us
because
there's
been
discussions
about
a
white
paper
going,
which
we
always
get
a
government
minister
replying
to?
Is
that
does
that
happen
with
scrutiny
as
well?
Well,
we.
A
In
other
cases,
we've
not
and
what
I've
tended
to
do
is
when
I've
not
I've,
then
done
it
jointly
with
the
relevant
executive
member,
so
councillor
cooper
and
I
on
a
number
of
occasions,
have
written
down
jointly
and
we've
been
able
to
get
illicit
a
response
from
it
and
because
it
then
shows
the
cross
party
that
we
are
not
divided
on
a
particular
issue.
So,
yes,
it
is
in
most
instances,
but
it
wouldn't
be
true
to
say
that's
true
in
every
case,
you
know,
but.
A
Yeah
that
yeah,
as
far
as
that
white
paper
was
concerned,
it
was
going
to
come
forward.
It
was
because
it
was
felt
it
was
far
better
to
let
scrutiny
have
their
say
first
of
all,
and
then
decide
whether
or
not
the
white
paper
needed
it
or
not.
So
that
was
what
was
behind
that
one.
Thank
you
so
for
note.
We've
now
for
anybody
who
was
because
the
media
have
picked
up
on
this
particular
report.
A
I
apologize
if
anyone
has
you
know
from
outside,
has
been
trying
to
listen
into
the
debate
on
this,
but
it
will
be
taking
place
in
november,
and
this
time
far
as
item
12
was
concerned,
we
had
this
report.
We
commented
it,
it
was
sent
back.
It
came
back
again
and
it's
come
back.
Finally,
so
again,
can
we
just
note
item
12,
as
well
as
part
of
the
procedure
that
we've
got
to
adopt
right?
A
A
So
again,
we'll
probably
we're
we're
trying
to
see
well
no
to
have
a
better
tree
maintenance
policy,
because,
certainly
in
a
number
of
our
council
estates,
a
lot
of
our
residents
want
trees,
pruned
back
and
it's
not
happening,
and
what
we
don't
want
necessarily
to
happen
is
we
want
the
trees
removed
totally.
We
just
need
a
tree
maintenance
one
and
it's
black
and
white
at
the
moment,
and
certainly
some
people
think
there
should
be
a
degree
of
grey
coming
into
it.
So
that's
coming
forward.
So,
apart
from
that,
thank
you
very
much.