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This time with a keynote and a panel, we highlighted the positivity, success & achievements stories from people working in an inclusive space such as blockchain, share learnings & advices, encourage & inspire new entrants. Blockchain can solve our problems only if we let its diverse stakeholders contribute to this process!
A
Hello,
hello,
guys
from
italy
from
maria
and
thanks
jeremy,
for
participating
at
6
00
am,
I
hope
you
hear
me
well,
we
can
start
this
new
edition
of
friday.
Branch
is
the
number
six
and
we
are
very
excited
actually
for
this
for
this
edition,
because
we
we,
we
will
talk
about
a
very
hot
topic
and
a
very
interesting,
interesting
topic,
and
this
topic
is
diversity
in
our
space.
So
how
blockchain
is
inclusive
and
diverse?
A
I
want
just
to
to
read
again
the
the
code
of
conduct
that
we
want
to
keep
in
designing
this
event,
because
we
want
positivity.
We
have
a
very
hard
time
now,
especially
in
italy,
where
I'm
locked
down
again,
but
we
we
have
to
stay
positive
and
especially
for
this
event,
I
would
like
to
ask
you
some
some
rules
to
to
follow
so
be
respectful
and
kind,
so
avoid
negativity
and
bad
sentiments
be
curious.
A
We
are
here
to
learn
from
each
other
and
don't
be
shy,
so
ask
any
question:
you
have
in
the
chat
at
any
time.
So
there's
no
time
for
questions
you
can
ask
whenever
you
want
and
enjoy
the
discussion
and,
of
course
share
the
link
with
your
friends
as
well
as
now
for
the
live
and
also
afterwards,
the
same
link
will
be
available
for
the
recording.
A
A
Cool
so
basically
chef
ali
is
we
invited
her
because
she's
a
very
successful
women,
a
woman,
and
she
is
one
of
our
maker
dao's
board
of
member
of
board
of
directors.
So
her
experience
is
super
super
inspiring
for
for
everyone,
not
just
for
women,
but
in
general
for
everyone.
So
I
would
like
her
to
introduce
herself
and
explaining
us
how
she
decided
to
join
blockchain
space
and
why,
from
from
scratch,
so
I
will
remove
myself
from
the
from
the
video.
B
Thank
you
hi,
good
morning,
good
afternoon,
good
evening.
I
think,
wherever
you
are,
it's
so
lovely
to
be
here.
Thank
you,
marianne
to
spandana
for
inviting
me.
As
maria
was
saying,
I
sit
on
the
board
of
the
maker
foundation,
and
so
that
was
one
of
the
reasons
that
I
was
asked
to
just
come
and
say,
hi
and
give
you
all
a
quick
brief,
and
I
think
I
have
about
10
minutes
just
give
you
a
quick
overview
of
my
career
and
then
please
feel
free
to
ask
questions
in
the
chat
or
even
afterwards.
B
I
think
we
have
about
four
or
five
minutes
after
so
the
reason
and
the
way
my
career
has
run
it's
a
very
weird
trajectory.
It's
had
very
weird
cycles.
I
academically
am
an
economist.
I
did
parlay
a
little
bit
into
art
history.
I
did
a
bit
of
law
and
I
did
a
bit
of
journalism,
but
fundamentally
I'm
an
economist
and
I've
been.
I
used
to
work
as
an
economist
in
my
early
career
in
banking.
B
I
started
my
career
in
australasia
and
I
worked
for
banks
and
and
insurance
companies
over
there,
and
then
I
moved
to
the
united
kingdom
about
15
years
ago
to
come
again
and
do
another
degree,
and
I
was
studying
at
the
london
school
of
economics
and
I
worked.
I
was
studying
economic
history
and
after
I
finished
that
I
then
decided
to
work
in
europe
because
I'd
never
done
that,
and
so
I
started
working
at
goldman
sachs
and
I
worked
at
gorman's
for
a
couple
of
years
in
private
wealth
and
asset
management.
B
My
field
and
I
wasn't
working
as
an
economist
at
that
time
in
my
field,
when
I
started
working
in
banking
and
since
then,
actually
has
been
in
regulatory
affairs
policy,
privacy
and
compliance,
and
so
that's
really
my
field
and
background
in
terms
of
my
professional
capacity
and
what
I
do,
and
so
I
worked
at
goldman's
for
a
while.
I
worked
across
europe,
middle
east
and
india
and
it
was
a
lot
of
fun
and
and
gomez.
I
don't
know
if
all
of
you
have
worked
in
gorman's
or
know
people
who
work
there.
B
It's
a
very
phenomenal
kind
of
business
and
it's
a
crazy,
competitive
business
internally
as
well
as
externally,
and
so
banking
was
really
going
great
guns.
Actually
this
was
around
20,
2005
2006.
and
then,
as
you
all
know,
the
financial
crisis
came
up
came
about
in
2008
and
at
that
time
I
decided
okay.
This
is
this
has
been
wonderful,
but
I
really
need
a
change,
and
so
I
changed
and
moved
careers
and
verticals
from
going
into
banking
into
the
art
world,
and
so
I
started
working
at
christie's.
B
So
for
any
of
you
who
have
indian
parents,
this
is
kind
of
like
the
amazing
opportunity
where
you
get
to
tell
your
parents.
You
know
I
might
have
studied
art
history
and
you
might
have
thought
it's
not
a
great
job
to
have,
but
now
I'm
working
in
the
art
world-
and
I
can
actually
use
my
degree
for
something.
So
that
was
one
of
the
reasons
I
worked
at
christie's,
but
it's
a
completely
different
world
and
if
you
can
expect
the
art
world
is
very
unique.
It's
very
closed.
It's
very
insular,
it's
kind
of
incestuous.
B
Everybody
knows
everybody
else.
The
marketplace
is
kind
of
bonkers
because
you
represent
the
buyer
and
the
seller.
It
is
a
very,
very
unique
industry
and
almost
the
opposite
really
of
when
you
think
about
digital
currencies
and
the
world
that
you
all
are
in
and
working
in
things
like
blockchain
or
working
in
things
like
cryptocurrency.
It's
almost
the
opposite
of
a
very
open,
inclusive
world.
The
art
world
is
the
complete
opposite
of
that,
and
so
I
did
that
for
multiple
of
years.
B
It
exposed
me
to
some
of
the
most
phenomenal
art
you
have
ever
seen
or
would
ever
imagine
was
existing,
and
that
was
terrific,
because,
as
a
fan
of
art,
you
kind
of
don't
get
to
do
that,
so
it
being
inside
was
kind
of
wonderful
and
fantastic,
and
so
I
did
that
for
a
number
of
years,
but
the
art
world
kind
of
suffered
greatly
actually
during
the
financial
crisis,
and
so,
as
you
can
imagine,
there
was
a
downturn
in
the
luxury
good
market
and
in
the
art
world,
because
no
one
was
buying
anything
anymore,
because
no
one
could
afford
to
do
that.
B
And
so
I
decided
okay,
let
what
else
do
I
love?
Besides?
Banking
or
finance
and
besides
art.
What
else
do
I
love
and
I
kind
of
love
technology,
and
so
I
stopped
working
at
christie's.
I
took
a
bit
of
a
sabbatical
tried
to
find
my
next
role
and
my
next
gig,
and
then
I
joined
apple
in
in
2010-11,
as
their
chief
compliance
officer
and
apple
again
in
a
different
way,
was
the
complete
opposite
of
christie's,
because
it
had
process
and
leadership
and
ethics
and
conduct
and
the
way
they
run
their
business.
B
The
way
apple
runs
their
business
from
my
perspective
was
a
very
solid
process,
driven
framework
driven
ethical
business
and
my
job
at
apple
as
a
chief
compliance
officer,
was
to
really
build
out
things
like
conduct
things
like
supply
chain,
compliance
or
labor
compliance
or
environmental
compliance,
and
so
they
finally
sort
of
realized.
B
Let's
codify
all
of
these
things
and
make
it
brilliant
so
that
there's
a
standard
and
apple
has
a
standard
of
how
you
do
things,
and
so
that
was
a
lot
of
the
reason
why
I
joined
apple
for
a
number
of
years,
which
was
really
really
a
lot
of
fun
and
I
was
totalling
along
and
really
having
a
good
time
there.
When
a
company
called
stripe,
which
you
may
all
know,
which
is
a
payment
company
called
me
and
said:
hey,
listen!
B
Do
you
want
to
come
and
join
this
startup
called
stripe
and
I
never
heard
of
the
company
when
I
had
talked
to
them.
I
think
they
were
only
about
80
people
globally,
and
so
I
was
based
in
london
and
I
used
to
shuttle
between
london
and
san
francisco
for
my
apple
job,
and
so
that's
how
I
got
to
know
people
at
stripe
and
then
stripe
was
like
come
and
join
this
company
called
stripe.
B
It's
really
cool
and
I
think
I
was
the
oldest
person
at
stripe
for
a
good
year,
so
I
was
aging
quite
quite
rapidly
at
that
company.
But
it
was
a
lot
of
fun
because
you
got
to
really
see
how
companies
and
great
companies
get
born
and
great
companies
get
incubated
and
scaled
and
stripe,
as
you
guys
might
know,
now
is
a
very,
very
successful
company
in
a
very
successful
payments
company
as
well
and
really
revolutionizing
how
you
think
about
finance
and
technology
and
marrying
technology
with
finance.
B
And
so
I
was
at
stripe
for
a
couple
of
years,
building
out
their
compliance
and
building
out
their
operational
and
regulatory
frameworks
all
across
the
world.
And
when
I
joined,
as
I
said,
I
was
only
about
the
80th
90th
person
there.
But
when
I
left
a
couple
of
years
later,
they
had
grown
to
nearly
900
to
1000
people,
and
so
the
the
lovely
wonderfulness
of
joining
a
small
company
really
disappeared,
because
it
then
became
this
massively
big
organization
and
a
massively
big,
very
much
corporate
type
company,
which
then
I
thought.
B
Actually,
I
love
kind
of
startups
and
I
love
the
smaller
companies.
So
let
me
try
and
go
back
to
that
and
at
the
same
time
there
was
a
lot
of
talk
in
the
industry
about
digital
currencies
and
stable
coins
and
how
that
world
could
revolutionize
to
make
a
more
inclusive
financial
economy,
and
so
that
started
sort
of
picking
my
interest
about
alternative
currencies
and
what
that
world
looks
like
and
so
one.
B
Yes,
I
don't
know
me
you
all,
don't
do
this,
but
one
dabbles
in
in
bitcoin
or
dabbles
in
ethereum
and
all
this
sort
of
stuff,
and
so
I
did
that
very
early
on
but
learning
I
spent
a
lot
of
time:
learning
the
industry
and
learning.
What
does
it
actually
mean,
and
what
does
it
mean
when
you
kind
of
have
a
stable
coin,
pegged
to
a
fiat
currency
and
what's
the
difference
and
what
are
the
nuances
and
what
are
the
governance
requirements
that
are
important
for
that
market
to
self-sustain?
B
And
so
in
parallel
to
being
exposed
at
stripe,
then
working
in
financial
technology.
I
then
joined
a
company
called
true
layer
in
2017
which
opened
up
and
was
an
infrastructure
technology
company
that
looked
at
revolutionizing,
open
data
and
open
finance,
and
that
was
really
precipitated
actually
because
of
regulation
that
changed
in
europe
which
allowed
for
that
and
our
company
sat
in
the
middle
of
two
applications
to
make
sure
that
they
had
the
technology
technology
rails,
to
transfer
the
data.
And
so
I
was
the
ceo
of
trulea
for
many
years.
B
I
only
recently
left
about
a
month
ago,
but
that
was
what
that
company
did,
and
in
that
process
I
actually
got
to
know
the
folk
said
maker
and
talk
to
them
about
what
they
were
doing
in
terms
of
the
stablecoin
and
learning.
And
what
I'd
learned
was
like
this.
This.
This
idea
of
using
a
stable
coin
pegged
and
underwritten
by
a
cryptocurrency,
but
then
also
run
by
the
market
and
decentralized,
so
that
more
people
can
come
into
the
market
and
utilize
that
financial
infrastructure
was
very,
very
healthy.
B
And
so
my
career
trajectory
over
the
past
couple
of
years
has
sort
of
dabbled
in
different
types
of
industries.
But
when
I
was
talking
to
spandana
and
maria
about
this
talk
as
one
of
the
things
that
has
driven
me,
my
entire
career
is
what
was
interesting
to
me
and
what
made
me
tick
and
what
made
me
curious?
It
wasn't.
B
B
So,
if
mike
for
me,
my
career
has
always
been
directed
and
driven
by
what
makes
me
tick
and
what
makes
me
happy
and
and
makes
me
enjoy
it
and
go
to
work
every
day
and
have
a
happy
smile
and
face
every
day
when
I
get
to
that,
and
so
that's
the
history
of
my
career.
I
know
it's
really
really
short
and
very
quick,
but
I'm
trying
to
be
very
conscious
of
the
time
that
I've
been
allotted.
So
that's
really
my
a
very
quick
summary
of
career.
C
A
I
have
one
question
myself
so
how's
here
where
you,
when
you
decided
to
like
go
back
in
the
startup
system
from
a
big
company,
because
it
happened
to
me.
I
I
have
a
very
short
career
in
in
comparison
to
you,
but
I
passed
from
a
big
company
to
this
startup
blockchain,
because
it's
not
only
startups.
It's
also
something
that
you
don't
know,
because
blockchain
is
completely
new.
You
know.
So
I
was
a
bit
scared
and
I
want
to
ask
you
a
few
words.
B
I
was
absolutely
scared.
I
was
absolutely
petrified
so
when
the
biggest
change
for
me
was
moving
from
apple
to
stripe,
because
I
mean
you
know,
apple
is
a
great
company,
I
mean
I
know
you
might
be
samsung
users
and
that's
fine,
but
apple's
a
great
company,
and
it
was
a
dream
for
me
to
work
at
apple,
and
so
the
biggest
change
was
moving
from
apple
to
stripe.
Because
strike
was
a
small
company.
No
one
really
knew
about
it.
It
hadn't
really
been
that
successful
yet
and
it
could
have
failed.
B
You
know
it
could
have
failed,
but
my
brother
gave
me
a
really
good
piece
of
advice.
He
said
these
are
two
things
he
said.
Firstly,
just
make
sure
you
have
saved
enough
money
that
you
can
pay
for
your
household
expenses
so
that,
god
forbid
you
lose
your
job.
You
don't
lose
your
home.
That
was
the
first
thing
and
the
second
thing
he
said
was
get
comfortable
with
it
collapsing,
because
if
the
worst
thing
that
happens,
that
the
company
fails,
that's
okay,
because
you
can
get
another
job
and
you're.
You
know
smart
and
hopeful.
B
I
hope
I'm
stuck
but
you're
you're
capable
enough
that
you
can
get
another
job.
You
have
experience
enough
that
you
can
get
another
job,
but
this
is
such
a
wonderful
amazing
opportunity,
sure
it's
risky,
but
when
do
you
get
the
chance
to
be
like
employee
five
in
a
company?
You
don't
get
that
often
you
know,
particularly
in
nowadays
and
so
take
the
risk.
At
least
it's
at
least
it's
a
industry.
You
know
like
I
was
familiar.
Stripe
is
in
payments
and
in
finance.
B
B
And
so
when
I
got
comfortable
with
the
fact
that
if
the
worst
thing
that
happened
was
strike
failed
and
I
could
get
another
job,
then
it
was
really
a
fun
adventure
and
a
roller
coaster.
Because
then
it
was
optimism
and
curiosity
and
thinking
goodness,
I've
never
been
exposed
to
this
world,
and
we
have
to
do
everything
because
we're
so
small
and
it's
really
wonderful
to
get
a
company
started
from
scratch,
and
that
was
always
exciting.
A
Yeah,
so
we
have
another,
that's
really
inspiring
thanks.
We
have
another
question
from
jeremy:
how
have
you
met
people
to
help
you
move
from
curiosity
to
a
new
job.
B
Oh
jeremy,
thank
you
and
good
morning.
It
must
be
so
early
in
california
for
you
but
good
morning.
How
did
I
meet
people?
So
one
of
the
things
that
I've
learned
in
my
career
is
you
have
to
be
happy
to
give
without
expecting
anything
back
and
whether
that's
helping
people
in
your
team
and
your
colleagues
in
your
circle
of
friends
in
your
university
circle
of
friends,
you
have
to
be
happy
to
give
without
expecting
anything
in
return.
B
You
know
giving
very
altruistically,
and
so
in
my
career,
I've
been
able
to
maintain
relationships
and
friendships
and
networks
for
the
last
20
years
across
the
world,
and
whenever
someone
has
asked
me
for
help,
I've
always
always
given
it,
and
when
I
needed
help.
I
asked
I
asked
friends
and
acquaintances
and
people
in
my
my
circle
to
say:
hey,
listen,
I'm
looking
for
a
new
job
or
I've
heard
of
this
company.
B
What
do
you
think
does
anybody
know,
give
me
some
advice
or
whatever
I've
never
ever
been
turned
down
for
help,
and
so
I
think
it's
very
much
this
world,
where
you
have
to
be
okay
to
help
people,
because
it's
actually
a
wonderful
thing.
But
when
I
met
people
I
mean
jeremy
to
your
question.
It
was
very
much
maintaining
friendships,
maintaining
contacts,
seeing
how
we
could
help
people
and
help
each
other,
and
then,
when
I
needed
help
and
I
reached
out
to
a
handful
of
friends
or
acquaintances.
B
They
were
always
there
to
give
me
advice,
even
advice
to
say:
don't
do
things,
because
you
know
you
never
know
you
might
be
ignorant
of
stuff
and
so
even
to
sanity
check.
I
was
always
lucky
enough
to
have
a
circle
around
me
who
were
able
to
do
that.
A
C
A
Have
time
for
an
another
quick
question,
if
you
can
be
like
very,
very
quick
in
answering
so
as
as
a
formal
banker,
why
did
you
choose
to
join
the
crypto
space
when
you
know
very
well
that
crypto
will
make
centralized
bank
obsolete.
B
A
A
Thanks
for
your
for
your
very
very
insightful
and
inspiring
talk,
and
now
I
will,
I
will
close
your
your
video,
so
thank
you
for
your
participation
and
I
will
invite
our
panel
moderator
spandana
on
the
screen.
Hello
spandana.
Can
you
hear
us
hi
marie.
A
Okay:
okay,
no
echo!
It's
only
you,
okay!
I
will
also
invite
the
other
speakers,
because
now
we
will
have
a
panel
and
the
spandana
will
moderate
the
panel.
D
A
A
E
Great
thanks
maria,
as
maria
mentioned
I
am
spontaneous.
I
am
a
senior
people
operations
manager
at
maker
and
I'm
very
happy
to
be
hosting
this
panel
of
amazing
speakers
who
some
of
you
I
got
to
know,
and
I'm
and
I'm
thankful
for
every
one
of
you
for
being
here
and
sharing
your
story.
A
E
Yeah
all
right,
well
jen,
amelia,
griffin
and
maggie.
Thank
you
so
much
for
joining
us
today
to
kick
things
off.
If
you
wouldn't
mind
just
sharing
with
us
your
background,
your
role
right
now
and
what
brought
you
into
the
blockchain
space
that
would
be
great,
so
we'll
start
off
with
maggie
actually.
C
Okay,
cool
hi
thanks
so
much
for
having
me
today.
It's
exciting
to
be
here
up
with
all
the
panelists,
and
so
my
back.
I
guess
what
I
do.
C
I'm
co-founder
and
director
of
business
development
for
a
crypto
company
called
web
through
cloud,
which
is
a
joint
venture
between
advanced
micro
devices
and
consensus,
and
I've
been
working
on
that
for
the
past
three
years,
and
I
also
recently
started
an
initiative
called
shify
and
it's
about
onboarding
and
educating
more
women
and
eventually
all
genders
into
the
decentralized
finance
and
crypto
space,
to
make
it
more
inclusive
and
make
sure
we're
actually
participating
in
the
economies
and
helping
build
the
economies
that
we
want
to
see.
C
And
I,
before
that
I
came
before
I
was
at
consensus
for
the
past
three
years
and
then
before
that
I
was
at
ibm
watson,
doing
a
product
strategy
for
watson
and
financial
services,
and
that's
where
I
first
heard
about
blockchain.
I
was
in
a
meeting
and
we
were
talking
about
like
what
are
all
the
different
technologies
that
are
going
to
influence
financial
services
in
2016
and,
like
somebody
kept
talking
about
blockchain,
I
just
found
it
interesting
that
somebody
kept
bringing
it
up.
C
So
I
went
into
barnes
and
noble
and
got
the
blockchain
revolution
by
the
tapas
scots
regardless.
However,
you
think
about
them.
It
was
a
really
great
primer
and
really
opened
my
eyes
to
all
the
exciting
things
that
crypto
could
do,
and
especially
living
in
new
york.
Thinking
about
like
how
do
we
actually
make
financial
inclusion
happen?
How
do
we
kind
of
take
it
from
wall
street?
C
Being
able
to
you
know
kind
of
keep
a
grip
on
keeping
like
wealth
behind
like
closed
doors
right
like
if
you're
in
wall
street
you're,
always
privy
to
certain
information
forever
and
ever,
and
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
like
disrupt
that
and
make
sure
more
people
could
have
the
opportunities
to
build
wealth
and
so
found.
Consensus
got
a
coffee
with
somebody.
C
There
really
loved
the
energy
and
I've
been
in
crypto
ever
since,
and
I
think
it's
a
really
exciting
time
to
be
here,
especially
with
dfi
we're
kind
of
seeing
what
initially
brought
me
to
the
space
like
this
opening
of
finance
and
so
yeah.
I'm
excited
to
help
do
that.
E
D
Sure
yeah,
I
actually
started
my
crypto
journey
here
in
ecuador,
where
I
am
now
where,
when
I
I
I
wanted
to
exit
the
financial
system,
I
I
felt
that
there
was
a
lot
of
economic
oppression
happening
in
the
states
and
the
closed
gate
to
creating
financial
assets,
really
kind
of
pissed
me
off
honestly,
and
so
I
I
just
wanted
to
remove
myself
from
that
whole
system
and
travel
around,
and
eventually
I
found
bitcoin
and
cryptocurrencies,
and
I
found
oh
wow.
D
People
can
now
create
their
own
economic
assets
and
they
don't
have
to
be
part
of
the
the
inner
circle
of
the
sec
and
wall
street
and
all
that
game,
which
is
you
know,
95
ceos
are
male
and
it's
just
it's.
It's
a
horribly
exclusive
wealth
building
opportunity
in
there.
So
when
I
found
crypto,
I
got
really
excited
and
I
wanted
to
come.
D
Evangelize
it
in
ecuador,
because
ecuador
was
one
of
my
favorite
places
in
the
world
and
they
need
it
more
than
anyone
else
they're
using
the
us
dollar
and
they
don't
have
a
way
to
actually
provide
funding
for
their
own
public
goods.
Besides,
taxation,
which
is,
is
really
difficult
to
to
do
down
here
so
after,
but
sadly
ecuador
made
bitcoin
illegal.
So
I,
and
at
the
time
there
was
really
only
bitcoin,
there
were
other
altcoins,
but
at
the
time
it
was
just
bitcoin
right.
D
So
I
ended
up
getting
a
master's
degree
in
digital
currencies
and
I
started
working
for
slokket
and
I
I
have
to
apologize
for
the
dow.
That
was
one
of
my.
That
was
probably
what
catapulted
me
into
something
in
the
crypto
space
and
since
then
I
founded
I'm
like
a
serial
crypto
non-profit
founder.
D
I
started
giveth,
which
is
a
charity
platform,
also
the
common
stack,
which
I
I
wrapped
pretty
hard,
which
is
trying
to
build
economies
around
nonprofit
causes
and
and
public
goods,
and
also
I
had
a
hand
in
starting
dap,
node
and
various
other.
I
support
a
lot
and
advising
a
lot
of
crypto
non-profits
in
general.
E
G
Yeah,
hey
everyone,
so
my
name
is
jen.
I
work
at
the
maker
foundation
on
the
business
development
role.
I've
been
here
for
about
actually
over
two
years,
it's
gone
very
fast,
but
I'm
listening
to
shefali.
I
actually
have
a
lot
of
similarities
in
her
career
path
and
kind
of
the
places
that
she
has
made
spots
along
the
way
which
is
really
interesting.
So
when
I
graduated
college
many
many
years
ago,
my
my
goal
was
to
be
a
journalist,
so
I
actually
did
you
know
very
short
stint
as
a
reporter.
G
You
know
working
on
local
publications
and
that
slowly
turned
into
advertising
sales.
So
I
moved
to
the
city,
and
actually
I
joined
an
art
publication.
It's
it's
called
art
news
and
it's
actually
one
of
the
oldest
art
publications
still
in
circulation,
and
I
spent
a
couple
years
there.
You
know
working
with
galleries,
working
with
independent
artists,
working
with
museums
in
new
york,
city,
onboarding
them
and
essentially
helping
them
to
market
their
stuff,
which
was
really
exciting.
G
I
I
do
understand
exactly
what
shapali
is
talking
about
the
about
the
kind
of
culture.
That's
within
that
space,
which
is
super
unique,
and
then,
from
that
point
I
I
continued
in
advertising
sales
roles,
but
into
publishing
companies.
So
I
worked
for
publications
that
are
part
of
the
financial
times.
Then
a
lot
of
different
type
of
blogs
and
eventually
came
to
a
point.
G
What
am
I
going
to
invest
my
time
now
as
a
new
mom
and
realizing
how
limited
time
is
and
how
you
know
how
valuable
it
is
to
you
know,
commit
yourself
to
something
that
you
actually
like
doing.
I
started
just
doing
a
little
bit
of
you
know
asking
around
my
network.
What
do
you
think
would
be
interesting?
I
know
I
want
to
stay
in
business
development.
I
know
I
love
sales.
G
I
know
I
want
to
stay
in
something
very
tech
focused
and
a
friend
of
mine
who
had
just
become
real
excited
about
this
new
thing.
Called
the
blockchain
told
me
to
check
that
out.
So
I
was
like.
Okay
did
some?
Google
searches
started
reading
about
it
and
it
was
like
interesting
immediately,
but
I
didn't
quite
know
how
I
would
relate
to
it.
G
So
then
I
continued
to
do
a
little
bit
more
like
maggie
just
took
you
know,
went
to
the
bookstore
found
a
book
on
it
on
bitcoin
actually
did
an
online
course
and
came
to
a
point
where
I
was
like
this
is
really
interesting.
Still,
I'm
not
sure
you
know
what
it's
all
gonna.
You
know
what
it's
all
about,
but
I
I
felt
intrigued
enough
and
you
know
just
out
of
good
timing.
While
I
was
looking
at
job
opportunities,
the
maker
foundation
was
hiring
on
the
business
development
team.
G
I
applied,
and
now
I've
been
here
over
two
years
and
it's
been
an
incredible
journey
so
yeah
from
from
now
to
and
looking
back
at
where
I
was
kind
of
feeling
this
lack
of
interest
in
in
my
previous
role,
I
didn't
quite
have
the
words
or
knowledge
to
articulate
what
I
didn't
like
about
it,
but
now
what
having
been
you
know
exposed
to
what
web
3
brings
and
how
it
really
reverses
this
model
of
of
you
know
bringing
back
value
and
distribution
to
all
participants
as
opposed
to
extracting
it.
G
You
know
these
few
very
large
big
companies
like
google,
facebook
web
2,
as
we
know
it
extracting
data
and
privacy
from
from
us
as
users
on
the
internet.
I
didn't
understand
what
what
I
didn't
like
about
it
until
I
learned
about
what
it
could
be
in
this
form
of
web3,
and
so
now
I
have
this.
You
know
I
didn't
know
at
the
time,
but
it
really
resonates
with
me
on
a
whole
different
level.
G
So
you
know
I'm
continuing
to
learn,
there's
not
a
day
that
goes
by
where
I
don't
feel
challenged
mentally
to
figure
out
something
new.
That's
coming
up
in
the
space
and
I
think
it's
really
exciting,
so
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
at
today.
E
I
definitely
second
that
I'm
going
into
eight
months
in
the
blockchain
space
and
I'm
definitely
learning
every
day,
so
I've
been
told
that
amelia
is
actually
having
technical
difficulties.
So
we
will,
we
hope,
to
see
her
in
future
friday
brunches,
but
we'll
keep
this
one
going
jen.
The
first
question
is
actually
for
you:
we've
chatted
quite
a
bit
about
the
transition
from
publishing
into
blockchain,
and
a
lot
of
your
job
is
also
building
relationships
outside
the
foundation.
E
What
are
some
of
the
challenges
that
you
face,
particularly
in
blockchain
space,
compared
to
other
industries?
Yeah,
I
mean.
G
Like
I
said
this
space
is
so
new
and
dense
with
information
that
you
know
not
being
a
developer
by
trade
myself.
You
know
I
have
to
spend
a
lot
of
time,
really
understanding
something
just
to
really
get
the
the
baseline
idea
of
what
what
a
new
application
or
you
know,
protocol
has
developed
right
because
it's
still
so
much
concentrated
with
the
developer
person
right
now,
the
builders
in
the
space
and
now
we're
seeing
more
jobs.
G
You
know
I've
noticed
like
on
linkedin
and
other
places,
you're
seeing
more
jobs
for
marketing
biz
dev,
but
primarily
it's
it's.
You
know
it's
been
very
concentrated
in
the
developer
role.
So
with
that
you
have
you
know
just
as
a
person,
you
know
who
sits
on
the
biz
dev
team
and
is
trying
to
you
know,
create
partnerships
across
this
whole
ecosystem.
G
It's
important
for
me
to
to
have
you
know
enough
of
an
understanding
of
what
what's
taking
place.
So
I
guess
the
challenge
for
me,
is
you
know,
or
it's
a
really?
It
is
a
positive
is
just
making
sure
that
I
can
relate
to
this
new
space
in
a
way
that
will
be
beneficial
to
my
job
at
the
maker
foundation.
G
I'm
also
probably
much
older
than
the
average
person
in
the
space.
You
know.
I
think
this
is
like
a
great
attribute
that
people
you
know
are
graduating
from
schools.
You
know,
and
instead
of
going
to
work
at
goldman
or
the
financial
industry
they're
coming
into
the
blockchain
space.
You
know
people
from
stanford
and
all
these
fantastic
universities
they're
choosing
to
come
into
this
space.
G
So
there's
a
lot
of
like
22
to
25
year
olds,
and
you
know
not
that
I
could
be
their
mom,
but
sometimes
I
feel
like
they're
cool
aunt
when
I'm
talking
to
them-
and
it's
like
you
know
so
for
me,
it's
you
know
just
being
conscious
that
there
is
this.
You
know
there
is
this
difference,
but
that's
okay
and-
and
I
actually
like
that,
you
know
that
we're
kind
of
being
pulled
together
from
these
different
lifetimes
and
different
experiences
and
I
think,
having
more
people
like
myself
coming
in
from
you
know
different.
G
You
know
you
know
years,
and
you
know
different
experience
will
continue
to
help
move
this
space
forward.
So
that's
kind
of
you
know
the
challenges
are
all
positive,
but
it's
you
know
a
lot
for
me.
As
you
know,
not
being
a
developer
by
trade
and
being
not
a
young
male
developer
is
is
something
that
is
you
know,
is
a
factor,
but
not
in
a
negative
way.
E
Yeah,
no
that's
great
thanks
for
sharing
griffin
and
maggie
you've
both
been
in
different
industries
as
well.
Do
you
somewhat
relate
to
this
experience
anymore?.
E
D
I
I
I
can
definitely
bounce
off
the
importance
of
diversity
of
age,
gender
and
and
backgrounds,
because
you
know,
especially
in
a
large
organization
like
maker
makers,
started
out
with,
with
the
the
the
dev
culture
being
very
strong.
It's
a
very
much
a
almost
a
technocracy.
You
know
at
the
beginning
and
it
now,
as
it's
grown,
it's
become
much
more
diverse
and
much
more
accessible.
I
actually
was
part
of
the
white
hat
group
team
that
audited
the
original
makerdale
contract
and
like
psy,
and
even
when
it
was
called
sais.
D
I
turned
to
die
and
anyway
history
stories
and
man.
You
know
the
code's
very
inaccessible
and,
and
it
creates
an
extra
level
of
barrier
to
entry
for
people,
and
now
you
I've,
seen
maker,
really
expand
and
be
focused
on
bringing
the
extra
financial
accessibility
to
south
america
and
other
parts
of
the
world
that
really
need
it.
And
if
you're
going
to
do
that,
you
can't
have
a
bunch
of
white
devs.
D
You
know
western
culture,
devs
being
the
ones
to
decide
the
the.
How
do
we
outreach
these
people?
How
do
we
develop
tools
for
these
people?
It's
not
going
to
work!
They're
not
them.
We
need
diversity
in
our
space
if
we're
actually
building
revolutionary
tech
and
revolutionary
tools.
The
the
western
white
male
is
not
the
one
who
needs
the
revolution
right,
so
I
yeah
and
maggie.
What
do
you
think.
C
So,
in
terms
of
coming
from
like
a
different
industry,
I've
always
been
in
tech
ibm
is
obviously
set
up
very
differently
than
a
company,
like
consensus
was
set
up
when
I
was
there.
So
when
I
first
heard
about
blockchain,
I
really
wanted
to
get
into
the
blockchain
unit
ibm,
but
there
was
like
red
tape,
red
tape,
my
boss,
liked
me:
you
have
to
go
price
mainframes
for
you
know
years,
and
I
was
like
no
like
blockchain's
happening
now.
C
That
kind
of
like
catapulted
me
to
like
leaving
and
getting
into
the
blockchain
space,
and
so
just
like
the
layers
were
immediately
collapsed
at
the
time.
Consensus
was
very
much
trying
to
be
like
a
very
flat
organization,
so
like
being
able
to
co-found
a
company.
Joe
was
just
kind
of
like
yeah,
like
you
did
a
good
job
in
this
meeting
like
lead.
This
deal
right-
and
I
was
like
I've-
never
done
this
before
so
that
was
that's
like
a
huge
difference,
and
what
really
excited
me
about
this
space
is.
C
I
do
think
if
you
have
an
idea,
and
and
even
with
shify
right
like
that's
just
something
I
decided
to
start
and
got
some
feedback,
everyone
was
like
go
do
it,
so
I
think
that's
something
really
cool
about
being
in
a
new
tech
space
is
that
you
don't
have
to
have
like
approvals
and
red
tape
and
contracts
and
blah
blah
blah,
and
like
do
things
you
don't
want
to
do
in
order
to
get
to
where
you
want
to
go.
Obviously
you
sometimes
always
have
to
do
work.
C
That
is
less
pleasant
in
life,
but
I
think
that
was
like
immediately
something
very
different,
but
in
terms
of
like
challenges,
I
echo
the
other
place
it's
just
when
I
forgot
to
consensus.
I
wasn't
above,
and
so
I
just
like
inner
panic
like
I
was
like.
I
can't
believe
they.
Let
me
in
here
like,
like.
C
Oh
my
gosh,
like
reading
the
theory
on
paper
over
and
over
and
over
again
and
like
everything
I
could
consume
and
at
that
time,
like
the
transition
timeline
for
proof
of
stake
was
like
on
a
reddit
thread
in
like
2017,
like
information.
Wasn't
that
accessible
and
now
bringing
in
people
clearly
we
have
a
lot
of
storytellers
in
chat
and
and
on
stage
and
and
being
able
to
communicate.
C
The
vision
of
ethereum
and
the
vision
of
decentralized
technology
is
something
that
you
need
people
with
different
ways
of
communicating
and
different
backgrounds
and
different
ways
of
painting
the
vision.
In
order
to
tell-
and
I
think
that
was-
was
very
lost
on
crypto
when
I
first
got
here
and
it's
definitely
picking
up-
it's
definitely
improving.
C
But
I
think
that
was
a
challenge
at
first
like
oh
you're,
not
a
dev
like
what
are
you
even
doing
here,
and
I
was
like
oh
my
gosh
and,
and
that
has
taken
time
change
and
I
have
had
very
pleasant
experiences
working
with
people
and
definitely
like
I
had
me.
I've
had
many
opportunities
because
it
was
a
new
industry,
but
I've
also
seen
like
some
of
those
challenges,
as
everyone
was
saying,
because
because
it's
a
new
industry,
a
new
tech
industry.
C
So
it's
definitely
changing,
though,
and
it's
just
like
really
exciting
to
still
be
here
and
like
watch
us
all
mature
together.
E
Yeah,
thank
you
for
sharing
that.
I
think
what
both
you
said,
griffin
and
maggie
said
about
building
diverse
groups.
I
think
that
kind
of
dovetails
us
very
nicely
into
the
next
question
and,
to
the
extent
each
of
you
want
to
share
what
role
does
building
a
diverse
group
of
people
coming
together
and
doing
a
project
and
making
that
successful
within
the
community.
D
Yeah
yeah
sure
I
mean,
as
I
said
in
the
blockchain
space,
especially
we're
built
we're
not
building
for
white
males,
I
mean
the
the
challenge
is
that
we
have.
We
do
have
a
technical
hurdle,
I
mean
just
last
night.
I
helped
someone
who
someone
from
colombia
who
actually
sent
three
ether
to
a
ds
proxy,
a
their
maker,
dow
vault.
They
they
sent
it
from
an
exchange
directly
to
the
contract.
Luckily
you
guys
made
this
really
awesome.
D
Withdraw
you
know
solution
for
it,
so
that
they,
I
just
sent
them
the
link
to
the
app
and
they
were
able
to
pull
it
out.
But
there
is,
there
is
a
technical
hurdle
to
using
this
tech
right
now.
It's
not
really
easy
for
people
that
aren't
from
a
tech
background
to
dive
in
and
understand
how
to
play
with
it.
So
that
does
make
a
serious
challenge
that
we
have
to
acknowledge,
but
the
end
goal
is
to
bank
the
unbanked.
D
The
end
goal,
at
least
for
me,
is
to
support
financial
revolutions
and
and
give
people
economic
freedom.
So
we
need
to
be
able
to
start
now.
We
need
to
start
now
by
by
including
people
from
diverse
backgrounds
and
diverse
cultures,
diverse
ages,
diverse
spectrums,
so
that
we
can
get
this
tech
out
to
everyone
now
in
general.
D
Of
course,
diversity
is
critical
for
for
any
company
for
any
organization,
even
if
your
goal
is
just
to
make
rich
white
guys
richer,
you
should
still
include
diversity
in
your
team,
because
their
the
difference
of
opinion
can
create
conflicts
and,
if
you're,
a
good
team,
these
conflicts
can
actually
be
beneficial.
I
mean
this
kind
of
brings
actually
the
my
friend
juan
carlos
who
we
were
talking
the
reason
he
told
me
that
he
got
his
money
stuck.
D
There
is
because
we're
building
a
conflict
management
system
for
or
a
project
called
the
token
engineering
commons,
because
conflict
is
something
that
we
should
that
we
should
go
into
head
first
and
actually
strive
for,
and
if
you
have
a
bunch
of
people
with
the
same
backgrounds
and
the
same
ideas
and
the
same
perspectives,
they're
not
going
to
have
conflicts,
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
challenge
your
ideas
and
evolve
them
and
in
a
space
like
this,
you
know
that's
so
fast
paced.
C
I
really
love
that
you
brought
up
like
this
idea
of
conflict
and
I'm
reading
a
book,
and
part
of
it
is
like
having
better
conversations
asking
better
questions
like
improving
the
words
that
we
use
every
day,
and
I
think
that's
super
one
of
the
takeaways
is
like
ask
questions
that
seek
to
understand
not
to
seek
to
find
common
ground.
So
we
likely
have
all
the
people
that
look
like
each
other
building
technology
building
businesses,
building
whatever
it
is.
C
We
like
we
are
seeking
for
common
ground,
probably
in
our
conversations,
not
necessarily
to
like
understand
and
to
like
you
know,
just
come
to
an
understanding,
and
maybe
that
will
lead
us
to
like
a
better
outcome
rather
than
we're
trying
to
get
everybody
to
be
on
the
same
page,
which
groupthink
more
easily
happens
in
groups
of
people
that
look
like
each
other.
So
I
just
like.
C
I
think
that
is
something-
and
I
think
we
see
this
all
over,
like
just
understanding,
nuances
and
human
beings
and
people
and
and
what
we're
building
and
what
we're
trying
to
build
is
super
important.
If
we
want
to
build
something
that
you
know
can
vastly
include
more
people,
I
mean
I
also
was
listening
to
a
talk
the
other
day
and
black
man
said
that,
even
though
he
has
the
same
credit
score
as
white
people,
this
is
in
ohio.
He
has
like
higher
rates
on
his.
C
You
know
on
on
opening
an
account
for
banking
and
I'm
immediately
like
oh,
my
gosh
like
this
is
what
crypto
is
supposed
to
be
doing
right
like
we
should
be
listening
to
people
like
that
and
involving
people
like
that
that
have
vastly
different
baking
experiences
than
I
do.
As
a
you
know,
young
professional
white
woman
and
like
that's,
who
we
need
to
be
building
for,
like
I
love
all
the
crazy
stuff
we're
seeing
going
on
in
crypto
right
now.
It's
like.
C
I
wonder
if,
like
I
always
get
nervous
that,
like
we're
missing
the
point
and
we're
we're
not
actually
unbanking
and
banking
people
helping
people
become
their
own
banks,
but
obviously
this
all
takes
time,
but
part
of
that
is
like
knowing
without
knowing
those
types
of
stories.
C
You
know
we
might
develop
something
that
looks
different
because
we've
never
had
that
experience
before
right
so
like.
That
is
why
diversity
is
super
important,
especially
like
you
know,
we're
building
like
the
global
value
transfer
rails
for
the
world,
like
we've
already
touched
this,
but
like
who's
building
it,
and
I
just
think
in
in
all
types
of
projects
by
including
diverse
people.
I've,
just
I've
learned
so
much
more,
like
incredible
amounts
more
by
working
with
someone
who
looks
differently
than
me.
Who
thinks
differently
than
me.
C
That
helps
me
like
understand
something
about
their
history,
their
current
reality
and
like
sometimes
those
conversations
have
taken
longer
when
they've
included
people
of
different
identities
or
the
way
they
identify
themselves.
C
But
it's
been
super
rewarding
to
be
a
part
of
that
and
to
think
about
what
equity
and
and
what
inclusion
actually
looks
like
in
in
our
space
and
in
the
world
like
we
think
we're
building
the
future
right
of
like
the
global
financial
system
and
the
way
that
people
are
going
to
interact
with
each
other
like
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
acknowledge
and
accept
and
believe
people's
realities
and
help
them
and
build
those
into
like
this.
Better
future.
E
Yeah,
thanks
for
sharing
that
maggie
jen
from
your
experience,
I
think
both
griffin
and
maggie
highlighted
the
power
of
building
the
diversity
of
thought
to
begin
with.
How
has
it
helped
you
with
you
know
maintaining
relationships
with
your
partners.
G
Yeah
I
mean
I
would
echo
what
both
of
everybody
has
said.
You
know,
I
think
it's
really
important,
that
we
don't
get.
You
know
just
have
one
way
of
looking
at
something
and
building
something
and
it
and
a
key
way
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
not
just
you
know,
working
with
blinders
on
is
to
have
different
perspectives
from
different
regions.
G
You
know,
I
think,
looking
at
the
way
the
business
development
team
is
structured
at
the
maker
foundation,
there's
one
of
us
situated
in
a
local
market.
You
know
we
have
somebody
in
asia,
we
have
somebody
in
latin
america,
we
have
myself
and
a
couple
people
in
north
america
and
somebody
in
europe
and
while
those
are
still
very
big
spaces,
it's
at
least
addressing
you
know
an
understanding
of
what
is
going
on
on
a
more
local
level.
G
So
so
we
know
how
to
best
you
know
help,
because
otherwise
you
know
we're
just
building
from
from
you
know
a
vacuum
and.
E
G
Really
help
anybody
long
term,
if
there's
some,
if
we're
building
for
inclusivity
and
open
access
and
and
really
trying
to
change
the
current
models,
so
you
know,
I
think
you
know
just
looking
at
it
from
a
local
standpoint
is,
is
is
really
key.
E
For
sure,
I
would
like
to
end
on
a
positive
note,
so
for
each
of
you,
I'm
going
to
ask
for
a
success
story.
If
you
will
a
direct
result
of
building
diverse
groups
and
then
how
it
resulted
in
a
successful
project,
maggie
you've
been
involved
in
several
women
empowering
initiatives.
Would
you
like
to
start
with
sharing
a
success
story
with
us.
C
Yeah,
so
I
mean
quickly
working
on
she,
fine
working
with
a
cohort
of
women,
like
I
have
people
taking
shifi
content
to
like
their
local,
like
fintech,
meetups
and
like
sharing
that
which
I
think
is
awesome
or
like
immediately
using
uniswap
right
after
I
gave
a
lesson
on
it
or
opening
a
loan
on
maker
dow
so
like
that's,
obviously
a
very
like
tangible,
direct
result
where
they
had
not
used
those
platforms
before
but
something,
I
think,
is
also
important
in
the
united
states.
C
We've
been
having
a
lot
going
on
this
year
in
the
summer,
with
the
black
lives
matter,
movement
and
once
again,
seemingly
like
the
easiest
social
impact.
Crypto
thing
that
could
be
done
is
people
actually
enabling
non-profits
to
be
able
to
accept
crypto,
because
we
have
these
borderless
currencies
and
then
we
actually
don't
have
a
way
to
make
sure
that
people
from
anywhere
in
the
world
can
use
this
borderless
currency
for
things
they
may
be
passionate
about,
at
least
in
the
united
states.
C
You
can
only
donate
in
u.s
dollars
right
and
you
have
to
be
in
the
us.
So
I
like
tweeted
out
about
that,
and
then
we
had
devon
walsh,
vivek
singh
from
get
coin.
A
simona
pop
from
about
well,
not
bounties
anymore,
from
status,
and
you
know,
and
a
few
people
come
together
and
then
we
also
had
like
tony
shang
and
jill
carlson.
But
you
know
we
immediately
just
like
self-organized
and
we're
like
how
can
we
enable
donations
for
black
lives
matter?
C
I
also
had
a
friend
come
in
my
friend
alia.
She
actually
works
at
a
non-profit
in
new
york
city
so
and
then
we
also
got
the
giving
block
guys
to
come
in.
C
So,
like
all
of
a
sudden,
we
just
like
a
group
of
different
people
in
crypto,
specifically
in
donations
and
then
in
the
actual
non-profit
social
justice
world
come
together,
so
we
could
actually
fundraise
and
we
raised
intern
like
we
raised
for
donation
matching
on
git
coin,
like
25
000,
and
then
we
had
like
onboarded
nine
groups,
but
that
was
because
my
friend
coming
from
that
world
was
able
to
work
with
the
giving
block,
but
guys
to
do
all
the
calling
to
fit,
and
we
on
crypto
side
like
fundraise
and
get
people
excited
about
matching
donations,
and
I
had
some
of
my
friends
like
donate
money
and
I
helped
them
like
learn
about
crypt
a
little
bit
but
anyways.
C
I
think
that
was
a
huge
success
story
and
I
think
it
also
showed
we
have
a
long
way
to
do
like
all.
Non-Profits
should
be
able
to
accept
crypto
and
we
should
like
every
like.
That's
not
it.
I
know
it's
not
like
hackathon
thing
like
we
see
all
these
cool
ideas
coming
up
in
the
social
impact
space,
but
when
it
comes
down
to
it,
we
actually
can't
get
money
where
it's
needed.
But
to
me
that
was
just
like
a
huge
win,
because
it
it
was
something
I
was
super
passionate
about.
C
Other
people
in
the
crypto
space
were
passionate
about
it
and
people
in
the
non-crypto
space
we're
passionate
about
understanding
like
what
is
the
cryptocurrency,
and
how
can
I?
How
can
I
be
a
part
of
it,
and
how
can
I
get
that
fundraising
done
and
how
can
I
get
money
to
where
it
counts,
and
so
we
just
saw
a
lot
of
different
people
within
the
space
and
outside
the
space
come
together
to
make
that
happen
in
like
two
weeks.
It
was
like
crazy.
C
It
was
done
so
quickly
and
I
just
think
it's
super
important
to
have
all
types
of
people
working
on
those
initiatives.
And
then
you
know
byproduct
is
educating
nonprofits
about
crypto,
getting
them
interested
in.
C
You
know
how
it
can
accept
donations
to
this,
and
then
you
know
just
self-organizing
and
coming
together,
which
I
think
is
a
huge
thing
that
can
be
done
in
the
crypto
space
and
we
raised
a
lot
of
money
and
and
made
a
positive
impact
in
that
way,
and
so
that
is
something
that
happened
recently
that
I'm
excited
about,
and
I
just
think
it
shows
the
power
of
diversity
and
like
the
way
we
look
and
the
people
we
are,
but
also
in
the
types
of
organizations
that
we
bring
in
to
like
make
something
happen
if
it
was
just
crypto
people
trying
to
raise
money
on
git
coin.
C
For
you
know,
a
crypto
thing
I
think
we
wouldn't
have
had
much
of
an
impact
is
bringing
in
people
from
the
non-profit
side,
especially
in
like
social
justice,
equity
and
initiatives.
So
that
was
it
really
powerful
and
impactful
to
be
a
part
of.
E
Yeah
the
whole
crypto
nonprofit
side
is
just
fascinating
in
itself,
and
I
know
griffin,
you
have
quite
a
bit
of
experience
in
there.
Would
you
like
to
share
a
success
story?
There.
D
Yeah
I
mean
for
me:
giveth
is
the
success
story.
Our
lead,
dev
amin
is
from
the
middle
east
and
we
took
a
risk
on
him.
I
mean
you
know
it's.
It's
really
also
to
touch
on
jeremy's
question
here
in
the
chat
which
is
to
you
know.
What
is
the
advice
you
can
give
curious
people
and
what
advice
who
want
to
get
in
the
blockchain
and
what
advice
can
you
give
blockchain
companies
to
connect
them
with
potential
candidates?
I
just
you
know.
As
a
non-profit,
we
don't
have
a
token.
We
don't
have.
D
D
The
talent
that
exists
in
in
south
america
and
the
middle
east
in
africa
and
and
we
we
took
a
chance
on
amin
and
he's
a
powerhouse
he's
he's-
are
the
best
dev
that
giveth
has
ever
seen
and
he
is
leading
the
entire
development
process
and
building
a
team
of
people
to
work
on
our
project
that
I
I
can't
even
really
communicate
with,
because
they
don't
speak
english.
You
know,
but
they're
incredibly
affordable
to
hire
and
we're
sending
money
into
a
place
that
needs
it.
D
You
know
it
feels
good
to
send
money
into
those
those
disadvantaged
economies
and
marginalized
economies
and
and
the
talent
is
there.
Humans
are
talented.
You
know
it
doesn't
matter
what
your
background
is
and
and
they're
doing
such
amazing
work.
Getting
things
done
so
fast
and
and
amin
is
basically
leading
building
a
small
dev
team
in
the
middle
east
and
and
that's
what's
going
to
catapult,
give
it
forward
for
the
future.
D
So
it's
I
mean
that's
just
one
of
many
success
stories
of
really
diving
in
and
and
supporting
the
economies
that
need
it
and
the
people
in
those
economies
and
getting
them
into
crypto.
At
the
same
time,
it's
a
win-win.
E
That's
great
and
we
hope
to
see
him
in
future
friday
brunches
if
he
would
like
to
share
his
story.
Jen
we're
gonna,
give
you
the
last
word
here,
because
I
know
you
work
with
some
partners
that
are
doing
really
interesting
projects
have
have.
You
worked
with
very
diverse
group
of
people
coming
together
and
building
an
interesting
project.
G
Yeah,
I
mean,
I
think
you
know,
there's
across
a
lot
of
our
integration
partners.
You
know
a
lot
of
it
is
with
the
infrastructure
you
know
about.
You
know
looking
at
wallets
exchanges,
financial
apps
that
will
ultimately
ultimately
help
support
people.
You
know
all
over
the
world
that
are
looking
to
you
know,
have
access
to
a
financial
system
and
and
those
that
have
been
pretty
much
shut
out
by
a
traditional
financial
system.
So
I
think
you
know
die
as
as
this
open,
unbiased,
global
digital
currency.
G
You
know
it's,
it's
really,
you
know
it's
its
power
is,
is
ultimately
to
be
able
to
be
used
in
all
these
different
ways
that
griff
and
maggie
have
mentioned,
and
and
just
kind
of
be
this
asset.
That
is
kind
of
like
the
blood
to
power.
These
these
these
goals
and-
and
you
know,
help
people
in
in
various
ways.
So
yeah,
you
know,
I
look
at
you
know,
there's
a
dao,
it's
fairly
new
called
metagama
delta
and
they
are
a
you
know:
they're,
essentially
raising
funds
to
help
women.
G
You
know,
execute,
launch
their
own
projects
and
and
they
you
know,
we
awarded
them
a
die.
Grant-
and
you
know,
I
think,
that's
one
example
of
how
you
know
we're
we're
trying
to
help
and
bring
awareness
to
people
really
striving
to.
You
know
kind
of
break
out
of
the
confines
of
of
the
traditional
financial
world
and,
just
you
know,
challenges
of
getting
funded
from
vcs,
ultimately
yeah.
I
think
you
know.
Our
hope
is
that
dye
is
this
tool
that
can
be
used
by
anyone
anywhere.
E
F
C
A
I
want
to
thank
you
a
lot
spandana
for
taking
care
of
the
moderating.
You
were
really
good,
you
guys,
all
of
you
super
inspiring
stories
and
really
positive
vibes,
and
this
is
what
we
actually
wanted
from
this
event.
A
I
really
recommend
everyone
to
share
this
recording,
because
I
think
it
will
be
helpful
for
so
many
people
so
as
as
far
as
we
as
we
can
go
with
the
sharing
the
better,
and
I
also
want
to
invite
everyone
to
suggest
topics
for
the
next
friday
branches,
because
from
conversation,
a
lot
of
cool.
A
Potential
topics
emerged,
so
I
would
love
to
cover
the
the
the
something
of
this
and
that's
it.
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
participating,
accepting
the
invite.
I
also
want
to
say
hello
to
amelia,
who
is
not
was
not
able
to
connect
on
the
screen,
but
probably
she
we
can
invite
her
for
some
other
event.
A
Every
month
we
are
here
with
the
friday
branch.
Please
visit
our
website
because
we
are
hiring.
We
have
a
lot
of
open
positions,
everyone
can
apply.
So
if
you
are
not
in
the
space,
if
you
are
a
woman,
if
you
are
from
africa
from
india,
for
whatever
you
can
apply
so
apply,
I
think
lenka
can
help
me
in
posting
here
the
link
in
the
chat
or
spandana
or
jeremy
or
whatever,
and
that's
it.
The
link
for
the
recording
is
the
same.
A
B
A
Type
it
in
the
chat
yeah,
there
are
plenty
of
jobs
everywhere
and
we
strongly.
We
strongly
believe
that
you
can
do
it
and
we
encourage
you
to
sorry.
D
A
We
will
write
it
afterwards
and
thank
you
have
a
great
weekend.
Everyone
stay
safe,
wear,
masks,
not
grief
because
you
are
in
ecuador,
so
probably
you
don't
but
yeah
and
be
safe
guys.
Thank
you.