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SharePoint Dev Weekly is a weekly video chat in which hosts - Vesa Juvonen (Microsoft), Waldek Mastykarz (Rencore) and typically a special guest from the Community, discuss the latest news and topics around SharePoint engineering and development.
In this episode Vesa and Waldek are joined by Elio Struyf who works as a Solution Architect for Modern Valo Intranet - a product built on top of SharePoint.
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This video chat was recorded on Monday, October 21, 2019.
You can find more details on the discussion and articles in this episode at the SharePoint Dev blog - http://aka.ms/spdev-blog.
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A
Here
we
go,
it
is
SPD
weekly
episode
56,
unless
I'm
completely
mistaken.
Again
it
is
21st
of
October
2000
2019
at
least
I
got
the
year
right.
So
so
we
did
mr.
one
week
because
I
was
in
a
deaf
kitchen.
We
can
talk
about
and
touch
that's
life.
They
were
into
discussion
because
the
idea
was
there
as
well.
So
I
basically
said:
let's
not
record
so
I
do
apologize
on
that.
Even
though
we
try
to
always
record
there
was
awake
regardless,
but
this
one
we
do.
You
have
a
visitor
in
the
room.
A
A
C
C
A
A
C
A
A
So
with
this
around
what
did
I
learn
of
building
a
product
on
the
SharePoint
framework?
So
that's
actually
really
interesting
discussion
topic
as
well.
So
what
are
the
kind
of
top
five
learnings
and
things
to
consider?
And
but
let's,
if
you
don't
mind,
let's
actually
start
with
the
Deaf
kitchen.
Well,
thank
you
were
not
there.
I
was
disappointed.
I!
Wasn't
there
no.
A
A
So
we
we
invite
customers
and
partners
to
a
location,
and
then
we
have
hands-on
labs,
material
and
presentations
and
and
coverage
and
discussions
with
with
the
people
around
what
we're
thinking
on
building
and
then
evaluating
their
inputs
related
on
that,
rather
than
rather
than
coming
up
with
something
and
releasing
it
and
saying
here,
it
is
have
fun
and
then
no
I,
don't
I,
don't
understand
it's
good
to
actually
have
the
dedication
to,
let's
say
further
clarifying
expectations.
What's
missing
getting
the
feedback
and
all
that
yeah.
B
I
guess
that
being
p.m.
or
being
in
that
that
that
role
is
more
important
than
ever,
that
you
validate
your
assumption,
you
have
a
theory,
you
build
something,
but
then,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
you're
not
building
that
for
yourself
you're
building
that
forth
community
at
large
and
before
releasing
anything.
You
want
to
be
sure
that
that's
the
thing
that
people
actually
need
yep.
A
That
is
matching
their
expectations.
People
are
willing
to
accept
that
we
did
that.
This
is
was
like
our
fifth
deaf
kitchen.
Actually,
so
we
did
have
a
first
deaf
kitchen,
like
five
months
before
releasing
or
even
telling
that
she
open
framework
is
coming,
which
is
kind
of
cool.
So
there
was
a
group
of
people
who
knew
that
SharePoint
framework
is
coming
before
the
spring
event
of
2016
I
think
that
yeah
time
flies
when
you're
having
fun
and
then
then
we
then
we
had
a
deaf
kitchen
with
extensions,
a.
A
In
Brussels
second
yeah,
and
then
we
had
a
defecation
around
the
extensions
in
Redmond
again
and
then
I
had
a
defecation
around
the
team's
integration,
and
now
this
one
was
then
a
new
thing.
As
those
who
are
those
who
have
been
following
up
on
what's
happening
in
the
build.
For
example,
we
announced
and
released
a
fluid
framework,
and
we
demonstrated
some
of
the
capabilities
which
is
kind
of
a
it's.
It's
a
real-time
collaboration
platform.
A
So,
basically
you
can
go
off
multiple
things,
not
just
documents,
other
things
as
well,
which
is
kind
of
really
cool
with
the
most,
and
there
can
be
a
back-end
services
connecting
to
the
flow
and
there's
interesting
scenarios.
Behind
of
that,
we
demonstrated
that
in
built
in
the
spring,
I
think
it
was
May
end
of
May.
Someone
like
that
whenever.
A
And
then
we
we
haven't
actually
talked
about
it
too
much,
and
now
this
was
really
around
a
deaf
kitchen
on
what
does
it
mean
that
the
fluid
is
coming?
What
does
manufacture
upon
framework
and
how
do
these
things
work
together?
And
how
do
we
align
the
story
and
we
talked
about
also
the
office
add-ins
being
built
with
SharePoint
framework,
which
is
something
which
we
demoed
on
the
spring
as
well,
and
then
multiple
either
kind
of
a
take
improvements,
unsharpened
framework
side
as
well,
so
Ilya,
if
you
think
about.
A
C
C
C
C
A
A
A
Okay,
so
that's
quickly
on
the
dev
kitchen.
Let's
not
actually
do
our
or
not
too
much
because
I
like
that
it
is
under
NDA,
but
it
was
a
really
great
experience,
good
to
see
people
as
well,
dropping
by
and
and
and
being
I
think
the
photo
attendees
I
know
this
when
I
used
to
be
a
let's
say,
a
normal
attendee
on
these
things.
A
One
of
the
key
values
is
to
have
two
to
three
days
off
and
being
able
to
build
something
outside
of
the
normal
and
time
zones
an
outside
of
the
normal
work,
which
is
really
cool.
So
you
actually
have
a
time
to
concentrate
on
something
new,
which
is
super
rare
nowadays
in
there
they're
really
fast
moving
business
well,.
A
C
B
There
used
to
be
more
the
case
in
the
past,
no
other
ice.
The
the
group
is
so
bad
that
there
are
people
who
are
in
BP,
whom
I've
never
seen
or
met
right
and
that's
even
the
whole
trick
with
MVP.
It's
so
broad
right.
You
can
get
an
MVP
for
writing
a
book
for
doing
a
local
user
group
in
a
place
to
which
I've
never
been
and
as
such
I
would
never
know
about
you
right
and
I
mean
lateral
myself.
A
B
A
A
But
yeah
everybody
seemed
to
love
the
the
thing
and
and
like
I
said
about
like
it
is
really
about
having
that
connectivity
and
then
get
to
know
people
behind
the
scenes
and
having
more
insights
on
on
the
decisions
behind
of
the
design
rather
than
just
turning.
Tutorials
makes
perfect
sense,
and
obviously
it's
super
valuable
fast
as
well,
because
there
are
certain
certain
always
capabilities
and
functionalities
which
were
like
testing
I.
Don't
this
feels
cool.
But
what
are
the
things
for?
B
A
True
as
well
absolute,
but
that's
the
one
of
the
absolutely
the
key
benefits
out
of
or
this
process
for
us
as
well,
but
now
like
for
most
II,
do
you
are
doing
a
conference
sessions
around
your
learnings
on
building
a
product
on
top
of
SharePoint
framework,
a
motoring
experience?
It's
an
and
you
represent
the
Wallow
intranet.
It
is
an
Internet
in
a
box
product
and
I.
A
A
Organic
crawls
and
there
was
a
small
or
a
hiccup
again
there.
Sorry,
there
I
think
we
got
the
main
message:
I
can
translate
whatever
you're
saying
in
English
and
then
that
usually
works,
but
what
it
would
be,
your
kind
of
it
of
five
items
or
things
which
you
you
want
to
cover
in
your
session.
What
are
the
key
learnings
for
on
SharePoint
framework?
What
are
the
things
which?
What
works
and
what
doesn't
work
is
that
stop
talking.
C
B
C
Slower
No
well
with
the
WSB
what
you
had
to
do
with
the
yeah
building
and
is
reset
and
I'm
waiting
for
two
minutes
until
your
VM
was
apparent
running
and
whatever
that's
the
thing
you
don't
have
anymore.
It's
like
in
two
minutes,
you're
already
having
application
running
yeah.
Of
course
you
still
need
to
code
it,
but
you
already
have
a
web
part,
so
it
that
that's
I
think
the
the
biggest
key
takeaway
of
SharePoint
framework
and
modern
development.
These
days,
yeah.
A
Well,
it's
getting
faster
and
faster
in
Windows
as
well,
so
there
has
been
a
lot
of
optimization
over
there
and
and
sure
you
get
you
get
stuff
visible
and
functioning
quite
fast
and
and
by
the
way
Ilya
has
been
also
creating
a
responsible
of
leading
the
work
around
that
reusable
controls
on
this
perfect
side.
So
using
those
controls,
you
actually
get
a
fully
functioning
stuff,
just
a
matter
of
track
and
dropping
control
on
place
and
that's
it
and
then
we're
good
to
go
so,
which.
A
Is
actually
quite
safe,
then
for
other
people
to
use
it
as
well
right
because
you,
you
actually
are
quite
widely
used
platform
and
those
controls
are
supported
by
the
community,
but
if
more
and
more
partners
are
using
them,
then
it's
quite
safe
to
actually
use
them,
and
even
though
there
are
open-source
solutions
which
is
always
the
classic
discussion
as
well
and
I,
think
very
in
a
transition
or
people
accepting
the
fact
that
open
source
is
fine.
It's
it's
fine,
it's
fine,
so
that
was
one
of
the
learnings.
A
C
Yeah
for
me,
you're
building
a
product.
This
is
cool
because
I'm
working
with
the
latest
and
greatest
stuff
like
I,
can
use
SharePoint
framework.
I
can
use
Azure
services.
I
can
connect
them
together
me
as
a
developer.
That's
always
I
wanted
to
do
before
when
I
was
a
consultant.
Come
client
said:
oh
I
wanted
this
kind
of
projects,
and
then
it
was
like
oh
yeah,
it's
on-prem,
or
it's
this
or
that
working
with
all
technology.
Now
you
just
go
with
everything.
What
is
new
for
me?
That's
that's
amazing.
That
makes
my
angel
Chella.
A
C
C
So
these
days
everything
is
built
on
online
and
you
cannot
control
any
updates
anymore.
So
speed
is
actually
the
biggest
issue
for
us,
because
you
need
to
check
what
is
coming
and
each
and
every
tenant
is
a
little
bit
different,
also
with
first
release
or
target
its
release.
You
need
to
test
out
these
things
because
taste
it
can
change
and
yeah
it's
kind
of
impact
like,
for
instance.
A
really
simple
example
is
how
webparts
can
be
modified.
C
In
the
past
is
on
the
hover
panel,
when
you
hover
it
nowadays,
when
you
click
on
the
web
part,
you
see
the
over
panel,
but
these
kind
of
things
yeah.
For
us,
we
have
a
visual
UI
tests
and-
and
we
see
that
during
the
visual
UI
test,
when
the
page
gets
created
and
the
web
part
gets
added
on
it
and
there
it
failed
all
of
a
sudden.
All
our
webparts
couldn't
be
edited,
and
it
was
just
because
we
did
the
click
event
and
not
on
all
the
hover
events
and
not
a
click
event.
C
A
C
A
There's
two
things
actually
on
what
you
were
saying,
which
one
are
actually
jumping.
First,
one
is
that
how
do
you
test
and
what
is
the
recommendations
and
what
is
the
process
for
you
to
test
these
things?
And
the
second
thing
what
you
mentioned:
listen
I
already
forgot
that
one
that
one
nicely
pace
of
change,
Oh
the
basis
yeah
related
on
pace
of
change.
But
you
said
it's
not
that
you
do
not
actually
do
the
manipulation.
A
You
do
you
kind
of
a
play
with
the
given
rules
which
are
given
to
you
and
what's
the
the
is
it
giving
you
then
massive
headache
or
pain,
because
we're
seeing
different
options,
or
else
we're
seeing
people
who
do
even
in
SharePoint,
because
you
can't
do
input
or
manipulation
they
do
they
go
crazy
and
then
that
has
some
implications.
But
how
has
it
impacted
on
on
follows
this
science
and
experiences.
C
It's
a
tough
one
because
yeah
when
something
new
comes
out
yeah,
you
want
to
play
nicely
together
with
SharePoint
and
that's
also
for
us,
because
we
want
to
have
a
good
name
with
Microsoft
as
well,
because
then
you
can
also
promote
our
tool,
but
it's
yeah.
It's
it's
sometimes
very
hard
because
all
of
a
sudden
you
create
UI
and
then
the
next
day
there's
a
new
control
popping
up
like,
for
instance,
the
one
that
you
see
right
now
on
the
page,
it's
with
the
most
useful
information
or
what
is
it
or
recent
information?
C
And
then
I
stopped
talking
again,
so
you
cannot
take
it
away
and
you
need
to
you
need
to
guide
your
end-users
in
order
to
say,
okay.
This
is
what
you
need
to
do,
but
the
problem
is:
if
it's
there
and
you
cannot
take
it
away,
it's
it
conflicts
a
bit
with
the
design
that
we
applied
or
with
the
other
bad
parts
on
the
page.
So
that's
probably
the
hardest
thing
on
the
the
speed.
C
A
That's
that's
one
of
the
let's
say,
however,
I'd
wanted
to
her
things,
because
we're
also
getting
actually
feedback
that
just
to
import
import
on
the
information
shared
within
the
PMP
community
cause
it's
just
like
yeah,
but
but
but
we,
the
stuff,
is
evolving
so
fast
that
it's
it's
easier
to
actually
have
those
kind
of
info
moments
in
every
single
way,
rather
than
than
having
a
really
small
blog
post,
which
is
telling
something
or
or
whatever
so,
but
it
is
hard
balance
of
finding.
How
do
we
explain
the
changes
as
well
and
and
to
be
fair?
A
There's
quite
often,
even
community
finds
something
new,
and
then
we
need
to
jump
on
it
on
the
course
or
or
some
feature
from
somewhere.
A
random
team
is
enabling
and
I
haven't
seen
that
that's
interesting,
because
it
is
such
a
massive
platform
to
be
fair
and
they
say,
even
though
there's
the
control
center
now
in
Microsoft
overly
stuff,
but
it's
still
huge.
Now
we
do
have
two
minutes
before
we
need
to
stop
on
a
hard
stop,
but
quickly
asking
what
what
is
the
the
quick
in
a
1-minute
summary?
C
So
it's
on
the
testing.
Yes,
so
we
have.
If
we,
if
we
push
everything
to
our
environments,
what
we
do
is
we
have
our
manual
testers,
so
they
will
test
the
products
how
it
works
and
so
on,
and
then
we
have
our
visual
UI
test,
which
is
automated.
So
basically,
whenever
we
roll
out
the
feature,
there's
first,
the
manual
tester,
which
is
going
to
run
it,
do
it
a
couple
of
times
or
two:
it
does
it
a
week
from
the
moment
it
sees
that
the
thing
is
stable.
A
That's
a
hard
thing
to
automate
as
well,
because
it's
as
I
it's
definitely
massive
value
for
develop
testers
and
manual
testers
and
test
people.
To
think
true
that
the
scenarios
I'm
sure
you
want
to
automate
as
much
as
possible.
But
it's
a
really
hard
thing
to
manipulate
the
the
click-through
tests
in
a
random
order,
because
also.
B
B
A
A
C
B
A
B
B
Yes,
so
even
on
top
of
that
I
mean
in
in
company
of
our
size,
you
know
you
obviously
do
many
things
right
and
I
am
combining
that
with
a
PM
role,
but
thinking
about
features,
what
do
we
want
to
add?
How
do
we
validate
validate
ideas
that
we
have?
How
do
we
bring
them
to
users?
Verify
that,
basically,
like
building,
is
really
the
easy
part.
Everything
before
building
choosing
the
right
thing
to
build,
and
everything
after
that,
like
shipping
support.
That
is
the
hard
part
building
is
really
the
easy
part.
If
you
like
it.
A
B
B
A
B
A
B
A
So
please,
if
you're
around
on
that
side
of
the
club,
please
go
and
check
it
out
absolutely
now,
let's
actually
move
on
the
different
articles.
So
it's
been
now
two
weeks
since
we
last
time
covered
some
articles,
but
we
can
actually
see
that
there's
quite
a
lot
of
let's
say
events
going
on.
So
there's
this
different
Microsoft,
365,
developer,
boot
games,
there's
conferences,
there's
ignite
coming
and
because
there's
a
small
reduction
of
the
of
the
actual
articles
which
are
getting
published,
which
is
nice,
expect
that
it
is.
That
is
the
time
of
the
year.
A
So
the
SharePoint
has
to
only
User
Profile,
Service
and
you're,
able
to
add
additional
properties
and
attributes
on
the
user
Pro
user
entry
over
there.
And
then
we
were
able
to
use
a
search,
query,
api's
and
then
you're
able
to
see
user
profile
a
be
nice
to
actually
manipulate
and
get
that
information
for
particular
user,
so
really
useful
in
functionality.
A
Now
the
next
article
is
from
Sergey,
quite
nice,
actually
pretty
cool
article
related
on
how
to
create
a
hub
site
structure
visualization
without
any
coding,
and
that
seems
to
be
like
what
can
you
actually
make
it
all
of
this
happening
without
any
coding?
But
it
is
actually
taking
advantage
of
the
power
bi
polar
bear
bit
part
and
power
bi
and
then
using
a
flow
to
get
that
the
information.
So
really.
The
key
here
is
to
Mickelson
post
related
and
how
do
you?
A
How
to
use
the
search
to
detect
the
hub
sites
and
which
other
with
set
asides,
are
associated
to
the
hub
site
and
getting
them
that
information
to
a
SharePoint
list
and
then
exposing
the
shipment
list
as
a
power?
Bi,
dashboard
or
power
bi
wave
part
within
a
port,
also
really
cool
set
up
without
any
code.
And
you
have
a
nice
overview
of
the
architecture
of
your
antenna.
A
The
information
when
you're
presenting
in
presenting
some
data
so
just
as
well
kind
of
a
related
on
the
user
profile
information
you
could
which
the
billing
hat
you
could
actually
decorate
the
user
objects
in
the
craft
with
a
dissertation
on
sort
of
information
and
then
expose
that
true-true,
your
web
parts
or
definitely
call
set
up
from
HHS
as
well.
So
have
a
look
on
that
one
now.
A
This
is
from
a
note
and
more
around
our
apps
gallery
and
truven
by
managed
metadata
and
is
basically
combining
the
management
of
their
service,
which
we
currently
have
in
SharePoint
we're
looking
into
having
that
potentially
in
a
office
365
scale
as
the
metadata
model
cost
office
365.
What's
the
cool
thing
as
well,
more
on
that
and
those
directions
in
ignite
timeframe
within
few
weeks.
A
But
in
here
this
is
really
around
the
fact
that
how
do
we
use
that
metadata
data
in
your
power
apps
implementation
to
limit
as
an
example
or
dynam
present,
the
information
related
on?
What's
what's
in
the
taxonomy
store,
really
cool,
stuff
and
walking
through
how
to
get
access
that
information
and
how
we
to
approach
that
information,
and
how
do
we
present
the
relevant
information,
empower,
apps
or
website
of
the
house?
A
This
one
is
really
nice,
also
from
Robbie
Williams.
This
is
really
around
the
simplicity
of
using
Microsoft
craft
toolkit.
We,
together
with
Europe
on
framework,
so
Microsoft
craft
toolkit,
have
a
sip
had
a
set
of
controls.
We're
gonna
have
a
look
on
those
in
a
second
which
we
can
really
really
really
easily
take
advantage
on
the
SharePoint
framework
implementation.
So,
in
this
case,
as
an
example,
let
me
zoom
in
Rabia
has
implemented
this
application
customizer,
which
has
my
events
or
the
upcoming
events,
functionality
and-
and
this
one
here
is
a
craft
toolkit
control.
A
So
you
don't
actually
have
to
implement
that
the
only
thing
were
to
implement
I
have
to
implement
basically
the
panel
popping
up
under
on
the
page.
So
she
is
her.
Implementation
is
basically
to
have
that.
My
events
button
in
the
header
section
or
both
you
would
probably
want
to
put
on
work
somewhere
else
rather
than
just
above
the
navigation.
But
again
it's
conceptual
demo
on
how
easy
it
is
to
integrate
stuff
and
then
we're
going
to
click
that
one
it
shows
that
panel
and
in
the
panel
we
are
actually
using
the
control.
A
The
few
points
to
understand
here
is
that
when
using
the
craft
toolkit,
you
need
to
grant
the
permissions
which
the
control
are
requesting.
So
fasten
as
an
example
in
this
case,
and
you
need
need
to
get
access
on
the
users
agenda
or
events
inside
of
the
exchange,
and
you
need
to
grant
those
permissions
for
SharePoint
framework
in
general
or
the
solution
which
you
are
using,
but
quickly
looking
into
the
implementation.
It
is
seriously
as
simple
as
this
one
and
that's
the
button
which
we
saw
in
the
application
and
the
application
customizer
in
header
section.
A
Here
we
have
a
panel.
This
is
obviously
a
fabric
panel
and
inside
of
the
panel
we
have
the
agenda
control
and
by
default
it
is
showing
and
events
from
Tamizh
last
calendar
sevens
or
in
this
case,
especially
we're
using
the
deme
calendar
events
list
over
there
and
it's
surrenders
itself
automatically
available.
A
So
really
cool,
just
minimal
set
of
code
and
you're
able
to
implement
course
stuff
together
with
Mike
sort,
the
data
inside
of
Microsoft
crap,
and
if
we
have
a
look
on
this
one,
such
as
the
briefly
and
kind
of
a
check
what's
available
in
the
in
the
Microsoft
graph
toolkit,
so
here's
an
attender
control,
there's
the
person
control.
Obviously,
person
control
is
really
for
showing
the
personal
taste
information.
There's
people
control
as
we're
able
to
present
to
people
information
in
different
ways.
A
A
A
But
that's
it
fold
all
of
the
articles
this
time
and
let
me
actually
close
this
one
as
well,
so
we
did
record
this
article
section
and
before
the
discussion
with
Elia
and
Anna
Baltics,
and
hopefully
we
didn't
overlap
too
much,
but
for
this
week
I'm
basically
closing
up.
It
is
episode.
56
and
like
I
said
it
was
only
me
for
the
article
section
inside
of
the
house.
Ignite
is
closing
in
so
we're
finalizing
our
plans
for
ignite
and
doing
polishing
and
making
decisions
related
on
final
demo.
A
So
there's
a
different
set
of
demos
available
which
we're
gonna
show
making
sure
that
everything
is
working
and
variable
to
play
stuff,
so
really
really
cool
stuff
coming
into
ignites
in
the
Deaf
side
or
in
the
non
deaf
side
of
the
of
the
sharepoint
and
microsoft
themes
and
flow
and
power
up.
So
it's
going
to
be
again
a
really
awesome
conference.
If
you
will
be
there,
you
can
actually
still
register
unless
not
completely
mistaken.
A
We
do
have
a
pre
day
also
for
office,
365,
Microsoft,
365
development
platform,
we're
going
to
talk
about
identity,
micrograph,
SharePoint,
framework
teams,
extensibility
and
adaptive
cards,
so
pretty
cool
setup
for
a
one
day,
and
we
do
have
a
nice
intent.
Let's
say
a
reference
solution,
or
what's
one
of
yours
during
that
day
as
well,
so
hopefully
you
are
able
to
join
us.
That
is
on
it's
taken.
It
is
fourth
third
of
me
to
actually
double-check
this
from
the
calendar.
A
It
is
a
third
of
November
is
the
pre
day
and
then
ignite
starts
on
the
4th
of
November
on
the
Monday,
but
hopefully
we'll
see
you
there
and
we
will
definitely
do
another
SPT
weekly
and
before
the
ignites.
That's
gonna
be
a
episode
57,
but
that's
it
for
this
one
Thank
You
Ilya
for
joining
us
Thank
You
Walter
Kosovo,
even
though
you
had
a
a
time
often
family
prank.
A
You
were
able
to
actually
spend
some
time
with
us
on
the
evening
to
do
the
initial
discussion,
but
thank
you
for
the
for
watching
and
please
give
us
feedback.
What
do
we
need
to
see
what
I
want
to
see
if
something
is
missing
or
something
should
be
covered
or
you
have?
If
you
have
ideas
on
who
would
be
a
crate
visitor?
Please
let
us
know
so
we're
able
to
address
that's
request,
but
that's
it.
Bye,
bye,
see
you
later.