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From YouTube: ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD (7/26/22)
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July 26, 2022 – 5:30 p.m.
OLD BUSINESS
1. PRESENTED BY: Suzanne Black
SUBJECT: Request for approval of walkway, fence and gate for the property located at 511 Martha Street (Cottage Hill).
NEW BUSINESS
2. PRESENTED BY: Collier Neeley
SUBJECT: Request for approval of a fence for the property located at 231 N. Hull Street (North Hull).
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A
Speak
I'll
comment
so
that
the
project
should
be
presented,
but
this
is
not
a
menu
for
personal
grievances.
If
you
hear
a
gavel,
you
are
out
of
order
and
if
you
persist,
you'll
be
removed
from
the
meeting
once
your
request
is
heard
and
the
board's
decision
is
rendered,
you
may
leave
the
meeting.
However,
if
you
have
questions
for
staff,
please
wait
until
after
the
meeting
is
over
to
ask
them
or
you
may
contact
staff
at
the
office
the
following
day
want
public.
Testimony
for
a
particular
item
is
over
and
discussion
has
concluded.
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The
members
of
the
board
will
deliberate
and
render
a
decision.
Members
with
a
personal
or
financial
interest
in
any
request
are
required
to
accuse
themselves
from
voting.
All
Decisions
by
the
architecture.
Review
board
are
final.
Any
person
having
a
request
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
denied
by
the
board
May
appeal
such
denial
to
the
Montgomery
Circuit
Court.
Such
an
appeal
will
be
filed
with
a
circuit
court
within
30
days
after
the
receipt
of
the
notice.
The
final
notice
of
the
of
the
board-
and
we
have
just
a
passel
of
members
present
here
tonight-.
B
C
A
A
Come
in
very
sorry,
John
Hayden,
John
foshee
is
absent.
Hillary
Morgan,
thank
you,
Kenny
Williams
and
Khalia
Bell,
and
the
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
Suzanne
black
with
her
property
on
Martha
Street,
Cottage
Hill,
and
since
she
is
not
here,
we'll
go
on
to
project
number
two
Carter
Neely
and
a
proposed
privacy
fence
at
Old,
Alabama
town
come
describe
your
project
to
us,
sir.
D
E
A
pretty
straightforward
project
we
are
proposing
to
build
a
fence,
a
privacy
fence,
six
foot,
wood
privacy
fence
along
the
property
line
on
the
sorry,
the
south
side
of
the
Young
House
in
Old,
Alabama,
Town,
it'll,
separate
the
young
house
from
the
Gibson
Tire
garage
bays
and
their
parking
back
parking
lot.
This
came
at
a
request
of
the
tenant
after
some
conversations
with
Christy
and
with
Russell
we've
designed
it
so
that
it
will
not.
E
E
G
A
A
C
D
D
If,
if
there
was
more
of
a
definitive
solution
for
the
water,
because
my
biggest
issue
is
the
water
I'm
not
trying
to
move
water
from
One
Foundation
to
the
next
Foundation
I
want
a
solution
for
the
water,
I
was
convinced
by
whatever
she
proposed.
Then
I
would
change
my
mind.
But
at
this
point
I
just
don't
see
that
in
her
solution.
G
Okay,
the
water
was
going
to
be
directed
as
it
is
right
now
it
comes
out
of
the
back
and
it
bundles
down
at
the
end
of
the
sidewalk
and
has
a
straight
shot
to
the
the
street.
What
I
was
trying
to
do
was
to
pretty
much
barricade
it
in
between
the
house
and
the
get
the
fence
putting
planting
monkey
grass
along
the
side,
the
border
of
the
fence
and
the
house
that
would
keep
keep
the
water
contained
going.
That
way.
G
A
A
G
G
A
G
And
I
chose
monkey
grass
because,
as
you
see,
my
cast
irons
have
pretty
much
taken
over.
They
will
have
to
be
cut
from
left
to
right
to
do
that.
So
we're
not
using
that
because
it
would
just
eat
up
too
much
of
walking
space
right
so
that
monkey
grass
would
contain
it
without
getting
into
the
walkway.
Okay.
B
So
I
I'm
I
think
I've
missed
a
step
somewhere
in
here,
because
I'm
unclear
I
was
unclear
without
a
plan
or
anything
of
what
your
project
is.
So
what
I'm
hearing
is
your
house
is
adjacent
to
this
property?
It's
on
the
right
side
of
that
picture.
Yes,
yes,
mine's
on
the
right
and-
and
so
the
yard
goes
like
this
going
down
so.
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B
B
B
B
E
E
E
A
A
E
A
E
G
A
A
B
B
B
A
B
A
All
right,
let
me
see
if
I
can
make
a
synopsis
of
this.
We
are
talking
about
bringing
a
line
of
monkey
grass
from
the
post.
That's
at
the
back
of
the
house.
You'll
have
new
steps
coming
down
and
then
you'll
have
pig,
gravel
crushed.
River
Revel
is
a
better
idea
because
Pete
gravel,
you
know
you
do
this.
A
When
you
try
to
walk
and
crushed
River
gravel
doesn't
doesn't
slide,
doesn't
slide
you
as
much
will
not
put
you
down
on
your
knees
as
quickly
as
that
will,
but
some
sort
of
crushed
stone
and
then
you're
going
to
put
a
four
foot
tall
fence
and
you're
going
to
return
the
fence
into
the
house,
and
it
will
have
a
gate.
Is
that
correct,
correct
all
right?
Does
everybody
understand
that
online
yeah
all
right?
H
I,
don't
know
why
we
exactly
need
the
right
eye,
wrought
iron
fence
there,
but
if
the
erosion
is
the
problem,
I
think
that's
something
that
needs
to
be
discussed
for
the
entire
area,
not
just
part
of
it,
because
the
erosion
will
just
move
from
the
side
of
her
house
to
basically
decide
if
her
walkway
so
I.
Don't
think
this
is
a
proper
solution
for
just
the
erosion
problem.
E
H
Monkey
grass
won't
stop
because
it's
a
slope
area
and
so
from
our
backyard.
It's
still
going
to
wash
out
your
your
So.
Eventually
we're
going
to
come
back
here
and
you're
going
to
have
to
repair
it
because
it's
going
to
fall
over
I've
seen
other
instances
in
the
neighborhood,
where
you
have
a
situation
like
that
and
the
the
walkway
started
to
fall
over
the
brick
where
the
paper
is
starting
to
fall
over
because
of
the
erosion.
Okay,.
G
H
H
F
This
is
not
the
place
for
you
two
to
get
together
and
try
to
figure
this
out.
I
agree,
I'm,
not
trying
to
be
short
with
you.
It's
good
to
see
folks
trying
to
work
things
out.
I
certainly
do
encourage
that,
but
this
board's
job
is
to
vote
on
the
project
as
it's
presented
and
if
you
all
have
any
changes
or
modifications
that
y'all
can
agree
upon.
That's
great
so.
D
F
H
H
If
there's
an
and
if
there's
an
issue,
I
know
she's
stated
issues
about
us
parking
too
far
to
the
right,
and
we
are
glad
to
make
sure
that
anyone
who
drives
in
that
parking
spot
moves
as
far
to
the
left
as
possible
to
allow
her
her
lawn
guy
to
go
up
and
down
to
the
back
gate.
I
think,
they're
and
I
I
know
we're
not
going
to
fix
this
issue
now,
but
I
know
there's
other
Solutions.
H
B
I
I,
don't
think
it's
the
board
position
to
tell
whether
or
not
it's
a
driveway
for
this
or
that
I
think
if
there
is
a
an
issue
with
the
driveway
that
is
or
isn't
a
driveway
that
that's
got
to
come
from
some
other
group
that
that's
not
our
position.
We're
not
allowed
to
really
say
You
must
use
this
as
a
driveway
or
not
a
driveway
I
mean
I.
Think
that's
more
litigious
on
this
thing.
B
H
B
And-
and
we
agree,
that's
why
we
changed
the
position
of
the
gate
to
start
from
way
at
the
front
portion
where
she's
got
it
here
to
being
aligned
to
the
the
side
of
the
house,
which
is
what
we
do
with
pretty
much
every
fence
that
comes
it.
This
way
is
the
fences
are
typically
aligned
to
the
house
proper,
not
in
front
not
to
a
drive
not
to
a
planting.
B
It
usually
goes
to
the
house
proper,
which
is,
we've
asked
her
to
push
it
back,
which
is
a
good
what
10
feet,
or
so
yeah,
at
least
so
so
that
as
our
function
would
end
at
it
is
a
you
know,
an
acceptable
form
to
do
a
four
foot
fence
in
this
area
on
your
property
and
go
to
this
point
now,
if
you
have
a
problem
with
it
being
in
what
may
or
may
not
be
a
driveway,
it'd
have
to
go
through
some
other
means.
Not
not
this
body.
B
F
B
F
A
E
B
C
That's
a
foot
and
a
half,
but
it's
just
hard,
not
I,
haven't
looked
at
this
one
and
in
person.
So
it's
hard
to
tell
and
then
looking
at
the
the
roof
line.
I
think
a
lot
of
water
is
coming
off
the
roof.
That's
going
to
drain
onto
the
the
sidewalk,
slash
Mica
grass
area
and
it's
hard
to
tell
exactly
where
that's
going
to
hit.
But
that's
that's
going
to
be
one
of
the
major
contributors
to
the
erosion,
in
my
opinion.
What's
coming
off
that
roof
and
and
it's
going
to
land
in
that
area,.