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A
B
You
very
much
this
is
our
meeting
procedures
that
I
will
read
for
the
convenience
of
our
television
audience
and
to
those
persons
who
are
with
us
this
afternoon.
Please
advise
all
members
who
come
to
the
podium
to
speak
directly
into
the
microphone.
We
record
the
minutes
for
legal
purposes,
and
this
is
the
only
way
to
pick
up
the
audio.
The
Historic
Preservation
Commission
is
a
nine-member
board
appointed
by
the
City
Council
and
serve
on
a
voluntary
basis
without
compensation.
B
Our
procedure
for
conducting
business
is
the
petitioner
for
each
item
will
be
asked
to
come
forward
state
your
name
for
the
record
and
present
his
or
her
request.
The
bulwa
ask
any
question
board
members
may
have
once
public
testimony
and
discussion
for
a
particular
item
has
concluded.
The
members
of
the
board
will
deliberate
and
will
rent
it's
decisions.
Members
with
a
personal
or
financial
interests
in
any
request
are
required
to
recuse
themselves
from
voting
I.
B
Would
like
to
take
this
opportunity,
and
we've
already
had
the
members
of
the
Historic
Preservation
Commission
to
introduce
themselves
and
I
would
like
to
take
this
opportunity
to
introduce
our
planning
Control
staff
as
Christie
Anderson
to
my
right
and
the
audience
left
and
Miss
Paula
Richardson
to
my
left
and
the
audience
right
and
we've
just
like
to
thank
them,
as
we
do
every
meeting
for
taking
time
out
to
be
with
us
as
they
do
each
second
Tuesday
of
the
month.
A
quorum
of
the
Historic
Preservation
Commission
is
five
members
of
the
nine-member
board.
B
B
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
motion
carried
opposed
to
our
members
and
to
our
audience.
You
have
before
you
or
copy
of
our
agenda
for
this
afternoon,
and
we
like
to
begin
with
item
number
one.
We've
just
conducted
our
adoption
of
actions
of
the
March
13
meeting
we
going
to
to
aid,
and
we
like
to
ask
miss
Carol
keen
for
our
fifty
year
of
preservation
and
Montgomery
and
upcoming
presentation,
our
may
awards
program
and
then
whatever
else
she
and
her
committee
would
like
to
present
to
us
this
afternoon.
C
C
That
good,
okay,
with
the
passage
of
the
National
Preservation
Act
in
1966
Montgomery
as
a
city,
stepped
to
the
plate,
also
and
in
1967,
initiated
city
ordinances,
which
are
the
mainstay
of
what
we
actually
operate
today.
The
city
ordinance
established
the
Historic
Preservation
Commission,
as
well
as
the
Architectural
Review
Board.
The
early
preservationist
model
Howard
was
the
director
of
the
Alabama
Department
of
Archives
in
history
and
James.
Loeb
was
the
founding
father
of
landmarks
foundation
and
together
they
were
very
instrumental
in
getting
Montgomery
on
track
very
early
on
preservation,
wise
okay.
C
Next
slide,
they
went
to
the
city
of
Montgomery
and
persuaded
them
to
purchase
this
property
in
1968.
The
ornament
Shaw
house
on
North
Hall
Street,
it's
a
diamond
in
the
rough,
but
they
knew
exactly
what
it
was.
It
was
an
1850s
town
house,
one
of
the
very
few
examples
of
urban
architect
that
our
urban
architectural
style
that
was
existing
in
the
state
about
city
of
Montgomery,
and
if
you
see
in
the
upper
right-hand
corner,
it
actually
had
its
original
outbuildings
with
it
as
well.
C
C
Next
and
from
that
actually
began
the
underpinnings
of
what
would
then
become
North
Hall
streets,
historic
district
or
now
old,
Alabama
town.
Next,
the
house
next
door
was
in
its
original
site.
The
Campbell
cottage
is
also
an
1850
structure.
Montgomery
was
reeling
from
what
was
happening
to
other
cities
all
around
the
country.
Only
though
we
had
a
double
whammy
with
to
interstate
systems,
bisect
units
I-65
and
I
85
were
tearing
up
our
Center
City,
as
well
as
the
renewal
movement
which
the
retail
spaces
had
gone
to.
C
C
C
And
then
we
began
purchase
property
all
along
North,
Hall
Street
and
began
to
start
moving
in
other
structures
that
were
going
down
around
town
as
well.
Davis
cook
is
an
1850s
Italianate
structure
also
that
was
up
close
to
the
top
of
the
goal
weight
Hill
at
Five
Points,
a
few
images
are
before
and
then
next.
C
C
C
And
today
it
has
a
new
life
on
the
agenda
of
a
new
hotel,
I
believe
the
boutique
hotel,
which
will
be
the
2018
and
2019
bison
head
for
this
particular
one.
One
of
the
odd
things
the
train
said
yet
go
ahead:
train
Jets,
good
train
traffic
was
dying
in
Montgomery
and
the
station
and
the
shed
itself
were
sitting
there,
but
the
shed
itself
is
what
is
such
a
remarkable
piece
of
architecture
it
at
that
particular
point
time
had
a
real
noted
type
of
construction
such
as
the
one
you
would
find
on
the
Eiffel
Tower
arm.
C
It
was
this
very
innovative
at
that
particular
point.
It
was
built
in
the
late
19th
century
and
iris
had
fallen
into
a
great
disarray.
The
structure
itself.
At
that
point
in
time
the
shed
belonged
to
the
city
of
Montgomery
had
purchased
the
shed
and
the
train
the
land
below
continued
to
be
owned
by
the
train
companies,
which
I
think
was
CSX
landmarks
foundation,
go
ahead.
C
They
then
did
a
large
fundraiser
and
paid
the
hundred
thousand
dollars
back
next,
but
the
station
itself
continued
to
sit
there
in
disarray,
no
train
traffic,
nothing
was
happening
with
it
in
a
private
individual
step
to
the
plate,
Jim
Wilson
and
in
the
mid-1980s
restore
the
train
station
itself.
Next,.
A
C
Barns
house
is
a
really
unusual
house
hitting
up
hidden
up
underneath
all
that
Victorian
adornment.
It
actually
was
sitting
right
on
the
edge
of
the
interstate
down
court
Street,
it's
one
of
Montgomery's,
very
earliest
houses,
1834,
and
it
was
moved
to
my
old
Alabama
town
because
of
the
encroachments
upon
it.
Next,
it
actually
had
been
turned
around
at
some
point
in
its
life
the
other
way,
so
we
turned
it
back
around
with
the
front
facing
the
street
and
it's
a
really
interesting
example
of
late
federal,
the
late
federal
architectural
style
here
in
Montgomery.
Next.
C
A
C
C
It's
not
the
best,
the
best
or
most
best
practice
of
historic
preservation,
but
if
not
the
these
structures
would
no
longer
exist,
it
was
then
next
one
it
was
in
reassembled
at
odhh,
Alabama
town,
the
city
of
Montgomery
stepped
to
the
plate
in
1983,
with
the
restoration
of
the
National
Guard
Armory
on
Madison
Avenue,
with
a
really
good
adaptive
restoration
into
what
is
still
the
armory
learning
learning
Arts
Center.
Next.
C
C
The
Fifth
Avenue
of
Montgomery
or
South
Perry
Street
runs
right
there
by
High
Street
toward
the
interstate
was
filled
with
lovely
mansions,
like
this
Kennedy
Sims
house
was
built
in
the
1890s,
and
it's
documented
in
1894
up
in
the
right
hand,
corner
in
something
called
the
artworks
of
Montgomery,
which
was
a
large
portfolio
of
early
photographs
of
early
photography
of
later
houses.
Next,
both
Kennedy
Sims
and
the
house
of
mayors
on
South
Perry
Street
found
private
individuals
to
restore
them
and
became
income
producing
commercial
properties
next
also
going
downtown
on
Dexter
Avenue.
C
The
central
bank,
better
known
as
the
client's
building,
has
a
very
rich
history
from
on
the
antebellum
period.
It
was
the
Central
Bank
of
Alabama
as
well,
and
next
he
got
a
restoration
job
in
1985
as
well
as
well
as
the
little
mansard
roof
behind
it.
There's
a
top
that
little
building
that
stuck
is
still
back
there
behind
it
as
well.
Next
private
individuals
within
the
law,
firm
of
box
Bingham
on
Dexter
Avenue
at
Court
square,
we
step
to
the
plate
on
this
one.
C
This
is
the
winter
building,
where
the
telegram
to
fire
on
Fort
Sumter
was
actually
sent
out
from
and
has
a
very
rich
history.
It's
kind
of
a
neat
piece
of
Italianate
commercial
architecture
from
the
antebellum
period
here
in
Montgomery
next,
another
Lowndes,
County
house
and
all
now
know
young
house
better
known
today,
as
a
young
house
restaurant.
C
It's
little
of
vernacular
saddlebag
structure
on
the
back
came
with
it.
You
know
in
Lowndes
County
it
had
been
a
cook
house
and
it
came
with
the
structure
when
it
moved
to
Montgomery
next
in
the
mid
1970s.
All
of
this
was
happening
all
over
in
what
were
older
residential
houses
that
were
being
turned
commercial
but
lower,
Commerce,
Street,
Commerce
Street.
The
last
block
right
by
the
tunnel
was
pretty
in
danger
too,
as
you
can
see
from
this
particular
structure.
C
Ruston
steakley
took
one
corner
and
Jackson
Thornton
took
the
north
corner
there
on
North
Commerce
Street.
Mr.
Loeb
took
this
little
building
there
on
the
right,
and
then
they
began
to
work
on
that.
These
are
all
tax
credit
projects.
In
other
words,
they
were
monitored
by
the
Secretary
of
Interior
through
the
Alabama
Historical
Commission
and
are
very
quality
restorations
that
sort
of
hold
their
value
to
this
day.
Next.
C
C
We
have
knock
who
had
done
central
bank
or
the
Cline
building
on
Dexter
Avenue.
He
also
built
this
house
knocked
off
or
himself
on
South
Perry
Street
right
before
you
get
to
First
Baptist
Church
in
the
1850s
and
to
this
day
is
probably
the
grandest
man
that
still
remains
in
the
city
of
Montgomery
in
the
right
hand,
corner
it's
documented
in
1907,
in
the
main
screen
its
1894
documentation
in
the
artworks
of
Montgomery
as
well.
C
D
C
Okay,
we
even
went
further
afield.
Landmarks
did
went
further
felled
to
Tuskegee
this
particular
structure.
The
Thompson
mansion
was
built
in
the
1850s
in
downtown
Tuskegee,
but
it
had
been
documented,
dismantled
and
taken
to
bound
Georgia
and
was
living
in
a
barn
and
the
chamber.
The
Montgomery
Chamber
of
Commerce
was
interested
in
a
structure
for
his
the
city
information
center.
This
has
four
sides
to
it.
Four
front
sides
to
it:
it
had
four
grand
sides
to
it,
so
it
would
look.
Nice
on
a
corner
would
be
a
very
welcoming
piece
for
this.
C
Just
to
Montgomery
to
see
we
had
seen
it
earlier
and
sort
of
just
sat
and
waited,
and
eventually
the
owner
who
had
dismantled.
It
said
if
you
want
him
coming
over
to
Georgia
and
get
it
so
we
took
so
he
took
cotton
trailers
to
bound
Georgia
and
loaded
all
the
pieces
of
this
magnificent
structure
and
brought
them
back
to
old,
Alabama
town
next
and
put
them
back
together
again.
He
had
very
dark
very
well
documented
the
whole
thing.
C
There
were
thousands
of
photographs,
thousands
of
drawings
every
piece
was
numbered,
but
that
makes
it
even
a
little
bit
harder
because
you
got
to
put
the
right
piece
back
into
the
right
spot,
and
so
the
piece
came
back.
Two
pieces
came
back
to
Montgomery.
This
was
also
a
Habs
house,
historic
American
buildings
survey
and
had
been
documented
in
1934
in
Tuskegee,
with
the
WPA
and
CCC
programs
that
were
happening,
and
so
there
was
a
lot
of
early
documentation
to
the
structure
as
well.
C
C
It
actually
had
moved,
been
moved
itself
back
around
the
turn
of
the
century
and
was
sitting
right
on
the
cusp
of
the
corner
of
South
Hall
and
Adams
Avenue
next,
but
he'd
also
been
federalized.
At
some
point,
we
were
going
to
bring
it
back
to
its
original
1850s
Italianate,
but
in
the
meantime
it
had
to
take
a
ride
down
the
hill.
You
can
seize
on
the
trailers
and
trucks
and
he
just
happens
to
be
passing
the
capital
during
a
Civil
War
Reenactment.
C
If
I
die
next
and
today
he
sits
at
the
top
of
North
Hall
Street.
With
this
original
adornment.
Now
we
had
early
photographs
that
could
tell
us
you
know
what
it
had
looked
like
originally
as
well
as
when
it's
it's
secured
down
from
move.
You
can
there's
always
lots
of
silhouettes
and
shadows
that
tell
you
where
things
were
missing
too
so.
D
C
This
is
probably
the
biggest
feat
of
restoration
in
Montgomery.
However,
the
five
picket
house
was
located
behind
the
federal
courthouse
right
there
on
Court
Street
at
Clayton
Street.
It
had
been
a
house
up
until
the
turn
of
the
century
when
it
became
the
barns
school
for
boys,
and
it
also
was
built
very
early
in
1837.
C
It
was
a
three-story
brick
structure
and
the
Montgomery
County
Historical
Society
was
given
the
house
by
the
federal
government
with
you
know,
had
to
come
off
the
site
with
the
expansion
of
the
federal
courthouse.
So
next
it
moved
a
thousand
feet
in
about
72
hours
very
slowly.
You
can
even
see
it
move,
but
this
is
probably
one
of
the
largest
preservation
feats
that
dick
has
ever
or
will
ever
take
place
in
the
city
of
Montgomery,
with
winches
on
both
ends
of
it.
C
Pulling
about
the
court
Street
Hill
right
there
by
the
hilltop
I
mean
by
the
that
Court
Street
at
Clayton
straight
next
and
now
it
sits
up
on
Court,
Street
and
Mildred
and
restored
to
its
Italianate
1830s
original.
Look
next.
C
Southern
Poverty
Law
also
went
in
on
that
Adams
Street.
Now
that's
Washington
Washington
at
home,
and
there
were
several
historic
properties
sitting
there
when
the
new
office
building
was
built
that
had
to
be
moved
to
make
way
for
that.
Cottage
Hill
took
high
particulate
one
of
the
particular
structures
that
Dorsey
has
next
and
nursing
house
in
its
cook
house
came
down
to
old,
Alabama
town
they're,
both
auntie
bone
structures
and
lived
down
there.
Now
next.
C
There
we
go:
there's
Dorsey,
okay,
next.
C
But
Wilbanks
the
little
banks
houses
another,
pretty
amazing
feat
as
well.
This
particular
structure
was
lost
amid
car
companies
mechanic
establishments,
it
became
the
state
state
mail
room
at
one
point:
the
state
filling
station
at
motor
pool
at
one
point,
and
it
was
just
adjacent
to
the
North
Hall
Street
historic
district.
C
It
was
very
well
documented
before
anything
came
off
of
it
because,
as
you
can
see,
there's
all
kinds
of
warehouses
there
added
on
to
it
in
all
different
directions.
Even
today,
the
gas
pump,
the
gas
tanks
still
underneath
the
lawn
itself
next
and
it's
income-producing
as
well.
Now
it
goes
back
to
about
1855.
C
It
was
actually
part
of
the
original
ornament
complex.
They
sold
off
a
piece
of
property
to
mr.
noble
who
built
this
particular
structure
about
1855,
and
he
can
look
at
his
back
door
and
see
the
front
steps
of
the
Capitol
at
that
particular
point
in
time,
because
Montgomery
has
just
become
the
Capitol
about
10
years
before
so
you
were
seeing
structures
like
this
pop
up
all
over
next.
C
This
is
the
third
US.
This
is
actually
the
second
now
that
actually,
this
is
the
third.
This
is
the
third
crash.
Building
that
you
know,
somebody
didn't
put
something
in
the
right
place.
This
is
a
brand
new
building
that
collapsed
in
1929
and,
of
course,
in
the
right
hand,
corner.
That
was
the
structure
that
that
we
know
today.
Next,
that
is
under
restoration,
I
must
complete,
I,
think
and
some
of
the
specs
that
were
going
into
it
as
well:
I'm
Dexter
Avenue.
C
Next,
we
haven't
even
touched
on
the
historic
districts
that
are
that
are
actually
coming
and
what
has
happened
to
them
in
the
past
50
years?
That's
just
a
list
of
the
ones!
That's
for
another
time.
When
we
talk
about
the
history
of
our
historic
districts,
these
particular
districts,
some
of
them
are
locally
designated,
some
of
our
national
registers
and
all
armed
display
really
rich
pieces
of
Montgomery's
architecture
anywhere
from
the
late
19th
century
to
the
early
20th
century.
C
So
this
is
just
somewhat
of
a
sampling
of
what
can
be
in
the
next
presentation
that
we
do
next,
it's
just
a
little
before
and
after
50
years,
at
old,
Alabama
town
to
the
right
is
the
blocks
that
were
there
to.
The
left,
of
course,
is
what's
there
now,
but
north
of
downtown
were
full
of
blocks
like
these
bait
shops
used
car
places
or
no
working
car
places
as
well.
Next
and
that's
for
you,
dr.
Bailey,
that's
Miss
Neely
moving
a
truck
moving
a
house.
C
We
like
we
like
to
end
everything
with
that,
because
without
a
lot
of
her
research
and
knowledge,
you
know
we
would
not
be
able
to
follow
through
on
the
restorations
to
prove
the
significance.
Architectural
ian
has,
historically
of
all
the
structures
that
have
been
restored
here
in
Montgomery
in
the
past
50
years.
Thank
you.
You
got
any
questions.
B
E
F
F
C
C
Do
why
it
was
a
very
significant,
mid
20th
century
historian.
He
was
the
director
of
archives
in
history
for
a
while,
he
died
very
young
too.
He
died
in
and
I
believe,
1979
or
1980.
He
was
right
after
right
after
Congress
enact
the
National
Preservation
Act
of
1966.
It
establishes
this
position
called
the
state
historic
preservation
officer,
better
known
as
the
ship
Oh
in
each
state.
C
Each
state
has
this
official
and
in
Alabama
now
it
usually
runs
with
the
director
of
the
Alabama
Historical
Commission,
but
earlier
it
ran
with
Milo
at
Department
of
Archives
in
history.
So
he
was
our
state's
first
ship,
oh
and
was
too
involved
in
preservation
all
over
the
state
as
well,
and
all
the
different
projects
that
were
popping
up.
A
B
Did
anyone
recognize
some
of
these
old
pictures
that
took
you
back
yes
in
terms
of
what
Montgomery
looked
like
a
couple
of
decades
ago,
Wilbanks
tire
company
and
some
of
the
others
that
was
really
interesting
to
see
some
of
those
old
photographs,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
want
to
point
out
is
that
I
immediately
noticed
when
I
was
listening
to
the
narration,
that
I
will
narrate
has
a
passion
for
what
she
was
talking
about.
Yes,.
D
B
B
So
we
can
make
certain
that
we
have
inform
our
audience
from
a
very
up-close
perspective
of
what's
going
on
with
the
Murphy
house.
So
as
we
leave
that
discussion,
there's
anything
else
is
popped
in
anyone's
mind
that
you
want
to
ask
about
the
presentation.
Okay,
thank
you.
So
very
much
and
now
I
will
mayor
Wars
program.
G
C
B
G
D
D
Carolyn
I
both
talked
to
the
people
at
Charlie's,
trophies
about
pricing
and
so
forth,
but
they
need
to
know
exactly
what
we
want
before.
They
can
really
quote
us
prices,
so
in
speaking
to
Christy,
it
was
like
this
is
what
we
currently
have
and
then
the
other
you
put
some
goodies
in
here.
Okay,
the
other
are
some
ideas
of
what
we
could
have
and.
G
I
also
included
the
image
of
the
landmarks
foundation
in
old,
Alabama
town
because,
as
you
saw
in
Carole's
presentation,
mr.
Loeb
was
involved
with
the
creation
of
the
historic
development,
Commission
and
landmarks
foundation,
and
we
both
use
the
same
fountain
logo.
And
if
we
need
to
do
a
new
sign,
I
think
it's
time
to
rebrand
and
have
something
different
from
from
what
landmarks
is
using.
These.
D
Were
ideas
of
what
we
should
use
for
a
logo
because
they're
distinctly
Montgomery
doesn't
mean
we're
limited
to
that
by
any
stretch
of
the
imagination,
this
is
City
Hall
the
columns
on
it.
Looking
very
much
like
Franklin,
Tennessee
Christie
brought
this
to
my
attention
like
Franklin,
Tennessee's
and
obviously
another
thought
that
is
written
on
here
is:
do
we
want
to
have
a
standard
sign
that
no
matter
if
you
live
in
Cloverdale
or
Capitol
Heights
or
you're,
a
building
downtown
you're
a
Montgomery,
Historic,
Preservation,
Commission,
historic
building?
D
D
G
And
they
do
it.
I
had
spoken
to
her
several
years
ago
and
they
can
do
a
slightly
smaller
version
of
a
metal
sign
like
we
have
where
they
can
actually
like
print
photos
on
metal
and
I
brought
in
the
sample.
I.
Think
most
of
you
were
not
on
the
board
at
that
time,
there's
supposed
to
be
UV
resistant,
so.
G
G
A
F
F
G
It's
possible
that
kind
of
gets
to
the
question
of
our
our
budget
is
due
soon
to
get
any
benefit
in
a
price
break,
say
we
standardized
it
and
you
just
get
something
that
says
historic:
preservation,
commission,
historic
building
in
Montgomery
whatever,
and
you
don't
personalize
it.
You
don't
put
the
date
of
construction
on
it
and
we
have
to
buy
a
hundred
of
them
I'm,
not
sure
we
can
buy
a
hundred
bronze
and
a
hundred
resin.
It
may
be
that
that
we
give
someone
permission
to
go
and
get
it
on
their
own.
G
G
To
consider
because,
as
as
we
did,
the
the
the
signs
is
we
the
system
that
had
been
set
up
before
we
ordered
like
a
hundred,
we
had
to
prepay
for
a
hundred
and
as
people
came
in,
they
did
the
lettering
with
the
district
or
the
house
name
and
the
date
of
construction,
which
you
know
not
a
big
deal.
They
were
vinyl
letters
that
they
applied
to
a
metal
sign.
G
You
know
the
ability
to
do
the
so,
and
it
was
a
three
color
screening
process.
So
that's
why
they
did
so
many
at
once.
I,
don't
know
that
it
would
be
such
an
issue
to
be
able
to
actually
print
on
metal
which
they
can
do.
They
draw
these
trophies
as
far
as
personalization
goes
I'm,
not
sure
about
the
the
caste
type.
D
A
F
A
D
A
G
G
If
the
price
is
right-
and
one
thing
we
talked
about
that,
we
can
do
you
know-
we've
sent
out
postcards
to
the
addresses
in
the
district
saying
this
property
is
located
in
the
historic
district.
We
can
do
the
same
type
of
thing
with
a
brochure
or
a
postcard
when
we
roll
out
a
new
sign
program
and
let
everybody
know
and
really
push
you
know
promoting.
You
know
this
is
what
we're
doing
now
get
one
before
your
neighbor
does:
okay,.
B
G
A
D
D
F
F
F
A
B
A
B
We
just
want
to
ensure
that
we
are
offering
the
public
something
that
has
longevity
is
attractive,
the
settlor
cetera
and
that
I'm
going
to
commend
the
body
for
taking
this
proactive
posture
and
making
certain
that
we
do
in
fact
have
that
kind
of
sand
available.
All
right.
So
that's
how
revamping
our
historic
sign
program
report
and
just
a
game
want
to
thank
all
of
those
people
sending
keeping
Carole,
King
and
Brian
man
for
the
excellent
positions
you're.
Taking
on
that,
let's
go
back
to
the
awards
program.
For
me,.
C
A
C
A
C
B
Now
to
the
entire
Commission,
you
notice
under
item
C
committee
reports,
if
you
do
not
see
your
name
on
a
given
committee,
and
you
would
like
to
take
this
opportunity
to
enlist
your
participation,
we
will
accept
that
now
for
any
committee,
you
see
any
committee
and
you
see
your
name
missing
and
you
would
like
to
become
a
part
of
that
committee.
Let's
take
care
of
that
now.
First
of
all,
let's
start
with
the
application
review
and
selection
committee
is
anyone
who
would
like
to
be
on
that
committee?
B
B
A
B
A
A
G
G
He's
taping
for
her
InFocus
program
on
Troy,
Public,
Radio
invitations.
You
have
to
decide
how
you
want
to
do
those.
We
do
have
some
fold
over
cards
that
that
have
the
city
M
on
it
that
we
got
for
thank-you
notes.
We
might
be
able
to
print
on
those
and
in
mail
invitations
I've
got
a
list
of
all
the
neighborhood
contacts
and
city
councilmen
and
anyone
else
he
and
we
sent
it
to
the
ARB
last
year
and
anybody
else
and
of
course
all
of
the
nominees
get
an
invitation
as
well.
C
G
F
A
G
B
Okay,
all
right
is
there
anyone
else
who
would
like
to
join
the
PR
media
or
invitations
committee.
Anyone
who's
named
appear
right
now,
who'd
like
to
join
that
committee.
Anyone
all
right
is
any
question.
Anyone
has
about
that
committee
any
question,
so
everyone
is
clear
on
when
our
wars
program
will
be
held
for
the
month
of
May
in
our
next
meeting
here
where
we
are
meeting
today.
That's
what
the
program
will
be
held
all
right.
Last
year
the
place
was
packed
television
stations,
representative
media
and
our
guests
and
everything
it
was
a
wonderful
occasion.
B
So
I
just
want
to
give
you
a
feel
for
what
to
expect
when
we
reassemble
here
next
month.
The
reception
is
anyone
first
of
all
whose
name
is
not
there
and
you
would
like
to
become
a
part
of
the
reception
committee.
Anyone
whose
name
is
not
data
and
you
like
to
become
a
part
of
that
reception
committee
and.
G
A
B
A
F
E
F
F
G
A
H
A
G
A
E
B
Me
say
to
the
commissioners
other
commissioners:
we
would
appreciate
you
arrived
around
five
o'clock
no
later
than
five
o'clock
on
that
day,
because
we
move
chairs
around
and
move
tables
around
and
those
kind
of
things
in
terms
of
getting
everything
in
place.
I
will
be
here
around
4:30
no
later
than
4:45,
so
you
can
come
no
later
than
five
o'clock
we're
in
good
shape.
We.
G
C
C
G
A
B
D
B
A
G
So
this
is
kind
of
like
finding
new
disciples
and
apostles
and
all
that
good
stuff
to
go
out
and
preach
the
gospel
of
preservation
and
not
not
in
the
sense
of
the
historical
aspect
of
it,
but
just
to
kind
of
give
people
a
better
sense
of
place.
The
importance
of
place,
Montgomery's,
history,
Montgomery
architecture,
will
talk
about
the
rules
and
regulations
and
how
that's
structured
from
starting
with
the
preservation
act
and
working
down
to
the
local
local
code.
G
We
talked
about
adding
an
architectural
survey
component
to
it
possibly
doing
a
building
tour,
and
that
could
be
something
that
is
under
renovation
or
possibly
a
building.
That's
got
issues
where
we
might
want
to
have
a
code
official
talk
about
some
of
the
the
issues
that
you
might
face
with
a
building
in
that
particular
condition.
G
A
A
G
A
good
place
to
end
up
and
then
wrap
graduation
into
May
14th
I
had
a
preliminary
discussion
with
Michael
Pan
horst
at
landmarks
about
partnering
with
us,
because
they've
got
a
great
space
that
would
work
as
a
classroom.
He
suggested
it
would
be
better
if
it
was
done
during
the
day.
My
feeling
is
that
days
of
ladies
doing
preservation
have
passed
us
by
and
that's
not
the
audience
we
need
to
reach.
It
needs
to
be
after
five
o'clock,
so
I
have
talked
to
the
director
at
the
armory.
G
G
A
G
It
kind
of
depends
on
the
space,
so
I
mean
if
anyone
has
suggestions
for
a
space
that
might
work.
Let
me
know,
but
I
kind
of
initially
thought
that
maybe
the
first
year
we
would
cap
it
at
20,
so
we
could
allow
any
of
the
board
members
who
went
from
either
board
who
wants
to
attend
that
would
get
us
up
into
the
range
of
38
I
can
guarantee
that
not
every
board
member,
certainly
my
IRB
members
I,
don't
know
that
they
would
come,
but
part
part
of
that
will
be
determined
by
space.
You.
E
G
G
There
are
interesting
things
and
interesting
people
here
that
you
may
go
away,
but
it's
also
a
place
you
might
want
to
come
back
from
so
he's
trying
to
kind
of
broaden
their
horizon,
so
I
think
I
think
the
folks
at
btw
would
be
very
receptive
and
I've
also
been
working
with
folks
at
brew
tech.
So
I
think
that
we
might
get
some
some
interest
there
can.
E
E
E
E
A
G
A
G
G
F
D
E
C
A
A
E
E
E
Oh
yeah,
absolutely
definitely
so.
E
No
athlete
I
ban,
West
I,
wonder
I
mean
he's
his
schedules.
Pretty
heavy,
but
he's
also
kind
of
you
know
heading
towards
the
end.
His
query,
we
might
bills
say:
hey
come
on,
you
know
one
last
buy
your
beer.
No,
but
I
mean
really.
You
know:
MTSU
Center
for
Historic
Preservation.
The
southeast
is
like
known
as
sort
of
a
I.
Don't
know
what
the
term
anot
institution,
but
their
their.
D
F
One
time
I
participated
in
a
leadership
class
up
in
my
former
stomping
ground
at
Elmore
County,
and
every
time
we
had
a
class
we
met
in
a
different
place.
I
just
started
thinking
about
places
that
I
feel
would
open
their
doors
to
such
a
class
for
no
charge.
Mine
I
mean
I.
Would
imagine
that
I
know
over
where
I
live,
Huntington
would
downtown
I,
don't
know
if
there's
anything
all
that
historical,
but
as
a
member
of
the
State
Bar
I
can
use
our
facility
for
nothing.
F
They
have
a
very
large
meeting
room
where
the
board
of
bar
commissioners
meets
and
I
believe
they
have
a
parking
lot
there
beside
the
building,
but
there
would
be
other
opportunities
like
that.
I
would
imagine
there
are
some
beautiful
historic
churches
that
might
be
a
easy
place
to
meet.
Then.
Last
month
we
had
the
city
of
st.
Jude
present.
They
might
have
a
classroom
or
facility
and
I
understand.
That
would
be
quite
the
sight
to
see
and.
F
F
G
D
G
Realtor
continuing
education
classes
we
for
several
years
we
did
binders
of
maps
and
materials
and
then
we
put
everything
on
a
flash
drive
but
I
think
what
we
can
do
is
I
have
been
told.
We
can
set
up
a
special
project
fund.
So
if
we
do
charge
admission
to
help
cover
the
cost
we
can
buy
food,
you
know
provide
the
food
for
that
last
picnic
cover
materials.
G
E
A
D
A
G
C
A
C
A
G
So
just
something
to
think
about
about
what
what's
a
manageable
limit
and
like
I
said
I
was
thinking.
Maybe
we
cap
it
at
20,
open
it
up
to
everyone
on
both
boards
and
if
anybody
else
and
if
someone
deaf
says
I'm,
definitely
not
coming,
then
that
means
we've
got
one
more
slot
so
that
that
may
put
us
at
the
35
to
38
range.
That's
a
good
size!
That's
a
good
size!
What.
G
G
A
G
G
G
Is
also,
we
have
also
sent
wording
to
the
mayor's
office
and,
right
now
it
looks
like
I
think
we've
asked
them
to
adopt
a
resolution,
May
1,
which
is
the
first
council
meeting
in
May,
which
I
don't
really
see
any
need
for
them
to
do
it
at
an
April
meeting,
since
it
is
made
their
first
meetings
May
first
and
as
the
last
I
heard
mayor
was
fine
with
the
language,
so
that
should
move
forward
so
I
figured.
Maybe
y'all
should
have
talked
to
resolution.
C
B
B
B
H
Are
you
yes,
I
am
not
officially
on
the
agenda.
Last
week,
I
said:
oh
I
want
to
reach
out
and
then
I
realize
next
month,
as
your
awards
month
and
June
seemed
far
away
so
I
I
know
it's
very
late.
I
wanted
to
introduce
myself
Louis
cor,
tell
with
the
Development
Department
and
we're
working
on
a
I
just
wanted
to
invite
you
all
to
call
me
or
email
me.
Follow-Up
I
know
dr.
H
Bailey
and
Brian
from
old,
Cloverdale
and
Carol,
but
I,
don't
know
a
lot
of
you
and
I
wanted
to
introduce
myself
and
let
you
know
you're
welcome
to
reach
out
one
of
the
things
that
were
working
on
right
now
and
been
working
on
for
four
years.
Largely
with
Marianne
Neely
is
at
the
old
Montgomery
Fair
we're
building
a
park
a
park,
it's
sort
of
it's
a
really
small
park.
I,
sometimes
call
it
a
pocket
park.
H
It's
it's
really
a
pretty
unique
space,
but
it's
starting
to
get
closer
to
being
finished
and
people
are
seeing
it
now
and
that's
why,
even
though,
we've
been
working
on
it
for
quite
a
while
I
want
to
invite
anyone
to
ask
questions
or
call
me
reach
out
we're
hoping
to
have
it
open
either
in
the
end
of
May
or
early
June,
that's
sort
of
our
latest
goal
and
I
had
been
working
with
Marianne
in
the
fall.
We
had
been
talking
about,
adding
it
to
dr.
H
Bailey
and
hers
walking
tour
that
they
would
stop
in
this
location.
You
know
went
the
next
time
that
happens.
Let's
knock
on
wood
that
that
that
that
does
happen
and
start
explaining
that
what
the
monk
where
the
Montgomery
Fair
was
in
the
Dexter
area,
there
was
a
twenty
nine
Dexter.
There
was
sometimes
it's
called
the
annex
or
the
arcade
that
part
of
it
had
suffered
some
fire
damage
with
the
main
part
of
the
building
at
Court
Street.
But
the
city
ended
up
acquiring
that
front
part
of
twenty
nine
Dexter
in
about
2010.
H
Gordon
Davis
looked
at
the
building.
They
didn't
think
that
we
could
save
it.
We
had.
We
had
hoped
that
we
could
go
through
it,
keep
the
front
part
and
then
open
it
up
into
a
sort
of
an
egress
that
would
help
the
crest
building
and
the
old
where
the
drugstore
was
at
25,
but
they
said
that
it
needed
to
come
down,
and
that
was
pretty
upsetting
to
folks.
So
we
did.
We
called
a
group
called
the
historic
structures
committee
together,
Christy
advisin
I,
don't
know
that
they
don't
exist
anymore.
H
James,
fuller,
Jeff,
Benton,
Marion,
Babb,
Carol
Carol.
If
you
were
part
of
that
group
at
that
time,
Bob
gamble
and
we
talked
to
them
about
you
know
this
building
doesn't
look
like.
We
can
save
the
building
the
29
Dexter
portion
of
the
fair,
but
we
may
be
able
to
we'd
like
to
put
a
facade
back
up.
So
it's
not
a
tooth
and
empty
tooth.
Like
you,
we
kind
of
have
on
the
other
side
of
Dexter,
and
so
we
talked
about
what
that
might
look
like
and
Marianne
Neely
I
love
this
one
of
my
favorite
stories.
H
She
said
you
know:
Rosa
Parks
worked
in
that
building,
and
so
that's
the
era
I
don't
mean
to
say
it,
but
it
was.
It
was
a
very
quiet
movies,
she's,
quiet
and
everybody
listened
to
her.
The
way
they
always
do.
She
worked
in
that
building,
and
so
that
is
the
era
of
the
facade
that
you
should
bring
back,
and
so
we
were
able
to
salvage
significant.
So
this
isn't
a
building
preservation
project,
it's
a
park
project,
but
we
with
significant
salvage
of
materials.
H
We
were
able
to
salvage
historic,
vitro
light
tiles,
and
it
relates,
is
a
pigmented
structural,
glass
and
I
literally
created
a
spreadsheet
with
rows
and
columns
and
labeled
with
a
piece
of
tape,
every
single
one
of
those
tiles
and
we
saved
about
90%
of
the
tiles,
the
the
blue,
the
upper
part
of
the
tiles
and
then
80
percent
of
the
glass
block.
The
glass
block
is
also
1940s
art,
deco
glass
block,
it's
12
by
12,
it's
actually
very
large
and
we
saved
80
of
the
114
of
those
glass
block.
H
So
that
is
the
the
glass
block
is
back
up.
We
finalized
I
mean
this
has
been
years.
We
had
to
wait
till
the
crest
building
was
done
until
25
was
done
because
they've
been
using.
That
way
is
access.
They
needed
it
in
order
to
do
their
projects,
so
we
had
to
wait
and
we
had
significant
drainage
issues
that
a
lot
of
the
project
was
doing
drainage
and
it's
a
deck,
because
you
cannot
put
lateral
pressure
on
the
adjacent
basements.
So
it's
a
really
unique
architectural
project,
even
though
it
looks
simple
and
I
hope.
H
H
We
had
gotten
the
name
of
the
there's,
only
one
guy
left,
who
does
this
Tim
Dunn
of
it
real
light,
specialist
out
of
st.
Louis
Missouri
and
the
his
Alabama
historic
Commission
had
Historical
Commission
had
given
us
his
name.
We
reached
out
he's
quite
a
character
and
he'll
be
around
and
so
he's
putting
this
really
old
material
use
using
stone
to
trim
it.
H
So
it's
a
really
unique,
interesting
facade
and
we
hope
that
we
can
start
some
conversation
really
just
in
this
about
what
it
was
there,
we're
working
on
brochure,
we're
working
on
historic
information
and
we're
working
on
getting
people.
You
know
adding
it
to
tours.
So
we're
really
just
at
the
start
of
this
now
and
I
wanted
to
just
let
me
let
you
know
who
I
was
if
you
have
a
question
reach
out
and
then
future.
If
you
want
me
to
come
back
on
a
on
a
structured
agenda,
I'm
happy
to
do
that.
Any.
D
D
H
Light,
it's
a
glass
tile,
it's
it's
structural,
it's
very
heavy,
its
I
I
mean
I,
think
it's
been
pressed,
and
so
it's
a
heavy
pigment
and
the
tiles
are
like
two
by
two
they're
huge
and
they
weigh
about
five
pounds
per
per
square
foot.
They're,
very
heavy.
That's
the
best
I
can
do.
We
have
a
president
there's
a
preservation.
Brief
I
can
send
you.
A
H
Current
versions,
they
call
Carrara
but
I
guess,
there's
they're
slightly
different
and
they
don't
make
it
in
the
US
anymore.
It's
part
of
why
there's
only
one
guy
and
he's
going
around
salvaging
from
other
buildings,
so
that
that
we
were
able
to
put
back
our
own
vitter
light
and
he's
putting
it
back
where
it
was.
You
know,
because
I
had
labeled
it
so
there
and
the
pieces
taper
still
there.
It's
it's
a
pretty
it's
unique
I!
Guess
in
the
30s
and
40s
there's
a
lot
of
modern,
like
Main
streets
used
it
and
theaters.
H
There's
a
theater
in
Alabama
that
used
it
I
discovered
on
the
Foshee
building
across
this
cross,
the
way
near
cuccos.
There
was
some
peach
fitrah
light
and
we
spied
it
and
we
knew
that
they
wanted
to
take
it
down,
but
we
were
able
to
have
the
specialist
come
and
and
a
tree
salvage
it.
So
they
aren't
going
to
reuse
it.
But
at
least
we
have
salvaged
the
material,
so
it
didn't
get
broken.
A
D
H
A
H
A
H
H
Oh
yes,
absolutely
and
that's
where
Mary
and
Neely
has
been
she's
been
collecting
and
sending
and
reviewing
editing
it's
only
until
she,
you
know
a
couple
months
ago
that
went
quiet,
but
we've
got
a
lot
of
photos.
The
other
thing
that
has
happened
very
recently
is
that
the
Buffett
foundation
about
a
couple
years
ago
had
had
uncovered
an
archive
I'm
sure.
Dr.
Bailey
knows
this
of
materials
from
Detroit
of
mrs.
H
parks
and
they
sent
them
all
to
the
Library
of
Congress,
and
so
the
Library
of
Congress
has,
within
the
last
year
started
releasing
some
of
these
materials
and
one
of
them.
One
of
the
things
we
found
is
an
eight
page
letter
written
on
Montgomery
Fair,
stationery
letter
to
a
friend
by
Rosa
Parks,
and
it
is
amazing
she
talks
about
how
employees
were
treated
in
the
Montgomery
Fair.
It
talks
about
the
bus
segregation,
it
it
random
things
about
her
job
as
a
seamstress
that
she
worked
on
men's
clothing.
H
You
know,
there's
just
it's
an
amazing
letter,
I'm
happy
to
send
the
link
out
and
we're
we
just
you
know
these
are
fairly
new
materials
and
since
before
we
started
work
on
the
project,
but
her
script
is
lovely
and
so
we're
thinking
of
ways.
How
can
we,
you
know,
incorporate
this
into
art
and
other
you
know
really
get
creative.
We
lost
the
building,
but
I
think
we
can
create
a
space
that
honors
some
of
these
salvaged
materials
and
hopefully
honors
mrs.
parks.