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HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
APRIL 12, 2022
I. Approval of Actions from the March 8, 2022, Meeting
II. Mapco update
III. Sign Committee Report for Spring 2022
1. Melissa Bailey
2. James Long
3. Carole King
IV. Awards update: No submissions received.
A
And
preservation
and
enhancement
of
local,
historic,
architectural,
archaeological
and
ecstatic
heritage
found
in
the
city
through
the
maintenance
of
the
distinctive
character
of
the
city's
historic
districts
and
through
the
promotion
and
enhancement
of
the
city's
historic
and
aesthetic
attraction
to
tourists.
And
visitors
like
to
say
again
good
afternoon
to
everybody
and
I'd
like
for
our
other
commissioners
to
introduce
themselves.
And
this
evening.
We'll
start
from
my
right
and
the
audience
left.
A
And
to
the
persons
who
are
in
our
audience,
if
you
come
before
the
microphone
and
to
our
other
commissioners,
also
would
like
to
just
encourage
you
to
speak
directly
into
the
mic.
If
you
have
any
comments,
questions
or
whatever,
but
to
speak
directly
into
the
mic
to
our
other
commissioners,
you
have
in
your
package
the
minutes
of
the
previous
meeting.
C
A
E
E
A
E
D
B
A
F
Who
said
he
understood
there
was
a
delay
in
setting
up
a
meeting
with
mapco,
and
I
told
him
the
delay
was
mapco,
so
he
is
trying
to
facilitate
that
discussion
at
this
point.
So
I
I
finally
got
dates
that
my
board
members
were
available
and
emailed
him
this
afternoon,
and
so
that's
that's
where
it
stands.
A
F
F
F
The
the
for
me,
the
positive
in
it,
is
that
when
a
petitioner
says
well,
if,
if
we
don't
get
this,
the
the
landowner
is
likely
to
see
the
city-
and
I
said
well
and
if
they
do
get
it,
the
neighborhood's
ready
to
see
the
city
so
one
way
or
the
other
the
city's
going
to
be
sued
over
this.
So
it's
not
a
the
the
big
bad
wolf
of
you
know
a
corporation.
F
I
don't
think,
has
the
upper
hand
necessarily
in
this,
because
the
neighborhood's
ready
to
fight
back
and
and
stand
their
ground
in
the
other
neighborhoods,
as
you
all
saw
at
one
of
our
kind
of
town
hall.
Discussions
understand
that
there
are.
There
are
wider
implications
of
this
as
well.
So
I'm
I'm
very
I'm
very
proud
of
our
people,
for
banding,
together
and
and
and
wanting
an
outsider,
to
follow
the
rules,
just
like
the
rest
of
them
have
to
every
day.
F
A
B
B
B
They
had
added
a
parking
pad,
but
it's
not
a
permanent
piece
of
concrete
and
it's
not
horribly
visually
intrusive.
So
then
the
other.
The
third
sign
we
had
was
basically
for
a
district
sign
to
be
placed
in
the
middle
of
south
capitol
parkway
to
replacing
another
an
existing
sign.
So
I
guess
the
committee
recommends
that
all
three
properties,
two
properties
and
the
district
be
granted
permission
to
ex
to
purchase
new
signs.
B
D
With
the
committee's
recommendations,
but
I
just
wanted
to
point
out-
let
me
see
here
on
the
1230
westmoreland
property.
So
if
you
flip
to
the
page
where
it
lists
by
year
who
the
owners
are
you'll
notice
that
the
secretary
of
paragon
press
owned
it
for
a
number
of
years,
paragon
press
eventually
became
herf
jones
and
we
have
the
herff
jones
collection
of
the
montgomery
county
archives.
So
that's
just
a
little
connection
and
if
you'd
like
to
see
the
collection
we
have
it.
D
A
F
A
F
F
Well,
if
you'd
only
do
x,
we'll
give
you
the
sign
and
I'm
not
suggesting
that
here,
but
you
might
suggest
that
you
know
to
to
enhance
a
more
residential
feel
for
the
property
that
you
know,
perhaps
a
low
hedge
or
something
to
soften
the
appearance
of
the
gravel
would
be
appropriate
or
been
pulling
it
back
away
from
the
sidewalk.
So
there's
a
separation
between
the
the
sidewalk
and
the
parking
area.
So
you
can,
you
can
recommend,
and
that
could
be
part
of
the
okay
letter.
C
F
F
C
A
F
F
F
So
that
means
because
the
signs
have
approved
unless
something
blows
up,
we
may
not
need
to
meet
next
month
because
approving
the
signed
applications
for
the
june
meeting
was.
The
thing
we
had
to
do
in
may
has
generally
been
reserved
for
awards,
which
we
don't
have
so
now.
If
we
have
a
meeting
next
week
that
dictates
otherwise,
we
may
need
to
meet
in
may,
but
so
we
that
that
I
would
say
that
that
one's
iffy
right
now.
B
I
think
dr
bailey,
everybody
has
a
flyer
about
the
historic
preservation
forum
that
we're
sponsoring
in
may,
so
that
can
sort
of
take
the
place
of
kind
of
a
meeting.
It's
thursday
may
the
19th
and
it'll
be
down
at
landmarks,
and
we've
invited
some
community
preservationists
to
come
in
and
we'll
have
a
panel
and
we're
just
going
to
talk
about.
You
know.
B
You
know
what
historic
preservation
in
the
in
the
neighborhoods,
basically
okay,
how
to
promote
it,
how
to
keep
it
going
kind
of
how
to
inspire
people
so
mark
your
calendars
for
that
and
then
you
know
we'll
be
sending
out
more
things
as
as
as
we
go
along,
but
we
wanted
to
make
sure
also
tomorrow
night.
The
preservation
leadership
seminar
is
going
really
well.
B
It
was
we're
over
capacity,
30
plus,
but
tomorrow
night
we
will
have
dr
howard
robinson
from
asu
and
he's
speaking
about
the
development
of
montgomery's
african
amer
american
communities,
and
we
heard
him
a
couple
of
months
ago.
Do
it
up
at
the
cleveland
avenue?
That's
not
the
name
of
the
library
anymore.
It
was
real,
really
fascinating,
and
so
we
asked
him
to
do
this.
So
he
does
a
really
good
job.
So
you
know
if
anybody
wants
to
sneak
in
the
back
and
hear
dr
robinson
tomorrow
at
5
30.
C
C
The
sims
building
that
they're
designating,
I
think
I
called
miss
king,
I'm
starting
to
give
tours
there
like
taking
people
there,
because
it's
connected
to
the
monument
which,
by
the
way,
we're
opening
our
grand
opening
is
may
8th.
So
I
would
love
for
all
of
you
all
to
come,
so
I,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
what
I'm
sharing
with
them
is
factual,
and
so
I
called
about
the
building
to
make
sure
it
is
the
building.
B
B
Great,
I
got
I've
got
a
pile
of
information
for
you,
there's
a
little
bit
of
there's
a
little
bit
of
maybe
not
certain
uncertainty
about
that.
Okay-
and
I,
like
I
said
I
I
know
marianne
was
very
upset
when
those
two
buildings
came
down
because
this
the
research
they
did
for
this,
which
includes
this,
is
29
31
and
33
south
perry
street.
Just
behind
what
is
now
the
well
it's
a
post
office,
but
I
can't
think
of
the
name
of
the
corner
stamp.
B
Yeah
right,
I
wanted
to
say,
aspire
but
yeah,
but
there
they
allude
in
here
that
it
was
in
that
building
and
there's
actually
a
photograph
that
I
have
a
copy
of
here,
for
you,
too,
that
shows
the
buildings
that
are
no
longer
there
as
being
his
offices,
there's
other
the
other
montgomery
historian.
He
alludes
in
the
1930s
that
dr
sims's
office
was
behind
dr
hill's.
What
is
now
dr
hills,
but
of
course
dr
hills
is
more
of
a
late
19th
century
spot.
B
B
B
Not
that
one,
it
doesn't
look
like
that,
one!
That's
there!
It
doesn't.
I
mean
plus,
because
also
that's
a
late
19th
century
building
built
in
what
nineteen,
eighty,
no
eighteen,
eighties,
eighteen,
eighteen
1880s
and
he
purchased
his
spot
in
1845
and
then
sold
it
in
1853,
which
is
pretty
consistent
with
his
biography
and
notes
and
everything
else,
and
that's
what
these
that's,
what
these
these
deed
deed
books
are
talking
about
too.
So
it's
just
to
figure
out,
which
is
lot
number
nine
and
which
is
lot
number
ten.
That's.
B
B
F
B
C
B
F
F
A
F
F
F
B
A
Let
us
thank
miss
paula,
richardson,
I'm
sorry,
mrs
paula
wade
and
christie
anderson
city
of
montgomery
for
coming
out
this
afternoon
and
our
other
commissioners,
and
we
appreciate
your
sparing
some
of
your
time
with
us
and
to
mr
mike
mann,
who
handles
all
of
the
controls
for
us
that
being
no
further
business
is
about
adjourned.
Thank
you.