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A
And
answer
any
question
of
the
planning:
commission
groups
are
requested
to
select
spokesman
to
express
the
group's
concern
because
each
side
will
be
allowed
10
minutes
to
speak.
Plats
rezoning,
revised
master
plans
and
street
renaming
require
a
public
hearing,
after
which
the
planning
commission
will
deliberate
and
render
its
decision
plan.
Commission
members
with
a
personal
or
financial
interest
in
any
petitioner's
request
are
required
to
recuse
themselves.
A
Have
we
got
any
changes
at
all
tommy?
No,
okay,
let's
go
over
the
minutes.
Does
anybody
have
a
I've
got
a
couple
on
item
number?
Seven.
A
If
I
remember
correctly,
the
motion
was
to
deny
was
made
by
mr
reeves.
Is
that
not
correct
sir?
All
right
and
the
second
was
by
mr
reed
and
the
vote
was
all
the
all
the
all
the
eyes
that
that
you
have
were
correct,
but
the
nays
were
both
obses
abstained.
A
A
Oh
thomas,
I'm
sorry
we
didn't
approve.
Could
we
approve
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
as
amended?
Is
there
a
motion?
Is
there
second.
D
A
E
Oh,
as
you
know,
this
has
been
delayed
so
that
the
pedalways
could
try
to
reason
a
little
bit
with
some
of
the
neighbors,
and
this
is
what
we
think
is
best
for
all
concerned.
E
You
know
some
of
this
property
is
present
in
his
own
b2
and
it
could
be
in
a
convenience
store
put
up
at
any
time
legally,
but
he
wants
all
of
it
to
be
p
g
h,
35
wants
to
put
only
six
structures
out
there
and
to
me
it'll
be
a
plus
in
a
community.
That's
just
that
area
is
just
growing
weeds
and
snakes
right
now,
so
we
would
appreciate
your
affirmative
on
the
rezoning.
G
Have
me
I
had
a
meeting,
but
it
didn't
go
too
well.
They
you
know,
for
us,
I've
been
in
the
community
56
years.
I've
been
there
all
my
life
working
all
my
life,
they
buy
land,
and
so
I
can
do
the
work.
Then,
when
I
come
to
do
the
work,
they
complain
but
ain't,
nothing
being
done
so
I
I
went
to
the
meeting
to
try
to
to
work
it
out,
but
they
didn't
want
to
work
it
out
because
it
started
out
with
duplex.
G
E
A
D
I
Hello,
my
name
is
great
roberts.
I
am
a
president
of
the
north,
montgomery
neighborhood
alliance
and
on
behalf
of
the
residents
of
madison
park
community
residing
on
motley
drive,
fuller
road
and
old
wetanka
highway.
We
would
like
to
express
opposition
to
the
proposed
rezoning
of
property
located
on
motley
drive
and
all
we
talked
to
highway.
I
A
Mr
roberts,
it's
I
promise
you
it's
the
it's
the
microphone,
it's
not
you!
So
if
you
don't
mind
just
speaking
out
loud
and
into
it,
we
would
appreciate.
I
It
thank
you,
there's
overwhelming
community
preference
for
single-family
housing
only
that
we
met
with
mr
petty
william
july
to
19.
this
this.
This
rezoning
issue
actually
started
back
in
may
and
it
was
the
first
week
of
july
before
mr
pettaway
came
out
to
and
actually
tried
to
talk
to,
the
residents
on
the
streets
in
madison
on
motley
drive.
I
I
talked
to
him
on
approximately
the
first
week
of
july
in
my
front
yard,
mr
pettyway.
I
I
We
were
surprised
because,
just
a
week
before
we
met
with
him,
he
gave
us
a
copy
of
a
completely
different
proposal.
You'll
see
that
picture
of
the
house
and
the
proposal
I
gave
you
right
before
the
survey
is
completely
completely
different
for
a
three
or
four
house
unit
that
he
was
talking
about
and
when
we
met
with
him
and
it
changed
to
six,
we
asked
him
what
had
happened.
I
I
F
I
I
The
effects
are
rezoning,
they're
going
to
have
just
going
to
affect
the
entire
neighborhood
once
you
start
resulting
part
of
it.
It's
going
to
open
up
the
whole
neighborhood
for
rezoning
and
I'm
not
sure
that
the
neighborhood
has
not
had
a
a
discussion
of
neighborhood-wide
discussion
about
something
as
important
as
this
neighborhood
stability
and
ownership
concerns
was.
Another
was
another
issue
that
we
were
concerned
about.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
mr
pedoway
is
gonna
control,
this
property,
that
it
would
not
be
someone
else.
I
He
won't
turn
around
and
just
sell
that
property
within
a
year
or
so
the
way
he
has
those
houses
all
grouped
together,
six
houses
in
a
0.95
acre
lot.
I
That's
that's
just
a
little
too
congested
for
most
everybody
again,
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
north
montgomery
neighborhood
alliance,
those
neighborhoods
of
sheldon
heights,
king
hill,
chisholm
madison
park
park,
town
rosewood
and
king
hill.
I
think
I
got
everybody.
A
J
Name
is
robert
taylor
iii.
I
grew
up
in
madison
park
and
we
still
have
family
property
there
and
just
two
doors
down
from
where
the
development
will
be.
We
operated
a
charitable
organization
for
some
10
years
there,
the
old
madison
park,
school
building
and
we've
been
instrumental
in
getting
it
now
owned
by
the
city.
So
we
expect
to
have
activities
out
there.
Community
center
et
cetera,
I'm
going
to
not
going
to
speak
to
the
engineering
aspects
of
this.
J
J
J
J
I
think
if
there
are
some
issues
with
how
much
it
needs
to
be
this,
that
or
the
other,
I
think
that
can
be
worked
out,
but
I
certainly
think
that
we
should
be
very
much
optimistic
when
someone
wants
to
invest
in
the
community,
because,
except
for
mr
pedoway,
I
don't
know
of
anyone
else.
That's
doing
that
and
I
just
think
new
construction
with
people
that's
going
to
have
pride
in
being
able
to
move
into
some
new
stuff
is
going
to
have
a
positive
effect
on
the
community.
J
In
fact,
I
would
hope
it
would
affect
some
of
the
near
properties.
Nearby
properties
that
have
been
abandoned
and
folks
have
walked
away
from.
So
I'm
in
favor
of
whatever
is
going
to
be
progressive,
and
I
think
mr
pettway
needs
to
be
commended
for
making
this
kind
of
investment
in
a
community
that
otherwise
is
sort
of
falling
to
the
wayside.
A
J
A
Mr,
can
I
ask
you
one
more
question,
please,
sir,
he
he
mentioned
another
situation
that
is
created
a
lot
that
really
causes
some
some
problems.
Do
you
have
title
to
this
property?
Have
you
closed
this
property,
you
own?
It.
A
No,
I
I
understand,
I
mean
the
problem
that
a
lot
of
times
occurs
in
something
like
this
is,
and
especially
with
the
property
that
you
were
talking
about.
Being
around
is
there's
so
many
errors,
and
you
can't
ever
get
get
title
to
it,
but
you've
got
a
clear
title
and
you
could
you
could
build
on
it
right
right
right
as
soon
as
you
could
get
it
right.
That's
right
all
right,
sir!
Thank
you.
F
I
have
one
more
question,
one
one
question
for
you:
when
you,
when
you
build
the
when
you
build
the
the
patio
garden
house,
are
you
going
to
lease
them?
Are
you
going
to
sell
them
they're
going
to
be
leased.
K
G
G
A
G
Well,
I've
been
there
all
my
life,
yes,
sir,
so
I
ain't
going
now.
I've
been
there
56
years
yesterday
and
ever
since
I
was
nine
years
old,
I've
been
I've
been
a
leader
in
the
neighborhood.
A
lot
of
people
came
in
the
neighborhood,
they
did
good,
but
they
ran
off
that
nobody
never
came
back
to
do
that,
see
what
I'm
saying
and
I've
been
in
this
neighborhood
all
the
time,
seeing
all
the
the
broke
out
houses
nobody's
doing
that.
G
You
know
what
I'm
saying
so
now,
I'm
at
a
point
now,
where
I'm
gonna
invest
back
in
the
neighborhood.
I
own
in
this
neighborhood
now
show
you
how
bad
them
got
the
last
20
years.
I
don't
accumulate
overnight
in
this
neighborhood,
because
nobody
won't
do
that
with
me.
So
I'm
invested
in
this
neighborhood,
I'm
not
I'm
not
running
off
man,
and
they
know
me
when
I
tell
them
something.
I'm
a
man
of
my
word.
I
tell
them
that's
what
I'm
gonna
do.
K
K
We
want
to
see
progressive
new
construction
in
our
neighborhood
when
it's
a
good
thing.
When
that
happens,
you
know
they're
revitalizing.
What
is
it
on
gray's
avenue
in
montgomery
they
revitalize
in
that
area
and,
like
mr
taylor
said,
our
neighborhood
is
old
people
out
there
that
neighborhood
is
dying.
So
if
you
bring
new
construction
in
housing,
you're
going
to
bring
in
new
people,
new
people
is
going
to
mean
more
for
us
more
people
to
vote
more
things
to
do
we're
trying
to
revitalize
our
neighborhood.
K
We
we
have
been
petitioning
with
the
city
to
get
us
a
school
turned
into
a
community
center,
which
was
is
on
the
mr
carr
called
me
not
too
long
ago
and
told
me
that
that's
the
engineers
are
ready
and
coming
out
there
to
assess
and
see
what
they
have
to
do.
We're
trying
to
get
sewer
for
not
on
flood,
not
the
drive
but
everywhere
out
there
and
that's
in
the
works,
so
we're
trying
to
be
a
progressive
neighborhood.
K
And
what
mr
pedoway
is
doing
would
only
help
and
aid
that,
and
we
are
glad
to
see
that
somebody
wants
to
invest
in
madison
park
and
he
is
he
lives
there
himself.
So
the
concerns
about
who's
going
to
live
there
and
out
there
who
would
be
more
concerned
than
him
being.
That
is
his
property,
and
he
also
is
a
resident
out
there.
I'm
sure
he
would
vet
anybody
very
well
that
comes
out
there.
So
we
are
the
majority
of
the
people
in
madison
park.
K
A
whole
lot
of
the
residents
are
in
favor
for
new
construction.
Now
there
are
yes,
there
are
some
that
are
against
it,
but
a
lot
of
people
are
against
change
anytime,
and
I
think
this
is
a
young
man
and
he
needs
to
be
able
to
help
us
with
this
community,
because
you
know
we're
all
going
to
pass
and
leave
this
here
and
for
selling
his
property.
I
wouldn't
sell
it
either.
I
got
property
out
there.
Besides
my
home
and
they're,
not
building
any
more
dirt,
they
ain't
making
no
money.
K
H
H
I
From
my
neighbors
once
they
build
it
up,
the
water's
gonna
have
to
drain
off
onto
their
property
or
possibly
even
to
the
remotely
drive
the
streets.
Is
it
coming.
H
F
Sir,
before
you
sit
down
one
question:
yes,
sir,
some
of
some
of
the
people
that
did
the
survey
were
for
war
against
the
duplex.
Now
that
it's
not
going
to
be
a
duplex
and
it's
just
garden.
Homes
like
that
would
would
any
of
their
opinions,
change.
I
Yeah
we
redid,
we
actually
redid
the
survey.
We
didn't
have
a
good
response.
There
were
13
13
people
who
were
against
it,
and
two
people
were
four
with
restrictions.
I
I
One
was
the
number
of
homes
they
wanted
less
than
six
homes,
but
they
were
amenable
to
to
multiple
homes,
but
they
wanted
less
than
six
and
the
others
were
about
drainage.
F
A
G
C
E
Yeah
we
would,
we
would
like
to
plant
it
because
that's
part
of
the
development
as
we
work
on
the
plans
for
drainage
and
other
stuff
through
the
engineering
department.
So
we
would
appreciate
your
approval
of
the
planning,
and
course,
all
this
anything
we
do
is
going
to
be
subject
to
the
final
approval
of
the
council
on
the
zoning.
A
A
A
C
E
Never
got
planted
in
the
past
and
we
proposed
to
bring
it
in.
You
can't
do
any
development.
Unless
you
got
it
padded
full
city,
then
we
may
have
to
ask
for
some
variances.
We
don't
know
everything.
We're
gonna
want
to
do
out
there
so,
but
there'll
be
no
more
than
one
structure
on
it,
and
hopefully
we
can
work
it
where,
with
a
couple
of
variances,
we
can
get
a
structure
on
it,
but
we
asked
your
approval
to
plan
it
get
it
of
record,
so
it
can
be
worked
with.
H
E
H
F
I
like
to
ask
mr
smith
or
somebody
in
the
office
about
the
the
remarks
this
plan
is
not
in
compliance
with
the
zoning
ordinance
and
subdivision
regulations
for
the
district
due
to
the
lot
being
substandard
in
width
and
required
a
lot
area.
A
F
F
And-
and
you
want
this
done
for
the
tiny
house.
F
A
D
D
A
A
Frank,
if
you
don't
mind,
just
just
present
what
you've
what
you
got
and
what
you're
trying
to
do.
That's
all.
M
M
M
I
believe
there
and
lot
one
was
originally
on
the
other
side
of
the
new
extension
in
meeting
with
aldot
aldot
was
going
to
require
well
they're,
still
making
me
put
in
a
northbound
d-cell
coming
in
southbound
left
turn
going
in
northbound
axel
coming
out,
but
they
were
going
to
make
me
come
in
that
new
hyundai
crossing
way
and
go
about
400
feet
to
turn
into
the
lot
being
on
the
north
side,
because
you
would
have
to
cross
over
traffic
to
do
that.
It
would
potentially
stack
traffic
back
south.
M
H
C
D
Is
dan
allen
with
gonzales
strength
and
associates
1550
winter,
a
riverchase
drive
hoover.
This
is
a
single
lot
that
we're
requesting
approval
on
that's
located
within
the
existing
interstate
industrial
park.
This
particular
piece
is
currently
just
acreage
and
we're
here
tonight
to
request
approval
to
this
one
lot.
C
D
Good
evening
my
name
is
johnny
holly,
I'm
with
thompson
engineering,
2970,
college
hill,
road
mobile
alabama
here
tonight
on
behalf
of
u-haul
montgomery
in
their
effort
to
create
a
one
lot
subdivision.
As
I
understand
it,
they
were
in
the
process
of
renovating
an
existing
building
on
this
piece
of
property,
and
it
was
discovered
that
it
was
multiple
lots
and
it
was
asked
of
them
to
have
it
all
combined
into
one
lot.
So
that's
what
we're
here
tonight
to
seek
approval
of
one
lot
subdivision.
D
C
D
A
D
H
C
B
Good
evening,
gentlemen,
my
name
is
deanna
heich,
I'm
with
the
broadway
group
out
of
huntsville
alabama,
216
west
side
square.
I
am
here
to
ask
you
for
approval
to
subdivide
a
just.
Approximately
six
acre
parcel
a
little
less
than
six
acre
parcel
on
day
street,
and
we
are
looking
to
commercial
retail
development
is
what
I'm
trying
to
spit
out,
eventually
and
and
so
hopefully,
to
projects
for
the
pro
for
the
property
right
now,
working
just
to
get
it
planted.
First.
B
A
H
C
C
Error
in
here
in
this
in
the
plat,
if
there's
not
a
material
error
in
it-
and
you
know
the
boundary
survey
closes,
we
don't
have
any
material
issue
to
not
approve
it.
So
the
law
state
law
says
you
have
to
wait
30
days
and
and
once
30
days
expires.
We
can
we'll
sign
it
and
you
can
take
it
and
record.
N
I'm
pet
peel
green
peel,
green
engineering,
10
270,
highway,
80,
east
montgomery.
This
is
the
site
of
the
jm1
wood
auction
company
and
go
go
back,
go
back
to
the
previous.
If
you
see
there,
part
of
this
is
zoned
m1
part
of
its
ag
and
then
most
of
it's
in
the
flood
zone
anyway,
but
sometime
back
in
the
90s,
there
were
two
buildings
on
this
site:
the
one
that
zoned
m1
had
a
building
on
it.
N
They
tore
it
down.
Well,
actually
there
were
two
buildings
side
by
side.
They
tore
it
down
and
they
redid
the
building
on
the
other
side,
not
in
the
m1,
not
realizing
they
didn't
have
the
zoning,
and
now
they,
the
their
bankers,
are
saying.
You're
building
ought
to
have
the
correct
zoning
for
what
you're
in
I
mean
how
we
got
to
this
point
tanya
and
I
talked
about
it-
you
know.
How
did
we
get
to
this
point
and
not
redo
it
20
years
ago,
sometime
in
late,
90s
or
early
2000s?
N
I
don't
know-
or
maybe
we
just
thought
there
was
a
building
there
and
there
were
some
m1s
on
it
and
it
looked
good
and
didn't
really
do
it.
But
we
did
some
survey
work
out
there
when
when
we
renovated
the
building-
and
we
found
that
a
few
years
ago-
so
we're
here
to
try
to
bring
it
back
to
standard
just.
N
D
I
moved
to
approve,
mr
chill,
with
the
recommendations
of
the
planning
department
planning
department,
have
a
recommendation
on
that.
F
D
D
In
other
words,
if
we
go
in
there
and
we
do
this
and
then
that
give
give
jm
woods
grounds
to
do
or
build
anything,
they
want
to
right
there.
So.
B
N
A
Right
so
everybody
understands
that
it's
a
motion
to
approve
with
the
qualifier-
that's
presently
on
it,
that
it
will
remain
only
an
auction,
great
company,
okay
and
you're,
all
right
with
that
yeah.
Anyone
else
have
a
comment
or
question.
C
N
N
N
I
have
an
office,
but
I
have
a
shed
in
the
back
where
I
store
my
hubs
and
stakes,
and
you
know
all
the
things
we
use,
that
you
don't
have
to
pay
heating
and
cool
for
so
this
is
a
great,
a
great
place
for
that
type
of
business
and
they
can
easily
go
in
in
offices
like
that
are
easily
acceptable
in
business,
and
then
you
don't
have
to
worry
about
what's
happening
around
you
now
the
the
objection.
N
N
N
That's
an
18,
000
square
foot,
woodworking
shop.
If
you
go
to
the
west,
a
quarter
of
a
mile
is
kilby
prison.
If
you
go
to
the
right
a
quarter
of
a
mile,
it's
ohio
feral
with
a
dial
chemical.
You
go
north,
there's
knox,
kershaw,
manufacturing
and
a
railroad
track.
This
is
not
a
residential
kind
of
place.
N
It's
just
not!
It
hadn't
been
forever.
If
you
go
south
towards
the
interstate,
you've
got
the
boys
industrial
park,
I
mean
yeah,
that's
what
they
call
it
in
it
boys.
You
know
what
I'm
talking
about.
Yeah
white.
N
Yeah
but-
and
so
if
you
look
at
the
thing,
that's
on
there
now
at
the
at
the
top
of
that
sheet,
you'll
see
something:
that's
really
gray,
that's
where
the
effluent
from
the
ohio
feral
plant
used
to
go
into
a
pond
where
they
cleaned
it.
So
you
know
folks,
this
is
not
residential
material.
This
is
a
place
where
we
ought
to
have
business.
I
think
putting
retail
in
there
is
okay,
I
mean
the
lake.
That's
there
adjacent
to
the
one
lot:
five
that
was
froggy
bottom
enterprises.
N
They
dug
soil
out
of
the
ground
and
sold
it.
They
trucked
it
out,
went
out
down.
Sprott
road
went
everywhere
and
big
trucks,
so
the
road
is
more
than
adequate
to
accommodate.
Whatever
you
put
on
it,
they
were
there
for
years
and
years
and
eventually
they
ran
out
and
it
filled
up.
So
it's
a
really
nice
lake,
so
it's
kind
of
prettied
up
in
there
two
or
three
people
that
live
along
there.
So
it's
a
neat
place
up
there.
N
Also
the
front
of
these
lots.
You
can't
see
it,
but
there's
like
a
125
foot.
I
think
high
power
line.
Easement
runs
right
down.
Sprott
road
in
front
of
these
lots
and
the
front
of
them
probably
at
least
25
in
100
year
flood.
So
this
is
you
know
this
is
just
not
great
land
to
do
anything,
but
I
think
somebody
like
me
or
a
home
builder.
N
This
would
be
a
good
place
to
be,
and
this
morning
I
got
a
call
from
brian
saying
that
the
lady
that
lived
there
has
agreed
to
purchase
lots
three
four
and
five
from
johnny
moore
that
he
owns
and
she,
if
she
does
that,
and
they
made
an
agreement,
then
she
wouldn't
object
to
us.
Rezoning
lots
one
and
two
now
I
haven't
talked
to
her
and
I
don't
know
her,
so
I
don't
have
any
way
of
telling
you
that
so,
okay.
L
N
H
H
N
Well,
if
you
look
there
on
what's
labeled
lot,
five
and
and.
N
L
My
name
is
susan
golden
I
live
at
644
sprite
drive,
I
own
all
of
the
adjacent
properties
to
lot
five
and
the
two
behind
it.
I
don't
know
exactly
what
the
lot
numbers
are.
I'd
have
to
look
them
up.
L
Yes,
I
have
made
an
agreement
with
mr
moore
to
purchase
the
other
three
lots
that
he
owned
and
I
did
state
that
I
would
not
object
to
the
rezoning
of
mr
sanderson's
lots
according
if
we
have
some
provisions
made
there's
one
thing
I
do
want
to
show
you
today
I
didn't
have
a
chance
to
get
it
developed.
F
L
Yes,
sir,
the
state
owns
a
good
bit
of
the
property
around
this
area
and
they
do
not
maintain
the
beaver
situation.
So
therefore,
it
causes
water
backup
behind
the
woodworking
dynamics,
place
that
he
was
talking
about
today,
part
of
that's
owned
by
the
city,
and
it
is
full
of
beavers.
They
have
dammed
it
up
today.
On
my
other
lot
behind
my
house,
it
was
completely
flooded
because
of
that
situation.
L
L
You
know
if,
if
there's
a
small
business
there
that
you
know
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
truck
traffic
and
that
type
thing,
then
I
don't
object
to
it,
but
I
still
think
there
needs
to
be
some
some
kind
of
restriction
water
because
there's
no
sewer
there,
there's
no
city
water,
there's
no
fire
protection
and
you
put
a
big
building
out
there
and
it
catches
on
fire.
Then
it's
going
to
spread
to
everything
else
out
there.
L
L
Well,
the
first
one
they
said
they
were
going
to
put
a
retention
pawn
in
if
they
build
there
to
help.
You
know,
control
any
water
runoff
personally,
if
they
want
to
do
that,
you
know
to
help
the
water
run
off
and
make
sure
that
they're,
not
these
lots,
mr
moore
went
in
when
he
bought
them
originally,
and
there
was
a
big
mound
of
dirt
there
where
they
had
had
overburdened
from
them
digging
out
the
ponds
he
went
in
and
leveled
it
out,
even
with
the
road,
but
then
it
all
slopes
backwards.
L
D
What
what
is
the
proposal
that
we're
making
pep
do
you
know
that
we're
trying
to
make
what?
What
are
what?
What
is
the
proposal?
Evidently
y'all
are
something.
N
Okay,
we
want
to
rezone
it
to
b2
what
lots
in
this
case.
It
would
be
the
lots
one
and
two:
what
are
you
looking
at?
If
you
look
up
there.
N
N
N
N
N
That's
kind
of
uphill
and
where
that
12
and
14
are
written
is
where
woodworking
dynamics
is
built,
and
then
you
can
see
the
blue
over
to
the
left.
That's
a
100
year
flood
I
mean
there's
only
limited
amount
of
space
you
can
build
on
we'll
have
to
put
a
detention
pond
in
anyway.
We
don't
have
a
choice
about
that.
D
A
N
Figure
out
what
she
was
where
she
was
okay,
we
would
have
to,
of
course,
they'd
have
to
have
septic
tanks,
there's
no
sanitary,
but
we
would
have
to
okay
put
detention
in
okay
and
it's
really
very
little
land
on
those
lots
to
build
on
out
of
three
acres.
It
might
be
an
acre
and
a
half
that
you
can
build
on
and
it's
uphill.
Okay.
I
understand
that
the
issues
but
the
spring.
K
L
For
that,
I
have
one
other
question:
if
they're
wanting
to
rezone
these
two
lots
to
business,
why
aren't
the
businesses
around
there
required
to
be
zoned
business.