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A
A
And
I
am
here
and
we
have
a
quorum.
All
of
our
members
are
here
and
I'd
like
to
welcome
you
guys
to
feels
like
the
first
day
of
school.
It's
our
first
committee
meeting
in
our
committee
room
so
for
those
of
you
joining
us
virtually
especially
for
those
of
you
that
are
joining
us
here
in
the
room.
Welcome
today
we
will
be
hearing
three
bills.
A
Although
the
building
is
open,
it's
open
on
a
limited
basis,
and
so
we
are
still
having
people
join
us
virtually
on
zoom
and
by
telephone
for
those
of
us
who
are
joining
us
in
the
room.
Please
remember
to
keep
your
mask
on
and
continue
to
follow
all
social
distancing.
A
A
After
that,
our
three
bill
hearings.
We
will
have
public
comment
at
the
end
for
those
of
us
for
those
of
you
that
would
like
to
join
us
for
public
comment.
Please
know
that
your
comments
will
be
limited
to
just
two
minutes
and
to
the
rtc.
That's
here
we
will
start
with
your
bill
presentation,
senate
bill
362.
A
I
would
normally
say
the
virtual
floor
is
yours,
but
the
floor
is
yours,
so
we
welcome
you
to
the
presenters
table.
C
C
as
one
of
the
co-chairs
of
the
southern
nevada
forum,
which
met
in
the
interim
between
legislative
sessions.
This
was
the
main
priority
that
emerged
from
our
subcommittee.
For
those
of
you
that
don't
know
the
southern
nevada
forum
is
made
as
a
bipartisan
bicameral
entity,
and
we
decided
that
it
was
important
to
make
sure
that
we
expanded
the
ability
to
have
micro
transit
options
in
every
portion
of
our
state.
So
we
moved
the
recommendation
forward
from
our
subcommittee
to
the
full
forum,
which
overwhelmingly
decided
to
advance
it
to
the
legislature.
D
Thank
you
so
many
watts,
and
good
afternoon
chairwoman,
monroe
moreno
and
the
committee
m.j
maynard
rtc
of
southern
nevada,
ceo
for
the
record
before
we
get
into
the
details
of
the
legislation.
I'd
like
to
take
a
quick
moment
to
thank
the
committee
for
hearing
this
bill
and
the
southern
nevada
forum
for
making
public
transportation
a
priority
for
the
community
and
bringing
this
request
forward.
D
Public
transportation
is
a
bipartisan
effort
and
in
order
to
better
serve
residents
and
create
mobility
solutions
for
southern
nevada,
the
rtc
is
seeking
the
authority
to
offer
microtransit
as
a
tool
in
our
toolbox,
which
is
the
same
authority
given
to
all
the
counties
except
clark.
County
microtransit
is
defined
in
nrs.
D
2778.280
is
transportation
by
a
multi-passenger
vehicle
that
carries
fewer
passengers
than
the
vehicles
normally
used
on
regular
routes
and
is
dispatched
through
a
digital
network
or
software
application
service.
In
other
words,
microtransit
is
a
smaller
vehicle,
on-demand
service
that
passengers
can
request
from
their
mobile
devices
in
comparison
to
the
fixed
route.
Large
bus
services
typically
provided
by
transit
agencies,
the
rtc
would
use
microtransit
to
provide
first
and
last
mile
public
transportation
solutions
and
additional
mobility
services
in
those
areas
that
need
transit.
D
D
Innovation
is
disrupting
every
industry
and
the
rtc
needs
to
be
able
to
quickly
respond
to
customer
demand
and
provide
the
most
efficient
and
effective
transportation
services
for
our
customers.
Now,
I'd
like
to
turn
over
to
rtc's
associate
general
counsel
david
clyde
to
provide
the
additional
legislation
details,
including
the
technical
changes
made
to
the.
E
E
E
First
in
nrs277a
0.140,
we
propose
removing
the
limitations
in
sections
two
and
three
that
regarding
the
rtc's
ability
to
provide
on-call
public
transportation
services,
then
in
nrs
277
a
.280.
We
recommend
shifting
the
language
from
nrs
277,
8.280,
subsection
3c
that
permits
microtransit
service
in
every
other
county,
except
for
clark
county
and
creating
a
new
section
in
nrs,
277a,
0.28.280,
subsection,
1e
and
shifting
that
language
in
that
would
create.
That
would
then
permit
every
county,
including
clark
county,
to
provide
that
same
micro
transit
service.
E
Again,
thank
you
committee
members
for
hearing
senate
bill
362
and
we're
here
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
might
have
and
so
due
to,
I
think,
we'll
be
playing
a
little
bit
of
musical
chairs
here.
But
if
you
have
any
sort
of
technical
questions
on
the
statute,
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
them
or
any
questions
on
the
specific
transit
service.
Miss
maynard
we'll
be
happy
to
answer
them
so.
A
F
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
for
for
bringing
this
bill
on
last
session,
I
brought
a
bill
to
offer
a
pilot
tran
micro
transport
transit
project
to
washoe
county
and
was
really
supportive
of
it,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we
wanted
to
make
sure
we
got
on
the
record
is
in
expanding.
The
current
transit
system
does
rtc
propose
to
or
anticipate
to
use
the
use
of
non-union
contractors
to
expand
these
services.
D
Maynard
mj
made
for
the
record.
That's
a
great
question,
like
all
rtc
provided
transit
services,
all
services
provided
today
and
going
forward
are
union
drivers.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
we
have
an
rfp
on
the
street
that,
if
this
proposed
bill
goes
through,
will
include
and
that
bill
that
the
drivers
of
the
service
are
in
fact,
union
employees.
F
A
A
G
You
miss
maynard
for
the
presentation
question,
so
the
microtransit
would
not
necessarily
be
expanding
the
service
area,
so
we
would
not,
so
your
organization
would
not
be
expanding
paratransit.
How
does
that
work?
Thank
you.
D
Microtransit
in
and
of
itself,
the
the
proposed
service
area
would
be
in
the
south
southwest
area
that
currently
has
no
transit.
This
pilot
would
actually
include
the
microtranspiler
would
include
service
for
both
fixed
route,
customers
and
paratransit
customers.
So
to
answer
your
question:
yes,
in
this
new
area
that
has
had
no
transit
service,
both
paratransit
and
fixed
rock
customers
will
be
able
to
take,
will
be
able
to
access
this
market
transit
pilot.
G
D
Mj
made
it
for
the
record
the
for
this
micro
transit
pilot
proposed
pilot
for
paratransit
customers.
They
would
access
their
trip
on
demand
by
way
of
a
mobile
device
or
their
or
they
could
call
to
actually
reserve
a
ride.
D
They
would
be
picked
up
and
they
would
be
taken
to
to
their
destination
point
for
fixed
route
customers.
They
would
access
again
they'd,
either
call
call
it
in
or
through
a
mobile
device
and
within
30
minutes.
This,
the
smaller
microtransfer
vehicle
would
pick
them
up
and
take
them
to
the
nearest
bus.
Stop
to
connect
to
our
fixed
route
system.
G
Thank
you,
one
more
follow-up,
please
chair.
Thank
you
so
much
so
it's
like
a
split.
The
paratransit
is
the
full
service.
The
fixed
route
is
to
the
next
closest
fixed
route
location.
Is
that
correct.
G
D
That's
a
great
question
and
thank
you
for
that.
Prior
to
the
pandemic,
rtc's
transit
fund
was
facing
a
deficit.
The
pandemic
exacerbate
exacerbated
our
transit
fund
significantly,
but
because
we're
receiving
stimulus
funds
we'll
be
able
to
use
stimulus
funds
to
introduce
this
micro
transit
pilot
to
the
community.
H
D
Mgm
for
the
record:
yes,
that's
correct.
We
actually
all
of
our
transit
service
we
provide
but
paratransit
and
fixed
route.
We
have
a
public-private
partnership
and
currently
the
rfp
is
out
on
the
street.
All
of
the
companies
that
have
responded
our
private
sector,
but
to
assemblywoman
peter's
point.
Their
employees
are
unionized.
H
H
So
will
you
be
using
so
you
you
follow
follow-up?
Sorry,
you
explained
that
during
the
pandemic
that
you
had
to
reduce
your
services
due
to
funding
as
the
stimulus
money
comes
in
when
or
if
it
comes
in,
will
you
be
restoring
any
service
that
was
taken
away
previously
in
accordance
with
this
microtransit
system?.
D
Mj
made
it
for
the
record
due
to
the
pandemic
and
the
the
corresponding
decline
in
our
in
our
sales
tax
and
fair
revenue
which
support
public
transit.
We
cut
approximately
nine
million
dollars
worth
of
transit
service
over
a
hundred
thousand
service
hours
because
we're
receiving
federal
stimulus
money
for
public
transportation.
A
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
miss
maynard.
It's
really
great
to
see
you
here
in
person
today,
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
all
the
really
great
work
that
I
know
your
agency
does
to
support.
So
many
people
across
the
valley.
This
is
really
exciting
and
very
interesting.
I
have
really
two
questions.
First,
I
want
to
follow
up
on
my
colleagues
question
and
be
really
clear.
I
The
first
mile
last
mile,
I
think,
is
insightful
in
many
many
ways,
but
in
particular
for
the
paratransit
customers.
Who've
often
done
that
first
mile
last
mile
to
a
central
point
to
have
a
parrot
transit
bus
pick
them
up
at
a
local,
711
or
other
public
location.
Will
this
continue
to
do
that
this
micro
transit?
Would
that
transport
them
to
a
central
location
to
pick
up
a
regular
para
transit
ride,
or
would
this
really
get
them
to
their
destination?.
D
Mgm
for
the
record,
this
micro
transit
pilot-
and
I
guess
going
back
to
assemblyman
armstrong,
her
point.
This
would
be
expanding
the
paratransit
service
area
and
and
because
of
that,
those
paratransit
customers
would
be
picked
up
where
they
live
and
and
dropped
directly
off
to
the
location
that
they
desire.
Rather
than
having
to
find
a
central
location,
get
picked
up
by
pair
transit.
I
Thank
you
follow-up
chair,
so
I
have
two
two
follow-ups
relative
to
that.
Do
you
have
a
number
a
list,
and
obviously
not
a
name
but
the
number
of
folks
that
would
request
paratransit
services
from
that
proposed
area
and
and
just
for
follow-up
for
later.
D
D
For
your
second
question,
my
transit
agencies
around
the
united
states
started
introducing
microtransit
as
a
another
mobility
option
as
far
back
as
2016..
So
there
are
a
number
of
transit
agencies
around
the
united
states
that
operate
this
and
I'll
use
an
example.
La
metro
just
kicked
off
their
their
new
micro
transit
service.
So
this
is
something
again.
You
know,
I
think,
folks,
that
ride
transit.
A
Ms,
when
you
get
that
information,
would
you
send
it
to
our
committee
secretary
and
we
can
get
it
out
to
all
the
members
and
jamie
ferguson.
J
Thank
you
so
much,
madam
chair.
Let
me
reorganize
here,
it's
weird
being
back
in
the
committee
room,
but
it's
great
to
be
here
with
all
of
you
and
miss
maynard.
Let
me
start
first
by
saying
I
really
like
the
mask
you're
wearing
today.
Go
nights,
go
first
team
to
make
the
playoffs
this
year,
so
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
got
out
on
the
record.
J
I
really
appreciate
this
bill.
I
have
this
map
in
front
of
me
and
this
proposed
service
area.
That's
in
light.
Green
is
part
of
my
district.
The
southwest
part
of
las
vegas,
and
one
thing
I
hear
a
lot
from
constituents-
is
the
need
for
transportation,
particularly
as
you
get
further
down
by
blue
diamond
fort
apache
area,
so
there's
definitely
a
need
and
a
desire,
and
I'm
very
thankful
that
this
is
where
the
program
is
going
to
be
starting.
J
My
question
is:
what
are
your
plans
to
get
the
word
out
to
people
in
those
areas
who
might
be
able
to
take
advantage
of
this?
Because
I
know
you
guys
do
a
really
good
job
getting
the
word
out
and
I'm
sure
you
will
but
just
wanted
to
get
a
sense
of
what
that's
going
to
look
like
and
how
I
might
be
able
to
help
in
those
efforts.
D
Thank
you
so
much
great
news
that
today
we
have
angela
castro
with
us
and
she
she
is
in
charge.
Her
team
are
in
charge
of
ensuring
that
this
this
program
is,
is
made
available
by
way
of
of
marketing
etc
to
the
community
I'm
actually.
I
have
because
so
comprehensive
I'm
going
to
ask
her
to
come
up
and
tell
you
about
that.
F
Thank
you
for
the
record.
It's
angela
castro
with
the
rtc
in
terms
of
our
service
changes
that
we
are
proposing
once
this
if
this
bill
passes,
but
you
know
right
now,
we
are
actually
going
out
and
asking
the
community
if
this
is
something
that
they
want.
We
have
right
now
scheduled
over
a
hundred
in-person
engagements
between
now
and
may
31st
we
are
working
with
the
southern
nevada
health
district.
We
are
working
with
all
of
the
local
governments.
We
are
at
vaccine
sites
trying
to
get
surveys.
F
F
Our
goal
is
to
roughly
get
between
five
to
six
thousand
surveys
and
it's
not
just
from
transit
writers,
so
we
want
to
hear
from
our
community.
While
we
may
get
six
thousand,
I
told
my
team.
It
needs
to
be
completed
surveys.
So
all
15
questions
need
to
be
answered
for
that
to
count
as
one
survey,
so
we
anticipate
we'll
touch
or
engage
with.
I
want
to
say
closely
to
50
to
60
000
people
within
the
next
45.
K
Thank
you,
madam
chairman,
and
I
love
this
idea
being
able
to
to
get
into
some
of
these
areas,
but
I'm
trying
to
understand
and
I'm
having
a
hard
time
hearing
you
guys
up
there
with
the
mask
on.
I
can
hear
these
guys
here,
but
up
there
I'm
having
a
hard
time.
But
how
does
is
this
something
that's
within
your
already
in
your
budget
that
you
work
with.
Is
that
how
that
operates
or
or
is
this
a
new
program
that
you
got
to
add
into
it
or
how
does
that
work.
D
Mj
made
it
for
the
record.
As
I
mentioned,
we
we
were
facing
a
transit
deficit.
We
cut
transit
service
during
the
pandemic,
and
the
area
that
we
are
proposing.
This
micro
transit
pilot
to
occur
is
an
area
of
southern
nevada
that
that
has
not
had
any
transit
service
ever
and
even
though
we've
been
receiving
comments
from
constituents
in
that
area
since
2006,
and
so
because
of
the
stimulus
funding,
we're
now
able
to
add
back
transit
service
to
almost
where
we
were
pre-pandemic
and
that's
going
to
include
that
micro
transit
pilot.
D
So
it's
not
an
additional,
it's
not
an
additional
bucket
of
money.
If
you
will
it's
going
to
be
part
of
adding
service
back
pre-pandemic
we're
just
going
to
make
sure
that
we
we
stretch
the
tax
dollar
and
we
do
it
in
such
a
way
that
we're
able
to,
for
the
first
time
meet
the
needs
of
customers
that
have
never
had
access
to
public
transit.
D
Mj
made
it
for
the
record
the
beauty
of
a
pilot
is
we
get
to
learn
from
it
and
we
get
to
understand
what
works.
What
doesn't
work,
we'll
survey
the
customers
and
if
it
does
work-
and
we
find
that
that
application
again,
particularly
microtransit,
is
particularly
helpful
for
a
connection
to
public
transit,
so
many
times
for
areas
that
don't
have
transit.
But
we
we
are
open
to
to
identifying
areas
in
our
service
area
where
micro
transit
could
work.
K
A
Thank
you
miss
maynard.
If
you
have
not
already
uploaded
the
map
on
tenellas,
would
you
do
that
for
us
after
the
meeting,
and
that
way
all
the
members
that
do
not
have
a
printed
copy
of
it
will
have
it
and
then
the
public,
that's
following
along
with
this
legislation,
will
be
able
to
see
it
as
well.
D
A
L
Have
I
guess
a
question,
maybe
two
questions.
One
is
a
point
of
just
clarifying
for
me.
As
I'm
learning
you
know
even
more
the
so
the
micro
transit
service
is
going
to
be
available
to
anybody,
or
is
it
just
going
to
be
to
get
well?
Paratransit
just
gets
people
directly
door
to
door
right
so
getting
people
to
fix
routes,
so
anyone
would
be
able
to
access
the
micro
transit.
D
Mj
main
for
the
record,
that
is
correct,
so
if
you
don't
have
access
to
the
map
I'll
make
sure
you
get
that,
but
in
the
area,
that's
in
the
light
green,
that's
the
proposed
micro
transit
service
area.
Anyone
that
lives
in
that
area
that
wants
to
get
on
a
fixed
road
bus
needs
that
connection.
We
will
pick
them
up
and
we
will
take
them
to
the
nearest
bus
line
or
bus.
Stop
the
paratransit
customers
who
live
in
that
that
zoned
area
will
be
given
a
pickup
and
a
drop
off
to
their
desired
location.
Okay,.
L
Thank
you,
one
more
question
chair
and
angela.
She
provided
me
with
the
map,
so
I
did
get
that,
and
so
I
do
understand
in
this
kind
of
test
area
or
this
initial
area,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
anyone
in
that
area
would
be
able
to
access
the
micro
transit
service.
So
then
my
next
question
is,
as
far
as
the
cost
to
the
customer.
What
does
that
look
like.
D
D
D
We
don't
charge
customers
another
fee
when
they
when
they
transfer
buses,
so
it
would
be
two
dollars
each
way.
D
A
K
K
We
welcome
the
opportunity
to
increase
mobility
options
for
nevadans
and
explore
innovative
solutions
such
as
microtransit
that
generate
positive
benefits
for
our
community
and
for
our
environment.
On-Demand
transit
service
provides
rtc's
customers
with
additional
options
that
are
sustainable,
safe
and
get
riders
where
they
need
to
go.
Furthermore,
microtransit
reduces
the
number
of
vehicles
on
the
road,
thus
reducing
pollution
and
improving
air
quality
nevada
set
bold
goals
to
reduce
our
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
all
options,
including
microtransit,
should
be
considered
in
order
to
meet
those
goals.
Where's
the
committee's
support
of
sb362.
H
Our
valley
is
in
need
of
essential
public
transit
services
to
support
nevada
businesses
and
sp
362
would
provide
microtransit
as
another
transportation
resource
for
the
community.
Microtransit
would
allow
greater
access
and
more
flexibility
for
getting
people
where
they
need
to
go
especially
to
the
doors
of
businesses
across
southern
nevada.
A
M
N
Good
afternoon,
chair
and
committee
members,
my
name
is
paul
katha
and
I'm
representing
the
culinary
union.
The
culinary
union
represents
60
000
hospitality
workers
in
nevada
and
many
essential.
Frontline
ship
workers
rely
on
public
transportation
to
get
to
work,
reliably
safely
and
efficiently.
N
Sb
362
not
only
benefits
hospitality
workers,
but
also
allows
the
rtc
to
service
communities
that
previously
had
few
viable
options
with
regards
to
transportation,
as
public
transportation
adapts
to
technology
and
consumer
preferences.
On-Demand
transit
service,
like
microtransit,
will
be
essential
to
getting
nevadans
where
they
need
to
be.
The
culinary
union
urges
the
nevada
legislature
to
support
and
pass
sb
362..
Thank
you.
M
N
Good
afternoon
michael
hillerby
h-I-l-l-e-r-b-y
on
behalf
of
rtc
washoe
here
today
to
support
the
bill.
We
appreciate
rtc
southern
nevada,
bringing
forward
expanding
on
the
legislation
we
brought
for
fourth
last
session,
our
flex
right
or
microtransit
service
in
rtc
washoe's
territory
has
been
quite
a
success.
We
now
have
pilot
programs
operating
in
the
spark
spanish
springs
area,
north
valleys
and
somerset
and
verdi
in
west
reno.
These
are
areas
that
are
beyond
our
normal
fixed
route
service.
Again,
it's
been
very
popular.
N
M
N
N
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration
of
sp
362.
as
nevada
continues
to
grow
quickly,
ensuring
that
southern
nevada
can
provide
additional
mobility
options
to
valley
residents
and
businesses
should
be
a
high
priority
for
our
state.
I
commend
the
rtc
for
always
making
our
community
better
and
especially
our
business
community.
Thank
you.
M
N
Good
afternoon,
chair
monroe,
moreno
and
committee
members,
my
name
is
matt
walker,
calling
in
support
on
behalf
of
the
southern
nevada,
homebuilders
micro
transit
is
a
smart
way
to
expand
services
to
our
newer
communities,
and
it
demonstrates
that
with
smarter
planning,
we
can
meet
our
joint
objectives
of
ghg
reduction
and
increase
services
in
an
efficient
way
and
it.
For
that
reason,
we
are
in
full
support.
I
also
would
like
to
briefly
echo
my
support
on
behalf
of
emotional
as
well.
Thank
you
so
much.
M
N
N
district
f
includes
some
of
the
fastest
growing
parts
of
the
las
vegas
valley,
and
much
of
my
district
does
does
not
have
transit.
Sb
362
would
greatly
benefit
my
constituents
as
they
return
to
school
work
and
normal
life
by
permitting
the
rtc
to
provide
transit
service
that
does
not
exist
today,
sp
362
specifically
allows
the
rtc
to
offer
micro
transit
service.
This
new
service
will
provide
another
mobility
option
to
nearly
70
000
residents,
who
currently
do
not
have
transit
service.
N
In
my
district,
this
expansion
will
connect
the
southwest
las
vegas
valley
to
nearly
14
000
employment
opportunities
for
grocery
stores
and
over
a
dozen
schools
and
child
care
facilities.
In
my
capacity
as
vice
chair
of
the
rtc,
I
often
hear
from
residents
across
southern
nevada
about
the
need
for
flexible,
reliable
transportation
solutions
and
microtransit
offers
them
an
on-demand
and
affordable
option.
Once
again,
thank
you
for
your
consideration,
sp
362
and
your
efforts
to
ensure
greater
access
to
transit
services
for
southern
nevada.
M
B
The
committee
chair
don
snyder,
was
unable
to
be
here
today
and
asked
me
to
testify
in
support
of
senate
bill
26362
on
his
behalf
track
consists
of
35
community
leaders,
including
representation
from
labor
gaming,
environmental
business
chambers,
higher
education,
seniors
and
transit
users.
The
committee
cares
deeply
about
mobility
issues
in
southern
nevada.
B
Sb
362
removes
current
statutory
impediments
to
the
provision
of
on-call
public
transit
and
will
allow
the
rtc
of
southern
nevada
to
continue
its
mission
of
improving
connectivity,
accessibility
and
equity
to
all
of
our
valley
residents.
Thank
you
for
considering
sb
362
to
help
improve
our
transportation
options.
In
southern
nevada,.
M
M
M
N
Good
afternoon
chair,
I'm
ro,
marino
and
committee
members.
My
name
is
richard
mason
r-a-s-h-a-r-d
m-a-s-o-n.
I
am
a
resident
of
las
vegas
in
support
of
senate
bill
362.
as
a
valley
resident.
I
have
used
routes,
206,
charleston,
210,
lake,
mead
and
the
sahara
express,
along
with
other
routes
as
needed.
Transit
is
important
service
to
the
community
and
as
a
transit
rider.
This
is
how
I
and
other
customers
are
able
to
get
to
work
to
the
grocery
store
to
the
doctor
and
other
essential
trips
when
a
personal
vehicle
is
not
an
option.
N
A
M
B
B
This
bill
will
allow
the
rtc
to
provide
essential
transit
services
as
early
as
august
to
an
area
of
west
henderson
affected
by
with
more
than
31
000
residents,
3
900
employment
sites,
nine
new
child
care
facilities
and
two
grocery
stores.
This
also
covers
the
haas
automation
facility,
as
well
as
the
chairwoman
for
the
rtc.
I'm
grateful
for
your
consideration
of
sb
362
and
all
that
you
do
to
ensure
that
the
city
of
henderson
and
all
of
our
southern
nevada
communities
have
a
viable
transportation
option.
Thank
you.
O
N
M
B
Good
afternoon
chairwoman
and
the
committee
members
and
everybody,
my
name
is
dora
martinez,
I'm
a
member
of
the
nevada
disability,
peer
action
coalition,
also
member
of
the
rtc
citizen,
multimodal
advisory
committee,
and
I
do
support
this.
Maybe
three,
I'm
sorry.
I
forgot
the
number,
but
I
do
support
it.
We
have
that
here
at
the
washoe
county
and
it's
really
useful.
Thank
you
so
much.
A
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee.
For
your
time.
I
don't
think
I
have
anything
else
to
add.
Thank
you
for
your
support
and
I
urge
you
to
pass
senate
bill.
360.
A
O
Good
afternoon,
it's
good
to
be
with
you
it's
kind
of
fun
to
be
back
in
person
kind
of
with
you
for
the
record,
senator
mo
dennis
senate
district
2.
O
As
many
of
you
know,
the
pandemic
caused
the
dmv
to
shut
down
for
two
months
last
summer
and
since
it
reopened,
the
offices
have
been
limited
to
only
50
percent,
normal
capacity.
That
situation
created
a
tremendous
backlog
and
the
dmv
has
been
working
hard
to
catch
up
to
help
alleviate
the
backlog.
The
dmv
put
some
services
online,
which
turned
out
to
be
very
effective.
O
O
So
what
does
a
bill?
Do
section?
1
of
the
bill
allows
dmv
to
issue
cards
certificates
or
licenses
in
electronic
form,
but
only
if
a
physical
version
of
the
document
has
also
been
issued
so
think
about
that
you
could
carry
your
driver's
license
on
your
phone
section.
Two
makes
it
clear
that
a
person
is
still
required
to
have
the
physical
version
with
them
in
the
vehicle,
unless
there
is
an
already
exception
in
the
law.
Nrs
482.255,
as
cited
in
the
bill
in
section
1,
refers
back
to
just
such
an
exception.
O
There
was
a
concern
expressed
on
the
senate
side
about
the
authentication
of
certain
documents
without
an
in-person
meeting
and
inspection,
and
the
dmv
understands
that
not
every
transaction
is
appropriate
for
con
conversion
to
an
electronic
format.
Other
states
and
the
federal
government
are
grappling
with
these
same
issues,
and
so
nevada
is
not
alone
in
that
in
this
effort.
O
Clearly,
the
changes
contemplate
contemplated
in
senate
bill
204
will
take
time
and
both
sections
of
this
bill
are
enabling
not
mandatory
but
senate
bill.
204
gives
the
dmv
the
opportunity
to
migrate
more
services
to
electronic
or
online
platforms,
including
the
ability
to
offer
a
mobile
driver's
license
or
identification
card
so
to
wrap
up.
I
ask
you,
give
the
dmv
the
flexibility
it
needs
to
expand
its
offering
of
online
electronic
transactions
and
help
move
the
dmv's
transformation
mission
forward.
O
O
As
I
said
before,
not
every
transaction
is
going
to
be
online
immediately
and
some
transactions
may
never
lend
themselves
to
an
electronic
format,
but
in
the
end
this
transformation
will
effort.
This
transformation
effort
will
benefit
all
nevadans
by
eliminating
or
reducing
trips
to
the
dmv
and
shortening
lines
at
the
physical
locations.
O
A
H
Yes,
please
chair:
this
is
sean
sever
from
the
dmv
good
afternoon,
chair
and
committee
members.
Thank
you
for
letting
us
present
this
bill
to
you
today
and
we
wanted
to
thank
senator
dennis
for
sponsoring
this.
H
For
us,
as
senator
dennis
mentioned,
81
000
nevadans
have
taken
advantage
of
renewing
their
driver's
licenses
online
since
last
september,
so
that
shows
you
it's
a
great
example
of
what
nevadans
want
from
the
dmv
and,
of
course,
as
you
mentioned,
our
offices
will
still
be
open
for
those
wanting
in-person
transactions,
and
so
the
dmv
is
committed
to
radically
changing
its
long-term
service
delivery
model
from
an
in-person,
brick
and
mortar
service
to
an
online
storefront
similar
to
online
shopping
experiences.
H
Many
of
you
use
today
the
dmv
has
made
a
budget
request
of
the
2020
led
2021
legislature
to
start
its
transformation
effort,
which
is
a
four-year
process
to
transition
most,
if
not
all,
of
our
services.
Online
and
sb
204
is
a
big
part
of
this
effort
and
we
greatly
appreciate
you
considering
this
bill.
A
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I
had
some
concerns
when
I
first
read
this
and
I
wasn't
sure
so
I
did
call
the
mba
and
I
talked
to
the
emv
and
when
I
got
done
and
and
apparently
this
is
going
on
all
over
the
united
states
quite
a
bit
using
this
a
lot
and
he
answered
all
my
questions
and
and
he
did
a
great
job.
But
dmv
is
always
pretty
good.
K
But
when
you
got
out
of
state
and
you
got
in
an
airport,
they'd
pull
you
over
and
say
your
driver's
license
expired
and
when
you
try
to
show
them
the
little
sticker.
They'd
say
no,
that
we
won't
accept
that.
So
that
created
a
lot
of
problem-
and
they
don't
do
that
anymore.
But
as
good
as
as
if
I
needed
electronic
version
of
this
right
now,
I
could
call
up
or
get
on
a
computer
and
get
it
and
be
sent
to
me,
and
I
can
send
it
to
my
insurance
agent
or
whatever.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
a
couple
of
questions.
I
know
this
is
enabling,
but
I'm
particularly
interested
in
the
electronic
driver's
licenses-
and
I
promise
I
won't
ask
about
electronic
license
plates
because
those
are,
I
think,
a
little
more
involved,
but
I
noticed
in
the
first
part
of
the
bill
section,
one
subsection
one
there's
this
requirement
that
you
can't
have
a
physical
driver's
license
and
an
electronic
one,
and
my
question
was:
is
that
there
just
because
there's
too
much
opportunity
for
fraud?
O
Used
so
I
would
think
mr
sever,
probably
I
I
can
tell
you
my
my
version
of
that
would
be.
I
think
that
the
technologies
are
still
being
developed,
that
that
would
allow
you
know,
because
I
I
mean
when
you
think
of
your
driver's
license
on
your
phone.
You
would
think
that
it
would
be
like
a
copy
like
a
picture
of
your
of
your
driver's
license
on
there,
but
in
actuality.
I
would
envision
that
there
would
be
applications
that
would
be
developed.
O
That
would
have
that
information,
and
then
you
could
only
show
the
information
that
needs
to
be
shown.
So,
if
all
they
need
to
know
is
your
name
and
address
and
your
right
your
picture,
then
it
would
just
show
that
so
you
don't
have
to
show
everything
that
you
have
on
a
driver's
license.
So
that's
what
I
would
envision.
I
I
think
they
could
probably
verify
that,
but.
P
Thank
you
senator
hernandez.
Thank
you
for
the
record
jude
heron
deputy
director
of
dmv.
You
are
correct,
senator
dennis
as
well.
In
addition
to
that,
since
it
is
new
technology,
a
lot
of
jurisdictions
or
states
have
are
piloting
this
right
now.
P
The
the
reason
for
the
language
assembly
jager
is
kind
of
a
transitory
kind
of
language.
It's
a
transition
because
of
this
technology,
not
everybody
will
take
it.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
still
has
their
physical
card
and,
as
time
goes
on
and
technology
gets
improved
and
and
so
forth
it.
It
will
eventually
get
to
a
point
to
where
it'll
be
down
the
road
years
down.
The
road
it'll
be
just
an
electronic
version
itself.
So
it's
more
of
a
transition.
Other
states
are
doing
that
as
well
in
their
dav
pilots.
J
J
So
the
second
question
is
it's
along
those
same
lines,
and
you
know
I
think
about
what
we
use
our
driver's
licenses
for
now
and
I
think
the
most
the
most
pressing
for
most
of
us,
probably
in
southern
nevada,
is
you
use
them
with
tsa?
They
put
them
through
the
scanner
now
or
for
age
verification
purposes.
When
you
go
to
places
they'll
have
you,
you
know
scan
the
back
of
it
or,
I
suppose,
pharmacies,
if
you're
buying
some
controlled
substance,
they'll
scan
that
barcode
on
the
back
and
maybe
at
airports
as
well.
J
I
think
I
mentioned
that,
but
so
my
question
is,
I
understand
this
is
enabling,
but
is
there
technology
out
there
right
now
or
is
it
being
developed?
That
would
allow
the
integration
of
all
of
those
platforms,
because
not
that
I
think
you're
going
to
launch
this
without
that
being
ready,
but
obviously
there's
some
concerns
there
about.
If
you
only
had
an
electronic
version
of
it,
if
you
can't
get
through
the
airport
or
if
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
be
age
verified
by
some
of
the
technology.
O
So
I'll
start
as
far
as
the
the
technology
I
I
will
allow
dmv,
because
I
know
that
they've
done
some
research
on
that
on
what's
going
on,
but,
as
you
know,
technology
is
changing
constantly
with
the
real
id.
There
are
specific
things
that
you
have
to
do
in
order
for
tsa,
for
example,
to
accept
that
information.
So
as
we've
done
in
in
the
past
on
another
legislation
that
I've
worked
on
with
the
dmv,
you
have
to
make
sure
that
whatever
we
do
we'll
comply
with
that
also
as
we
move
forward.
O
So
I
would
think
that
all
of
those
things
would
be
possible
as
the
security
and
all
those
measures
are
put
in
place.
You'll
be
able
to
in.
In
all
those
instances.
Do
you
know
whether
it's
an
id
that
you're
trying
to
present
or
other
information?
O
P
Yeah,
thank
you
senator
dennis
jude
here
and
for
the
record
deputy
director
of
dmv.
Just
to
add
to
that
there
are,
as
I
said
before,
there's
other
states
already
piloting
this,
and
we
do
right
now
have
one
of
our
our
vendors
that
actually
creates
the
credentials
for
the
dmv,
the
driver's
license
id
cards
and
so
forth.
Right
now
is
one
of
our
vendors
that
we
hope
to
in
the
next
18
months.
P
24
months
around
there
expand
services,
hopefully
to
provide
this
kind
of
what
they
call,
authentication
and
verification
systems,
and
it
is
centered
around
the
security
that
you're
talking
about.
Assemblyman
jaeger
is
one
of
the
biggest
things
that
we
want
to
make
sure
on.
Is
that
we're
not
compromising
our
our
protocols
within
the
dmv
before
issuing
a
credential?
P
This
technology
that
is
in
place
today
allows
an
individual
through
these
vendors,
to
kind
of
like
what
you
do
today.
P
If
you
want
an
app
or
something
to
that,
you
add
that
app
and
there's
a
certain
app
protocols
that
you
go
through
and
this
app
actually
verifies
who
you
are
and
it
authenticates
you,
and
through
that
proven
process,
we
could
actually
create
this
mobile
id
kind
of
verification
system,
not
just
for
the
mobile
ids,
but
also
for
what
we
hope
to
through
our
transformation
system
is
to
allowing
people
whether
they're
new
or
they
just
got
their
license
whatever
or
they're
reinstating,
to
actually
have
the
ability
to
upload
information,
electronically
and
so
forth,
and
so
all
that
technology
is
available
today,
however,
we're
looking
at
this
as
a
timing
issue,
because
of
transformation
and
because
of
senate
bill
4133,
which
is
the
real
id
modernization
act,
this
is
the
actual
language
that
helps
all
jurisdictions,
give
them
the
flexibility
to
actually
expand
their
driver's
license
programs
to
allow
an
individual
to
upload
electronic
documents
from
their
home
and
and
to
apply
for
their
credentials
rather
than
coming
into
the
office.
P
So
what
our
hope
is
is
through
our
vendor,
right
now
and
through
the
work
that
homeland
security
is
doing
through
this
bill,
as
well
as
our
transformation
process
project.
Our
timing
of
this
is
is
essential,
is
is
critical,
I
should
say,
and
in
the
meantime
other
states
are
piloting
this
and
our
vendor
is.
It's
got
a
pulse
on
it
and
our
vendor
right
now,
who
does
this
verification?
Authentication
technology
is
working
with
other
states
on
this
project
right
now,
as
well
as
washington
and
congress
and
amva
and
all
the
other
associations.
P
So
we
believe
at
that
time,
when
we
actually
roll
out
through
our
transformation
in
the
next
couple
years
for
the
driver's
license
piece
of
this.
We,
our
hope,
is
to
roll
out
also
the
ability
not
only
to
apply
from
your
home,
but
the
ability
also
to
have
a
mobile
id,
but
that
also
takes
in
consideration
the
their
our
outside
stakeholder
campaign
that
we
have
to
work
with
as
well.
It's
one
thing
to
create
a
mobile
id.
P
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
think
mr
yeager
kind
of
clarified
for
me
the
electronic
versus
possession
of
a
of
a
of
a
physical
license.
My
other
question
was
is
so
in
creation
of
this
new
office
or
this
electronic
branch
office?
H
Is
there
a
cost
associated
with
it
and
accordingly,
to
do
the
the
informational
campaign?
Is
there?
Is
there
an
additional
cost?
That's
that's
put
upon
the
dmv
to
do
these
two
things.
O
So
I'll
start
just
because
I'm
on
finance,
we
we
we
get
the
budgets
for
the
department-
and
I
know
the
department
has
for
the
modernization-
has
already
submitted
a
budget
for
that.
So
this
is
really
enabling
language
that
would
allow
them
with
this
new
modernization
to
be
able
to
do
the
electronic
piece
which
currently
they
can't
do
because
statutes
doesn't
permit
them
to
do
that.
O
H
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
thank
you
senator
dennis
and
mr
seaver
for
your
presentation.
A
gentleman
from
dmv
is
you
had
mentioned
that
you
need
to
talk
to
your
stakeholders.
You
mentioned
some
agencies,
but
I
did
not
hear
you
mention
the
police
and,
in
addition
to
this
id
being
used
in
supermarkets
and
retail
locations,
this
would
be
a
very
useful
tool,
for
you
know:
police
interaction,
traffic
stops.
What
have
you
would
you
be
considering
them
to
have
access
to
this?
P
Jude
here
and
for
the
record,
thank
you
assemblywoman
for
the
question
and
my
apologies
for
not
listing
them.
They're
they're,
pretty
much
our
partner,
our
our
brother
agency,
with
everything
that
we
do.
That's
law
enforcement.
We
have
a
back-end
connection
with
them
electronically,
where
we
provide
the
data
from
dmv,
always
so,
when
a
project,
no
matter
what
the
project
is
affects,
law
enforcement
they
are.
We
are
at
glued
to
our
hips
of
basically
of
making
sure
that
electronically,
their
data
is
updated.
P
You
can
provide
to
the
officer
knowing
full
well
that
the
officer
is
probably
going
to
be
pulling
that
information
through
dispatch
and
so
forth.
So
those
are
the
things
that
we're
looking
at
when
it
comes
to
rolling
out
this
digital
kind
of
a
system
for
the
credentials
and
not
only
local
law
enforcement.
We
work
with
sheriffs
and
chiefs.
We
work
with
the
federal
law
enforcement
fbi,
dhs
that
are
in
this
area,
as
well
as
well
as
all
criminal
justice
agencies
which
encompass
about
135
agencies
through
to
the
department
of
public
safety.
O
This
is
senator
dennis
and
I
I
one
thing
I
wanted
to
add
as
I
as
he
was
talking.
I
reminded
me,
you
know
in
the
past
when
I've
worked
with
public
safety
folks
on
on
issues.
Well,
the
one
thing
that
they
always
talk
about
is
they
want
to
be
able
to
identify
the
person
that
they're
talking
to.
So,
if
somehow
you
have
forgotten
your
license,
but
you
have
you
hardly
ever
forget
your
phone.
O
Q
Thank
you,
ma'am,
chair
and
sorry
to
start
to
drag
this
out
just
to
peak
my
curiosity
from
the
last
set
of
questions
and
from
a
law
enforcement
standpoint
and
and
kind
of
on
simon
jaeger's
question
is
you
know
how
it
would
look,
it's
not
going
to
be
a
photo
of
your
id.
It
could
conceivably
be
an
app
and
that
that
somebody
would
automatically
verify,
and
this
might
be
more
towards
dmv,
but
from
the
police
standpoint.
Q
You
know
immediately
and
in
the
same
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
more
of
a
statement,
maybe
a
question
and
the
way
I
understand
it,
too,
is,
if
I
just
say
I
I
don't
have
an
electronic
version
I
fly
to
wherever
I
lose,
I'm
a
victim
of
a
crime
and
I
lose
my
wallet
or
whatever
you
can
conceivably
send
me
an
electronic
copy.
O
O
Q
K
Q
You
know
just
a
last
follow-up,
I
think
it's,
I
think
it's
a
great
idea.
It's
very
innovative.
It
definitely
moves
in
the
direction
that
we
need
to
to
get
away
from
you
guys
being
able
to
have
to
see
so
many
customers
in-house.
If
you
have
the
ability
to
do
this
online,
I
think
it's
fantastic
and
I
fully
support
it.
Thank
you.
A
M
B
B
Thank
you
so
much.
I
I
really
like
this
bill,
I'm
coming
from
a
blind
perspective
or
a
disability
perspective.
It's
useful
because
all
of
us,
those
that
have
smartphone,
use
their
phone
instead
of
if
a
person
have
several
policy.
I
have
friends
who
have
that
who
have
several
policy
it's
hard
for
them
to
reach
into
their
backpack
when
their
pca
is
not
their
personal
care
attendant
is
not
there
so
and
they
have
their
phone
under
their
phone
handle
on
their
chair,
so
they
get
to
flick
and
and
get
their
id
and
present
it.
B
Sorry,
a
state
id
I'm
not
legally,
I
don't
legally
drive,
but
my
dog
when
we
go
to
the
mv,
my
dog
would
just
cut
through
lines
and-
and
I
think
I
get
a
lot
of
mean
looks
but
as
a
blind
as
a
bliss,
I
can't
see
so
I
think
this
is
a
really
innovative
idea
and
thank
you
so
much
for
presenting
it.
Thank
you
have
a
great
day.
A
O
Just
a
couple,
quick
ones.
I
know
we
focused
a
lot
on
the
driver's
license
and
when,
oh
sorry,
senator
dennis
for
the
record,
when
you
know
during
the
pandemic,
trying
to
just
take
care
of
things
with
the
dmv,
I
had
to
do
several
things
and
and
as
you
and
and
having
a
son
who
was
trying
to
get
a
driver's
permit
and
the
documents
that
are
required,
especially
with
the
real
id.
That's.
O
What
really
was
of
interest
to
me
to
be
able
to
figure
out
ways
that
we
can
do
that
without
without
having
to
physically
go
down
and
present
like
a
an
official
birth
certificate
and
those
kind
of
things
so
by
having
this
electronic
technology
available
to
us
in
the
future
be
able
to
tie
into
a
lot
of
different
things
that
will
allow
for
that,
and
I
think
what
really,
when
the
dmv,
when
we
were
talking
about
this,
the
one
thing
that
had
just
happened
is
costco
had
just
switched.
O
They
had
an
app
and
they
switched
their
app
now,
so
that
you
can
use
their
their
electronic
version
and,
and
so
we're
starting
to
see
this
more
and
more
with.
So
so
it's
not
an
necessarily
a
new
concept
and
by
the
time
it
gets
developed
it'll
be
something
that
people
will
be
demanding
so
we're
just
trying
to
get
hold
of
the
curve
and
ahead
of
the
curve
and
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
come
present
the
bill
and
urge
your
support.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
presentation
of
wave
of
the
future.
The
way
we're
going,
it's
good
to
see
you
in
person
and
with
that
we
will
close
the
hearing
on
senate
bill
204
and
we
will
open
the
hearing
on
our
final
bill
of
today,
which
is
senate
bill
58
and
I
believe
our
presenters
are
joining
us
virtually.
A
R
Thank
you
good
afternoon,
chair
monroe,
moreno
and
committee
members
for
the
record,
I'm
patrick
conway
division
chief
for
the
investigation
division
of
the
department
of
public
safety.
The
intent
of
senate
bill
58
is
to
update
statutory
language
that
delineates
the
investigation,
division's
duties
and
responsibilities
in
order
to
ensure
compliance
with
the
existing
mandates
and
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
various
entities
that
occasionally
require
or
request
investigative
assistance.
R
The
division
routinely
receives
such
requests
and
provides
assistance.
Historically,
however,
the
division
has
received
requests
for
assistance
from
various
other
state
agencies
and
entities.
These
can
frequently
involve
threats
against
state
officials,
employees
or
facilities
fraudulent
transactions
involving
public
monies
or
conflicts
of
interest.
For
the
requesting
agency
over
its
history
and
where
no
other
option
existed,
the
division
has
provided
these
agencies
that
assistance.
R
The
proposed
changes
outlined
in
sb
58
provide
clarification
as
to
the
division's
role
in
providing
investigative
assistance
and
who
can
request
such
assistance
and
the
changes
enable
various
state
agencies
and
entities
that
might
otherwise
have
no
capability
to
conduct
such
investigations.
The
ability
to
ask
for
help,
specifically
the
changes,
specify
that
the
division
will
provide
investigative
services
to
the
heads
of
certain
state
agencies
upon
request.
R
The
division
will
investigate
certain
technological
crimes
and
enforce
provisions
of
law
relating
to
technological
crimes,
and
the
division
will
provide
investigative
services
upon
request
to
certain
state
agencies
in
criminal
investigations
relating
to
cannabis.
The
changes
also
enable
the
director
of
public
safety
to
efficiently
use
available
department
resources.
This
concludes
my
testimony
on
sb58.
F
Thank
you
chair,
and
this
is
a
really
interesting
bill
because
in
part,
I
don't
have
that
much
background
in
the
work
you
do
with
other
agencies.
So
it's
interesting
to
see
that
you
in
existing
statue
are
limited
to
working
with
who
was
at
the
department
or
the
ag,
and
I
don't
have
in
front
of
oh
and
any
sheriff
or
or
chief
of
police
or
district
attorney
in
reading
this,
though,
I
am
curious,
you
said
a
little
bit
about
that.
Your
agency
does
offer
these
services
as
kind
of
a
last
resort.
F
R
R
In
this
past
year
year
and
a
half
with
some
of
the
things
that
have
gone
on,
we
have
helped
other
state
agencies,
with
investigations
involving
complaints
that
have
risen
more
to
the
level
of
actual
threats
against
people
or
facilities
and
in
those
instances,
a
lot
of
times.
R
The
administrators
of
those
state
entities
are
searching
for
who's
going
to
help
us
with
this,
and
they
get
bounced
around
quite
a
bit,
and
so
what
we
do
is
when
they
ask
and
again
the
key
factor
here
is:
it
would
always
be
based
upon
requests.
The
division
just
doesn't
move
in
and
decide
it's
going
to
do
something.
If
somebody
asked
for
help-
and
that
is
a
reasonable
request,
then
we
would
step
in
and
give
them
that
assistance,
rather
than
have
them
searching
around
for
days
or
weeks,
trying
to
find
somebody
to
assist
them.
F
Yeah,
I
have
a
follow-up.
Thank
you,
so
I
I'm
wondering
in
some
of
these
cases
and
I'm
thinking
about
and
here
that,
specifically
the
department
of
taxation
has
called
up
and
are
called
out
in
the
division
of
public
and
behavioral
health
and
the
cannabis
compliance
board
and
then
technology
related
crimes.
F
I
am
wondering
about
your
this
bill's
enabling
language
regarding
the
jurisdiction
of
your
office,
so
in
the
department
of
taxation
they
have
existing
language
about
what
is
what
they
investigate
and
what
they
don't
investigate
from
due
to
licenses
and
the
agreements
that
are
made
between
those
parties.
Would
that
be
where
you
could?
R
I
think
it
could.
It
could
involve
any
of
those
things,
but
only
if
the
agency
itself
contacted
us
and
said
hey,
we
could
use
some
help,
for
example,
what
taxation
and
regulatory
investigative
processes
that
they
normally
engage
in.
I
would
not
expect
that
they
would
ever
ask
us
to
assist
them
with
that.
If,
in
the
course
of
a
regulatory
investigation,
someone
at
taxation
discovered,
I
can't
even
think
of
an
example,
but
something
that
was
criminal
in
nature
that
went
beyond
what
they
normally
would
address.
F
Thank
you
for
that
clarification,
and,
and
just
in
reading
this
it
says
the
investigation
division
shall
and
then
upon
request,
assist,
and
I
just
I
I
worry
about
the
openness
of
that
and
for
expanded
access
to
your
your
division
and
in
a
in
a
scenario
where
there's
just
maybe
not
the
right
number
of
people
in
each
of
these
departments
or
divisions,
other
divisions
and
kind
of
shifting
the
burden
of
their
job
onto
you.
So
I
would
just
be
curious
to
think
about
whether
there's
an
out
for
you
to
say.
F
R
When
those
folks
ask
us
for
assistance,
we
always
have
a
conversation
with
them
about
what
that
insist,
assistance
would
entail,
and
then
we
have
a
request
for
assistance
form
that
we
complete
in
conjunction
with
them
to
specifically
state
what
it
is
that
is
being
requested,
and
there
are
occasions
when,
during
those
conversations
we
will
say
this
is
better
handled
a
different
way
by
you
or
by
someone
else.
It's
not
that
I.
R
I
really
want
to
be
clear
that
this
is
not
intended
to
be
some
absolute,
that
that
the
investigation
division
then
steps
in
to
somebody
else's
business.
We
want
to
just
be
available,
should
the
need
arise
and
it
has-
and
it
has
been
arising
more
and
more
frequently,
and
we
provide
assistance
now
and
have
not
had
problems
where
there's
conflicts
with
existing
operations.
That's
not
the
intent.
L
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
the
presentation
and
bringing
the
bill.
I
just
have
a
quick
question
in
section
two,
where
we're
talking
about
polygraph
instruments,
and
I
see
there,
it
looks
like
where
things
are
now.
They
can
only
be
used
at
the
office
of
the
attorney
general
or
sheriff
chief
and
police
or
district
attorney.
R
L
Okay,
so
my
actual
question
here
is
in
so
now
it
looks
like
we're
expanding
that
to
all
government.
I
mean
all
agencies
to
be
able
to.
I
guess
is
it
request
the
service
or
administer
the
service,
or
if
you
can
clarify
that,
yes,
they
could
request
the
service
if
they
wanted
do
and
in
fact.
R
L
So-
and
just
one
last
point
here,
so
I'm
a
bit-
I
guess
concerned
when
we
consider
that
the
accuracy
and
some
of
the
bias
issues
with
polygraphs
that
we
are
essentially
expanding
the
use
of
them
is
there
a
reason
that
that
needs
to
be
expanded.
R
Service
or
operation
that
would
be
if
somebody
were
willing
or
wished,
to
engage
in
a
polygraph
with
respect
to
polygraphs
that
we
offer
for
pre-employment
that
that
might
be
a
condition
of
employment
for
a
specific
agency,
and
then
we
would
offer
that
does
that,
am
I
making
sense
so
we're
not
going
to
be
compelling
people
to
take
polygraphs,
especially
with
respect
to
criminal
investigations
that
we
engage
in
it
would
be
a
service
that
would
be
available
if
somebody
wished
to
take
or
submit
to
a
polygraph
or
offered
to
do
that.
L
P
C
J
You
vice
chair
watson,
just
a
quick
follow-up
on
assemblyman
miller's
question,
so
the
agencies
that
are
being
included
that
can
use
your
services
when
it
comes
to
polygraphs
are
the.
I
would
assume
those
agencies
are
using.
Are
they
paying
outside
people
now,
if
they're
in
situations
where
employees
or
other
folks
are
taking
polygraphs,
do
you
know
like
where
they
go
for
those
services?
Q
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
our
vice
chairman,
so
a
couple
questions
in
section
one
so
the
first
part
you're
expanding
your
investigative
authority.
Currently
you
just
do
five,
four,
five,
four
five,
four
and
four
five,
three,
and
so
now
you're
expanding
your
responsibilities
to
investigate
technological
crime.
Q
R
Actually,
in
the
I'm
sorry
again,
pat
conway
for
the
record
in
the
last
legislative
session,
some
statutes
were
passed
that
that
required
the
investigation
division
to
conduct
some
business
in
conjunction
with
the
cyber
defense,
the
office
of
cyber
defense,
and
so
this
language
in
this
bill
is
just
trying
to
get
us
together,
so
that
what
what
another
statute
is
telling
us
to
do.
Q
Thank
you
so
you're
already
performing
some
of
these
duties
required
by
other
parts
of
statute.
This
just
cleans
that
up
so
the
second
question
would
be
the
the
additional
assistance
to
the
other
portions
of
state
government.
You
and
you
talk
about
that
you're
already
doing
some
of
that
too,
and
you
know-
and
I
I
see
the
cannabis
compliance
board
and
some
of
the
investigations
that
that
they
may
need
to
do.
Q
Is
there,
like
a
shortage
of
you,
guys,
have
a
shortage
of
work
that
you're
expanding
into
other
places
of
the
state
or
into
other
crimes,
and
just
kind
of
curious
on
your
current
caseload
and
in
two
years
from
now
in
ways
and
means.
You
know
we
see
this
as
a
budget
expansion
or
for
more
people,
because
we
authorized
an
expansion
of
your
of
your
responsibilities.
R
There's
no
shortage
of
work,
but
I
would
I
want
to
be
clear
that
even
today
that
my
intent
or
the
idea
of
this
bill
is
sort
of
to
bring
things
in
line
with
what
actually
occurs
even
today.
So
I
don't
anticipate
that
the
additional
duties
outlined
in
this
bill
are
going
to
increase
workload
significantly
because
these
entities
come
to
us
now
because
they
don't
have
anywhere
else
to
go.
R
If
that
makes
sense,
and
so
I
I'm
trying
to
just
ensure
that
the
statutory
language
is
kind
of
in
line
with
what
we've
been
more
or
less
forced
to
view
in
order
to
help
folks
out
okay,
they
need
to
have
this.
C
A
Thank
you
so
much
see
no
one
on
the
phone
I'll
ask
you.
If
you
have
any
final
remarks
for
the
committee
before
we
close
the
hearing
on
senate
bill,
no.
R
I
just
thank
pat
conley
for
the
record,
just
thank
the
committee
for
its
time.
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
joining
us
and
for
the
presentation
and
with
that
we'll
close
the
hearing
on
senate
bill
58
and
members.
That
brings
us
to
the
last
item
on
our
agenda
for
today,
and
that
is
public
comment,
alaska,
our
broadcast
staff.
Do
we
have
anyone
wishing
to
provide
public
comment
before
we
adjourn
today.