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A
Commissioner,
spitz
is
a
medical
excuse,
he's
on
listening,
but
he
will
be
a
presenter
on
the
gypsy
moth
resolution.
So
everybody
knows,
could
you
call
the
roll
please.
B
Yes,
charles.
F
F
A
And
justice
for
us
all
right
now
we
have
the
approval
of
the
minutes.
Minutes
stated
december,
1st
2021
moved
by
commissioner
markham
seconded
by
commissioner
wiper,
a
voice
vote
all
in
favor,
say
hi
opposed
eyes.
Have
it.
Now
we
have
approval
of
the
agenda.
A
You
know
motion
motion
moved
by
commissioner
charles
seconded
by
commissioner
markham,
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye,
aye
all
opposed
eyes.
Have
it
communications.
We
have
no
communications
at
this
time.
I'm
sorry
I've
jumped
over
at
this
time.
We'll
have
public
comment.
I
do
apologize
for
our
10
minutes
tardiness
on
today,
but
I
thank
you
for
your
patience.
A
G
Good
morning,
commissioners,
my
name
is
catherine
kennedy
from
lake
orion
and
I
would
welcome
happy
new
year
first
of
all,
and
I
would
urge
that
you
approve
on
the
regular
agenda
the
facilities
maintenance
for
the
building
renovation
project
for
the
sheriff,
so
they
have
an
appropriate
place
to
do
their
work.
G
G
So
I
would
applaud
and
encourage
that
this
is
moved
forward
and
no
complications
to
get
that
promoted
for
the
sheriff's
department.
I
think
they
absolutely
need
that
and
the
fact
that
it
also
provides
additional
storage
for
other
divisions
could
be
very
useful
and
might
not
even
might
even
eliminate
the
some
other
areas
that
are
leased
separately.
H
Good
morning
my
name
is
heather
smiley,
I'm
from
lake
orion.
I
do
a
voice
similar.
You
know
my
thoughts
as
far
as
oakland
county.
I
think
that
you
guys
do
a
great
job
of
sticking
up
for
the
oakland
county
sheriff,
so
I
have
no
problems.
I
think
that
everything
will
go
along
fine
as
far
as
you
know,
their
needs
and
whatnot
you
guys
are
very
reasonable.
I
do
also
see
that
we're
talking
about
the
gypsy
moths.
H
As
a
naturalist
background,
I
did
want
to
just
kind
of
confirm
that
we
have
a
more
natural
look
at
it.
I
know
a
lot
of
chemicals
and
pesticides,
but
those
also
kill
butterflies,
other
moths
other,
like
bees,
things
that
nature
that
we
need
for
pollination
pollination
species.
So
I
didn't
see-
or
maybe
I
just
missed
it,
which
is
very
possible
it's
early
in
the
morning.
I
don't
have
my
quota
that
we
have
a
natural
version.
You
know
something
that
is
not
a
pesticide
that
we
can
use
as
an
option
for
areas.
H
I
Good
morning
my
name
is
sandra
carlion
and
I'm
from
novi
gwen's
district.
I
also
support
the
renovation
of
the
pontiac
health
center
for
better
usage
and
protection
of
evidence.
I
think
it's
good
use
of
funds
and
well
everyone
enjoys
receiving
grants,
loans
and
funding.
I
do
want
to
warn
our
commissioners
that
sometimes
free
money
has
strings
attached.
I
I
did
find
it
hard
to
understand
why,
almost
with
almost
a
year
of
public
comments
and
people
coming
physicians,
people
from
osha
nurses,
health
care
workers
that
the
concerns
about
this
mask
wearing
when
the
evidence
does
not
show
that
it's
effective
in
situations,
especially
those
little
blue
paper
ones
from
china,
and-
and
I
couldn't
understand
that
until
I
read
that
that
every
six
every
six
months
through
september,
2023
to
get
billions
in
federal
government
funding,
all
the
school
boards
must
do
is
prove
that
they
are
complying
to
the
set
requirements
like
masking
the
children,
distancing,
contact,
tracing,
etc
to
receive
this
funding.
I
So
that
explains
the
school
board's
stance.
It's
recommended
to
stop
wasting
time,
we're
we're
we're
gonna
yeah,
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna,
try
to
have
a
look
at
how
much
money
is
coming
to
our
county
or
the
school
districts
and
where
this
money
is
going
and
ask
them
to
take
back,
send
back
this
money
or
not
accept
these
grants
that
have
these
unscientific,
not
science-based
requirements.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
all
right
is
anybody
else
on
public
comments
to
speak.
Anybody
want
to
speak
for
public
comment
going
once
going
twice.
We'll
call
public
comment
closed
at
this
time.
Thank
you
for
those
who
spoke
at
this
time
communications.
We
do
not
have
any
communications.
Now
we
have
the
consent
agenda,
which
is
road
improvement,
fiscal
year
2022
appropriation
with
the
charter,
township
of
west
bloomfield
for
tri-party
road
improvement
program,
project
number
55041,
and
then
we
have
road
improvement.
A
Fiscal
year,
2022
appropriation
with
the
city
of
wixom
for
tri-party
road
improvement
program,
project
number,
five,
six,
five,
six
one:
a
move
by
commissioner
wiper
senator
general
seconded
by
commissioner
markham.
We
need
to
vote
on
this
one
yeah.
Did
we
do?
What
do
you
feel
prompt?
The
vote,
I
was
gonna,
say,
call
the
vote
but
prompt
the
vote.
Please.
A
Thank
you
motion
carries
so
now
we're
at
our
regular
agenda.
Our
first
agenda
item
is
facilities,
maintenance
and
operation
resolution,
pontiac
health
center
building
renovation
project.
We
have
newly
undersheriff
charles
childs
here
and
ed
joss
welcome
good
morning
good
morning.
Oh
I'm
sorry.
We
have
to
do
a
motion.
I'm
sorry,
I'm
getting
all
excited
about
this
thing.
Motion
by
commissioner
markham
seconded
by
commissioner
wiper
good
morning.
B
So,
as
we
speak
here,
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
about
construction
and
timing.
As
you
mentioned,
we
also
have
undersheriff
childs
on
that
can
speak
to
you
know,
maybe
the
need
for
the
the
new
evidence.
Space
joining
us
also
is
aaron.
Quitel
aaron
is
our
new
environmental
sustainability
officer
she's
been
with
us,
I
think,
since
the
beginning
of
october,
but
as
you
may
have
seen
in
the
resolution,
we
are
implementing
some
sustainability
items,
including
solar
panels,
on
the
roof
to
provide
some
portion
of
the
energy.
B
J
J
I
believe
everyone's
seen
the
videos
previously
from
pipes
bursting
or
the
rain,
and
the
issues
we've
had
with
property
and
evidence
storage
in
the
basement
of
the
jail,
and
we
want
to
just
get
away
from
that,
get
it
to
a
better
facility
where
we
can
maintain
the
evidence
properly
and
not
have
any
issues
with
any
pending
cases,
and
then
we
would
end
up
you
know,
potentially
using
the
current
area
for
non-essential,
storage
for
jail
supplies
or
whatever
we
can
use
it
for,
but
we
really
need
to
get
the
property
room
out
here.
A
C
E
Yeah
good
morning,
everybody
help
happy
new
year
to
everyone.
I'd
have
to
be
happy
to
answer
that
question.
As
the
project
manager
for
the
project,
our
intent
would
be
to
start
once
approved
seed
due
to
the
chaotic
nature
of
the
construction
industry.
We'll
have
to
go
out
for
re-bid
with
our
general,
our
construction
manager.
E
So
that
being
said,
we
anticipate
that,
taking
about
a
month
to
two
months
to
be
able
to
pull
the
numbers
together
and
align
all
subcontractors,
and
so
with
that
in
mind,
we
would
expect
that
we'd
be
able
to
start
construction
sometime
in
the
spring
early
spring
if
possible,
and
we're
slating
thinking
that
it's
going
to
be
about
nine
month.
Construction
window.
A
All
right
and
we'll
say,
through
the
authority
of
the
chair
of
allowing
commissioner
spitz
to
comment
on
this.
K
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
to
follow
up
on
glenn's
question.
You
mentioned
that
you
have
to
go
out
for
rebid.
Do
we
expect
the
numbers
to
change
much
based
on
that
rebid?
I
know
there's
a
20
contingency
in
here,
or
will
that
be
enough
to
suffice
with
any
fluctuations
in
the
marketplace
that
I
know
we're
all
seeing
in
the
construction
industry.
E
E
We
go
back
to
the
original
couple
bidders
and
make
sure
that
they're
willing
to
qualify
and
get
to
the
original
estimate.
If
not,
then
we
will
evaluate
that
and
for
your
comment.
That
is
why
we
put
a
inflationary
contingency
in
the
project
so
that
any
unforeseen
costs
due
to
the
nature
of
the
industry
will
be
covered
adequately.
K
Okay,
thank
you.
I
have
a
few
more
questions
and
focus
mostly
on
the
solar
panels,
but
before
I
ask
them
just
want
to
say,
you
know,
I'm
glad
to
see
we're
looking
at
different
alternative
alternate
energy
sources,
but
with
that
comes
some
other
questions
that
I
will
have
one
since
we're
redoing
the
roof.
Is
the
roof
structurally
sound
enough
to
take
the
120
panels.
E
K
Good
to
hear
out
of
the
with
the
120
panels
that
we're
putting
up.
What's
the
percent
consumption
that
we're
going
to
use
of
solar
versus.
E
As
with
all
buildings,
all
commercial
buildings,
there
are
energy
hogs,
so
the
solar
panels
then
participate
providing
15
of
the
building
required
loads.
So
thus
we're
not
going
to
have
any
formula
battery
backup
system,
because
the
building
will
utilize
every
kilowatt,
energy
of
solar
energy
provided.
K
K
E
So
with
the
idea
that
the
lifespan
is
20
25
years,
that
is,
with
the
intent
that
you
oftentimes
will
get
additional
use
out
of
them,
meaning
they
might
be
degraded
to
a
lower
percentage
of
energy
consumption,
meaning
producing
so
they'll
still
be
able
to
be
in
use.
So
when
you
get
down
to
that
25-year
mark
you're
looking
at
re-evaluating,
does
it
make
sense
to
find
new
technology
replaced
or
are
they
still
performing
properly?
So
that
being
said,
based
on
the
current
roi,
which
is
an
estimated
ri,
we're
looking
at
22
years.
K
Great
thank
you.
Do
we
have
a
plan
in
place,
and
maybe
this
is
a
better
question
for
aaron
welcome.
First
time
I
get
I
get
to
want
to
meet
you.
Do
we
have
a
plan
in
place
to
track
what
we
call
the
efficiency
or
the
usage
of
our
solar
panels
and
everything
else
we're
going
with
the
renewable
energy
across
the
county.
E
K
That's
good
to
hear
is
that
something
that
we
could
potentially
have
shared
with
the
board
of
commissioners?
I
think
glenn
would
want
to
see
the
same
information.
You
know
being
an
engineer.
I
like
data,
so
I'd
like
to
see
that
information,
I'm
not
sure
what
the
canes
would
be.
Is
it
every
six
months?
Is
it
once
a
year?
I
don't
need
to
see
it
every
month,
but
that's
probably
over,
but
maybe
every
six
months
to
a
year.
If
we
could
see
that
report,
that
would
be
good.
B
If
I
can
just
add
to
that,
to
reassure
you,
commissioner,
spizz
and
aaron
you're
welcome
to
jump
in
if
you'd
like,
but
we've
been
working
very
closely
with
aaron,
and
she
is
a
scientist
and
extremely
data
driven
on
everything
that
we
do.
So
there
is
no
doubt
that
we
will
not
be
moving
forward
with
anything
without
having
all
of
the
metrics
in
place
and
in
recording
and
knowing
what
we're
doing
so
that
you
know
we
can.
We
can
move
forward
in
the
most
efficient
manner.
K
Great
good
to
hear
my
final
question,
which
might
be
confusing
because
it's
confusing
the
first
time
since
we're
gonna
do
100
consumption,
we're
going
to
use
100
consumption
of
solar
energy
during
the
summer
when
we
have
the
longer
days-
and
I
don't
know
this
for
sure-
so
maybe
undersheriff
childs
can
jump
in
here
too.
Are
they
going
to
be
working
two
shifts
at
this
site
in
the
future?
K
J
Lieutenant
jacobs
might
be
able
to
answer
that
better.
My
understanding,
it's
mostly
day
shift.
I
do
know
one
of
the
people
assigned
there.
I
believe
works
10
hour
shifts,
so
she
works
a
little
later
into
the
day
I
believe,
but
for
the
property
room,
it's
mostly
days
for
the
evidence
now,
when
our
deputies
have
to
drop
property
off
that's
all
time.
That's
all
time
of
the
day
you
know
night
whenever,
depending
on
what
the
case
is
and
what
they're
bringing
up
so
from
that
standpoint,
we
do
use
it
24
7..
J
E
K
L
L
So
I'm
hoping
moving
forward
that
we
don't
have
that
happen
where,
if
you've,
I
mean
we're
one
of
the
wealthiest
counties
in
the
country,
there's
no
reason
for
our
sheriff's
department,
who
is
like
a
major
portion
of
our
budget
to
be
working
in
poor
condition.
So
I
mean
that
just
to
me
is
a
no-brainer
and
it's
a
bad
look
and
again
I
don't
like
to
have
that
happen
here.
So
a
question
about
the
who's,
the
people.
L
B
Yeah
sure
so
in-house
staff
would
include
some
of
the
skilled
trades
that
we
have
within
facilities
management
that
we
employ
on
staff,
like
maybe
the
the
electricians
that
we
have.
It
would
also
include
you
know,
folks,
from
our
safety
division
that
provide
you
know,
card
readers,
cameras
as
well
as
our
information
technology
department.
So
those
are
the
the
in-house
staff
that
are
referenced
and
then
to
your
you
know
your
comment
about.
You
know
this
being
a
need.
Yes,
yes,
we
totally
understand.
We
hear
you
loud
and
clear.
B
This
is
a
project
that
we've
been
working
with
the
sheriff's
office
for
for
quite
some
time
now,
unfortunately,
it's
taken
longer
that
than
we'd
like.
B
I
can
tell
you
that
with
the
the
new
administration
that
things
like
this,
I
find
are
happening
quicker
and
easier
so,
but
we're
all
hoping
that
that
trend
continues.
You
know
the
issues
that
we've
had
over
there
have
been.
B
M
B
Yeah
sure
so
we
do
have
you
know
a
list
of
annual
contractors
for
for
everything
that
we
do,
every
trade,
every
profession,
every
maintenance
need-
and
in
this
case
we
are
utilizing
an
annual
architecture
firm
that
produced.
You
know
the
design
and
the
plans
for
us,
as
well
as
an
annual
construction
manager.
B
Now
there
are
times
when,
when
projects
are
larger
and
more
complex,
that
we'll
we'll
competitively
bid
those
again
because
these
annual
contracts
are
competitively
bid,
but
in
this
case,
because
the
project
exceeds
the
250
000
threshold,
although
we
are
working
with
an
annual
construction
manager
that
construction
manager
is
required
to
follow
our
purchasing
rules
and
those
rules.
B
The
the
250
000
rule
that
I'm
referring
to
actually
came
about
through
a
resolution
that
was
adopted
by
the
board.
I
believe,
commissioner
miller
I
I
know
you
were
very
very
involved
in
that,
but
so
so,
with
this
construction
manager,
they
are
required
to
follow
those
same
rules.
So
all
of
the
subcontractors
that
will
perform
the
work
on
this
will
be
competitively
good.
M
Okay,
thank
you,
and
could
I
ask
one
more
yeah
you
got
the
floor.
Thank
you
aaron.
Can
you
just
give
us
30
seconds
of
time,
since
this
is
like
our
first
official
meeting
in
this
conference
room?
If
you
will
about
this
sort
of
thing,
what
I
mean,
what
should
we
expect
out
of
you
now
that
you're
coming
here
for
this
sort
of
stuff.
J
I
was
hoping
to
have
a
little
bit
more
formal
presentation,
but
this
kind
of
came
up,
so
I'm
here
to
present
just
to
answer
questions
for
this
program
and
I
think
in
the
future,
similar
type
of
expectations.
For
me,
I
provide
technical
expertise
for
certain
projects,
certainly
working
with
ed
and
his
team
on
a
variety
of
different
facilities
and
operations.
Programs.
J
You
know
we're
working
with
aecom
right
now
on
the
kansas
sustainability
plan,
and
so
we're
going
to
be
seeing
a
lot
more
from
from
that
team
and
for
me
moving
forward
as
far
as
what
that
looks
like
some
of
the
goals,
the
visions,
the
opportunities
and
recommendations
from
that
program
and
really
looking
forward
to
working
with
everyone
and
progressing
sustainability
oklahoma
county.
So
I
think
that
that's
what
we
can
expect
from
you
in
the
near
future.
As
far
as
updates
and
interactions.
B
J
Yeah-
and
I
think
that
one
of
the
other
things
that
you
can
look
for
you
know
too
is
we
are
looking
at
our
policies
as
well
and
so
to
the
point
of
different
projects
coming
up.
A
A
So
I
just
have
a
couple
questions.
I
appreciate
you
guys
having
a
meeting
with
me
before
this.
It
was
last
week
of
the
week
before
to
go
over
it.
The
couple
questions
I
have
is
so
with
the
solar
panels
is:
what's
the
is
there?
What's
the
warranty
on
it?
I
know
they're
good
for
20
25
years,
but,
as
I
know
in
our
facilities
is
we
have
like
the
led
lights
and
there's
always
a
warranty
with
the
the
unit
or
what
have
you
right?
So
is
there
a
warranty
with
this.
E
Yes,
there
is
a
warranty.
I
would
have
to
dig
back
into
the
information
to
confirm
that
I
want
to
say
it's
a
minimum
of
10
years,
but
I'd
like
to
confirm
that
before
I
speak.
A
So
what
commissioner
spitz
brought
it
up
with
like
if
nobody's
here?
I
believe
what
the
evidence
I
have
represented
the
dia
before
is.
We
have
to
keep
the
evidence,
probably
at
a
certain
certain
temperature.
I'm
sure
right
I
mean
it's
probably
not
as
like
particular,
but
you
have
to
keep
it
heated
and
cooled
during
the
season,
so
it
doesn't
overheat
or
over
cool
right.
I
would
just
assume
that
would
be
and
then
the
moisture
same
thing,
that's
why
we're
getting
out
of
the
basement.
A
So
I
just,
I
believe,
that's
one
reason
why
what
we'd
use
the
energy
when
nobody's
there,
whether
it's
at
night
or
in
the
summer
time?
What
have
you?
A
The
last
thing
is
just
the
commissioner
charles
comment
about
yeah.
We
always
support
these
initiatives.
I
don't
remember
this
ever
coming
to
the
board
before
in
the
last
three
years,
but
I
do
know
like
there's
been
flooding.
That's
all
infrastructure
right.
Our
buildings
are
old,
so
you
can't
say
when
it
happens
right
and
then
then,
to
find
what's
the
solution
and
where
to
do,
do
we
build
something
new?
Do
we
use
something
existing?
A
A
Now
our
next!
Thank
you
now.
Our
next
agenda
item
is
board
of
commissioners.
Other
action
discussion
regarding
oakland
county
invasive
moth
program.
We
do
have
commissioner
spitz
as
a
presenter,
so
he
will
be
speaking
on
this,
because
this
is
his.
I
call
it
his
baby
right
he's
him
and
commissioner
gershon.
So
first
we
need
to
move
it.
A
K
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
think
everyone
may
or
may
not
remember,
because
it
took
commissioner
miller
and
I
a
few
seconds
to
recall
everything
after
the
holiday
break,
but
we
have
approved
this.
It
has
been
to
the
board
and
it
has
been
approved.
The
250
000
has
been
allocated
and
the
overall
generic
plan
has
been
approved
by
the
board
to
allow
up
to
thirty
thousand
dollars
for
each
community.
That
applies.
I
know
that
msu
extension
and
a
few
others
have
gone
out
to
the
communities
for
training.
So
that's
all
taking
place.
K
The
next
steps
we
need
to
figure
out
is
how
do
the
communities
apply
and
do
we
set
up
a
small
subcommittee
to
review
those
applications
and
bring
them
back
to
this
board
for
approval
so
that
we
can
get
this
project
moving?
We
need
to
get
in
front
in
front
of
this,
so
we
need
to
prepare
for
the
spring
and
I
don't
remember
the
exact
date,
and
I
don't
know
if
anyone
from
msu
extension
is
outlined
with
us
yeah
we
have
oh
yeah.
There
is
sorry.
K
N
Yes,
so
we're
we're
hoping
to
be
able
to
conduct
the
spray
in
late
march
early
april.
That's
the
optimum
timing
to
hit
the
caterpillars
at
the
appropriate
stage
in
their
life
cycle,
for
it
to
be
most
effective,
and
so
everything
that
we're
working
on
right
now
is
with
that
goal
in
mind.
N
I
do
want
to
address
the
the
question
commissioner
spitz
had
regarding
the
substance
we
used
to
spray
and
also
the
public
comment,
the
substance
that
we,
our
spray
programs
use
for
aerial
spray,
is
not
chemical.
It
is
a
concentration
of
a
naturally
occurring
bacteria
that
occurs
naturally
in
the
soil.
It
does
not
harm
other
insects
and
animals.
K
Great,
thank
you.
So
the
next
episode
I
believe
connie
may
have
sent
you
some
questions
also
from
a
contract
standpoint.
We
need
to
do.
We
need
to
have
a
contract
with
msu
extension,
or
do
we
already
have
one,
since
we
do
other
business
within
the
msu
extension
on
this
topic.
N
We
do
have
a
current
contract
for
msu
extension
services
as
a
whole,
but
my
recommendation
is
a
separate
professional
services
contracts
to
cover
the
administrative
fee
for
this
program,
we're
looking
at
a
an
administrative
fee
of
35
000
that
will
provide
for
us
to
be
able
to
staff
all
the
different
measures
that
we're
taking
so
we've.
As
you
mentioned,
we
have
already
conducted
a
couple
of
training
sessions
for
municipal
staff.
N
N
We
do
not
so
one
of
the
questions
that
we
got
from
connie
was
around
existing
contracts
with
municipalities,
commissioner
spitz
and
just
so
to
kind
of
provide
some
context
for
that.
We
wouldn't
be
actually
contracting
with
individual
municipalities.
So
the
way
we
envision
this
process
happening
is
we're
providing
training
to
the
municipalities
to
be
able
to
survey
they'll
present
us
with
with
their
findings,
so
we'll
work
on
mapping
we'll
work
on
identifying
those
communities
and
that
acreage
that
meets
the
threshold
of
of
us
recommending
the
spray.
N
N
K
N
So
I've
already
provided
mike
keyes
with
a
boilerplate
contract
and
I
think
that
he
has
already
run
it
past,
corp,
council,
and
so
maybe
it's
there.
I
you
know
I
can
make
whatever
time
we
need
in
order
to
get
get
that
process.
You
know
sped
up.
We
can
do
that
once
once
it's
finished
with
whatever
changes
and
things
need
to
happen
on
the
oakland
county
end.
It's
probably
about
a
two
and
a
half
to
three
week
process
for
msu
internally
to
get
that
signed
and
executed.
N
I
we're
doing
the
work
right
now
we're
good
faith
partners,
and
so
you
know
I
just
want
to
reassure
everyone
of
that
we're
already
into
this,
and
so
I
don't
want
that
to
be.
You
know
anything
that
would
would
feel.
I
don't
want
anyone
to
feel
like
that's
something
that
would
slow
the
work
down.
A
Correct
any
public
comment
see
commissioner:
wiper
has
one.
B
D
Right
and
have
any
other
counties
done
this
reimbursable
grant
that
the
msu
knows
about
and
has
worked
or.
N
So
we've
had
a
gypsy
mouth
suppression
program
in
macomb
county
for
about
the
last
30
years.
In
some
cases,
some
oakland
county
communities
that
border
mccomb
have
even
participated.
N
Macomb
county
used
to
do
a
cost
share
with
their
municipalities,
but
they
do
not
currently,
but
it
was
very
successful
in
the
past.
So
yeah
you
know
it's.
I
think
it's
very
successful.
I
believe
at
this
point
in
time,
macomb
county
is
the
only
county
that
we
are
working
with,
that
does
an
active
spray
aerial
spray
program.
N
N
I
think
so
I
mean
we're,
like
I
said,
we're
engaged
in
the
work.
You
know
everything
else
is
kind
of
a
matter
of
paperwork,
even
establishing
the
parameters
for
the
submission
of
the
proposals.
We
have.
You
know,
research
that
lets
us
know
like
what
the
thresholds
need
to
be
based
on
the
survey
data.
That's
done
so
as
municipalities,
you
know,
submit
to
us.
D
And
just
in
a
lot
of
these
tracks
of
land
they're
going
to
be
multiple
cvts,
you
know.
Are
we
encouraging
the
cbts
to
work
together,
educating
them
in
such
a
way
that
you
know
milford
township
works
with
lyon
township,
since
it's
a
lot
of
vacant
land.
N
No,
that
hasn't
necessarily
been
the
approach
we've
we've
been
reaching
out
to
and
educating
cvts
individually.
So
you
know:
they've
sent
representatives
to
our
our
training
workshops
to
learn
to
survey
that
happened
all
together,
but
in
terms
of
sort
of
the
financial
approach
we
we
haven't
considered
that
so
that
might
be
something
that
that
the
subcommittee
can
consider
and
we'd
be
happy
to
communicate
that.
Okay,
thank
you.
L
Actually
mr
whiteboard
asked
my
question.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you.
Do
you
have
a
this
is
for
mr
scott,
do
you
have
an
an
assessment
of
which
communities
are
affected
by
this
oakland
county
is
a
big
place.
N
Yeah,
so
primarily
the
response
that
we've
gotten
thus
far
has
come
from
communities
further
to
the
north,
but
I
apologize.
I
don't
have
the
list
of
the
respondents
from
the
workshops
with
me,
but
there's
about
25
communities
that
have
responded
so
far
and
who
attended,
training
and
they're,
primarily
in
the
northern
part
of
the
county.
That
does
not
mean
that
gypsy
moth
is
not
present
elsewhere
right,
but
it
you
know
it
means.
Perhaps
it
hasn't
risen
to
the
level
of
people
complaining
and
wanting
to
take
action
about
it.
C
Okay,
my
other
question
is
related
to
the
report
that
says
it's
going
to
reduce
it
say
60
percent,
but
there
should
be
an
ongoing
program
to
monitor
and
continue
to
spray
if
necessary.
So
this
funding
is
this
just
for
this
year
and
then,
if
that
happens,
we'll
come
back
for
more
funding
next
year.
Is
that
what
you're?
Looking
at
yeah.
N
So
this
funding
was
set
aside
from,
I
believe,
a
special
projects
fund
that
that
exists.
I'm
not
familiar
with
all
the
inner
workings
right,
but
it
is
for
this
one
year
like,
like
you
just
said,
this
is
a
suppression
program,
not
an
elimination,
that's
virtually
impossible.
So
I
can
tell
you
from
past
experience.
N
What
we've
seen
is
that
what
typically
tends
to
happen
is
acreage
that
has
been
sprayed
does
not
see
a
recurrence
of
major
issues
from
gypsy
moth,
but
we
might
see
a
gypsy
moth
explosion
in
acreage
right
next
to
it
that
was
not
sprayed
in
the
previous
year
right.
So
it
makes
sense.
I
think,
from
a
practical
standpoint,
to
consider
this
a
multi-year
effort.
So
at
the
end
of
this
effort
you
know
we'll
prepare
a
report.
N
We'll
that'll
include
lists
of
all
the
communities
that
chose
to
engage
in
the
spray
program,
all
the
different
steps
we
took-
and
I
think
you
know
the
the
board
can
evaluate
that
report
and
decide
whether
or
not
it
was
a
worthwhile
investment.
You
know
based
on
kind
of
what's
what's
going
on
with
gypsy
moth
complaints
in
other
communities
and
if
the
board
sees
fit
to
dedicate
funding
in
further
years,
we'll
be
happy
to
work
with
them.
C
Okay,
thank
you
yeah.
This
is
being
funded
out
of
our
board
of
commissioners
special
projects.
So
if
we
were
going
to
look
at
it
being
a
long-term
thing,
it
should
fit
more
into
someplace
else
in
the
budget
as
a
regular
item.
But
for
this
year
to
get
us
started
and
to
see
how
it
works.
I
think
that's
a
good
use
of
our
special
projects
funding.
I.
N
Will
share
with
you
that
practice
in
macomb
county
for
several
years,
so
the
gypsy
moth
has
a
life
cycle.
They
typically
show
up
about
every
years.
Excuse
me
every
eight
years,
eight
to
ten
years
and
become
a
problem,
but
then
there's
some
some
years
of
relative
quiet
in
between
what
we
tried
to
do
in
macomb
county
was
every
year
when
we
did
not
have
a
gypsy
moth
issue.
The
county
set
aside.
N
A
All
right
any
other
discussion
from
the
questioners.
So
in
my
prior
life
I
was
a
exterminator
for
terminex
right,
so
not
promoting
or
anything
but
reminds
me
of
when
I
was
in
the
city
of
detroit
right.
You'd
you'd
have
extermination
on
one
house
and
all
the
cockroaches
would
go
to
the
next.
D
A
And
then
come
back
when
everything
was
clean
right,
you
literally,
you
could
see
them
crawling
over
the
fence,
that's
crazy!
So
that
reminds
me
when
you
said
the
next
one
is
like
flashbacks
off
yeah.
I
do
appreciate
this
and
that's
the
only
question
I
have.
If
there's
any
there's,
no
other
discussion
we'll
take
the
vote.
Trump.
A
Well,
I'm
sorry
yeah!
This
is
for
informational.
I
actually
so
I'm
setting
up
a
subcommittee
like
commission,
commissioner
spitz
said,
and
the
subcommittee
is
going
to
going
to
have
commissioner
marcia
gershenson
and
commissioner
spizz,
as
co-chairs
not
chair,
vice
chair
they're
both
going
to
be
co-chairs.
I
don't
feel
like
we
need
more
than
two
commissioners
on
this.
I
feel
like
they're,
the
ones
that
have
led
this
initiative
and
they'll
report
back
to
this
committee
and
we'll
report
back
to
the
board.
F
Miller
would
it
be
possible
to
structure
a
study
group
instead
of
a
subcommittee?
There
is
a
little
more
flexibility
just
wanted
to
offer
that
to
you.
K
Just
just
a
quick
question-
and
maybe
kind
of
you
can
help
answer
this:
how
did
we
do
the
my
road
improvement
program
or
the
drinking
fountain
program?
How
did
we
do
that.
F
Mike
andrews,
can
you
comment?
I
wasn't
involved
with
that
yeah
yeah,
so
we
did
set
up
subcommittees
for
that,
commissioner,
with
particular
one
from
what
I'm
reading
through
the
resolution
that
was
prior
approved.
Is
that
the
oversight
or
the
would
come
from
the
standing
committee
on
this,
but
it's
totally
up
to
the
committee
members
and
the
chair
on
how
they
want
to
set
up
any
kind
of
additional
oversight,
committees.
A
Appreciate
that
yeah
I
would,
I
would
stick
with
the
subcommittee
and
then
I
would
rely
on
commissioner
spitz
and
commissioner
gerschalsen
to
set
when
they're
going
to
meet
and
what
they're
going
to
talk
about,
and
then
they
can
report
back
to
us
as
the
the
or
the
committee
is
everybody.
Okay
with
that.
D
A
Okay,
all
right
and
then
I
think,
that's
yeah.
We
don't
have
to
vote
or
anything.
So
that's
appreciate
you
coming
and
if
there's
no
other
discussion
on
that
now
we're
to
our
public
comments.
A
Good
morning
we
start
good.
G
G
G
G
G
We
don't
control
those
minerals.
The
fact
that
the
cobalt
mine
in
the
congo
was
just
sold
to
china.
It
was
an
american
firm.
I
don't
know
how
that
got
finagle,
I'm
here
and
it
was
through
biden,
family
deals,
but
that's
another
very
serious
issue,
and
I
would
remind
people
that
rare
earth
minerals,
the
few
that
we
have
here
are
buried
under
our
pristine
upper
peninsula.
G
In
america,
we
exceeded
the
carbon
reductions
of
every
country
that
was
in
the
paris
accord,
while
we
were
not
in
the
paris
accord
through
innovation,
that
is
the
key
and
the
fact
that
they're
ignoring
the
technologies
that
already
exist
and
are
used
in
other
areas
to
reuse
the
methane
and
create
an
entirely
new
source
of
energy
without
wasting
where
we're
not
relying
on
our
enemies.
That
is
the
key
thing
that
needs
to
be
just
discussed,
and
I
haven't
heard
it
discussed
at
all.
G
I
I
I
do
want
to
say
that
I
met
katherine
here
at
one
of
the
meetings
and
I've
gotten
to
know
her
a
little
bit.
She
lives
on
the
other
side
of
town,
so
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
time
together,
except
a
few
minutes
before
the
meetings,
but
I
highly
respect
her
intelligence,
her
devotion
to
research
and
information
about
all
of
these
topics
that
you
guys
are
making
decisions
about
and
because
we're
not
working
full
time.
I
We
have
time
to
do
that,
so
I
would
plead
for
you
to
really
listen
and
have
the
whole
board
of
commissioners
begin
to
listen
to
the
community
members
who
are
studying
these
things,
the
spray
that
was
discussed
today
as
a
naturally
occurring
bacteria
from
the
soil,
I'm
not
a
soil
research
scientist,
but
I
do
know
that
tetanus
comes
out
of
the
soil
and
it
is
a
big
problem.
There
could
be
other
bacteria
that
we
might
not
be
aware
of
that
are
being
sprayed
into
our
communities
that
could
cause
dangers.
I
The
presenter
said
it
was
safe.
I
think
he
said
plants
and
animals.
I
didn't
hear
him
say:
children
and
adult
human
beings.
I
do
remember
agent
orange
in
vietnam
that
was
thought
to
be
safe
and
my
husband's
cousin
cousin
died
just
a
couple
of
months
ago
decades
after
service
there,
and
only
now
are
the
long-term
causes
of
human
beings,
disease
even
being
acknowledged.
I
You
know,
that's
why
your
physician
looks
at
the
drugs
that
you're
currently
taking
and
compares
them
with
the
ones
that
he's
giving
you
to
make
sure
that
there's
no
interactions-
and
I
want
to
be
sure
that
that's
done,
I
would
like,
I
think,
informed.
Consent
of
private
property
owners
should
be
mandatory.
I
I
believe
we
need
an
equal
number
of
citizens
on
this
committee
or
study
group
to
look
at
these
issues,
and
I
think
that
you
would
be
really
really
benefit
from
that.
And
I'd
also
like
to
ask
that
the
microphones
for
the
off-site
presenters
have
a
have
a
look
at
them,
because
some
of
them
were
very
clear.
Others
had
echo
and
feedback
and
made
it
very
difficult
for
me.
H
Heather
smiley
from
my
grand
actually
I'd
like
to
volunteer
for
the
gypsy
club.
I've
been
dealing
with
them
for
30
years
up
north
huron
national
park.
I
mean
I've
been
burning
them
off
the
trees
forever
I'd.
Do
it
as
a
free
position.
I
did
get
a
chance
to
speak.
I
know
I
called
in
gypsy
club,
but
that's
what
we've
been
calling
it.
I
did
speak
with
the
gentleman
it
is
residential.
Only
so
I
do
understand
what
you're
saying,
but
we
wrap
up
north
too.
H
They
have
they've
tried
the
sprays,
it
doesn't
really
work.
They
say
it
doesn't
hurt
the
butterflies,
but
I
haven't
seen
some
types
of
butterflies
for
years
at
the
cottage,
so
I
would
probably
get
together
some
people
like
me
too.
That
would
definitely
go
out
and
wrap
trees,
man
hours
and
things
that,
while
maybe
it
won't
get
the
60
mark
it
does
do.
I
mean
I've
seen
it
do
great
deals
for
our
property
for
the
last
couple
years,
just
wrap
it
on
and
tear
them
down.
Rep.
H
You
know
it's
a
little
bit
of
work,
but
summer
time
it's
pretty.
You
go
for
a
walk.
You
wrap
a
tree,
I
mean
you
know.
I
think
it
would
be
something
that
we
could
get
the
public
to
even
help,
especially
if
people
aren't
necessarily
wanting
to
fly
over
I
garden
at
my
home.
While
again
they
say
that
it
is
free
of
any
kind
of
chemicals.
I
don't
know
how
it's
gonna
my
leg,
my
lettuce,
my
tomatoes,
you
know-
and
I
eat
that
my
family
eats
that.
So
I
I'd
like
to
do
some
investigations.
H
I'd
like
to
try
to
help
out
we're
kind
of
nerd
we
like
to
get
on
your
you
know
bad
side
a
lot
but
we'd
like
to
help
too.
So
this
is
definitely
something
that
we
seek
interest
in.
So
again,
I
mean
I'd,
be
happy
to
volunteer
or
do
any
research,
or
you
know
chit-chat
with
edward
a
little
bit
too
and
see
what
they
got
because
he's
not
necessarily
the
scientist
person
he's
the
presenter,
because
again,
I've
got
many
years
of
experience
in
fighting
these
guys
successfully.
H
Another
thing
that
I
wanted
to
kind
of
just
discuss
is
the
mass
mandates.
We
overturned
michigan
school
boards
yesterday
through
about
a
thousand
of
our
volunteers
that
we
collected,
so
we
are
definitely
a
mess
to
be
fighting
up
against.
So
I
was
just
wondering
when
you're
going
to
let
your
sheriffs
take
the
mass
off
because
they
don't
want
to
do
that.
Obviously
they
only
do
it
because
they're
told
to,
but
it's
already
been
deemed
pretty
much
useless
and
illegal
as
far
as
that,
so
you
know
breathe
guys.
It's
free
country
have
a.
H
Mean
yeah,
so
you
literally
take
like
burlap
and
something
and
wrap
it,
and
then
they
can't
they're,
not
that
smart,
so
they
can't
crawl
up.
So
then
they
kind
of
either
die
or
they
get
stuck
or
they
go
back
down.
So
then
they
can't
eat
the
leaves,
because
that's
all
they're
after
is
the
leaves
from
nutrition,
so
you'll
notice
a
lot
of
like
oak
trees.
You
know
it
just
looks
like
the
leaves
haven't
come
to
bloom,
it's
just
them
eating
it.
H
H
It
could
be,
I
think,
saving
money
and
like
I
think
the
community
would
totally
be
interested
in
trying
to
do
this
personal,
two
cents
I'll
look
into
my
community
and
see
because
we
are
northern
like
we're
in
an
oxford
and
stuff,
so
we're
the
ones
that
are
affected
more
so
than
maybe
some
of
the
cities
that
don't
have
the
variety
of
food
that
they
like.
H
I
think
it's
just
based
on
what
kind
of
food
they
like,
like
your
cockroach
thing,
I'm
just
trying
to
yeah,
so
you
know
they
don't
find
the
food
they
got
to
go
to
where
the
food
is
staying
with
birds,
deer
everything,
we're
turning
down
all
their
nature.
That's
another
meeting,
though,
but
I
appreciate
your
time.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
A
M
I,
if
I
could
hand
these
out
to
everybody,
yeah.
F
M
You'll
indulge
me:
I
saw
this
at
a
city
council
meeting
I
went
to
in
the
district
and
I
went.
Oh,
this
is
cool.
Let's
see
what
happens
so,
there's
two
concepts.
That
talked
with
some
of
us
about
that.
Just
to
get
the
conversation,
I
thought
you
said
everybody.
M
A
M
So
first
is
a:
I
called
it:
a
cvt
match
fund,
so
thinking
about
our
arpa
money
and
how
we
can
support
our
local
governments.
So
that's
the
first
one
and
then
the
second
one
is.
It
was
called
the
family
resiliency
fund.
But
having
conversations
with
other
folks
mentioned
the
better
idea
of
calling
it
is
like
middle
class,
stabilization,
emergency
grants,
or
something
like
that.
A
A
M
M
That
say,
for
example,
a
city
wants
to
buy
a
new
ambulance
and
that
is
arpa
qualified
for
the
city
to
pay
for,
but
that
city
didn't
get
that
much
in
arpa
money
and
their
budget
is
limited.
So
we
as
the
county
could
chip
in
a
match
so
say:
you're,
a
city
that
has
a
five
percent
poverty
rate.
We
could
say
your
ambulance
that
cost
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
will
give
you
a
dollar
for
dollar
match.
A
Have
any
questions
are
the
commissioners
for
coaching
cavalry
off
the
bat
or
you
don't
have
to
just
throw
it
out
there?
A
Another
thing,
I
would
say
is:
if
with
bringing
up
the
ambulance
thing
is,
would
the
county
have
the
ability
to
make
sure
that
they're
buying,
like
a
good
ambulance,
ambulances,
we're
using
an
example
right
so
they're
not
just
buying
some
like
knockoff
or
you
know
some
used
ambulance
that
they're
trying
to
refurbish,
or
you
know
something
that
tangible,
so
we're
making
sure
the
money's
spent
correctly
and
they're
going
to
get
some
longevity
out
of
it?
Okay,
that
would
just
be
a
question
for
me
right,
good
call.
A
A
Correct
okay,
I
like
how
you
sum
that
up,
commissioner
marker
has
a
question.
C
So
I
have
a
couple
of
thoughts
on
this.
First
of
all,
yes,
we
have
big
pot
of
arpa
dollars,
but
if
you
talk
to
the
executive
and
his
staff-
and
you
talk
to
our
leadership,
we
can
all
figure
out
how
to
spend
that
246
million
dollars
right
and
as
we
just
started,
to
walk
through
that,
we
find
these
big
buckets
right-
40
million
here-
60
million
here
generally,
where
we
want
to
see
funding,
go
to
and
it's
got
to
meet
the
requirements
of
arpa
which
are
really
quite
restricted.
C
Okay,
so
that
all
being
said,
I
think
the
idea
of
matching
communities
with
what
they
want
to
do
that
meets
the
arpa
requirements
is
100
in
line
with
what
arpa
says
they
want
us
to
coordinate
with
communities
so
that
we
are
leveraging
the
dollars.
The
idea
of
doing
that,
I
think,
is
correct.
I
think
where
we're
going
to
get
hung
up
is
priorities
right.
What
do
we
at
the
county
think
is
the
most
important
things
to
spend
our
arpa
dollars
on
may
not
be
what
the
cvts
need,
and
I
don't
you
know.
C
C
You
know,
l
over
here
just
wants
50
000
to
improve
a
park
in
an
underserved
area,
so
I
think
those
discussions
and
priority
setting
across
the
board
needs
to
be
in
place
before
we
could
do
something
like
this.
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
questions
that
need
to
be
answered
so.
C
M
M
So
cvt
priorities
totally
understand
you're,
saying
commissioner
markham.
That
then
it's
like.
Does
the
county
want
to
be
spending
200
000
on
ambulances
or.
C
On
one
ambulance
in
that
community
compared
to
something
else
over
in
this
one,
so
I
think
the
way
we
run
our
road
programs
is
a
good
one
right.
We
let
the
local
community
tell
us
what
it
is
they
want,
and
then
we
match
that,
and-
and
I
think
this
could
be-
that
kind
of
a
program
with
a
lot
of
rules,
sure
and
guide
posts
along
the
way.
M
M
Thank
you.
So
that's
the
cvt
match.
Thank
you
for
this
input.
This
is
helpful
and
then
the
other
one,
the
the
second
one
middle
class
stabilization.
So
this
is
a
concept.
So
when
I
was
in
grad
school
at
u
of
m,
they
have
a
thing
called
the
center
for
the
educational
women
and
that
was
started
back
in
the
60s,
because
when
women
were
going
to
u
of
m
back,
then
there
might
be.
M
Emergencies
like
you
have
to
get
home
because
a
family
member's
sick
or
there's
a
holiday
break
from
school,
but
you're
not
able
to
bridge
the
gap
in
your
rent
because
you're
working,
a
work,
study,
job
or
something.
So
this
this
concept
is
based
very
much
on
the
center
for
the
educational
women,
which
offers
emergency
grants
to
the
students
at
u
of
m
with
you
know,
there's
a
form
that
you
got
to
fill
out.
M
Third
of
households,
cannot
fill
a
two
thousand
dollar
emergency
within
30
days
without
going
to
like
a
payday
lender
or
getting
some
other
form
of
help.
So
this
is
to
hopefully
help
stabilize
middle
class
families
so
that
people
that
are
in
the
middle
class
don't
slide
into
being
lower
middle
class
or
lower
middle
class
into
poverty,
and
that's
why
the
thinking
is
30
to
150
percent
ami
as
the
qualifier.
M
So
again,
it's
supposed
to
be
middle
class,
so
yeah
we'll
give
you
two
grand
if
you
need
it
or
up
to
two
thousand
dollars,
if
you
need
it
for
an
emergency
and
then
the
second
thing
is
in
order
to
prevent
an
emergency
from
happening
again,
offer
you
the
opportunity
to
create
your
own
savings
account
or
bolster
your
savings
account
with
another
grant
if
you
apply
for
it.
C
Be
yeah.
I
really
feel
like
this
is
a
discussion
for
public
health
and
safety
because
we
do
have
and
have
had
these
kinds
of
things
and
not
exactly
this,
but
certainly
you
know,
let's
help
somebody
who
really
needs
it
in
an
acute
way.
Yeah
I
mean
so
I
would
want
this
to
be
structured
and
I'm
not
on
that
committee.
I
never
have
been,
but
I
would
want
it
to
be
structured
and
consistent
with
other
programs
that
we've
done
like
this
in
the
past,
and
that's
really
all
the
comment.
I
would
have
well.
A
K
I
was
gonna
say
I
agree
with
gwen.
I
mean
this
is
probably
not
the
best
form
for
it,
and
we
do
have
other
other
programs
similar
to
this,
not
exactly
this
that
do
this
like,
for
I
know
we
do
it
for
housing
and
for
rental
assistance
and
et
cetera,
et
cetera.
So
maybe,
if
we
can
put
it
within
the
groups
that
look
at
that
one
now
they
can
come
up
with
something
and
help
charlie,
I
think
get
where
charlie's
trying
to
go
with
this.
Okay.