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B
C
Up
I
have
approval
of
the
minutes
from
the
November
30th
meeting
moved
by
commissioner
Moss,
supported
by
commissioner
McGillivray.
All
in
favor
of
approval
of
the
minutes
say
aye
aye
opposed,
say,
nay,
minutes
are
approved.
Next
up
is
approval
of
the
agenda
for
today
moved
by
commissioner
Moss,
supported
by
commissioner
Charles.
C
Any
additions
deletions
to
the
agenda,
seeing
none
all
in
favor
of
approving
today's
agenda,
say
aye
agenda
is
approved.
Is
there
anyone
here
who
wishes
to
address
public
comment
at
this
time.
C
C
Thank
you
motion
carries
one
two,
three,
four
yeah;
okay,
all
right!
Next
up,
we
have
item
eight,
our
department
recommendations,
item
8A
authorizing
the
waiving
of
polio,
vaccination
fees
and
Associated
Administration
fees
moved
by
commissioner
mcgilvery,
supported
by
commissioner
Charles.
E
I
asked
you
about:
do
you
have
any
questions
regarding
polio?
So
what
we
wanted
to
bring
to
you
is
a
request
to
weigh
up
to
a
sin:
polio,
vaccination
fees
that
includes
both
the
what
it
is
to
get
the
vaccination
and
also
the
administrative
fee.
As.
E
There
was
a
case
identified
in
New
York
of
polio
in
America
that
used
to
be
an
eradicated
disease,
but
now
it
is
circular
circulating
in
the
community.
You
know
in
the
United
States,
so
CDC
is
looking
to
run
and
lead
a
program
where
they're
testing
Wastewater
for
polio
very
similar
to
what
we
did
for
covid
they're
leading
the
project,
and
so
we
said
well,
what
can
we
do
if
they
decide
to
test
in
Oakland
being
the
public
health
department?
E
What
can
we
do,
and
that
was
really
to
be
proactive
and
preventive
and
try
to
increase
our
vaccination
rates
for
polio
in
the
community?
We
know
that
the
majority
of
the
population
is
vaccinated
for
polio,
but
we
also
know
there
is
you
know
many
people
in
the
community
that
do
not
have
full
protection,
or
maybe
it's
weighing
as
an
adult.
So
what
we
would
like
to
do
is
reduce
or
eliminate
the
barriers
for
someone
to
get
this
polio
vaccine
and
that
would
include.
C
Thank
you
I
see,
commissioner
Charles
has
a
question.
G
D
Right,
yes,
hi,
Leanne
and
Dr
Faust
good
to
see
you
both
I
was
interested
in
asking
the
chair,
Miss
Markham.
It
says
here
in
this
in
the
resolution.
I
believe
that
you're,
the
sponsoring
commissioner
and
I
don't
know
I
just
think
this
is
important,
and
is
that
a
time
where
others
would
say,
hey
I
want
to
be
listed
as
well
or
is
it
kind
of
mute
I
should
say?
Is
it
kind
of
moot
that
that
where
it
says
foregoing
resolution
Gwen
Marco?
If
it's?
H
And
chair
Markham,
this
is
Michael
with
boc
staff.
I
just
want
to
let
the
other
Commissioners
know
that
omitted
standard
practice
to
add
the
committee
chairperson's
name
on
that
and,
as
commissioner
Charles
has
pointed
out
at
any
time,
if
the
commissioner
would
like
to
add
their
name
onto
it,
staff
will
take
that
feedback,
and
we
will
certainly
update
the
resolution.
B
Thank
you,
I,
don't
remember
what
year
this
would
be,
but
I
think
I
would
be
have
been
like
about
seven
years
old
and
in
second
grade
when
they
called
us
all
into
down
from
school.
I
think
it
was
Wilson's
School
in
Middletown,
Ohio
and
called
us
all
into
the
library,
and
they
had
lined
us
all
up
and
they
had
these
little
cups
and
they
had
us
all
drink
it,
and
it
was
the
wasn't
the
sock.
It
was.
B
A
Saban
vaccine,
I
went
and
told
my
mother,
and
she
was
like,
like
Hallelujah
no
more
polio,
I
mean
what
a
Scourge
polio
had
been.
Obviously
we
all
know
about
President,
Franklin
Roosevelt
and
every
summer
the
the
Panic
every
people
fled.
It
was
a
just
an
awful
thing
and
all
of
a
sudden
you
know
just
like
that.
There
wasn't
going
to
be
any
more
polio
and
I'm.
B
Also,
a
member
of
the
Rotary
Club
and
the
international
Rotary
Club,
one
of
its
top
top
objectives
is
the
eradication
final
of
polio
and
for
years,
polio
was
only
in
these
little
like
Afghanistan
and
Pakistan,
and
very
very
far
Northern
Nigeria
and
that's
where
it
was
and
they
were
working
on
eradicating
him
and
it
was
just
absolutely
a
gas
to
find
it's
in
New,
York
City,
so
I'm
all
for
anything
that
we
need
to
do
to
get
this.
B
B
I
think
this
board
should
be
in
favor
of
it
and
if
that
means
rounding
up
all
the
seven-year-olds
and
seeing
if
we
can
get
them
to
like
drink
it
like
we
did
and
like
I
did
I'm
all
for
it
and
I'd,
like
my
name,
also
on
as
a
co-sponsor
and
the
idea
that
it
you
know
right
now,
we
would
suddenly
have
be
testing
for
polio
in
Detroit
is
something
that
would
have
been
inconceivable
even
a
few
years
ago.
So
we're
all
for
it.
C
G
Oh
I
had
a
question
about
why,
if
that,
why
waiving
the
fee
for
a
thousand
vaccines?
Is
that
just
a
number
to
start
with,
or
you
know,
please
explain.
G
G
E
F
I
I
am
also
the
generation
where
I
was
lined
up
in
the
the
gymnasium
and
given
that
a
little
cup
and
I
remember
the
days
when
fifteen
thousand
people
annually
were
Paralyzed
by
polio
here
in
this
country
alone,
so
polio,
bull,
vaccination
portfolio
is
now
not
the
oral
polio
vaccine
in
this
country.
We
haven't
used
that
since
2000,
it's
the
vaccine,
injectable
vaccine
and
it's
a
series
of
actually
four
vaccines.
That
is
two
months
four
months,
six
to
eighteen
months
and
four
to
six
years
somewhere
in
there.
F
Everyone
in
the
room
here
is
fully
vaccinated,
but
there
we
do
have
pockets
that
are
under
vaccinated.
That
is,
they
have
not
received
the
full
series
and
that
that
is
a
concern,
especially
it's
less
a
concern
when
we
don't
have
any
cases
in
the
United
States
when
it
had
been
eradicated,
but
it
is
no
longer
eradicated.
You
know
we
have.
F
C
One
of
the
reasons
that
we
are
concerned,
more
than
other
locations,
is
that
we
had
the
situation
where
we
had
measles
a
measles
outbreak
here
that
started
in
New
York
as
well.
So
this
is
maybe
not
the
only
reason,
but
is
that
part
of
the
decision
to
go
ahead
and
do
this
is
to
try
and
head
that
potential
off
I
mean?
Are
those
the
communities
you're
looking
at
the
ones
that
we
had
the
measles
outbreak
in
before.
E
E
Or
about
vaccines
being
decreased
people
not
getting
their
vaccines
because
of
covet,
whether
it's
abscess,
whether
you
know
people
couldn't
go
to
the
doctors,
they
were
closed
or
whatever
it
is.
So
we
know
that
the
vaccination
rates
have
increased,
especially
with
kids.
So
this
helps
build
build
on
to
the
projects
that
we're
looking
at
to
try
to
increase
that
as
well
as
boosters
right
for
adults,
or
you
know
finishing
those
Series
in
all.
E
C
Well,
I
certainly
agree
with
the
goal
to
get
polio
out
of
here
and
get
it
out
of
Michigan
and
Oakland
County
and
I
fully
support
us
paying
for
the
vaccines
so
that
that
cost
is
not
a
barrier
to
people
and
they're
willing.
If
we
say
you
can
come
get
a
free
shot,
people
will
do
that
I
think
so.
Okay,
if
no.
D
Commissioner,
Charles
I
wanted
to
get
permission
from
you.
Madam
chair
I
have
a
question
for
Leanne,
but
it's
not
Jermaine
topolio,
but
it
is
a
vaccine
question.
Is
it
okay,
if
I
ask
sure
Leanne
myself,
I
won't
disclose
who
else
at
this
table,
but
both
of
us
got
our
fourth
booster
back
in
September
from
your
wonderful
folks
across
the
way
there
I
was
a
little
concerned
when
maybe
in
the
last
two
months
they
were
talking
about
get
the
new
vaccine.
That
would
help
support
all
of
the
various
things
that
are
coming
our
way.
D
E
F
So
the
the
booster
that
you've
received
the
latest
boosters
the
bivalent
booster
and
it
is
effective.
It
was
designed
against
the
original
stars,
Kobe
2,
and
also
the
ba5
ba4
variants
with
their
mutations
they're.
You
know,
as
this
virus
Stars
Kobe
2,
kova,
19.
kind
of
approaches
being
an
endemic
virus
in
our
species.
F
F
They
will
be
looking
to
see
the
clinical
effects
of
those
new
variants
to
displace
an
earlier
variant.
They
need
to
be
more
easily
transmitted,
they
need
to
be
more
infectious,
but
just
as
importantly,
we
need
to
know
what
the
clinical
effect
is.
Unfortunately,
the
clinical
effect
of
the
BQ
variance
is
no
different,
that
is,
we
haven't
seen
a
surge
in
hospitalizations
or
fatalities
and
know
that
the
last
booster
still
has
effect
against
the
latest
variants.
F
Every
mutation
in
the
spike
protein
decreases
the
recognition
of
our
immunity
or
that
Spike
protein
that
virus,
so
moving
forward
more
mutations
means
decreased
immunity,
even
if
we
have
great
immunity
to
the
earlier
variants
so
again,
similar
to
influenza
I
think
we
can
expect
moving
forward.
We
can
expect
perhaps
not
an
annual,
but
maybe
a
biannual
update
on
the
vaccine.
E
C
Next
up,
we
have
item
9B
manage
8B,
oh
I'm,
looking
at
the
paper,
I'm
sorry
papers
got
it
wrong.
C
I
Good
afternoon,
so
you
have
before
you
almost
150
pages
of
financial
information
in
the
year-end
report.
That
reviews
you
know,
Department
by
department
and
and
fund
by
Fund,
in
terms
of
where
we
landed
in
fiscal
year,
2022
as
compared
to
you
know,
what's
been
included
in
the
budget,
either
in
the
adopted
budget
or
through
amendments
to
the
budget.
We'll
give
you
the
cliff
notes
version
today.
This
is
this
information.
You
know
we
should
emphasize
is
unaudited.
I
Cheryl
and
her
team
are
engaged
on
a
daily
basis
now
with
the
Auditors
as
we
go
through
that
phase
of
the
process.
So
if
there
are
any
significant
adjustments
that
are
that
are
identified
through
the
audit
phase,
we
will
keep
you
updated
to
start
with
the
bottom
line.
At
this
point,
the
ending
general
fund
balance
for
fiscal
year.
I
2022
is
270.4
million
dollars,
so
that
remains
at
a
very
healthy
level
equal
to
about
54
percent
of
our
annual
ongoing
general
fund
budget
so
well
above
the
25
percent
25
required
rainy
day
fund
level,
as
well
as
the
30
Target
level
established
in
our
fund
balance
policy.
I
should
note
that
the
the
resolution
you
considered
last
week
and
that
the
the
full
board
will
take
up
tomorrow
on
the
rafaeli
settlement,
you
know,
uses
the
39.8
million
dollars
of
fund
balance.
I
So
that's
within
you
know,
as
we
discussed
last
week,
that's
within
the
amount
that's
been
reserved
and
that
assigned
fund
balance,
but
but
you
know,
will
be
a
decline
in
fund
balance.
That'll
take
us
down
to
about
230
million
again,
which
is
still
equal
to
about
46
percent
of
our
ongoing
budget,
so
still
at
a
healthy
level.
But
obviously
we
need
to
continue
to
manage
these
funds
and
our
overall
budget
in
a
cautious
and
and
careful
manner.
I
You
know
we
did
have
a
number
of
one-time
spending
items
that
happened
in
FY
2022,
you
know,
all
of
which
were
one
time
in
nature
and
vetted
by
the
administration
and
this
committee
and
the
board
those
things
totaled
to
about
57.8
million
dollars.
I
should
note
in
particular
the
the
one
item.
That's
included
in
the
resolution
here
is
a
5.5
million
dollar
deposit
into
the
building
and
liability
insurance
fund.
I
That's
really
more
of
an
accounting
thing
in
terms
of
the
actuaries
to
tell
us,
you
know:
what's
the
expected
long-term
potential
liabilities
that
the
county
faces
and
that
fund
needs
to
be
balanced,
so
there's
no
actual
expenditure,
you
know
happening
there
to
settle
a
a
lawsuit
or
anything
all
of
that
will
run
through
the
normal
process
and
come
before
this
body.
I
Sort
of
accounting
thing
here,
you'll
see
on
the
revenue
side,
we
do
have
a
13
million
dollar
negative
variance
for
investment
income,
that's
kind
of
a
again
an
accounting
thing:
it's
not
an
actual
loss
of
cash
to
the
county,
but
but
under
accounting
standards.
You
know
we
have
to
adjust
the
market
value
of
our
investments
at
the
end
of
the
year
and
recognize
that
from
an
accounting
perspective
and
because
of
the
increase
in
investment
rates.
That
means
that
the
market
value
of
our
investments
has
gone
down.
I
Is
that
about
right,
Cheryl,
okay,
so
the
good
news
on
the
expenditure
side,
you
know
the
county
and
its
departments
continue
to
do
a
good
job,
managing
expenditures.
I
On
the
Personnel
side,
we
came
in
about
18
million
dollars
below
budget,
that's
partly
just
because
we
continue
to
be
in
a
very
challenging
hiring
environment
and
partly
some
other
factors
involved
there.
On
the
operating
expenditure
side,
we
came
in
to
33
million
dollars
below
the
budgeted
level
of
that
amount.
18
million
dollars
is
included
and
recommended
carry
forwards
for
departments
to
to
complete
one-time
projects
that
number's
a
little
higher
than
it's
been
in
the
past
years,
partly
because
of
of
supply
chain
issues.
I
In
terms
of
of
you
know,
Sheriff's
equipment
not
being
delivered
in
as
timely
a
manner
as
in
the
past.
So
all
of
those
things
combined
are
what
get
us
to
the
270
million
dollar
figure.
There
are
recommended
fund
balance
assignment
amounts
again.
We've
we've
tried
to
reduce
the
number
of
those
assignments
and
ensure
that
any
decisions
about
how
County
funds
are
going
to
be
spent
run
through
the
regular
budget
process.
So
we've
reserved
the
125.5
million
dollars
for
the
rainy
day
fund,
which
is
equal
to
25
percent
of
the
ongoing
budget.
I
I
There
are
a
number
of
miscellaneous
one-time
things,
and
that
leaves
at
the
bottom
line:
44
million
dollars
for
future
one-time
strategic
Investments.
We
expect
you
know
that
that's
going
to
take
some
time
to
vet
and
identify
what
those
things
might
be
as
we
go
through
through
the
process
of
pursuit
of
of
prioritizing
the
the
County
facility
needs,
we've
talked
about
and
other
potential
spending
needs
and
risks.
So
that's
that's
the
high
level
version
and
we're
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have.
C
B
My
thoughts,
Lord
well
thoughts
are
not
there's,
there's,
you
know,
I
guess
I
represent
at
least
for
the
for
the
moment,
institutional
memory.
You
know
as
opposed
to
institutionalized
marriage
or
something
else,
but
the
thing
is
is
that
this
would
be
back,
I
want
to
say,
03
and
I
was
just
been
named.
B
The
chair
of
Finance
down
at
commissioner
Markham
has
now,
and
we
got
called
into
a
meeting
with
me
and
Tom
law,
who
was
the
chair
and
I,
think
Dave
Moffett
and
Brooks,
and
Bob
datto
and
Lori
Van
Pelt
through
predecessor
and
basically
Brooks,
stood
up
and
said,
you're
not
going
to
believe
this
guys.
We
don't
have
unlimited
money
and
we're
like
yeah,
that's
April
1st
come
on.
B
You
kidding
us
no,
and
what
happened
was
the
canary
in
the
coal
mine
was
the
fall
off
on
the
investment
income
instead
of
it
just
continuing
to
go
up,
it
was
leveling
off
and
going
down
and
that's
when
we
said
well,
this
you
know
okay,
this
is
good.
What
does
that
mean?
Well,
it
means
that
we
have
less
money
and
we
have
to
start
making
adjustments
which
led
to
some
very
severe
budget
budget
adjustments.
B
Right
then,
which
we
did
I
think
we
took
seven
percent
right
off
the
everywhere
right,
then
I
think
Chris
long
was
here
at
the
time
and
I
do
believe.
If
Eileen
kowal
were
here,
she
would
also
confirm
this,
and
then
we
started
tackling
the
unfunded
liabilities,
and
that
was
you
know.
That
was
all
because
of
the
unfunded
life.
Excuse
me
of
the
negative
investment
Revenue
figure.
So
the
fact
that
that's
happening
right
now
and,
as
you
know,
I've
been
Mr.
B
You
know
Mr
Doom
here
about
because
I've
not
been
happy
with
the
was
it
like.
Is
it
March
or
April?
We
have
the
Financial
forecast
of
palooza,
you
know
and
that
that's
great,
but
I
still
point
out
that
those
Finance
figures
are
still
not
have
not
been
borne
out
by
by
history.
So
I
kind
of
find
that
worrisome
were
you
expecting
this
kind
of
fall
off
from
the
investment
income.
I
You
know
it's,
it's
completely.
A
function
of
you
know
of
what's
happening
with
inflation
and
interest
rates
which
are
now
starting
to
you
know
to
creep
back
down
at
least
for
the
last
couple
months.
So
it's
not
a
surprise.
It's
it's
sort
of
a
one-time
phenomenon.
I
You
know
that's
now
built
into
the
numbers.
We
certainly
have
the
advantage,
I
think
going
forward
that
we
have
a
a
transparent,
structurally
balanced
budget.
You
know
that
uses
cautious
assumptions
in
terms
of
our
Revenue
estimates
and
our
expenditure
estimates
so
I
think
that
gives
us
a
a
solid
base
to
move
forward.
If
there
is
an
eventuality
that
that
structural
balance
isn't
there
any
more,
then
we're
certainly
prepared
to
make
the
adjustments
that
would
be
needed.
B
That's
what
I
thought?
Okay,
so
if
I
may
just
you
know,
I'm
going
to
obviously
vote
to
approve
and
I
I,
don't
I
I'm,
not
going
to
say,
there's
anything
wrong
with
this.
This
is
all
well
done
and
good
news,
but,
like
I,
said
I'm
not
going
to
be
around
here
after
the
first
of
the
year,
but
those
of
you
who
are
should
be
keep
your
powder
dry,
because
I
still
see
storm
clouds
and
I
still
see
them.
I
still
see.
B
You
know,
you
know
the
black
clouds
on
the
horizon
still
getting
getting
higher
and
higher,
and
you
know
I
can
go
down
some
of
the
things
that
I
pulled
out.
But
you
know
my
my
guess
is
as
good
as
anyone
else's
I
would
pay
a
real
attention
to
these
guys
from
U
of
M
and
their
financial
forecasts
before
they
come
up
with
their
next
one
I
would
tell
them.
Maybe
we
should
chat
about
the
one
you
just
made,
but
I
find
this.
B
The
negative
investment
Revenue
figured
to
be
worrisome
and,
like
I
said
with
that
with
with
those
with
those
cautions.
Thank
you
all
very
much
I.
If,
if
this,
no
no,
this
isn't
the
last
agenda
item
so
but
anyway,
by
the
way,
just
real
quick
side
note
is
a
college
in
it
was
it's
been
great
working
with
you,
it
was
great
working
with
you
in
Lansing
you're
much
better
now
than
you
were
then,
and
it's
been
a
pleasure,
is.
B
Is
a
compliment
believe
it
or
not?
No,
it's
not
rude,
because
Kyle
Jen
actually
I
voted
for
Kyle
Jen
to
be
the
House
fiscal
agency
director.
Now
that
can
be
told
is
clear.
It
was
great,
but
I
voted
for
you,
so
the
good
has
only
gotten
better.
That
was
not
a
left-handed
compliment,
although
I
might
be
getting
one
or
two
to
somebody.
Maybe.
B
A
pleasure
and
I
I'm
just
glad
that
they
are
lucky
enough
to
have
you
here.
Thank
you.
D
D
B
D
I'm
looking
under
Revenue
variances-
and
this
is
when
you
know
my
good
old
school
board
days-
comes
and
helps
me
out
a
little
bit,
because
you
talk
about
unfunded
liabilities
or
mandates,
whatever
they're
called,
and
then
there
was
also
this
thing
that
I
don't
think
it's
Gap,
but
it
was
something
that
on
our
budget,
let's
say
our
budget
was
100
million
just
for
round
numbers,
it
would
show
like
212
million,
but
that
other
other
112
million
was
just
kind
of
like
the
over,
not
the
overhead,
but
the
Legacy
costs
for
like
pensions
and
things
of
that
nature.
D
I
Accountant,
we
certainly
you
know,
held
to
all
of
those
Accounting
Standards.
You
know
specific
to
unfunded.
Liabilities
were
fortunate
to
be
in
a
position
where
both
of
our
Retirement
systems
are
very
well
funded.
Our
our
vibo,
which
is
the
vehicle
for
paying
retired
health
care
benefits,
is
actually
up
over
150
percent
funded
and
our
pension
system
is
is
right,
just
above
100,
so,
okay,
compared
to
most
other
state
and
local
governments.
D
Perfect
and
then
my
second
and
final
for
this
segment,
I
suppose,
is
where
it
says.
A
second
negative
variance
is
7.5
million
Federal
I'm,
not
quite
seeing
where
that
adds
up
to
it,
says
7.5
million,
and
it
says
due
to
appropriation
of
7.1,
of
which
3.1
has
been
spent.
So
there's
that
to
say,
like
approximately
four
million
dollars,
is
being
sent
back
to
the
federal
government.
I
So
so
not
quite
I
I
wouldn't
I,
wouldn't
characterize
it.
That
way,
I
mean
that's
the
largest
factor
within
that
seven
and
a
half
million
dollar
figure.
There
are
other
items
that
are
included
in
the
detail
report.
That
particular
item
is
a
function
of
you
know
the
board
authorized
seven
million
dollar
up
to
seven
million
dollars
in
spending
for
the
covet
disaster
that
would
be
eventually
funded
and
reimbursed
by
FEMA.
As
it
turns
out.
I
You
know,
the
spending
has
has
not
had
to
be
at
that
level.
Thankfully,
that's
the
three
million
dollar
figure.
If
I'm,
recalling
correctly,
you
know
so
there's
four
million
dollars
that
we
didn't
spend
it.
So
it's
not
going
to
come
in
as
Revenue,
so
it's
a
wash
bottom
line
and
then
the
remainder
of
that
is
simply
a
timing
issue
that
it
takes
FEMA
a
longer
period
of
time
to
review,
requests
and
reimburse
us
so
we'll
see
that
Revenue
in
a
future
year.
Okay,.
D
I
D
I
Correct-
and
you
know
I
think
we've
we've
sure
it'll.
You
know
you
know
specific
to
covid.
There
have
obviously
been
a
number
of
funding
streams
and
we've.
We've
worked
very
hard
with
both
the
health
department
and
the
Emergency
Management
Department
to
to
ensure
that
we're
spending
those
funds
in
the
most
effective
way,
possible
and
and
and
and
and.
C
G
Chair
I
have
I
think
three
or
four
quick
questions.
You
mentioned,
18.1
million
dollars
for
in
the.
G
X-Men
boom
there
you
go:
that's
right,
yeah,
the
no
that's
what
it
is:
total
operating
expenditures.
The
next
bullet
point
Sorry
is
33.1
million
dollars
below
the
budgeted
level,
and
18
million
of
that
has
been
approved
for
a
carry
forward
into
the
next
fiscal
year
for
departments
to
complete
one-time
projects.
G
Can
you
help
understand
help
me
understand
what
that
means,
because
to
me
that
sounds
like:
does
the
board
not?
Does
the
board
seeding?
What
could
be
its
authority
over
that
money
to
allow
you
to
do
what
you
want
to
do
with
your
departments
as
the
side
of
the
executive,
but
also
is
that
just
us
giving
you
18
million
dollars
to
do
Department
projects
well.
I
There
there
is
a
list
of
the
18
million
dollars
in
spending
Authority
that's
being
carried
forward
and
by
adopting
the
resolution
that
goes
with
this
report,
you
know
we're
effectively
approving
those
dollars
to
continue
to
be
available
to
those
departments
suspended.
So
you
know,
if
you
have
questions
regarding
any
of
those
items,
we're
happy
to
to
answer
those
you
know
in
some
cases.
Those
are
you
know.
Those
are
things
the
board
specifically
appropriated
as
one-time
projects
that
just
haven't
gotten
done
because
of
you
know
the
short
time
period.
I
G
I
I
Oh
there,
it
is
it's
page
page
item
33
of
the
report.
Okay,.
G
Thank
you
and
then
with
talking
about
the
42.4
million
dollars
for
raphaelian
related
property
tax
liabilities.
Will
we
have
to
consider
that
in
the
future,
when
we
think
about
the
budget
or
not
just
specifically
about
raphaeli?
But
since
that
court
cases
change
precedent?
Is
there
things
we
should
be
prepared
for
really
the
budget
about
that.
I
I
mean
I
think
that's
a
discussion.
That's
probably
best
directed
at
Corporation
Council.
G
I
But
certainly
we
need
to
be
aware
of
you
know
if
there
is
ongoing
litigation
area.
G
Okay,
thanks
and
then
we've
talked
about
child
care
fund
before,
and
can
you
just
refresh
my
memory
because
it's
also
in
part
of
these
funds
and
I
was
trying
to
understand
the
language
in
your
report
about
the.
G
There's
a
operating
favorability
in
the
fiscal
year,
22
budget,
part
of
the
reason
for
that
is
lower
child
care,
fund,
caseloads
and
expenditures.
Now
this
is
State
funds
that
come
to
us
right.
I
So
this
is,
this
is
an
extremely
complicated
topic
and,
and
one
I
think
we
need
to
do
a
deeper
dive
on
okay,
but
you
know
generally,
the
state
pays
50
percent
of
those
costs.
So
you
know,
we've
had
we've
had
lower
case
loads
and
lower
costs.
Both
you
know,
partly
because
of
the
pandemic,
partly
because
of
you
know,
I
think
policy
changes
in
the
system,
so
that
has
lowered
our
expenditure.
But
you
know,
as
we
have
lower
expenditures
we,
you
know.
We
also
obviously
don't
have
that
50
reimbursement.
G
G
Understood
understood
and
then
the
last
question
was
we
have
44
million
dollars
for
future
strategic
Investments,
which
I
think
you
mentioned
are
not
yet
assigned
but
could
be
used
for
things
like
the
big
Capital
Improvement
thing
that
chair
was
campaigning
right
or
other
things
that
we
determined
to
be
worthy
of
investing
in
with
this,
but
right
now,
unassigned
right.
G
I
Is
our
you
know,
as
for
our
rainy
day
fund,
that
we're
not
going
to
touch
unless
there's
a
decline?
The
client
revenues
yeah?
You
know
how
much
is
needed
for
other
things
and
then
here's
the
available
pool
of
funding
that
could
be
used
for
one-time
projects
that
have
a
long-term.
You
know
return
on
investment
for
the
county,
but
we're
going
to
make
sure
that
those
things
get
vetted.
You
know
through
the
regular
budget
process
before
anything
happens
with
those
and.
G
C
Seeing
no
other
comments,
let's
prompt
the
vote
on
the
fiscal
year,
2022
year-end
report.
C
I
do
want
to
say
to
the
finance
committee
I
appreciate
your
willingness
to
come
to
a
special
meeting
today.
To
get
this
all
done.
I
know
Mr,
Jen
and
I
spoke
last
week
and
they
were
really
scrambling
to
try
to
get
it
done
and
they
were
it
was.
You
know
they
were
up
all
night
and
gonna
be
here
in
their
PJs
and
it
was
like
no.
Let's
just
do
it
right
and
get
here.
C
C
All
right
next
up,
we
have
item
nine
from
the
economic
development
and
infrastructure
committee
recommendations.
Creation
of
the
Oakland
County
Transit
Division
I
need
a
motion,
commissioner
mcgilvery
supported
by
Maria.
Commissioner
Charles.
Thank
you.
Okay,
let's
have
the
Economic
Development
Division
come
on
up
and
talk
to
the
finance
committee
about
this.
L
Afternoon
we,
some
of
you,
were
here
for
economic
development,
so
I
don't
so,
but
some
of
you
were
not
so
I.
Let
me
know
if
I'm
repeating
myself
too
much,
but
we
this
this
resolution
brings,
brings
forward
the
creation
of
a
division
within
Economic
Development
and
three
positions
to
work
on
implementing
the
transit
millage
that
was
approved
in
November.
L
But
we
thought
we
would
also
use
this
as
an
opportunity
to
give
you
a
sense
of
what
we've
done
since
the
passage
of
the
county-wide
millage
since
since
since
November,
because,
as
you
know,
in
the
in
the
in
the
previous
structure,
the
Oakland
County
public
transit
authority
was
the
organization
that
had
the
contract
with
smart
to
provide
transit
services
within
that
footprint
of
communities
that
opted
into
membership
with
ocpta.
Now,
after
you
all
put
on
the
ballot,
and
it
was
approved
by
the
voters
of
Oakland
County,
those
funds
flow
into
the
county.
L
And
now
we
are
the
entity
that
will
hold
the
contracts
with
the
transit
providers.
So
you'll
see
that
the
one
thing
that
the
this
resolution
does
is
establish
an
Enterprise
fund
where
the
millage
proceeds
will
flow
into
and
then
the
positions
that
will
help
us
implement
the
planning
around
the
transit
services
county-wide
since
the
election
Brett
and
I
along
and
and
chairman
Woodward
has
participated
in
a
number
of
this.
L
These
Outreach
opportunities,
but
we
have
met
with
the
oldest
persons,
commission,
Western,
Oakland,
Transit,
Authority,
Northern,
Oakland,
transit
authority
and
smart,
because
our
goal
is
initially
and
our
our
goal
is
buyers
January
meeting
to
have
contracts
in
place
with
all
the
current
providers
so
that
we
ensure
continuity
of
services.
We
are
also
hoping
and
talking
to
each
of
those
entities
about
what
expansions
they
might
undertake
in
the
first
year,
so
they
are
getting
back
to
us.
L
So
you
may
see
the
the
potential
ability
of
anoda
to
expand
now
that
they're
not
limited
by
the
borders
of
the
communities
that
they
were
currently
operating
in
so
there'll,
be
other
expansions
that
will
take
longer
as
it
takes
to
get
buses
and
drivers
and
and
other
things
that
need
to
you
know,
fall
into
place.
But
our
first
step
is
to
get
contracts
in
place
with
the
current
providers,
so
we've
met
with
all
of
them.
L
We
have
met
with
the
RTA
to
utilize
their
expertise
in
terms
of
the
role
that
they
play,
a
as
a
pass-through
of
funds
from
the
state
and
the
federal
government.
We
hope
to
use
them,
as
it
relates
to
some
grants
that
the
region
currently
doesn't
draw
down
so
that
we
Leverage
The
millage
proceeds
to
to
receive
more
federal
and
state
money.
L
We
also
had
a
meeting
yesterday
with
all
of
the
providers
together
to
talk
about
some
of
the
common
issues
that
came
out
during
the
individual
meetings.
You
know
things
as
simple,
as
you
know,
who's
doing
what
services
things
like
technology,
things
like
ordering
buses.
You
know
there's
a
lot
of
common
issues
that
we've
identified
and
it
was
a
really
good
productive
conversation
among
the
current
providers.
L
We
also
have
plans
and
hope
to
do
still
by
the
end
of
the
year
to
meet
with
the
communities
that
currently
or
formerly
we're
in
the
smart
footprint,
so
that
they
understand
what
the
change
means
for
them.
Initially,
we'll
also
also
be
meeting
with
communities
like
Novi
in
terms
of
how
this
would
impact
them
again,
just
preliminarily
and
then
also
while
some
of
the
providers
are
having
these
conversations
as
well.
L
You
know
meeting
with
some
of
the
communities
in
the
in
the
northwest
corner
or
on
the
west
side
of
the
county
to
talk
about
their
Transit
needs.
So
we've
done
a
lot
of
work
in
these
last
three
or
so
weeks,
but
the
creation
of
this
Division
and
these
positions
are
absolutely
essential
to
the
the
the
work
going
forward.
L
So
we
we
are
going
to
establish,
it
will
be
a
small
division,
but
it
is
modeled
after
the
division
that
Brett
manages
so
it'll
be
kind
of
on
par
with
planning,
but
there
will
be
a
manager.
A
manager
is
the
level
that
Brett's
at
so
just
to
give
you
a
sense
of
that
and
then
two
planners
within
that
division.
That's
what
we
think
is
necessary
to
get
started.
J
That's
what
I
was
looking
at,
so
how
many
total
positions
will
just
be
three
three
okay
and
then
it's
prorated
for
553
000
for
this
year
or
next
year,
and
then
eight
or
six
thirty,
six
for
the
following
year:
the
24.
okay.
B
Full
disclosure
guys
this
is
this
is
like
all
ancient
history,
I
think
it
was
somewhere
like
95
or
something
I
was
appointed
to
the
Oakland
County
public
transit
authority
and
for
the
of
the
next
30
years,
I've
been
on
and
off
a
member
of
it
three
times
as
chair.
So
you
know
then
I
was
for
seven
years.
I
was
the
one
of
the
county
representatives
to
the
Regional
Transit
Authority,
so
I
just
have
some
questions
on
how
this
is
going
to
work
now.
I
see
no
reason
to
obstruct
this.
B
My
my
own
communities
voted
for
this.
So
you
know,
as
a
representative
I
I
will
vote
to
do
that.
But
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
Number
one
I
mean
I
know
how
it
all
worked
under
the
ocpta.
It
was
very,
very
flat.
There
was
no
administrative
overhead
to
speak
of.
How
much
is
this
553
K
and
the
636k
is
basically
the
administrative
overhead
for
running
administering
this
program.
B
Yes,
absolutely
yes,
and
that
money
is
being
taken
out
of
the
millage
proceeds:
correct,
okay,
I'm,
looking
at
the
mechanism
for
collecting
I'm
hearing,
we
we
we're
doing
this,
we're
doing
that.
What
is
the
the
when
I?
Remember
the
the
resolution
and
say
it
goes
to
the
county
and
I
deal
with
this
all
the
time.
People
say
the
county
this
and
the
county.
That
and
this
is
it
the
drain
or
excuse
me
the
Water
Resources
office.
Is
it
the
clerk?
Is
it
the
prosecutors?
The
sheriff
is
the
executive.
B
We
say
the
county.
What
is
going
to
be
the?
What
is
the
role
of
the
executive
in
all
of
this,
as
opposed
to
the
board.
L
Well
is,
as
in
any
any
kind
of
County
issue
where
there's
the
appropriation
of
funds,
the
administration
of
the
program
will
fall
under
the
county
executive
and
we
will
have
to
come
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners
to
appropriate
the
money.
B
Pa
139
good,
because
I
know
we
had
a
conversation
about
that
great.
So
the
funds
will
be
collected
by
the
in
the
old
days
was
collected
by
the
treasurer
and
then
dispersed
through
the
treasurer's
office
with
the,
and
it
was
real
simple.
It's
all
just
went
to
smart,
so
that's
going
to
be
collected
by
the
treasurer
and
then
it
goes
to
the
executive
who's
going
to
have
the
who's
going
to
have
the
money
you
guys
can
have
the
money.
L
B
L
L
It
might
also
and
I
hope
to
get
to
this
point
because
the
providers
would
like
this.
You
know
the
first
year,
I
see
as
a
foundational
contract
with
them.
Second,
third
will
hopefully
be
you
know
small
expansions.
We
make
it
to
the
point
where
we
assign
a
multiple
year
contract
with
them
so
that
they
don't
have
to
you
know
every
single
year
get
the
appropriation,
but
it's
a
10-year
millage
and
we're
just
going
to
have
to
see.
You
know
how
that
how
that?
How
that
how
that
goes,
and.
B
The
intra
appropriations
of
who
gets
what
within
it
all
will
be
will
be
the
Board
of
Commissioners,
as
in
any
appropriation
right.
L
And
we
have
told
just
just
this
is
a
little
bit
of
a
a
separate
issue,
but
you'll
remember
that
in
the
resolution
separate
from
the
ballot
language
you
all
had
placed
some
dollar
amounts
for
some
of
the
local
providers.
So
you
had
said
you
know:
woda
was
to
receive
2
million,
NoDa
was
to
receive
2
million
and
OPC
was
to
receive
a
million.
L
We
have
told
those
providers
that
from
our
in
in
our
minds
that
was
a
floor,
not
a
ceiling
so
that
if
they
came
forward
with
a
a
proposal
to
provide
three
million
dollars
of
services
in
an
expanded
area,
then
you
know
we
would
bring
that
assuming.
We
support
it
to
the
board
to
to
approve
that
level
of
funding.
B
Now
the
smart,
of
course,
is
a
we
know.
What
it
is
question
is
I
know
that
the
there's
been
some
talk
about
prodding
smart
and
some
of
the
other
providers
to
either
change
service
or
up
service,
or
do
something
that
is
that
going
to
be
a
function
of
the
executive,
or
will
that
be
something?
Maybe
the
board
might
be
looking
into?
You
know.
L
I
think
all
of
the
above
right,
so
the
executive
has
two
appointments
to
the
Smart
Board.
Currently
Brett
and
I
serve
as
members
of
the
Smart
Board,
and
you
all
will
now
have
you
know,
input
and
influence
like
you'll.
Remember
right
when
you
sign
the
contract
with
the
DIA,
you
had
a
lot
of
in
conversation
with
them
about
the
services
that
you
hoped
that
they
you
intended
for
them
to
provide
as
part
of
that
millage
right,
more
more,
more
availability
for
school
children.
You
know
more
free.
L
Whatever
you
know
like
you,
you
sign
you.
You
struck
a
bargain
with
them
about
what
it
would
take
for
you
all
to
approve
that
millage,
so
I'm,
assuming
that
the
board
will
have
you
know,
input
on
on
how
well
the
services
are
going.
I,
don't
know
that
we're
going
to
micromanage
these
providers
right
I
mean
we're
not
Transit
provider
experts,
but
yes,
I
think
that
we
will
have
through
all
of
those
Avenues.
You
know
input
into
the
future
of
transit
in
the
county.
I.
B
Know
that's
smart
toward
the
end
of
the
RTA.
My
RTA
term
was
actually
starting
to
look
at
it.
Now
they
are,
they
are
really
embracing
they're,
calling
it
microtransit
it
I
used
to
say
it's.
It's
it's
a
Dial-A-Ride
meets
Uber
that
we
should
be
able
to
do
that
and
they
are
actually
doing
it
and
it's
this
is.
This
is
great
because
this
is
you
know
this
I
think
this
is
the
future,
not
the
old
line
hall,
but
okay.
L
And
I
would
just
like
to
say
to
that.
You
know
because
you're
right
and
we
had
this
conversation
at
Ed
and
I
I
mean
smart
in
and
of
itself-
is
going
through
a
transformation.
You
know,
and
that
and
that,
and
then
we
have
a
new
general
manager.
Who
is
really?
L
You
know,
taking
a
look
at
things
from
top
to
bottom
and
is
bringing
some
important
changes
to
Smart,
but
we
have
to
acknowledge
that
there's
a
real
challenge
in
terms
of
drivers
and
buses
and
at
the
same
time,
it's
going
to
take
us
a
minute
to
kind
of
figure
out
that
transformation,
that's
underway,
and
it's
going
to
take
some
planning,
which
is
why
we
really
want
to
have
the
expertise
within
this
office,
because
you
know
if
you
were
going
to
evaluate
the
the
fixed
routes
that
are
out
there,
you
may
actually-
and
they
found
this
in
other
areas-
decide
that
a
40,
40
foot
bus
isn't
the
solution.
L
You
know
that
really
more
micro
Transit
is
a
solution,
but
even
how
you
approach
micro
Transit
is
changing
because
you
know
some
zones
are
you
know
this
size?
Some
zones
are
this
size
and
you
have
to
really
there's
a
science
to
of
that,
because
you
want,
you
know
people
to
be
able
to
not
wait,
30
minutes
to
get
a
ride
right,
because
then
that
is
frustrating
to
them.
So
you
have
to
kind
of
it's
a
work
in
progress.
L
Smart
currently,
privatizes
that
right,
it
is
provided
by
via
and
I
think
that
they're
thinking
through
whether
that
is
the
long-term,
correct
approach
or
whether
they
should
get
into
that
type
of
Transportation
like,
for
example,
you
know
they're,
taking
an
inventory
of
all
of
those
buses
that
you
probably
see
out
in
your
communities
right
because
smart
provides
hundreds
of
buses
to
communities
like,
for
example,
in
Hazel
Park
right.
There's
a
bus
at
the
Hazel
Park
Rec
Center,
probably
not
used
20
hours
a
week.
L
B
Anybody
thought
out
in
my
area,
you
certainly
can.
Is
there
any?
Is
there
any
thought
of
making
some
kind
of
a
baseline
study
now
as
to
what
services
are
being
provided
to
what
communities,
how
much
money
is
being
spent
wherever
so
that
when
you
come
back
I
know
it's
a
10-year
millage,
so
you
don't
have
to
go
back
to
the
people.
Every
three
or
four
years
like
like
we
had
to
with
the
ocpta,
but
nonetheless
to
say.
Well,
we
have
increased
a
b
and
c.
We
have
increased
p
and
Q.
L
Just
throwing
that
out
there's
a
lot
of
those
conversations
going
on
right
now
and
some
of
the
question
is,
you
know,
who's
the
appropriate
entity
to
undertake
that,
and
is
it
smart?
Is
it
the
RTA?
Is
it
Oakland
County
itself,
you
know:
do
we
want
to
bring
someone
on
to
help
with
that
type
of
you
know,
specific
planning.
L
Smart
has
a
lot
of
those
things
in
the
queue,
for
example,
and
I'm
surprised
no
one's
raised
this
with
us
today.
It's
one
of
my
pet
peeves,
but
you
know
know
at
the
beginning
of
the
year
we're
going
to
be
approving
an
RFP
around
bus
stops.
You
know,
one
of
my
pet
peeves
is
how
bad
the
bus
stops
are
right
and
so
and
that
knowing
exactly
where
they
are,
what
type
of
stop
they
are.
L
You
know
what
type
of
having
criteria
there's
actually
criteria
that
dictates
whether
you
should
have
a
poll,
whether
you
should
have
a
bench,
whether
you
should
have
a
structure
and
whether
and
then
they're
in
the
right
place
is
it
turns
out.
Some
of
them
aren't
in
the
right
place
because
I
didn't
even
know
this,
but
you
know
Dwight
knew
enough
to
know
that
you
know
when
there's
a
bus,
stop
bus,
stop
there
actually
should
be
a
bus
stop.
L
You
should
be
able
to
look
across
the
street
and
see
where
you're
returning
to
and
that's
not
necessarily
how
our
system
is
laid
out.
You
know
that's
a
problem.
Some
of
the
bus
stops
are
like
before
the
intersection
instead
of
after
the
intersection.
So
then
you
got
a
driver,
who's
stopping
here
and
then
stopping
there,
and
so
it's
not
efficient.
So
we're
undertaking,
you
know,
there's
undertaking
a
huge,
not
huge,
hope.
L
B
This
it
can
be
a
lot
of
fun.
I
know
that
when
I
was
first
named
to
the
RTA
board,
I
was
the
only
one
who
took
the
bus
down
to
the
meetings.
Part
of
it
is
that
I
was
a
12-minute
walk
from
Woodward
and
maple,
where
I
could
just
go
over
and
pick
them
up,
so
I
wouldn't
say
I.
Did
it
all
the
time,
but
I
didn't
most
of
the
time
and
preponderance
of
the
time
I
just
took
the
bus
down.
It
was
easier
to
have
to
worry
about
parking.
B
I
could
do
all
the
good
things
you
hear,
and
you
know
the
first
couple
years.
Detroit
would
not
let
Smart
Stop
within
the
city
limits,
so
you
would
have
to
stop
and
transfer
to
Fairgrounds,
and
you
know
I
would
do
that
within
and
wait
around
I.
Did
it
in
zero
degree
temperature
did
it
once
in
the
summer
when
it
was
well
overnight.
I
was
at
one
where
we
stopped
at
a
stop.
B
You
know
at
a
bus
stop
and
it
was
a
giant
crowd
and
they
only
lost
so
many
people
on
and
closed
the
door
and
the
crowd
began
to
hammer
on
the
bus
and
rock
it
I.
Remember
thinking
okay
I'm
going
to
be
here,
for
you
know:
Detroit
Riot,
you
know
on
a
number
2.0
here.
This
is
how
these
things
start,
but
the
bus
driver
inched
around
and
got
out
and
I
hope
they
sent
another
bus
to
get
those
poor
people
who
were
waiting
in
their
there
when
it
was
98
Degrees.
B
So
you
know
I'm
real
aware
of
the
physical
layout
of
the
bus,
stops
that
take
you
at
least
on
Woodward
Avenue,
because
those
are
I,
rode
them.
In
fact,
if
you
really
want
to
do
that,
you
can
pick
up
the
bus
and
ride
it
down
and
get
off
at
the
DIA
and
go
to
chartreuse,
and
you
don't
have
to
care
how
much
you
drink.
You
can
go
pick
it
up
again
going
home.
L
This
is
an
Oakland
County
millage
to
provide
solutions
for
Oakland
County
residents
and
for
me,
I'm,
looking
forward
to
taking
a
bus
to
downtown
Rochester
to
attend,
Fire
and
Ice,
so
that
I
don't
have
to
make
that
miserable
drive
up.
Rochester
Road,
so
you
know
like
there
are
opportunities
within
our
County
to
get
to
places
that
people
would
like
to
go.
B
B
Was
going
to
be
my
next
question,
as
you
mentioned
the
Queue
at
the
queue
line
and
all
that
it's
there's
always
a
back
and
forth
between
regionalism,
of
course,
in
county
and
the
this
new,
the
the
new
past
millage
is
aggressively
County
oriented
and
one
thing
we
always
had
a
question.
We
always
worried
about
with
RTA
and
all
is
County
money
going
to
subsidize
non-county
entities
in
none
County
providers.
How
you
know
how
Regional
are
you
going
to
get
on
this
or
not
Regional
at
all,.
L
I
think
I
think
that
this
was
the.
This
is
what
was
so
effective
about
the
millage
that
you
put
on
the
ballot
that
it
was
a
solution
for
Oakland,
County
I.
Think
that
as
we
expand
and
improve
on
transit
services
within
Oakland
County,
that
that
will
have
a
positive
impact
in
the
region.
For
example,
you
know
once
we
can
get
Workers
out
to
Novi
who
need
to
take
a
bus
to
get
out
there.
You
know
they
may
live
in
Southfield
or
Oak
Park
or
Royal
Oak,
but
they
might
live
in
Detroit
as
well.
L
So
it
is
going
to
have
a
positive
impact
on
the
region
when
we
are
improving
services
for
Oakland
County,
but
it
is
focused
on
Oakland
County
and
is
focused
on
improving
services
in
Oakland,
County
and
Brett
and
I
are
going
to
be.
You
know
very,
very
conscientious
on
the
Smart
Board
that
you
know
when
it
comes
to
making
enhancements
that
smart
makes.
For
example,
we
don't
want
to
pay
any
more
of
the
freight
that
we
should
be
paying
of
things
that
service
the
region
and
I'll.
Give
you
an
example
of
that.
C
L
L
Has
some
Investments
like
we
found
with
our
own
buildings
right
that
need
to
be
improved
and
I
can
understand
if
that
Transit
Center
is
primarily
for
Oakland
County
Transit
that
we
would
pay
for
a
big
portion
of
it,
but
on
the
other
hand
the
I.T
is
centered
there
as
well.
So
if
RIT
division
is
out
there
for
smart
well,
then
that
impacts,
Wayne
and
and
and
Macomb
as
well,
so
we're
going
to
make
sure
that,
even
though
we're
contributing
you
know
we're
raising
more
money
from
Oakland
County
that
that
it's
spent
effectively
how.
B
Are
you
going
to
firewall
it?
I
know
that
was
smart.
We
would
you
know
we
had
turned
over
to
smart
and
if
that
meant,
Woodward
Avenue
going
up
and
down
Woodward
Avenue.
We
didn't
worry
too
much
about
that,
because
you
know
people
from
you
know
like
I,
get
on
and
up
up
Woodward
and
ride
down
to
Royal,
Oak
or
sometimes
right
down
to
downtown
Detroit
or
they
would
drive
up
and
down.
There
was
no
real
concern
about
firewalling
it
within
smart.
Are
you
going
to
have
to
firewall
it
now?
L
You
know
currently
there's
about
32
million
dollars
spent
by
Smart
in
Oakland
County,
so
when
we
draft
up
the
contract
and
and
and
think
through
the
services
that
are
that
are
provided,
you
know
we're
working
through
that
balance
right
now,
in
terms
of
how
detailed
you
know
they'll,
they
will
for
your
consideration.
You
know:
they'll
inventory
the
services
that
they're
providing
what
we're
paying
for.
B
Because
then,
to
Decor
it
over
something
like
this,
so
all
right!
Well,
you
know
the
the
Brave
New
World,
like
I,
said
I'm
not
going
to
obstruct
it.
The
voters
have
spoken,
but
I
look
forward
to
seeing
seeing
how
we
get
more
service
and,
like
you
said,
I
driving
going
from
where
you
live
to
Rochester
and
that
that's
going
to
be
it's
going
to
be
an
interesting,
interesting
thing.
But
you
know
please
it's
very
easy
for
all
of
you
to
get
to
Birmingham.
K
Thank
you,
I
just
want
to
pass
along
I
I
had
two
people
that
I
talked
to.
This
is
prior
to
the
election.
Regarding
the
millage,
one
took
a
came
from
Macomb
County,
East
Point
and
was
coming
to
Madison
Heights,
and
he
had
to
weigh
that
two
different
bus
stops
for
well
over
an
hour.
In
one
case
that
was
an
hour
and
20
minutes.
K
I
I
would
hope
that
scheduling
is
going
to
be
improved
so
that
it
doesn't
take
a
half
a
day
to
get
to
work.
For
example,.
D
The
only
thing
they
need
is
to
say
download
the
app
and
everything
needs
to
drive
folks
to
the
app
it's
not
searchable
on
any
app
store.
You
know
you
can't
type
in
Oakland,
County,
smart.
It
takes
you
to
all
these
other
things,
so
just
streamlining
that
is
going
to
be
something
I'm
going
to
be
looking
looking
hard
for
and
when
I
called,
because,
of
course,
I
called
and
I
was
very
upset
and
I
said
I.
D
Just
so
happen
to
be
a
county
commissioner:
I
don't
drop
I,
don't
name
drop
often,
but
on
that
one
I
did
because
I
felt
like
I
felt
like
I
was
stranded
and
it
was
a
very
unsettling
experience.
I
ended
up
taking
a
cab
which
was
like
very
expensive
so
but
I'm
looking
forward
to
the
progress.
This
is
what
this
is
about.
It's
just
fine-tuning
and
getting
things
right.
L
Work
well,
I
mean
you
look
Brett
and
I
are
members
of
the
Smart
Board.
We
hear
your
frustration
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
the
passage
of
this
millage
does
not
is
not
a
magic
wand
to
solving
those
issues.
Okay,
so
I
completely
share
your
concern
about
a
number
of
aspects
of
of
the
work
that
smart
does
customer
service.
L
For
example,
it's
a
frustration
of
ours
in
terms
of
the
experience
that
you
had
how
they
get
back
to
people,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
working
with
them
to
improve
that-
and
you
know
the
statistics
in
terms
of
rides
and
delays.
Yes,
I
hear
you
these.
This
will
make
us
more
part
of
the
the
fabric
of
what's
going
on
and
more
responsible
for
it,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
still
not
operating
the
buses.
L
So
I
can't
guarantee
you
I
nod
my
head,
because
I
I
will
work
on
it,
but
I
can't
guarantee
you
that
I'm
going
to
be
able
to
fix
the
scheduling
at
smart
through
this
millage.
You
know
what
I
mean
like
we
will
try.
We
know
there's
frustrations,
they
don't
have
enough
buses,
they
don't
have
enough
drivers
right
now,
so
I,
don't
know
what
that
specific
issue
was
and
I.
Don't
know
what
your
issue
was
in
terms
of
the
app
I
mean.
You
know.
L
K
One
other
comment:
if
I
can
I
I'm
curious
to
know
looking
at
buses
running
up
and
down
Woodward
Avenue,
for
example,
I
see
two
or
three
people
on
it,
but
yet
it's
a
50
passenger
bus.
Do
you
see
that
changing
at
all
where
we're
going
to
smaller
Vehicles,
it
certainly
would
be
advantageous.
L
L
G
Cavell
yeah
I
just
wanted
to
say
just
to
your
point:
Gary
I
didn't
own.
My
first
car
till
I
was
27
and
Yolanda
was
kind
enough
to
get
and
I'm
32.
So
it's
been
five
years,
but
Yolanda
was
kind
enough
to
give
me
a
ride.
When
my
current
car
was
in
the
shop
because
I
had
to
get
to
a
meeting
and
the
one
you
know
you
had
to
take
three
buses
from
where
I
lived
to
get
to
the
county
and
one
was
running
late,
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
right
stories
all
this
time.
G
So
one
I
think
I
hear
you
and
what
everyone's
saying
but
I
think
we
should
give
these
folks
some
Grace
too,
because
we
did
just
do
something
really
awesome
and
transformational
and
we
are
gonna
start
giving
them
the
tools.
They
need.
Aka
Brett,
getting
some
staff
and
us
getting
some
consultants
for
the
boc
to
be
able
to
start
putting
these
plans
into
motion
and
fixing
it
and,
as
chair
said
in
the
previous
committee,
that
he
does
want
to
make
sure
that
us
on
the
board
have
a
role
and
like
Hillary
was
saying.
G
G
So
one
thank
you
and
lastly,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
also
we
caution
ourselves
if
I
could
say
against
like
duplicativeness.
That
could
potentially
happen.
If
we,
if
we
try
to
execute
things
that
are
not
ours,
to
execute
right,
we
are
oversight.
We
are
policy.
We
are
the
purse
strings.
We
are
not
Executives,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
blend
ourselves
into
that.
I
know
what
just
wondering
keep
going.
B
A
better
duplicative
than
duplicitous,
but
yeah
if
I
can
just
you
know
once
again
nothing
to
to
answer
your
question,
and
possibly
yours
you
mentioned
it-
is
that
congratulations
because
of
this
they're
gonna
go
yell
at
you
guys,
instead
of
us
guys
on
the
ocpga
and
having
been
yelled
at
about
this
particular
one
issue
for
almost
30
years.
One
thing
I
found
in
riding
at
least
the
Woodward
bus
others
than
other
than
those
I
cannot
speak
to.
B
Is
that
like,
like
Birmingham
and
part
of
you
know,
the
Northern
end
is
at
one
end
of
it.
Downtown
Detroit
is
at
the
other
end
of
it,
and
if
you
pick
up
a
bus
pick
up
the
bus
like
at
you
know,
Grand
circus
park
or
even
down
on
Congress
there's
nobody
on
it
you're
the
only
one,
only
one
or
two
people
on
it,
but
it
fills
up
as
it
goes
so
by
the
time
you're
up
to
Palmer
wood.
You
know
Palmer,
Woods
or
whatever
that
bus
is
full
and
they're
Standing
Room.
B
B
You
will
you'll
find
yourself
once
again,
one
of
the
only
people
there
so
I'm
just
saying
yes,
it
looks
like
there's
nobody
on
it,
if
you're
looking
at
it
and
and
say
the
Bloomfield
or
Pontiac
or
whatever
or
even
down,
but
the
farther
you
go,
the
more
you
people
and
you
know
it
can
be
standing
room
only
particularly
during
rush
hour,
either
morning
or
evening
on
those
Woodward
buses.
So
you
know
everyone
would
say
well.
Gee
I
was
looking
at
the
Woodward
bus.
I
was
looking
at
a
15
there's.
B
Nobody
on
it
I
said
I
understand
that,
but
it
picks
up
as
they
go
along.
So
that's
just
the
thought.
I
got
that
I
got
asked
that
two
or
three
times
a
week
for
almost
30
years.
So
those
that's
not
an
ill.
It's
not
a
bad
question,
it's
just
it's
wherever
you
look
at
it
and
wherever
you're
viewing
the
bus
as
it
goes
down
the
line
there
and
I
offer
that
to
those
of
you
who
are
now
going
to
have
the
a
privilege
of
answering
all
those
questions.
J
Oh
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
point:
I'm
hoping
with
doing
this-
that
they
will
find
bus
drivers
because
Oakland
County
Parks
can't
the
schools
can't
find
bus
drivers
I.
Think
it's
going
to
be
a
huge
issue.
The
school
last
year
had
to
be
like
every
other
three
weeks
we
had
no
buses.
In
fact
they
would
say
your
kid
is
not
picked
up
today
and
it
would
be
they
would
separate
Elementary
to
Middle
School
to
high
school
too.
J
So
you
know
some
moms
had
a
drive,
no
matter
what,
in
the
three
weeks,
there
was
no
bus
drivers
out
there,
just
like
many
jobs,
they
are
not
being
filled
and
I
I,
don't
know
how
you're
going
to
get
bus
drivers.
That's
my
point
and
I
realized
this
past,
but
in
my
district
it
did
not
pass.
It
passed
one
Precinct
out
of
24
by
11
votes,
so
I'm,
not
even
supporting
this
I
know
it's
going
to
go
through,
but
I'm
voting.
No,
because
my
whole
District
voted
now
beside
one
11
11
votes.
C
Thank
you,
commissioner.
I
had
the
opposite
in
my
community
24
out
of
25
precincts
voted,
yes,
which
I
believe
was
a
big
surprise
to
some
of
the
folks
in
my
community
who
have
for
decades
said
we
don't
really
need
it
out
here.
59
of
our
population
voted
for
it.
So
yeah
I
completely
understand
why
you
would
vote
against
it,
representing
your.
L
Were
working,
nobody
can
I
just
say
that,
no
matter
where
you
are
in
the
county
or
how
you
voted
on
the
transit
millage
it'll
be
our
goal
to
create
a
system
that
Services
everyone,
so
whether
it's
folks
in
Hollywood
to
get
to
a
hospital
you
know
in
north,
and
that
makes
sense
to
figure
out
something
from
Genesee
to
the
northern
Oakland
County
whatever
it
might
be.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
folks
that
need
the
assistance
get
it.
C
C
Know
where
I
live,
no
matter
where
you
go
okay,
if,
if
nobody
else
has
any
other
questions
or
comments
for
these
folks,
let's
get
this
bus
moving.