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C
Long
here,
Powell
a
little
bit
late,
cavall
here,
Smith
Charles,
present
wipers.
B
D
A
All
right
at
this
time
would
everybody
please
rise
and
join
me
in
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance
I
pledge
allegiance
to
the
flag
of
the
United
States
of
America
and
to
the
Republic
for
which
it
stands.
One
nation
under
God,
indivisible
with
liberty
and
justice.
B
A
Motion
carries
minutes
are
approved
next
up.
We
have
the
approval
of
today's
agenda.
I
need
a
motion
by
commissioner
Cavell,
supported
by
commissioner
Rahman,
any
changes
or
adjustments.
Okay,
let's
prompt
the
vote
on
the
agenda.
Then.
A
Excellent
okay:
today's
agenda
is
approved
next
up.
We
have
public
comment.
That's
for
anybody
here
who
would
like
to
address
US
regarding
anything
on
the
agenda.
However,
I
will
say
if
you're
here
for
one
of
those
items
and
planning
to
speak,
you
can
wait
till
your
item
comes
up,
but
anybody
can
speak
in
public
comment
that
wishes
too.
A
So
anybody
hear
from
the
public
all
right
with
that
I'll
close
public
comment
and
we
will
move
on
to
our
recommendations,
starting
with
items
7A
to
waive
the
interest
and
fees
for
qualifying
taxpayers
from
March
1st
2023
to
April
30th
2023.
A
Are
these
receiving
files
or
no?
These
are
these
are
resolutions,
yes,
so
moved
by
commissioner
Charles,
supported
by
commissioner
Hoffman
good
morning
good
morning,.
F
This
is,
this
is
a
pretty
easy
one.
We've
done
this.
We
we
come
to
you
every
year
and
actually
maybe
we'll
ask
to
change
that,
so
it
doesn't
have
to
be
done
every
single
year,
but
under
the
general
property
tax
act,
so
every
March
1st
people
that
don't
pay
their
taxes
to
their
local
community.
Those
unpaid
taxes
come
over
to
us
to
to
collect.
F
We,
we
do
settlement
with
the
local
communities
and
cash
flow
them
and
we
become
the
collections
agent,
if
you
will
included,
are
the
summer
tax
deferments
that
are
approved
by
local
government
for
a
select
group
of
individuals,
seniors
veterans
and
disabled
members
of
our
community
who
are
on
fixed
incomes
and
require
their
income
tax
return
to
pay
their
previous
year's
taxes.
F
So
a
lot
of
you
are
probably
familiar
with
this
because
again
we
have
to
do
this
every
year,
so
it
just
it
requests
two
months
so
March
and
April
to
continue
to
defer
their
taxes
and
waive
the
fees
and
the
one
percent
monthly
interest
that
is
added
and
that's
per
the
general
property
tax
act.
So
we
don't
have
a
a
choice
in
that
and
so
we're
that's.
Why
we're
here
today
you
have
the
the
resolution
in
front
of
you.
E
F
F
Office
too,
when
we
have
those
taxpayer
assistance
meetings
when
we're
talking
to
people
yeah,
just
as
an
FYI
I
mean
the
the
numbers
is
really
low.
F
Just
looking
at
the
dollar
amount
that
was
waived
in
so
last
year,
so
we're
looking
at
2021
when
it
rolled
over
last
year,
that's
770
dollars
for
March
and
by
April
it
was
just.
It
was
ninety
one
hundred
dollars,
so
you
know
we're
talking
about
a
really
low
amount,
but
this
helps
people.
F
You
know
that
our
seniors
veterans,
disabled
and
it
doesn't.
You
know
it
they're-
still
paying
their
taxes
right,
but
it's
just
this
deferment.
So
you
know:
we've
we've
never
had
any
issues
in
the
past
and
again
we're
trying
to
notify
everyone
that
might
be
eligible
for
this.
So
I
guess.
The
only
question
is
if
we
would
want
to
the
only
change
that
we
would
obviously
it's
up
to
you
to
make
that
decision.
I
know
in
other
counties.
F
They
actually
do
this,
so
it's
in
perpetuity.
So
this
is
just
standard,
so
we
don't
have
to
pass
a
resolution
every
time.
That's
up
to
you.
If
anyone
would
want
to
amend
it
to
say
that.
F
Happy
to
see
you,
if
that's
you
know
the
prerogative
of
the
of
the
committee,
but
other
than
that.
That's
you
know
it's
pretty
straightforward.
I
H
E
A
Do
we
want
to
amend
the
motion
to
say
that
going
forward?
This
should
be
just
a
receiving
file
report,
or
do
we
want
to
I.
A
H
J
J
I
would
like
to
make
a
move
motion
to
pass
this,
but
or
make
it
so
that
we
don't
have
to
do
this
every
year
and
that
we
can
just
receive
and
file
as
a
communication
from
their
office
at
the
relevant
committee
meeting.
Can.
C
B
D
F
C
F
B
F
So
we
you
know,
we
haven't
got
to
that
point
yet
right
so
March
31st
is
the
deadline
for
people
to
pay
or
get
on
a
repayment
schedule
with
us,
but
the
the
numbers
that
come
that
are
subject
to
foreclosure
are
lower
right
now
than
they
were
last
year.
F
So
I
can
tell
you
that,
but
we
won't
know
the
final
number
until
the
end
of
March,
but
you
know
and
I'll
come
I'm
going
to
come
talk
to
the
caucuses,
about
the
work
that
we're
doing
like
we
did
last
year,
but
obviously
there's
new
members,
but
we
have
you
know
a
really
extensive
outreach
program
that
we're
doing
to
make
sure
people
know
to
reach
out
to
us
right
like,
as
we've
said
this
many
times
and
we'll
continue
to
say
it
right.
Our
goal
is
not
to
foreclose
on
properties
right.
F
We
want
people
and
businesses,
we
want
them
to
continue
to
own
and
live
and
work
in
in
these
facilities
or
in
their
houses,
and
but
we
need
to
have
a
conversation
with
them
right.
So
if
we
don't
know-
and
we
never
hear
from
them-
we
can't
help
them.
So
we
do
a
really
proactive
Outreach
so
that
people
know,
but
the
first
step
is
just
to
call
we
just.
We
want
people
to
call
and
I
actually
had
a
conversation.
F
Yesterday
with
a
reporter
with
the
Oakland
Press
and
said
you
know
the
bottom
line
right,
we
had
it.
We
had
an
interview,
talk
about
everything
she
said
like.
What's
the
number
one
thing
you
want
to
convey
to
people-
and
we
said:
is
that
we're
here
to
help
just
you
have
to
call
you
have
to
reach
out
to
us,
and
so
that's
something
I
would
encourage
all
of
you
in
your
communities
and
we
did
this
last
year
and
we
can
do
it
again
anytime.
F
You
want,
if
you
want
a
list
of
those
Parcels
that
are
subject
to
foreclosure,
so
that
you
can
yep
I
know,
commissioner
Hoffman
will
go
knock
on
their
door
directly.
So
anyone
else
that
wants
to
do
that.
You
know
we
would
partner
with
you
to
do
that,
but
you
know
we're
really
trying
to
reach
out
to
people
to
make
sure
that
people
save
their
their
properties.
I
H
H
H
We
do
too,
and
the
appeal
has
failed
previously,
so
we
think
the
judge
is
going
to
shut
it
down.
The
claims
period
is
open
until
March
1st,
so
so
people
can
continue
to
file
claims
until
March
1st
we're
hoping
that
motion
will
be
heard
by
March
1st
and
we
can
start
paying
out
during
the
month
of
March.
Okay,.
A
F
We'll
talk
to
them
and
see
what
we
can
share
all
right,
yeah,
but
you
know
the
the
actual
class.
This
is
public
right,
I
mean
this
is
public
information.
F
So
that's
what
we're
hoping
I
mean.
We
have
the
you
know
Kyle's
here
and
he
can
talk
about
this
as
well,
but
we
have
the
money
and
it's
it's
waiting
just
for
the
you
know
the
the
class
to
be
signed
off
on
and
for
us
to
start
sending
payments
to
these
people
and.
H
Then,
secondarily,
foreclosures
from
last
year
follow
a
different
process
for
more
urgent,
and
so
those
will
get
heard.
Starting
February
1st
by
a
circuit
court
judge
to
be
paid
out
for
the
people
that
filed
claims
last
year.
Okay,.
E
I
D
Just
want
to
say,
as
a
workaround
for
us,
we
can
go
to
oakgov.com,
yes,
forward,
slash,
boc
and
just
use
the
meeting
resources
there
and
those
do
seem
to
load
just
pretty
good
too.
Please.
G
A
Mean
okay
motion,
Carries
On,
The,
Wave
interest
and
fees
for
qualifying
taxpayers
from
March
1st
to
April
30th
all
right
next
up
on
our
agenda
is
the
Webster
school
project
with
Micah
6
community
I
need
a
motion,
Mr
Powell,
supported
by
commissioner
weipert.
L
We're
going
to
go
from
there,
hello,
everyone,
congratulations
for
everybody
who
just
won
election
or
maybe
was
re-elected
I
know.
If
your
organization
is
anything
like
mine,
Finance
is
the
committee
everyone
fights
for
so
thanks
for
being
here,
my
name
is:
did
it
hit
you
later?
Is
that
a
good
text?
L
My
name
is
director
at
Micah
6
Community.
We
are
a
small
but
quickly
growing
Community,
Development
organization,
working
on
the
west
side
of
Pontiac
we've
been
there
for
10
years,
I
have
a
number
of
teammates
around
the
room:
Katie
Dylan
Catherine,
a
number
of
neighbors
who
have
joined
us
as
well.
L
Madonna
van
fossen,
one
of
my
board
members
Belinda
Paul,
is
our,
which
is
the
neighbor
Paul
is
our
architect
so
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
people
in
the
room
who
know
a
lot
about
this
project
and
who
are
probably
also
looking
forward
to
saying
their
piece
about
it.
Just
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
background,
we
purchased
this
building
in
2017.,
so
Webster
Elementary
School
is
a
large
Elementary
School.
Here
in
Pontiac
you
probably
drive
past
it
all
the
time
it's
on
M59.
L
It
is
a
frontage
property
right
on
that
busy
Corridor
53
000
square
feet.
26
classrooms
is
built
in
1920
closed
in
2006
and
it's
sad
empty.
Since
then
we
acquired
the
building
in
27
teen.
We
knew
we
wanted
to
build
a
community
center
Pontiac
used
to
have
six
community
centers
and
now
it
has
zero,
and
this
is
something
that
comes
up
all
the
time
in
the
Parks
and
Rec
master
plan
and
the
land
use
plan
in
the
city
moving
forward
plan.
L
It
is
a
perennial
issue
that
comes
up
over
and
over
and
again
that
the
city
needs
more
community
centers
and
it
doesn't
need
just
one,
but
we
were
willing
to
jump
in
and
try
and
be
the
first
we
surveyed
our
neighborhood,
so
we
purchased
the
building
we
spent
a
year
talking
to
our
neighbors
asking.
What
do
you
want
to
see
in
a
community
center
community
center
is
a
pretty
ambiguous
thing,
like
does
that
mean
what
sort
of
services
whatever
we
interviewed?
L
224
people
from
our
census
tract
that's
people
within
a
walking
distance
of
this
building,
and
we
asked
all
the
questions.
How
much
do
we
care
about
the
building?
If
we
knock
down
the
building
and
build
something
new,
do
we
care
if
we
change
the
name?
If
we
do,
you
know
what
sort
of
services?
What
sort
of
tenants
ask
a
lot
of
these
questions?
224
people
responded
to
that
survey
and
the
four
main
focus
areas
that
people
wanted
to
see
were:
arts
and
culture,
health
and
wellness
entrepreneurship
and
youth
activities.
L
One
of
the
highest
you
know
check.
Mark
things
on
our
long
list
of
surveys
was
kids
need
a
place
to
play
basketball
in
the
winter
that
you
know
in
the
summer.
L
You
can
roll
a
goal
out
to
the
street,
but
in
the
winter,
when
everything's
ice,
what
are
our
kids
doing,
and
so
that
was
one
of
the
the
most
popular
responses
that
we
got
so
we
took
those
and
we
went
out
and
we
talked
to
organizations
and
we
talked
to
tenants
and
we
talked
to
service
providers
and
we
said
hey:
if
we
renovate
this
building,
would
you
want
to
move
in
and
be
a
tenant
and
so
right
away?
We
had
a
number
of
organizations
that
jump
in
and
said.
L
Yes,
we
are
really
excited
about
this,
and
a
lot
of
their
logos
on
a
lot
of
their
names
are
up
on
the
screen
right
now.
A
lot
of
them
are
organizations
that
also
serve
your
districts
that
also
serve
the
communities
that
you
all
reside
in
also
wants
to
put
in
six
Head
Start
classrooms
on
our
community
health
is
going
to
put
in
a
walk-in
clinic
in
that
neighborhood.
The
art
experience,
says
art
therapy
and
they're
going
to
be
removing
their
programs.
In
there.
L
The
Pontiac
Community
Foundation
is
opening
a
small
business
incubator
in
this
space,
not
focusing
on
becoming
something
like
Tech,
town
or
pony
ride
or
green
garage,
but
really
working
with
people
in
that
Community,
who
want
to
get
a
little
something
going
that
maybe
they've
been
running
for
a
long
time
as
a
side
hustle
like
a
lawn
business
or
a
small
food
business.
L
There's
a
large
Kitchen
in
that
building
that
we're
going
to
turn
into
a
small
business,
incubator
kitchen,
and
so
these
sorts
of
things
so
Pontiac
Community,
Foundation,
walking,
alongside
of
them,
to
help
them
sort
of
develop
their
businesses.
Pal
is
going
to
be
putting
in
their
offices
there
and
then
running
basketball,
volleyball
and
martial
arts.
L
There
is
a
Auditorium
in
this
building,
so
that's
sort
of
the
tenant,
that's
the
tenant
makeup
and
we
have
letters
of
commitment
from
all
these
organizations.
A
hundred
percent
of
our
space
is
committed.
We
know
who's
going
into
every
room
and
our
architect
firm
has
sat
down
with
all
those
tenants
to
talk
about
the
build
out
for
their
room.
We
know
who's
coming.
We're
really
excited
about
that.
So
we
are
here
to
talk
about
arpa
funds,
which
I
accidentally
called
arap.
L
I
wrote
this
at
three
o'clock
in
the
morning,
so
you
know
we're
we're
talking
about
an
allocation
of
arpa
funds
from
the
county
to
really
put
us
over
the
top.
L
So
a
number
of
you
know
if
you
looked
at
the
requirements
and
I'm
sure
that
you
all
have,
as
you
are
the
finance
committee
there's
a
long
list
of
things
that
qualify
for
arpa
funds,
so
things
like
sites
that
are
going
to
do
covet
tests
and
vaccines,
medical
facilities,
spaces
for
non-profits
and
small
businesses,
particularly
in
low-income
and
struggling
communities,
spaces
that
mitigate
food
insecurity,
we're
putting
a
small
grocery
store
in
this
building.
There's
already
three
greenhouses
on
the
on
the
playground
that
we've
been
managing
for
a
number
of
years.
L
We
grow
six
thousand
pounds
of
food
on
the
playground
at
this
building
right
now,
Sprout
fresh
food
store
is
our
small
vegetable
store
a
couple
blocks
away?
It's
going
to
move
in
and
expand
to
become
a
small
grocery
we've
seen
our
neighborhood
since
we've
started
our
work
start
trending
down
in
terms
of
its
food
scarcity.
L
Putting
in
a
grocery
store
in
this
building,
even
a
small
one,
will
take
this
building
off
the
food
desert
list
or
this
neighborhood
off
the
food
desert
list
completely
really
excited
about
improvements
to
Transportation
infrastructure,
the
starting
from
the
hospital
moving
West
in
Pontiac
on
M59.
There
are
no
covered
bus
stops.
My
neighbors
getting
pneumonia
standing
outside
in
November
and
December
and
February
and
March
waiting
for
buses
that
may
or
may
not
be
coming
might
have
already
come,
might
be
running
late.
L
My
neighbors
get
sick
and
so
we're
putting
in
and
in
their
bus
is
about
to
arrive,
walk
out
and
jump
on
the
bus,
child
care
and
daycare
six
Head
Start
classrooms
coming
into
this
building,
as
well
as
a
WIC
office,
all
managed
by
Olsa
Workforce
training.
That's
the
Pontiac
Community
Foundation
portion
working
on
people
who
are
starting
small
businesses,
parks
and
green
spaces.
So
if
you
have
a
six
acre
lawn,
we've
got
a
garden
in
the
back
already.
L
There
are
a
number
of
outdoor
facilities
and
playgrounds
that
are
going
to
be
coming
as
part
of
this
development.
Anything
that
decreases
disparities
in
public
health,
the
yeah,
a
rehabilitation
of
vacant
spaces
in
urban
communities.
So
you
know
in
terms
of
all
these
different
things
that
arpa
funds
can
be
used,
for
we
do
all
those
here's
the
funding
piece.
This
is
a
25
million
dollar
renovation.
L
It's
a
big
building,
it's
a
big
building,
that's
not
empty
and
vacant.
For
a
long
time,
we
have
been
working
really
hard
to
one.
You
know
we
spent
that
year
asking
our
neighbors
what
we
want,
then
we
sort
of
took
that
dream
and
we
said,
is
this
feasible?
We
spent
a
year
running
a
feasibility
study
on
this
finding
out
what
are
rents.
Where
are
we
going
to
be
able
to
set
rents?
Our
organization
is
going
to
be
able
to
afford
that.
L
We
have
found
a
number
that
everybody
agrees
to
everybody's
happy
with,
and
so
we
are.
We
have
all
that
figured
out.
This
building
will
support
itself
once
it's
built.
This
is
not
something
where
I'll
keep
coming
back
over
and
over
again
asking
for
funding
to
support
this
building
and
operations
and
all
that
stuff.
We
just
need
to
get
it
built
and
then
it
supports
itself.
L
This
is
a
breakdown
of
some
of
our
our
funding
sources.
New
Market
and
historical
tax
credits.
Commitments
are
in
hand.
We've
raised
a
couple
million
dollars
already
from
private
sources.
That's
enhanced!
We
moving
down
here.
Some
tenants
are
contributing
to
their
spaces.
That
money
is
already
committed.
L
The
last
piece
and
so
you'll
see
medc
loan
and
medc
rap
Grant,
the
Michigan
Economic,
Development,
commission
or
Council
Corporation
issues.
Their
letter
of
intent
tomorrow
and
I
really
tried
to
have
that
for
this
meeting,
but
they
say:
oh,
we
drop
them
on
Thursdays,
so
their
letter
is
coming
out
tomorrow
for
their
portion,
which
is
9
million.
The
part
that
we
are
talking
about
today
is
the
last
5
million,
and
we
just
need
that
if
we
have
that,
we
can
wrap
it
up
and
be
done
today.
L
There
are
two
organizations,
so
if
you'll
see
the
Gap
up
here
sort
of
about
halfway
down,
we
have
two
foundations
who
are
waiting
on
how
this
meeting
goes
and
how
next
Thursday's
meeting
goes
to
jump
in
and
finish
that
last
800
000..
But
what
we're
talking
about
is
this
last
5
million.
This
is
not
a
project
that
was
created
when
we
found
out
that
arpa
funds
exist.
This
is
something
we
were
already
working
on.
This
is
not
something
that
stops
helping
when
the
money
runs
out.
L
This
building
will
be
here
for
a
hundred
years
and
we
hope
we'll
be
serving
people
for
another
100
years.
You
know
beyond
me:
this
isn't
a
food
program
that,
when
the
funding
runs
out,
it
also
shuts
down
the
the
funding
we
need
is
just
this
last
shot
in
the
arm
to
get
us
over
the
finish
line.
To
get
this
building
built
where
we
are
today,
our
architectural
drawings
and
bid
documents
are
out.
We
just
had
a
a
contractor's
meeting
this
past
Friday,
targeting
in
particular
minority
owned
contractors,
get.
L
Them
see
the
bid
documents,
we
really
want
to
hire
local
businesses
and
minority-owned
businesses
to
be
the
contractors
on
this
project.
We
had
about
40
contractors
that
were
at
that
event.
Lazarus
was
one
of
those
contractors.
He
was
there
for
that
event,
we're
excited
a
hundred
percent
of
our
tenants.
Are
arpa
aligned,
tenants,
they're,
going
to
be
providing
services
that
these
funds
are
meant
to
fund,
which
is
really
exciting.
L
Our
environmental
work
and
Remediation
is
almost
finished,
so
there
is
they
just
punched
a
hole
in
the
parking
lot
this
week
so
that
we
can
get
some
junk
out
of
the
basement.
The
building
has
been
listed
on
the
National
Historic
registry.
We
are
on
the
historic
registry
that
took
about
a
year
to
do
and
that's
where
our
historical
tax
credits
are
coming
from
getting
that
building
listed.
L
Because
of
that,
we
have
to
adhere
to
a
number
of
items
that
they
that
the
department
of
interior
wants
us
to
do
and
Renovations
that
we
have
to
do
to
that
building,
but
they
are
funding
a
lot
of
those
Renovations,
which
is
great.
We
are
ready
to
break
ground,
April
10th.
This
building
will
open
August
of
23
or
24
rather,
and
our
tenants
are
ready
to
move
in.
L
We
have
a
real
push
to
make
to
get
them
in
by
then,
because
Head
Start
needs
to
be
in
in
August
in
order
to
start
helping
kids
on
September
1st.
So
that's
our
that's
our
goal
and
that's
the
timeline
that
we're
holding
to
for
project
completion
benefits
of
this
project.
Pontiac
has
a
community
center.
We
expect
to
serve
16
000
people
through
200
000
visits.
L
The
building
is
an
iconic
building
on
Huron,
everybody
drives
past
it
and
it
is
the
first
iconic
building
you
drive
on.
If
you
are
coming
West
on
M59,
you
pass
it
and
you
go
what
a
sad
large
building
it
could
be
really
beautiful.
This
means
a
lot
for
the
corridor.
There
was
an
MSU
study
done
of
the
corridor
a
couple
months
ago.
That
said
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
vital
piece
of
the
sort
of
the
reinvigoration
of
that
M59
Corridor
across
Pontiac.
It
has
Economic
Development
implications
as
well
as
Community
implications.
L
This
Project's
going
to
inspire
other
projects.
There
are
a
number
of
vacant
apartment
buildings
within
a
couple
blocks
of
this
building
that
families
are
going
to
want
to
live
in
once
the
project
is
done.
If
you
could
live
two
blocks
from
a
community
center,
that's
a
big
deal.
That's
really
exciting
means
a
lot
for
our
neighbors
and
our
neighborhood
kids.
L
Our
neighborhood
becomes
more
resilient.
That
covid
especially
showed
us
how
important
this
project
is
for
neighborhoods
like
ours,
that
our
neighborhood
would
have
fared
a
lot
better.
Had
we
had
a
health
clinic
close
had
we
had
Outreach
clothes?
Have
we
had
food
programs?
Close
I
mean
Sprout
and
our
organization
handed
out
16
000
bags
of
free
produce
through
the
pandemic,
but
to
have
a
hub
where
we
could
have
organized
that
and
done
that
a
lot
better
and
a
lot
more
succinctly
would
have
been
a
big
deal
for
our
neighborhood.
L
We
were
a
pretty
high
impacted
census
tract
and
something
like
this
would
have
really
helped,
and
that's
the
point
of
these
funds,
that's
what
it's
for.
So
that's
what
we're
asking
for.
We've
asked
for
5
million,
and
that
would
finish
the
project
much
less.
We
got
to
start
cutting
off
some
pretty
pretty
important,
Limbs
and
appendages
for
this
thing,
but
we're
willing
to
have
that
conversation
have
a
number
of
neighbors
here
as
well.
Is
this
the
time
that
they
can
speak
about
this
project
as
well.
A
B
B
M
I
have
been
in
Pontiac
for
like
five
years,
especially
around
Mr,
Yocum
and
Micah
six.
This
would
really
help
and
benefit
a
lot
of
single
parents.
People
without
cars
I
have
eight
children,
and
it
was
very,
very
hard
trying
to
find
resources
got
a
lot
of
rides
from
them
in
there.
Individuals
that
help
so
I'm
pushing
for
this
and
I'm
pretty
sure
a
lot
more
people
is
pushing.
M
A
N
We
kids
have:
they
literally
had
no
place
to
go
play
basketball,
especially
in
the
winter.
They
already
didn't.
Have
that
much
great
like
after
school
programs
or
anything
like
that
that
they
can
go
to
so
they
did
end
up
graduating
high
school.
N
None
of
them
I
believe
that
when
they
bring
this
to
the
neighborhood
it'll
help
my
grandkids,
because
I
know
for
a
fact
if
they
have
some
place
to
go
someplace
to
read
somebody
to
help
them
I'm,
not
that
great
with
sounds
vowels
than
any
of
that,
but
if
somebody
else
can
come
to
your
neighborhood
and
help
them
learn
how
to
read
I
already
know,
my
future
will
be
okay
with
them.
You
know,
but
I
don't
have
nowhere
else
and
they've
helped
me
out.
They
help
me
out
with
rides.
N
They've
helped
me
out
with
with
food
with
it's
been
a
hard
years,
it's
been
hard,
but
we
need
this
community
center.
N
So
if
you
don't
have
someplace
to
go,
have
them
play
basketball?
Have
them.
You
know
to
soccer
having
to
kick
whatever
kickboxing,
whatever
it
is,
they're
gonna
do
then
they're
going
to
get
in
trouble.
Those
are
the
ones
who
are
going
to
go
to
jail.
Those
are
the
ones
are
going
to
get
shot.
Those
are
the
ones
are
not
going
to
get
educated
and
they're
the
ones
who
are
going
to
be
in
the
same
pay
rate
as
everybody
else,
which
is
practically
nothing
and
just
barely
making
it.
N
You
know
I
want
my
I
want
I
want
my
grandkids
to
be
better
than
what
I
was
because
that's
what
you
go
for.
You
want
your
grandkids
to
always
be
even
your
kids,
especially
your
kids,
but
you
want
them
to
get
better
each
time,
so
this
community
center
I'm
pushing
for
it.
You
know
I
know
my
grandkid
didn't
even
know
how
to
really
read
and
he's
already.
N
Eight
so
and
I
can't
help
with
bottles,
because
I
think
it
sounds
like
this,
but
it's
not
bad,
so
I
know
I'm
messing
about
it,
but
Michael
says
helped
me.
You
know
they
go
to
tutoring
over
there.
Yes,
and
so
then
they're
like
oh,
no
and
he'll,
come
to
me
like
no
grandma.
You
were
wrong.
Well,
I'm!
Sorry,
Spanish
is
different.
Okay,
so
they've
been
helping
them
so
they've.
Actually
they
got
a
Bernardino
got
a
little
rewards.
I
mean
a
award
saying
he
learned
this
in
his
files
and
he
learned
this
in
the
sound.
N
So
you
know
it's
going
better
for
him
and
Catalina
she's.
She
has
tonic
seizures
and
epileptic.
So
her
sounds
already
messed
up.
I'm
like
please
don't
let
me
teach
her
that
one
so
they've
helped
me
with
that.
You
know
which
she's
getting
better
at
it.
You
know-
and
this
is
gonna
help
out.
You
know.
I
I
really
think
it's
great
and
buy
food
there.
You
know
no
pesticides,
so
it's
really
good.
N
This
is
this
is
a
great
project
and
I
really
want
this
project
to
be
here,
because
it's
literally
right
across
the
street
like
you
can
go
and
they
can
be
safe
and
then
I
can
you
know,
get
a
job
and
then
I
don't
have
to
worry
about
daycare,
because
daycare
is
the
hardest
thing,
because
there's
nobody
wants
to
take
care
of
a
child,
who's,
epileptic
and
tonic
seizure.
Nobody
wants
to
I,
don't
care
who
you
are
a
daycare.
They
look
at
you
like
your
liability.
N
You
know
they
don't
want
to,
because
Catalina
can
be
fine,
one
minute
and
then
later
just
start
seizing
up
and
then
the
school
freaked
out
the
school
didn't
know
what
to
do.
People
were
just
like,
they
called
ambulance,
but
it's
not
the
same.
Nobody
wants
to
so
it's
hard
for
certain
parents
with
kids
who
have
disabilities.
You
know
it's
hard
and
I.
Don't
want
him
or
her
to
not
to
graduate.
N
Doesn't
it
doesn't
make
sense.
So
that
means
that
from
which
I
had
an
epiphany
before
I
spent,
you
know
before
I
asked
him.
I
asked
him.
I
said,
look
I,
think
I
just
had
an
epiphany.
My
my
grandkids
are
not
going
to
graduate
because
I
don't
know
the
sounds
and
I
can't
even
help
them
with
homework
anyways,
because
I
I
can't
there's
nothing.
I
can
do
they
can
help
them
with
homework
because
I
don't
even
know
I
can
help
you
with
timetables
and
Division,
and
even
division
is
very
hard.
N
What
best
I
like
that
and
I
won't
get
there.
Unless
somebody
helps
me
and
I,
don't
want
my
grandkids
to
drop
out
I,
don't
want
them.
You
know
I,
try
very
hard
for
them
to
learn
something,
but
it's
hard
when
you,
when
you
can't
get
there,
because
my
car
I
kind
of
tries
to
kill
you
on
the
road
it
it
throttles
on
its
own.
It
wants
to
take
off
so
which
I
can't
mentioned
to
Coleman
that
don't
stand
in
front
of
my
car
because
it
tries
to
take
off.
N
A
Know
Belinda
I
I
want
to
stop
you
here,
just
because
we
have
a
lot
of
business
to
do,
but
I
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
you
represent
a
lot
of
people
just
like
yourself
in
your
own
neighborhood,
and
it's
really
important
that
you
came
here
and
told
us
what
it's
like
living
in
Pontiac
without
a
lot
of
services.
Right
now
and
I
appreciate
that
you're
here
and
thank
you
for
coming.
B
A
O
O
It's
very
inspiring
to
me
personally,
just
because
meeting
him
is
has
been
very
wonderful
for
my
business
and
my
company,
because
there's
times
that
it
is
hard
to
even
establish
a
business
here,
because
you
know
just
on
the
verge
of
people
is
not
really
in
tune
with
hiring
minority
companies
here
in
the
city
of
Pontiac,
as
though
as
they
should,
but
even
when
I
don't
believe
that
he
even
knew
about
the
struggle
that
my
company
was
actually
being
in
where
he'll
call
and
say,
hey,
I
got
a
project
for
you,
I
have
another
project
for
you
and
it
always
has
been
a
blessing
and
tremendous
that
he
has
established
that
relationship
with
me
and
I
know.
O
The
school
will
impact
this
community
because
it
was
a
school
back
in
the
day
that
I
had
to
run
to
for
safety.
You
know
being
taken
away
from
foster
care
and
I
didn't
want
anyone
to
take
me
or
my
family,
so
I
called
my
brothers
and
I
told
them.
Let's
all
meet
at
Webster
School
and
everybody.
Where
are
we
gonna,
go
we're
going
to
go?
O
I
said,
let's
just
go
to
my
classroom
so
that
morning
we
ran
to
my
classroom,
but
we
couldn't
be
defeated,
so
they
took
us
out
of
that
school.
So
from
that
point
on
years,
went
by
Foster
Care
went
by
and
to
come
back
and
see
it
condemned
was
really
like
a
passionate
thing.
I
was
like
wow,
you
know
that's
a
school
of
safety,
that's
the
school
of
light
and
I
was
always
you
always
ride
past
it,
no
matter
what
just
to
get
that
that
memory
of
a
brick
being
in
safety.
O
So
what
initially
happened
you
know,
I
went
to
school.
Graduated
became
a
certified
licensed
electrician
here
and,
and
once
once
that
happened,
I
was
even
able
to
go
down
to
a
networking
event
that
he
hosted
just
this
past,
Friday
to
say:
hey,
we
are
inviting
you
out
to
actually
be
a
a
bidder
on
this
project
and
it
just
brought
tears
to
my
eyes.
O
That's
why
I
said
it's
easier
to
cry
up
here,
because
it's
a
reflection
of
Pontiac
and
it's
very
historic
to
me
and
I
believe
to
others,
because
me
even
having
a
small
child
that
one
years
old
I
can
I
can
actually
show
him
that
this
is
where
your
dad
was.
You
know,
in
the
height
of
the
middle
of
the
elementary
school
that
I
actually
went
to
for
safety
and
I
know
when
you
go
here,
you
will
be
safe
too.
A
A
L
I
L
So
we
went
to
them
about
nine
months
ago
for
a
tax
abatement
and
they
gave
us
a
12-year
abatement
on
this
project.
What's.
L
So
it's
over
over
the
course
of
the
12
years
about
244
000..
Oh.
K
I
G
Thank
you
and
I'm
glad
to
see
school.
We
purposed
it's
a
nice
school
too
and
I
think
the
county
in
general
is
going
to
have
to
start
to
think
what
to
do
with
these
schools
too,
as
the
birth
rate
goes
down.
So
this
is
a
good
project
and
we're
gonna
have
a
lot
of
empty
schools
pretty
soon,
but
I
wondered
I,
don't
know!
You
might
have
said
this
in
your
presentation.
Are
the
tenants
going
to
pay
rent?
Yes,.
L
Okay,
renting
it'll
be
14
a
square
foot
plus
three
dollars
common
area,
maintenance.
G
Okay,
so
that
will
be
some
of
your
income
coming
back
and
then
I
wondered
on
the.
It
sounds
like
you're
kind
of
almost
to
the
end
of
the
project.
Now
was
the
infrastructure.
Where
did
that
money
come
from
like
for
your?
Was
there
a
lot
of
damage
to
the
infrastructure?
I
know
there's
boards
on
the
windows
and
stuff,
but
would
there
was
there
water
damage
and
everything
inside
yeah.
L
L
So
it
is
our
the
commission
approved
an
eagle,
Grant
and
Brownfield
partnership
a
number
of
years
ago
about
a
year
ago,
maybe
two
years
ago,
so
we've
done
most
of
their
mediation
work
inside.
At
this
point,
we
are
doing
the
the
asbestos
abatement
and
lead
abatement:
okay,
some
water
work
inside
and
then
yeah.
So
we
are
in
the
last
stages
of
putting
together
the
capital
for
the
interior,
Renovations,
okay,.
G
Well,
I
think
it's
a
great
project
and
I
do
believe
the
county
as
a
whole
is
going
to
have
to
look
at
a
lot
of
other
abandoned
schools
for
these
kind
of
projects.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
K
L
So
mayor
grandma
and
calfani
organized
very
early
and
meeting
with
the
Carpenters
Union,
and
we
definitely
we
invited
them
to
the
project.
A
number
of
other
Union
shops
as
well
and
then
Regina
Campbell
from
and
I'm
going
to
forget
the
the
all
of
the
abbrevi
Regina
Campbell
was
definitely
our
Point
person
to
reach
out
and
further
into
that
community
and
she
invited
a
number
of
them
and
a
lot
of
them
were
at
that
meeting
on
Friday.
K
B
K
L
Very
excited
they
they
have
said
they've
been
trying
to
get
I
mean
we're
not
allowed
to
say
their
name,
no,
okay,
okay,
sure.
L
Certain
organization
as
part
of
their
future
programming
has
really
helped
to
start
a
sociable
entrepreneurship
program
for
the
people
in
their
program,
and
they
want
to
use
that
space
as
the
home
for
that
program,
particularly
the
partnership
with
the
Pontiac
Community
Foundation
and
the
small
business
incubator.
Okay,.
K
As
you
all
know,
and
I
always
talk
about
all
the
issues
we
have
in
Pontiac
and
we
are
trying
to
come
to
fruition
of
adding
these
type
of
centers
in
our
community
to
give
our
residents
something
to
do,
and
this
will
be
the
first
one.
I
have
I
Meyer,
Mr
Yocum
and
his
vision
just
moving
to
the
city.
K
It
was
a
group
of
young
men
who
wanted
to
tackle
an
area
that
have
not
been
attentive
to
for
years
and
they
have
been
doing
all
the
community
service
work
in
this
area,
which
is
actually
right
across
the
street
from
our
Indian
village.
However,
this
group
has
been
doing
all
the
resourceful
work
that
is
needed
to
help
citizens
in
anything
that
they
need
help
in
and
I
can
buy
for
that,
because
I've
leaned
on
him
to
help
constituents
over
there-
and
this
group
has
done
a
phenomenal
job
on
the
west
side
of
Pontiac.
K
K
I
am
still
working
on
the
city
a
little
bit
to
kind
of
maybe
help
some
more,
but
we
had
more
promising
funding
numbers
out
of
two
months
and
I
can't
wait
to
hear
when
it
has
to
update
us
on,
but
me
and
Gwen
has
been
working
on
this
for
a
very
long
time,
Gwen,
spearheaded
it
because
she's
born
and
raised
from
Pontiac.
K
This
was
her
Elementary
School
and
we
made
it
our
business
to
make
sure
that
we
at
least
brought
them
before
to
get
to
ask
me
some
support
from
the
cop
to
help
with
this
project.
So
with
that
being
said,
I
just
pray
that
you
all
do,
support
it
and
just
know:
you're
welcome
whatever
you
get
from
us,
I
am
a
team
player
to
figure
out
the
rest.
Okay.
B
A
That
comment,
commissioner:
anybody
else
have
anything
they
want
to
ask
or
commissioner
wiper
so
tell.
Can
you
tell
me
more
about.
L
K
L
There
so
a
couple
of
things:
we
are
a
nonprofit
and
we
will
own
that
building
when
it
comes
to
buildings.
Only
the
part
of
the
building
that
is
operated
and
are
actually
occupied
by
non-profit
organizations
is
tax
exempt.
So
when
we
went
to
the
assessor's
office
and
a
number
of
different
locations,
this
was
an
old
school
building,
so
wide
hallways
so
of
the
53
000
square
feet,
there's
only
about
26
000
square
feet,
that's
rentable!
L
Most
of
those
organizations
that
are
going
to
be
in
that
spaces
are
non-profit
organizations,
so
those
spaces
are
exempt,
but
things
like
the
gym,
the
hallways
and
then
the
larger
property
that
sort
of
unoccupied
community
space
is
a
taxable
space.
So
it
is
so
it
did
come
with
a
little
bit
of
tax
bill
and
we
we
sort
of,
ran
in
a
conversation
with
a
lot
of
our
tenants
about.
L
We
could
push
those
expenses
onto
our
tenants,
move
up
rents
to
kind
of
cover
that
or
we
could
go
for
what's
called
an
Oprah,
obsolete
properties,
abatement,
and
so
we
did
that
we
went
to
the
city
on
ask
for
an
abatement
they
offered
the
administration
offered.
Six
years,
but
County
approved
a
full
12.,
you
can
only
approve
up
to
12
years,
so
the
value
of
that
is
244
000
and
that
savings
just
contributes
to
the
overall
operating
expenses
of
this
building.
A
L
We
have
had
early
conversations
with
the
city
about
it.
They
have
a
it,
issued,
a
pretty
robust
plan
for
where
all
of
their
dollars
are
going
and
they
all
seem
pretty
committed.
Thank
you.
J
Have
a
couple
questions,
but
before
I
get
there,
would
you
mind
offering
some
clarification
of
why
the
five
went
down
to
two
or
just.
A
A
little
context,
so
we're
talking
about
arpa
dollars
and
there
are
about
the
county,
has
somewhere
between
75
and
80
million
dollars,
left
of
our
full
arpa
contingent,
which
is
only
about
25
percent
of
it.
So
between
the
administration
and
the
board.
There's
been
a
lot
of
back
and
forth
about
how
this
money
is
going
to
get
spent.
A
We're
looking
at
this
project
as
kind
of
the
last
project
of
the
original
big
chunk
of
arpa
dollars
that
we're
putting
out
and
after
all,
the
back
and
forth,
and
all
the
projects
that
we
have
looking
at
us
and
talking
to
Pontiac
about,
because
they've
come
to
the
county
for
a
big
chunk
of
money
for
the
rest
of
what
they
want
to
do.
Two
million
dollars
was
what
the
executive
felt
that
they
could
do
right
now
back
and
forth.
We
originally
talked
about
5
million,
because
that
was
what
they
needed
to
be
finished.
A
But
that's
kind
of
where
the
ball
landed
was
on
two
million
dollars
and
so
I
got
in
touch
with
Coleman
yesterday
and
gave
him
that
news
and
I
mean
the
way
I'm
looking
at
it
is
it's
two
million
more
moving
up
but,
like
commissioner
Powell
says,
I'm
willing
to
work
with
you
she's
willing
to
work
with
you
to
try
and
find
some
other
sources
or
help
your
other
folks
who
still
need
to
finish.
A
Their
commitment
to
you
know,
make
it
as
robust
as
possible,
because
I
think
everybody
who
sees
this
project
knows
that
it's
what
we
want
to
do,
I,
don't
I,
don't
think,
there's
any
real
sense
of
oh!
No,
it's
not
good
enough!
It's
that
we
don't
have
unlimited
funds
and
2
million
is
where
we
felt
we
could
land
today.
Now,
thinking
about
this,
you
know
when
Coleman
and
I
talked
he
used
as
an
example.
A
If
he
had
to
pair
back,
he
might
use
he
might
not
put
up
solar
panels,
which
is
a
big
chunk
of
money
and
just
go
with
the
traditional
utilities.
However,
you
know
a
couple
three
years
from
now:
there
are
other
granting
opportunities
that
maybe
they
can
come
back
and
and
we
can
help
them
get
to
continue
to
make
this
sustainable
long
term.
So
I
mean
that's
how
we
ended
up
on
the
two
million
dollars.
I
wish
it
were
five
sure
everybody
I've
talked
to
about.
It
knows
I
wish
it
were
five,
but
I.
J
J
Commissioner,
Jackson
and
I
have
worked
a
lot
on
an
Arts
Council
and
how
we
could
create
something
like
that.
This
seems
like
a
great
opportunity
for
that.
Leanne
yesterday,
in
public
health
and
safety
talked
to
us
about
the
need
for
food
safety
and
food
access,
especially
with
the
change
in
all
the
food
stamp.
Provisions,
that's
going
to
come
from
the
federal
government.
This
sounds
like
a
great
way
to
have
better
access
to
food.
We've
talked
about
increasing
the
social
determinants
of
Health.
To
make
sure
people
are
healthier,
honor
Community
Health
would
be
here.
J
We
talk
about
Oakland
Haiti.
This
is
Rochester
University,
there's
jobs
programs.
This
sounds
like
it
falls
in
line
very
clearly
with
the
county
executive's
goals,
and
so
it's
just
a
statement
and
then
two
I
got
a
question.
You
said
you
have
two
foundations
that
you're
going
to
talk
to
that
are
given
for
800
Grand.
We.
L
L
J
Them
because,
for
the
context
you
had
about
this
being
the
last
the
first
trancha
arpa
Kyle,
tell
me
where
I
get
this
wrong,
but
looking
at
the
budget,
we
have
1.3
million
dollars
in
return
to
arpa
from
the
emergency
department
program,
where
we
gave
two
million
dollars
to
hospitals
to
do
emergency
department.
Mental
health
700
was
spent.
A
When
I
talked
to
Executive
Coulter
last
night
and
then
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Kyle,
he
actually
mentioned
another
project
in
Pontiac
related
to
Pontiac,
General,
Hospital
and
mental
health,
which
was
a
project
that
we
are
interested.
The
county
is
interested
in
pursuing,
but
it's
not
on
the
city
of
pontiac's
list
for
what
they
would
like
us
to
pair
up
arpa
dollars
for
so
it's
a
good
example
of
another
project
that
we
want
to
do
for
all
the
right
reasons.
B
P
Good
morning,
it's
good
to
see
all
of
you
at
the
first
meeting
of
the
year,
Kyle
Jen,
director
of
management
and
budget
on
the
emergency
room
piece.
I
believe
that
full
2
million
is
is
obligated
and
will
be
spent
I
think
there
was
a
lag
in
the
invoicing
and
the
payment,
so
I,
don't
believe,
there's
any
excess
funds
there
I
would
just
Echo
Echo
everything
that
chairwoman
Markham
has
said.
This
is
a
great
project.
Obviously,
and
the
county
executive
recognizes
that,
but
we
are
also.
P
J
You
have
any
just
because
you're
mentioning
that
and
I
appreciate
that
part
of
the
like
hesitancy
here.
The
the
right
is
we're
on
a
pause
for
the
arpa.
So
when
will
we
kind
of
have
that
meeting
about
unpausing
and
what
the
priorities
are,
because
without
knowing
what
the
priorities
are
from
the
executive
as
like,
we
we're
all
on
the
same
page.
We
all
want
to
go
in
the
same
direction,
but
when
we
start
talking
about
2
million
for
this
or
5
million
for
that
you
start
to
you
know
I'd.
J
What
are
we
choosing
instead
of
so?
When
might
we
expect
to
know
that
so.
P
You
know
we
are
are
working
internally
within
the
county
executive
office
to
build
a
plan
for
the
remaining
80
million
dollars.
We
recognize
we'll
need
to
engage
with.
You
know,
starting
with
the
board
leadership
and,
and
then,
of
course,
you
know
all
of
you
on
that
plan-
we're
in
the
final
stages
of
our
internal
deliberations
and
would
expect
to
have
a
plan
to
bring
to
the
leadership
at
the
beginning
of
next
month.
Okay,.
I
L
Because
there
is
a
significant
amount
of
space
in
this
building
that
is
not
occupied
by
a
non-profit
entity
and
so
hallways
the
large
green
space
that
this
property
sits
on.
A
lot
of
you
know
the
the
gym
and
common
area
space
that
our
Revenue
generating
but
are
not
occupied
by
a
non-profit
organization.
L
I
L
It
was
like
the
the
building
is
technically
an
LLC,
but
runs
at
a
break.
Even
it
is
an
LLC
because
that's
what
we
needed
to
qualify
for
New
Market
tax
credits.
A
You,
commissioner,
and
commissioner
Charles
had
one
more
question
and
then
I
think
well.
D
A
That's
exactly
what
I
was
going
to
do
so
all
right.
Thank
you.
I
will
just
comment
here.
Everybody's
alluded
to
the
fact
that
I
am
a
Webster
grad
I'm,
just
gonna
go
real
deep,
my
mother,
my
mother-in-law,
my
husband
and
three
of
my
four
siblings
and
I
all
went
to
Webster
School,
so
I
do
love
the
place,
but
that's
not
why
I
am
behind
it,
I'm
behind
it.
For
all
of
those
things
on
the
board,
it
fits
the
arpa
guidelines
to
a
t,
I'm
just
thrilled
to
see
it
it
moving
and
I
wish.
A
A
A
A
Okay
and
let's
have
a
motion
to
receive
and
file
the
packet
that
they
brought
today.
Commissioner
Hoffman
supported
by
commissioner
weipert,
all
in
favor
of
receiving
and
filing
the
packet
say,
I
I
opposed
it
is
a
nice
packets
received.
Q
G
Q
So
this
is
I
mean
we
have
helped
support
this.
This
event,
that
kind
of
kicked
off
fairly
it's
fairly
new
I
mean
a
winter
festival
in
the
Southeast
area.
This
coming
weekend,
as
commissioner
Johnson
and
and
I
think,
commissioner
Spitz
also
shared
his
Fire
and
Ice,
which
is
I,
mean
the
long-standing
is
kind
of
coming
back
to
life
after
taking
a
Hiatus
the
last
couple
years.
That's
this
coming
weekend
this
that
this
vessel
is
scheduled
for
the
February
3rd
through
5th.
Q
Types
of
these
events,
they'll
be
planning,
I
mean
the
organizers
and
producers
of
these
events
have
to
have
contingency.
It
doesn't
look
like
it's
gonna,
be
pretty
balmy
this
weekend,
but
it
might
be
winter.
Come
February,
I
mean
35th
of
the
weekend
before
Super
Bowl
I
mean
it.
It
really
is.
It
is
a
tremendous
event.
I
think
some
I
know
some
members
of
the
board
actually
attended
it.
Last
year,
zip
lines.
Q
Food
trailers
I
mean
a
giant
winter
slide,
Ice
Gardens
warming
zones,
family
zones,
Ski
and
Snowboard
activities,
and
instructors
on
on
half
all
free
for
for
people
to
participate.
Everything
the
zip
line,
there's
a
fee
for
it,
because
it's
a
mobile
I
mean
entity.
Oakland
County
will
have
prominent
branding
live
music
I
mean
a
host
of
I,
mean
events,
I,
think
it's
a
really
great
place
making
event
and
with
bipartisan
support
I
mean
hope.
You
can.
K
I
Q
They're
I
mean
they
are
a
major
sponsor.
For
this
event,
I
mean
the
cost.
The
the
ice
skating,
the
ice
skating
rink
that
was
built
I
mean
it
was
a
half
a
million
dollar
investment
as
well
as
some
other
entities.
Okay,.
G
Just
Dave
since
you're
so
familiar
here
where
where's
the
best
I
mean,
is
it
going
to
be
enough
parking
parking.
Q
I
love
parking,
nothing,
nothing
better
than
a
parking
conversation
in
downtown
parking
structure
is
right
there,
so
Centennial
Park,
where
the
festival
is
and
the
surrounding
areas.
There's
a
new
I
mean
fairly
new
parking
structure
right
across
the
street.
Next
to
the
library.
First,
two
hours
are
free
and
then
it's
like
75
cents,
an
hour
after
that.
So
there's
no
reason
and
and
then
on
street
parking,
but
I
recommend
I
mean
if
it's
snowing.
You
want
to
covered
parking
space.
Okay,.
G
Q
So
I
mean
well
I
can
answer
it.
Three
ways
yes
and
I
will
reach
out
to
the
organizers.
I
mean
now
I,
lift
up
our
sponsorship
and
like
what
that
looks
like
and
invite
all
Commissioners
to
attend.
So
like
from
a
PR
piece,
there
I
plan
to
host
a
I
mean
a
reception.
I
mean
I'm
on
me
for
any
Commissioners
that
wants
to
come.
I
have
a
little
bit
of
a
problem
that
I
have
I
mean
for
a
big
portion
of
it.
Q
I
have
to
be
out
of
town,
so
I've,
so
I'm
gonna
try
to
work
that
around
there
and
I
reached
out
to
the
executive
office.
I'm
interested
in
I
mean
I,
have
an
Oakland
counties
day.
I
mean
to
really
encourage
the
employees
of
Oakland
County
to
come
and
take
take
part.
The
free
ice
skating,
also
things
like
that.
So
I
would
say
those
are
the
three
things
in
motion.
J
G
J
O
Q
G
Q
Q
Encourage
movement
through,
but
I
will
I
mean
I'd
be
happy
to
take
your
concerns.
To
the
commissioner,
I
mean
the
city,
the
commission
and
the
mayor.
A
A
If
not,
let's
prompt
the
vote.
Please.
A
N
M
A
Thank
you.
Motion
carries
next
up
item
7D
sponsorship
of
the
fair
housing,
centers,
tenants,
rights
and
responsibilities,
Council
moved
by
commissioner
Charles,
supported
by
commissioner
Hoffman.
A
This
is
wasn't
this
one
Steve
yeah,
oh
he's
there.
Oh
my
keys,
Steve,
oh
Steve,
hi,
Steve,
sorry
welcome!.
R
To
address
you,
we're
proposing
formation
of
a
tenants,
Council
serving
Oakland
County,
there's
a
been
a
great
need.
There's
been,
as
mentioned
in
the
summary
that
over
200
cities,
counties
and
states
have
Center
rights
and
responsibilities.
Council,
we
see,
we've
been
existing
since
1977.
we've
received
over
8
000
complaint
deposit
discriminates
in
the
same
or
more
when
it
comes
to
landlord
tenant.
R
Housing
related
we've
had
a
number
of
housing,
related
questions
and
concerns
that
have
been
raised
at
Oakland,
County
and
there's
just
a
great
lack
of
understanding
and
awareness
of
what
the
standards
are,
what
the
rights
and
responsibilities
are
when
I
say
price
and
responsibilities.
Obviously,
there's
rights
that
Senate
sounds,
there's
also
responsibilities.
Attendants
have,
and
people
need
to
be
aware
of
both
of
those.
R
Also,
this
will
the
way
it
works
now,
without
any
knowledge
of
that.
It's
almost
like
a
race
to
go
with
the
court
or
to
file
notices,
quit
and
move
forward
with
evictions,
and
you
know
it
doesn't
have
to
reach
that
things
can
be
short,
things
can
be
resolved,
matters
can
be
addressed,
so
we
have
seen
and
I
kind
of
put
it
in
the
little
summary
a
couple
instances
in
which
tenants
on
their
own
form,
tenants
council,
with
every
every
time
that
occurred.
There
was
a
really
a
backlash
from
the
housing
provider
and.
R
Little
basic
things
there's
a
carpet
complex
with
some
elderly
employees
and
what
they
did
was
they
just
the
property
management
company
removed
the
chairs
and
couches
that
were
by
the
door
as
a
result,
if
you
kind
of,
is
that
so
what
they
did
is
they.
R
Way
they
couldn't
stand
and
wait
till
they
got
a
ride
or
a
bus
pick
up
some
things
that
nature,
and
so
they
formed
a
union
just
to
have
the
couches
and
chairs
restored,
just
a
simple
thing
like
that,
and
they
faced
the
reaction
going
the
other
way,
not
knowing
that
under
Michigan
law,
if
tenants
form
a
council,
that's
protected
activity
and
they're
not
to
be
retaliated
against
other
situations
are
even
basic.
People
have
been
scammed,
not
knowing
they're,
not
dealing
with
the
legitimate
landlord
or
management
company
or
the
actual
owner
of
the
property.
R
There's
instances
where
people
have
given
their
covet
checks
used
that
paid
it
over
to
someone
who
has
completely
scammed
them.
So
there's
a
lot
of
opportunities
to
inform
people
of
their
rights,
the
funding
of
it.
This
is
not
intended
to
be
long
term
if
they
want
one
and
done
situation
after
that,
once
we
have
it
jump,
started
and
going.
We
believe
that
we
will
obtain
funds
through
the
state.
Misha
is
very
that's
one
of
missions,
priorities
as
State
priorities
is
tenants,
rights
and
anti-fraud.
It's
a
concern.
R
Statewide
not
only
open
County,
but
that's
something.
The
state
is
very
interested
in
hot
is
concerned
as
well
with
that
we
also
have
cash
reserves
that
we
can
use
to
fund
the
project
on
a
continual
basis.
We
also
have
contributions
and
other
grant
opportunities,
so
there's
certainly
a
great
great
need
for
it.
We're
proposing
you
know
just
to
kick.
It
off
is
to
get
out
there
and
have
12
training
sessions
at
large
apartment
complexes,
advertise
and
promote
that
at
least
30
days
in
advance
and
have
these
sessions
where
we
can
meet
with
the
actual
tenants.
R
Our
office
last
year
did
close
to
60
59
training
sessions,
mainly
those
were
with
management
companies,
property
management,
companies,
owners,
apartment
complexes
and
so
forth.
So
a
lot
of
our
training,
we
don't
get
individuals
necessarily
coming
to
us.
We
have
to
go
to
them,
they
just
don't,
and
if
we
do
it's
kind
of
Hit
and
Miss,
we
don't
have
the
impact
that
we
have
so
so
we
need
to
actually
put
our
boots
on
the
ground
in
Oakland.
R
County
reach
the
areas
where,
where
people
live,
I'm
not
gonna,
be
specific
in
terms
of
apartment
complex
than
that,
but
there's
a
great
need
and
we
can
have
a
number
of
housing
units
give
you
a
large
number
of
housing
units
that
reach,
especially
once
the
word
gets
out.
We.
R
E
R
Will
get
those
distributed
as
well?
They're
pretty
popular
you
get
back
to
Federal
rights,
responsibilities.
R
I've
done
a
webinar
on
that
and
that's
one
that's
been
fairly
popular.
I
was
going
up
the
Pontiac
in
April
dealing
with
tenants
rights
because
they
have
major
concerns.
They
are
I
mean
it
I'm.
Going
into
these
places.
Doing
fair
housing,
training
and
people
are
crying
out
for
training
when
it
comes
to
tenant
rights
responsibility.
So
the
need
is
really
really
critical.
R
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
kind
of
the
kick
start.
This
going
Amy
and
Paul
really
have
a
community
outreach,
that's
just
them.
They
have
a
passion
for
doing
it
and
they're
going
to
hit
the
ground
and
get
out
there
and
get
the
word
out
for
it
and
I
think
this
is
the
benefit.
R
It
cuts
together
is
the
Foreclosure
crisis.
It
cuts
against
some
of
the
displacement.
R
Rates
it'll
help
stabilize
communities,
so
people
won't
be,
you
know,
threatened.
There's
ignorance
I
mean
some
of
it
is
for.
R
Inhabitability,
it
starts
from
the
time
people
even
start
to
think
about
leasing.
They
are
not
aware
that
you
know
you
have
to
get
a
checklist
before
you
move
in.
You
have
to
make
sure
that
the
repairs
and
everything
has
been
done.
You
have
to
make
sure
that
there's
rental
certificates,
probably
every
city,
will
tell
you
Pontiac.
You
know:
we've
met
with
Pontiac
officials
as
well.
R
They're
gonna,
tell
you
that
landlord
they're,
not
by
and
large,
are
not
getting
property
certified
with
their
rental
certificate
and
so
to
be
educating
people
on
what
those
rights
are
to
make
it,
how
what
processes
they
can
go
online
and
check
to
see
that
a
property
is
been
properly
registered.
So.
R
R
The
other
part,
too,
is
that
we
will
work
with
the
alliance
for
housing
and
other
groups
as
well,
so
the
intent
is
not
to
be
the
fair
housing
Detroit
doing
it
all
doing
everything
I
mean
we
need
to
leverage
the
other
community
groups
and
talk
with
other
community
groups
on
a
weekly
basis
with
these
kinds
of
issues.
They
refer
people
to
us
and
we
refer
people
to
them.
So.
B
R
Idea
is
that
to
get
the
word
out
when
it
comes
to
tenants
and
housing
providers,
as
well
as
other
community
groups,
that
they
know
they're,
just
not
a
lot
of
understanding
on
this
people
do
not
know.
You
know
what
the
do's
and
don'ts
are
when
it
comes
to
a
rental
relationship.
They
just
don't,
and
this
will
help
to
kind
of
bridge
the
educational
Gap
that
we're
seeing.
I
How
can
a
tenant
be
assured
that
he's
talking
to
a
landlord?
Should
he
call
the
city?
What
does
he
need
to
do
because
I
hate
to
see
people
get
scammed
like
that.
R
A
couple
of
different
ways:
the
first
thing
I
mean
they
can
go
online.
Every
state
has
bsna
bsna
online.
That
will
listen
to
the
taxpayer.
That's
one
step.
Another
step
is
to
go
online
to
the
Oakland
County
Register
of
Deeds.
That'll
also
give
you
information
on
who
the
ownership
of
the
property
is,
but
there
are
two
real
good
access
to
that
so
they're
available
online,
and
it
will
give
you
that
information
another
one,
even
without
having
to
pay
anything.
You
go
to
the
and.
I
R
Click
on
paying
taxes-
you
put
the
you
know
the
property
in
and
it'll
show
you
the
current
tax
status
of
it.
But
again
that
gives
you
the
taxpayer
information.
So
those
are
two
real
quick
ways.
Another
way
that
again
it
varies.
It
varies
by
municipality,
but
there's
you
know
each
one
is
kind
of
different.
How
they
do
it.
Southfield
has
their
rental
certificates
are
right
on
their
bsna
website
to
Detroit.
R
R
Whatever
you
know,
we
would
go
and
show
people
the
way
you
would
determine
that
in
Birmingham
and
we
would
have
the
the
ordinance
which
pertains
a
rental
certificate
to
make
sure
you're
dealing
with
that
and.
R
But
if
it's
a
company,
then
you
would
go
to
Laura
the
Michigan
State
website,
Labor
and
Regulatory
Affairs,
and
it
will
give
you
information.
You
get
all
the
corporate
filings.
R
B
R
R
When
it
comes
to
the
management
company
as
well,
because
they're
sometimes
going
to
be
a
separation,
so
I'm
not
saying
it's
foolpro,
but
it's
certainly
a
lot
better
than
what's
occurring
right
now,
I
mean
people,
look
whether
you
know
the
person
seems
legitimate
and
they
pay
over
the
money
or
they
give
a
money
order
and
they
may
not
even
get
anything
in
writing.
R
Another
thing
we
talk
about
too
whether
you're
getting
a
release
or
not
you
got
a
written,
leads
right,
you're
more
likely
than
if
there's
a
fraud
occur,
and
you
maybe
have
someone
to
go
to
the
way
the
laws
work.
It's
kind
of
split
the
other
ways
to
stay
level,
because
if
someone
is
in
a
property
and
they
haven't
really
contracted
with
the
proper
landlord,
they
can
be
the
indirect,
effective.
B
R
I
don't
put
everything
in
here,
because
it
would
be
extremely
lengthy
right,
but
that's
the
address,
but
that's
a
very
good
question.
Thank.
K
You,
commissioner,
Powell
so
I
just
wanted
to
let
my
colleagues
know.
I
have
asked
Mr
Steve
to
come
up
to
Pontiac
and
he
has
addressed
our
landlords,
and
what
was
mind-boggling
to
me
is
the
history
with
Section
8
taking
those
type
attendance
you
have
landlords
who
are
did
not
know
any
of
their
rights,
and
it
was
probably
20
landlords
there.
They
did
not
know
what
their
rights
are
dealing
with
those
type
of
tenants.
K
They
became
more
aware
of
all
their
rights
as
landlords
and
dealing
with
those
type
of
tenants
that
have
the
vouchers
it
kind
of
it
was
almost
like
a
weight
lifted
off
their
shoulder
because
they
they
still
wanted
to
try
to
rent
to
these
individuals
but
the
stigma
behind
it.
If
we
all
know
you
wouldn't
want
to
rent
through
them
period,
so
that
was
one
thing
and
then
just
on
the
flip
side
with
tenants,
it
is
notorious.
K
Even
when
I
worked
at
the
state,
it
is
mind-boggling
how
tenants
really
are
shaded
of
their
rights
with
landlords.
So,
on
the
flip
side
of
this,
you
got
tenants
going
in.
They
are
not
aware
of
their
rights.
They
are
not
getting
that
proper
check
off
list,
they're
being
moved
into
these
houses
in
horrible
conditions
and
then
absolutely
right.
Pontiac
is
not
for
years,
maintain
their
records
and
certifications
and
all
that
stuff.
K
So
yes
in
Pontiac,
we
have
a
very
unique
situation,
but
this
type
of
information
and
connection
and
is
needed
just
to
educate
our
citizens
just
throughout
Oakland
County,
especially
with
all
these
rental
hikes
and
all
this
other
stuff,
because
we
have
landlords
doing
what
they
want
to
do.
That
I
know
I
guarantee
you
in
every
Community.
K
If
we
really
chop
down
on
this,
we
will
find
some
landlords
and
some
tenants
that
are
just
out
of
place
on
both
sides,
and
this
information
will
be
helpful
to
kind
of
massage
this
and
get
this
back
on
the
right
track
with
home
ownership,
home
renters
everything
but
I'm,
seeing
it
firsthand
our
city
is
messed
up,
then
I'm
gonna
leave
it
at
that.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
G
So
I
just
wanted
to
understand.
Steve
you
already
are
with
Oakland
County
and
then
you
have
staff.
So
it's
not
going
to
be
like
a
new
department
or
anything
extra
you're,
just
going
to
act
as
a
tenant
counsel
going
out
in
the
communities
with
these
infra
with
these
sorts
of
information
for
the
tenants
and
the
landlords.
Is
that
correct,
correct,
okay,
correct
and
then
the
funding
is
already
like
from
the
state
funding
or
there's
Federal
funding
funding
through
HUD
there
won't
be
any
additional
cost
to
for
the
County
right
now.
R
R
A
Okay,
commissioner
Charles.
D
I'd
like
to
request,
unless
Powell
and
Cavell
have
a
problem,
but
I'd
like
to
be
added
to
the
resolutioners
I'm.
A
Okay
motion
carries.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
and
thank
you
so
much
that
brings
us
to.
That
concludes.
Recommendations
brings
us
to
Communications
item
8A
memo
on
the
Michigan
high
speed
internet
office,
Michigan
connected
future
state
tour,
just
in
the
interest
of
time.
I'll
just
tell
you
that
some
of
us
saw
Patty
talk
about
this
in
the
previous
meeting,
but
Patty
did
went
yesterday
to
a
meeting
being
held
by
my
high,
which
is
the
Michigan
office
of
high
speed
internet
high-speed
internet.
Thank
you,
I
need
lunch.
A
I
can
tell
my
head's
getting
a
little
and
what
the
plans
are
across
the
state
go
ahead.
Okay,
we're
waiting
for
you.
S
Thank
you,
hey
everyone,
and
again
to
those
who
already
talked
to
so
I
went
to
the
meeting
yesterday.
This
was
put
on
by
the
my
high
office,
which
is
the
Michigan
office
of
high-speed
internet.
It
was
a
listening
session
and
it
was
the
second
of
40
that
are
going
to
take
place
across
the
10
priority
areas
of
the
state.
S
The
next
one
is
in
Pontiac
tomorrow
night
at
the
Bowen
Center
and
so
they're
taking
input
from
stakeholders
and
decision
makers
and
community
members
non-profits
everybody
to
get
opinions
on
what
are
the
barriers
to
Equitable
service,
be
it
affordability,
availability
tasks
or
I,
mean
tasks,
tech,
savviness
devices
or
something
else
so
they're
collecting
all
of
this
information
so
that
they
can
formulate
a
plan
which
will
be
a
five-year
plan
to
use
the
1.6
billion
dollars
that
the
federal
government
is
giving
to
Michigan.
S
So
that's
Federal
funding
coming
specifically
to
Michigan,
so
it's
not
spread
out
among
other
states
as
well
it's
to
Michigan.
So
it's
good
to
go
and
kind
of
you
know
voice
your
concerns
and
give
your
input.
If
you're
not
able
to
go
this,
isn't
your
only
chance.
You
can
either
go
to
one
of
the
other,
you
know
3837
meetings,
but
they
will
formulate
this
plan
and
they
will
come
back
out
to
get
your
feedback
on
the
actual
plan.
S
So
right
now,
there's
all
kinds
of
acronyms
for
every
program
there's
just
tons
of
them,
but
right
now,
there's
grants
that
communities
will
be
looking
at
to
35
percent
of
the
grants
for
the
robin
program
are
going
to
go
to
Middle
mile
infrastructure,
meaning
you
know
not
not
establishing
the
internet
and
then
the
rest
of
the
funding
is
going
to
go
to
Last
Mile,
so
actually
getting
the
services
to
either
homes
or
institutions
or
businesses
and
what's
coming
up,
is
digital
equity
and
Bridging,
the
digital
divide,
and
so
those
are
that's.
S
A
S
In
your
email,
yeah
we'll
send
it
out
in
your
email
and
or
you
can
go
to
the
Michigan
high
speed
internet
office
and
online,
and
you
know
if
you
lose
that
email
or
something
and
then.
Secondly,
we
are
we've,
got
a
Federal
grant
administered
through
semcog,
and
that
was
discussed
at
the
Tri-County
Summit.
That
was
this
was
a
big
portion
of
the
study
group
from
Wayne,
Oakland
and
Macomb,
and
we'll
be
looking
to
doing
a
study
with
Merit.
S
That
accurately
reflects
the
actual
service
in
Oakland
County,
because
previously
the
providers
would
give
that
data
and
the
map
would
be
made.
You
know
from
that
viewpoint,
but
it
doesn't
always
accurately
reflect
because
they
were
able
to
you
know.
If
there
was
one
house
on
the
street
that
had
internet
service,
they
were
able
to
claim
the
whole
street.
So
now
it's
going
to
be
much
more
detailed,
and
that
way
you
can
have
some.
You
know
input
on
the
decisions.
S
I
know
Oakland
County
has
like
a
million
dollars
set
aside
for
broadband,
so
we
can
look
to
make
decisions
on
how
to
bridge
that
digital
divide.
G
A
Was
like
you
know,
none
of
us
know
anything
about
this
subject,
so
we're
just
gonna
jump
in,
which
is
what
we
did
so.
Okay,
so
I
need
a
motion
to
receive
and
file.
Commissioner
Powell
supported
by
commissioner
Charles,
please
craft
the
vote.