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A
Mcgillivray
powell
is
absent
notice.
Charles
present.
C
C
All
right,
we
have
no
communications.
We
only
do
public
comment
once
at
the
end
of
this
meeting,
because
we're
not
taking
any
action
in
the
regular
part
of
the
meeting
and
therefore
all
comments
will
be
at
the
end,
all
right,
we
will
jump
right
in.
We
have
no
communications,
so
we
will
jump
right
into
item
5.
The
budget
hearings
and
item
5a
is
information
technology,
so
welcome.
C
For
the
record,
we
have
a
choice,
introduce
yourself
and
tell
us
what
you
want
to
tell
us
and
then,
when
you're
done,
I'm
sure
we'll
have
lots
of
questions
so,
and
I
want
to
encourage
everybody
to
speak
into
your
microphones.
The
tech
people
have
been
yelling
at
me
for
two
days
that
they
can't
hear
everybody.
So
why
yeah
so
just
pull
the
mic
up
close
hello
good
afternoon,
commissioners.
D
So
I'm
mike
tim,
I'm
the
director
of
I.t.
I
want
to
also
introduce
our
leadership
team
that
is
here
on
the
phone
on
the
screen:
jeanette
mckenna,
who's,
the
manager
of
our
internal
services,
team,
tammy,
shepard,
the
manager
of
our
application
services
team
and
in
in
the
room
we
have
jim
manning
who's,
the
manager
of
our
clemis
team,
e.j
wyden,
the
chief
technology
officer
for
the
county
for
it
and
tj
fields,
who's
our
chief
information
security
officer.
D
Monica
tinsley
ed
mullen,
who
are
both
on
the
call
and
sean
phelps
from
the
fiscal
team,
as
a
just
brief
introduction,
I.t
is,
is
made
up
of
four
divisions:
nearly
170
ftes
full-time
staff
plus
our
contract,
labor
staff,
those
four
divisions
are
internal
services,
technical
systems
and
networking
application
services
and
columbus
from
a
budget
perspective
just
very
high
level.
There
are
actually
five
proprietary
funds
in
in
your
your
budget
book
and
and
by
order
in
the
budget
book,
they
are
colemas
fire
records
management,
the
radio
fund,
I.t
and
the
telephone
fund.
D
I
will
be
in
just
a
minute:
yes,
thank
you,
commissioner,
and
from
a
budget
perspective
as
well.
We
did
meet
the
four
percent
reduction
target
last
year,
so
we
had
no
additional
reduction
targets
this
year
we
will
go
through
just
you
know,
some
highlights
of
major
projects
and
those
kinds
of
things
coming
up
here
when
we
started
preparing
for
this,
the
board
staff
presented
some
questions
and
just
at
a
very
high
level,
you
know
the
three
key
ones
you
know
were
around.
What
were
our
objectives?
D
D
So
what
we
will
describe
today
in
the
powerpoint,
you
know
really
talks
to
those
three
items
and
a
key
part
of
that
is
what
we
know
as
our
I.t
master
planning
process,
and
that
process
includes
the
involvement
of
leadership
and
made
up
of
leaders
representing
all
county
departments
to
help
us
plan
and
prioritize.
D
So
as
other
departments
come
through
and
talk
about
technology
needs.
Obviously
we
are,
you
know,
collecting
those
needs
from
them,
but
they
are
also
involved
in
that
prioritization
process.
Helping
us
manage
fixed
resources
because,
like
every
department,
we
don't
have
unlimited
resources
either.
So
that's
the
process
we
use.
D
D
D
Another
key
kpi
for
us
is
the
number
of
service
center
requests
that
are
closed
and
completed
on
time.
So
this
is
standard
requests
that
people
have.
You
know
I
need
a
new
laptop.
I
need
a
new
monitor.
I
need
a
new
cell
phone.
These
are
standard
requests,
excuse
me
and
those
requests.
We
do
try
to
measure
how
what
percentage
of
them
that
we
complete
within
a
60-day
time
period.
D
D
Two
more
kpis
are
cyber
security.
We
talk
about
that
periodically
in
here,
as
I
bring
forward
funding
requests
it's
obviously
front
and
center.
On
most
everyone's
mind,
you
know
it
gets
a
lot
of
press,
so
that
is
something
that
we
spend
quite
a
bit
of
time,
managing
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
the
county
data
safe,
and
that
includes
a
number
of
different
aspects
and
we
have
a
number
of
scores
and
kpis
to
help
us
measure
that
and
then
finally
number
five
out
of
our
key
performance.
D
D
So
this
this
graph
is
just
a
sample
graph
of
a
couple
of
the
kpis.
We
are
working
actively
with
the
the
performance
team
in
the
county
executive
office,
publishing
our
kpis.
Some
of
them
will
be
published
externally,
some
of
them.
You
know
that
relate
to
security.
We
will
keep
those
internally
published,
I'm
happy
to
share
those
with
with
any
of
you
as
we
develop
them
and
as
we
begin
that
tracking
process.
D
D
D
D
We
we
don't
really
have
plans
to
improve
the
uptime
of
that,
because
that
system
has
so
much
redundancy
that
we
have
not
experienced
downtime.
There
might
be
individual
downtime
aspects
in
an
area
that
that
we
have
workarounds,
for
so
our
objective
with
that
system
is
that
that
people
that
call
9-1-1
are
always
able
to
get
through,
and
that's
been
the
case
for
the
last
three
years.
We've
been
measuring
it,
so
so
that's
an
example
of
one
where
we
will
keep
track
of
that.
D
D
D
security,
identity
and
access
management,
server
replacement.
The
servers
that
manage
many
of
the
applications
we
have
and
yes,
the
wireless
upgrade
expansion.
I
talked
about
already,
so
all
of
these
things
related
to
either
system
performance,
technical
debt
and
or
security
that
were
in
the
budget
last
year,
projects
that
we've
been
working
on.
We
will
finish
those
up
this
year
and
then
we
also
you'll
see
in
one
of
the
budget
notes
and
in
fact,
kyle
actually
mentioned
this
during
the
presentation
to
the
board.
D
So
as
that
master
plan
is
developed,
that
two
million
dollars
is
earmarked
for
those
excuse.
D
Well
and
an
example
of
that
might
be
a
department
that
well
an
example
that
that
we
have
historically
used,
maybe
arp
dollars
for,
would
be
upgrades
to
a
conference
room.
Now,
that's
a
little
bit
different
than
this,
but
software
that's
procured.
We
procure
software
for,
say,
tracking
tracking
restaurant
restaurant
grading
would
be
an
example,
so
we
have
a
project
called
a
cella.
D
That's
a
software
package
for
the
health
department
and
we're
in
a
project
to
implement
that
today.
If
the
health
department
came
up
with
a
new
project
and
one
one
that
comes
to
mind
is
a
learning
management
system,
so
the
health
department
has
to
keep
track
of
the
training
that
all
of
their
staff
goes
through.
D
That
project
will
require
a
software
package
and
that
software
package
would
be
part
of
this.
Two
million
dollar
funding.
Okay,
thank
you
yep!
So
that's!
That's
an
example
that
I
know
is
in
the
master
plan
request,
so
those
projects
I
mean
just
to
be
clear
with
the
finance
committee
in
particular.
D
Those
projects
will
all
come
to
the
board
with
the
sponsoring
department,
and
I
t
you
know,
will
come
hand
in
hand
to
allocate
those
two
million
dollars
for
those
projects.
You
know
as
they
get
vetted
as
the
business
case
is
built.
As
you
know,
we
move
forward
with
you
know.
This
is
when
it's
going
to
be
delivered
and
the
very
last
slide
or
some
other
major
initiatives
for
2023.
D
Some
things
that
are
are
currently
in
the
works.
Microsoft
is
upgrading
operating
systems,
as
as
they
need
to
do.
Windows
11
is
coming
out,
so
our
workstations
at
the
county
are
all
on
windows
10.,
so
that
upgrade
will
you
know,
go
across
nearly
5
000
workstations
that
we
have
at
the
county.
It's
a
herculean
effort
to
do
that
upgrade
the
it
infrastructure
is
our
servers
and
storage
in
our
data
center
and
then
also
continuing
to
work
through
the
radio
project
which
you
know
is,
has
been
a
big
project.
D
It's
been
to
the
board
several
times
that
project
is
going
through
its.
What
we
call
the
backhaul
testing
and
verification
as
we
speak,
the
antennas
are,
are
all
ready.
We've
received
much
of
the
equipment
we've
gone
through
some
training
and
that
backhaul
work
is
is
going
through
test
right
now,
so
that
will
continue
through
the
next
year.
Some
new
anticipated
I.t
projects
are
out
of
this.
This
group
of
170
in
the
master
planning
process.
D
Many
of
those
will
get
approved
as
we
go
through
that
evaluation
and
prioritization
process
over
the
course
of
the
next
few
months
and
in
the
october
time
frame.
Those
projects
will
initiate,
and
then
also
mentioned
in.
The
budget
book
was
the
I.t
rate
study
as
a
proprietary
fund,
the
it
services
are
delivered
to
departments
and
departments.
You
know
quote:
unquote
pay
for
those
services
based
on
various
rates.
D
Those
rates
have
not
been
have
not
been
evaluated
in
over
a
decade
and
they
have
been
adjusted
just
through
some
simple
math,
but
the
evaluation
process
will
be
done
with
an
external
consultant
that
is
part
of
an
rfp
that
the
fiscal
team
is
going
through
major
contracts
that
are
up
for
bid.
So
these
will
go
through
the
rfp
process,
but
they're
major
parts
of
it
infrastructure,
endpoint
security.
D
D
That
project
of
evaluating
new
tools
will
be
completed
as
an
rfp
in
this
next
budget
year,
our
cloud
services,
we
have
a
significant
footprint
that
we
manage
servers
and
storage
out
in
the
cloud
and
the
management
of
that
the
management
of
that
contract.
We
are
also
working
on
an
rfp
that
is
going
out
for
bid
and,
as
I
mentioned
yesterday
when
I
was
here
with
another
contract,
the
co-location
services
for
the
data
center-
that
was
one
of
the
wind
stream
contracts
that
we
talked
about
yesterday
in
the
in
the
finance
committee.
D
C
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
I
will
open
it
up
to
the
commissioners,
starting
with
commissioner
long
followed
by
commissioner
moss.
I.
F
F
F
D
So
all
of
those
those
line
items
those
those
four
that
are
there.
D
Two
of
them
are
listed
development
two
of
them
are
listed
operating
operating,
so
those
are
the
ones
actually
that
I
bring
in
to
finance
on
a
quarterly
basis
and
request
your
approval
to
transfer
funds
from
the
general
fund
departments
into
I.t
and-
and
they
are
for
the
work
that
we
have
done
on
their
projects.
D
Not
necessarily,
it
varies
a
little
bit
between
whether
so
non-governmental
are
other
proprietary
funds.
Governmental
are
the
ones
that
are
gfgp
and
and
and
that's
about
half
of
the
county
budget
right
in
total
is
general
fund
and
half
of
it
is
proprietary,
so
we
provide
it
services
for
wrc,
for
example,
and
every
time
we
do
something
for
wrc,
it
hits
that
non-governmental
line
item.
So
it
just
varies
by
you
know
where
the
projects
are
coming
from,
the
departments
and
the
source
of
the
funds
right.
F
In
that
and
then
there's
one
more
question
on
page
604,
the
professional
service
kind
of
down
by
the
end.
Yes,
so
in
actual
we
did
6.4
million
now
we're
adopting
4.3
and
then
so
what
we're
included
in
those
professional
services.
What
is
included
so.
D
D
Maybe
two
years
ago
I
mean
covet,
has
changed
my
timing
a
little
so
so
in
that
rfp
we
ask,
for
an
example
would
be
we
need.
Project
managers,
okay
and
and
project
managers
are
a
great
example
of
somebody
who
is
here
for
a
project
and
then,
when
that
project
is
over,
that
work
is
no
longer
needed,
so
they're,
not
full-time
county
employees.
C
Okay,
I
am
going
to
go
to
commissioner
charles
next
because
she
always
uses
the
system
like
we're
all
supposed
to
yeah.
C
E
I
appreciate
your
questions,
commissioner,
along
because
I
figured
you
were
going
there
and
I
too
come
from
a
background
where
professional
services
always
give
me
a
little
angst,
because
it's
so
vague
and,
quite
frankly,
if
I
was
looking
for,
I
think
you
used
the
term
pass-through
yesterday,
whether
it
be
on
the
right
or
the
wrong.
It's
so
easy
to
hide,
and
it's
it
just
makes
me
so
unsettled.
So
if
we
look
at
667,
it
does
look
like
several
lines
of
professional
services
and
it'd
be
one
thing
for
people,
667
and
668.
E
And
nothing
ever
changed.
Nothing
ever
changed
at
the
school
district
level.
So
I'm
sure
it
won't
change
here,
but
just
to
itemize
it
out
a
little
bit
better
to
be
able
to
really
see
what
it
is,
because
again
it
is
very
obtuse
or
whatever
the
word
is
so
that
would
be.
Excuse
me.
I
think
commissioner
long
asked
about
increases
in
revenue,
and
I
think
you
already
spoke
to
that,
so
I
won't
re
rehash
it
and
then
about
the
back
of
the
big
book
with
it
professional
services.
E
So
my
I
guess
you
could
say
the
questions
that
I
came
up
with
were
in
terms
of
he
said:
there's
four
divisions,
internal
clematis
and
internal,
something
clinic
fire
records,
fire.
D
Well
so
yeah
the
divisions
are
internal
services,
application
services,
columbus
and
technical
systems
and
networking
those
are
organizational
divisions
but
well
to
commissioner
long's
point:
there
are
five
funds
that
we
manage
as
part
of
it.
Okay
and
and
in
your
budget
book
page
557
is
clemas.
Okay,
569
is
fire
records,
577
is
radio,
602
is
it,
which
is
the
biggest
one,
and
610
is
telephone,
so
those
are
all
budgets
that
we
all
manage
and
and
the
organizational
structure
potentially
bills
any
or
uses
any
of
those.
D
E
Well,
just
again,
it's
allowed
by
law
to
put
it
as
professional
services.
I
just
say,
as
a
as
a
lay
person
it'd
be
nice
to
dig
a
little
deeper
into
those
those
items.
My
final
inquiry
with
you
is
as
if
that'll
ever
be
final.
E
I'll
always
have
questions
for
you,
but
I'll
stop
at
this
one,
which
is
oh,
I
think
there's
like
a
hierarchy
of
requests
that
come
to
you
when,
when
departments
need
stuff
and
I'm
just
gonna,
go
on
a
limb
because
closed
mouths
don't
get
fed,
I
feel
like
we
should
be
really
high
up
on
that
list,
because
I
just
feel,
like
you
know,
some
of
the
things
we've
been
asking
for
are
such
easy
implementations
and
we're
really
the
only
forward-facing
body
at
the
county.
E
Quite
honestly,
like
no
other
electeds,
have
to
sit
and
listen
to
public
comment
for
four
hours,
but
us,
and
so
I
really
think
it's
important
that
people
can
use
our
website
to
easily
access
things.
I
promised
that
to
people
in
terms
of
a
wish
list.
As
I
was
running,
and
I
would
just
really
whatever
you
need
we're
here
for
you
to
make
us
more
of
a
priority.
D
C
Thank
you
point
good
point,
commissioner
moss
you
are
next.
B
Yes,
well,
thank
you.
Everybody
else
is
getting
into
the
details,
so
I
don't
have
to
it's
wonderful.
I
just
have
a
couple
of
really.
I
want
to
say
almost
incredibly
general
questions.
You
say,
you're
excuse
me,
I'm
putting
things
in
the
cloud
right
which
cloud
I
mean
cloud
is
just
another
word
for
somebody
else's
server.
So
how
do
we
make
sure
that
that
server
is
has
security?
How
do
we
make
sure
that
all
these
documents
are
being
properly
kept?
Curated,
divined
it
and
also
once
again,
protected.
D
So
I
would
not
call
that
a
general
question,
but
but
actually
I'm
I'm
happy
to
answer
that
because
we
I
I
think
we
do
quite
a
bit
and
we
and
we
this
starts
all
the
way
back
in
our
project
acquisition
process.
D
So
in
our
rfp
process,
part
of
our
rfp
when
we
look
at
vendors
is
their
security,
and
that
includes
whether
they
run
in
their
cloud
or
someone
else's
cloud
or
they're
going
to
run
on-prem
here
at
oakland
county.
So
that's
part
of
the
rfp
process.
It's
part
of
our
contract
evaluation
process
and
contract
management
process,
so.
D
Yeah
as
to
your
point,
there
are,
there
are
hundreds
we
have
stuff
that
we
manage
in
aws
amazon
web
services.
We
also
serve
as,
as
you
know,
most
of
you
know.
County
email
is
microsoft,
exchange
microsoft,
outlook,
microsoft,
office,
those
are
all
in
the
microsoft
cloud,
which
is
a
separate
cloud.
We
have
servers.
D
Our
web
servers
for
our
website
are
running
on
sharepoint,
which
is
a
microsoft
product
in
the
microsoft.
Some
of
that
is
on-prem,
some
of
it's
in
the
microsoft
cloud.
So
we
have
stuff
workday,
which
we
just
implemented
is
served
by
workday
in
off
top
my
head,
I
don't
know
tammy,
might
know
or
ej
which
cloud
that
is
in,
but
workday
provides
that
as
a
service.
We
don't
even
manage
that
cloud,
so
we're
very
aware
and
involved
in
the
clouds
that
we
do
manage
and
then
the
last
piece
I'll
say
around
security.
D
One
of
the
metrics
that
I
showed
was
our
overall
cyber
security
effectiveness
score
and
that
tool
actually
lets
us
monitor
all
of
our
key
vendors
and
we
can
see
their
score
as
well,
and
we
do
evaluate
that
and
we
work
with
risk
management
and
with
purchasing
and
with
those
vendors
to
ensure
that
their
security
scores
are
where
we
need
them
to
be
to
manage
and
protect
oakland
county
data.
B
Excellent,
thank
you.
I
have
a
question.
I
know
that
pretty
much
every
budget
and
every
department
is
coming
up
and
saying
that
in
2023
we're
going
to
have
overall
compensation
increase
of
five
percent.
I
said
here
and
I'm
looking
right
now.
Information
technology,
fun
budget
highlights
look
at.
Is
it
now
in
2024
and
see
a
general
overall
compensation
increase
of
three
and
then
in
25?
B
Is
this
going
up
you're
getting
every?
I
don't
see
that
in
any
other
department
about
planned,
increase
in
compensation
beyond
the
five
percent
that
we're
looking
at
this
year
looks
like
there
are
some
someone's
built
in.
Is
this
I'm?
Maybe
I
missed
it
in
all
the
other
ones,
but
you
are
contemplating
giving
a
five
percent
this
year
a
three
percent
next
year.
A
was
it
two.
Whatever
the
year
after.
D
I
don't
know
for
sure,
across
the
entire
county
and
and
obviously
union
contracts,
and
things
like
that
also
factor
into
I.t
is
is
following
the
recommendation
and
that
part
of
the
budget
yeah
is
determined
by
fiscal
services
and
obviously,
eventually
gets
voted
on
by
this
board,
whether
or
not
that
gets
approved.
But
yes,
my
understanding
is
it's
a
five
percent
across
the
board
increase
both
in
comp
as
well
as
well
as
the
fringe
benefit.
B
Well,
the
one
thing
I
do
notice
is
that
every
single
department
who
comes
in
here
says
that
you
guys
are
taking
all
their
money
and
that
they're
aside
from
personnel,
their
largest
uncontrollable
expense
expenses
I.t.
So
we
look
forward
to
the
rate.
Actually
I
actually
might
not
be,
but
it
would
be
good
to
just
have
this
body
take
a
look
at
whatever
your
rate
study
comes
up
with.
F
A
couple
questions:
do
you
anticipate
any
contract
extensions
this
year
and,
if
so,
what
what?
Which
ones
would
they
be.
D
So
we
we
do
have
a
list
of
contracts.
I
I
can
get
you
a
specific
list.
You
know
next
week
of
which
contracts
that
we
might
be
looking
at
extensions
we
do
manage.
D
D
Some
of
those
contracts
are
very
strategic
in
nature,
like
the
radio
contract
with
motorola.
That
project
has
a
15-year
life
built
into
it
when
that
contract
comes
up
for
renewal,
because
it
is
a
five-year
contract.
At
the
moment
when
the
support
contract
comes
up
for
renewal,
that
would
be
an
extension
request.
Now,
that's
not
next
year,
because
that
project
was
is
still
in
under
its
five-year
life,
but
that
would
be
an
example
of
one
that
we
would
not
want
to
go
through
the
process
of
redoing
a
contract
like
that.
D
Other
key
contracts
are
microsoft.
We
will
be
using
microsoft
products
for
a
long
time,
there's
no
real
good
alternative,
where
microsoft
gets
gets
competitive
as
vendors
that
do
the
reselling.
So
if
we
can
find
somebody
that
does
reselling
at
a
better
price,
we
would
bid
that
out,
but
that's
not
always
the
case.
One
contract
that
I
believe
will
be
coming
up
for
renewal,
that
is
major
infrastructure
and
you've
heard
several
departments
talk
about
is
the
document
document
imaging
document
scanning
document
management
that
went
through
an
rfp
five
years
ago.
D
So
that
would
be
an
example
of
one
that
will
be
coming,
but
I
can
get
you
a
list
because
we
do
manage
all
of
those
contracts,
they're,
typically
the
ones
that
would
be
our
candidates,
our
core
infrastructure
that
are
just
so
expensive
to
replace
that
there's,
not
really
a
good
payback.
There's
not
a
good
business
case,
it
doesn't
make
good
fiscal
sense
or
procurement
or
management
sense
to
replace
some
of
those
tools,
but
we'll
bring
that
back
and
I'll
get
you
that
list.
Okay,.
F
D
Which,
which
page
are
you
on
five.
D
Yes,
so
so
in
general,
there
are
a
couple
major
contributors
to
revenue
for
it,
and-
and
one
of
those
is
delivery
of
projects,
but
the
other
one,
as
I
mentioned,
is
the
two
million
dollars
that
we
allocated
out
of
the
general
fund.
D
That
is
outlooked
as
revenue
for
I.t,
but
it
will
also
involve
two
million
dollars
in
software
expense
for
it.
So
that's
that
two
million
dollar
earmark
that
would
be
an
example
of
something
that
shows
up
as
a
revenue
increase.
We
also
need
to
increase
revenue
so,
and
this
gets
back
to
the
rate
study
to
account
for
compensation
increase
when,
when
our
compensation
dollars
cost
more
or
a
professional
services,
dollar
cost
more
and
we
deliver
those
projects
to
the
departments
we
charge
them
an
hourly
rate.
D
C
G
Commissioner,
cabell
hey
there
sorry
for
coming
in
late
good
to
see
you
you
too,
you
may
have
already
said
this,
but
can
you
talk
through
a
little
bit
like
a
general
question
clemis
you
know
and
how
you
work
with
that
how
it
works.
I
know
the
county
executive
had
a
program
perhaps
still
does
of
sponsoring
plymouth
memberships
for
the
sheriff
and
local
law
enforcement.
G
What
is
it
like
to
do?
Clemis
because
I
also
saw-
and
I
couldn't
find
it
but
again,
but
one
of
your
line
items
got
zeroed
out
from
240
grand.
So
I
don't
know
if
that's
just.
D
D
D
D
So
when
when
law
enforcement
have
to
you
know
investigate
a
crash,
there's
a
crash
report,
so
there's
an
application
that
provides
that
if
you're
issued
a
citation
you
know
for
speeding
or
whatever
there's
an
application
that
manages
that
so
dispatch
for
police
departments
there's
an
application
that
manages
that
so
that's
part
of
the
clemas
suite,
if
you
will
of
products,
columbus
is
also
one
that
that,
over
the
years,
oakland
county
because
of
the
integration
between
the
applications
and
and
the
value
of
shared
data,
columbus
is
absolutely
operated
by
40
some
police
and
fire
agencies
in
oakland
county.
D
But
then
there
are
also
10
other
counties
outside
of
oakland
county
that
run
columbus
and
our
team
supports
them.
Our
network
team
connects
them
to
our
network.
Our
klemis
team
provides
the
application
support
and
in
the
same
way
we
do
for
the
sheriff-
or
you
know
the
ferndale
police
department
or
any
other
police
or
fire.
If
they
call
us
with
an
issue
we're
on
it,
we
provide
that
level
of
24
7
365
support
for
them.
G
Is
it
something
that-
and
I
may
be
misremembering,
but
I
don't
recall
like
hazel
park
having
columbus
is
every
police
department
in
our
community
using
columbus.
G
D
So
I
mean
we
because
of
the
the
volume
of
contracts
and
the
volume
of
the
the
dollar
magnitude.
We've
always
worked
very
closely
with
purchasing,
so
we're
happy
to
continue
doing
that.
You
know
any
new
initiatives
related
to
you
know:
diversity,
equity,
inclusion.
Obviously
you
know
within
the
county
executive
for
sure
we're
very
supportive
of
and
we'll
do
everything
we
can
to
support
that.
G
Okay
and
just
one
like
broader
point
it
dawned
on
me
when
gary
was
asking
questions
about
contract
extensions
is
like
there's
only
like
three
or
four
companies
that
do
most
of
the
things
you
want
right.
There
aren't.
You
know,
there's
microsoft
or,
like
you
said,
amazon
for
some
things
or
like
cloud,
but
you
know
there
aren't
like
50
people
that
could
be
applying
or
bidding.
So
when
we
get
mad
at
you
for
extending
contracts,
you're
kind
of
stuck
between
a
rock
and
a
hard
place
right.
It's
not
your
fault
that
there's
nothing.
D
I
I
take
your
point
and-
and
there
are
some
and
that
those
will
be
the
ones
that
that
I
will
bring
forth
as
a
recommendation,
that
you
know
it,
it
costs
too
much
or
we
don't
have
an
option
yeah,
but
but
there
are
absolutely,
as,
as
I
said,
I
believe
in
in
december.
In
that
presentation
you
know,
80
to
90
of
our
contracts
do
go
through
an
rfp
process,
every
five
years,
just
as
they're
supposed
to
through
that
policy.
G
Okay-
and
I
missed
this-
so
forgive
me
because
I
was
hearing
you
all
talk
about
it,
but
when
will
the
rate
study
be
done.
D
G
G
Okay
and
my
last
question
was-
I
was
looking
through
again
like
the
county,
purchasing
policies
and
stuff,
and
apparently
members
of
the
board
of
commissioners
or
their
designees
can
be
a
part
of
like
any
evaluation
panel.
If
I
read
it
right,
does
that
happen
did?
Would
you
like
that
idea?
Does
that
just
kind
of
get
in
the
way.
D
I
know
we
we
actually
did
have
a
board
member
that
was
part
of
the
radio
evaluation
because
of
the
scope
and
magnitude
this
eyes.
So
I
know
that's
happened
in
the
past.
I
you
know
I
many
of
our
it
evaluations
are
frankly,
very
technical.
Sure
I
mean
our
requirements
are
primarily
technical.
Obviously
cost
you
know
value
is,
is
a
consideration,
but
we
could
certainly
talk
if
there's
interest
in
any
particular
ones.
G
F
Long
all
right,
quick
because
on
this
expenditure
on
I'm
on
page
604,
I
hate
these
and
I'll.
All
of
us
do
this
charge
card
fee.
It
was
1.2
million
and
then
how?
Why
is
it
going
down?
Okay,
so
then
you're
predicting
in
2023
only
eight,
not
only
because
it's
a
lot
of
money,
828
828,
000.,.
D
So
so
those
are,
we
provide
the
support,
the
application
support
for
business
functions
within
the
county.
If
you
go
to
the
clerk's
office
and-
and
you
want
to
buy,
buy
a
service
from
the
clerk
a
birth
certificate,
you
can
charge
that
right.
We
provide
that
application
in
it,
so
there
are
changes
that
are
going
on
now.
You
may
recall
I
actually
brought
in
the
contract
with
elevon
a
few
months
ago.
F
C
Thank
you.
I
just
had
one
question
really
about
the
rate
study
keep
coming
back
because,
looking
at
all
the
departments,
every
budget
comes
in
here
and
tells
us
you
know
they
work
with
you
and
you
charge
them
and
all
that
I'm
a
little
bit
concerned
that
that
rate
study
is
going
to
like
blow
up
everybody's
budgets.
So
do
you
have
any
sense
of
you
said
we
haven't
done
this
in
10
years?
That's
a
little
unnerving!
C
D
So
we
we
haven't
done
the
study.
We
have
made
adjustments.
Oh
okay
and
the
adjustments
are,
you
know
we
estimate
based
on
inflation.
You
know
and
some
other
factors
we
should
bump
the
rate
up
three
percent,
so
we
we
forecast
that
the
departments
put
that
in
their
budget.
So
so
so
that's
just
that
historical
piece.
D
I
I
expect
what
will
happen
is
what
what's
happening
right
now.
Is
that
we
are.
We
are
getting
money
that
you
see
as
transfers
in
so
like
that
two
million
dollars
that
was
identified
in
the
in
the
general
fund
general
purpose
that
two
million
dollars
instead
of
coming
from
the
general
fund,
will
come
from
the
departments
which
are
funded
by
the
general
fund
for
the
most
part
right.
So
so
it
will.
D
D
C
D
C
C
C
B
C
C
For
all
the
good
information
really
appreciate
it,
the
preparation
is,
you
know,
there's
a
lot
to
it.
We
know
so
yeah.
Thank
you
for
all
of.
C
H
Good
afternoon,
I'm
ingrid
thai,
I'm
the
director
of
economic
development.
I
have
my
team
here.
Some
people
here
are
in
person
and
a
couple
are
online,
so
hopefully
our
I.t
folks
in
the
back
will
be
able
to
bring
them
in.
But
let
me
just
give
you
a
quick
overview
of
I.t
er
excuse
id
economic
development,
wrong
group
and
then
how
we're
going
to
proceed
today.
H
So,
just
as
a
refresher
economic
development
is
comprised
of
four
areas
of
operation,
four
divisions,
so
we
have
veteran
services
under
us
and
then
we
also
have
workforce
development
with
jennifer
llewellyn.
We
have
planning
under
brett
rassigan
and
then
the
fourth
area
is
business
development
with
louis
starks.
H
The
way
our
budget
is
comprised
jennifer,
llewellyn's
area,
workforce
development,
they
are
federally
and
state
funded
and
she
reports
to
a
workforce
development
board.
So
therefore,
that's
the
reason
she's
not
part
of
this
presentation.
Today,
those
numbers
are
not
on
these
books.
The
other
person
that
we
have
today
that
will
introduce
herself
is
cheryl
bush
with
the
airport.
She
is
now
under
the
economic
development
department,
with
a
direct
line
reporting
to
sean
carlson.
So
we
have
an
extra
member
of
the
band
for
today's
presentation
but
informing
her.
C
C
H
H
So
with
that,
we'll
go
ahead
and
begin,
as
you
can
see
here,
as
all
the
other
departments
are
also
briefing
you,
we
have
undergone
the
kpi
process
with
our
department
and
I'm
going
to
go
over
those
kpis
that
again
specifically
relate
to
the
budgets
that
we're
talking
about
today
in
those
three
divisions,
so
the
five
that
we
have
here
and
then
I'll,
let
cheryl
she'll
chime
in
when
we
get
to
her
portion
and
then
she'll
chime
in
on
her
kpis,
because
they
are
a
separate
group
with
that.
H
right
now
we
have
approximately
140
miles
in
the
county
and
that's
one
of
the
main
priorities
for
brett
rashigan
and
his
group,
the
second
area
for
business
development.
We
have
two
that
are
listed
here.
These
are
things
that
are
new
to
our
team
in
terms
of
measurement,
so
we
are
really
focused
on
defense
and
aerospace
and
growing
that
revenue.
How
do
we
help
our
manufacturers
and
other
companies
diversify
into
this
space?
H
We,
if
you
are
working
in
automotive
and
you're,
making
a
widget,
it's
very
likely
that
you
can
make
a
similar
widget
for
an
aircraft
of
some
sort.
So
how
do
they
get
a
piece
of
that
pie
of
the
federal
contracting?
There's
a
lot
of
potential
for
that
in
our
county
and
then
that
other
area
here
for
that
kpi
is
the
number
of
advanced
manufacturing
companies
in
oakland
county.
H
How
do
we
help
our
manufacturers
transition
into
industry
4.0,
which
is
the
implementation
and
the
adoption
of
high
technology
to
help
manufacturers
work
smarter
and
to
adopt
technology
like
artificial
intelligence
and
the
internet
of
things?
The
other
kpi?
We
have
number
four
that's
with
with
garth
and
his
group
number
of
benefits
and
applications
that
are
completed
on
behalf
of
veterans
and
dependents.
H
When
we
look
at
the
university
of
michigan
economic
outlook
report
that
we
receive
many
of
you
come
to
that
annual
luncheon
and
they
they
being
the
economists,
have
broken
up
our
county
into
several
regions.
And
so
that's
why
you
get
this,
what
they
call
the
central
and
these
different
groups,
but
we've
looked
at
those
that
are
falling
under
that
average
whole
household
income
and
very
focused
on
working
on
initiatives
that
help
bring
them
in
parity
with
the
other
groups.
H
So
pontiac
in
some
of
the
the
surrounding
areas.
H
H
H
H
just
an
example
of
how
we
measure
this
is
our
short-term
goals,
and
we,
this
is
a
work
in
progress.
We
just
got
the
software
several
months
ago
to
use
for
the
kpis,
so
we're
continuing
to
hone
these
tools,
but
some
of
the
things
you'll
see
moving
forward
is
the
addition
of
some
of
our
short-term
goals
for
getting
a
for
when
it
comes
to
trails,
it
takes
several
years
to
get
a
few
miles.
So
you
know
four
to
12.
Miles
will
be
up
here
for
our
next
goals,
but
we'll
work
through
those.
H
As
you
can
see
here,
we've
got
the
bar
graphs
to
help
indicate
the
average
household
income
for
those
different
regions.
I
mentioned
the
ones
in
advanced,
manufacturing
and
aerospace
and
defense
again,
we
hadn't
measured
it
in
those
ways
before
so
in
terms
of
revenue.
So
we
don't
have
those
bar
graphs
and
data
yet
because
we're
just
in
the
beginning
few
months
of
actually
collecting
that
data,
and
then
this
one
in
here
is
for
garth's
area
specifically
and
that's
how
many
benefits
have
been
delivered
to
our
veterans.
So
you
can
see
here
over
2100.
H
When
you
look
through
the
high
level
kpis,
then
we
drill
into
what
they
call
service
level
kpis.
These
are
the
three
areas
that
we
are
talking
about
today
in
terms
of
budget.
So
these
are
our
focuses,
so
our
business
development
team
under
lewis,
they
are
working
with
our
existing
companies
in
the
county.
How
do
we
help
them
grow
and
expand
and
thrive?
So
we
do
that
through
retention
visits,
we
talk
to
them
about
the
pain
points
and
the
areas
that
barriers
and
areas
that
they're
encountering
where
they
need
some
help.
H
We
connect
them
to
resources
that
we
have,
and
our
community
partners
that
we
work
with.
We
are
also
very
focused
on
key
sectors
such
as
the
automotive
and
mobility,
the
aerospace
and
defense,
advanced
manufacturing
and
digital
technology.
Those
are
all
areas
in
all
sectors
in
which
we
have
many
indirect
jobs
come
out
of.
So
when
you
have
these
four
sectors
doing
really
well,
then
we
see
communities
and
supply
chains
thrive
around
them,
and
then
you
also
see
retail,
restaurant
and
professional
services
also
do
well
under
the
planning
department.
These
are
our
focuses
here.
H
You
see
the
brownfield
redevelopment,
our
downtown
revitalization
trails
and
non-motorized
planning,
architectural
design,
assistance,
planning,
zoning
and
land
use
and
no
has
household
hazardous
waste
collection
and
then
last
for
garth
veterans,
client
services
and
then
transportation
and
again
these
are
all
areas
where
you
start
to
drill
down
and
those
charts
that
you
just
saw
on
the
previous
slide.
We
are
in
the
process
of
developing
those
charts
collecting
that
data,
so
we
are
finishing
most
of
them,
but
we'll
continue
to
work
on
that.
H
Okay
for
our
key
budget
changes
right
now.
So
last
year
I
was
joking
with
our
team.
We
were
overachievers.
We
hit
our
four
percent
in
the
first
year.
No,
but
we
are,
we
are
at
that
aspirational
goal:
four
percent.
We
achieved
that
through
our
reorgan
organization,
specifically
in
business
development,
and
so
therefore
you
know,
based
on
the
guidance
from
the
budget
director
kyle
jenn,
we
did
not
need
to
make
any
further
reduction,
so
we
have
no
changes
this
year
we
do
have
a
few
new
investments
to
our
budget.
H
H
A
lot
so
an
example
could
be
in,
and
it's
also
targeting
very
targeted
messaging.
So
an
example
is
we
try
to
attract
new
businesses
to
the
county,
so
there
are
publications
that
are
specific
to
site
selectors
who
work
around
the
nation
who
are
working
with
manufacturers
and
industrial
sites
and
companies
who
are
expanding
or
relocating
some
industrial
sites
and
companies
who
are
expanding
or
relocating.
H
So
you
know
it's
placing
ads
in
those
types
of
magazines,
specific
about
what
oakland
county
has
to
offer
and
how
to
get
in
touch
with
us.
It's
things
like
putting
in
marketing
materials
for
our
michigan
works
offices
and
letting
job
seekers
know
that
they
can
come
in
there.
So
again,
it's
it's!
It's
it's
ad
placements
media
buys
graphic
design
and
things
of
that
nature,
facebook
ads
to
just
make
sure
we're
getting
the
word
out
to
different
audiences
for
specific
programs.
H
H
000
for
event
planning
one
of
the
things
that
has
come
out
of
this
past
year
is
a
lot
of
our
staff,
have
been
tied
up,
so
to
speak
with
doing
a
lot
of
the
logistics
and
event
planning
aspects
of
some
of
our
events.
For
instance,
the
defense
and
aerospace
event
that
we
did
this
year.
Inaugural
event
was
great.
H
We
did
that
over
at
the
bloomfield
location
at
the
doubletree
had
about
200
small
businesses
come
talked
about
federal
contracting,
but
that
took
a
lot
of
our
staff
time,
booking
a
hotel,
picking,
meals,
doing
the
flyers
event,
registration,
all
that
stuff,
that
it
really
took
away
from
our
staff
time
to
actually
be
doing
their
day-to-day
jobs.
So
we
have
really
identified
with
a
lot
of
the
events
that
we're
doing
and
a
lot
of
the
initiatives
bringing
in
these
companies.
H
We
do
need
some
third
party
support
to
help
kick
those
off
and
honestly,
they
can
probably
do
that
pretty
well
for
us
other
than
that,
there's
no
other
major
funding
shifts
the
budget
is
similar
to
last
year
again
with
those
priorities
in
mind.
So
I
will
just
jump
here
to
the
next
thing.
With
the
initiatives
I
mentioned,
mobility,
aerospace
and
defense
and
advanced
manufacturing
are
ongoing
and
key
priorities
for
us
and
then
no
anticipated
I.t
projects
or
major
contracts
for
bid
right
now.
H
H
No,
so
we
haven't
so
maybe
maybe
it's
just.
I
guess
you
know
I
didn't
think
of
it
in
those
terms
we
just
had
them,
but
whether
it's
new,
I
was
looking
at
more
in
terms
of
contracting,
for
consulting
like,
for
instance,
we
have
kirk
soil
who
helps
us
out
with
our
mobility
initiative.
We've
got
that
on
contract.
So
so
I
guess
we
could
retweet
that
to
yeah
you're,
correct.
G
H
Would
be
for
our
maybe
smaller
is
not
the
right
word,
but
like
our
internal
day-to-day
things,
so
hillary
and
the
department
of
public
communications
is
broader
scale,
higher
level
big
initiatives,
those
things
like
that.
But
again
her
team
is
not
going
to
be
the
one
who
is
making
the
graphic
for
the
why
the
oakland
county
businesses
in
the
site,
selection
magazine
or
you
know,
for
so
those
day-to-day
operations
putting
those
facebook
ads.
It
would
just
be
handling
those
kinds
of
things
for
us.
G
Because,
yesterday
again
yesterday,
that's
what
they
said
the
they
said
literally,
they
make
flyers
for
county
commission
and
others.
So
I'm
this
isn't
like
right,
I'm
just
but.
H
It
also
is
the
media
buy.
So
if
you
go
back
and
you
look
at
just
to
put
it
into
scope
so-
and
I
can-
I
can
say
this-
also
based
on
my
experience
when
I
worked
for
downtown
birming,
150
000
so,
for
instance,
like
we
are
doing
your
veteran
campaign
for
transportation
for
some
of
your
services
with
the
veteran
funding
that
ad
placement
those
ad
placements
on
the
radio,
everything's
60,
80
000.
H
G
I
A
C
F
Mcgilvray
regarding
the
trails
you're,
hoping
to
add
trails.
Yes,
how
many
miles
of
trails
do
we
have
in
oakland
county
right
now,
141.
F
Okay,
soon
to
be
adding
some
because
we're
looking
toward
using
arp
money
to
have
quite
a
few
more
trails
and
they'll
click
on.
H
Yeah,
the
hope
is
to
work.
You
know
working
with
pontiac,
looking
at
things
like
the
pike
street
trail.
That
would
connect
the
clinton
river
trail
on
the
east
and
west
side.
Paulian
trail,
looking
at
some
of
those
how
we
can
connect
those
dots,
there's
some
also
gaps
in
the
iron
bell
and
some
others
that
we
like
to
look
at
that's.
E
H
So
no,
we
don't
own
any
trails.
Okay,
these
are
all
trails
and
that's
what
makes
it
tricky
or
it
takes
longer.
So,
for
instance,
clinton
river
trail
a
lot
of
these
others.
They
are
owned
by
their
respective
communities
or
by
other
non-profit
organizations.
Airline
trail.
That's
a
good
example
that
goes
through
many
member
communities.
So
our
role
is.
We
help
facilitate
the
development,
whether
it's
community
planning
providing
technical
assistance,
getting
convening
the
right
groups
together
to
do
community
advocacy.
H
H
C
A
A
We
do
have
some
initiatives
that
we're
using
grant
funding
that
we
got
from
the
state
of
michigan
through
the
county
veterans
service
fund,
grant
we've
already
been
approved
for
fiscal
year,
23
for
196
thousand
dollars
for
that
grant
and
we'll
be
utilizing
that
for
our
ongoing
initiatives,
which
we
utilize
it
for
those
programs
this
year
and
they
were
highly
successful,
so
we're
going
to
continue
to
have
our
resource
fairs
monthly.
A
We
were
just
in
southfield
this
morning
at
southfield,
high
school,
we'll
be
in
holly
next
thursday
at
the
veterans
area
resource
center
for
another
resource,
fair
we've
also
used
them
for
small
business
entrepreneur
workshops
that
we
partner
with
business
forward.
We
we're
going
to
plan
to
program
six
of
those
every
next
year,
so
one
every
other
month.
We
also
are
utilizing
that
to
continue
our
free
transportation
partnership
with
smart,
where
we
pay
them
to
provide
free
transportation
from
anywhere
in
oakland
county
to
our
offices
in
pontiac
and
detroit.
A
So
luckily,
again,
we've
been
able
to
get
that
funding
and
we're
going
to
continue
those
successful
programs
going
forward
anticipated.
I
t
projects
we're
going
to
use
the
mba
grant
funding
to
purchase
some
items
to
make
our
outreach
activities
even
more
efficient,
we're
going
to
purchase
a
scanner
so
that
we
can
scan
in
discharges
and
things
like
that
signature
pads
so
that
when
we
complete
forms
we
can
have
them
sign
those
electronically
so
and
major
contracts
up
for
bid.
C
A
A
We
also
get
them
by
food
boxes
from
forgotten
harvest,
so
we
buy
both
the
fresh
vegetable
and
a
protein
box,
so
they
can
get
both
of
those
and
a
fifty
dollar
meyer
gift
card
and
there's
all
kinds
of
resources.
There
we
had
oakland
county
parks
out
there
to
give
out
veterans
are
entitled
to
a
free
park
pass,
so
they
were
given
people
park.
Past
veterans
park
passes
right
there
at
the
event
and
a
ton
of
resources.
We've
we've
been
in
novi
we've
gone
throughout
the
county.
C
Well,
I'm
glad
you're
getting
good
turnout,
because
that's
one
area
that
I
think
it's
hard
to
communicate,
sometimes
with
the
veterans
community
and
to
we
really
want
to
make
sure
they
know
the
resources
are
there
and
can
access
them.
You
know
so
and.
H
You
know
other
partners
that
show
up
are
the
va,
the
state,
so
all
the
different
kinds
of
health
care,
housing,
employment
and
they
were
even
free
haircuts
today.
So
there
are
a
lot
of
different
resources
to
help
people.
That's
awesome.
A
The
va
suicide
prevention
hands
those
out,
so
they
do
hand
out
quite
a
few
and,
as
you
probably
know,
that's
one
of
the
areas
in
suicide
prevention
that
they
found.
If
you
can
get
somebody
to
think
about
it
for
even
a
period
of
time
to
that
it
takes
them
to
unlock
a
gun
lock
that
it
can
make
a
huge
difference
in
saving
lives.
C
That's
really,
you
do
really
great
work.
I
know
that
okay,
next
up
cheryl,
you
guys
have
fun
jobs.
I
can
tell
you.
I
We're
pretty
lucky
that
way,
so
we
have
two
headline
key
performance
indicators:
we've
identified:
one
is
our
fiscal
responsibility,
we're
really
proud
of
our
proprietary
fund
and
that
we
are
able
to
support
through
our
users
at
the
airport,
the
expenses
that
it
it
takes
to
run
the
airport.
So
one
of
our
headline
performance
goals
is
to
keep
an
eye
on
those
revenues
to
expense
ratios,
and
so
we're
looking
to
be
obviously
a
goal
over
the
number
one.
I
Due
to
our
reporting,
we've
had
just
one
month
where
it
fell
short,
but
I
think
that
was
a
timing
issue
from
you
can
see
our
third
bar
the
orange
bar.
I
I
The
second
kpi
we
identified
is
airport
activity.
We
aligned
that
with
livable
neighborhoods
and
making
sure
that
our
activity
levels
are
growing
to
support
the
financial
commitments
that
we
have
at
the
airport,
but
to
keep
an
eye
on
those
numbers,
as
we
also
counter
sometimes,
noise,
complaints
and
issues
that
people
claim
that
we
have
maybe
more
activity
at
the
airport
than
what
we
do
and
that
we're
growing
at
exponential
rates
that
sometimes
develop
into
noise
complaints.
I
So
this
is
a
good
target
for
us
to
be
able
to
always
know
exactly
where
we
stand
and
we
are
on
track
to
continue
to
increase
our
activity
levels
beyond
the
prior
year.
And
of
course,
everyone
knows,
we
were
impacted
by
the
pandemic.
So
I
think
we're
going
to
have
probably
130
000
or
more
operations
in
2022.
I
I
So
as
a
part
of
those
service
level,
kpis
we've
identified
three
of
which
we
don't
have
graphs
yet
to
show
we're
still
in
development
as
ingrid
had
mentioned.
But
I
would
hope
that
that
will
be
available
to
us
in
the
coming
months,
but
we'll
be
tracking
number
of
aircraft
accidents
and
incidents
in
the
safety
realm.
I
We
will
be
looking
at
our
hangar
capacity
by
airport.
How
many
are
occupied
versus
those
that
are
still
available,
what
are
occupied
by
aircraft
or
aviation
services
as
opposed
to
non-aviation,
and
then,
lastly,
we'll
be
looking
at
the
number
of
work,
order,
repairs
and
time
to
complete
the
repair
to
make
sure
that
we're
maintaining
our
facilities
and
servicing
our
airport
tenants.
I
So
our
budget
changes
are
relatively
minor
in
nature.
Again
we're
pretty
much
repeating
the
baseline
that
we
had
from
prior
year.
We
do
have
some
slight
increases
in
revenue
rates
with
our
increasing
expenses.
We've
also
took
a
survey.
We
went
back
and
evaluated
and
between
last
year's
budget
and
next
year's
budget
we
have
some
small
increases
that
we'll
be
implementing.
I
We
are
in
the
process
of
replacing
a
one
of
our
full-time
specialist
maintenance
specialists.
He's
we've
had
a
long-term
disability
issue
in
the
department
and
we
run
on
14
full-time
maintenance
and
rescue
specialists
for
hour
seven
days
a
week,
operations
at
three
airports,
so
we
have
a
relatively
small
team
and
each
person
missing
is
a
hardship
to
the
rest
of
the
team,
so
we're
anxious
to
get
that
replacement
person
on
staff,
and
we
are
reviewing
a
position
that
we
have
out
at
our
oakland
southwest
airport,
who
is
identified
as
a
maintenance
laborer.
I
It's
really
not
the
right
title.
It
doesn't
really
reflect
the
the
performance
and
responsibility
of
that
position,
so
we're
going
through
that
process
with
hr
right
now.
The
biggest
change
of
the
budget
will
be
an
increase
in
our
cost
for
u.s
customs
service
in
our
post
pandemic
time
period.
Now
we're
extending
that
service.
It
had
been
basically
cut
in
half
during
pre
during
the
pandemic
because
of
the
stall
on
international
travel,
and
so
we
had
reduced
our
hours
to
just
morning.
I
I
So,
with
that
comes
a
very
large
charge
back
from
u.s
customs
because
we're
a
user
fee
airport
we
have
to
have
to
self-sustain.
So
we
are
going
to
have
to
increase
our
customs
fees,
but
I
think
that
they're
still
very
much
in
line
with
what
other
airports
user
fee
airports
are
charging,
so
those
rates
had
not
been
adjusted
for
a
very
long
time.
So
that's
really
the
biggest
adjustment
that
we
will
have
ongoing
initiatives,
we're
returning
staffing
levels
in
the
admin
office
to
pre-pandemic
levels
as
well,
we're
getting
ready
to
implement
our
new
rent
manager.
I
Software
system,
which
is
going
to
help
us
improve
our
leaseback
program
and
it'll,
offer
for
the
first
time
a
payment
option
that
our
tenants
will
be
able
to
pay
their
monthly
hangar
rental
fees
online
can't
come
soon
enough,
but
we
don't
do
that
yet
wow,
it's
been
a
very
long
time.
Coming
back,
it's
been
a
very,
very
long
process,
but
we
cross
your
fingers
we're
almost
there.
I
We
have
relatively
few
contracts
other
than
landscaping
and
snow
plowing
at
smaller
airports
and
we're
using
we're
working
with
the
purchasing
department
on
the
purchase
of
our
new
airport
fire
fighting
rescue
vehicle.
So
that's
the
really
the
biggest
contract
that
we'll
see
in
23..
F
Commissioner
long
I
just
wanted
to
mention,
since
she
was
talking
about
the
air,
the
open
house
is
sunday,
were
you
gonna
mention
it
the
airport
one,
it's
very,
it's
good
and
there's
an
air
show.
What
is
it
ten
to
four?
What's.
F
I
C
The
southwest
airport,
I
know
we've
been
out
there
and
I
know
you
re-did
the
runway
right,
yeah
out
there,
and
I
also
know
there
were
trees
that
were
problematic.
Does
this
all
relate
to?
How
does
that
airport's
future?
Look
what
what
are
the
plans
for
that
airport,
because
it's
not
very
big
and
it
has
a
lot
of
those
little
ga
planes-
and
you
know,
tell
me
a
little
bit
about
that.
Are
the
planes?
H
I'll
I
can
talk
about
like
big
picture
and
then
cheryl
can
jump
into
some
of
the
the
granular
details.
One
of
the
things
that
we're
exploring
in
our
mobility
area
is,
I
think,
people
automatically
jump
to
mobility
and
just
vehicles,
but
there's
actually
air
mobility
like
if
you
think
about
drones,
vertiports
and
then
there's
also
a
third
component.
There's
c
that's
going
on,
so
we
are
looking
at
what
are
the
possibilities
with
that
airport
in
terms
of
working
with
the
faa
and
are
there
opportunities
to
get
vertaport
opportunities?
H
We're
looking
at
trying
to
attract
companies
who
are
in
the
r
d
space
who
are
doing
you
know
making
research
and
projects
and
headway
in
that
area
and
how
that
can
also
relate
to
transit?
You
know
tying
that
into
some
of
the
other
contracts,
the
federal
contracts,
defense
that
we're
working
with
and
then
we're
looking
at
you
know.
H
I
I
We
also
signed
a
lease
agreement
with
the
warbirds
of
glory,
so
we
have
the
new
museum
out
there
that
I
think
will
breathe
some
fresh
life
into
the
airport,
we're
in
the
midst
of
an
environmental
assessment
funded
by
a
state
grant
that
will
allow
us
to
deal
with
some
of
the
obstructions
and
potentially
some
land
acquisition.
That
will
help
us
clear
the
obstacles.
I
But
we
do
have
this
10-acre
parcel
on
the
east
end
of
the
airport
that
is
really
not
being
utilized,
and
so
that's,
where
we're
partnering,
together
with
ingrid's
group,
to
look
at
what
the
future
might
hold
for
non-aviation
use
out
of
that
that
parcel,
if
that
makes
any
sense,
but
we
know
we
have
some
hoops
to
jump
through
and
we'll
get
a
little
bit
more
educated
about
it
and
what
the
faa
is
going
to
allow
us
to
do
at
the
same
time.
Okay,
thank.
B
The
troy
airport-
yes,
it
seems
to
be
getting
very
built
up
around
there
hi
trees
buildings,
because
I
know
because
a
lot
of
the
planes
fly
over
my
house
going
there,
but
what
that's
how's,
that
coming
back
once
again
from
the
pandemic,
seems
like
there's
more
and
more
and
more
office
construction
all
around
it.
Yes,
the.
I
The
the
all
of
the
airports
were
affected
by
the
pandemic.
Definitely
and
the
activity
levels
are
improving
at
all
airports,
including
troy.
Yes,
good.
H
For
ours,
okay,
that's
been
a
great.
That's
actually
been
a
huge
success,
yeah
so
with
the
george
drainage
project,
every
single
community,
I
think,
but
one
I
chose
to
accept
the
funding
for
that
project.
We've
had
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
trees
planted.
So
that's
been
wildly
successful.
So
yes,
that
would
be
great
to
keep
moving
forward
with
programs
like
that.
I.
C
H
C
Yeah
and
in
it
it
said
that
the
community
said
they'd
like
us
to
do
it
again
if
we
could
so.
E
I
just
wanted
to
add
to
that,
since
I
know
brett's
listening
is
that
one
or
one
or
more,
of
the
trees
we
planted
in
royal
oak
township
got
disturbed,
and
so
when,
when
it's
laying
on
its
eye,
like
that,
they
blame
us
for
not
caring
about
the
park.
So-
and
this
is
macro,
is
that
what
it's
called
so
I'd
just
like
to
put
that
on
the
radar?
F
H
G
H
H
So
right
now,
there's
been
some
workforce
development
ones
we're
working
through
a
few
others,
whether
or
not
we
can,
whether
that
qualifies
or
not
we're
going
to
look
into
that
because
I
agree
so
the
commissioner
cabell,
I
don't
remember
whose
idea
was
it
was
idea
that,
can
we
offer
grants
to
communities
to
businesses
to
help
them
implement
measures
to
allow
accessibility
so,
for
instance,
if
you're
in
a
historic
downtown
or
in
an
old
building,
and
you
need
to
retrofit
your
entrance
so
that
someone
can
come
in
for
with
a
wheelchair
and
get
access?
H
I
think
it's
a
great
idea.
I
think
it's
just
finding
out
what
whether
it
qualifies
for
arp
or
how
that
works.
So,
but-
and
I
mentioned
this
in
email-
but
what
we
have
done,
though,
as
we
as
that
sits
in
the
queue
essentially
is
we
have
a
team
ron
campbell
on
our
team,
our
architect,
our
historic
architect.
He
has
done
a
couple
of
presentations
out
there
to
communities
on
what
you
can
do
with
your
code.
H
Compliance
group
how
you
can
make
referrals,
because
a
lot
of
local
municipalities,
the
code
inspectors
or
those
teams
can
give
advice.
The
second
thing
that
we're
also
working
on
is,
as
our
business
forward
program
gets
built
up,
built
up,
we're
going
to
be
in
the
process
of
getting
consultants
on
board
tax
advisors
lawyers.
So
can
we
have?
There
are
specialists
out
there
who
can
actually
advise
a
business
on
accessibility?
And
how
do
you
restore
it,
because
I
think
a
lot
of
people
are
not
aware
of
the
ada
compliance
requirements
and
the
laws.
H
So
it's
just
a
matter
of
educating
people
explaining
what's
going
on.
So
that's
one
of
the
the
consultants
that
we
want
to
get
in
that
queue
or
in
that
pool
of
people.
So
the
grant
opportunity,
that's
something
we
just
have
to
explore.
Yeah.
H
I
I
mean
I
I
don't
no,
I
just
because
I
know
you
know
the
executive
team
is
going
through
the
queue
right
now,
they're
going
through
a
lot
of
other
applications
too
right
now,
so
I
can't
speak
to
that.
Okay,.
H
That
the
reason
for
that
is,
there
is
a
three
million
dollar.
What's
the
word,
I'm
looking
for
the
pro
project
for
the
world
economic
forum
with
medc.
So
if
you
remember
that,
don't.
H
Night,
okay,
so
that
partnership
with
medc
and
the
county
and
automation
alley
so
that
money
those
dollars
were
put
in
that
line
item
there.
That.
G
I
thought
so
if
it
so
then
help
me
understand
budget
language,
I'm
sorry,
but
in
the
categorical
thing
it
says,
contract
services
decreased
primarily
due
to
professional
services,
which
includes
the
three
million
dollar
one-time
appropriation
for
the
advanced
manufacturing
hub
with
auto
alley.
Is
that
the
same.
H
C
B
C
C
F
J
You
so
so
good
afternoon.
Yes,
I'm
lisa
brown,
the
oakland
county
clerk
register
of
deeds
to
my
right
is
joe
roselle.
Director
of
elections
to
my
left
is
craig
jones.
Chief
deputy
register
of
deeds
and
jennifer
howden
is
joining
us
virtually.
I
don't
know
how
you
can
see
her
hear
her,
but
anyway
she
is
the
chief
deputy
clerk,
so
she's
here
virtually
sorry
there.
She
is
thanks,
john.
J
I
guess
I
could
have
said
this
before
we
started,
but
before
we're
going
to
the
budget
just
a
reminder,
because
we
got
some
phone
calls
and
things.
I
know
you
all
love
the
directories
but
make
sure
you're
not
campaigning
with
them.
There
shouldn't
be
campaign
stickers
on
them
because
it's
something
paid
for,
but
with
taxpayer
dollars.
So
you
shouldn't
be
so
just
a
reminder.
You
can
put
you
have
our
own
stickers
from
the
board
of
commissioners.
That's
fine!
J
That's
you
know
as
long
as
it's
not,
but
it
doesn't
say,
vote
for
or
or
reelect,
or
nothing
like
that.
So
just
just
a
friendly
reminder
of
that.
So
just
a
little
what's
been
happening
where
we've
been
at
since
the
last
time.
We
did.
This
a
year
ago,
if
you
remember
a
year
ago,
we
were
by
appointment
only
and
in
april
I
believe
it
was
april.
25Th.
Jenny
will
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
the
circuit
court
reopened
and
knowing
that
date
was
coming.
J
We
then
moved
to
a
hybrid,
so
we
are
still
taking
appointments,
but
we
also
take
walk-ins.
So
if
you
have
an
appointment,
you
know,
and
if
it's
that
time,
you're
going
to
be
helped
before
the
walk-in
when
it
comes
to
passports,
that
is
appointment
only
it
is.
I
think
it's
been
so
much
better
for
us
to
operate
that
way.
J
In
the
past,
before
we
had
appointments,
we'd
have
to
put
out
a
press
release
and
things
on
the
door
during
election
time
during
canvas
during
all
that,
when
you
know
staff
is
all
in
on
elections
like
okay,
we're
not
going
to
be
taking
passports
for
the
next
two
weeks
or
whatever,
and
it
was
just
so
it
just.
This
is
smoother
to
be
able
to
just
like
not
to
take
appointments
during
that
time.
So
I
think
that's
worked
out
really
well
yeah
and
you're.
B
J
I
know
my
post
office
they're,
not
they're,
not
doing
passports,
so
you
know
there's
fewer
and
fewer
places
that
offer
it
and
so
yeah
I
mean
it's,
it's
a
wonderful
service
that
we
offer
and
but
it
does
work
really
well
for
our
staff
and,
I
think,
for
the
customers,
because
if
you
have
20
people
come
in
at
the
same
time,
they
can't
all
be
helped
at
the
same
time.
J
So
it's
just
it's
an
efficiency
so,
but
otherwise
everything
else
is:
is
the
hybrid
that
people
have
the
option
to
make
an
appointment
still
or
they
can
just
walk
in
and
we
help
them
as
as
we
did
in
the
past.
I
wanted
to
thank
you
again
for
passing
the
resolution
that
opposed
what
I
call.
What
many
of
us
call
the
zillow
bills.
J
J
That's
still
out
there,
not
the
zillow
bills,
but
that
would
kind
of
do
the
same
thing
regarding
court
records
and
and
allowing
people
to
everybody
to
have
access
to
every
court
record
for
free
without
even
having
an
account
to
log
into
or
anything,
and
you
know
the
concern
with
both
of
those
packages
or
bills
or
whatever
is
data
mining,
and
that
these
third
parties
are.
J
You
know
just
downloading
all
of
our
records
and
they're,
making
a
profit
off
of
them,
but
they
could
also
be
changing
things,
and
you
know
fraud
could
happen
there.
We
are
the
official
keeper
of
the
records.
This
is
where
the
record
should
be.
It
shouldn't,
be.
You
know
a
third
party
having
all
of
our
documents,
so
the
the
bill
regarding
court
records,
I
believe,
passed
the
house.
It
has
not
moved
in
the
senate
and
I'm
hoping
that's
how
it
stays.
J
I
do
know
that
the
state
court
administrative
office
was
working
with
the
bill
sponsor
to
try
and
get
something
that
everybody
would
be
on
board
with,
but
I'm
hoping
that
that
doesn't
happen
because
it
would
have
a
negative
impact
on
our
budget,
but
I'm
keeping
an
eye
on
it,
so
so
things
that
are
actually
in
the
budget
here,
if
you
notice,
we
have
an
increase
to
reimburse
general
that's
really
if
you're
looking
at
our
budget,
if
you're
just
looking
at
like
the
first
page,
that's
all
of
my
departments
combined
versus
going
into
each
individual,
it's
for
elections
and
from
our
combined
av
counting
board
absentee
voter
accounting
board.
J
If
you
remember
you,
you
supported
our
resolution
for
a
fee
schedule
which
is
really
it's
is
what
the
what
the
line
item
is
it's
a
reimbursement.
So
it's
for
the
communities
that
we
tabulate.
For
you
know,
many
of
the
fees
are
proportionate.
Some
are
shared.
Equally,
it
just
depends
on
what
the
fee
is
but
like
paying
the
workers
right.
So
for
this
august
primary
we
hired
a
little
over
200
people.
J
So
that's
that's
being
paid
for
by
the
municipalities
that
we
accounted
for
and
based
on
a
proportionate
basis
of
how
many
ballots
we
tabulated
for
them.
So
joe
and
steph
have
to
do
the
math
on
that
to
figure
out
how
much
everybody
owes,
but
so
not
doing
that
so
so
reimburse
general,
but
also
so
again,
just
to
explain
then
that's
kind
of
offset
on
another
line
item
by
fees
per
diem
under
contractual
services.
That's
just
one
example!
J
So
that's
the
workers
that
we're
paying
for,
but
if
we
have
to
rent
space
that
we're
using
to
tabulate
the
ballots,
for
we
have
to
put
an
ad
in
the
paper.
The
meals
like
all
these
different
things
that
are
those
costs
that
the
clerks
would
be
paying
for
if
they
were
doing
it
themselves.
You
know
we're
not
making
a
profit
on
this
by
any
means,
there's
still
things
that
we
there's
still
costs
that
we're
eating.
My
staff
is
working
overtime
monday.
You
know
the
night
before
the
election.
J
That
was
not
a
night
that
they
were
normally
working
overtime,
but
it's
to
be
there
to
accept
all
the
ballots
from
the
municipalities.
So
you
know
there
are
costs
that
that
are
increased
to
us,
that
we're
not
being
reimbursed
for,
but
again
when
we
proposed
this
to
the
local
clerks,
who
we
were
tabulating
for
at
the
time
were
like.
Would
that
be
a,
and
I
mean
all
of
them
said
my
board
will
prove
it
no
problem
like
they?
J
Nobody
blinked
and
I,
and
I
mean
we
increased-
how
many
communities
we
we
tabulated
for
so,
but
I
just
want
to
explain
like
why
you
know
you'll
see
an
increase
in
those
I
I
picked
out
fees
per
diem
because
that's
the
biggest
one,
but
while
you're
seeing
increases
in
those
line
items
another
one
also
in
the
elections
budget
is
nominating
filing
forfeit
is
the
name
of
the
line
item
the
legislature
changed
the
law
in
regards
to
filing
fees.
You
pay
a
hundred
dollars
to
run
for
office.
J
And
that's
not
the
case
anymore,
so
the
legislature
changed
that
and
made
it
all
non-refundable,
which
again
that's
savings
for
my
team
of
not
having
to
figure
out
and
and
they'd
have
people
call
and
say:
oh,
my
check
expired.
Can
you
issue
me
a
new
one
and
then
we're
in
another
budget,
and
it
was
always
a
issue.
J
The
one
I'd
say
imperfection
at
best
with
the
legislation
was
they
said
that
the
that
revenue
is
earmarked
for
election
equipment,
but
they
did
not
require
a
restricted
fund
for
it.
So
I
mean
I've
talked
to
kyle
to
say:
we've
got
to
keep
track
of
this
every
year
so
that
when
we
need
money
for
now,
is
this
going
to
pay
for
all
of
our
election
equipment,
not
even
close?
Okay.
This
is
a
drop
in
the
bucket
to
what
we
have
spent
and
need
to
spend
for
our
equipment.
J
But
this
is
this
is
how
the
legislature
wanted
it.
It
was
the
way
to
make
them
feel
better
that
I
think
I
think
that
the
legislature
was
thinking
here,
we're
giving
you
this
money
clerks.
So
don't
come
to
us
in
another
10
years
for
money.
For
new
voting
equipment,
but
again
this
no
municipality
will
discover
it,
but
but
anyways.
So
that's
it
so
that,
even
though
it
goes
into
the
general
fund
because
there's
not
a
restricted
fund
because
they
didn't
require
that
it's
earmarked.
J
Another
thing:
that's
kind
of
hanging
out
there
is
the
remonumentation
fee,
so
that
is
set
to
be
reduced
next
year,
23
or
25.
I
want
to
say
23.
J
so
for
every
document
that
is
recorded
in
the
register
of
deeds
office.
Four
dollars
right
goes
to
riemann.
If
you
remember,
I
come
to
you
every
year
with
with
the
grant
for
remonumentation,
so
we
collect
money.
Some
of
that
goes
to
the
state.
We
get
it
back,
that's
the
thing
with
the
corners
with
our
surveyors
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
So
it's
supposed
to
go
from
four
dollars
to
two
dollars.
I
know
that
register
of
deeds
have
an
interest
in
making
it
stay
at
four
dollars.
J
I
don't
know
if
that's
going
to
happen
or
not,
so
so
that's
that,
as
far
as
asks,
I
think
with
my
questionnaire,
I
only
put
in
one
thing,
which
was
more
staff:
we're
going
to
need
more
staff
in
the
legal
division
legislature
once
again
with
with
the
state
credit
administrative
office,
so
we're
having
auto
set-asides.
J
So
do
I
get
on
my
soapbox?
No
okay,
I
won't
the
fact
that
people
won't
even
know
that
this
is
happening
with
their
records.
I
I
find
a
little
troubling,
but
I
would
hate
for
somebody
to
apply
for
a
job
and
say.
Yes,
I
have
a
criminal
record,
but
it's
been
set
aside
and
they
don't
know
that
because
there's
no
way
to
notice
it.
But
anyway,
that's
that's
my
opinion.
J
We
are
likely
to
have
a
million
records
that
we
need
to
take
out
of
our
records.
Take
off.
You
know
so
that
they're
not
public
in
october.
We're
going
to
have
an
idea
as
to
what
that
looks
like
in
april
is
when
they're
saying
it
will
be,
it
will
go
live
so
my
what
we
keep
asking
is.
Are
we
getting
a
million
records
at
once?
Are
we
getting
them
in
bunches
like
how's
this
going
to
work
for
us?
What
is
it
going
to
look
like,
and
so
in
october?
J
We'll
have
an
idea,
but,
but
we
do,
I
think
they
told
us
or
johnny
correct
me
like
somehow.
We
know
it's
going
to
be
like
a
million
records
for
us,
so
we're
going
to
need
more
staff
to
to
do
that.
It's
a
new
task
that
we've
never
had
before
and
it's
going
to
be
ongoing,
so
we
have
set
asides
currently,
but
this
is
going
to
be
a
whole.
This
is
going
back
to
the
beginning
of
time.
J
Basically,
so
so
it'll
be
a
lot
of
work
for
us,
so
we'll
need
some
extra
staff
for
that,
and
you
know
I
looking
at
the
information
you
know
we
got
all
this
information.
Look
at
what
this
strategic
plan
is
and
look
at
this
and
look
at
this,
and
you
know
see
how
your
asks
play
into
this.
So
you
know
I
see
that
one
of
the
county
goals
is
public
safety.
J
You
know
it's
a
concern
that
we
don't
have
that
in
the
courthouse
and
concern
obviously,
is
an
understatement.
It's
scary!
It's
really
scary
that
we
don't
have
that.
We
have
obviously
wonderful
people
that
work
here.
We
have
very
important
documents
here
and
to
not
have
any
fire
suppression.
C
J
Have
nothing
so
I
you
know
I
I
know
that
we're
grandfathered
in
that's
why
it's
not
there.
I
don't
think
that's
a
good
excuse,
though,
especially
when
we
have
resources
that
perhaps
we
didn't
have
before
like
arpa.
So
I
know
when
you
talk
infrastructure,
you're,
looking
county-wide,
but
but
I
I
beg
you
to
look
where
we're
sitting
right
and
and
take
care
of
us
and
our
records
and
everything
else
so
and
the
commissioner
has
a
question.
Oh.
B
Actually
not
madam
chair,
I
I
I
you
probably
told
us
this
last
year
and
I
probably
missed
it.
This
is
this.
Is
I
found
it
shocking?
Let's
may
I
suggest
that
this
committee
as
we're
doing
the
budget,
I
understand
the
facilities
were
yesterday.
Let's
ask
them
about
this.
I'd
like
to
follow
up
on
this,
because
we're
talking
about
the
records
here
and
they're-
probably
irreplaceable,
I'd
like
to
immediately
ask
facilities
what's
the
deal
here
and
what
is
their
plan
to
remediate
the
situation
and
do
it
as
quick
as
possible?
Okay,.
J
Yeah
I've
been
saying
this
for
a
long
time.
Really
so,
and-
and
let
me
just
say
at
one
point-
and
maybe
you
remember
how
many
years
ago,
but
there
was
the
domino
plan
four
or
five
years
ago,
probably
which
there
was
another
department
county
department
that
currently
is
not
within
this
building
that
was
going
to
be
moving
into
this
building.
My
understanding
is
because
somebody
else
was
moving
in
it
lifted.
J
I
think
the
grandfather
clause,
and
so
it
would
have.
Then
then
fire
suppression
and
all
these
other
things
fixing
the
hvac
giving
us
new
lighting,
because
our
lighting
is
actually
a
fire
hazard,
which
is
more
than
ironic.
You
know
the
ballasts
that
we
have
they're
they're,
really
old.
They
don't
make
them
like
that
anymore.
We
should
have
led
lights.
We
don't
and
we've
actually
had
a
fire
from
our
lights
in
the
register
of
deeds.
J
C
J
And
I
and
I
walked
through
with
with
folks
from
facilities
and
homeland
security.
The
whole
thing
you
know
seeing
where
the
what
are
they
called
the
things
that
fire.
J
Where
those
are
and
everything
else-
and
I
mean
I
pointed
out-
even
you
know
they
were-
and
I
love
their
attention
to
detail,
which
is
absolutely
needed.
Some
of
the
maps
that
are
on
the
walls
like
for
the
public
to
say,
if
there's
like
an
emergency
exit
like
I
don't
they're,
not
they're,
not
perfect
I'll,
just
leave
it
back.
So
you
know
they're.
J
They
were
noticing
everything
and
taking
note
of
everything,
but
I
know
it
would
be
a
lot
of
work,
but
I
don't
know
I
I'm
sure,
there's
so
many
different
options
out
there,
but
just
having
a
fire
extinguisher
under
a
counter
is
not
is
not
comforting
right,
so
so
yeah.
So
I
asked
for
that
and
I
before
yesterday
morning
I
would
have
stopped
there
and
said
any
questions,
but
I
don't
know
if
you
know
what
happened
yesterday
morning
the
courthouse
was
was
without
power
and
so
a
few
issues
with
that
one.
J
Oddly,
the
fire
alarm
was
going
off.
So
this
must
have
been
early
yesterday.
It
was,
I
mean
staff
was
here
eight
o'clock,
so
I
mean
we
had
customers
and
it
was
you
know.
Looking
around
like.
Okay,
is
there
a
fire
what's
going
on,
so
the
fire
alarm
or
smoke
alarms
are
connected
to
the
power
going
out,
which
I
you
know
you
have
an
alarm
at
home,
it
beeps
whatever,
but
a
little
confusing,
and
then
extra
scary.
When
you
know
you
don't
have
fire
suppression
like
how
serious
do
I
need
to
take
this?
J
There
were
no
emergency
lights
in
the
register
of
deeds,
a
reminder
that
now
our
phones
are
voip
and
so
phones
don't
work
when
the
power
goes
out
right.
Let's
see
there
was
something
else
am
I
forgetting.
I
gotta
put
my
glasses
on
no
phones,
the
alarms
went
off
yeah
and
we
can't
work
so
having
a
backup
generator.
That's
more
than
just
emergency
lights
would
be
ideal.
I
know
that
tom
hardesty
had
recently
sent
out.
J
Oh
it's
time
to,
you
know,
update
the
b
corps
and
I
know
that
there
are
other
buildings
on
campus
that
do
have
generators.
I
think
what
we
do
is
here
is
pretty
important
and-
and
and
and
I
mean
so-
many
things
are-
are
connected
to
electricity.
All
these
people,
you
guys,
are
parked
in
there
that
gate
is
connected
to
electricity
right.
You
want
to
leave,
I
mean
good
luck.
J
You
can't
walk
drive
through
anywhere
because
we've
got
the
fence
all
around,
so
we
need
to
have-
and
obviously
this
isn't
just
for
me-
you
think
about
the
courts-
and
you
know
a
lot
of
our
judges.
Their
their
hearings
are
via
zoom.
Well,
you
need
electricity
for
that,
and
even
if
we
have
people
were
working
remotely
they're
logging
into
their
computers
here.
So
it's
not
like
oh
well,
we
can
send
people
home
and
they
can
do
work
from
home,
or
at
least
the
people
who
are
working
remotely
can
still
do
work.
J
No
because
they're
using
go
to
my
pc
to
connect
here.
So
you
know
we're
shut
down
when
that
happens,
and
so
I
think,
having
a
generator
would
be
a
a
wise
investment.
J
B
Yeah
we've
actually
made
special
arrangements
to
have
the
room,
rewired
and
a
temporary
generator
brought
in
before
every
election.
Just
so,
we
can
continue
to
put
results
out
if
we
were
to
lose
power,
but
that
would
become
obviously
unnecessary
if
the
whole
building
was
on
a
generator.
But
we've
had
to
try
to
to
protect
the
integrity
of
things
work
around
not
having
one.
J
J
well,
no
I
picked
before
that.
17
is
when
it
was,
but
when
we
picked
all
right
well,
we
started
with
new
equipment.
So
it
was
a
very
long
rfp
process.
There
were
three
voting
equipment,
vendors
and
each
county
clerk
picks
that's
in
the
law
with
it
it
requires
input
from
the
local
clerks,
but
and
so
our
vendor
heart
went
through
federal
certification
for
4g
modems.
J
The
other
vendors
did
not
do
that.
That's
an
expense
to
go
through
that
process,
but
ours
did
that,
and
so
we
have
the
the
capability
to
continue
to
have
results
from
precincts
modemed
into
us
on
election
night.
J
J
I
know.
I'd
probably
drive
them
crazy,
but
you
know
we
plan
we
like
to
be
prepared
and
we
want
to
know
what
we're
going
to
be
dealing
with
and
and
have
a
solution
that
ensures
the
security
of
the
results.
But
you
know
we
also
want
to
continue
to
be
a
leader
with
having
results
out
there.
So
you
know,
and
one
of
the
things
that
that
will
keep
us
there
is,
in
my
opinion,
the
combined
av
counting
board,
because
this
this
past
august,
we
tabulated
for
19
of
our
communities
by
805.
J
Those
av
results
were
up
out
to
the
public,
and
I
can
tell
you
from
my
past
experience
like
when
I,
when
I
ran
for
state
rep,
I
was
up
till
three
o'clock
in
the
morning
waiting
for
the
av
results,
and
that
was
actually
what
determined
my
race.
I
had
two
opponents
in
2008
and
2010,
who
both
declared
victory
before
the
av
votes
had
been
posted
and
then
obviously
I
won
they
didn't
so
anyway.
It's
we
know,
I
know
so.
J
You
know-
and
I
know
election
night
is
so
stressful,
especially
when
your
name's
on
the
ballot
but
there's
but
other
people
care
too.
Voters
want
to
know
so
I
do
want
to
again
applaud
joe
and
my
entire
team
and
thank
all
the
200
plus
people
who
worked
for
us
on
election
day.
J
They
did
a
great
job,
they
were
done
well
before
8
pm
and
it's
because
we
have
a
great
plan
and,
and
we
know
to
hire
the
right
amount
of
people-
I
mean
we
again,
we
do
math,
we
do
math
and
you
know
figuring
out,
okay,
we're
going
to
have
this
many
ballots.
We
need
this
many
people
to
be
able
to
tabulate
this
many
ballots
to
be
done
by
8
pm.
So
I'm
going
to
stop
talking
and
let
you
ask
questions
now:
okay,.
F
J
Haven't
since
covid
I'm-
and
I
do
want
to
add
the
caveat-
I
did
during
covert
open
the
satellite
office
in
troy,
so
that
has
been
another
way
that
people
can
access
our
services.
That's
my
appointment
when
I
talk
about
appointment,
that's
also
by
appointment
only
but
I'm
getting
there.
You
know
I
I
we're
getting
there.
We
will
be
doing
it
again.
Okay,.
J
But
that
it's
not
one
day
a
week,
oh
no,
I
do
have
a
couple
employees.
Let
me
I
gotta
think
okay,
so
I
do
have
a
couple
of
employees.
I'm
thinking
jenny's,
probably
like
raising
her
hand
yeah.
I
do
have
a
couple
employees
who
the
majority
of
their
time
work
remotely
and
are
here
one
day,
one
or
two
days
on
site,
but
the
majority
overwhelming
majority
of
my
staff
we're
here
five
days
a
week.
F
Okay,
the
av
counting,
that's
going
well,
yes,
and
you
had
said
19
cities
here
we.
J
Did
this
past
for
august,
we
we
we
contracted
with
19
of
our
cities
and
townships
okay,.
F
J
Almost
60
000
ballots
it's
over
a
third
of
the
county.
It's
not
all
small
municipalities,
it's
not
all
large
municipal.
It's
everything
from
from
quite
large
to
you
know
to
smaller
municipalities,.
F
J
No
problem
yep,
no
yeah,
you,
you
guys
put
50
000
into
cover
for
expedited
shipping
so
that
they
could
be
sent
out
earlier
yeah.
I
mean
that
that
ended
last
fall
that
fifty
thousand
dollars,
and
I
don't
think
it
was
I'm
trying
to
think
I
don't
think
it
was
all
used,
but
no
there's
no,
no
issues.
No!
J
No.
There
is
legislation
not
that
it
affects
our
side,
but
it
does
for
funeral
homes,
and
that
was
like
the
issue.
There
is
a
two
bill
package
that
would
allow
somebody,
besides
the
attending
physician,
to
sign
off
on
a
death
record,
because
that
has
been
a
hold
up
for
people
to
be
able
to
get
death
records
that
they're
waiting
for
the
doctor
to
sign
it.
Funeral
home
can't
do
anything
until
so.
That's
moving
along,
but
yeah.
No
everything,
everything's
hunky-dory
with
us.
C
That's
all
I
am
okay,
commissioner.
Charles
had
her
hand
up.
E
J
Oh
well,
I
I
mean
I
think
so
I
don't
want
to
call
out
anybody.
J
You
know
when
I
went
to
go
vote,
I'm
going
to
just
tell
the
story
because
it
happened
when
I
went
to
go
vote
in
my
precinct.
I
walked
in,
and
the
guy
working
there
didn't
know
who
I
was,
which
is
fine.
I
don't
care
and
he
said:
okay,
you're
gonna
have
to
fill
out
this
application
and,
and
you
need
a
photo
id
to
vote.
J
J
You
know
not
not
the
correct
instruction
to
give
somebody
and-
and
it
frustrates
me
that
that
is
what
the
message
that
somebody
would
give
right.
You
do
not
at
this
point
in
time
in
the
state
of
michigan.
You
do
not
have
to
have
a
photo
id
to
vote.
If
you
do
not
have
one
in
your
possession,
you
can
sign
the
affidavit
on
the
back
of
the
application
to
vote
so
because
a
state
id
there
is
a
fee
to
it.
J
You
know
one
of
the
things
one
of
the
first
things
I
did
when
I
got
here
was
my
program
to
reduce
or
waive
the
fee
for
a
vital
record,
mainly
birth
certificates,
for
somebody
facing
extreme
hardship
and
getting
services
from
an
accredited
social
service
agency,
because
it
costs
money
to
get
a
birth
certificate
right,
but
you
need
the
birth
certificate
to
get
the
state
id.
So
you
know
it's
it's.
J
It
makes
it
not
free
in
my
opinion
than
to
be
able
to
vote,
but
I
wanted
to
do
my
part-
and
I
appreciate
the
board's
support
in
that
I
again
michigan
is
different
than
46
other
states
and
how
our
elections
are
run.
We
are
decentralized,
46
states,
it's
all
run
at
the
county
level.
J
J
We,
the
law,
states
that
the
county
clerk
trains
election
day,
workers
for
municipalities
that
have
a
population
of
10,
000
or
less
a
community,
that's
larger
than
that
can
ask
us
to
do
the
training
for
them
and
we'll
take
like
if
somebody
can't
make
their
training
they
can,
you
know,
do
ours,
but
otherwise
the
bigger
municipalities
train
their
own
workers.
J
J
You
know
some
of
the
northern
counties
or
whatever,
but
you
know
we,
we
see
a
variety
and-
and
we
can
tell
during
the
canvas,
often
like
okay,
we
if,
if
this
person
had
gone
to
our
training,
you
know
this
wouldn't
be
like
this
kind
of
a
thing
so,
but
our
elections
I'm
going
on
a
tangent,
I
agree
I
apologize.
Are
they
free
and
fair?
Yes,
and
I
encourage
everyone
I
know
commissioner
markham
has
come
to
the
canvas
before
the
canvas
is
open
to
the
public.
J
Anyone
from
the
public
can
come
watch
our
public
accuracy
test,
anyone
can
come
watch
we've
finally,
had
people
come
and
watch
and
they've
learned
so
much
and
walk
away
going.
Oh
my
gosh,
I
I
yeah.
It's
all
done
right
and
I
I
mean
it's
great
to
hear
that
and
for
them
to
have
that
reassurance
working
an
election.
You
know
there's
just
so
many
things.
J
There
are
so
many
ways
that
someone
who
has
any
doubts
about
our
democratic
process
can
observe
or
participate
and
learn,
and
you
know
in
addition
to
the
canvas
which
is
done
by
two
democrats
and
two
republicans
that
you
all
choose.
We
do
audits
after
that.
So
it's
and
if
you
look
at
the
paper,
if
you,
if
you
google,
I
don't
know
somebody
tried,
I
wouldn't
even
know
about
the
right
terms,
but
election
crime,
or
something
like
that
I
just
saw
there-
was
somebody
in
sterling
heights
who
was
charged
with
forging
you
know.
J
That's
what
we
have
in
michigan
is
so
many
checks
and
balances
that
that's
going
to
be
caught
right.
It's
going
to
get
caught,
whether
it's
in
the
canvas
or
before
the
canvas
or
some
other
time
things
get
caught,
whether
it's
at
the
local
clerk's
office
at
the
county
clerk's
office.
If
somebody
wants
to
try
and
commit
an
election
crime
or
commit
election
fraud,
they're
going
to
get
caught
go
ahead.
I.
B
Was
going
to
say
that
you
know
in
the
now
near
16
years,
I've
I've
been
in
this
role.
I've
never
seen
the
the
volume
turned
at
the
level
that
it
is
now,
but
despite
the
daily
emails
phone
calls
threats,
threats
to
bodily
harm
threats
to
going
to
jail.
You
know
I.
I
really
do
applaud
my
staff's
ability
to
be
undeterred
in
making
sure
that
we're
doing
what
we're
supposed
to
do
and
that
we're
carrying
out.
You
know
the
people's
work
to
to
make
democracy
work.
It's
hard.
B
I
mean
we
see
things
that
in
16
years
I've
never
saw
I've
been
called
things
in
16
years.
I've
never
been
called,
and
you
know,
and
as
has
the
clerk
but
we're
going
to
do
the
right
thing
and
and
that's
what
this
whole
process
is
built
on,
and
we
take
great
pride
in
that.
E
Thank
you
for
the
floor
and
just
let
it
be
known
that
we
really
appreciate
those
election
workers
coast
to
coast
c
to
c,
so
we
need
them.
Thank
you.
G
Was
looking
at
special
revenue
funds
concealed
pistol
licensing,
you
made
almost
double
the
revenue
than
you
were
budgeted
for.
What
is
that
normal?
Is
that
I
mean
like
what's
going
on
out
there.
G
Okay
yeah,
when
people
go
to
get
their
pistol
license,
is
there
like
a
box
of
like
gun
locks
or
something
for
people
that
fill
them
out.
J
No,
you
know
there
was
a
time
where
you
guys
did
that
you've
passed
out
locks
before
and
we
had
some
in
our
office,
but
I
do
believe
that
anyone
who's
purchasing
a
new
gun
that
a
lock
comes
with
it.
So
we
don't
have
that.
I
mean
something.
It
is
something
we've
talked
about,
but
again
like.
F
C
F
G
J
Okay,
so
yeah
I
mean
it's
something
that
we've
talked
about,
because,
yes,
we
we,
we
have
a
healthy
fund
there
and
and
yeah
it's
a
consideration
as
to
whether
but
again
like
knowing
that
if
a
lot
comes
with
one,
you
know,
I
don't
know
that.
It's
something
that
and
we
don't
know
how
many.
G
J
Well
so
know
that
so
there's
two
two
different
kind
of
I
guess
line
items
in
a
sense
that
go
into
the
revenue
it's
first
time
and
then
renewals
and
we
get
a
different
amount
and
we
have
to
split
that
with
the
state.
J
Renewals
are
now
online
and
it's
like
through
the
michigan
state
police
that
people
do
it,
but
we
get
a
part
of
that.
It
gets
a
little
wonky
when
somebody
puts
the
wrong
county
but
anyway
and
it's
like
getting
all
the
money
to
the
right
place.
J
But
I
lost
my
train
of
thought,
so
your
cpl
is
usually
good
for
five
years,
so
it
could
also
be
cyclical
like
if
there
was
something
that
happened
oftentimes
after
elections
even
year
elections
I
have
seen
like,
and
especially
after
in
the
new
year
like
a
lot
of
people,
get
take
the
class
for
christmas
or
they
get
a.
You
know
a
firearm
for
christmas
or
something
the
line
is
always
so
long
right.
Then
so
there's
certain
times
that,
like
we
have
spikes.
J
But
so
if
something
happened
then
that
year
we're
going
to
have
more.
You
know
five
years
later,
it's
going
to
be
an
increase
kind
of
a
thing
for
renewals
and
that
sort
of
thing
too
so.
K
Okay,
yeah
lisa.
This
is
jennifer
with
our
cpl
budget
late
in
2007,
we
saw
a
dramatic
increase
in
the
purchase
of
concealed
pistol
licenses,
so
those
people
that
purchased
them
every
four
to
five
years,
depending
on
their
their
date
of
birth
and
when
they
applied,
is
when
that
renews.
So
every
you
know
it
is
cyclical,
very
much
so
so
in
beginning
at
the
end
of
2007
is
where
we
really
saw
the
uptick.
C
Yeah,
so
what
I
heard
from
you
is,
you
know:
you've
still
got
issues
with
your
workplace
safety
that
have
not
been
addressed
for
a
number
of
years,
and
so
I'm
going
to
ask,
as
commissioner
moss
suggested,
that
this
be
dealt
with
right
away.
I
don't
I'll
talk
to
staff
about
you
know
getting
on
your
page
for
that,
because
I
think
we
all
agree.
We
don't
want
to
lose
important
records
just
because
we
can't
we
don't
have
any
sprinklers
yeah.
The
I
have
one
other
question:
do
you
have
anything
to
do
with
expungements?
J
Jenna
you
want
to
talk
about
it.
What's
the
department
that
they've
been
doing
it.
K
Yeah,
so
the
state
has
a
group
that
actually
will
provide
legal
services
for
people
to
there.
They
used
to
be
called
expungements
now.
They're
called
set
aside
convictions,
okay
and
oakland
county
has
a
group
that
assists
people
with
filing
for
the
set
aside
process.
K
The
prosecutor,
I
believe,
also
had
a
clinic
back
a
few
months
ago,
and
I
only
know
that,
because
some
information
was
incorrect
and
it
came
that
that
it
came
from
the
prosecutor,
I
had
had
some
saturday
clinic
or
something
so,
but
honestly
out
of
every
legal
process,
there
is
in
a
courthouse
in
the
circuit
courthouse.
K
I
don't
want
to
say
quick,
but
easiest
in
terms
of
legalities
and
fines
or
fees
or
anything.
That's
that
accompanies
it.
So
we
do
have
instructions
on
our
website.
We
do
assist
customers.
There
is
the
michigan
legal
help
website,
also
that
it's
kind
of
like
a
turbo
tax
for
court
filings.
That
will
also
provide
that
type
of
assistance.
When
someone's
attempting
to
to
clear
their
record.
J
So
know
that
there
are,
you
know,
depending
upon
what
is
on
the
record
felony
it's
got
to
be
you
know.
Only
certain
kinds
of
felonies
can
be
set
aside,
there's
a
time,
a
waiting
time
period
for
that
right,
eight
years
and
then
three
years
for
misdemeanor,
but
again
so
starting
next
april,
it's
going
to
be
automatic
for
for
people
that.
C
K
Development,
well,
michigan
works
yeah,
it's
not
just
it's
not
just.
I
think
oakland
county
has
their
own
michigan
works
yeah,
but
some
other
areas
in
the
state
cover
multiple
jurisdictions,
but
we're
so
large
and
like
wayne
county
has
their
own
oakland
county
has
their
own.
It's
michigan
works
and
I
believe
steve
right
was
it
steve
writeout.
K
He
used
to
work
for
corporation
council.
Yeah
runs
that
yes,
okay,.
C
J
B
H
H
J
J
C
Doing
all
the
work
to
get
prepared,
thanks
for
all,
you
do
to
serve
the
public
because
you're
you're
as
you're,
probably
the
most
forward-facing
department
of
the
entire
county
beside
I
mean
we're
pretty
forward-facing
too,
but
you
encounter
so
many
people
every
day,
yeah.
You
know
so.